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Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 17:41:35 CDT
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From: <U17527@uicvm.uic.edu>
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Message-ID: <94145.174135U17527@uicvm.uic.edu>
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
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Subject: common everyday coleus
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didn't see my previous post, so if this is redundant please forgive me.
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The following entry was included in a book called "recreationsal drugs."
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"When psilocybin mushrooms are in short supply, and users are willing
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to settle for a milder but similar mind excursion, they sometimes turn
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to the coleus plant, particularly the species coleus blumei and coleus
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pumila. the mazatec indians of southern mexico have been tripping on this
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psychedelic mint for years.
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It takes about fifty to severnty large, colorful leaves of the coleus
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plant to get someone going. They can be chewed thoroughly and swallowed.
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If one prefers, the leaves can also be smoked and steeped in lukewarm water for
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for about an hour, after which the liquid is strained and drunk.
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No one is exactly sure what gives coleus its psychoactive kick, but we do
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know that only fresh leaves will work. Dried leaves have virtually no
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effect.
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While the drug has no really unpleasant or dangerous side effects, some
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people do feel a degree of nausea about a half hour after getting it down
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But the nausea goes away quickly and is soon replaced by a trippy,
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psilocybin-like state, colorful visual hallucinations and patterns, and
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telepathic and clairvoyant insights. The entire trip lasts for about
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two hours.
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Coleus plants can be purchased legally at most garden centers. Thos with
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green thumbs, who aren't too stoned to exercise them, might purchase
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some seeds to grow their own."
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has anyone done any experimentation with the coleus plant?
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glen
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From: masc0270@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Christopher Hooten)
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
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Subject: Re: coleus -- hallucinogenic?
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Date: 25 May 1994 22:46:17 GMT
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Message-ID: <2s0kfp$rve@pandora.sdsu.edu>
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[quoted text deleted -cak]
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I bet you read this in _Recreational Drugs_, didn't you? A FOAF
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tried this by steeping the leaves in warm water, and drinking it.
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There was little or no effect. However, the same book above lists
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that the chemistry may be very similar between coleus and salvia
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divinorum (diviner's sage). I have heard you should crush up the
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leaves and put them in the side of your mouth for about 15 minutes
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to let it soak through your lips and gums (with the salvia divinorum),
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so possibly this method might work for the coleus as well. If
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anyone tries this, please post the results.
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-- Chris
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From: cddugan@ouray.Denver.Colorado.EDU (chris dugan)
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Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
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Subject: Re: Salvia Divinoram
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Date: 26 May 1994 06:40:03 GMT
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Message-ID: <2s1g83$ojt@carbon.denver.colorado.edu>
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Alan L. Bostick (abostick@netcom.com) wrote:
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: Jody_Radzik@morph.com (Jody Radzik) writes:
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: >I just read that this common houseplant has hallucinogenic properties?
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: >Does anyone know about this and if so could you share it with us? Thanx.
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: From GROWING THE HALLUCINOGENS - HOW TO CULTIVATE AND HARVEST LEGAL
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: PSYCHOACTIVE PLANTS by Hudson Grubber (20th Century Alchemist, dist. by
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: And/Or Press; Copyright 1973 20th Century Alchemist):
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: "PIPILTZINTZINTLI
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: _Salvina_divinorum_ Epling & Jativa;
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: Mint family (Labiatae)
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: "A woody perennial herb 4 to 6 feet tall with square, hollow stems. The
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: leaves are dark green, 6 to 8 inches long, with toothed edges. The flowers
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: are blue of white on spikes. Only found cultivated by sorcerors in an
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: isolated area in southern Mexico.
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: "CULTIVATION AND PROPAGATION: It is propagated in much the same manner as
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: coleus. It needs a loose, rich soil. It is best grown as a tub plant
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: and brought indoors when the weather begins to cool. It may be grown
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: outdoors in frost-free areas. This salvia is generally grown from cuttings,
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: but I know of one instance in which it was grown from seed. The seed should
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: be germinated in the same way as coleus. Cuttings should be taken in
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: spring, after the plant has had a lot of sun. Cut 1/2-inch below a node and
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: root in no more than an inch of water. A pinch of rootone may be added to
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: the water and shaken well to dissolve it. This will help prevent stem
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: rot and will stimulate rooting. When the roots are 1/4-inch long, the
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: cutting should be potted. Longer roots may be damaged. Plant in a 2-inch
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: pot with good potting soil. Grows rapidly after the roots are established.
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: I have found that this plant is susceptible to stem rot, if over-watered.
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: It is often attacked by aphids, white flies, spider mites and mealy-bugs.
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: "HARVESTING: Harvesting the leaves for use as a hallucinogen should not
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: be attempted until one has at least four one-year-old plants. An equal
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: number of leaves should be harvested from each plant so that the shock to
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: one plant will not be great. Dosage may vary; begin with 10-20 fresh
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: leaves. Fresh leaves are used, as the active principle is believed to
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: be unstable. Considering the rarity of the plant, the leaves should be
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: chewed, because when the juices are expressed much of the active
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: principle is wasted."
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: It does not sound from this as if this is a "common household plant."
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: This is the complete entry on the plant from this source. Nothing about
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: effects or chemistry, unfortunately.
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: Alan Bostick
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: abostick@netcom.com
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Here is the entry under "Pipilzintzintli" in "Legal Highs: A
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concise encyclopedia of legal herbs and chemicals with psychoactive
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properties" by 20th Century Alchemist, High Times/Level Press, 1973.
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MATERIAL: Leaves of plant found in southern Mexico. Also used for same
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effect are leaves of Coleus blumei and Coleus pumila, common house plants.
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USAGE: About 70 large fresh leaves are thoroughly chewed and swallowed
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or crushed and soaked in 1 pt. water for 1 hr., strained and drunk. If
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osterizer is available leaves may be liquefied in water.
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ACTIVE CONSTITUENTS: Uncertain, believed to be an unstable crystalline
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polyhydric alcohol.
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EFFECTS: Similar to psilocybin with colorful vsiual patterns, but milder
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and lasting only 2 hours.
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CONTRAINDICATIONS: Some people experience nausea during first half hour;
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otherwise no unpleasant or harmful side effects known.
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From: Keith <keith@marlin.ssnet.com>
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
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Subject: Re: coleus -- hallucinogenic?
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Date: 26 May 1994 00:28:58 GMT
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Message-ID: <2s0qga$keh@marlin.ssnet.com>
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[quoted text deleted -cak]
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At the risk of sounding very foolish, I will admit to having tried Coleus
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tea about twenty years ago. The line at the time was that there were
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uncharacterized polyols in the leaves responsible for the high. It
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*could* have been entirely placebo, but I swear I experienced something
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very similar to a mild psilocin dose. Angular repeating geometric
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patterns on walls (if I looked for them) and the like. The dose you
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mention is about what I tried and I only tried it once.
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For what it is worth...
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--keith
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