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F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 45 08 Nov 1999
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | 1-717-732-6820 1:270/720 |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 |
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| | (*) | \ )) | DougM@paonline.com |
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| (_/(_|(____/ | |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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Table of Contents
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1. ARTICLES ................................................. 1
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R12 Election: the Runaround .............................. 1
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2. COLUMNS .................................................. 5
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Fidonet-related sites .................................... 5
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Ol'WDB: Scientific Thinking .............................. 8
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3. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 10
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Cow-Operation ............................................ 10
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4. NOTICES .................................................. 11
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Future History ........................................... 11
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5. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 12
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Masthead ................................................. 12
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FIDONEWS 16-45 Page 1 8 Nov 1999
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ARTICLES
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Here's a story, sad but true
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From Lesley-Dee through me to you
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About an RC she once knew
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And his tantrums when he was through
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Chorus: Stay away from the Runaround, Mike
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Lesley-Dee Dylan @1:250/201
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as told to Doug Myers
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This strange story is, in part, the result of your editor trying to
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get someone from Region 12 to post news on the election there.
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<Sigh> Everyone was busy trying to get routed netmail working, and
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most considered that exercise to have more intrinsic value than
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trying to keep a demanding Snooze editor silent.
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However, Leslie-Dee did respond, though her responses got lost in
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routed netmail (okay, so maybe they had a point about priorities)!
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Earlier this week, Dee crashed me packets of the goings on in her
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regional echo where the election was being (kinda) conducted. Her
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effort was unsuccessful, though, in that I couldn't absorb the over
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1 Meg of messages in time to write a comprehensive story. Just as
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we went to press it occurred to me, however, that Dee had summarized
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the latter part of the election in a post to me telling me why she
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couldn't write the story.
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So the poem at the beginning is to represent the fact that this is
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not a conventional article... more like poetry in motion. And the
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"as told to..." in the credits is to represent the fact that I
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absolutely did not even ask Dee if I could post her netmail, let
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alone ascribe the story to her. You'd think I'd learn to stop
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taking liberties with the Chief Super-Bitch, but the rest of the
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story is in her words, though extracted from two different netmail
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messages and edited.
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It begins with Shawn O'Connor posting a test message, responded to
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by Mike O'Connor, followed by Shawn O'Connor's announcement of the
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calling of the election. When Shawn is called on it, since he
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didn't have the authority to call an election, Mike O'Connor (then
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RC) came in and announced that he had been away on business and had
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to ask Shawn to make the post on his behalf. But he did have time
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to respond to the test post, just before Shawn posted the
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announcement, and it would have taken only a moment to say - Shawn
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will be posting the election information with my authority.
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The message base continues on through a comedy of errors, and flames
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and attacks, through four ballots, until Mike declares Darrell
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Salter the winner, in a rather farcical debacle.
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FIDONEWS 16-45 Page 2 8 Nov 1999
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There are some real gems in there - look in particular for Steve
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Fredette's campaign poetry - a take off on HMS Pinafore.
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Please make an effort to get something from this to put into the
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Snooze. I am finally starting to recover a bit from this flu, but
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I'm still pretty sick, and I have a lot of other stuff to catch up
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on. This provides a perfect example of spontaneous human combustion
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of an elflord RC. It's absolutely classic.
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We were heading into yet another runoff, with an absolute tie
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between Darrell Salter and Steve Fredette, when Steve Fredette
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posted an hilarious message, from the alias of Mike O'Connor Jr.:
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From: Mike O'Connor Jr. Oct-30-99 11:53:08
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To: All Oct-30-99 15:16:34
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Subj: Runoff election
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Dad phoned me from the rest home earlier today and asked if I would
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take over the job of returning officer for the election. He's
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having a hip replaced and can't spare the time right now. Don't get
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into a panic now, folks. I don't have nearly as much trouble with
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counting as Uncle Shawn did.
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The 923rd runoff begins on July 14, 2017 at 9:00pm and ends Friday,
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July 21, 2017 at 9:00pm.
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Results to date:
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Darrell Salter 27
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Steve Fredette 27
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17 votes invalidated due to sysops having passed away.
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From: Mike O'Connor Nov-03-99 20:58:32
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To: All Nov-04-99 11:14:56
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Subj: My vote
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Steve just screwed himself.
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I withdraw my vote tallied under the password KillKenny.
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It's truly a sad state of affairs when mail forgery is considered
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funny.
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You are all pathetic.
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Bye.
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From: Mike O'Connor Nov-03-99 21:46:44
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To: Darrell Salter Nov-04-99 11:14:56
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Subj: Cheers
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My condolences on your winning of the R12 election. A package is on
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FIDONEWS 16-45 Page 3 8 Nov 1999
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it's way to your address.
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You've got till Thursday Nov 11 to set things up with the ZC.
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Cheers
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Mike
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From: Steve Fredette Nov-04-99 00:56:36
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To: All Nov-04-99 11:14:20
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Subj: Show of hands
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All right people, how many of you actually thought my "Mike O'Connor
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Jr" post was funny?
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[pausing to count show of hands]
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Twelve. Ok, how many 'got' the joke, but thought it was juvenile,
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and not particularly amusing?
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[counting]
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Seventeen. (Hmmm... gotta try harder next time.) Ok, how many
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didn't get the joke at all, and actually believe that the real Mike
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O'Connor Jr (if there is one) actually teleported himself 18 years
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into the future, moved to Ottawa and posted a message from my
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system, and also doesn't know the difference between an alias and a
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forgery?
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[counting]
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One.
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...Steve
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From: Mike O'Connor Jr. Nov-04-99 01:12:48
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To: Mike O'Connor Nov-04-99 11:14:20
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Subj: My vote
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MO> You are all pathetic.
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Oh, fuck off, Dad. Grab a sense of humour. Drink your geritol and
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shut up. Or it's off to the pasture with you.
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Oh, by the way... the Directeur General des Elections du Quebec
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called again asking about you & uncle Shawn. The polls indicate
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that the upcoming 17th sovereignty referendum will be very close,
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and they need your 'special skills' again this year.
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...Your loving son
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From: Steve Fredette Nov-04-99 11:42:50
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To: All Nov-04-99 23:11:44
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Subj: Show of hands
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FIDONEWS 16-45 Page 4 8 Nov 1999
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* Forwarded (from: STEVE) by Steve Fredette using timEd 1.10.
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* Originally from Mike O'Connor (1:167/166)
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to Steve Fredette (1:163/551).
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* Original dated: Thu Nov 04, 09:00
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* Replying to a message originally in area REG12
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SF> Twelve. Ok, how many 'got' the joke, but thought it
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SF> was juvenile, and not particularly amusing?
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Insulting a supporter is just plain stupid.
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BTW. You used my real name. I have the same name as my DAD.
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Fuckin idiot.
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SF> [counting]
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SF> real Mike O'Connor Jr (if there is one) actually
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That's me you fucken moron.
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Don't bother to reply. I've severed all links.
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Mike
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So the result of our fourth ballot in the R12C election was 14 for
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Darrell Salter, and 14 for Steve Fredette, but at the last moment,
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Mike O'Connor withdrew his own vote for Steve, making it 13 for
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Steve, and declared Salter the winner.
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I told you the Reg12 election would be worth covering. :-)
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FIDONEWS 16-45 Page 5 8 Nov 1999
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The following is an actual question given on a University of
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Washington chemistry mid-term. The answer was so "profound" that
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the professor shared it with colleagues, which is why we now have
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the pleasure of enjoying it.
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Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic
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(absorbs heat)?
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Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's
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Law, (gas cools when it expands and heats up when it is compressed)
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or some variant.
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One student, however, wrote the following:
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"First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing over time.
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So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and
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the rate they are leaving. I think we can safely assume that once a
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soul gets to Hell, it will not leave; therefore, no souls are
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leaving.
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As for how many souls are entering Hell, lets look at the different
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religions of the world. Some of these religions state that if you
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are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since
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there are more than one of these religions and since people do not
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belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go
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to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the
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number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially.
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Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because
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Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in
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Hell to stay constant, the volume of Hell has to expand as souls are
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added. This allows for two possibilities:
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1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which
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souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will
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increase until all Hell breaks loose.
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2. Of course, if Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the
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increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will
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drop until Hell freezes over.
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So is it #1 or #2? If we accept the postulate given to me by Ms.
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Teresa Banyan during my freshman year, "...that it will be a cold
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day in Hell before I go out with you." -- and take into account the
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fact that I still have not succeeded in winning Ms. Banyan's
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affections, then, #2 cannot be true, and thus I am certain Hell is
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exothermic and will not freeze."
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The student received the only "A" on the exam.
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(author unknown)
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