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| From : KeelyNet BBS | DataLine : (214) 324-3501 |
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| Sysop : Jerry W. Decker | Voice : (214) 324-8741 |
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| Co-Sysop : Ronald Barker | Voice : (214) 242-9346 |
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| File Name : FF1.ASC | Online Date : 05/22/94 |
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| Contributed by : Bert Pool | Dir Category : ENERGY |
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| KeelyNet * PO BOX 1031 * Mesquite, Texas * USA * 75149 |
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The following is a compilation of messages regarding electrical energy, the
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TOD circuit, Bert Pool's FIREFLY circuit and other related material. You
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will also need the image FF1.GIF to see the changes in the circuit.
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Message 4577 DATE/TIME: 01/26/94 20:44
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From : NORMAN WOOTAN
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To : ALL
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Subject: Neutral Spike
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Folder : A, "Public Mail"
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Today I found an elegant and simple way to prove my theory on the source of
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the NEUTRAL SPIKE. I was working in a nursing home installing some simple
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buzzers on the door alarm system and was testing and tuning the sound level
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of the audio output (the loudness of the buzz) when I got a shock that
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nearly took me right off the ladder. Now this buzzer is powered by 24V AC
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and you can't get a shock out of 24VAC but when you consider the SPIKE
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PHENONENON it is awsome. This buzzer is made by EDWARDS, called a LUNGEN
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BUZZER, CAT. NO 15-2G5 24 V AC 60 HZ. I suggest all that are interested in
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duplicating the following experiment, go to your local electrical supply
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house and get this particular model for it has features that are ideal for
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the purpose of producing NEUTRAL SPIKES. This buzzer is constructed so as
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both sides of the 24V AC is floating (insulated) with the solid steel (not
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laminated) core is grounded to the frame or metal case. The solid steel
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core is of very mild steel which agravates the production of spike
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potential. Remember I said you need to think backwards? Yes we want a
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magnetic core which has the most horible spike producing characteristics.
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If there is an engineer out there who could suggest an ideal material for
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this application, by all means speak up for I would love input and
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participation in this project. I brought home a new buzzer and hooked it
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up to a standard 24V AC step-down transformer and attached my multimeter
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(Fluke 87)meter with one lead (black ground) to the case of the buzzer and
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used the red lead to test the potential on the two buzzer terminals. With
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24V AC running the buzzer I measured over 2000V coming out of the iron core
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of the buzzer. What is interesting is the fact that with the adjusting
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screw I could vary the voltage output by changing the frequency of the
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buzzer contacts. Now to build a similar device that will enable me to
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explore a possible resonant region that may exist related to this
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phenomenon. I am willing to bet that there will prove to be a definite
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relationship to inductance/impedance of the coil and stray capacitance that
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may be involved in the simple circuit. Therefore I will be looking for a
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point of resonance that will maximize the spike output. Before the TESLA
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COIL builders out there jump in and say it is a simple voltage multiplying
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based on impedance ratio, well I only have one coil (no secondary). Joel,
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put that in your pipe and smoke it a while and see if you can see a
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solution other than magnetic constricturing as you described earlier in one
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of you messages. If a saturating magnetic flux is driving electrons
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directly out of the iron atoms then visualize the potential here since this
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whole planet is practically iron. NORM
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Message 4583 DATE/TIME: 01/26/94 23:07
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From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
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To : NORMAN WOOTAN
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Subject: Negative Spike
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Page 1
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Folder : A, "Public Mail"
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Hi Norm,
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Count on me for confirmation of this. About the same time that I uploaded
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COILBAK, I also uploaded COILUNIT, which is a 12VDC relay, energized
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through its normally closed contacts, so that it would open/close
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continuously at very close to its aggregate resonance, just like the old
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vibrators that they used in car radios to produce AC for the vacuum tube
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radios. They never lasted too long as they would beat themselves to death,
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but they usually outlasted the warranty. Anyway, COILUNIT produces those
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same high negative spikes, and when connected to a rechargable battery,
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once the battery accepts the spikes, the terminal voltage stops falling,
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and the voltage stabilizes. This is how the Dutch inventor got so many
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miles on his electric motorcycle. Anyway, it is subject to mechanical time
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delays, so it is not an above-unity device, which leads to the "cranky"
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semiconductors that Woody spoke of, and which COILBAK depends upon. The
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spikes are exactly as you describe. Thanks again, my friend.
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Joel
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Message 4585 DATE/TIME: 01/27/94 07:55
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From : NORMAN WOOTAN
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To : ALL
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Subject: Negative Spike
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Folder : A, "Public Mail"
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To all out there who may want to experiment with the generation of neutral
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spike energy,please be advised that to do so you must "float the ground" or
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neutral to get a handle on the spikes coming out of the iron. In
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electrical circles this is a "NO NO" because electrical engineers consider
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spikes as a nussiance and bothersome output that they try to totally
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supressbecause of it's destructive properties. Since the voltages go off
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the scaleand sometimes have current magnitudes that they elect not to deal
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with they simply install varistors and such devices to effectively tahe
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this un-wanted energy to earth ground. Our objective is to conserve all
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this energy and put it to some use. My asvice is just be careful when
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dealing with any electricaldevice on which you are working that has a
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floating neutral or earth ground. Norm
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Message 4588 DATE/TIME: 01/27/94 09:30
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From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
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To : NORMAN WOOTAN
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Subject: (R) Neutral Spike
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Folder : A, "Public Mail"
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Norm, your shocking experience with the 24 volt door buzzer brings a whole
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new perspective to the expression "gonna ring your chimes"! One
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suggestion: to increase the output of the old ignition coils, a condenser
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was used in conjunction with the coil - one of the few cases where a
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capacitor was used NOT to reduce an inductive spike. Try using a small
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capacitor in different configurations with your coil. You might find that
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working together, the electrons pulled from the dielectric and the
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electrons pulled from the iron might "aid" one another. I've never even
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seen it proved that the "electrons" pulled from the dielectric in a
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capacitor are identical to the ones released in your iron core - they might
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in reality appear similar but in truth be different particles or forces.
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The capacitor electrons might, for example, be "hot" current, and the spike
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current "cold". I don't have a test which would differentiate the two, if
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they do in fact exist. Just a musing. >> Bert
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Message 4591 DATE/TIME: 01/27/94 10:24
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From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
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Page 2
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To : NORMAN WOOTAN
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Subject: (R) Neutral Spike
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Folder : A, "Public Mail"
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Hi Norm! We too use the Edwards buzzers and I have shocked the pee out of
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meself with one when it was powered....however, ours uses 110VAC but is an
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Edwards....they too are tunable with a vibrating plate that sits over a
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solenoid winding....the plate is "balanced" over this flat solenoid post
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which is surrounded by the coil driven by the VAC... As the plate is
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jerked back and forth in the varying flux, it slaps against the post,
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producing the sound....not only frequency but also volume can be adjusted
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by "tensioning" the plate against the post....kind of like a fixed Chladni
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waveplate... I must say, I never measured the voltage on ours, just
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assumed it to be a trickle of the 110VAC...but now that you mention it, I
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will check it out tonite...
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I kind of think it is a series of spikes, at the same frequency as the
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plate is vibrating (you know, come to think of it, on ours you don't really
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change the frequency all that much, it is more like a 1/2 tone, i.e. flat
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or sharp) but you CAN make it louder or softer... So, the frequency does
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not change so much as the INTENSITY of the slap...now if the plate is
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magnetically fluxed up (no pun intended), and it slaps the solenoid,
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possibly the bucking magnetic fields create this inductive spike....dammit,
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now I HAVE to look into this... Kind of sounds like the very oldstyle
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multivibrators that Joel mentioned...they needed them to get the 300VDC to
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run the vacuum tubes in car radios (well, some ran at 150) and you needed
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plate voltages along with heater voltages....I think vacuum tubes are
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sssoooo interesting and we missed out on much when transistors took over.
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So, can we add another winding to tap off this? Or use a capacitor and
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some diodes to build up a charge?? Or is there any possible gain
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associated with this. Right now, I can't see how that would be, despite
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the interesting properties of iron, so a test is definitely in order,
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preferably by several people for several viewpoints....gee thanks
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Norm!...<g>...>>> Jerry
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Message 4594 DATE/TIME: 01/27/94 10:38
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From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
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To : BERT POOL
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Subject: (R) Neutral Spike
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Folder : A, "Public Mail"
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Hi Bert and Norm! You know, Bob Aldrichs comments about "liquid
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electricity" might be a way to store up energy beyond what is currently
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accepted...I think he said in one of the messages what was being used to
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hold this energy that could be "sloshed around" like fluid when the
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device/metal/material was almost full...very bizarre but I think there is
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more to it than we currently understand....and it will be with some
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combination of elements that were all available in the late 1900's, so it
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won't be something spooky like the more hard to find metals...>>> Geez,
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perhaps a means of holding this high voltage multi-vibrator generator
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spikes might be to try this liquid electricity thing...will look up the
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messages to see what kind of metal was used...>>> Jerry
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Message 4602 DATE/TIME: 01/27/94 19:37
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From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
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To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
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Subject: Neutral Spike
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Folder : A, "Public Mail"
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Jerry: Have you ever looked at a Model T Ford ignition vibrator
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transformer???? It is built very much like the buzzer except the contacts
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Page 3
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are at the center of the iron core of the coil with everything contained in
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a little oak wood box. I have one in the shop and will experiment with it
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also. This thing puts out a real big spark on a continous baseswith the
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rotor button sending the spark to the right cylinder. Timing was a little
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rough but hell the model T engine seldom ever ran over a thousond RPM. I
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will play games with this buzzerand try a few caps of different values to
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determine if the output will improve. Yes I have already planned a high
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voltage diode pick-off of the high voltage to a capacitor storage bank to
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be used in a different stage. I'll let the buzzer device be the driver to
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deliver the HV pulses to the cap storage. I'm curious as to how much
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charge we can accumulate and how fast a large cap will fill up. In a paper
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I put in the Vangard packet awile back, GE had laid out a method of
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determining the current output of high voltage devices by timing the charge
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rate into a known capacitance. I guess this is the only way since we don't
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have any kind of high voltage current meters. Bert and I discussed how to
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hook this beast up to my scope (very carefully) and concluded that a
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voltage divider was the best approach. I hope you have success with your
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110V buzzer at work. I have to admit that I have not worked with line
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voltage buzzers before. Do you really think that Joel's ORGONE ACCUMULATOR
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has any chance of levitation or getting high if he uses poppy seeds. He
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should try a little "WEED" to see if it would lift off. Norm
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Message 4609 DATE/TIME: 01/28/94 08:24
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From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
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To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
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Subject: Neutral Spike
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Folder : A, "Public Mail"
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Jerry: I failed to tell you yesterday that Bert and I had a long
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conversation about the buzzer device and had agreed that the adjustment
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screw allowed you to adjust the dwell of the device the same as adjusting
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the breajer point jap in a conventional igniyion system. The
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armature,spring and other mass associated with the moving contact tend to
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remain at the (JOEL) mass aggregate resonance, so frequency is shifted only
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very slightly when the point gap is adjusted. I am going to use my strobe
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light to study the dynamics of the armature and the gap dwell relationship.
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Heck, I already have all the parts assembled to build a rather large
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"buzzer". The coil will be 4" in diameter,5" long with a solid soft steel
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core. If scale means anything in this case I should be able to get about
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10KV out to my cap storage. We'll see. Norm
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Message 4624 DATE/TIME: 01/28/94 23:43
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From : BILL BEATY
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To : ALL
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Subject: 9-volt electrostatics
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Folder : A, "Public Mail"
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I acquired a big box of "dead" alkaline 9v batteries. Wanting to prove to
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myself (and to possibly use it for demonstrations) the idea that "static
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electricity" is simply voltage, I connected the batteries in series by
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plugging them into each other skewed, built up quite a large (and
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dangerous) battery bank, then used the resulting two lead wires at
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1500Volts to deflect a little scrap of charged scotch tape. It works! I
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was also able to charge up coins sitting on insulators, then detect the
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charge with an FET electroscope. Then I discovered carbon arcs with old
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battery carbon rods, and wasted hours burning patterns into a two-by-four.
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.
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For anyone who doesn't know: 9volt batteries can be clipped in series by
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sticking them into each other's clips offset and building up long
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Page 4
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"bandoliers" of them. I got mine from a friend who works in a large
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theatrical company, they go through hundreds for their portable FM
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microphones, and discard them when the voltage falls to 8.5v or 8.0. These
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alkalines still pack about an ampere when shorted. If you can collect
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enough, you end up with a portable power source of thousands of volts
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at hundreds of mA, not connected to house current. I may eventually become
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famous for being killed by a 9v battery. (actually, several!)
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.
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(I think the NEUMAN machine automobile demo used this trick, a photo of the
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car's trunk looked like it carried several cubic feet of series 9V cells.
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Donated by the manufacturer fortunately)
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Message 4633 DATE/TIME: 01/29/94 16:24
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From : TERRY BASTIAN -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
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To : BOB ALDRICH
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Subject: (R) efficient batteries
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Folder : A, "Public Mail"
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Thanks for the information.......The man that I have found a thread of info
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on is named Richard Diggs...and did something similar to what you
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described....I did a computer search at the Patent Office on him and under
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the name he had many irrigation devices and such ..... What I have is a
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Patent abstract on the idea but alas I didnt find the patent...If your
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friend recognises this name perhaps he might remember more ?????? Who knows
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but thanks for the info anyhow....... Terry
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Message 4648 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 10:44
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From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
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To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
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Subject: (R) TOD
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Folder : A, "Public Mail"
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Hi Folks! Just got a call regarding the TOD circuit. It was taken over to
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an electronic engineer who has vast experience with power measurements.
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Hhe hooked the TOD circuit up to a scope and measured it for about 30
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minutes. During and after this, he is quite bewildered as the circuit
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definitely is outputting more power than it is taking to run it. It is not
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feeding itself, but seems to be generating overunity just as specified in
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the TOD.ASC file written by Lee. The MOSFET parameters were looked up to
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see if there were anything unusual in them and the engineer said they had
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an internal diode (for clamping, I think he said), the point being that
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this seems to snap or prevent any kind of backflow of energy, thus lending
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a cumulative buildup of energy from the spikes..... So, get on it...I know
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it only came on last night, but get it OUT and let's get crackin'.....
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>>> Jerry ...............download TOD.ZIP, or TOD.ASC & TOD.GIF.....
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Message 4657 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 17:05
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From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
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To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
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Subject: Tod Circuit
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Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
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Jerry, I just completed the TOD circuit and have it running but I don't
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have a role of #12 solid copper wire 500' long. I'll get a new roll of
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wire tomorrow. Also I need a range of capacitors to vary the timing of the
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555. In the schematics he specified from .1-.68 uf, so I'll get these
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tomorrow. I pig-tailed out all leads so as to be able to change caps etc.
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The Bourne precision pots worked great for I can nail exact resistance
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values or change all 6 at will. The circuit is running at present a little
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Page 5
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below unity but I only have a Tesla coil secondary at present to use as a
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collector. The wire length is insufficient and I need to change the pulse
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width and frequency, so a change of capacitance is in order. Just wanted
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to let you guys know that I'm not sitting on my thumbs. HA! HA! Norm
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Message 4660 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 17:44
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From : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED --
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To : TERRY BASTIAN
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Subject: (R) efficient batteries
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Folder : A, "Public Mail"
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Hi Terry,
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Richard Diggs is the man. My friend recalls that much. However what
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town in Mississippi he doesn't recall. I suggest looking up the address off
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some of his other patents and dig him up and talk to him!
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My friend did speak to him about it but nothing ever came of it. He
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doesn't have the phone number and anyway that was years ago. ...Bob
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Message 4663 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 17:51
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From : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED --
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To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
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Subject: (R) 3.3 Mhz Battery Charger
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Folder : A, "Public Mail"
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Hi Jerry,
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I did call and talked to the stock department of J.C. Whitney, and they
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were mystified as to why the 3.3 mhz batt charger wasn't in the catalog,
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but he still had the stock number and I ordered a solar powered charger
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that said it put a 3 to 4 mhz signal on the battery, if I remember right.
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So it will be coming soon, we'll see what this is all about. But I really
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wanted one that I could use in my shop, you know, charge car batteries
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right now not over a period of two months! Is the one you are familiar with
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a wall powered model?
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As to Psychomaneum, I believe the principle works, because my own father
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in law saw my mother (deceased) in a reflection off a livingroom window
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while watching TV. As to whether it should cancel, well, she's dead, isn't
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she? (bad joke).
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As to liquid electricity, well, think about this, if matter is nothing
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but compacted energy, it stands to reason that there would be an easy way
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to release some of that energy. Free Energy. you just have to buy the
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matter. (coal, dirt, copper wire, whatever) Wouldn't it be a hoot if
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electricity is just that? rarefied matter? And that can be condensed. By
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the way, the electrode used for the center conductor of the "capacitor" was
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silver, like silver leaves, suspended in the chamber. This is all I could
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get my friend's failing memory to dredge up. By the way, do you know of
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anyone who's ever done the orgone cloud buster? .............Bob
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Message 4666 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 18:01
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From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
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To : NORMAN WOOTAN
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Subject: (R) Tod Circuit
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Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
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||
|
||
Hi Norm! Great! Will be nice to see some verification on this, especially
|
||
the "improved" versions that actually can power something or recharge
|
||
it....in the original the duty cycle from the 555 was something like
|
||
|
||
Page 6
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
5:95...the 5 being the charge time (for the collector) and the 95 being for
|
||
the dissipator....kind of like poking holes in a water hose that is under
|
||
pressure....the more holes, the faster that pressure can achieve unity with
|
||
the locale....I believe he does mention the relationship being something
|
||
like 10 times faster on the uptake...>>> Jerry
|
||
===========================================================================
|
||
Message 4682 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 00:06
|
||
From : GERALD O'DOCHARTY -- RECEIVED --
|
||
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
|
||
Subject: Neutral Spike
|
||
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
|
||
|
||
Hi Norm! your buzzer may in fact have two coils. If the core is a single
|
||
solid steel part that is configured as a loop or if it and associated
|
||
buzzer flapper and case connect to form a loop or continuous circuit then
|
||
you have a shorted turn effect. This could give you a turns ratio
|
||
multiplication with the shorted turn acting as a primary from the induced
|
||
voltage from the magnetic field collapse. It could be acting as an
|
||
autotransformer. Think about your variac transformer. Only one coil right?
|
||
Of course having a good conductive, solid core like your buzzer has is
|
||
going to maximize eddy current effects also. For you to get a shock out of
|
||
the isolated case of the buzzer under this scenario, the 24v winding would
|
||
have to be acting as the secondary and then discharging into the case at
|
||
some breakdown voltage. I'm just offering this as a suggested possible
|
||
explanation, so don't think I'm trying to debunk your idea. Thats the last
|
||
thing I would want to do because so often times it happens that someone
|
||
will have a novel idea that some supposed 'expert' will dismiss after only
|
||
a superficial examination of the phenomena and without a complete
|
||
understanding of the situation. Where are you tapping the buzzer to get
|
||
your voltage readings, and referenced to what? Case to ground? Have you
|
||
determined the frequency of the high voltage? What does the waveform look
|
||
like, sinusoidal or impulsed?
|
||
===========================================================================
|
||
Message 4689 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 09:54
|
||
From : BERT POOL
|
||
To : ALL
|
||
Subject: Painful lessons
|
||
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
|
||
|
||
For anyone out there building the TOD test device, a word of caution: the
|
||
power MOSFET's Q2 and Q3 can go ballistic if you pull one of the MOSFET's
|
||
back stream. They will instantly self-destruct due to current saturation.
|
||
I was going to "swap" Q1 and Q2. I pulled Q1 and reached over to pull Q2.
|
||
In the 2 seconds it took me to set down Q1 and grab Q2, Q2 had reached an
|
||
estimated temperature of +400 degrees F. and blistered a couple of fingers.
|
||
It then proceeded to vaporize and stink up Norm's place. Absolutely,
|
||
positively, remove ALL power before working on these little guys or you
|
||
won't be able to pick your nose for a week! >> bert
|
||
===========================================================================
|
||
Message 4692 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 13:23
|
||
From : JOHN DRAPER -- RECEIVED --
|
||
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
|
||
Subject: (R) Neutral Spike
|
||
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
|
||
|
||
Norm, from your descriptions, haven't you noticed the similarities to the
|
||
Hendershot device? I went back to a schecmatic and write up of the
|
||
Hendershot device, and it shows a door bell buzzer in the circuit. I am
|
||
begining to beleive that the basket weave coils and the special capacitors
|
||
were used for resonance. ...... John D
|
||
Page 7
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
===========================================================================
|
||
Message 4701 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 18:49
|
||
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
|
||
To : JOHN DRAPER
|
||
Subject: Neutral Spike
|
||
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
|
||
|
||
John: Yes the Hendershot device is involved in this process. I have a
|
||
complete report on the Hendershot and you are correct about the buzzer
|
||
theory. I suspect that Joe Neumans big coil works very similar to what we
|
||
are theorizing. Thanks for the feed-back, we are working on the TOD Circuit
|
||
at the moment and will get back to the Neutral Spike device as soon as we
|
||
can get some data to verify Lee's over-unity claims for his circuit. If it
|
||
can't be replicated by other researchers then it is considered invalid.
|
||
Thanks, Norm
|
||
===========================================================================
|
||
Message 4704 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 21:10
|
||
From : GERALD O'DOCHARTY -- RECEIVED --
|
||
To : LEE TRIPPETT
|
||
Subject: Switching Circuit
|
||
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
|
||
|
||
Hi Lee! I read your report and tried to do some analysis of your circuit. I
|
||
have some observations and some questions. First the observations: You
|
||
mentioned that the current flow reverses in loop Q3 when the device is
|
||
operated with the 'wire' collector. This seems to indicate that the node at
|
||
Q2 source is going negative, and this is exactly what would be expected
|
||
when rapidly switching an inductive load, which is what your long wire
|
||
'collector' represents. When the current reverses through Q3 you will not
|
||
be able to shut it off untill the reverse voltage falls below the forward
|
||
voltage of the internal diode in Q3. I think its about 1.5-2 volts for this
|
||
device. The schematic indicates that V2 can be from 9-24volts. In order for
|
||
the fets to fully swith on the gate to source voltage must be 10 volts.
|
||
The threshold is 2 volts. So if V1 is 18 volts V2 must be below 16 volts
|
||
for the device to even begin to turn on. Your circuit topology is unusual
|
||
for nchannel mosfets in that you are switching an inductive load in the low
|
||
side of the switch so it is difficult to analyse as the VGS will change as
|
||
the source voltage changes, hence the on state resistance is unknown. When
|
||
fully switched on these fets have a resistance of about 0.6 ohms. Now for
|
||
the Questions: How are you measuring current in the circuits? Do the
|
||
symbols mA1, mA2, etc. indicate an in series ammeter of some kind? What
|
||
does the voltage waveform look like at the Q2 source / Q3 drain node look
|
||
like? Is it does it have a very high dvdt or is it relatively slow or non-
|
||
transient? What is the manufacturer of your 555 timer? The data sheet I
|
||
looked at is National Semi., and they spec output switching time at 100 ns.
|
||
You mentioned a 20 ns switching time. Thanks for taking the time to do
|
||
this design to verify the Bearden theory and I hope you don't mind my
|
||
questions. - Gerald O'
|
||
===========================================================================
|
||
Message 4734 DATE/TIME: 02/04/94 14:12
|
||
From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
|
||
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
|
||
Subject: TOD
|
||
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
|
||
|
||
Norm, the IRF240's CAN be used, but you really have to drop the value of
|
||
the resistor in the gate circuit, as well as drop the value of the drain
|
||
resistors. Since the 240's are really power monsters, you have to punch
|
||
them pretty hard to get them to respond fast. I've gotten them to the
|
||
point that the rise time is less than 1 uSEC, and the inverted wave form
|
||
|
||
Page 8
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
looks very good. I'm working with the IRF111 as Q1 and I've optimized
|
||
values for it as well. Call me and we'll set up a time for Saturday. >>
|
||
Bert
|
||
===========================================================================
|
||
Message 4757 DATE/TIME: 02/05/94 11:05
|
||
From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED --
|
||
To : JOHN DRAPER
|
||
Subject: (R) Neutral Spike
|
||
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
|
||
|
||
| JAD> I am begining to beleive that the basket weave coils and
|
||
| JAD> the special capacitors were used for resonance.
|
||
|
|
||
| The info I have says it was resonant at 14.7 KHz.
|
||
|
|
||
| (1960 * 7.5Hz) I thing I would try Schumann (Sp?) around 7.83Hz...
|
||
|
|
||
|
|
||
===========================================================================
|
||
Message 4764 DATE/TIME: 02/06/94 08:19
|
||
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
|
||
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
|
||
Subject: TOD Circuit
|
||
Folder : Z, "Comments to the Sysop"
|
||
|
||
Jerry: Bert and I have spent a lot of time on this Tod circuit, in fact we
|
||
worked on it at Bert's place from 1.00PM Sat. till 10:00 PM and came to a
|
||
conclusion as to what is going on in the circuit. Bert is printing out all
|
||
the graph plots that we did of many different circuit configurations,
|
||
Collectors,loads and voltages VS freq's etc. Very interesting, some
|
||
configurations give gain ratios up to 100:1, others give 50:1 and others
|
||
give 25:1 output. However, remember what JOEL said, "If you can't hook a
|
||
plow to it and plant beans then it ain't worth a sh--. Well the out put
|
||
pulses or of such a nature that they fake the MA or Micro-amp meter into
|
||
believing that real power exist when this thing cant even light a tennie-
|
||
tiny LED. The secret is in the wave form. When I flew for the military we
|
||
had a Cessna A-37 twin engine jet that we called a 6000 # dog whistle for
|
||
it converted good jet fuel into a high pitch noise. Well this circuit
|
||
converts a decent shaped current pulse into a funny shaped wave form that
|
||
can't do any work what-so-ever. We are going to write the whole thing up
|
||
for you with our graphs etc, to give Lee some feed back. Sorry, NO CIGAR
|
||
this time. I guess you should keep this to you self till bert and I get
|
||
the final report assembled. Thanks: Norm
|
||
===========================================================================
|
||
Message 4780 DATE/TIME: 02/07/94 13:42
|
||
From : BERT POOL
|
||
To : ALL
|
||
Subject: TOD experimental verification
|
||
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
|
||
|
||
Some notes on our experiments with the TOD device.
|
||
.
|
||
Both Norm Wootan and myself (Bert Pool) have each built a prototype TOD
|
||
device (see file TOD.ZIP). The device is very straight forward in
|
||
construction. The concept behind this device, basically, is to charge an
|
||
inductive "collector" with a very short pulse (2 to 5 uSEC) and immediately
|
||
capture the resulting discharge spike, which theoretically might contain
|
||
additional available freed electrons from the copper or electrons grabbed
|
||
from the virtual energy flux to then be used in a load.
|
||
.
|
||
|
||
Page 9
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
Together, we spent many hours collecting careful measurements with an
|
||
impressive array of precision meters and very good oscilloscopes. Norm and
|
||
I both have excellent backgrounds in using 'scopes, and we know how they
|
||
can lie - but we also know that they can reveal hidden truths.
|
||
.
|
||
We carefully plotted the measured input current versus output current for
|
||
pulse width signals ranging from 2 uSECs to 60 uSECs, at repetition rates
|
||
from a low of 15 pps (pulses per second) to slightly more than 8,000 pps.
|
||
We used a variety of "collector" coils, ranging from 400 ft of 12 gauge
|
||
wire to 3300 feet of 22 gauge wire.
|
||
.
|
||
At 60 uSECs, 60 hertz, we even "measured" an apparent input/output current
|
||
gain of over 120 using precision Fluke 4 digit current meters. We both had
|
||
doubts that any of our meters could accurately measure currents of such
|
||
short duration, and our oscilloscopes showed us that our concern was well
|
||
founded.
|
||
.
|
||
Although the input pulse in one test was 60 uSEC wide, the output signal
|
||
delivered to the load consisted of two very narrow pulses corresponding
|
||
precisely to the "rise" edge and "fall" edge of the 60 uSEC input signal.
|
||
These two pulses had substantially smaller peak-to-peak voltages than the
|
||
input, and they were only NANOSECONDS in width - very, very narrow pulses.
|
||
This meant that the power available to the load was infinitesimally small.
|
||
Whereas we could take any of the the 2 uSEC to 60 uSEC INPUT pulses and
|
||
cause a tiny 2.5 volt incandescent bulb to faintly glow (our source battery
|
||
voltage was 12.56 volts), the nanosecond pulsed output current from the
|
||
circuit output to the same bulb produced absolutely no output, even at very
|
||
high repetition rates. If our current meters were telling the truth, that
|
||
bulb should have been several times brighter on the output side of the
|
||
circuit, vs the input side. It was not.
|
||
.
|
||
The digital meters used in our tests are designed to measure CONTINUOUS DC
|
||
current, NOT micosecond or nanosecond pulsed direct current. The only
|
||
equipment available to the general experimenter which can accurately
|
||
measure such fast events is a good oscilloscope. Not one of our meters was
|
||
able to accurately read the current in either the input or output circuits
|
||
because the signals were so very short and the mark/space ratio so small.
|
||
.
|
||
Conclusions:
|
||
.
|
||
1) The TOD device fails to exhibit an output that is even near
|
||
UNITY operation, much less over-unity.
|
||
.
|
||
2) Existing current meters CANNOT accurately measure either input
|
||
or output current of these small pulses. DC current meters
|
||
are designed to measure continuous current, AC meters are
|
||
designed to measure sinusoidal waveforms - the TOD input and
|
||
output signals exhibit neither of these characteristics.
|
||
The inability of these meters to measure current pulses
|
||
reliably results in false current readings.
|
||
.
|
||
3) Careful oscillograph viewings of the input and output signals
|
||
do not support an over-unity claim .
|
||
.
|
||
Recommendations:
|
||
.
|
||
1) To prevent erroneous readings, researchers should be cautioned
|
||
against trying to measure pulsed signal currents with meters
|
||
designed for continuous current or for sinusoidal AC current.
|
||
.
|
||
|
||
Page 10
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
2) In the future, any device which claims over-unity operation
|
||
should be able to operate a real-world load. It is suggested
|
||
that this load be a precision carbon resistor, and that the
|
||
load resistor be placed in a water-bath calorimeter and power
|
||
calculated from temperature rise in the load. (see 3 below),
|
||
not from voltage/current readings.
|
||
.
|
||
A precision carbon resistor is a very stable and exact load
|
||
whose operating characteristics stay constant, even under
|
||
variable current conditions. The resistor can have its wires
|
||
insulated, and then be placed in an exact volume of water in a
|
||
Dewar flask (thermos bottle). Thermocouples can be used to
|
||
measure the degree of heating of the water that is caused by
|
||
current being dissipated as heat within the load. This is a
|
||
very reliable, universally accepted method of measuring power
|
||
being delivered to a load. The resistor and water do not care
|
||
whether the power is AC, DC, or pulsed - the measurements will
|
||
reliably tell you how much useable power is being delivered to
|
||
the load. Period.
|
||
.
|
||
Incandescent lamps present a pretty good adhoc test load as
|
||
well - the filament, because of its thermal mass, will tend to
|
||
average the effects of short duration pulses, and the light
|
||
output can be measured and calibrated using optical sensors
|
||
such as photocells or phototransistors.
|
||
.
|
||
3) We do not want to throw a "wet blanket" on the zpe energy
|
||
scene. But we have to encourage experimenters to try and
|
||
standardize to a measurement method that is accurate and
|
||
reasonably easy (and cheap) to make. A calorimetric method
|
||
fits both of these requirements. We build new energy devices
|
||
every day ourselves, and we have found out the hard way just
|
||
how tricky accurate power measurements can be when using
|
||
meters and 'scopes. ESPECIALLY when working with micro or nano
|
||
second pulses!
|
||
.
|
||
**************************************************************************
|
||
Norm and I will place on KeelyNet sometime in the next several days plans
|
||
for building a shade-tree calorimeter which any serious experimenter can
|
||
put together for less than $50 worth of kitchen utensils and Radio Shack
|
||
goodies, many of which you probably already have lying around or can steal
|
||
from your kid's lunch box. If you measure over-unity with this baby, then
|
||
you've something to get excited about! In the future, this will be our
|
||
standard of power measurement for any electrical device claiming over-
|
||
unity. Not volts. Not amps. Not millivolt-microamps. Just plain old
|
||
simple, reliable, unequivocal calories.
|
||
**************************************************************************
|
||
We'll include charts for converting calories to more familiar measurement
|
||
units - heck we might even get fancy and throw in some metric unit
|
||
conversions - milli foot newt futons, or some such thing! >> Bert & Norm
|
||
===========================================================================
|
||
Message 4865 DATE/TIME: 02/11/94 01:26
|
||
From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
|
||
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
|
||
Subject: Fire Fly 3
|
||
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
|
||
|
||
This is in reference to the TOD.ZIP circuit from Lee Trippett!
|
||
.
|
||
Don't you just hate to dial into Keely Net and find that the board has been
|
||
|
||
Page 11
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
dead and no one's posted anything? Well, a lot's been going on, and those
|
||
of us who've been iced in here in Dallas have put the unexpected days off
|
||
to good use. Read and enjoy. Better yet, you'd best warm up your
|
||
soldering iron!
|
||
.
|
||
1) an unexpected interruption from Lee Trippett
|
||
.
|
||
A few days ago Lee Trippett sent us a diagram for a simple pulse circuit
|
||
which was supposed to dump a pulse of current into a coil and then connect
|
||
a load to the isolated coil (collector) to extract any over-unity power,
|
||
ala Tom Bearden - minus the degenerate power conductor. Lee had gotten
|
||
some incredible meter readings which showed very high input-to-output power
|
||
ratios. A couple of us here in Dallas immediately stopped whatever
|
||
experiments we had in progress and built a couple of these devices.
|
||
Independent confirmation found the current readings were erroneous due to
|
||
the fact that the circuit had the experimenter try to measure micro to nano
|
||
second wide pulses with current meters designed to measure steady-state
|
||
d.c. Fast oscilloscopes showed no real power gain. I dismissed the circuit
|
||
as an excellent but faulty try, and then I went back to my work.
|
||
.
|
||
2) nose to the grind wheel
|
||
.
|
||
As many of you who follow the postings on this net know, I proposed an
|
||
experiment several days ago and invited comments: if you connect a battery
|
||
to a very long wire for 1 uSEC then disconnect it, and you have an LED
|
||
which is 4 uSECs away (several thousand feet of wire), will the LED light
|
||
up? Don't be too quick to answer, for by the time the voltage potential
|
||
gets to the LED, the BATTERY WILL HAVE BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM THE CIRCUIT
|
||
FOR OVER 3 MICROSECONDS! Can an LED light up even when there is no longer
|
||
a battery supplying potential in the circuit? That's what I was trying to
|
||
prove. What is nice is that it is a yes or no problem. You either have
|
||
light, or you don't. The purpose of the experiment is to determine whether
|
||
a conductor can be potentialized and power withdrawn without running down
|
||
the battery.
|
||
.
|
||
3) The ghost of TOD returns
|
||
.
|
||
The lesson learned from Trippett's attempt to measure pulses with d.c.
|
||
meters was still very fresh in my mind. I needed to measure current
|
||
accurately in MY circuit, so I set up my meter in the d.c. power supply
|
||
lead to my circuit, not in any area where pulses were involved. Just to
|
||
make sure stray pulses from my oscillator (NE-555, the same as Lee's)
|
||
didn't get back to the meter through the power buss, I added several 0.01
|
||
ufd spike suppressor capacitors to the power leads on the chips, and threw
|
||
in an extra 1,000 ufd across the main buss to really filter the d.c. back
|
||
to the meter. I damn sure was not going to have any a.c. crap screwing up
|
||
my current measurements! My 'scope showed the prettiest 11.65 volt pure
|
||
d.c. input power anyone could ask for.
|
||
.
|
||
4) Wiring my test experiment - LOTS of wire!
|
||
.
|
||
In my test I originally was going to use two 5,000 foot 18 gauge wires to
|
||
perform my LED test. Norman Wootan found several thousand feet of RG-5x
|
||
coaxial cable, which is much easier to use. The circuit was very simple: a
|
||
555 oscillator provided pulses adjustable from 1 uSEC to 20 uSEC wide at a
|
||
repetition rate from a few hundred to several thousand pulses per second.
|
||
The 555 puts out a negative going pulse, and I wanted positive pulses, so I
|
||
fed tha 555's output into a CMOS CD-4001 NOR gate wired to act as an
|
||
inverter to give me positive going pulses. The CD-4001 chip is nice for
|
||
this work, because it can supply current directly to an LED without needing
|
||
|
||
Page 12
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
any current limiting resistors. I checked the output of the 4001 and had
|
||
very, very nice 1 to 20 uSEC pulses. Total circuit d.c. current, with no
|
||
LED was 7.8 milliamps. Plugging in the LED directly to the 4001 output
|
||
caused the current to rise to 8.5 milliamps, and the LED glowed nicely. I
|
||
removed the LED and connected the end of a 4,300 foot length of coax to the
|
||
output of the 4001. My scope showed an expected drop in pulse amplitude
|
||
and an increase in current to 9.5 milliamps. Expected, because I had
|
||
measured the capacitance of the coax and found that between the inner
|
||
conductor and the outer shielded jacket the coax measured out at 0.047 ufd.
|
||
This capacitance attenuated my pulse some, and loaded the circuit, but not
|
||
to an untoward degree. I measured the total circuit current - total
|
||
current going into the 555, the 4001, and the coax - and with NO LED load
|
||
yet. Current was 9.5 milliamps. I then connected the LED to the far end
|
||
of the coax.
|
||
.
|
||
5) The moment of truth
|
||
.
|
||
I had a 35 mhz dual trace triggered scope connected to each end of the
|
||
coax. I saw the 4001 put a 1 uSEC pulse of d.c. on the near-end of the
|
||
coax. Three uSECs later the pulse reached the LED at the other end of the
|
||
coax. THE LED LIT UP. EVEN THOUGH YOU COULD PLAINLY SEE ON THE SCOPE THAT
|
||
THE DRIVING POTENTIAL HAD BEEN REMOVED FROM THE COAX SEVERAL MICROSECONDS
|
||
PREVIOUSLY. EXPERIMENT COMPLETE!
|
||
.
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Wasn't that exciting!? Well, maybe some of you aren't real exciteable. I
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know I didn't pee in my pants. Heck, I didn't even dribble. Until I looked
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at my current meter. You remember that carefully filtered, isolated meter
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which was measuring the total power to the complete circuit? I knew
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already that the LED wanted to pull about 0.5 ma current to light up. My
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unloaded circuit was pulling 9.5 ma. Connecting the LED should have driven
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the current up to somewhere near 10 ma. Not even .01 of one ma more current
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flowed into the circuit to light up the LED! So where the hell was the
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power to light the LED coming from? It sure as heck wasn't coming through
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my meter from the power supply! I connected and disconnected the LED
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several times. My meter was registering current accurate to .01 of 1/000
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of one ampere. It never moved. It never saw the LED load. OK, I admit
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that maybe I dribbled a little then!
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.
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I called Norm. He went to Radio Shack and got all the required parts. I
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guided him over the phone on how to connect everything. Only he didn't
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have any coax! It was all on my bench. But he did have several thousand
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feet of wire on a spool. What the heck, Lee Trippitt had tried to use a
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coil - we decided to substitute Norm's spool of wire for the coax. Norm
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got the same results as I did with the coax! Quickly, I disconnected my
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coax and connected a spool of 3,300 feet of 22 gauge hookup wire I had
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left over from my TOD experiment. My LED glowed as brightly as ever. I
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found pulse width and frequency COULD be changed to force an increase in my
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current meter. I could set a wider pulse and finally get a response from
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my current meter when I removed and inserted the LED. However, OPTIMIZING
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the pulse caused the current in the circuit to DROP when the LED was
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plugged in! Neither Norm or I could explain what we were seeing. Norm
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hooked a second LED across the first LED on his device. Now he had TWO
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glowing LEDS. His meter didn't move a digit. How many LED's can we
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parallel before we start to use power from the supply? We don't know yet.
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But two for sure! Continued in next message.....................
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.
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Message 4866 DATE/TIME: 02/11/94 01:28
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From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
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To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
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Page 13
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Subject: Fire Fly 3
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Folder : A, "Public Mail"
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Experiment continued.............
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.
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As as additional test, I placed the LED near a precision photocell (which
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had a 2.2 ufd tantalum cap across it to filter pulses into pure d.c.) and
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measured light output. The photcell showed 0.303 volts. I then re-
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connected the LED through a potentiometer to the d.c. power supply and set
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the pot so the LED put out the same light as earlier driven by the coil.
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I then disconnected/connected the LED and watched my power meter. Yep, it
|
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moved 0.5 ma, just as Old Ampere would have expected. I moved the LED back
|
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to the coil circuit. I connected/disconnected the LED to the coil again.
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Nope, still NO additional current flow, but THE LED LIT UP JUST AS BRIGHT!
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Ah Ha! Maybe the secret was in the pulses! Maybe if I used pulses instead
|
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of pure d.c. on the control pot test?! So I changed the pot connection
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on the LED test driver from the d.c. buss to the 4001 pulsed output and set
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the pot so the light output was the same as when the LED was connected to
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the coil. When I unplugged the LED, current dropped 0.5 ma. Ampere was
|
||
happy. Volta was happy. So, this test showed that it didn't make a damn
|
||
bit of difference whether the "control" test pot used d.c. or pulsed power!
|
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If I connected the LED to continuous d.c. or pulsed d.c. I could see the
|
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current to the circuit go UP when I connected the LED. But NOT if I
|
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connected the SAME LED to the coil circuit! I had run out of ideas. That
|
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LED was going to light up and pull no current from my power supply whether
|
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I liked it or not.
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||
.
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6) You too can amaze your friends!
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.
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Jerry is putting the diagram on the net. Maybe five bucks worth of parts.
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Less if you already built the TOD. A spool of wire. A sensitive photocell
|
||
is optional (heck, we'll let you borrow one of ours if you want). There
|
||
are no switching transistors involved. Please build one of these and start
|
||
with a narrow pulse, about 400 to 600 hertz repetition rate. Slowly
|
||
increase pulse width until the LED glows. Make note of the current on your
|
||
current meter. Disconnect your LED. The current meter SHOULD show a
|
||
significant drop in power when you remove the load. It won't. Plug the
|
||
LED back in. It lights up. Current should go up. It does not. Nifty,
|
||
huh?
|
||
.
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Norm thinks a resonance effect is taking place within the coil/coax. I
|
||
agree. Perhaps the coil or coax IS forming a tuned circuit, and the LED is
|
||
only an insignificant part of the circuit current....BUT that LED is in
|
||
SERIES with the coil! Open the LED and you open the coil - end of tuned
|
||
circuit - if the measured current is due to a tuned circuit, opening the
|
||
circuit should stop the resonance and affect the current anyway. This is
|
||
not observed to happen. Build this critter and see if you can expand
|
||
the observed results.
|
||
.
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||
P.S., Norm has been able to coax the LEDs to light with a TOTAL circuit
|
||
current of 2.5 ma! That's combined power to the LED's, and both
|
||
chips. I can't get below 7.5 ma. He's using a much different coil
|
||
than I. I'd be much interested in hearing what results you get. >>
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||
Bert
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Message 4879 DATE/TIME: 02/12/94 03:52
|
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From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED --
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To : BERT POOL
|
||
Subject: LED coil
|
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Folder : A, "Public Mail"
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Page 14
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I was going to drop this off as a note about the TOD circuit, but I read
|
||
messages first, and WOW. I have to try it. We have 500' spools of twisted
|
||
pair at work, and maybe a big spool of microphone coax. If I had done this
|
||
experiment, I would have used a commercial signal generator, and would
|
||
totally have missed the strangeness in the current draw of the generator's
|
||
power supply. REAL scientists would use expensive store-bought equipment
|
||
rather than 555's, and so would be unable to notice (or even measure)
|
||
important data.
|
||
.
|
||
One thing I must ask: is your mA meter before or after the filter
|
||
capacitors in the supply? If the meter inserted BETWEEN the capacitors and
|
||
your circuit, then there is AC current spikes going through the meter and
|
||
maybe screwing things up. If your filter capacitors are mounted on your
|
||
breadboard itself, and if the meter is inserted in series with one lead
|
||
coming from the separate power supply, then everything should be OK. You
|
||
probably are aware that capacitors smooth out the DC voltage by allowing
|
||
your circuit to draw big glitches of current from the capacitors (and so
|
||
THROUGH the wires between the capacitors and your circuit)
|
||
.
|
||
Oh, on the TOD circuit. It looks like both Q2 and Q3 could be on at the
|
||
same time at one edge of the square wave, thus shorting the power supply
|
||
directly to the load. This could be where the tiny pulses of current are
|
||
coming from. The cure would be to build some kind of logic circuit to
|
||
generate a very fast sequence where the transistors turn on and off
|
||
alternately, but with an adjustable deadzone between their signals to
|
||
guarantee that both are off for a short time.
|
||
.
|
||
Also in TOD, if a current starts going in the collector coil and then you
|
||
turn Q2 off, the current WILL keep going because of inductive kick, and
|
||
will blow a path through the VFETs for an instant. You might want to
|
||
connect a high speed power diode backwards across the collector coil. Then
|
||
again, if there are weird thing going on in the circuit, adding this diode
|
||
might just make the circuit behave "normally" and kill the interesting
|
||
stuff.
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|
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Message 4882 DATE/TIME: 02/12/94 04:00
|
||
From : BILL BEATY -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
|
||
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
|
||
Subject: 90deg resonance
|
||
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
|
||
|
||
See if you have heard this acoustic idea before: I was imagining atoms in
|
||
ether-flow terms, and being aware that sound vibrations are supposed to
|
||
affect this process, wondered what would happen if you had not one but TWO
|
||
motions going on inside a solid. IF you took a block of iron and blasted
|
||
sound waves at one end, you would set up a resonance (depending on block
|
||
size) where the atoms inside the center of the block were swerving
|
||
violently back and forth. NOW, if you did the same on another face of the
|
||
block, but had the driving wave 90 degrees out of phase, the overlap of
|
||
the two waves within the block would result in the atoms being forced to
|
||
move all together in tiny circles, rather than just back and forth. Normal
|
||
physics wouldn't predict that anything weird would happen if this
|
||
experiment were performed, at least as long as the frequencies used were
|
||
low, not gigahertz or any- thing. What would you think would happen?
|
||
Would the spiral effects near the actual atoms be forced to align because
|
||
of the circular sloshing forces? What happens when large amounts of atoms
|
||
all spin as one? Does the iron block become a gyroscope, a psionic beam
|
||
source, or does it just get slightly warm?
|
||
.
|
||
This might be a job for those large-volume piezo transducers you had found
|
||
|
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Page 15
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|
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|
||
|
||
|
||
in one of your surplus sources. A contact transducer would be better than
|
||
anything else for getting large wattages of sound into a solid object. I'm
|
||
interested in trying this out.
|
||
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|
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Message 4934 DATE/TIME: 02/14/94 16:44
|
||
From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
|
||
To : BILL BEATY
|
||
Subject: (R) LED coil
|
||
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
|
||
|
||
Bill, my filters are on the circuit board, so any noise has to get past
|
||
them to get to the meter, which IS in the power lead to the board. I
|
||
really don't see any garbage getting back to the meter - it is measuring
|
||
steady d.c. current. Your comments on Q2 and Q3 not having any overlap in
|
||
timing is absolutely correct - the circuit as is does not have any that I
|
||
measured. And, it would be quite difficult to add an additional circuit
|
||
between them to insert a few nanoseconds delay between them (at least I
|
||
think it would be difficult...if you want to, please do so and send me a
|
||
copy of your change - I'd like to try it.). >> Bert
|
||
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|
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Message 4975 DATE/TIME: 02/17/94 16:16
|
||
From : JOEL MCCLAIN
|
||
To : ALL
|
||
Subject: Cheap Spikes
|
||
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
|
||
|
||
To SEE the spike energy of an inductive field collapse, at MANY TIMES the
|
||
input voltage, assuming that you are like me and don't have a 'scope handy,
|
||
do the following: Run down to Radio Shack, and pick up a relay, their P/N
|
||
275-206, a couple of their 29 cent 9volt batteries, and a NE-2 neon lamp.
|
||
Jumper pins 1 and 4 together. Jumper pins 9 and 13 together. Put the NE-2
|
||
across pins 13 and 14, the coil leads. Put the batteries together so you
|
||
have 18volts output. Put the + lead on pin 12, and the minus lead on pin
|
||
14. As the relay self-oscillates, the NE-2 will light, apparently
|
||
constantly, but actually at the spike rate. Since the voltage applied
|
||
(18vdc) is well below the level needed to illuminate the neon, you are
|
||
seeing the high negative spikes at work. If you still don't believe it,
|
||
lick your finger and put it across pins 13 and 14, provided that you aren't
|
||
wearing a pacemaker! Now, CAPTURING that energy and using it to self-
|
||
energize something is the prize! CUL Joel
|
||
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|
||
Message 4987 DATE/TIME: 02/18/94 23:32
|
||
From : JOEL MCCLAIN
|
||
To : ALL
|
||
Subject: More Cheap Spikes
|
||
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
|
||
|
||
In an earlier message, I described how to create large spikes which could
|
||
be seen as they ionize a plasma tube. If anyone built this device, you may
|
||
want to go on to the next step, which is to connect a second NE-2 from the
|
||
relay's pins 1 to pin 14, the ground. You will find an EQUAL AMPLITUDE
|
||
spike coming from the contacts, which is occurring at opposite times as the
|
||
inductive kick. With this, it should be possible to energize a xfmr
|
||
primary with a center tap on pin 14, and the inputs to pins 1 and 13, and
|
||
have a complete circuit. This is both the original kick, as well as the
|
||
current-free potential which Bearden and others have described. Enjoy.
|
||
Joel
|
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