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F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 38 20 Sept 1999
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | 1-717-732-6820 1:270/720 |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 |
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| | (*) | \ )) | DougM@paonline.com |
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| (_/(_|(____/ | |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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For personal reasons, Henk Wolsink has retired as Fidonews Editor
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and has appointed me to replace him. I'd like to thank Henk for a
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job well done: though we disagreed on some issues, I was always
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free to speak my mind here.
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Doug Myers - new Editor, still wet behind the ears.
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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Fidonews Direction ....................................... 1
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2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 3
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Lisa Gronk explains mesh connections ..................... 3
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Alec Grynspan disputes facts ............................. 4
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John Souvestre notes increased publicity ................. 5
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Dallas Hinton debunks Email Surcharges ................... 5
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3. COLUMNS .................................................. 6
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What's Not Happening ..................................... 6
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4. NET HUMOR ................................................ 7
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Mergers .................................................. 7
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5. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 8
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Famous Cows .............................................. 8
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6. NOTICES .................................................. 9
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Future History ........................................... 9
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7. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 10
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Fidonet via Internet Hubs ................................ 10
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Fidonet-related sites .................................... 11
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8. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 15
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Masthead and Contact information ......................... 15
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FIDONEWS 16-38 Page 1 20 Sep 1999
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EDITORIAL
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Fidonews Direction
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I didn't get an operator's manual when Henk turned Fidonews over to
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me, so cut me some slack if I make a mistake or two along the way.
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For the moment, I have no "admin" address (though I did communicate
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with Bob Satti about the change and got a response). Nor am I sure
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if the "editor@fidonews.org" address is pointed in my direction yet
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or not. Please use one of the addresses in the above banner for
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your letters or article submissions for now.
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I'm expecting TIC distribution of Fidonews to be working for this
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issue. Though untested until this release, George Peace has changed
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his configuration so that I may hatch into the FIDONEWS file area.
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From George, distribution should be the same as it's been, since
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Henk was releasing to George also.
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I'm not sure if the HTML page at fidonet.org will be working right
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away or not. Both Henk and I posted to Jim Barchuk telling him of
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the editor change, but I haven't seen a response from him as of
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Sunday morning. I'll be sending Jim a copy via internet email and
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hoping for the best :)
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But those are present concerns, and this is supposed to be about
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direction, which concerns the future. In general, I'm pleased with
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the tradition of Fidonews as a free press and plan to continue that
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tradition. This means that there is no official Fidonews position
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on issues, only the position of the individuals who editorialize on
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those issues. It further means that I won't be rejecting any
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contributions because I may disagree with the writer.
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For a free press to work, it requires input from many so that it
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doesn't degrade into a mere soapbox for the editor. This seems
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intuitive for political commentary, but it's even true for objective
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reporting - the decision as to what news to present shouldn't rest
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with just the editor. To this end, I'd like to encourage
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contributions from the folks reading Fidonews (I know there's a
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bunch of you)... these contributions might be in the form of article
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submissions or in the form of feedback.
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Watch the FIDONEWS echo for a discussion on direction. I'll be
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asking for feedback on some of my ideas, and hoping that YOU will
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have some ideas to contribute. Here's an initial list of ideas I'll
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be posting for feedback:
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* Add a section to the masthead listing the Fidonews Staff. This is
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somewhat complicated right now because there is no staff (though Joe
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Jared has taken upon himself to keep up some of the internet
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information and should be in there). The Staff would be a list of
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frequent contributors with node numbers and email addresses as well
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as a descriptive title. Staff members could identify their work
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with a simple byline, confident that their contact information is
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already listed.
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FIDONEWS 16-38 Page 2 20 Sep 1999
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* Solicit a Bureau Chief from each zone to report on happenings in
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that zone.
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* Encourage Zone Coordinators to publish "state of the Zone"
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articles for all readers.
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* Publish internet listings only when updated rather than every
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issue.
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* Further reduce masthead clutter.
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* Solicit someone from the FTSC to write a series on "FTSC for the
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Complete Idiot"... something that even *I* can understand.
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FIDONEWS 16-38 Page 3 20 Sep 1999
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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(---- Echomail, Zone 1 Backbone, by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/40 ----)
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In last week's FidoNews, you wrote....
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> The current issue rocking the tranquility of echomail distribution
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> seems to be an ongoing argument between John Souvestre and Alec
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> Grynspan. John has, in the recent past, disconnected from all NAB
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> Star systems except George Peace in an effort to prevent the
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> generation of duplicates. Alec has recently expanded his echomail
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> connections to span both the Z1B distribution and the NAB
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> distribution, effectively establishing a mesh which can lead to
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> duplicates.
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There seems to be some confusion about the meaning of the word
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"mesh."
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I view "mesh" as a synonym for "fully connected polygon," a topology
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that uses standard FidoNet SEEN-BY technology and does not lose
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messages or create dupes. It is true that a "fully connected
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polygon" which is broken (i.e. not fully connected) will generate
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dupes. The solution to that is to either repair the broken
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connection or change the topology to hub-and-spoke (incidentally, a
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"broken triangle" IS hub-and-spoke).
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Alec, on the other hand, is trying to implement redundancy (i.e.
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receiving more than one copy of each and every echomail message)
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with software that was specifically designed to avoid redundancy.
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NNTP, for example, is designed for redundancy.
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server: I've got news article 12345678@psg.com
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client: gimme
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server: here it comes
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server: I've got news article 23456789@agora.rdrop.com
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client: don't send, already have it
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etc.
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Using NNTP, a client can connect to as many news servers as he
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wishes (until the gimme ratio becomes zero).
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Alec wants to receive two or more copies of each echomail message,
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sending the first one he receives to his downlinks and throwing the
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second, third etc. copy away. One problem he has is that "duplicate"
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messages from different uplinks are not really identical (they have
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different SEEN-BY lines).
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(-------------------------------------------------------------)
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I figured that any multipath connection is a mesh of sorts, whether
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seen-by's control the dupes or not. However, you're the
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term-meister... I'll find another word in the future. How about
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"mess?"
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FIDONEWS 16-38 Page 4 20 Sep 1999
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Isn't what Alec is doing somewhat the same as the sequence you
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describe with the NNTP server, except that he's using CRC
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calculations for the message identifier (or MSGID supplied), and
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he's discarding the mail he doesn't want rather than telling the
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server not to send it:
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server: Here's message 83923
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client: got it for the first time, I'll pass it on.
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server: Here's message 69364
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client: got it for the third time... in the trash!
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You raise a good point that Alec will receive different SEEN-BY
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lines depending on which path gives him a particular message first.
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But isn't this somewhat analogous to the ZHUB practice (past if not
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current) of stripping all SEEN-BY's except for their immediate
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downlinks (Tiny SEEN-BY's)? How was that controlled?
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To be honest, I don't see why duplicates aren't a bigger problem
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than they appear to be. With everyone able to tunnel through the
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internet and get echomail anywhere they want, there can't really be
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a pure implementation of a fully connected polygon... someone's
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going to open it up somewhere. And most tossers don't store CRC
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codes long enough to detect duplicates which are received more than
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a few days apart.
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Doug Myers
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(---- Echomail from Zone 1 Backbone, Alec Grynspan, 1:341/11 ----)
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>> generation of duplicates. Alec has recently expanded his echomail
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>> connections to span both the Z1B distribution and the NAB
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>> distribution, effectively establishing a mesh which can lead to
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>> duplicates.
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Doug, please don't play reporter when you don't have the facts.
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1. I've been connecting to both backbones since day 1. The only
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problem until recently was that I used a single outbound.
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No dupes in over a year.
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2. I am not intending to establish a mesh. I am ensuring the most
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complete feed - for reasons that go beyond FIDO.
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Consider what's been happening with your Email feed. The mail moves
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thru here fast enough - and goes nowhere because of bottlenecks in
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ERN. To sites more directly connected, the speed is in minutes.
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Also - John did not disconnect from the nodes to ensure no dupes.
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That came after he had already disconnected from 104/1.
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FIDONEWS 16-38 Page 5 20 Sep 1999
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Alec, I appreciate your efforts to provide facts where you feel
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they are missing, but I don't need your demeaning advice about my
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play time. We're all playing here - that's the nature of a hobby.
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I don't plan on criticizing you for playing mail mover :)
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Doug Myers
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(----------- Netmail from John Souvestre, 1:396-1 -----------}
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> 2) There are more problems with echomail distribution
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> than there were when the structure was more monolithic.
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Wrong. They are just more public now since multiple distribution
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systems are involved.
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(------------ Netmail from Dallas Hinton, 1:153/715 -----------)
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Your article about email surcharges is, I'm glad to say, a hoax.
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It's been reported and debunked several times over the past 2 or 3
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years.
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There is a web site (I've forgotten the address) which tracks such
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hoaxes -- you might want to check it out....
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Cheers... Dallas
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(--------------------------------------------------------------)
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I kinda figured it was a hoax. It sounded like one of those urban
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legends which finds a life of it's own, not impeded by reality. I
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wasn't really trying to alert anyone... it just made a good lead in
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to the rest of the editorial's caustic remarks :)
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Doug Myers
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FIDONEWS 16-38 Page 6 20 Sep 1999
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COLUMNS
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.-- -- -- -- -- -- WHAT'S NOT HAPPENING -- -- -- -- -- --.
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| There isn't always something happening on Fidonet, but |
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| there's always something which isn't happening. This |
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| column is dedicated to the lost causes which make Fido |
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| what it isn't today. Published semi-occasionally... |
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`-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --'
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- Doug Myers
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History has proven the detractors of Bob Satti wrong. They thought
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that Bob could never hold on as Zone 1 Coordinator if there were
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ever to be a participatory election...
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Well, it's been two and a half months, and Bob is still at the top
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of the nodelist. Of course, we elected David Moufarrege...
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... by a landslide, actually. David was full of good ideas which
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captured the imagination of those who held hope for a better zone 1.
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It's not as if Fido is in dire straits with the experienced hand of
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Bob Satti at the helm... but it's been two and a half months.
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To be fair, David delayed assuming his elected position citing
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family problems which had priority. Now it's tough to criticize a
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man who puts family ahead of his hobby... but it's been two and a
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half months.
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David, our hearts are with you in your time of difficulty. You
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don't deserve to be the top story in the What's Not Happening
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column... but it's been two and a half months.
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FIDONEWS 16-38 Page 7 20 Sep 1999
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NET HUMOR
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The last few years have seen many mergers, and anticipating new
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mergers can mean excellent market gains. Here are some likely
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mergers to watch for in the year 2000.
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- Xerox and Wurlitzer: They're going to make reproductive organs.
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- Fairchild Electronics and Honeywell Computers: New company will be
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called Fairwell Honeychild.
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- Polygram Records, Warner Brothers and Keebler: New company will be
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called Poly-Warner-Cracker.
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- W. R. Grace Co., Fuller Brush Co., Mary Kay Cosmetics, and Hale
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Business Systems: New company will be called Hale Mary Fuller Grace.
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- 3M & Goodyear: mmmGood
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- John Deere & Abitibi-Price: Deere Abi
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- Honeywell, Imasco, and Home Oil: Honey, I'm Home
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- Denison Mines, Alliance, and Metal Mining: Mine, All Mine
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- 3M, J.C. Penney, Metropolitan Opera Company: 3 Penney Opera
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- Grey Poupon & Dockers Pants: Poupon Pants
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- Knott's Berry Farm & National Organization of Women: Knott NOW!
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- Zippo Manufacturing, Audi, Dofasco, Dakota Mining: Zip Audi Do-Da
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- And finally, with Rex Harrison in permanent retirement, Eddie
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Murphy will be the new CEO of the merger of Dr. Pepper Soft Drinks,
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E. I. DuPont de Nemours & Co. and management consultants Arthur D.
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Little, Inc. The new entity to be called Dr. DuLittle.
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FIDONEWS 16-38 Page 8 20 Sep 1999
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COMIX IN ASCII
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-'`- "Here's
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( oo ^ mooing
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/\_|-- at you,
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| \ \__ _ kid!"
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Famous | \___['
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Cows | ||
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~ ~
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humphrey cow-gurt
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FIDONEWS 16-38 Page 9 20 Sep 1999
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NOTICES
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Future History
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26 Oct 1999
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Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.
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31 Dec 1999
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Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
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1 Jan 2000
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The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
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1 Jun 2000
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EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
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15 Sep 2000
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Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
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21 Sep 2000
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10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)
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1 Jan 2001
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This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
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-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
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Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
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FIDONEWS 16-38 Page 10 20 Sep 1999
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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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Last Updated: 9/11/1999
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
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-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
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Zone 1 |
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10/3 | Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | T1? | $??/$10
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12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
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13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
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103/301 | Joe Jared | BinkP | aDSL | n/c
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105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
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106/1 | Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | 128k | n/c
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106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | 64k | $5/mo
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107/451 | Andy Knifel | FTP, VMoT, UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20
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167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
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211/417 | Korombos | BinkD,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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270/101 | George Peace | FTP | 6mbps | $20mo.
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271/140 | Tom Barstow | UUE | T1 | n/c
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280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
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342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
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345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
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396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $10/mo
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396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
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2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
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2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,UUE | T1 | n/c
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2424/101 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1 | n/c
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2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
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2613/404 | David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+ | n/c
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2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
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3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
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3639/93 | Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP | 128K+ | n/c
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3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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Zone 2 |
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20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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23/999 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
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221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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254/175 | Alex Kemp | UUE | 56k | n/c
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284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
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292/626 | Filip Ruymen | Binkp, UUE | 128K+ | n/c
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292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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335/535 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
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335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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FIDONEWS 16-38 Page 11 20 Sep 1999
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382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
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465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
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469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
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480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
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2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
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2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
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2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
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5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
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633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
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640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
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774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
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Zone 4
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905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
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902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
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--
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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
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* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
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* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
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* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
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Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
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Joe Jared, 1:103/301, joejared@osirusoft.com, and
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complaints to jarhead@osirusoft.com .
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This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
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FidoNews Editor in the past. Joe Jared has recently tested
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links to these sites, with results as noted.
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* Represents dead links, marked for deletion.
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? Entries Are not verifiable from here. (No Route)
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FidoNet:
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Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
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FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
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* http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
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ftp://sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
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WWW sources http://travel.to/fidonet/
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FTSC page http://www.ftsc.org/
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Echomail [pending]
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General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
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FIDONEWS 16-38 Page 12 20 Sep 1999
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* http://www.nrgsys.com/orb/foti
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List servers:
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http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion
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============
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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
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Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
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http://www.tnl-online.com/andy/rgn10.htm
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Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
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Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
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Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
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Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
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Region 14:
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Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
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Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
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Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
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Region 19: http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19
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* Zone 1 Elist http://www.baltimoremd.com/elist/ Autoforwards to
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next link below.
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Zone 1 Elist http://members.xoom.com/echolist/
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* Not sure where the following should be placed:
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* http://www.angelfire.com/biz/snwvlly/fido.html
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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
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ZEC2:
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* Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/echolist/
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Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
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|
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? Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
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||
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Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html
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(German)
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* Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido (English/German)
|
||
Forwards to link below
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Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
|
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Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/
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FIDONEWS 16-38 Page 13 20 Sep 1999
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Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
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REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
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||
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Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
|
||
|
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Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
|
||
|
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? Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
|
||
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||
Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
|
||
* REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr (Forwards to link below)
|
||
REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
|
||
|
||
Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
|
||
|
||
Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
|
||
|
||
Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
|
||
|
||
Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
|
||
|
||
* Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl
|
||
|
||
Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
|
||
? Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
|
||
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
|
||
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
|
||
* Net 5073: http://people.weekend.ru/soa/ (Russian)
|
||
Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian) (No netscape)
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 4:
|
||
|
||
* Region 90: http://visitweb.com/fidonet
|
||
* Net 903: http://www.playagrande.com/refugio
|
||
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
|
||
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||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
|
||
|
||
Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
|
||
(Chinese)
|
||
|
||
|
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FIDONEWS 16-38 Page 14 20 Sep 1999
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FIDONEWS 16-38 Page 15 20 Sep 1999
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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------
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Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720, DougM@paonline.com
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|
||
Editors Emeriti: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
|
||
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
|
||
Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg,
|
||
Henk Wolsink
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
FidoNews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
|
||
INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. It is a compilation
|
||
of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
|
||
authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation
|
||
does not diminish the rights of the authors. OPINIONS EXPRESSED in
|
||
these articles ARE THOSE OF THE AUTHORS and not necessarily those of
|
||
FidoNews and/or the Editor.
|
||
|
||
Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
|
||
Copyright (C) 1999 Douglas Myers. All rights reserved. Duplication
|
||
and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For
|
||
use in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or
|
||
the Editor.
|
||
|
||
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
|
||
|
||
OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
|
||
form may be obtained from the FidoNews Editor by file-request, or
|
||
from various sites in FidoNet and the Internet.
|
||
|
||
STAR SOURCE for all past issues:
|
||
Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from:
|
||
|
||
ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
|
||
|
||
Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
|
||
for that year's issues. The total set is currently about 13 Megs.
|
||
|
||
|
||
INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via:
|
||
|
||
http://www.fidonews.org
|
||
** http://www.fidonet.org/fidonews.htm
|
||
** ftp://ftp.fidonet.org/pub/fidonet/fidonews/
|
||
ftp://ftp.irvbbs.com/fidonews/
|
||
ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/Fidonet/Fidonews
|
||
|
||
And in non-English formats via:
|
||
|
||
** http://www.hvc.ee/pats/fidonews (Estonian)
|
||
http://www.fidonet.pp.se/sfnews (Swedish)
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-38 Page 16 20 Sep 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
** LINK HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED
|
||
|
||
*=*=*
|
||
|
||
You may obtain an email subscription to FidoNews by sending email to:
|
||
|
||
jbarchuk@worldnet.att.net
|
||
|
||
with a Subject line of: subscribe fnews-edist
|
||
|
||
and no message in the message body. To remove your name from the
|
||
email distribution use a Subject line of: unsubscribe fnews-edist
|
||
with no message to the same address above.
|
||
|
||
*
|
||
|
||
You may retrieve current and previous Issues of FidoNews via FTPMail
|
||
by sending email to:
|
||
|
||
ftpmail@fidonews.org
|
||
|
||
with a Subject line of: help
|
||
|
||
and FTPMail will immediately send a reply containing details and
|
||
instructions. When you actually make a file request, FTPMail will
|
||
respond in three stages. You find a link for this process on
|
||
www.fidonews.org.
|
||
|
||
*=*=*
|
||
|
||
You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:
|
||
|
||
http://www.fidonews.org
|
||
|
||
and http://www.fidonet.dynip.com/public/fidonews/default.htm
|
||
|
||
and in the FIDONEWS echo.
|
||
|
||
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
|
||
|
||
SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication
|
||
in FidoNews. In general, send your articles in ASCII (text) format
|
||
via netmail or email to the addresses listed above for the editor.
|
||
The exact article submission requirements for the Fidonews software
|
||
are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC, available from most Fidonet
|
||
hubs. However, you should concentrate on what you wish to say, as
|
||
the editor will normally take care of the technical requirements.
|
||
|
||
"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
|
||
trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141,
|
||
and are used with permission.
|
||
|
||
"Disagreement is actually necessary,
|
||
or we'd all have to get in fights
|
||
or something to amuse ourselves
|
||
and create the requisite chaos."
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-38 Page 17 20 Sep 1999
|
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|
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|
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-Tom Jennings
|
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