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F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 01 4 January 1999
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | +27-41-515-913 [5:5/23] |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: |
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| | (*) | \ )) | Henk Wolsink 5:7104/2 |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| submissions=> editor@fidonews.org |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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| obtaining copies of FidoNews or the internet gateway FAQ |
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2
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FTSC Administrator Election Results ...................... 2
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North American Backbone Echo Changes [Nov-Dec] ........... 3
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FTSC Nominations ......................................... 4
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FTSC Standing Members Election Results ................... 5
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Searching but not finding ................................ 6
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3. NOTICES .................................................. 11
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4. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 12
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5. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 16
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FIDONEWS 16-01 Page 1 4 Jan 1999
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EDITORIAL
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Greeting,
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A very happy 1999 to you all! One year to go and 2000 is upon us.
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And then? Most of the PC's break down, because either it's not
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Y2K compliant or the software used will see to it's downfall.
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What a thought. Yes, I agree and it's not a nice thought at all.
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Or is it? :-)
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A question was raised about the naming of FidoNews and I suggested
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we go as follows: FNEWnnnn.ZIP, this issue being FNEW1601.ZIP
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However, since I have not discussed this with those who rely on
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receiving FidoNews and their system automattically processing it,
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such as fidonews.org, it might not be in the interest to change it
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as suggested above, but rather carry on with the naming as used.
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Happy reading,
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FIDONEWS 16-01 Page 2 4 Jan 1999
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ARTICLES
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FTSC Administrator - Election Results
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by Mario Mure', 2:335/533 mure@sistemia.it
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ELECTION RESULTS
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FTSC ADMINISTRATOR
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01 January 1999
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VOTER SUMMARY
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Eligible Voters: 17
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Votes Cast: 8
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Percentage voted: 47%
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APPOINTMENT RULES
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=================
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From "Voting Procedure", published in the FTSC_PUBLIC echomail
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conference and in FIDO1547.NWS and FIDO1550.NWS:
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"All FTSC Standing Members as per current version of FTA-1003 who
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have not resigned from their position are eligible to vote.
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"Each vote shall be for only one of the 2 candidates. An abstention
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is permitted."
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"The elected candidate will be appointed for a period that ends
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2002-12-31."
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CANDIDATE RESULTS - 2 Candidates, 1 Appointed
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Candidate list is in order of number of votes received:
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# NAME NODE # VOTES APPOINTED TO
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1 Colin Turner 2:443/13 8 31 Dec 2002
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2 Radu Malica 2:530/139 - ---
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BALLOT LIST
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Ballot list is in alphabetical order of password received:
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FIDONEWS 16-01 Page 3 4 Jan 1999
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| VOTER | |
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| PASSWORD | CANDIDATE VOTED |
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| boromir | Colin Turner |
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| Freejack | Colin Turner |
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| Goran_Eriksson | Colin Turner |
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| (1) | Colin Turner |
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| Limerick | Colin Turner |
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| LORIEN | Colin Turner |
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| (2) | Colin Turner |
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| PICKTUR | Colin Turner |
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(1) KeepOnRockingInTheFreeWorld
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(2) Peter_Karlsson_2:206/221.0
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North American Backbone Echo Changes [Nov-Dec]
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by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
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lisa@psg.com
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Summary of backbone echo changes during Nov & Dec.
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Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.
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As noted last month, the North American Backbone changed the format
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of its areafix compatible lists. Backbone.na now lists all NAB
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backbone echos. The backbone.no list no longer exists. Echos that
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are in jeopardy because of low traffic or an expired Elist entry are
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listed in Section 3 of the weekly backstat.na.
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When Thom LaCosta took over the Elist function last summer, he merged
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all unrefreshed entries from Adrian's Elist, using the merge date as
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the refresh date in his database. The result was to give unaware
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moderators an extra five months 'til expiry. Effectively no echos
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have been placed in jeopardy for lack of an Elist entry since
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June '98. These echos are expiring now, and I expect a large number
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of unrefreshed echos to be dropped from the January EList and added
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to Section 3 of backstat.na. I _think_ those echos will be removed
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from backbone.na after three months if they remain un-Elisted, but
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only time will tell for sure.
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The North American Backbone also made it harder to get into, and
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easier to get out of, jeopardy for Low traffic. I am told that Low
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traffic echos will not be removed from backbone.na, so Low traffic
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jeopardy doesn't mean much.
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The net result is that the number of backbone echos is growing,
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although the number of backbone messages continues to shrink.
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diff backbone.na 06-Sep-98 backbone.na 03.Jan-99 [edited].
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Added to the backbone
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FIDONEWS 16-01 Page 4 4 Jan 1999
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> ALLFIX_FILE Allfix File Announce Conference
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> ANIME Japanese Animation Echo
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> BBS_PROMOTION The BBS Promotion "Team" Join Us!
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> BEEMAIL GUI mailer for Win3.1 and Win
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> BINKD The ubiquitous BinkD TCP/IP FTN mailer
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> BURL Serialized Electronic Novels
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> CWL Contact World-Wide Link
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> DAGGER Discussions of Daggerfall and other RPG topics
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> FLAME National FLAME echo
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> MEDIEVAL Medieval studies, re-creation, arts, etc.
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> MP3 International MP3 Discussion Forum
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> NORTH_CAROLINA GENERAL CHAT FOR NORTH CAROLINA
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> SCI-FI_TV SCIENCE FICTION TELEVISION SHOWS echo!
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> TRANSCAN Trans Canada Drivel
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> WORLD_CRISIS Discussion of the World Financial Crisis
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Note: ANIME and FLAME are returning echos.
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Removed from the backbone or quasi-backbone
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< AAOS American Atheist Online Services Echo
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< EFC Earth: Final Conflict series discussions
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< WILDRNSS Wilderness Travel and Camping
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o There are 732 echos in backbone.na [03-Jan-98] (up 12)
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FTSC Nominations
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by Goran Eriksson, 2:201/505, get@get.pp.se
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When working with the preparations for the FTSC elections just
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concluded, it struck me how foreign the nomination process prescribed
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by FTA-1001 is to me.
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In my neck of the woods, the normal thing would be for candidates in
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FTSC elections to nominate themselves and present themselves and their
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merits. The electorate would be trusted to make a sound choice between
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the candidates based on that information and on other information
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available to each member of the electorate.
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Certainly, formal nomination procedures like those prescribed by
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FTA-1001 are sometimes used also around here.
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In other cases, the nomination procedure may formally be open, but you
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don't stand any real chance if you're not recommended by the appointed
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nomination committee.
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In an organization like the FTSC as well as the FidoNet as a whole,
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the norm would however be that anyone may nominate anyone. Even
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her-/himself. Seconded nominations may occur but are not required.
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I therefore suggest that FTA-1001 is changed accordingly.
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FIDONEWS 16-01 Page 5 4 Jan 1999
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You're invited to take part in the discussion about this suggestion in
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the FTSC_PUBLIC echomail conference. That's where the FTSC has to seek
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consensus for changes like these.
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FTSC Standing Members - Election Results
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by Mario Mure', 2:335/533 mure@sistemia.it
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ELECTION RESULTS
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FTSC STANDING MEMBERS
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01 January 1999
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VOTER SUMMARY
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Eligible Voters: 110 (71 RCs and 39 RECs)
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Votes Cast: 26 (16 RCs and 10 RECs)
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Percentage voted: 23% (22% RCs and 25% RECs)
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APPOINTMENT RULES
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=================
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From "Voting Procedure", published in the FTSC_PUBLIC echomail
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conference and in FIDO1547.NWS and FIDO1550.NWS:
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"Only those candidates obtaining support from more than 50 % of
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the total number of RC's and REC's casting valid votes will be
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considered successfull. Successfull candidates will be appointed
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according to the total number of supportive votes they have
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received. The one with the highest number of supportive votes will
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be appointed first etc."
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"Elected candidates will be appointed for a period that ends
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2000-09-30."
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CANDIDATE RESULTS - 4 Candidates, 4 Appointed
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Candidate list is in order of number of YES votes received:
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# NAME NODE # YES NO APPOINTED TO
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1 Lothar Behet 2:2446/301 23 3 30 Sep 2000
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2 Sean Rima 2:252/300 22 2 30 Sep 2000
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3 Todd Cochrane 1:345/2 18 3 30 Sep 2000
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4 David Hallford 1:208/103 18 3 30 Sep 2000
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FIDONEWS 16-01 Page 6 4 Jan 1999
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BALLOT LIST
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Ballot list is in alphabetical order of password received:
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| | CANDIDATE NAMES |
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| VOTER +-----------------------------------------------+
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| | Lothar | Todd | David | Sean |
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| PASSWORD | Behet | Cochrane | Hallford | Rima |
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+-------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
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| caladan | YES YES YES YES |
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| Chopin | YES YES |
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| CIAO | YES YES YES |
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| EREBUS | YES YES YES YES |
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| Eucharist | YES |
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| FTscSM | YES YES YES YES |
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| GUTEN_TAG | YES YES YES YES |
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| HOTDOG | YES YES YES YES |
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| in_between | YES YES YES YES |
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| kachkeis | YES YES |
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| kalamaja | YES YES YES YES |
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| MAGNIFICAT | YES YES YES YES |
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| MNBVWQ | YES NO NO YES |
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| Multisync | NO NO YES YES |
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| MUSFTSC | YES YES YES |
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| phugueadugue | YES YES NO YES |
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| RCVOTE | NO YES YES NO |
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| REC23 | YES YES YES YES |
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| (1) | YES YES YES YES |
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| spudnut | YES YES YES YES |
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| Tony | YES YES YES YES |
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| Voyager | NO YES NO YES |
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| vrx12 | YES |
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| W6TFE | YES YES YES YES |
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| X007 | YES YES YES YES |
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| xxxxx | YES NO YES NO |
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(1) Santo oficio de la memoria
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Searching but not finding
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It's not a game to many of us
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I am writing this article in hopes it will generate some
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thought and be distributed to folks who can make a difference in the
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future of the net and search technologies. If you are such a person,
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sit back and relax, I'd like to converse with you about this for a few
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moments in a totally nonthreatening way. you might even be glad I
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did.
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LEt's take your typical day, and mine. WE've gotta get the
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FIDONEWS 16-01 Page 7 4 Jan 1999
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kids off to school, during our work day we've got to research for
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upcoming projects and network with coworkers to do our daily tasks.
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Yes, we've also got to do lots of research, whether it's on which
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model of furnace to get for the house or is this a safe toy for
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Junior. The internet was gonna make this easier for us, right?
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At this point you're uttering the great words of modern search
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technology, such as yahoo, excite and so on. WEll, all that's fine
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but we're missing the boat.
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During one of those average days you want to order a piece of
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equipment you need. YOu want to make that call when you're not on
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your boss's dime which limits your available time to do this. So,
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you're going to do some research. Ah yes, the supplier has a web
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site, and somewhere on that web site is a price list for products
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they sell, and another of used merchandise they have in stock.
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WEll, no big deal, right? We're gonna go there and grab those two
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lists which are common garden variety zip files, download 'em,
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unzip 'em and either print 'em out or read them.
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Not so fast! well, we get there, but we can't quite remember
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under which link we found it before. LEt's wander around for
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awhile. Hmmm, here's a neat one, a midi file downloads and plays
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while a dancing bear tells you about something you really don't
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want. THe text scrolls across the screen so fast you couldn't read
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it if you tried, but let's back up, our link didn't seem to be
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there. Let's try another. Still not there. Where's that darned
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file? A coworker reminds you that you're going to be late for your
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lunch appointment with the prospective client if you don't get a
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move on, so you log off and grab your coat. AH well, maybe later
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this afternoon. Oops, can't get outside on the net now, can't
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connect, whatevver. NO luck.
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We had it but we lost it! Remember when the internet was a
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collection of machines in the halls of academia, technology
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companies and the military? My first contacts with the internet
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were in the later years of this period, through something called
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fidonet. It was a gateway connection, no binary files could be
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transferred, but a guy could get a lot of work done.
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Under the strategies employed in those halcyon days of the
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net, I might get the price lists in the above example via ftp.
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REmember Ftp? Simple to use, allowed anonymous log-ins, didn't
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care if your browser doesn't have the latest plug-ins. IT worked
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for everybody, worked well too. I might ftp the file, or I might
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use a doccument or database search tool such as wais to narrow down
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my search to items I knew I wanted. I can have a price quote of
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those items via email using something akin to wais. I send out my
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email, meanwhile go have my lunch with my coworker and the
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prospect, come back and get other work done. When checking my
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email later my request has made it through the queue, I find. The
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results of my search are now sitting in my email in-box for my
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perusal. No muss, no fuss, no strain, but the gain I sought when
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I was playing with my browser like I was channel surfing between
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football games. I don't want to channel surf I want to get what
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I want and leave. If I'm in the mood for browsing, the web or my
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FIDONEWS 16-01 Page 8 4 Jan 1999
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public library both work fine, but if I really want to find it, my
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public library has the edge. It can accomodate me there too with the
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Dewey Decimal system and knowledgeable librarians.
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Yes, I lament the loss of some of the old standard
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internet search tools, Archie and wais to
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name but two. Consider the FIdonet gateway I spoke of earlier.
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SEarch tools such as those I mention could be used from gateway
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connections to the net such as Fidonet. Not so with the newer
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breed of search engine and information retrieval which is the www.
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Here's another example of the search from hell. This one was
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saved, though, by a knowledgeable librarian who figured out
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four11.com just wasn't getting us where we wanted to go. Yes, the
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web has opened up the internet to the masses, and there
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are many web search tools to choose from which offer the same
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functionality. Or do they?
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Sometimes using modern search strategies you just can't get
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there from here. A few months ago, I wanted to look up an alleged
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bail bondsman from the Kansas City Missouri area. He had contacted
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me looking for one of my daughters as she'd helped out a boyfriend
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once. I had a phone number and wanted to cross reference it with
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listed bail bonding agencies in the area, so off to my local
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library I went hoping to browse their cdrom telephone directory.
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AS I'm a blind person, I scheduled time with my reader to accomplish
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this. Much to my surprise, the Library's telephone directories
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cd had disappeared in favor of an internet workstation.
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(Great! another one for patrons to use.) But now, on with our
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search.
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The librarian punches up four11.com for my reader. WE try to find
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a way to just browse listings for the area, but it wants to know if
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we want to buy a computer, we want to find people or whatever. WE
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enter "Bail Bond" as a string but it burps on that. SO much for
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four11.com or similar strategies. WHat a joke!
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After wasting twenty minutes we're still not finished and we have
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other things to do with our afternoon.
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An emailable wais server, on the other hand would have given us
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just what we need. With a hardcopy telephone directory or Boolean
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logic and the old text search engines we would have been able to
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retrieve our information and be on our way. one can narrow one's
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search terms and get the
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information sought. In the phone directory search example, the
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librarian finally figured out we couldn't get there from here and
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offered us a hardcopy Kansas City area phone directory. Within its
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pages was what we sought, and we verified the legitimacy of the
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individual and moved on It took us exactly three minutes from the
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time the physical phone directory was placed at our disposal. .
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SO now I'm to the place where I'm going to ask you to do something.
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If you're an average net citizen like me, demand that search
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engine providers provide an offline search capability.
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which usually would mean an emailable interface. Offline
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FIDONEWS 16-01 Page 9 4 Jan 1999
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searching saves you time. It also saves other
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net citizens trouble. Sure, your request is queued up behind those
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who got there before you, but you're using less resources to
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accomplish the job than you would online browsing complex web
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pages. You don't get the seeming instant gratification you get
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from a web search, but how many times did you really need the
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information you sought right now? While you were clicking away to
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get your search started, wouldn't you rather have sent your request
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out over the net and gone to have a cup of coffee or a snack?
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Maybe you would have had time to help Junior with that math
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problem.
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If you're a system administrator or operator in a network such
|
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as Fidonet, demand such services be placed at your disposal by the
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companies with whom you do business as an alternative to all the
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glitz.
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. Your users can benefit from
|
||
them as can you yourself. Value added is a big buzzword today, and
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for the bbs operator hobbyist, it isn't gratifying without callers.
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Callers will call when they feel they derive a benefit, and these
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tools are definitely a benefit when they're understood. A little
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education makes them quite understandable. Try it, your users will
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like it! Just tell 'em a little bit about how to use it. They'll
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do the rest.
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I know, I was such a bbs operator for awhile. The internet
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hadn't yet come to town, and users were using the mail gateway and a
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few search tools I made them aware of.
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They were quite happy to find they could do this with their
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older hardware and software, especially since full net access
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had yet to come to my community.
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If you're someone in a position to choose what software options
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will be available for users of search technologies, consider these
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simple options from the earlier days of the net. They use less
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resources but are just as useful. For your
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users who are intimidated, explain to them how these systems work.
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YOu'll find converts aplenty when they realize how much faster it
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really is for them.
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Platform dependency isn't an issue with these search engine
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strategies either. The old apple II, the commodore models,
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anything that can use email and a terminal program can access them
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if it has a net connection somehow. SOme still use
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email services through gateways from bbs networks and the like.
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FOr those folks and the developing nations' citizens such
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strategies give them full access to the resources that make the
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internet what it is.
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FInally, thanks for taking the time to read this. YOu are free to
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distribute it to any interested party or appropriate usenet forum
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or listserv.
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REgards,
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Richard WEbb
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P.O. Box 614
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West Burlington, ia. 52655
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Internet elspider@interl.net
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Messages voice phone only: (319) 758-0427
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FIDONEWS 16-01 Page 11 4 Jan 1999
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NOTICES
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Future History
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16 Feb 1999
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13th Anniversary of the introduction of EchoMail by Jeff Rush.
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12 May 1999
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12th Anniversary of Fido Operations in Zone 4;
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10th Anniversary of the creation of FidoNet Zone 4.
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24 Jul 1999
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XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].
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9 Jun 1999
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Tenth Anniversary of the adoption of FidoNet Policy 4.07.
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10 Sep 1999
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10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations.
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26 Oct 1999
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Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.
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31 Dec 1999
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Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
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1 Jan 2000
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The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
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1 Jun 2000
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EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
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15 Sep 2000
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Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
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21 Sep 2000
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10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)
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|
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1 Jan 2001
|
||
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
|
||
|
||
-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
|
||
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
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||
|
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FIDONEWS 16-01 Page 12 4 Jan 1999
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||
|
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=================================================================
|
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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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=================================================================
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|
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This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
|
||
FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.
|
||
|
||
FidoNet:
|
||
|
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Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
|
||
FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
|
||
http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
|
||
WWW sources http://travel.to/fidonet/
|
||
FTSC page http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc
|
||
Echomail [pending]
|
||
General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
|
||
http://www.nrgsys.com/orb/foti
|
||
List servers:
|
||
http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
|
||
|
||
Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
|
||
|
||
Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
|
||
|
||
Region 13:
|
||
|
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Net 264: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
|
||
|
||
Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
|
||
|
||
Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
|
||
|
||
Region 19: http://www.compconn.net/r19
|
||
|
||
Zone 1 Elist http://www.baltimoremd.com/elist/
|
||
|
||
Not sure where the following should be placed:
|
||
|
||
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/snwvlly/fido.html
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
|
||
|
||
ZEC2:
|
||
Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/echolist/
|
||
|
||
Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
|
||
|
||
Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
|
||
|
||
Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-01 Page 13 4 Jan 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido (English/German)
|
||
|
||
Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/
|
||
|
||
Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
|
||
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
|
||
|
||
Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
|
||
|
||
Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
|
||
|
||
Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
|
||
|
||
Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
|
||
|
||
Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
|
||
REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr
|
||
|
||
Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
|
||
|
||
Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
|
||
|
||
Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
|
||
|
||
Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
|
||
|
||
Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl
|
||
|
||
Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
|
||
Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
|
||
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
|
||
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
|
||
Net 5073: http://people.weekend.ru/soa/ (Russian)
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 4:
|
||
|
||
Region 90: http://visitweb.com/fidonet
|
||
Net 903: http://www.playagrande.com/refugio
|
||
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
|
||
|
||
Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese)
|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-01 Page 14 4 Jan 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor,
|
||
and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If
|
||
no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
|
||
that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages
|
||
should list access points to all Networks within the Region.
|
||
|
||
TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted
|
||
to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone.
|
||
|
||
-----------oOo-------------
|
||
|
||
Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
|
||
|
||
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
|
||
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
|
||
1:12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
|
||
1:13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
|
||
1:106/1 | Matt Bedynek | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 64k | $5/$15mo.
|
||
1:106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP,VMoT | 64k | $5/mo.
|
||
1:107/451 | Andy Knifel | FTP, VMoT, UUE | 33.6 | n/c
|
||
1:124/7008 | Ben Hamilton | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 64k | $10/$20mo.
|
||
1:140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20
|
||
1:270/101 | George Peace | FTP | T1 | $30mo.
|
||
1:271/140 | Tom Barstow | UUE | T1 | n/c
|
||
1:275/1 | Joshua Ecklund | UUE | 28.8 | $10/yr.
|
||
1:280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
|
||
1:2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
|
||
1:2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,UUE | T1 | n/c
|
||
1:2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo.
|
||
1:2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | $15yr.
|
||
1:345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
|
||
1:346/250 | Aran Spence | FTP,UUE | T1 | $10mo.
|
||
1:396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr.
|
||
1:3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
|
||
1:396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $15mo.
|
||
2:33/505 | Mario Mure | VMoT,UUE | 64k | n/c
|
||
2:254/175 | Alex Kemp | UUE | 56k | n/c
|
||
2:284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
|
||
2:335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
|
||
2:469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
|
||
2:2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE | 64k | n/c
|
||
2:2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
|
||
3:633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP | 33.6 | n/c
|
||
4:905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT, UUE | ??? | n/c
|
||
5:7104/2 | Henk Wolsink | FTP | 28.8 | n/c
|
||
--
|
||
* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
|
||
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
|
||
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
|
||
[I'm only cataloging transfer methods, eg, ftp, email, telnet.
|
||
Specific programs using these protocols are no longer being listed.
|
||
Contact the system operators for details of which programs they have
|
||
available.]
|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-01 Page 15 4 Jan 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
Compiled by C. Ingersoll, 1:2623/71, (609)814-1978, fbn@dandy.net
|
||
Posted on the 1st of every month in FN_SYSOP, R13SYSOP and Fidonews.
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-01 Page 16 4 Jan 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
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|
||
FIDONEWS INFORMATION
|
||
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|
||
|
||
|
||
------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------
|
||
|
||
Editor: Henk Wolsink
|
||
|
||
Editors Emeritii: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
|
||
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
|
||
Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg
|
||
|
||
"FidoNews Editor"
|
||
FidoNet 5:5/23
|
||
BBS +27-41-515-913, 2400/9600/V.34/V.90
|
||
|
||
more addresses:
|
||
Henk Wolsink -- 5:7104/2, hwolsink@catpe.alt.za
|
||
|
||
(Postal Service mailing address)
|
||
FidoNews Editor
|
||
P.O. Box 12325
|
||
Port Elizabeth,
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
|
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|
||
|
||
FidoNews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
|
||
INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. It is a compilation
|
||
of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
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|
||
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|
||
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
|
||
form may be obtained from the FidoNews Editor via manual download or
|
||
file-request, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet.
|
||
PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above postal
|
||
address. File-request FIDONEWS for the current Issue. File-request
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
particular Issue. Monthly Volumes are available as FNWSmmmy.ZIP
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-01 Page 17 4 Jan 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
Annual volumes are available as FNEWSn.ZIP where n = the Volume number
|
||
1 - 15 for 1984 - 1998, respectively. Annual Volume archives range in
|
||
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|
||
|
||
|
||
INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via:
|
||
|
||
http://www.fidonews.org
|
||
http://www.fidonet.org/fidonews.htm
|
||
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|
||
ftp://ftp.irvbbs.com/fidonews/
|
||
ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/Fidonet/Fidonews
|
||
|
||
And in non-English formats via:
|
||
|
||
http://www.hvc.ee/pats/fidonews (Estonian)
|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
You may obtain an email subscription to FidoNews by sending email to:
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
You may retrieve current and previous Issues of FidoNews via FTPMail
|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
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|
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|
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|
||
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|
||
|
||
You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
||
Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from:
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
||
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
||
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|
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|
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