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Taken from KeelyNet BBS (214) 324-3501
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Sponsored by Vangard Sciences
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PO BOX 1031
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Mesquite, TX 75150
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May 30, 1993
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This file courtesy of the Double Helix BBS.
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WTIE -= Wastewater Treatment Information Exchange =- Node 2 11-25-92 21:43
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Name: SAMMY FINKELMAN
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Date: 05-14-91 (16:11) Number: 49 of 2699
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To: ALL Refer#: NONE
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From: JIM PAVLICEK Read: HAS REPLIES
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Subj: MAGNETICS & SEWAGE Status: SENDER PASSWORD
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Conf: MAIN BOARD (0) Read Type: TEXT SCAN (+)
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I would like any input on anyone who has information on using magnets for
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water treatment. I visited a swimming pool where the owner claims that his
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hardness and alkalinity problems were solved by the installation of a
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magnet around the water line going to the showers in the bathhouse and
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into the swimming pool. I have read that studies on magnets have shown
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that they align the charge on ions in water. For wastewater studies, this
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would be a benefit were a person using an UV light after a sand filter.
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Before wastewater is processed through a UV light, the magnet could
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decrease the amount of hardness and scaling in the UV reactor (i.e. the
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teflon tube or quartz tube) Has anyone ever tried this before? I am
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thinking of trying it, but I would like to obtain research funds to try
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it? Can anyone help me on this ? Scaling could cause a buildup on the
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exterior of a quartz tube or on the interior of a teflon tube which would
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decrease the efficiency of the UV light. Magnet researchers make other
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fabulous claims also, such as the strength of the magnet would have a
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positive effect on the decrease of pathogenic material which would make
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them easier to kill under a UV light ? Believe it or not ? Baloney or
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remarkably true ( can I get this to be on UNSOLVED MYSTERIES on NBC ?)
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Anyway, in all seriousness, please leave a message for me on this BBS if
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you care to comment.
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Date: 05-31-91 (17:40) Number: 59 of 2699
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To: ALL Refer#: NONE
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From: JIM PAVLICEK Read: (N/A)
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Subj: UV LIGHTS & MAGNETS Status: SENDER PASSWORD
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Conf: MAIN BOARD (0) Read Type: TEXT SCAN (+)
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I am currently considering adding onto a single resident sewage treatment
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plant that I am building soon (when my regulatory agency approves the
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permits) the use of a UV light as the primary disinfectant device.
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Although I am worried about the build up of the scale and other debris on
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the teflon tube over many years, I am going to use magnets to keep the
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scale off. A large swimming pool nearby used a 11,000 gauss strength
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magent on the water main leading into his showers. After installation of
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the magnets, the build up of scale decreased significantly. I am hoping
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that the same will occur on the UV light that I am planning to use. I am
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planning to use a Model 12L from Northland Technologies.
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Anyone who has used this light for disinfection after a buried sand filter
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should kindly leave a note of their own personal experiences with it.
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Also, written research exists about the strength of magnets on water
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treatment. I will be installing one between my septic tank and my dosing
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tank which feeds wastewater into the buried sand filter. Maybe this will
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assist with the activity level of the positive and negatively charged
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particles entering into the sand filter. Separating the two charges out
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before the sand filter may help the sand filter work better. (note: I am
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using three 500 gallon septic tanks - the magnet will be in place on the
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last septic tank) Anyway, this all may seem crazy, but I will keep
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everyone informed. . .
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Date: 06-17-92 (17:00) Number: 2112 of 3478
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To: ALL Refer#: NONE
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From: JIM PAVLICEK Read: HAS REPLIES
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Subj: RESULTS OF USING MAGNETS Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
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Conf: MAIN BOARD (0) Read Type: TEXT SCAN (+)
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Some time ago I requested information on using magnets for wastewater
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treatment. I was installing a new septic system for my home and I was
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looking for ways to increase the efficiency of this proposed system. The
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system has been installed since 11/91.
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The system consists of 3 septic tanks, a dosing chamber with a sewage
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pump, a sand filter, and a UV light which leads into an 810 foot discharge
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line. Magnets were placed before the third septic tank. The third septic
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tank also contains a ZABEL filter which helps reduce the solids going on
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the sand filter. Magnets were also placed before and after the dosing
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chamber. A magnet was also placed before the UV light. The results of the
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first test as required on my NPDES permit are:
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CBOD = 2 mg/l
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Suspended Solids = 6 mg/l
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ph = 7
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fecal coliform = or < 10 colonies/100 ml of sample.
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I am really pleased with the results of my test since they are about 85%
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to 90% below the lower limits set for my effluents on my NPDES permits. I
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give credit to my success partially to the magnets because I do think they
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help reduce the solids and keep the UV reactor chamber clean so that the
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UV light works properly. I will be asking how other systems which are
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somewhat comparable to mine are doing. I would reccommend magnets to any
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person or desinger because I do beleive they help reduce solids and they
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maximize the amount of settling of solids in the septic tanks. The other
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part of my system I would like to comment on is the UV light. It has
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worked wonderfully. Compared to using chlorine tablets, it is more
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effective, cheaper to operate, and nontoxic to the receiving stream which
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carries away my wastewater. However, if anyone wants to use one, I would
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suggest they overcompensate the flow on a UV light to allow for greater
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kill of pathogens in the effluent coming from the sand filter. Another
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nice thing about the UV light is that it is much more convient for the
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homeowner. The homeowner never has to keep checking on the chlorine
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tablets which can sometimes bridge up in the tablet chlorinator. Please
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feel free to leave any questions you may have on this topic on this
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BBS...It was nice sharing this with everyone.
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Date: 07-03-92 (11:30) Number: 2281 of 3478
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To: JIM PAVLICEK Refer#: 2112
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From: MATT RICKABY Read: 07-10-92 (13:17) HAS REPLIES
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Subj: RESULTS OF USING MAGNETS Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
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Conf: MAIN BOARD (0) Read Type: TEXT SCAN (+)
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Do you have any control data from the system obtained before you installed
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the magnets? If so how does the data compare to the present setup? Why do
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you feel the magnets are contributing to a lower solids loss in the
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effluent? Why do you feel they contribute to a lower solids buildup on the
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UV chamber walls? I'm interested in your results but still very skeptical.
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I remember some salesman trying to sell these things for the fuel lines of
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my furnace to " polarize " the molecules of fuel for a more efficient burn
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but he could not supply any backup to his claims beyond presenting a vague
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theory.
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Date: 07-10-92 (13:17) Number: 2339 of 3478
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To: MATT RICKABY Refer#: 2281
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From: JIM PAVLICEK Read: 07-12-92 (10:05) HAS REPLIES
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Subj: RESULTS OF USING MAGNETS Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
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Conf: MAIN BOARD (0) Read Type: TEXT SCAN (+)
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My answers to your questions are as follows:
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1. Control Data consists of comparing similiar systems installed without
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any magnets. These systems have a variable difference of 5 to 10
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percent increase in solids over what my results are coming out with.
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2. The electromagnetic field initiates a charge (note that the charge is
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somewhat weak) on the effluent. The charge lines up all negative and
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positive charges in a fashion that slows down the ongoing movement
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between negative and positive charges in the various elements in the
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effluent. Scaling on the reactor wall of the UV chamber takes place
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because the reactor wall itself has charges on it which attract
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minerals with opposite charges which leads to scaling which in turn
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leads to the UV light from penetrating the effluent. Also, the
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magnets I used were also placed on the septic tanks. The "lining up"
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of charges in a large tank also contributes to increased flocullation
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in the tank because the charges placed upon the effluent are only
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small and somewhat temporary, BUT this temporary charge effect allows
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all "unline charges" in the septic tank to cluster around the "lined
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charges" which in turn leads to increased flocullation or clumping of
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solids coming together.
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This summer I was inspected by a PADER Inspector who is doing a summer
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study on single resident sewage treatment plants. Her data being collected
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on these systems seem to indicate that this addition of magnets seems to
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assist in better performance of this single resident sewage treatment
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plant. Her data has not all been collected yet. She will have a report
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which will be done at the end of the summer.
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You may think this is a vague theory, yet I was introduced to this concept
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of magnetics and sewage through a few scientific journals devoted to the
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study of electromagnetism. A friend of mine is a magnet hobbyist, and he
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gave me the address of a man in Minnesasota who has all kinds of
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information about magnets. I wrote to him about magnets and sewage, and
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his reponse was to send an article from a scientific journal which is
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published in Germany. This journal (I can't give you the name of it
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because it is in German) discussed research done on water treatment in
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Russia. All of the concepts I have discussed here in this reply to you
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were in this article.
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BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I WAS VERY SKEPTICAL TOO..YET IT DOES SEEM TO WORK !!
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How effiently it works is another question. If I had the resources, it
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would be insteresting to note what effect would take place if one could
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vary the strength of the electromagnetic charge..More Research needs to be
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done. I hope this interests you.
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Date: 07-12-92 (10:05) Number: 2356 of 3478
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To: JIM PAVLICEK Refer#: 2339
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From: MATT RICKABY Read: 07-23-92 (13:45) HAS REPLIES
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Subj: RESULTS OF USING MAGNETS Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
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Conf: MAIN BOARD (0) Read Type: TEXT SCAN (+)
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I am certainly interested but remain skeptical. May I have the address of
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the guy in Minn. so I may contact for further information?
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Date: 07-23-92 (13:45) Number: 2430 of 3478
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To: MATT RICKABY Refer#: 2356
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From: JIM PAVLICEK Read: 07-26-92 (07:23)
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Subj: RESULTS OF USING MAGNETS Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
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Conf: MAIN BOARD (0) Read Type: TEXT SCAN (+)
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Yes, I will be happy to. I will have to research my files to access this
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information. Can you leave your address on this BB so I can send you what
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information I have ?
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Date: 03-18-92 (17:15) Number: 1384 of 3478
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To: ALL Refer#: NONE
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From: JIM PAVLICEK Read: (N/A)
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Subj: QUESTIONS ON ADD OF BACTI Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
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Conf: MAIN BOARD (0) Read Type: TEXT SCAN (+)
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I would like to know if anyone has any experience with the addition of
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commercially prepared bacteria used for assisting the digestion of sludge
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in septic tank effluent. Doews it help at all in making the system work
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better ? Also, I have a sand filter for filtering the septage. Will this
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bacteria assist in establing a better culture of benefical bacteria which
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will break down the wastewater components better ? Thanks for your help
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and comments.
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Date: 08-02-92 (15:09) Number: 2512 of 3478
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To: JIM PAVLICEK Refer#: NONE
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From: WAYNE GREER Read: 11-10-92 (17:02) HAS REPLIES
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Subj: BACTREIA & SEPTIC TANKS Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
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Conf: MAIN BOARD (0) Read Type: TEXT SCAN (+)
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I am new to this system. I Read your message dated 3-18-92, with questions
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about bacteria additions to septic systems. I have information that you
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would be interested in. 601-734-6081.
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Date: 11-10-92 (17:02) Number: 3351 of 3478
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To: WAYNE GREER Refer#: 2512
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From: JIM PAVLICEK Read: 11-10-92 (20:02)
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Subj: BACTREIA & SEPTIC TANKS Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
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Conf: MAIN BOARD (0) Read Type: TEXT SCAN (+)
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Can you send it to me ? Send it to Jim Pavlicek, RD#2, Box 242-A,
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Cochranton, PA 16314. Sorry I took so long to reply...
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