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F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 26 26 Jun 2000
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | 1-717-732-6820 1:270/720 |
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| /|oo \ | |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 |
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| | (*) | \ )) | DougM@paonline.com |
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| (_/(_|(____/ | |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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The Fidonet (R)evolution ................................. 1
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2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2
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Region 11 Coordinator Change ............................. 2
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3. COLUMNS .................................................. 3
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Ol'WDB: Some Thoughts, Part I ............................ 3
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4. NET HUMOR ................................................ 5
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Snappy Comebacks ......................................... 5
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Ultimate Man's Chain Letter .............................. 5
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5. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 7
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Cow Express .............................................. 7
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6. INTERNET INFO ............................................ 8
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Fidonet-related sites .................................... 8
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7. FIDONEWS INFO ............................................ 12
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Masthead ................................................. 12
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FIDONEWS 17-26 Page 1 26 Jun 2000
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EDITORIAL
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The Fidonet (R)evolution
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Doug Myers
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This week in the Z1C Echo, David Moufarrege announced the
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appointment of Gary Gilmore as the Region 11 Coordinator, replacing
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Martin Belcke who has resigned for personal reasons. Indeed, this
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issue features an article by Gary, making this announcement and
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going over his plans for the immediate future.
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While Martin's personal reasons for stepping down are undisclosed as
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yet, this editor sincerely hopes that no tragedy has marred his life
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and that the future will find him back in the echoes. Martin was an
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entertaining corrospondant over the years - his contribution to the
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conversation was possibly greater than his administrative
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contributions to Fido.
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Martin Belcke was a long-time coordinator appointed at a time when
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the tradition of elections in Fidonet was not so strong. Though he
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served as Regional Coordinator well, and seemed to enjoy popular
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support from those in his region, he was often criticized because he
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wouldn't take the initiative to hold elections in his own region.
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Gary Gilmore has wisely chosen to reverse this stance and put his
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own appointment on the line in a regional election.
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This editor applauds that decision. Though elections are not
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specified in Fidonet policy, they are clearly desired by the sysops
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who comprise Fidonet. Revolutionary methods to mandate such
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elections have not gathered much support in the past, but the more
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peaceful evolutionary process is slowly but surely bringing Fidonet
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to this ideal. May we call Gary the latest leader in the Fidonet
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(R)evolution?
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FIDONEWS 17-26 Page 2 26 Jun 2000
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ARTICLES
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Region 11 Coordinator Change
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Gary Gilmore, 1:2410/400
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Just to keep everyone up to date (since not everyone stays in touch
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like they should)... Martin Belcke has stepped down as RC11 and
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named me the new RC11. This has been confirmed by our Z1C, and is in
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the current nodelist.
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You'll notice I've placed "(Temp)" in the listing, since I will
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consider myself temporary RC11 until a few things happen. Those
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are:
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1) Get over the heart attack of the sudden change in RC11. <laugh>
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2) Get nodelist processing straightened out, and make a clean, easy
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to operate system in place for me, or to pass along to whomever
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becomes "permanent" RC11. (I've got the target, just need
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someone to pin it on.)
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3) Hold an election for RC11. I will be talking to the Z1C about
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this, and get his feelings (as well as those of the other Zone1
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RCs) as to how I should go about this.
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Either way, there'll be an election, and if I'm picked, so be it.
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If not, well... I have that target over there... <laugh> I'm
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figuring a month (just to be safe) before I'm ready to hold an
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election, since I want to be sure all the NCs of Region11 know first
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that I'm the Temp RC, and second that there will be an election.
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(To that end, I'm attempting to crash netmail to all listed R11 NCs
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as I write this.)
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I'll try to keep you updated as to how things are coming along, but
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please forgive me if I get busy and it slips my tiny little mind.
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:-)
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Cheers!
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--gary
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Temp RC11
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FIDONEWS 17-26 Page 3 26 Jun 2000
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COLUMNS
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Ol'WDB's Column
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wdbonner@pacbell.net
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SOME THOUGHTS
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PART I
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Love is grand; divorce is a hundred grand.
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I am in shape. Round is a shape.
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Time may be a great healer, but it's also a lousy beautician.
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Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the
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ark. Professionals built the Titanic.
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Conscience is what hurts when everything else feels so good.
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Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.
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Stupidity got us into this mess - why can't it get us out?
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Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
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sit there.
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Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both
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be changed regularly and for the same reason.
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An optimist thinks that this is the best possible world. A
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pessimist fears that this is true.
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There is always death and taxes; however, death doesn't get worse
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every year.
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People will accept your ideas much more readily if you tell them
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that Benjamin Franklin said it first.
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It's easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them.
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I don't mind going nowhere as long as it's an interesting path.
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Anything free is worth what you pay for it.
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Indecision is the key to flexibility.
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It hurts to be on the cutting edge.
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If it isn't broke, fix it till it is.
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I don't get even, I get odder.
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In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday.
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**This one's brilliant
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FIDONEWS 17-26 Page 4 26 Jun 2000
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FIDONEWS 17-26 Page 5 26 Jun 2000
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NET HUMOR
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[Editor's Note: It has come to my attention that these comebacks
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are sexist. Unfortunately, it's hard to tell a joke without making
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fun of _something_. So, in the interest of social correctness, the
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female sexist orientation of thes comebacks is balanced by the male
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sexist orientation of the chain letter which follows. Hopefully,
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Fidonews has achieved a "Balance of Sexism" here]
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25 Snappy Comebacks To The Question ...
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"Why aren't you married yet?"
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1. You haven't asked yet.
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2. I was hoping to do something meaningful with my life.
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3. What? And spoil my great sex life?
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4. Nobody would believe me in white.
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5. Because I just love hearing this question.
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6. Just lucky, I guess.
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7. It gives my mother something to live for.
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8. My fiance is awaiting parole.
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9. I'm still hoping for a shot at Miss America.
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10. Do you know how hard it is to get two tickets to Miss Saigon?
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11. I'm waiting until I get to be your age.
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12. It didn't seem worth a blood test.
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13. I already have enough laundry to do, thank you.
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14. Because I think it would take all the spontaneity out of dating.
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15. My co-op board doesn't allow spouses.
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16. I'd have to forfeit my billion dollar trust fund.
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17. They just opened a great singles bar on my block.
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18. I wouldn't want my parents to drop dead from sheer happiness.
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19. I guess it just goes to prove that you can't trust those voodoo
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doll rituals.
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20. What? And lose all the money I've invested in running personal
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ads?
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21. We really want to, but my lover's husband just won't go for it.
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22. I don't want to have to support another person on my paycheck.
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23. Why aren't you thin?
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24. I'm married to my career, although recently we have been
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considering a trial separation.
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25. (Bonus reply ... for single moms) Because having a husband and a
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child would be redundant.
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The Ultimate Man's Chain Letter
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Thanks to Ol'WDB
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This chain letter was started in hopes of bringing relief to other
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tired and discouraged men. Unlike most chain letters, this one does
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not cost anything. Just send a copy of this letter to five of your
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FIDONEWS 17-26 Page 6 26 Jun 2000
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friends who are equally tired and discontented. Then bundle up your
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wife or girlfriend and send her to the man whose name appears at the
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top of the list, and add your name to the bottom of the list.
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When your turn comes, you will receive 15,625 women. One of them is
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bound to be better than the one you already have.
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At the writing of this letter, a friend of mine had already received
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184 women, of whom 4 were worth keeping.
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REMEMBER this chain brings luck. One man's pit bull died, and the
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next day he received a Playboy swimsuit model.
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An unmarried Jewish man living with his widowed mother was able to
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choose between a Hooters waitress and a Hollywood supermodel.
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You can be lucky too, but DO NOT BREAK THE CHAIN! One man broke the
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chain, and got his own wife back again.
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FIDONEWS 17-26 Page 7 26 Jun 2000
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COMIX IN ASCII
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@ @
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@@@ @
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@@ @
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Pffii @@@@ @@
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___________D @@@@@@
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|________ | _______
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(__) | / \ /
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( oo /~| | __ \ /
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/\_|// | | / \ | |
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_/____/__| | | | | |
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| ___/-----------------_| (__)
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| / \ \ \ `(oo)
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| / \ | | |\/
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| | O | / / __ /
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|----| |-----------/ \-\\\ (__)
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\ / | o | \\\ _( )_
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________\___/____________\__/____\\\_____________/_/__\_\____
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Cow Express Suicidal Cow
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FIDONEWS 17-26 Page 8 26 Jun 2000
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INTERNET INFO
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! = New entries this week
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? = not responding
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?? = unknown content, doesn't look like fidonet
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. -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- .
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| FIDONET-RELATED SITES |
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` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- '
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Last update: June 10, 2000
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FidoNet
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Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org
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FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
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ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/
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ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
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Echolist: http://www.baltimoremd.com/echolist/
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Echomail links: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidonet/fidoip.html
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SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS)
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FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
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General: http://www.writebynight.com/fidonet.html
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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
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Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
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http://www.tnl-online.com/andy/rgn10.htm
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Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
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Net 203: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8687/net203index.html
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Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
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Net 2410: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/net2410/
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Region 12: http://sparkys.dyndns.org
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Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
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Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
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Net 275: http://www.homershut.net/~mahoover/net275/
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Region 14: http://www.ouijabrd.com/region14
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Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
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Region 15: <vacant>
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Region 16: <vacant>
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Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
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Net 140: http://www.nwstar.com/~net140
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Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
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Region 19: http://bise.tzo.com/r19
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Net 124: http://www.startext.net/np/net124
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http://texoma.net/~flv
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Net 130: http://www.startext.net/homes/net130
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Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/
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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
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ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/zone2 (Z2 nodelists etc.)
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Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
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Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
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Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
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FIDONEWS 17-26 Page 9 26 Jun 2000
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http://www.was-ist-fido.de/
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Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
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Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/
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Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
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REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
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Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
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http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/
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Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
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? Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
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Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
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REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
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Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
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Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
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Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
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Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
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! Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English)
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Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
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Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5028: http://5028.yaroslavl.ru/
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Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
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Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian)
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?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)
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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
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Zone 4:
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Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
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Region 90:
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Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/
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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
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Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
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(Chinese)
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
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See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html
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a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
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address. The email is translated as follows
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firstlast@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
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appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
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also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
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would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the idea.
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Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a
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latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum
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time between when the message is received, and when it is
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sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward,
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defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an
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immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately
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FIDONEWS 17-26 Page 10 26 Jun 2000
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after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were.
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v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com
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| email address or
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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
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-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
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Zone 1 | | | |
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10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
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10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
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12/12 @ Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
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13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
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103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c
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103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
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103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c
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103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
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105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
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105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
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106/1 @ Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | 128k | n/c
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106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
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107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
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140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
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167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
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211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c
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244/2 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1,! | $25.00/mo
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246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
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271/140 @ Tom Barstow | UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
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342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
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395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | 128k | n/c
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396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo
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396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
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2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
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2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c
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2624/306 @ David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
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3613/2 @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE | 28.8 | n/c
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3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
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3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
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3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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Zone 2 |
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20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
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203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
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221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
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236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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284/800 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
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292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE | 64k |N/C
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292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | N/C
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292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
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335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
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382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
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465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
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469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
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480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
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2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
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2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
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2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
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5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
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633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
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640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
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774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
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Zone 4
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905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
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902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
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* NFS = Linux Networking
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