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Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 7 Num. 41
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("Quid coniuratio est?")
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BEHIND THE "GULF WAR SYNDROME" AND OKC RESCUE TEAM ILLNESSES
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Interview with Sherman H. Skolnick, March 8, 1996
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CONSPIRACY NATION:
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Before, we had been talking about the Gulf War. And I know that
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there *is* some kind of cover-up going on with the Gulf War
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Syndrome. But you had explained what it was.
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
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The military instruction manual for the tanks that were used
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there provides for a lead shield over the shells. But inside the
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tank it's so crowded that the ones inside the tank usually do not
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use it.
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They didn't quite explain to them [the tank crews] that the lead
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shield was necessary because the shells were "uranium depletion".
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And what that means is, it is something that was developed to go
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right through the enemy's armor plate on *their* tanks.
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But there is a danger from radioactivity, so the instruction
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manual provides for a lead shield. However, most of the tank
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people do not... Well, it's not workable. It's too crowded inside
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the tank.
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So the result is that that's *part* of the explanation of the
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Gulf War Syndrome, of these strange illnesses that are not, so
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far, exactly diagnosed and they detect that some of our troops
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suffer from.
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CONSPIRACY NATION:
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And you know this from talking with people?
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
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From talking with people that know specifically about the
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military instruction manual and so on. Yeah.
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In other words, the lead shield is not workable. It would be
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workable in an x-ray laboratory where the technicians stand
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behind the lead shield while they x-ray you. But the lead shield
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is virtually unworkable in a tank, because to keep the munitions
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behind that, and then to get the munition out, and put it into
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the barrel, is not quite workable.
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But it indicates that those who ordered that to be used *knew*
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that there was a radioactivity problem.
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There are other things too. There's believed to be a secret
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weapon of some kind or another that Saddam Hussein fired into the
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air, which may or may not have been detected by our side.
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But in the beginning there was just a few thousand ex-soldiers
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sick. But now they estimate (according to published accounts)
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upwards of 50 thousand of former soldiers, reservists and so on,
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are sick. That's upwards of 10 percent of the troops that were
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there! That means it's quite a problem, and the government has
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been ducking it.
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And they call some of the soldiers that are sick and can't work,
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or are barely able to drive themselves to work, they're calling
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'em "malingerers". (Which is really insulting.)
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And they find the same thing, now, with the rescue team (both men
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and women) that came from Maryland and a few other places and
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were flown into Oklahoma -- with sniffing dogs and so on -- to
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see who they could rescue. (And of course they *did* rescue some
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people, under the rubble.) But the point is, a growing percentage
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of *those* people (back at their regular jobs, or back in their
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regular life) are suffering from extreme health problems. And
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they're not diagnosed; doctors can't figure out what it is. And
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in some instances, the government or other doctors are telling
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the people, "Get out of bed. Go to work. You're a 'malingerer.'"
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Which is insulting. They haven't figured out what these people
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are suffering from, *or* *they* *don't* *wish* it to be brought
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out.
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CONSPIRACY NATION:
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Going back to the Gulf War Syndrome, let me re-state the way I
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understand what you're saying: that in their tank they had
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artillery shells...
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
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That were "uranium depletion", is what they called it. And it was
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radioactive, and the military instruction manual for the tank and
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the weapons said that artillery shells are to be kept behind, in
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lead shields.
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CONSPIRACY NATION:
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And these shells... They used uranium because they would be
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better able to penetrate the armor?
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
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Yes. It's called "uranium depletion". *All* the technical
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details, I wouldn't say that I know. A little of that has been
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published. What has *not* been published, so far as I know, is
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that there is an instruction manual for this thing. And the
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troops (or whatever you call the personnel that are in the tank)
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were told that they should keep the shells behind the lead
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shield. But in the close quarters...
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CONSPIRACY NATION:
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Yeah. But it's not workable.
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
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Yeah. And *in* *combat*, you don't think about... First of all,
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nobody emphasized the radioactivity or why the lead shield is
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there. And hey: when you're in combat, you're not gonna stop and
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follow the instruction manual that says, "Hey! Keep the shells
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behind the lead shield, and have that lead shield there while
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you're loading."
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CONSPIRACY NATION:
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So specifically, this kind of shell is designed to be more
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effective at penetrating armor?
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
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Yeah. Very effective. I think they have not developed a defense
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to it: that is, the type of armor that could not be penetrated by
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this type of shell.
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CONSPIRACY NATION:
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So basically, some bureaucrat way, miles away from the actual
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battle, dreamed all this up, and they just put out, say, an
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instruction manual saying, "And by the way: stay behind the lead
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shield." But when these guys were in combat...
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
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It wasn't workable.
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CONSPIRACY NATION:
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...Yeah. Not workable.
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
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I save a lot of the published stories, and I have not *seen*
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that. But I have talked to people that are greatly familiar with
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the situation that mention about the lead shields.
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CONSPIRACY NATION:
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As a result of your previous story, called "The Oklahoma Bombing
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and the Story of a Magazine", you were deluged with phone calls:
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people that came forward and volunteered information.
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
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Yeah well, in other words, the militia networks circulated my
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story from place to place, by fax and other means, and said that
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they were very pleased that somebody put the details together.
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Because they had anecdotal information which supports their
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suspicions that Lawrence W. Myers is some kind of a government
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operative, a counter-intelligence agent.
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CONSPIRACY NATION:
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But some of the people that got in touch with you were people
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that were victims of this radiation poisoning, that were in
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rescue teams.
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
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Yeah, right. I talked to them and it is a very suppressed story
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now. These government and other doctors, about the only thing
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they're doing is insulting them and saying, "You're a
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'malingerer.' Get back to work."
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CONSPIRACY NATION:
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Were these stories kind of heartbreaking for you to listen to?
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
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Yes.
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My purpose is, trying to play this up as big as possible. And it
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is now 11 months after the [Oklahoma City] bombings, and I think
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that if another year goes by and the story stays suppressed that
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the people would be too far gone: beyond "the point of no
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return". I think that some of them still can be saved through
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treatment. But the government has got to own up to it. They can't
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just wait decades from now, like they did with -- what was it?
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St. George, Utah? Where a third of the town came down sick from
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the fall-out. And of course, they played it up, about 30-some
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years later, I think it was on the 60 Minutes program {1}. But by
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then a third of the population was either dead, or they had been
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operated on, chemotherapy, the whole thing. My point is that
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something has got to be done about it *now*.
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[...to be continued...]
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---------------------------<< Notes >>---------------------------
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{1} 60 Minutes, by the way, is about to have Mike "The $150,000
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Kid" Wallace do some subtle disinformation on Mexican money
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laundering allegedly involving Citibank. Watch for Mikey to lay
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off the huge Mexican money-laundering scandal at the feet of
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bribery. "Nope, nope," will say Mikey, "Nope, no drug money was
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laundered. Just bribes. Yep."
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Hey Mikey: How much are they payin' you for this one?
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