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F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 49 06 Dec 1999
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | 1-717-732-6820 1:270/720 |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 |
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| | (*) | \ )) | DougM@paonline.com |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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Santa Cows /::::::\ (/_\) / \
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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Goodbye, George .......................................... 1
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2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 3
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FTSC Charter ............................................. 3
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3. ARTICLES ................................................. 6
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Echomail Terrorism ....................................... 6
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Latency of Echomail, and why we need ..................... 6
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Ex-Soviet Fido Is Alive And Kicking ...................... 7
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4. COLUMNS .................................................. 8
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Ol'WDB: Just a Christmas Thought ......................... 8
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Fidonet-related sites .................................... 10
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5. NET HUMOR ................................................ 14
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Race Horses .............................................. 14
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6. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 15
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Moory Cowristmas! ........................................ 15
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7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 16
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Masthead ................................................. 16
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FIDONEWS 16-49 Page 1 6 Dec 1999
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EDITORIAL
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Goodbye, George
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Doug Myers
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You don't have to hit me over the head with a two by four! It only
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takes me a week or so to finally get the message!
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So earlier this week I got netmail from George Peace telling me that
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he could no longer provide the dial-up connection for file and echo
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connections. At first it didn't occur to me that I had a problem,
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as I was doing the bulk of my traffic with my NC - I transferred
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FIDONEWS and another file area, BFDS, directly with George to get
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them on the Filebone as rapidly and reliably as possible, but picked
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up all the file areas I don't source through my NC. Similiarly with
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echomail. In fact, I'd never done echomail with George until just
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recently, when he allowed me a direct connection to his area manager
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as a favor so I could resolve a problem getting regional echoes.
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But then it occurred to me that my NC was also using George's
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dial-up modem to get the net feed, so I wrote George back and asked
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if my NC was also affected. It was starting to occur to me that I
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might have to adjust to the situation. That same day, I wrote a
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note in the FIDONEWS echo letting folks know that I'd need to change
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where I introduce FIDONEWS into the Filebone, as George was shutting
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down his dial up line.
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Apparantly, I touched off a spat of rumors which reached back to
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George: He wrote back to me the next day that John and I would be
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affected, but only the two of us... and wanted to know if I knew
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anything about the rumors that he was shutting down. <sigh> I sent
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him a copy of what I'd written in the Fidonews echo and apologized
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if it touched off any rumors.
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Then the rumors started hitting me. At first the folks in the
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FIDONEWS echo asked me if George was shutting down (or expressed
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disbelief that he was doing so), so I spent my time "revealing" to
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them that George's changes were only going to affect me and my NC.
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Then folks started telling me I was wrong, and that he was actually
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shutting down all Fido traffic.
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"Mon," I thought, "these rumors are really getting out of control!"
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I'm not sure when I first found out that they weren't rumors. John
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Souvestre patiently explained things to me in netmail, including a
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copy of a message George had posted... George really was leaving
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Fido. Before I saw John's message, though, David Moufarrege called
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me to see how FIDONEWS would be distributed once George shut down...
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and I was telling him that George wasn't really shutting down, that
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it was just a rumor. But somewhere in the conversation, I could
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feel the two by four looming in the background, and figured I'd
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better shut up so as not to invite it...
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Durn... I didn't want to see George Peace go. He's done nothing but
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FIDONEWS 16-49 Page 2 6 Dec 1999
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good for me since I've known him. I especially didn't want to give
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him any grief...
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George, may you find every happiness in your time after Fido.
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You've left some good people behind, and I'm confident they'll pick
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up any slack which is felt from your system missing. But you'll be
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missed...
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FIDONEWS 16-49 Page 3 6 Dec 1999
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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from David Hallford, 1:208/103
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Hi Douglas!
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In a previous editorial you mentioned something about the FTSC.
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Here is a copy of FTA-1001.002 which is the Charter for the FTSC.
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It's pretty much plain language, but if you have any questions
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please feel free to ask. I may not have an answer <g>, but I can ask
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the other Standing Members.
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I have to admit that the list of members sometimes makes me feel
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inadequate. Folks like Mats Wallin, Joaquim Homrighausen, and now
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Harald Harms and CHarles Cruden make me wonder what I am doing on
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that list.
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The conversation level, however, is pretty decent and I have
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learned a lot in my 1st year on the committee.
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with warm regards,
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Dave
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FTSC FIDONET TECHNICAL STANDARDS COMMITTEE
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Publication: FTA-1000
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Revision: 2
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Title: FTSC Charter
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Author: Administrator
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Revision Date: 29 December 1997
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Expiry Date: Permanent Document
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Contents:
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1. Mission
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2. Structure
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3. Access
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1. Mission
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The Fidonet Technical Standards Committee (FTSC) is responsible
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for providing a thorough technical definition of FidoNet and its
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protocols sufficient to maintain it as a compatible electronic
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mail system, specifically by:
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1. Documenting current practice in technical standards.
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2. Encouraging new technologies in Fidonet software development.
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3. Reassessing and revising FTS documents regularly.
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4. Being publicly accessible to Fidonet sysops.
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5. Distributing Technical Standards and Proposals.
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6. Providing FTS document interpretations on software compatibility.
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FIDONEWS 16-49 Page 4 6 Dec 1999
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The FTSC shall maintain a publication which documents only the
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minimum acceptable protocol for a Fidonet node to receive mail as
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referred to in the current FidoNet Policy Document (Policy 4.07 at
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this writing) The FTSC shall not take upon itself any right to
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increase or decrease this requirement without express direction to
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do so from the International Coordinator (IC).
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2. Structure
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2.1 Organization
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1. All members are Fidonet nodes in good standing.
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2. Membership consists of no less than 7 and no more than 30.
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3. Standing members are appointed Fidonet-wide as detailed in
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FTA-1001 (FTSC Operations).
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4. An Administrator is selected by the FTSC standing members.
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5. Working Group Leaders are appointed by the Administrator.
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6. A freely-available list of members and Working Groups is
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maintained.
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2.2 FTSC Administrator
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Appointed for a specific term, and responsible for coordinating
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the activities of the Working Groups and for the smooth operation
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of the FTSC as detailed in FTA-1001 (FTSC Operations).
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2.3 Standing Members
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Appointed for a specific term to advise and assist the
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Administrator in directing the technical focus of the FTSC.
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2.4 Working Groups
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Formed to develop and update standards. Both standing and
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short-term Working Groups may be formed.
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2.5 Working Group Leader
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Responsible for forming an assigned Working Group and ensuring
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that its work is completed in a timely manner. Working Groups, and
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their assigned areas of expertise are detailed in FTA-1001 (FTSC
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Operations).
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3. Access
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FIDONEWS 16-49 Page 5 6 Dec 1999
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A file distribution echo, and public and private echomail
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conferences are maintained, along with conferences for the various
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Working Groups, as detailed in FTA-1001 (FTSC Operations).
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A. History
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Rev.1, 19971009: First non-draft release. Author Adrian Walker.
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Rev.2, 19971229: Reformatted slightly. Author changed to
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Administrator. Revision number added.
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FIDONEWS 16-49 Page 6 6 Dec 1999
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ARTICLES
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ECHOMAIL TERRORISM
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by David Hallford 1:208/103
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There is a new breed of terrorist here in Fidonet - the
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EchoMail Terrorist. You probably know some of them. You know, the
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ones who only write in echomail and will never respond to your
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netmail. Ever wonder why? They're cowards. What they write in
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echomail is not covered by P4 at least here in Zone 1 (and the ZC
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who made that ruling is now the IC so it is logical to assume that
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it covers all of Fidonet).
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Most of us are in a quandry about what to do with these folks.
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Some (like me) choose to no longer participate in echomail. Some
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choose to leave Fidonet. Many go to either the Internet or to other
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FTN networks.
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Through our inaction these terrorists are in fact now running
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Fidonet. What can we do? Force the issue! If a moderator allows
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these actions in their echo - start another echo and ban the
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terrorist from it on day one! Before the "free speech' people get up
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in arms - these terrorists have no rights in an echo except those
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granted by the moderator so it is the moderators right to "refuse
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service". If these terrorists can't play nice then don't let them on
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the playground.
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It really is that simple - let the old echos die a natural
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death and refuse to allow terrorists in the new echos.
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Maybe then they can overcome their aversion to netmail and
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'step up to the plate' like everyone else instead of cowardly hiding
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in the echos.
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Latency of Echomail, and why we need
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* By Joe Jared, 1:103/301 joejared@osirusoft.com
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A couple weeks ago, I started campaigning heavily to improve
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thruput on the fidonet backbone. With George Peace leaving
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fidonet, latency will be a major issue, as nets find that
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their feeds for echomail have dried out. It also means that
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many of us at different levels of the backbone will have
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additional work to do, and unfortunately, that latency will
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increase. Currently, many of the FTP server hubs have
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scheduled events that occur once an hour, or once every 1/2
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hour. Depending on your position, this can translate to as
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much as an hour for each hop along the backbone, and
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ultimately producing lags of a day or more. Until this
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problem is minimized at the top level hubs, we will
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experience slower traffic, which also translates to less
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messages. If it's not addressed promptly we will also see a
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loss of nodes, nets and possibly be watching one of the
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single worst disasters for fidonet, as people scramble to
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get their feed switched. Finding a new feed for echomail
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isn't difficult, but finding one that is responsive to your
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FIDONEWS 16-49 Page 7 6 Dec 1999
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needs may be. For this reason, I have added yet another
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field to the list I have been maintaining, which will
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reflect also the responsiveness of the hub. Anyone may be
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added to this list just by asking, regardless of their
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affiliations. For purpose of definition, Latency is defined
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as the time in minutes that it takes for incomming mail to
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be processed AND enroute to the next level. If this process
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occurs immediately after the mail is received, then latency
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is 0. For a scheduled event, the time between events is what
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I'm looking for.
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Ex-Soviet Fido Is Alive And Kicking
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Modern netters think now of a Fido as of a dying net. The amount of
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nodes decreases, echos either dry out or became the part of a
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Usenet, Internet has kicked Fido out. Perhaps that is true in Zone1.
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Why shall a new user get a point and use some obsolete FTN soft if
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he can get cheap unlimited Internet access?
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But here, in the countries of the former Soviet Union (the so-called
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"Zone 7") the situation is vice versa. The number of nodes
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increases, echomail traffic is fat, you can often meet a person, who
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says "Ha, I-net? I don't need it actually. I'm a Fido point and
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that's enough for me". Fido is even small for some, so they create
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dozens of local FTNs - "X-net", "DoomNet", "21-Century Net", etc...
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What causes such a great development?
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Initially it is high internet prices. Full unlimited access costs
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something about $70 per month. And that's very expensive here. Why
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pay so much for an account if you can get a point number for some
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bottles of beer. (Though according to the policy, Fido membership is
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free, it's a common tradition here to buy some beers to your node
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when you are getting a number.) So a fresh point can pick out any
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echo he want - Region 2:50 backbone will satisfy all tastes. You can
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have the most exotic hobby and be sure that there certainly is a
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corresponding echo.
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The problem is that "Zone 7" is mostly Russian-languge Fido. So
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international echos are not very popular. For example, Fidonews are
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read by a small quantity of nodes. That needs to be solved somehow -
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we must feel ourselves really a part of an Earthwide friends
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network.
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Andrei Besedin from Kyiv, Ukraine.
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Andrei_Besedin@p308.f566.n463.z2.fidonet.org
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FIDONEWS 16-49 Page 8 6 Dec 1999
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COLUMNS
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Just a Christmas Thought...
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'TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS,
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HE LIVED ALL ALONE,
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IN A ONE BEDROOM HOUSE MADE OF
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PLASTER AND STONE.
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I HAD COME DOWN THE CHIMNEY
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WITH PRESENTS TO GIVE,
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AND TO SEE JUST WHO
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IN THIS HOME DID LIVE.
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I LOOKED ALL ABOUT,
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A STRANGE SIGHT I DID SEE,
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NO TINSEL, NO PRESENTS,
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NOT EVEN A TREE.
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NO STOCKING BY MANTLE,
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JUST BOOTS FILLED WITH SAND,
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ON THE WALL HUNG PICTURES
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OF FAR DISTANT LANDS.
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WITH MEDALS AND BADGES,
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AWARDS OF ALL KINDS,
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A SOBER THOUGHT
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CAME THROUGH MY MIND.
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FOR THIS HOUSE WAS DIFFERENT,
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IT WAS DARK AND DREARY,
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I FOUND THE HOME OF A SOLDIER,
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ONCE I COULD SEE CLEARLY.
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THE SOLDIER LAY SLEEPING,
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SILENT, ALONE,
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CURLED UP ON THE FLOOR
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IN THIS ONE BEDROOM HOME.
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THE FACE WAS SO GENTLE,
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THE ROOM IN SUCH DISORDER,
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NOT HOW I PICTURED
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A UNITED STATES SOLDIER.
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WAS THIS THE HERO OF WHOM I'D JUST READ?
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CURLED UP ON A PONCHO, THE FLOOR FOR A BED?
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I REALIZED THE FAMILIES
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THAT I SAW THIS NIGHT,
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OWED THEIR LIVES TO THESE SOLDIERS
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WHO WERE WILLING TO FIGHT.
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SOON ROUND THE WORLD,
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THE CHILDREN WOULD PLAY,
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FIDONEWS 16-49 Page 9 6 Dec 1999
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AND GROWNUPS WOULD CELEBRATE
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A BRIGHT CHRISTMAS DAY.
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THEY ALL ENJOYED FREEDOM
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EACH MONTH OF THE YEAR,
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BECAUSE OF THE SOLDIERS,
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LIKE THE ONE LYING HERE.
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I COULDN'T HELP WONDER
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HOW MANY LAY ALONE,
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ON A COLD CHRISTMAS EVE
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IN A LAND FAR FROM HOME.
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THE VERY THOUGHT
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BROUGHT A TEAR TO MY EYE,
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I DROPPED TO MY KNEES
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AND STARTED TO CRY.
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THE SOLDIER AWAKENED
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AND I HEARD A ROUGH VOICE,
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"SANTA DON'T CRY,
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THIS LIFE IS MY CHOICE;
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I FIGHT FOR FREEDOM,
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I DON'T ASK FOR MORE,
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MY LIFE IS MY GOD,
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MY COUNTRY, MY CORPS."
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THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER
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AND DRIFTED TO SLEEP,
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I COULDN'T CONTROL IT,
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I CONTINUED TO WEEP.
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I KEPT WATCH FOR HOURS,
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SO SILENT AND STILL
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AND WE BOTH SHIVERED
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FROM THE COLD NIGHT'S CHILL.
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I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE
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ON THAT COLD, DARK, NIGHT,
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THIS GUARDIAN OF HONOR
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SO WILLING TO FIGHT.
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THEN THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER,
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WITH A VOICE SOFT AND PURE,
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WHISPERED, "CARRY ON SANTA,
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IT'S CHRISTMAS DAY, ALL IS SECURE."
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ONE LOOK AT MY WATCH,
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AND I KNEW HE WAS RIGHT.
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"MERRY CHRISTMAS MY FRIEND,
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AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT."
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This poem was written by a Marine stationed in Okinawa Japan. The
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following is his request. I think it is reasonable.....
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FIDONEWS 16-49 Page 10 6 Dec 1999
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PLEASE.
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Would you do me the kind favor of sending this to as many people as
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you can? Christmas will be coming soon and some credit is due to our
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U.S. service men and women for our being able to celebrate these
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festivities.
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Let's try in this small way to pay a tiny bit of what we owe. Make
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people stop and think of our heroes, living and dead, who sacrificed
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themselves for us. Please, do your small part to plant this small
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seed.
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Passed along by: Ol'WDB
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! = New entries this week
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? = not responding
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?? = unknown content, doesn't look like fidonet
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FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
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ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/
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ftp://sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
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SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS)
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FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
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General: http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
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List server: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion
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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
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Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
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http://www.tnl-online.com/andy/rgn10.htm
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Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
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Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
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Net 2410: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/net2410/
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Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
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Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
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Region 14:
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Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
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Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
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Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
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Region 19: http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19
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Net 124: http://www.startext.net/np/net124
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http://texoma.net/~flv
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Net 130: http://www.startext.net/homes/net130
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Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/
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Zone 1 Elist http://members.xoom.com/echolist/
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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
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Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
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Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
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Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
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Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
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Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/
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Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
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REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
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Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
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Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
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? Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
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Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
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REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
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Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
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Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
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Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
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Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
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Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
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Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
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Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian)
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?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)
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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
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Zone 4:
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Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
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Region 90:
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Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/
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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
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Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
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(Chinese)
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
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a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email address.
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The email is translated as follows firstlast@osirusoft.com will
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automatically route to the appropriate individual's email. Anyone
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in this list will also receive routed notice of this feature. In my
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case, it would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the
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idea.
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Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a latency
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field to each node, which is defined as the time between when the
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message is received, and when it is sent on to other nodes, or
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available to be sent onward, defined in minutes. A latency of !
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implies that there is an immediate response, and an attempt to
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deliver immediately after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as
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it were.
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FIDONEWS 16-49 Page 12 6 Dec 1999
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v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com
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| email address or
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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
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| | |latency|
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-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
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Zone 1 | | | |
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10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | T1?,30| $??/$10
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12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
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13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
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103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL | n/c
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103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP | aDSL,!| n/c
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103/328 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c
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105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
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105/72 @ Larry James | FTP | aDSL | $5/$15 mo.
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106/1 @ Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | DS-3,5| $5/$15 mo
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106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL | n/c
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140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP | T3,60 | $5/$16
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167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
|
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211/417 @ Korombos | BinkD,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
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271/140 @ Tom Barstow | UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
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342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
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345/0 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
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396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $10/mo
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396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
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2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
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2424/101 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1 | $25.00/mo
|
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2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
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3613/2 @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE | 28.8 | n/c
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2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+ | n/c
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2624/306 @ D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
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3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
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3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
|
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3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
|
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3803/1 @ Ben Ritchey | UUE | 56k | n/c
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Zone 2 |
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20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
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31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
|
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203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
|
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221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
|
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236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
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246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
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284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
|
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292/626 | Filip Ruymen | Binkp, UUE | 128K+ | n/c
|
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292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
|
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301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
|
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332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
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335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
|
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335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
|
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344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
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346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
|
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382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
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406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
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406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
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|
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423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
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464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
|
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465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
|
||
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
|
||
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
|
||
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
|
||
2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
|
||
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
|
||
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
|
||
--------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
Zone 3
|
||
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
|
||
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
|
||
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
|
||
|
||
--------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
Zone 4
|
||
905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
|
||
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
|
||
|
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--
|
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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
|
||
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
|
||
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
|
||
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
|
||
|
||
----------------------------------------------
|
||
Fidonet oriented news servers
|
||
|
||
news.osirusoft.com
|
||
news.tardis.net
|
||
|
||
Fidonet oriented chat rooms.
|
||
|
||
room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
|
||
irc.isonline.com
|
||
irc.killaz-r-us.com
|
||
irc.korombos.org
|
||
|
||
|
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----------------------------------------------
|
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|
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Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
|
||
Joe Jared, 1:103/301, joejared@osirusoft.com, and
|
||
complaints to jarhead@osirusoft.com .
|
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|
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|
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FIDONEWS 16-49 Page 14 6 Dec 1999
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NET HUMOR
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Race Horses
|
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Thanks to Roy Reed
|
||
rcreedv@juno.com
|
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|
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|
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Charlie was a regular visitor at the racetrack. One afternoon he
|
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noticed an unusual site. Right before the first race, a Catholic
|
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Priest visited one of the horses in the stable area and gave it a
|
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blessing. Charlie watched the horse race very carefully, and sure
|
||
enough, the blessed horse came in first!
|
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|
||
Charlie followed the Priest before the next race. Again, the Priest
|
||
went to the stables and blessed another horse. Charlie quickly put
|
||
two dollars on that horse and won close to fifty bucks!
|
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|
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The Priest kept blessing horses and Charlie kept betting on them and
|
||
they won!
|
||
|
||
The last race of the day was the biggest and Charlie saw the Priest
|
||
with that horse, also! He quickly went to his bank and withdrew his
|
||
life's savings of $20,000, went back to the racetrack and put it
|
||
all on that horse!
|
||
|
||
He watched the race in certain anticipation of leaving a
|
||
millionaire! The horse was last to cross the line and Charlie was
|
||
dead broke!
|
||
|
||
He couldn't believe what happened so he went looking for the Priest.
|
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He found the man and asked "What happened to that last horse you
|
||
blessed? Because your blessing didn't work, I've lost all of my
|
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money!"
|
||
|
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The Priest said, "That's the trouble with you Protestants, you can't
|
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tell the difference between a blessing and the Last Rites!"
|
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