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F I D O N E W S -- Volume 15, Number 17 27 April 1998
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | 1-209-251-7529 [1:1/23] |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: |
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| | (*) | \ )) | Zorch Frezberg 1:205/1701 |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| Submission address: FidoNews Editor 1:1/23 |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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| obtaining copies of FidoNews or the internet gateway FAQ |
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And still it burns...
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 3
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3. ARTICLES ................................................. 4
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ARCH - Virtual Museum Symposium .......................... 4
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4. COLUMNS .................................................. 6
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Whale Music for *Cs ...................................... 6
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Interim Poll Results ..................................... 8
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5. NET HUMOR ................................................ 16
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DOS Users Anonymous ...................................... 16
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6. ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT ........................ 18
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BOB KOHL is an ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE !!!! .............. 18
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InterMail 2.50 Released! ................................. 18
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7. NOTICES .................................................. 20
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Future History ........................................... 20
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8. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY ...................................... 21
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FidoNews PGP Public-Key Listing .......................... 21
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9. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 22
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10. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 24
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FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 1 27 Apr 1998
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EDITORIAL
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During the past week, having re-obtained transportation under the new
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emissions standards in California, I sought a bit of diversion in a
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bit of travel...and I took along the well-worn and dog-eared copy of
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Ayn Rand's ATLAS SHRUGGED to pass the non-travel time.
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I'm more and more amazed at the parallels between FidoNet and the
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opus of individualistic logic.
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What form of government is FidoNet composed of? A democracy?
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A democracy is one in which the people function as their own
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government...yet many crying for a democracy are the same ones who
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are crying about the lack of action by our leaders.
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A democracy is one in which people have a set of rules or guidelines
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to function under, so no one can trample on the rights of others...
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yet many of those crying about the trampling of these rights are the
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same who refuse to recognize the Policy which we operate under.
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A democracy is one in which all can participate in matters which can
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affect them...yet many of those crying about the need to be involved
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are not affected in the least by the discussions that they are moving
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in upon.
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A democracy is one in which a majority of persons involved have the
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ability to enforce and cause changes...and yet a small minority of
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less than a dozen individuals is claiming that they should control
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the future of a region, without a single claim to ability than that
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they "have been wronged" by "those in charge".
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Not really a claim to ability or a indicator of qualification, no?
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If you haven't read ATLAS SHRUGGED, please do so...do not let the
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1100+ pages daunt you, as it may change your ideas on what is the
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real meaning of being "liberal" or "conservative" truly means...
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...as well as who is _really_ "working" for _your_ benefit.
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An interesting thing, this week, and I note it here so that no one
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can go back and point it out incorrectly.
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Doc Logger submitted his LOGGER45.COL this week, after his
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LOGGER43.COL last week. I point this out so that no one can accuse
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me of having censored or deleted a column. More interesting is the
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poll that Doc has submitted...I know that I need not point out to
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others that statistics can be made to say whatever one wants;
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especially when subjective influences are brought into the mix.
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I'm presuming that the poll is LOGGER44.COL.
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Also, from last week's submission is the news release on the ARCH
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Virtual Museum...an interesting concept that members in Zone 2 may be
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better able to take advantage of in person than others.
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FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 2 27 Apr 1998
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Beyond that, the Fido Wars continue...
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Has anyone in Zone 2, other than the Regional Coordinators, been
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asked about the intention of Ward Dossche when he stated that "Zone 2
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would go its own way" since he was not elected as the International
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Coordinator?
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Just a question.
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-zf-
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FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 3 27 Apr 1998
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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Subject: fidonet
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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:43:22 -0400
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From: Tees <donaldt@kw.igs.net>
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To: "'editor@fidonews.org'" <editor@fidonews.org>
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Is there still a fidonet?
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FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 4 27 Apr 1998
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ARTICLES
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ARCH - Virtual Museum Symposium
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Definition of the Virtual Museum
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Legal Aspects
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Technical Parameters and Future Development
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Content
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Art in the Digital Age
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Thursday, May 7, 1998
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Dinner at Schloss Leopoldskron
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Friday, May 8, 1998
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Morning:
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opening remarks by Francesca von Habsburg (Austria)
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1) Definition of the Virtual Museum
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Afternoon:
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2) Legal Aspects
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Dinner hosted by the mayor of Salzburg
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Saturday, May 9, 1998
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Morning:
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3) Technical Parameters and Future Development
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Afternoon:
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4) Content
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Dinner hosted by the governor of Salzburg
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Sunday, May 10, 1998
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Morning:
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5) Art in the Digital Age
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Press Conference
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Following the symposium, a press conference will be held,
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at which the most important points will be recapitulated
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and the results presented.
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The symposium is open to the press. For your accreditation
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please contact:
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Pierre Collet
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Executive Director
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Verein der Freunde der Stiftung ARCH
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Gstuttengasse 29
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A-5020 Salzburg
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Austria
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Tel: +43 662 84 26 16 29
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Fax: +43 662 84 26 15
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mobile: +43 664 412 21 02
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e-mail: pc@arch.co.at
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Francesca von Habsburg,
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Founder and Chairman, ARCH (Austria)
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Alonzo C. Addison,
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Project Director, University of California at Berkeley (US)
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Peter A. Bruck,
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Managing Director, Techno-Z R&D (Austria)
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Graham Defries,
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Attorney, Bird & Bird (UK)
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Matthew Drutt,
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Curator, Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum (US)
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Volker Grassmuck,
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Sociologist, Media Researcher (Germany)
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John Hanhardt,
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Curator, Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum (US)
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Lynn Hershman,
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Media Artist and Professor for Electronic Art
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at the University of Califonia, Davis (US)
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Thomas Krens,
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Director, Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum (US)
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Robbin Murphy,
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Artist and Co-founder, artnetweb (US)
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Michael Naimark,
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Media Artist, Interval Research Corporation, Palo Alto (US)
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Hans-Peter Schwarz,
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Director, ZKM Media Museum (Germany)
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Jeffrey Shaw,
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Director, ZKM Institute for Visual Media (Germany)
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Charles Simonyi,
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Chief Architect, Microsoft Corporation (US)
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Peter Weibel,
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Media Artist and Curator (Austria)
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John Wyver,
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Chairman, Illuminations (UK)
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FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 6 27 Apr 1998
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COLUMNS
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Dear Editorbeing,
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This article is submitted by Doc Logger (163/100 or
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cherriot@magmacom.com) whose eyes carried that same sort of
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glazed look that Dean Rusk had when he was busy bombing the
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world for peace & democracy. Logger's confused state had
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everything to do with reading hundreds of survey answers...
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Roll da flic, Zorch....
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Dear Reverend Visage,
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Thank you for thoughtfully sending 30,000 cute baby Harp
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seals to the offices of Swamp Swine Magazine. I know, I
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know...you assured me that it would be a perfect gift for
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Bridgit Bardot but do you have any idea what Harp seals eat?
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Can you fathom how they smell after processing several tons
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of oily fish? The only things that I've experienced which
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even come close to the stench were the sugar refineries in
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Fiji and the Democratic Convention in '68. I immediately
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shipped them off to the Easter Seals campaign and told 'em
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that they were really Jerry's kids. Since we seem to be
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exchanging gifts, I had several truckloads of sheep manure
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delivered to your driveway. Prunella will be so pleased when
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she emerges from the garage at full throttle.
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I would have attended to your urgent plea for more cash had
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I not been devoting my energies to building a Theremin for
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my son's excremental rock band. I figure that since the band
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has only learned three notes, that they might as well have
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an instrument which sounds suspiciously like aborting whales
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on Methedrine. The neighbours and the noise by-law
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enforcement officers have agreed that the sound exceeds new
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thresholds in the sonic insult department. (This probably
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explains why women are still throwing goldfish at my bedroom
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window late at night.) My son tells me that I am being
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unkind by characterizing his music as "Skunk rock" (music
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that truly stinks) but at least they don't do any John
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Denver covers.
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I think I have figured out the entire skill set needed by a
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ZC. Apparently, all you have to do is program a function key
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so that it quotes a whole message and appends the word
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"noted" to the end. Since Bob Satti carefully shepherds the
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42 words he writes each week, this leaves ample room to get
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really expansive on the larger issues. For example, when he
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was asked what qualities or platform did he advance which
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gained the support of the other ZCs to elect Satti as the
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IC, in a positively verbose display of literary genius he
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wrote:"Why don't you ask them?" Hint for Blondes: Yo Bob, I
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just asked you. In point of fact I did ask the other ZCs who
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FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 7 27 Apr 1998
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were equally sparing with the text. When asked, one ZC told
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me: "because Bob Satti got a majority of votes." Okay so
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logic wasn't one of those subjects that kept me awake at
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university but answering a question about a platform with a
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statement that the election is complete strikes me as a
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tadge absurd. I suspect that some of the ZCs aren't playing
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with a full set of disciples at the supper table. Our
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prayers and our edible underwear should go out to them in
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their hour of need.
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I think also that the *Cs haven't taken seriously the radish
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problem that has been developing in the miscellaneous
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elflord echos. As a professional trendmonger, I tend to spot
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these things in their larval stages so it is best to get
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them lashed down before they larvate into another Netwar.
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Did you notice that it is getting hotter on Zorch's planet.
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He keeps mentioning the "scorched earth policy" without
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elaborating on exactly what he means. I also spotted what
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looked like a statement that Ward was so bored that he
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played with his business card GIF. Gawd, when his Zorchness
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has to do that much deep-sea diving to come up with a new
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conspiracy theory then I think it is time he added more
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tinfoil to his windows to keep out the Venutian thought
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control radio waves. I also noted that last week's Snooz was
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full of vulture effluvia from RanD whose reading material
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seems to be dedicated to the nodelist. As the good and
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decent people that we are, we should send him a copy of
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"Bromiliads of the Antarctic Plateau" so that RanD's
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fudge-like mind can be improved.
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For this week's Chautauqua I'll start with an amusing quote
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from the book "The Demonic Comedy" by Paul William Roberts.
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Roberts spent time in Iraq working as a correspondent for
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Saturday Night Magazine. The exchange quoted here occurred
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between Roberts and an Iraqui factotum named Omar:
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" 'We have democracy here,' Omar assured me, 'Although
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people saying we are not. Why are they saying that?'
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'The reason they are saying that, Omar, is because your
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president wasn't elected, and you have no official
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opposition parties. It may seem a quibble, I know, but we
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Westerners are a spoiled lot.'
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'Saddam he is *elected*!!' His voice soared into a warbling
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treble. 'What is this bull's sheet, not *elected*?'
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'Who elected him?'
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'Revolutionary Council is electing him.'
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'How is the Revolutionary Council elected?'
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'Saddam he is personally choosing them,' replied Omar , with
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pride.
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FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 8 27 Apr 1998
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'Oh well, sorry then: that sounds pretty democratic to me.'
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He grunted satisfaction. 'Yes. People they not understanding
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Iraqui way. They too much jealous that we now have the most
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advanced nation on earth.' "
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Poor Omar. If only he'd known that Fidonet had achieved the
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same "democratic" zenith he would have been cowed for sure.
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Or perhaps Omar was the consultant hired to create Policy4
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because it is hard to imagine the document being written by
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anyone with less than his keen grasp of political
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philosophy. The fact that the elflords are still hiding
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behind the skirts of policy in the face of rather
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overwhelming sentiment suggesting a different course of
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action is a true monument to the ZC/RCCs. Included in a
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separate article in this week's Snooz are the results of a
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survey I conducted. If the results are accurate which I
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believe them to be, then it is time for the elflords to
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clamber down from their respective perches and change the
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operating procedures which have dismayed the sysop peasantry
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for so long.
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One of the grievous omissions in my survey report is that I
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forgot to thank all those who took the time to respond. A
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thousand thank-yous to you all for helping me cast a little
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light into the darkness of the elflords' lair.
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I must go, Visage, my son just fired up the Theremin and the
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house is surrounded by lawyers in heat. It seems that they
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don't believe that simulating the fall of Jericho is an
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appropriate activity here in the Pink Flamingo Paradise. The
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first vibrant chords of the Theremin at a mere 800 watts
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only leveled three city blocks so I don't know what they're
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whining about. As the good and decent people that we are, I
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suggest that the lawyers be re-trained to become productive
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members of society... as sociologists.
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Regards,
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Doc Logger
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Furlang Island,
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South Pacific
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Interim Poll Results
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Completed surveys are still trickling in but there have been
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enough responses to clearly indicate trends. Using
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nodelist.100, I processed the list for duplicate phone
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numbers which carried the same sysop name. The duplicates
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were removed from the list, as were occurrences of the same
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name under different telephone numbers. While this didn't
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eliminate all of the duplicates since a number of net
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function addresses were identified by title, it did set a
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upper maximum number of sysops in Zone 1 at 4,755. Taking
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20% of that number, a second list was compiled to select the
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951 addresses who would receive the survey.
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Each of 342 NCs were automatically put on the survey list,
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and an additional 609 sysops were chosen. The selected
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sysops were chosen by counting the nodes in each net, taking
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20% of that number, and then randomly selecting the
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appropriate number of nodes. A minimum of 1 sysop in
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addition to the NC was selected from each net. To adjust for
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the rounding up that resulted from taking at least one
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sysop, the number of surveys sent to net163 was reduced.
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Commencing April 12 and ending April 19th, attempts were
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made to send the survey to all 951 sysops by crashmail. Part
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of the list was sent by Malcolm Campbell (163/307) and the
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balance was sent directly from my system. Routed netmail was
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not used to send the surveys.
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Of those where an attempt was made, 86 nodes could not be
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sent the survey either because their line was answered with
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a voice, an answering machine, a fax machine, or my system
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could not initiate a successful mail session once a
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connection was made to a working modem. The survey was
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therefore sent to 865 sysops which is 18% of Zone 1. The
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survey was also posted in various echos with an open
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invitation to submit responses. (Only 4 responses were
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generated as a result of posting in echomail conferences.)
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As of April 22, 1998 at 3:30pm, I have received 273
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responses which represents a return rate of 31% and
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represents 5.74% of the nodelisted sysops in Zone 1. (My
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goal was to get surveys from at least 5% of the Zone's
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sysops.) I feel that the sample was large enough to be
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representative and reflective of sysop opinion.
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The survey consisted on 12 questions. For a number of the
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questions the answers that were tendered were a simple "yes"
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or "no" response. For some of the questions, many
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respondents wrote at least several sentences and some wrote
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a great deal more than that. For example, the text file
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where I captured the answers to Question 10 is 165 pages
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long! In addition, a number of respondents wrote on other
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issues which they felt hadn't been addressed in the survey.
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Results: Question 1: From your perspective, what is the
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greatest challenge facing Fidonet? (ie. what is broken, what
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should be fixed, and how would you fix it?)
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A poor leadership 39%
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B internet 31%
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C lack of users 15%
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D lack of good BBS interface 13%
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E nothing wrong 11%
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F poor echomail content 5%
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G over-regulation 1%
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H sysop apathy 1%
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I lack of fun 1%
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Note: Results total to more than 100% because many sysops
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gave multiple reasons.
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Of those who expressed a variant of poor leadership,
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commentary ranged from:
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"Poor to no sysop representation at the higher levels. Too
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much administration in a hobby network. Power mongering!"
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to
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"The greatest challenge facing Fido is that the upper *C
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structure thinks they own Fido. Their total disregard for
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what grunt sysops want is driving systems away daily."
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to
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"Get rid of Satti and that ridiculous system of appointing
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RCs who then vote for the ZC. Banana republics would be
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ashamed of this nonsense."
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Of the sysops who cited the Internet, most characterized its
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graphics and global accessibility as something which Fido
|
||
could not compete. A number of sysops suggested creating a
|
||
good GUI for BBS access and widely distributing it.
|
||
|
||
Conclusion: The natives are restless and would like the
|
||
upper *C structure to tune in as opposed to "ruling." The
|
||
anecdotal commentary suggested that upper *Cs are viewed as
|
||
unresponsive and often capricious, particularly the R10C and
|
||
the R11C. On the plus side, good things were said about Ken
|
||
Tuley and Jerry Schwartz.
|
||
|
||
|
||
Results: Question 2: Do you read Fidonews?
|
||
|
||
A: Always 37%
|
||
B: Sometimes 34%
|
||
C: Often 6%
|
||
D: Never 23%
|
||
|
||
Of those sysops who indicated that they never read Fidonews,
|
||
47% said they would read it if they could get it from their
|
||
NC/NEC but that it simply wasn't available or distributed in
|
||
their net.
|
||
|
||
Best unintended humour came from a sysop who "never read
|
||
Fidonews" but who also suggested that I ought to write an
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 11 27 Apr 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
article commenting on the behaviour of *Cs.
|
||
|
||
Conclusion: If Fidonews is the "glue that binds Fidonet
|
||
together" then perhaps an attempt should be made to
|
||
distribute it to all sysops. Whether sysops read it or not
|
||
is a matter of their own choice but Fidonews could certainly
|
||
be made more meaningful if the ZC/RCs used it to announce
|
||
administrative matters.
|
||
|
||
Results: Question 3: Were you (or your NC) elected by sysop
|
||
level vote?
|
||
|
||
A: Yes 78%
|
||
B: No 20%
|
||
C: Don't know 2%
|
||
|
||
Of the reasons cited by people who answered "no", 76% said
|
||
that there was no vote because only one candidate was
|
||
willing to take the job.
|
||
|
||
Conclusion: At the NC level, sysop level voting for NCs is
|
||
common place with only parts of Regions 10 & 11 still having
|
||
RCs appoint NCs.
|
||
|
||
Results: Question 3b: Was your RC elected by sysop level
|
||
vote? If not, what mechanism was used to select your RC?
|
||
|
||
A: Sysop level vote 68%
|
||
B: Appointed 15%
|
||
C: NC level vote 7%
|
||
D: Don't know 10%
|
||
|
||
|
||
Conclusion: Sysop level votes are commonplace within Zone1
|
||
with Regions 10 & 11 being exceptions.
|
||
|
||
Results: Question 4: Were you consulted by your NC or RC
|
||
with respect to the recent election of a new International
|
||
Coordinator?
|
||
|
||
A: No 89%
|
||
B: Yes 11%
|
||
|
||
Of those who answered "yes", 87% said that they'd read about
|
||
the election in either the Z1C or the ZCC-PUBLIC echo, or
|
||
read it in a Fidonews column.
|
||
|
||
Conclusion: The sysops were not consulted, and therefore the
|
||
Z1C had no mandate to cast a vote on behalf of Zone 1.
|
||
|
||
|
||
Results: Question 5: If you were not consulted, would you
|
||
prefer to have been given the opportunity to do so?
|
||
|
||
A: Yes 67%
|
||
B: No 16%
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 12 27 Apr 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
C: Not applicable, don't care 17%
|
||
|
||
|
||
Conclusion: The ZC should improve efforts to communicate
|
||
with sysops on significant issues.
|
||
|
||
|
||
Results: Question 6: If policy could be amended(or ignored)
|
||
would you prefer that NCs, RCs, and ZCs be elected? If so,
|
||
would you prefer a sysop level vote? (if you favour
|
||
elections and have another suggested mechanism, then please
|
||
indicate what it is.)
|
||
|
||
A: sysop level votes for all *C positions 57%
|
||
B: sysops vote for NCs,NCs vote for RCs,RCs vote for ZC 27%
|
||
C: current P4 system of appointments 11%
|
||
D: don't know, don't care 5%
|
||
|
||
Conclusions: Taken in context with the answers given in 3 &
|
||
3B, sysop votes are already in practice and 84% of sysops
|
||
would prefer election procedures for all *Cs.
|
||
|
||
Results: Question 7: Have you ever filed a policy complaint?
|
||
|
||
A: No 84%
|
||
B: Yes 16%
|
||
|
||
Of the respondents who answered "yes", 94% were either NCs
|
||
or RCs.
|
||
|
||
|
||
Results: Question 8: Have you ever had a policy complaint
|
||
filed against you?
|
||
|
||
A: No 79%
|
||
B: Yes 21%
|
||
|
||
Of the people who answered "no", 67% said that while a
|
||
complaint was never filed against them, they were threatened
|
||
with one at least once.
|
||
|
||
|
||
Conclusion: Either 21% of the Zone sysops are Fidocriminals,
|
||
or policy complaints are being filed for frivolous reasons.
|
||
|
||
Question 9: Are there issues in Echomail which you feel need
|
||
more rules to regulate, control, or illuminate?
|
||
|
||
|
||
A: No 79%
|
||
B: Yes, with respect to moderator duties 11%
|
||
C: Yes, with respect to other issues 5%
|
||
D: No opinion 3%
|
||
E: Yes (no elaboration) 2%
|
||
|
||
Conclusion: It is unlikely that a new Echopol document will
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 13 27 Apr 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
receive support or ratification by the Zone 1 sysops.
|
||
|
||
|
||
Result: Question 10: The nodelist in Zone 1 is shrinking
|
||
because sysops are leaving Fidonet. What is your best guess
|
||
about why they are leaving and what could be done to
|
||
encourage them to stay?
|
||
|
||
It was this question which produced the longest and most
|
||
thoughtful responses. Almost all respondents cited the
|
||
Internet as being a competitive force against which Fidonet
|
||
can't compete. The vast publicity that attends the Internet
|
||
makes it the first choice of new modem/computer users when
|
||
they want to link to a communication network. The existence
|
||
of Fidonet is a well-kept secret in most municipalities.
|
||
|
||
As a matter of historical perspective, in 1990 I surveyed a
|
||
wide variety of Region 12 sysops. Using the definition for
|
||
an "active user" as someone who had called the BBS more than
|
||
50 times, 100% of the BBS systems had over 20 active users.
|
||
Some had as many as 800. A similar mini-poll today indicates
|
||
that a BBS would be lucky to have 5 active users and more
|
||
than half exist with the sysop as the only participant on
|
||
the BBS.
|
||
|
||
One respondent summed up what turned out to be the majority
|
||
opinion when he said "Attractiveness of the Internet without
|
||
immature and illiterate power-mongers setting policy, making
|
||
rules, making irreversible arbitrary decisions..." There is
|
||
a deeply felt anger and frustration with the upper *C
|
||
structure where it is felt that creative leadership has been
|
||
replaced with entrenched non-responsiveness. One respondent
|
||
asked "How did we get from Tom Jennings' noble dream to the
|
||
likes of Bob Kohl?"
|
||
|
||
Of those who tendered positive suggestions, the most
|
||
frequent suggestion was to develop a GUI for BBS access and
|
||
get it widely distributed. Several respondents suggested
|
||
bundling a GUI interface with new computers as a result of a
|
||
cooperative effort with retailers.
|
||
|
||
A small minority (of which I count myself a member) believe
|
||
that part of the problem is in the intrinsic lack of energy
|
||
devoted to writing messages in echomail conferences. One
|
||
respondent said "What do you expect when the 'breaker
|
||
breaker' CB radio idiots sat in front of a keyboard? A
|
||
higher level of communication? Serious conversation? Forget
|
||
it."
|
||
|
||
Recommendations:
|
||
|
||
To Bob Satti:
|
||
|
||
1) Encourage the RCs and NCs to re-establish the
|
||
distribution of Fidonews so that it is available to leaf
|
||
node sysops.
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 14 27 Apr 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
2) Use Fidonews to disseminate your administrative positions
|
||
and to inform the sysops of significant matters.
|
||
|
||
3) Use the "exception" powers granted to the IC to ask the
|
||
other ZCs for their approval to launch a policy change
|
||
initiative. Specifically, ask for assent to create
|
||
Zone-specific changes to policy with respect to
|
||
selection/election of *Cs. Announce your intention to seek
|
||
this assent in Fidonews and ask your RCs to collect a
|
||
consensus opinion on the issue from sysops in their regions.
|
||
|
||
4) Whether you obtain assent from the ZCC or not, put to a
|
||
sysop vote a selection of choices for the mechanisms by
|
||
which *Cs obtain office in Zone 1. Announce the process in
|
||
Fidonews along with an anticipated time frame for the
|
||
results of the vote to become effective.
|
||
|
||
To ZC/RCs:
|
||
|
||
5) Create/appoint/call for volunteers - for a working group
|
||
to devise a GUI interface which can be put into the public
|
||
domain and freely distributed. (If it weren't for the
|
||
efforts of a similar group that created the miscellaneous
|
||
early software, Fidonet wouldn't exist.)
|
||
|
||
6) Step back a pace or two and ask the question: Who do you
|
||
serve? Then ask if your present mode of operation is
|
||
constructive or destructive. Ask the sysops how you're
|
||
doing.
|
||
|
||
7) Help - not force - the echomail distribution system to
|
||
become fully functional. Most of the work has already been
|
||
done by the Stars and RECs but at the net level there are
|
||
significant logjams.
|
||
|
||
To NCs:
|
||
|
||
8) Establish in your net a group of capable people who are
|
||
willing to assist sysops to either set up a BBS, or get it
|
||
smoothly functioning. One of the foundations that built
|
||
Fidonet was the willingness of sysops to help each other.
|
||
Some of that tradition has been lost when a sysop who
|
||
encounters difficulty receives not an offer of assistance,
|
||
but a threat of expulsion.
|
||
|
||
9) Advise the sysops in your net that if they wish to be
|
||
informed about administrative matters, that they ought to at
|
||
least glance through Fidonews which you make available for
|
||
file request from your system.
|
||
|
||
10) Repeat as often as is necessary: "I'm a nodelist clerk.
|
||
I'm a nodelist clerk" until all thoughts of exercising power
|
||
over sysops is gone from your mind.
|
||
|
||
To moderators:
|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 15 27 Apr 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
11) Common practice grants extraordinary powers to
|
||
moderators. Use it judiciously and sparingly. Educate rather
|
||
than dictate, illuminate rather than invoke closure, and
|
||
create rather than curtail. Look up the word "moderation" in
|
||
the dictionary and be guided by what you read there. Perhaps
|
||
as a pleasant change, post a set of "echo goals" as opposed
|
||
to "echo rules."
|
||
|
||
To sysops:
|
||
|
||
12) A lot of people devote a lot of hardware, time and
|
||
energy to bringing mail to your modem. Thank 'em every once
|
||
in awhile and let them know that you appreciate it. (Thanks
|
||
Ken) The Stars, the RECs & NECs make Fidonet happen and most
|
||
of them are damned good at it.
|
||
|
||
13) Ask yourself if communication is the whole point of
|
||
Fidonet. If so, consider your actions and decisions based
|
||
upon fostering that goal.
|
||
|
||
To everyone:
|
||
|
||
14) Fidonet, with or without formal rules relies upon the
|
||
goodwill and cooperation of sysops. View with skepticism any
|
||
rule which intrudes on that simple premise. Fidonet does not
|
||
have to be an organization where common sense, cooperation
|
||
and simple justice are brushed aside because a higher value
|
||
is put on a policy document.
|
||
|
||
15) Get rid of the lame macros, the emoticons, the
|
||
screenfuls of quoted text, and engage the subjects of your
|
||
conversation with pride and energy. The soul of Fidonet is
|
||
in the messages you write.
|
||
|
||
16) And finally, eschew yogurt.
|
||
|
||
Regards,
|
||
Doc
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 16 27 Apr 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
NET HUMOR
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
|
||
DOS Users Anonymous
|
||
by Mike Riddle, mriddle@monarch.papillon.ne.us
|
||
|
||
Subject: DOS users anonymous
|
||
|
||
DOS Users Anonymous 12 Step Program
|
||
|
||
The heart of the DUA's suggested program of personal recovery is
|
||
contained in Twelve Steps describing the experience of the earliest
|
||
recovering DOS users:
|
||
|
||
1. We admitted we were powerless over upgrades - that our computers
|
||
had become unmanageable.
|
||
|
||
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves
|
||
- Microsoft - could restore us to sanity.
|
||
|
||
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care
|
||
of Bill Gates as we understood Him.
|
||
|
||
4. Made a searching and fearless Defrag and Scandisk of our hard
|
||
drive.
|
||
|
||
5. Admitted to Bill Gates to ourselves and to our list server the
|
||
exact version of our current operating system.
|
||
|
||
6. Were entirely ready to have Windows 95 remove all these
|
||
accustomed benefits of convenience, reliability, and
|
||
productivity.
|
||
|
||
7. Humbly asked him to remove our current operating system's
|
||
simplicity.
|
||
|
||
8. Made a list of all files (hidden or system) we had accidentally
|
||
deleted and became willing to commit to the Window's 95
|
||
recycling feature.
|
||
|
||
9. Made direct payment to Microsoft or its agent wherever possible,
|
||
except when to do so would require us to use the MS Network.
|
||
|
||
10. Continued to struggle with the Win 95 installation program and
|
||
when we were finally out of time and patience promptly admitted
|
||
it to Microsoft product support.
|
||
|
||
11. Sought through the Microsoft home page to improve our conscious
|
||
contact with Bill Gates as we understood Him, asking only for
|
||
knowledge of His will for us and software (conforming to the
|
||
Active Accessibility standard) to carry that out.
|
||
|
||
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps,
|
||
we tried to carry this message to disabled computer users
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 17 27 Apr 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
everywhere and to use Windows 95 (or higher) applications in all
|
||
our computing.
|
||
|
||
Newcomers are not asked to accept or follow these Twelve Steps in
|
||
their entirety if they feel unwilling or unable to do so.
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 18 27 Apr 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
|
||
BOB KOHL is an ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE ... written
|
||
by two U.C.L.A. undergrads!
|
||
|
||
NOT REALLY. Just kidding.
|
||
|
||
BUT.... now that I have your attention, why don't
|
||
you try some of these fine echos today:
|
||
|
||
the HOMESCHL echo:
|
||
Parent-to-parent support, help, and discussion of
|
||
home-based and other alternative education.
|
||
|
||
the PCBPPL echo:
|
||
Discussion and support of Clark Development's
|
||
PCBoard Programming Language (PPL).
|
||
|
||
the AUDIO echo:
|
||
Audio, sound, acoustics, techniques, recording, processing,
|
||
applications, home stereos, theatres; plus professinal
|
||
concert/sound reinforcement, recording and brodcast;
|
||
audio's role in the emerging medias, help for equipment
|
||
use, selection... Anything AUDIO, that's the echo's name.
|
||
|
||
All of the above available on the North American Backbone
|
||
and distributed by the FidoSpine distribution system.
|
||
|
||
|
||
-- Ronnie L. Grant, 1:3603/140
|
||
or ronnie.grant@global.dyn.ml.org
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
|
||
InterMail 2.50 Released!
|
||
|
||
FURTHER DEVELOPMENT RELEASES INTERMAIL 2.50!
|
||
|
||
April 20, 1998
|
||
1:369/35
|
||
|
||
(Coconut Creek, Fla.) Further Development, Inc. (FDI), announced
|
||
today the release of the long-awaited InterMail v2.50.
|
||
|
||
When asked why development of the new InterMail has taken so long,
|
||
Peter Stewart, FDI President and author of the popular Fidonet-style,
|
||
front-end mailer said, "We honestly thought it would only take a few
|
||
weeks to complete... Still, we believe we beat out the "other guys"
|
||
when compared to their estimates."
|
||
|
||
Michele Stewart, FDI COO and wife of the author, provided additional
|
||
details regarding the company's latest release. "We just won't
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 19 27 Apr 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
release a product we feel isn't stable or complete," she said.
|
||
"A program released on time with major bugs left in is just not our
|
||
style. We'd rather wait and provide our customers with a solid,
|
||
reliable product." The new release also allows sysops to keep a
|
||
demo on their systems which will run for 60 days from install without
|
||
having to download a new time-limited demo every month or so as
|
||
required in the past.
|
||
|
||
"As for our existing customers," she added, "we'd really like to
|
||
thank them for their patience and loyalty. Such has gone a long way
|
||
in keeping us working on the product despite opposition which would
|
||
have had us rolling over and giving up long before this." All
|
||
customers entitled to disks (i.e., those who paid for shipping in
|
||
the past) will receive them shortly. FDI requests that 6-8 weeks be
|
||
allowed for receipt since all addresses apparently have to be
|
||
manually re-input after a hard drive crash last year wiped out their
|
||
database.
|
||
|
||
Some of the new features include being able to sync your system clock
|
||
to Caller-ID or to another mailer, user-defined semaphores, 80 aka's,
|
||
a brand new configuration program with extensive hypertext help,
|
||
Editor support of several BBS message formats including *.msg,
|
||
Hudson, Goldbase, WildCat 4.x, PCBoard 15.x and more. A nodediff
|
||
processor is now also included.
|
||
|
||
Further Development, Inc. can be reached for voice support and orders
|
||
at 954-418-9400. The hours are Monday thru Friday, 11 a.m. to 8 p.m.
|
||
Eastern. The company's Internet E-mail address is fdi@furtherdev.com
|
||
and its Web page is accessible at http://www.furtherdev.com. The
|
||
release version can be file requested as INTERMAIL or IMDEMO from
|
||
their Mailer at 1:369/35 at 954-418-8110 or downloaded from their FTP
|
||
site at ftp://www.furtherdev.com/pub (/demo). The company can also be
|
||
reached by writing to: Further Development, Inc., P.O. Box 821864,
|
||
South Florida, FL 33082-1864.
|
||
|
||
InterMail is a trademark of Further Development, Inc. All other
|
||
trademarks used herein are the property of their respective owners.
|
||
|
||
-30-
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 20 27 Apr 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
NOTICES
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
Future History
|
||
|
||
30 Apr 1998
|
||
Queens Day, Holland.
|
||
|
||
17 May 1998
|
||
Independence Day, Norway.
|
||
|
||
22 May 1998
|
||
Expo '98 World Exposition in Lisbon (Portugal) opens.
|
||
|
||
14 Sep 1998
|
||
Start of International BBS Week [thru 20 Sep 98].
|
||
|
||
22 Sep 1998
|
||
First anniversary of the FidoNews domain of www.fidonews.org.
|
||
|
||
1 Dec 1998
|
||
Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
|
||
Tom Jennings.
|
||
|
||
24 Jul 1999
|
||
XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].
|
||
|
||
31 Dec 1999
|
||
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
|
||
|
||
1 Jan 2000
|
||
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
|
||
|
||
1 Jun 2000
|
||
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
|
||
|
||
15 Sep 2000
|
||
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
|
||
|
||
1 Jan 2001
|
||
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
|
||
|
||
-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
|
||
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 21 27 Apr 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
|
||
FidoNews PGP Public-Key Listing
|
||
|
||
[this must be copied out to a file starting at column 1 or
|
||
it won't process under PGP as a valid public-key]
|
||
|
||
-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
|
||
Version: 2.6.2
|
||
Comment: Democracy Requires A Free And Uncensored Press.
|
||
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The FidoNews key is also available on the FidoNews homepage listed
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in the Masthead information.
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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the Editor as
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of this appearance.
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NOTE: I am looking for a comprehensive list of Telnet, VMODEM, BinkP,
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Argus and other TCP/IP based nodes operating FidoNet on the
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InterNet, either by Zone or worldwide, to post here as well.
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- Ye Editor
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FidoNet:
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Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
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FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
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http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
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WWW sources http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html
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FTSC page http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc
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Echomail http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/index.html
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WebRing http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html [TFN]
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General Info http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
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Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
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Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
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Region 13: http://www.smalltalkband.com/st01000.htm
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Region 14:
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Region 15:
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Region 16: http://www.tiac.net/users/satins/region16.htm
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Region 17: http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/region17.htm
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REC17: http://www.westsound.com/ptmudge/
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Region 18: http://techstop.pdn.net/fido/
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Region 19: http://www.compconn.net
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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
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ZEC2:
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Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/z2_elist/
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FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 23 27 Apr 1998
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Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
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Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
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Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (in German)
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Region 25:
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http://www.trak-one.co.uk/net254
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
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Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (in French)
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Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (in Swiss?)
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Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (in Italian)
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Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (in Spanish)
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REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr
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Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
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Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
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Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (in Greek and English)
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Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl
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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
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============
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Zone 4: (not yet listed)
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Region 90:
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Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (in Spanish)
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||
============
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Zone 5: http://w3.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm
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||
|
||
============
|
||
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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
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|
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Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (China)
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============
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FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 24 27 Apr 1998
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=================================================================
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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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=================================================================
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------
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|
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Editor: Zorch Frezberg
|
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|
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Editors Emeritii: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
|
||
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
|
||
Donald Tees, Christopher Baker
|
||
|
||
"FidoNews Editor"
|
||
FidoNet 1:1/23
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||
BBS 1-209-251-7529, 300/1200/2400/9600/V.34/V.90
|
||
|
||
more addresses:
|
||
Zorch Frezberg -- 1:205/1701, zorch@repairnet.com
|
||
zorch@fidonews.org
|
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zorch@qnis.net
|
||
zorch@eiv.com
|
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zorch@kumr.lns.com
|
||
|
||
(Postal Service mailing address)
|
||
FidoNews Editor
|
||
P.O. Box 642
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||
Fresno, CA 93709-0642
|
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U.S.A.
|
||
|
||
|
||
voice: 1-209-446-9038 [voice mail = 'blind' numbers not returned]
|
||
|
||
------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
FidoNews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
|
||
INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. It is a compilation
|
||
of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
|
||
authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation
|
||
does not diminish the rights of the authors. OPINIONS EXPRESSED in
|
||
these articles ARE THOSE OF THE AUTHORS and not necessarily those of
|
||
FidoNews.
|
||
|
||
Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
|
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Copyright 1998 Zorch Frezberg. All rights reserved. Duplication
|
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and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For
|
||
use in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or
|
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the Editor.
|
||
|
||
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
|
||
|
||
OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
|
||
form may be obtained from the FidoNews Editor via manual download or
|
||
file-request, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet.
|
||
PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above postal
|
||
address. File-request FIDONEWS for the current Issue. File-request
|
||
FNEWS for the current month in one archive. Or file-request specific
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 25 27 Apr 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
back Issue filenames in distribution format [FNEWSFnn.ZIP] for a
|
||
particular Issue. Monthly Volumes are available as FNWSmmmy.ZIP
|
||
where mmm = three letter month [JAN - DEC] and y = last digit of the
|
||
current year [8], i.e., FNWSJAN8.ZIP for all the Issues from Jan 98.
|
||
|
||
Annual volumes are available as FNEWSn.ZIP where n = the Volume number
|
||
1 - 15 for 1984 - 1998, respectively. Annual Volume archives range in
|
||
size from 48K to 1.4M.
|
||
|
||
|
||
INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via:
|
||
|
||
http://www.fidonews.org
|
||
http://www.fidonet.org/fidonews.htm
|
||
ftp://ftp.fidonet.org/pub/fidonet/fidonews/
|
||
ftp://ftp.aminet.org/pub/aminet/comm/fido/
|
||
ftp://ftp.irvbbs.com/fidonews/
|
||
|
||
*=*=*
|
||
|
||
You may obtain an email subscription to FidoNews by sending email to:
|
||
|
||
jbarchuk@worldnet.att.net
|
||
|
||
with a Subject line of: subscribe fnews-edist
|
||
|
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and no message in the message body. To remove your name from the email
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distribution use a Subject line of: unsubscribe fnews-edist with no
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message to the same address above.
|
||
|
||
*
|
||
|
||
You may retrieve current and previous Issues of FidoNews via FTPMail
|
||
by sending email to:
|
||
|
||
ftpmail@fidonews.org
|
||
|
||
with a Subject line of: help
|
||
|
||
and FTPMail will immediately send a reply containing details and
|
||
instructions. When you actually make a file request, FTPMail will
|
||
respond in three stages. You find a link for this process on
|
||
www.fidonews.org.
|
||
|
||
*=*=*
|
||
|
||
You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:
|
||
|
||
http://www.fidonews.org
|
||
|
||
STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
|
||
Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from:
|
||
|
||
ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
|
||
|
||
Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-17 Page 26 27 Apr 1998
|
||
|
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|
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for that year's issues. The total set is currently about 13 Megs.
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|
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=*=*=*=
|
||
|
||
The current week's FidoNews and the FidoNews public-key are now also
|
||
available almost immediately after publication on the FidoNews Editor
|
||
homepage on the World Wide Web at:
|
||
|
||
http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html
|
||
|
||
There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
|
||
to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives. There is also an email
|
||
link for sending in an article as message text. Drop on over.
|
||
|
||
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
|
||
|
||
A PGP generated public-key is available for the FidoNews Editor from
|
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1:1/23 [1:205/1701] by file-request for FNEWSKEY or by download from
|
||
IKVHFoT! BBS at 1-209-251-7529 as FIDONEWS.ASC in File Area X. It
|
||
is also posted twice a month into the PKEY_DROP Echo available on the
|
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Zone 1 Echomail Backbone.
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
|
||
FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
|
||
ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews Editor, or file-requestable
|
||
from 1:1/23 [1:205/1701] as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". ALL Zone
|
||
Coordinators also have copies of ARTSPEC.DOC. Please read it.
|
||
|
||
"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
|
||
trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141,
|
||
and are used with permission.
|
||
|
||
"Disagreement is actually necessary,
|
||
or we'd all have to get in fights
|
||
or something to amuse ourselves
|
||
and create the requisite chaos."
|
||
-Tom Jennings
|
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|
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