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F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 44 30 Oct 2000
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
| _ | 1-714-639-0377 1:1/23 |
| / \ | |
| /|oo \ | |
| (_| /_) | |
| _`@/_ \ _ | |
| | | \ \\ | Editor: Warren Bonner |
| | (*) | \ )) | editor@fidonews.org |
| |__U__| / \// | wdbonner@pacbell.net |
| _//|| _\ / | |
| (_/(_|(____/ | |
| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
Editorial ................................................ 1
2. CORRECTIONS .............................................. 2
3. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 4
LETTERS TO EDITOR ........................................ 4
4. ARTICLES ................................................. 8
ARTICLES ................................................. 8
5. COLUMNS .................................................. 10
Ol'WDB's Column .......................................... 10
6. FIDONET BIOGRAPHIES ...................................... 12
Fidonet Biographies ...................................... 12
7. NET HUMOR ................................................ 14
HUMOR .................................................... 14
8. QUESTION OF THE WEEK ..................................... 15
QUESTION OF THE WEEK ..................................... 15
9. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 16
Fidonet Related Sites .................................... 16
10. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 21
FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 21
FIDONEWS 17-44 Page 1 30 Oct 2000
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EDITORIAL
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editor@fidonews.org
This week we have a "mail storm" of echo mail in the echoes most
heavily traveled by Elflords and their subjects. It seems that the
election time table is a bone of contention by some of the brightest
minds in Fidoland. I don't find the various excuses for delaying the
election until after the holidays credible. Why? Simply because there
will ALWAYS, (any time of the year), be obstacles of holidays,
vacations, unrest in some regions, and pouting, kicking, pointing, mud
pie deliveries... etc.; so let us get on with it NOW.
Since the Z1C serves at the behest of the RCC, the same should huddle
in conference among themselves and come to the conclusions necessary
for the accomplishment of an election for the Z1C position. Either
announce a Sysop type election, or a RCC type election.
In either case an "Election Chairman" should be appointed by the RCC.
She/he should announce the rules of the election. The rules should be
simple, straight forward, and succinct. Considering this age of
instant electronic communication, the time frame can be cut
dramatically from the time frames used in the past. Months to do what
should be accomplished in weeks, should be one of the MAIN guide
lines. By today's technology. This could be accomplished by
Thanksgiving Day in America. I can hear the roar of disapproval now...
Can't please all.
JMHO.
Ed.
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CORRECTIONS
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(8443) Mon 23 Oct 00 3:33p
By: Lee Ayrton
To: FidoNews Robot
Re: FidoNews 17:43 [02/03] Columns
St: Reply in 8466
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>FR> Did you know...
LA> Did you know that a lot of stuff that people thought was really,
LA> really true ... isn't? See www.snopes.com or www.urbanlegends.com
LA> for the nitty gritty and amusing details.
>FR> Coca-Cola was originally green.
LA> I can't find any references to prove or refute this one. It _is_
LA> possible to make colas clear, or colored. Coke bottles were LA>
green, though.
~~~~~~~~~~~SNIP~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lee, the editor put this
little "tickler punny" in as a light moment for the Snooze readers,
not as FACT. Since you took it seriously and challenged it, I took you
advice and looked more carefully at your referenced URL. I did find
references to refute, Correction below:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
How Green Was My Ballyhoo Claim: Coca-Cola was originally green.
Status: False.
Origins: Though this tidbit of knowledge has been widely distributed
as part of an Internet "Did You Know?" list, at no time in Coca-Cola's
history has that beverage been green. The original formula called for
caramel to give Coca-Cola its rich brown color, and although the
recipe has undergone some changes through the years, none of them
affected the ultimate color of the product.
(Brown also hides impurities in any given batch, something the
backroom chemist who invented Coca-Cola in 1886 kept well in mind as
he proceeded with his formulation. These days syrup producers and
bottlers have no impurities to hide, but back in the "three copper
kettles in somebody's basement" days, covering up what might have
inadvertently dropped into the mix was a concern, and brown hid
indiscretions remarkably well.)
Coke has at times been bottled in green glass bottles, which perhaps
explains the popularity of this particular rumor.
Barbara "rub of the green" Mikkelson
Last updated: 16 November 1999
The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/green.htm
Please use this URL in all links or references to this page
FIDONEWS 17-44 Page 3 30 Oct 2000
Urban Legends Reference Pages (C) 1995-2000 by Barbara and David P.
Mikkelson
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Note: Editor normally would not use space to correct items unless they
pertained to personal misquotes, or misinformation about Fidonet.
Lee's challenge was correct, thus the correction.
ED
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FIDONEWS 17-44 Page 4 30 Oct 2000
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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(8378) Mon 23 Oct 00 10:28p Rcvd: Tue 24 Oct 10:37a
By: Ruth Argust
To: Warren Bonner
Re: R14 - Let it Alone!
St: Rcvd
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Hiya Warren.
How da hell ya doing ol' man?
Warren Bonner wrote in a message to Ruth Argust:
> Had Ross discussed the situation with Douglas via netmail (since
WB> Very true. Although I do not think Ross meant it as a malicious
WB> attack, some others put that twist on it. He should have used
WB> netmail had he given it the credence it proved to merit later.
Hang on cuz I am gonna say one thing GOOD about our esteemed BK :) A
very long time ago, I was having some severe problems in an echo I
moderate and had to cut the feed of a user with a really dirty mouth.
I crashed netmail out the wazoo and got nary a response from the
sysop. (I think BK was the REC of R10 at that time and not yet the
RC.) Well, there I was, not wanting to take it a step further and I
asked BK for advice on the issue, giving him the details. Kohl gave me
a lecture on being patient to wait on a response even though the war
was really ripping my echo into shreds. Sure enough, I did get a
response about the next day from the sysop who deeply apologized for
not having answered sooner and he told me he had cut the user's
access. The sysop had been out of town on business.
Now, to be honest, one assumes that the RC's are paying attention to
their netmail more closely the average Joe Sysop does and if I see a
post from an RC who has not yet answered *important* netmail I sent
them, I start to really wonder.
>>RA> circumstances. Doing so did exemplify someone with a nasty >
disposition.
>WB> Exemplify = "Is to set example". Possibly you ment
"expose". *^)
RA> No, I did mean exemplify but thanks for asking :) As Temp Editor
you =should= do things like that <g>.
WB> At any rate it is water under the bridge, and we should hold to
WB> each other with strong working and forgiving friendships if our
WB> favorite pet puppy is to survive the operations necessary for it
WB> to survive.
Tell the party of the first part that he should not dredge up old
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stories which are untrue and then he will not get corrected.
WB> You and I have worked togather a number of years now, we
WB> haven't always pleased eachother in opinions, but we have fought
WB> togather for what was right for puppy Fido.
Now that's a very polite way to say in the past you and I have fought
with each other like banshees ;)
WB> Time for all of us to forgive any grievances of the past, they
WB> don't make for good building blocks for the future. You are one of
WB> the strongest, brightest minds in Fido-any-zone. Let your light
WB> shine pure, undiminished by shades of dark past echo thunder and
WB> lightening.
You are getting downright poetic, Warren. How did you hide this from
me for all these years? S M O O C H !
WB> We all love your spirit, and rich humor when you feel good. 8^)
I feel like crap. Will know more (I hope) tomorrow. If I disappear,
someone will let you know why since I have posted what's up in
fn_sysop. But don't you worry none, I'll be back with my six shooter
loaded with silver bullets -:)
WB> Please don't take this wrong. You are one of my best Fido
friends.
You have been a very bright spot in my Fido life, Warren. I don't
=always= take things wrong from you. Now if it was Joe............
<BEG>
*ruth*
---
Fido-folks, let's all take a moment to ask our God's blessings for
Ruthie and all others in our Fido family who are suffering great pain
and need releif and healing.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~end~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sit down for a spell, Ol' WDB; I've got a little tale to tell you...
It's a sordid, seedy tale, the same kind that sells so well in those
supermarket tabloids, and it involves nodelists, lies and echomail.
It seems there's been news getting out about some very disturbing
elfish behavior of the chief nodelist clerk of that region that claims
to be the great bastion of Fido freedom. Apparently if a sysop in
Region 12 doesn't agree with the way things are being done there, he's
looked down upon. If a R12 sysop chooses not to vote in their annual
elections, he's apparently casted as an "outsider", and his
nodelisting may even get pulled for "inactivity in the R12 echos", or
some other foolishness in such vague terms as "lack of participation".
It seems the elfishness even extends to the holy and anointed mail
mover and "defender of the dogma" of Region 12, to whom someone
apparently forgot to mention that the moving of echomail should not
FIDONEWS 17-44 Page 6 30 Oct 2000
involve politics. Heaven forbid that an R12 node might try to crash
route a netmail; the Fido "free region" is internet aware, don't you
know; and has perfect routed netmail lines that never lose mail. Why
bother with a silly little thing like POTS connectivity? Who still
uses modems these days anyhow?
But I digress... Getting back to the elfin antics of the top banana
in the R12 bunch; it seems recently this "nodelist clerk" took a
dislike to the sudden appearance of a certain node number of which he
did not approve, in the path lines of a certain member of his region's
echomail. Now this little detail perturbed this nodelist clerk so much
that he just felt he had to fire off an immediate netmail to the
offending node in order to voice his displeasure.
Now is it just me, or does anyone else out there wonder just what
business it is for a "nodelist clerk" where one of his regions sysops
pulls his echomail from? The last time I checked, getting an echomail
feed from a different source than the "approved" one was not a Fido
crime, and not even against any policy that a region might choose not
to recognize. It's funny, but when I started receiving echomail from a
source in Region 18, it didn't seem such a big urgent deal to my
"appointed" RC-17 that he felt he had to send me a netmail to try and
get me "back in line". In fact, now I'm feeding my local net from that
same source, and never heard a peep against it out of my own region.
Yes, Ol' WDB, you guessed right; the node number which the R12
ElfLo-* err, "nodelist clerk" objected to so much to was none other
than 1:134/11; my own happy Fido home on the range. It's unlikely the
RC-12 will believe it, but this particular sysop I did not solicit, as
I do not believe in that sort of thing. He came to me of his own
volition, since he was one of our hubs in another FTN of which I am an
administrator, and he had returned from the black hole that others
thought had swallowed him up for good, and wanted a feed in that
network. As he was very dissatisfied with the holy anointed R12 mail
mover, he also asked me to feed him Fidonet echomail. Being a good,
hospitable Albertan and former Nova Scotian, I was not about to turn
away a friend in need.
Now true, I may have locked horns a time or two in the FN_SYSOP echo
with the RC-12, but really, when it comes down to it, I am a Z1B mail
hub, and anyone in this fine network who requests an echomail feed
from me will be readily accomodated, so long as I have the resources
to do so. I will *not* pick and choose who I feed echomail to based on
Fidonet politics, and I should be able to expect that the elfishness
of others should not be used as a vice to "squeeze" any of my
downlinks about their echomail choices.
It seems to me it doesn't make a difference if a *C is elected or
appointed in this network. An elected *C who claims to be just a
"nodelist clerk" clearly *can* act just like the ElfLords of yore. Not
to worry, though; by the time this letter goes into the 'snooze, at
least two oppressed nodes in Region 12 will have availed themselves of
the geographic exemption clause in the Fidonet P-1.04 policy document
and found asylum elsewhere. And to think; R12 thought *they* owned the
concept of political asylum in Fidonet!
FIDONEWS 17-44 Page 7 30 Oct 2000
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FIDONEWS 17-44 Page 8 30 Oct 2000
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ARTICLES
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FTSC- What does it do?
By David Hallford
First of all I would like to thank those who wrote me about my
previous article. All responses were positive, which (trust me) is not
the normal response I get when I write an article for the Fidonews.
One thing most of the messages had in common were a
misunderstanding of what the Fidonet Technical Standards Committee
really does.
Excerpts from FTA-1000 revision 2 dated 29 December 1997 and titled
"FTSC Charter"
================== 1. Mission ----------
The Fidonet Technical Standards Committee (FTSC) is responsible for
providing a thorough technical definition of FidoNet and its
protocols sufficient to maintain it as a compatible electronic mail
system, specifically by:
1. Documenting current practice in technical standards.
2. Encouraging new technologies in Fidonet software development.
3. Reassessing and revising FTS documents regularly.
4. Being publicly accessible to Fidonet sysops.
5. Distributing Technical Standards and Proposals.
6. Providing FTS document interpretations on software compatibility.
The FTSC shall maintain a publication which documents only the
minimum acceptable protocol for a Fidonet node to receive mail as
referred to in the current FidoNet Policy Document (Policy 4.07 at
this writing) The FTSC shall not take upon itself any right to
increase or decrease this requirement without express direction to do
so from the International Coordinator (IC).
===================
As you can see, the FTSC does not establish the technical standards
of Fidonet,they document them. This does not mean that individual
members of the FTSC, writing as individuals, do not write software
which ends up in a standard. It means that the FTSC doesn't establish
what the standard is - that is done by its acceptance by Fidonet *C's
and SysOps. The FTSC merely takes the already established standard and
documents it's use.
So (IMHO) don't allow yourself to be limited by a current standard. If
you have a better way of doing something - DO IT! - if it is accepted
by the SysOps of Fidonet then it will be documented as a standard.
FIDONEWS 17-44 Page 9 30 Oct 2000
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COLUMNS
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wdbonner@pacbell.net
DID YOU KNOW...
Q. Email sent with only a "handle@something.com" is almost anonymous?
A. Always include your name in closing your message.
Q. What occurs more often in December than any other month?
A. Conception.
Q. What separates "60 Minutes," on CBS from every other TV show?
A. No theme song.
Q. Half of all Americans live within 50 miles of what?
A. Their birthplace.
Q. Most boat owners name their boats. What is the most popular boat
name requested?
A. Obsession
Q. If you were to spell out numbers, how far would you have to go
until you would find the letter "A"?
A. One thousand
Q. What do bullet proof vests, fire escapes, windshield wipers, and
laser printers all have in common?
A. All invented by women.
Q. What is the only food that doesn't spoil?
A. Honey
Q. There are more collect calls on this day than any other day of the
year?
A. Father's Day
Q. What trivial fact about Mel Blanc (voice of Bugs Bunny) is the most
ironic?
A. He was allergic to carrots.
Q. What is an activity performed by 40% of all people at a party?
A. Snoop in your medicine cabinet.
FIDONEWS 17-44 Page 11 30 Oct 2000
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FIDONET BIOGRAPHIES
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Frank Vest
1:124/6308(.1)
flv@texoma.net
http://texoma.net/~flv
Hello to all of Fidonet,
Things happen in life that make you believe that there is a power
above what we know and experience in this world. Sometimes it's a
little thing, sometime it's big. The big stuff is easy to see and
realize, the little things take more looking, but are just as
wonderful.
Generally in this section of Fidonews, I give a Web Page location and
then a review of the page in as much of an analytical manner as my
abilities can.
Ok, here's the page address:
http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org/
And the title:
TartarNet (2:5049@fidonet) official site
Now, pardon me while I "bubble"(praise & ramble) a while. :-)
To say this is a great site is by far an understatement in my humble
opinion. I love the background! What is that picture of? Is it clouds
or...? Anyway, I like it!
The site is Russian... Tatarstan Republic (Russia) to be exact. Now,
don't let this stop you from visiting the site. The address that I
gave came up in english. If I understand what I think I understand,
the page detects the language you are using (from Windows) and
displays the page accordingly.
I really wish I had learned a second language when I was in school
those many years ago. At my age now, I don't think that learning a
second language would be possible. If you are a young person in
school, learn that second, third, or as many, languages as you can.
You might not think it worthwhile now and it might be a pain, but you
will thank yourself later in life. Don't argue with me, just DO IT!
;-)
Ok, back to the site.
Look this site over good. Follow _ALL_ the links. Many are in Russian,
but many are in english. Even the ones in Russian tell a story if you
look and take a few minutes to study them. Find the photos of the
people in this TartarNet and see what they look like, who they are and
FIDONEWS 17-44 Page 13 30 Oct 2000
realize that we aren't so different after all! If you follow the links
deep enough, you'll learn about the Tatarstan Republic, Fidonet in
Russia, Fidonet in this area of Russia and more.
Now, what was it I was saying in the first paragraph of this review??
Ah yes...
"Things happen in life that make you believe that there is a power
above what we know and experience in this world. Sometimes it's a
little thing, sometime it's big. The big stuff is easy to see and
realize, the little things take more looking, but are just as
wonderful."
Now, I've probably got you wondering and confused. Here we go:
In the Fidonews Echo, there has been much talk about different
formats, languages and ways to offer the Fidonews and Fidonet. Here's
a place that is doing just that. Praise be to the people behind this
site. They have went the "extra mile" and learned the "second
language" and used it to show Fidonet to their country as well as
allow another country to understand their country. A small thing? Yes,
but just as wonderful. If you look hard, you will also realize that
this "TartarNet" offers their Echos to any that is wanting them.
Another small thing, but still wonderful.
I'm going to shut up now. In closing, I'll say this:
Get off you behind, fire up your web browser, connect to your ISP and
visit this site. Don't argue, just _DO IT_! ;-))
~~~~~~~~~~~~~end~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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NET HUMOR
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FIDONEWS 17-44 Page 15 30 Oct 2000
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QUESTION OF THE WEEK
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By Brenda, R10C
00 12:30p
By: brenda donovan
To: all
Re: opinions and comments
St:
------------------------------------------------------------
Hi all,
Discussions are still going on about how to facilitate the upcoming
Z1C elections and when to have them...
Options and variations thereof being discussed are:
voting method
sysop wide voting
sysop to NC to RC style.
start soonest
EC (most likely Carol since she moves to Japan in May)
no interim Z1C
start after holidays
interim ZC - full responsibilities
interim ZC - just diff processing
Z1_POLITICAL should be heating up soon.
--- GEcho/32 1.20/Pro * Origin: R10 RHUB - TNL Online! - IP/FTP Mail -
San Diego, CA (1:10/3)
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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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. -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- -
| FIDONET-RELATED SITES |
` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- -
Last update: September 16, 2000
FidoNet
Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/
ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
Echolist: http://www.baltimoremd.com/echolist/
Echomail links: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidonet/fidoip.html
SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS)
FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
General: http://www.writebynight.com/fidonet.html
Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
Region 10: http://www.r10.org
http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
Net 203: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8687/net203index.html
Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
Net 2410: http://www.earforce.dyndns.org/net2410/
Region 12: http://sparkys.dyndns.org
Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
Net 275: http://www.homershut.net/~mahoover/net275/
Region 14: http://www.ouijabrd.com/region14
Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
Region 15: <vacant>
Region 16: <vacant>
Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
Net 140: http://www.nwstar.com/~net140
Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
Region 19: http://bise.tzo.com/r19
Net 124: http://www.startext.net/np/net124
http://texoma.net/~flv
Net 130: http://www.startext.net/homes/net130
Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/
Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/zone2 (Z2 nodelists etc.)
Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
http://www.was-ist-fido.de/
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/
FIDONEWS 17-44 Page 17 30 Oct 2000
Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/
Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
? Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
! Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English)
Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5028: http://5028.yaroslavl.ru/
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian)
Net 5074: http://www.z2.n5074.fidonet.net
?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)
Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
Zone 4:
Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
Region 90:
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/
Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
(Chinese)
Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html
a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
address. The email is translated as follows
firstlast@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the idea.
Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a
latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum
time between when the message is received, and when it is
sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward,
defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an
immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately
after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were.
FIDONEWS 17-44 Page 18 30 Oct 2000
v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com
| email address or
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
| | |latency|
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 | Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
12/12 @ Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c
103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c
103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ???
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c
244/2 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1,! | $25.00/mo
246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | 128k | n/c
379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo
396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c
2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3613/2 @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE | 28.8 | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE | 64k |N/C
292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | N/C
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
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382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
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Zone 4
905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
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