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F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 42 18 Oct 1999
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | 1-717-732-6820 1:270/720 |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 |
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| | (*) | \ )) | DougM@paonline.com |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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Dr. Thom and Mr... hide? ................................. 1
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2. NET HUMOR ................................................ 5
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Seat of Power ............................................ 5
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3. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 6
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Trick or Treat Cows ...................................... 6
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4. NOTICES .................................................. 7
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Future History ........................................... 7
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5. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 8
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Fidonet-related sites .................................... 8
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs ................................ 9
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6. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 12
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Masthead ................................................. 12
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FIDONEWS 16-42 Page 1 18 Oct 1999
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EDITORIAL
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Dr. Thom and Mr... hide?
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Prologue:
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Echo Holders in the Village of Fido have long relied on the
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machinery of Dr. Thom's Laboratory to protect their tenuous
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holdings. But the Holders have long been warned that vigilance is a
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necessary price for this protection, for certain Raiders have
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studied the workings of Dr. Thom's machinery, and know when an echo
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lies unwatched. Could the whisperings of the Elder Echo Holders
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be true... that one of the newer raiders, Mr. Tom, has gone into
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hiding rather than face the Elders who have discovered that Mr. Tom
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is the evil Alter Ego of Dr. Thom?
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Cast of Characters:
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Thom LaCosta - Thom is the operator of "The Other Robot," which
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maintains a data base of echo tags, echo moderators, and echo rules
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as used in Zone 1. Thom is also nodelisted as Echolist @ 1:1/21 in
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recognition that his echolist is considered definitive (i.e. a
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moderator listed in his echolist is considered official despite
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any claims to the contrary). Thom received this administrative node
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number primarily because he had the only operating echolist at the
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time that Adrian Walker dropped his efforts. Thom currently
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moderates 35 echoes himself, according to Elist 109.
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Tom Knowles - Tom is a user on Thom LaCosta's BBS who began
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moderating about 9 months ago. In the echo MODERATOR, he has become
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a controversial figure, known mostly for his authoritarian style of
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moderation. He invites critics of his moderation to leave the echo
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and maintains that echo participants have no say in the tone he sets
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for the echo. Tom appears to be in hiding right now as he is
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accused of being, in reality, Thom LaCosta. Tom is currently listed
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as moderator for seven echoes.
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Ruth Argust - Ruth is a famous Super-Bitch, best known for moving
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her net from Region 10 to Region 12 when Bob Kohl threatened to
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dissolve her net. Ruth has noted that Tom seems to have unusual
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access to Thom's equipment, including special access to the elist
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robot and access to Timed, a sysop editor which only operates
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locally on a BBS. Ruth draws her evidence from the very posts of
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Tom Knowles in the MODERATOR conference, so fabrication is out of
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the question, and maintains that the most likely explanation is that
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Tom Knowles and Thom LaCosta are one and the same. Neither Thom nor
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Tom have addressed this accusation to date. Ruth moderates nine
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echoes on Fidonet.
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Bobby Queen - Bobby has never met an echo he doesn't like, as
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evidenced by the fact that he is currently listed as moderator for
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133 echoes. Bobby operates primarily by searching the echolist for
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echoes about to expire, either because the moderator forgot or is no
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FIDONEWS 16-42 Page 2 18 Oct 1999
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longer active. He acquires the echoes by emailing a moderator
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update immediately after the echo expires, thereby causing the robot
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to accept his update as a new listing. Bobby was surprised that Tom
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Knowles was able to elist some of the echoes he was after, and notes
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that this would be possible if Thom LaCosta made the changes before
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the expired listings were available to the public.
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Bob Moravsik - Bob has nothing to do with what's going on here, but
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I thought I'd give him honorable mention because his reputation as
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an "echo raider" exceeds Bobby's. Bob, however, only has 20 echoes
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listed... he's just managed to raise more hell with what he has :)
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The Story:
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The history of Tom Knowles actually comes in two parts. First, his
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echo acquisitions as detailed by Bobby Queen recently in a public
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post:
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Elist902 Tom Knowles first appeared and elisted the following
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echos... BGFAX
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ECHOPOL
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MODERATOR
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I had been querying the robot that month and all 3 were in my list of
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ones to update.
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Then he took a break because he might have thought that someone might
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figure out what was going on. Then he reappeared...
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Elist907 Tom Knowles reappeared and elisted the following
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echos... REC
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ZEC
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Again I had been querying the robot and those 2 were on my list also.
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:)
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Elist909 He reappeared and this time elisted the following 3
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echos... FIDONET
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JUNO
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Z1_BACKBONE
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Again all 3 were on my queries that month and all 3 were updated on
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the 1st. That is one thing about Tom Knowles that you will notice.
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Also that month his updates showed up funny on the eladd.txt in that
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months packet. :)
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Elist910 or as he put it out elist109 He again reappeared and elisted
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the echo... WORDSTAR
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Of course, Tom's ability to successfully raid echoes does not
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conclusively prove that he's an alter ego of Thom LaCosta, nor even
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that Thom is working in concert with him. However, there are two
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eye-raising points to be drawn from this record.
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FIDONEWS 16-42 Page 3 18 Oct 1999
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Anyone who can beat Bobby Queen to an expired echo listing has to be
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noted as a master of the technique. And yet, Tom Knowles was never
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heard from prior to his first elisting.
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And a look at the echoes he raided indicates an uncommon interest in
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administrative echoes, which are normally of zero interest to
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non-sysops.
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How so odd that a new face should appear from nowhere and show
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mastery of techniques which would be known to Thom LaCosta and gain
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control of echoes which might be of interest to Thom LaCosta...
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The second part of the story focuses on Tom's moderation of the
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MODERATOR echo. There is actually more in the postings of Tom
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Knowles to suggest a common identity with Thom LaCosta than in the
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history of his echo acquisitions. In reading of the posts of the
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last few weeks, I am struck as to the similarities in writing style
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between Thom and Tom. Tom likes to quote the rules he has written
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as totally sufficient and completely justified on his own
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authority... Thom takes the same attitude in his activities. Tom
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likes to promote the concept of "voting with your feet" as the
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ultimate recourse - Thom has used the same arguments in the past.
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Tom uses an unusual "slashed" style in his sentences which I've
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noted in Thom's posting in the past. It goes something like this:
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"If you don't agree with/can abide by the rules..."
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None of these observations are conclusive, but there's enough
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coincidence here to raise an eyebrow.
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Then there are events which just don't make sense unless one
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suspects a ruse. Tom posts from Thom's BBS, and yet several people
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report that there is no Tom Knowles listed in the Baltimore area.
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Could Tom be posting under an alias... or telenetting in from some
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other location? Is Thom's BBS even telenettable?
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Tom has Thom post the echo rules in his behalf, ostensibly because
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he can't figure out how to upload a text file to the BBS. But is it
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logical to believe that a user who shows a complete command of
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elisting procedures and may even have access to Thom's operating
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system could be too clueless to upload a text file? Even if Thom's
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BBS doesn't support this capability, terminal programs such as
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Telemate can accomplish this.
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Of course, none of these speculations are conclusive... but one item
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seems conclusive to this editor... as posted by Ruth Argust in the
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MODERATOR echo:
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Tom Knowles wrote in a message to C.A. Klingel:
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TK> @MSGID: 1:261/1352.0 80315d81
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TK> @REPLY: 1:2410/351.0 380094be
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TK> @PID: timEd 1.10+
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TK> @TID: GE 1.11+
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TK> @CHRS: IBMPC 2
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FIDONEWS 16-42 Page 4 18 Oct 1999
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Hey I didn't know that a user on a BBS could use TimEd! Wow, news to
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me. How do you have that configured since it's impossible!
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TimEd can only be used locally. Did you know that Thom LaCosta also
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uses TimEd to post under the same node number?
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Watch it, neither of you have updated for the Y2K bug.
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I think that the jig is up.
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*ruth*
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Though one echo participant pointed out that a remote user could
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conceivably use TimEd through a Doorway program, this is unlikely.
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First, most Doorway programs launch a secondary copy of COMMAND.COM
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to give a remote user access to MSDOS while the BBS is still
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running. This secondary copy of COMMAND.COM has much less
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conventional memory available to it than is required by many
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programs, so it may not even be possible to run TimEd through such a
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program. Secondly, giving a remote user access to MSDOS enables
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them to do such things as formatting the hard drive, downloading the
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user passwords, installing themselves as sysop... in other words,
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Thom would be unlikely to give such access to anyone unless his BBS
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security is incredibly lax. It's more likely that Tom Knowles was
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sitting at the keyboard of Thom's system in order to use TimEd to
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quote a message to C. A. Klingel... a likely event if, indeed, Thom
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and Tom are actually the same person.
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Epilogue:
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The most likely outcome of this story is a weakening of the echolist
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system as a means of identifying the actual moderator of a system.
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Certainly, Tom Knowles authority as a moderator is non-existent by
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now, and Thom's credibility as echolist keeper is diminished by the
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knowledge that he'll use his position for the trivial acquisition of
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echoes. At this point, it almost doesn't matter whether Thom posts
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on the subject - his silence won't cause the growing conviction that
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he posed as Tom Knowles to diminish. The evidence supporting this
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seems too conclusive.
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FIDONEWS 16-42 Page 5 18 Oct 1999
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NET HUMOR
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Seat of Power
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(Thanks to Roy Reed)
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Bill Clinton, Hillary, and Al were in a plane crash, and
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ascended to heaven. They appeared in a large white room in which
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God was sitting on a great, white throne.
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God addresses Al first.
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"Al, what do you believe in?"
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"Well I believe that the combustion engine is evil and that we
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need to save the world from CFC's and if any more freon is used,
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the whole world will become a greenhouse, killing all humanity"
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God thinks for a minute and says "Okay, that's acceptable, come
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and sit at my left."
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God then addresses Bill.
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"Bill, what do you believe in ?"
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Bill replies; "Well, I believe in power to the people, I think
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people should be able to make their own choices about things and
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that no one should be able to tell someone else what to do ."
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God thinks for a second and says" Okay, that sounds good, come
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and sit at my right."
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God finally addresses Hillary; "Hillary, what do you believe
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in?".
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Hillary replies, " I believe you're in my chair ."
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FIDONEWS 16-42 Page 6 18 Oct 1999
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COMIX IN ASCII
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Trick or Treat ( ** )
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Cows... |e e|
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\ / ____*===*______*
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(__) OO * Givenchy *\
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|oo| | * * * \
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/----|-|__|-| /**************** *
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/ | || // *************
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^^ ^^ || || || ||
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Frankenstein's v| v| v| v|
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Moonster Haute Cowture
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FIDONEWS 16-42 Page 7 18 Oct 1999
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NOTICES
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Future History
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26 Oct 1999
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Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.
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31 Dec 1999
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Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
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1 Jan 2000
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The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
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1 Jun 2000
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EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
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15 Sep 2000
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Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
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21 Sep 2000
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10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)
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1 Jan 2001
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This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
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-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
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Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
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FIDONEWS 16-42 Page 8 18 Oct 1999
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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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. -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- .
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| FIDONET-RELATED SITES |
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` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- '
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Last update: Oct 8, 1999
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FidoNet
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Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org
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FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
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ftp://sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
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WWW sources: http://travel.to/fidonet/
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Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
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http://www.tnl-online.com/andy/rgn10.htm
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http://texoma.net/~flv
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Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
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Zone 4:
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Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/
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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
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Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
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(Chinese)
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Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
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Joe Jared, 1:103/301, joejared@osirusoft.com, and
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complaints to jarhead@osirusoft.com .
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Last Updated: 10/11/1999
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
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A new feature has been added to this list.
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a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
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address. The email is translated as follows
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firstlast@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
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appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
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also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
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would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the idea.
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v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com
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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
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-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
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Zone 1 | | | |
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10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | T1? | $??/$10
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12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
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13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
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103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP | aDSL | n/c
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105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
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105/72 @ Larry James | FTP | aDSL | $5/$15 mo.
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106/1 @ Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | 128k | n/c
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106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | 64k | $5/mo
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140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP | T3 | $5/$16
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167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
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211/417 @ Korombos | BinkD,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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270/101 @ George Peace | FTP | 6mbps | $20mo.
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271/140 | Tom Barstow | UUE | T1 | n/c
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280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
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342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
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345/0 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
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396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $10/mo
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396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
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2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
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2424/101 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1 | n/c
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2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
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2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+ | n/c
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2624/306 @ D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
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3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
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3639/93 | Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP | 128K+ | n/c
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3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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3803/1 @ Ben Ritchey | UUE | 56k | n/c
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Zone 2 |
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20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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23/999 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
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221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
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292/626 | Filip Ruymen | Binkp, UUE | 128K+ | n/c
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292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
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335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
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382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
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465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
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469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
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480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
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2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
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2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
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2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
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5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
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633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
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640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
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774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
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Zone 4
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905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
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902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
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* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
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* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
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* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
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