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F I D O N E W S -- Vol.13 No. 6 (05-Feb-1996)
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| A newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet BBS community | "FidoNews" BBS |
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| _ | +1-519-570-4176 |
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| | | \ \\ | Editors: |
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| | (*) | \ )) | Donald Tees 1:221/192 |
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| (_/(_|(____/ | |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| Submission address: editors 1:1/23 |
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| MORE addresses: |
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| submissions=> editor@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| Don -- don@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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| obtaining copies of fidonews or the internet gateway faq |
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| please refer to the end of this file. |
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Table of Contents
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1. Editorial..................................................... 1
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2. Articles...................................................... 2
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Greetings Editor!........................................... 2
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Greetings Editor!........................................... 3
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FidoNet.... Commentary...................................... 3
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Dirt Cheap Software Available............................... 4
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CaveNet -- for Cave-Related Conferences..................... 7
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Gateways, Fido and Life..................................... 8
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Backbone Echo Changes [Nov-Dec]............................. 9
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Free Listings in the Telecommunications Directory........... 10
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Mr Juda..................................................... 10
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3. Fidonews Information.......................................... 11
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Editorial
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FidoNews 13-06 Page: 2 05 Feb 1996
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I apparently got the node address of Mr CIA wrong last
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week. The article had been sent via a bombing run to some 15 or
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twenty people, and contained the entire article written by Mr.
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Juda as a quotation at the begining. I editid out the 20 or 30
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kludge lines, etc., that resulted, and seem to have gotten the
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wrong node number on the article.
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For that, I apologize. For calling Mr. CIA a paranoid
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idiot in this week's issue, I will not. Perhaps the readers of
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this can read his note, and decide on that themselves. I cannot
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be bothered.
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Articles
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Greetings Editor!
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From: C I A (1:2623/71)
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You needn't feel embarrassed on my behalf. I just wanted to point
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out, however, that I don't even have an echomail feed, so I don't
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know how I would be well-known. My apologies if the word "anal" was
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taken as foul-mouthed. Also, I think you may be mistaken about Mr.
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Juda paying for his gateway on his own nickle, his message said the
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IEEE had paid for the resources and bandwidth (hence my comment
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about leeching).. The purpose of my letter was to express my
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disgust at the way the gateway was run - twit filtering, improper
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bouncing, etc.. I did not ask for a chance to run my own gate - I
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stated that I could, very simply and cheaply, do so, and intend to
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do so, but not with FTS gating programs.
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Mr. Juda wanted to go out the door making us all feel guilty that a
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few people were abusing his service - it wasn't me, I used the
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gateway perhaps three times, and found it unreliable, and didn't
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continue trying. My message offered a few reasons not to feel
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guilty about Burt quitting, that we're not loosing a gatekeeper,
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we're gaining an open door :)
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(BTW, my real name is in the nodelist, if you would like to look up
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my node, CIA are my initials ;p )
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CiA
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FidoNews 13-06 Page: 3 05 Feb 1996
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Greetings Editor!
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From: C I A (1:2623/71)
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Sir, I have just noticed an error in the letter you published from
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me.
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** The Free Ride is Over! ***
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BY C.I.A. CASINO NETWORK (1:2623/58)
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[snip]
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Why does it say Casino Network (1:2623/58) when I sent it to you
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crash from my own node, which was in the origin or kludge line? (I
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wonder, Is that a subtle attempt to frame me of forgery, for later
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reprisals, for sending my msg about Mr. Juda?? Yes, I'm paranoid ;p )
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EDITOR'S NOTE: It arrived with 4 pages of quotations at the
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beginning. Those contained several different
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addresses of various systems, and it was unclear
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where it came from. I cleaned it up (apparently
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erroneously) before printing it. If that gives rise
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to rampant paranoia, I apologize.
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FidoNet.... Commentary
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by Fran Clodomar 1:278/109
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No Place Like . . .
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My name is Fran and I'm a sysop of oh, say, uh, 9 years. I have been
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a user when I got my first computer, which was (blush, shudder) Tandy 1K
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TX. That was also my first bbs computer. Along the way, I met some
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really wonderful folks and some not so wonderful folks. I also met
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users face to face as well as online. At the time I begun, I was living
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in Texas, in a small city and started modeming. I still have fond
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memories of Net 386. (Hi guys, hope you're reading this little drivel).
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You know, the image you have in mind sometimes doesn't jab with reality.
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(I'd confess, I had this image of a God-like persona when I finally met
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the sysop of one of the bbs that I had frequented.) It was a relief and
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a let-down. A relief because the sysop was a normal person like myself
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and a let-down because of the image that I had so carefully crafted from
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a few cyber-chat that I had with him was blown to smithereens.
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Now why am I writing this?? First, I've got nothing better to do than
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to sit at my computer all day and wait for the echoes to come in. I know
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what you are thinking, "Yeah, right ", a sly grin on your faces. Okay
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so that didn't work. Okay. How about this one, "I've been meaning to
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write to Fidonews for a long time now and this is a good a chance as
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any." No??? Humph! You are a tough audience, you know. The jokes are
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deader than a ..... Can't say that word. This is a family type audience.
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Young folks might be reading this and get the wrong impression. I know
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I just did, reading the last issue (13-05). What a horrible way to
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end the tome. Insult flying, crude manners showing, and a no-gut way
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of bragging. NO-GUT??!!?? you say. Yes, no guts. The writer didn't
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FidoNews 13-06 Page: 4 05 Feb 1996
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bother to use his real name on the article. Instead he/she used an
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alias of C.I.A. Kind of make you wonder if perhaps he/she
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(got to be PC here) was the terrorist behind the successful
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bombing of the Fidonet/Internet Gateway. Let's give this person
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a round of applause, shall we? [applause sign light up] It is this kind
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of mentality that causes others to question their sanity about doing
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FUN things that helps connect and bring people together.
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It's this kind of mental attitude that causes echoes to dry up.
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And it is this kind of attitude that causes net to stagnant and died.
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DIED??!!?? You asked incrediously. Yes died. At least the Fidonet
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that I once knew is dying. I never did get the chance to meet Tom
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Jennings or any of the founding members but I did get a
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chance to meet the wonderful folks who followed after them. We must
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not let a few mean-spirited individuals try to spoil the camaderie and
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spirit that was once Fidonet. Fidonet set the trends for other nets.
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It is the standard by which othernets judged themselves. There is not
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a day that goes by when this net isn't mention whether in a derogatory
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manner or in a neutral tone. I don't have the answers on how to make
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this net better. But I do have some thought on how to treat people.
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Just because it's a few pixels that lights up the phosphor dots on a
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cathode ray tube, it doesn't mean we can hide behind it and act boorish.
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It doesn't mean that we can take our intelligence down 100 point below
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and act like complete jerks or idiots. Come on, now. The words were
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written by a human being, flesh and blood, with intelligence, wits,
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sensitivity, and heart. I've read some of the posting in some of the
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echoes and some of them are so down right cruel and crude even from
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the moderators themselves. Shouldn't such one be a model for the users
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in the echoes?
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You may not care, but I do. And I aim to stick with Fidonet til the
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bitter end.
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Thank you for your attention to my long-winded drivel.
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Dirt Cheap Software Available
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by Bruce Bowman 1:231/710
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Dirt Cheap Software Products
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I was a little suprised to see that ads were allowed in the last
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snooze. I thought I'd take advantage of that, if it's allowed. If
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not...simply don't publish this message.
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PRODUCTS IN THE DIRT CHEAP SOFTWARE LINE!
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=========================================
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The following products are all available from the H.O.M.E. BBS on
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your first call (317)539-6579 or may be file requested from FidoNet
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1:231/710 or DoorNet 75:7317/71. They are also available at several
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anonymous FTP sites on the Internet and the QFN file distribution
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system.
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FidoNews 13-06 Page: 5 05 Feb 1996
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DIRT CHEAP DOORS have been successfully configured and run on
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RemoteAccess systems, QuickBBS, Renegade, GAP, TriBBS, GTPower,
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PowerBBS, Searchlight, Spitfire, Synchronet, ProBoard, PCBoard,
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Maximus, RBBS, and more! Surely they will run on your system, too!
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The H.O.M.E. BBS uses a VFast modem that may have difficulty
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handshaking with some V.34 modems. Send email to BEB@lilly.com and
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we'll find a way to get them to you!
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BCheckers
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---------
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The flagship of the Dirt Cheap line. Many features, the best
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CHECKERS DOOR on the market! Have to see to believe. FidoNet
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"magic name" of BCHECK. Play the sysop, online rules and door
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instructions, hall of fame and game status bulletins, non-
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standard COM ports, with or without a FOSSIL, simple
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configuration. $12 registration.
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*Coming soon -- play the computer! *
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Buzz
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----
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The original role-playing DOOR of drug abuse. Try to reach the
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ozone layer before burning out all your brain cells. Go to jail,
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grow your hair, jump out the window if you take too many hallu-
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cinogens. MUCH more! Ratings are assigned at the end of the game,
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includes an online "Hall of Burnouts."
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*DISCLAIMER* Buzz is for fun, and is not meant to condone the
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activities mentioned within it. Please place the door in a
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restricted area so children cannot access it.
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Carrier
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-------
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A FREEWARE utility for QuickBBS and close clones, CARRIER allows
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you to detect users who often drop carrier and take appropriate
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action to warn or punish them. Configurable file names and
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warn/punish levels. Use it in conjunction with the PACK_IT
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utility below.
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DoItAll
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-------
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MUST-HAVE Swiss army knife specifically for QuickBBS sysops!
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Completely manage and sort your file area listings, remove
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missing files or add orphans. Create best user bulletins, prune
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log files, make allfiles lists. Even includes a generator for
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user's birthdays this month! MUCH MORE PLANNED - free upgrades.
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Shareware: $10 registration.
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Pack_It
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-------
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Convert MULTIPLE text files into a SINGLE FidoNet type 2 packet.
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Makes both netmail or echomail -- at the same time, if you want
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-- and can be used for gating mail in some applications. Notify
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yourself of uploads or post log files to yourself, rather than
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FidoNews 13-06 Page: 6 05 Feb 1996
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reading them from DOS. Can be run from any directory. Converts
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multiple files in a SINGLE PASS...option to delete the files
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once posted. Uses your tosser to route the resulting mail
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according to your existing configuration. Shareware -- only $5.
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KaBoom!
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------
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Excellent clone DOOR of the Minesweeper game. Full configuration,
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Hall of Fame, TUTORIAL MODE, and MORE! FidoNet "magic name" of
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KABOOM. $10 registration.
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Towers of Hanoi
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---------------
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Yet another DOOR of the classic puzzler. Move the stacked disks
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from one peg to the other without ever placing a large disk on
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top of a smaller one. You're being timed! Select number of disks,
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with separate Hall of Fame for each level of difficulty. Much
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more! $8 registration...FidoNet "magic name" of HANOI.
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Toilet Stall
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------------
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Another great DOOR from DIRT CHEAP SOFTWARE! This is a grafitti
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wall door with a twist...the grafitti appears in the bowl of a
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toilet! As you read each post, the previous post is flushed.
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Hilarious! Many configuration options, $5 registration. FidoNet
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"magic name" of TOILET.
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Tic-Tac-Time
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More fun than it sounds! Play Tic-Tac-Toe against the computer
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and WIN CONNECT TIME! Great graphics. Configurable "computer
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error" levels, and much more. FidoNet "magic name" of TICTAC.
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$5 registration.
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FREAKOUT!
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---------
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A program that's sure to throw a scare into your co-workers.
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When executed, FREAKOUT's sirens wail, a huge WARNING flashes,
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and a notice is displayed that their hard drive will be erased
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if they don't type a ridiculous key combination within 15
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SECONDS. It appears to carry out this threat, but really does
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nothing and stops in a couple of minutes. FREEWARE!
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FileSort
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--------
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Simple QuickBBS utility to sort your file areas alphabetically.
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"Magic name" of FILESORT. FREEWARE!
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LogPrune
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--------
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Simple command-line utility to prune log files before they get
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out of hand. FREEWARE! "Magic name" of LOGPRUNE.
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ExitBug
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-------
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FidoNews 13-06 Page: 7 05 Feb 1996
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FREEWARE! Fixes doors running under QuickBBS that expect a
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RemoteAccess style of EXITINFO.BBS. "Magic name" of EXITBUG.
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Dirt Cheap doors are available at two anonymous FTP sites on the
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Internet. Check out one of these sites for the latest version:
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ftp.ldl.net
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ftp.uniserve.com /pub/bbs_doors/dirt_cheap
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wuarchive.wustl.edu /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS/bbsdoors
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File names are:
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BCHECK15.ZIP
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KABOOM22.ZIP
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BUZZ11.ZIP
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TICTAC11.ZIP
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TOILET10.ZIP
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HANOI10.ZIP
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PACK_IT and DOITALL are available at any SimTel mirror site in the
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/simtel/msdos/fido and /simtel/msdos/bbs directories, respectively.
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Try the wuarchive site above, oak.oakland.edu, or ftp.cdrom.com.
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There are MANY other simtel sites as well.
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CaveNet -- for Cave-Related Conferences
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by Bruce Bowman 1:231/710
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CaveNet Echoes Available
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I'm not going to waste a lot of hard drive space here -- if you are
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interested in some cave-related echoes, consider connecting with the
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CaveNet conferences.
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CaveNet is gated into Fido by me (Bruce Bowman) at 1:231/710. There
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is no distribution system, nor is it on the backbone. Until traffic
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increases, you will have to poll me for mail. Several of the echoes
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are gated to Internet mailing lists, as indicated by the * below.
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If interested, send me netmail giving me a session password and what
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echoes you want to carry. There are currently no file echoes.
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ADMIN (required for all nodes)
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NATIONAL SPELEOLOGICAL SOCIETY
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CAVERS DIGEST*
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CONSERVATION
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BATLINE*
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GENERAL
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MISSOURI VALLEY OZARK REGION*
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OHIO VALLEY REGION*
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TENNESSEE-ALABAMA-GEORGIA REGION*
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SURVEYING AND MAPPING*
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VERTICAL (ropework)
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DIVING (scuba caving)
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FidoNews 13-06 Page: 8 05 Feb 1996
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Roolz
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-----
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1) I do NOT have areafix or an equivalent set up, so if you send me
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a message of this nature it will be ignored. I can do a rescan
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for you if you ask me to.
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2) I currently make a mail run every Saturday, so it would be best
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to poll me on Sunday -- your mail will be waiting on hold for you.
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3) Please poll at least once a week.
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4) Do not hub the mail to others without prior approval.
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5) Don't be a jerk -- flamefests are mercilessly stifled.
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If traffic increases, so will the frequency of mail exchanges, and
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we might even get on the backbone. See the latest echolist in the
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CN_* section for more information. That is all...
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Gateways, Fido and Life
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by Bruce Bowman 1:231/710
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Time to Talk of Many Things...
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Re: Internet Killed the Fidonet Star
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Ronald, you hit the target. The only reason people call here anymore
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is because I offer free email access so friends can leave each other
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messages -- or to play a door or hog a file. Even now, I have a
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caller online who didn't even read my system news and instead made a
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beeline for Trade Wars.
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But I think you may have overlooked other reasons for why FidoNet
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may be crumbling. I believe that Planet Connect was the beginning of
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the end for FidoNet. Before PC, we had an interwoven *C and *EC
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structure that HAD TO cooperate to survive. Suddenly, every net was
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an island, and my own was no exception. NECs just downloaded off the
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bird, and the NCs started refusing to perform what I consider to be
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a duty of the position -- routing netmail. Many wouldn't even pick
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up FidoNews, and now there are times when even nodediffs lie musty
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and forgotten.
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The link was broken.
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FidoNet was once a community that stretched across the planet,
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dedicated to INFORMATION EXCHANGE, and populated by sysops who
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were primarily a bunch of techies. But with the advent of the
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"BBS-in-a-box," everyone could become a sysop. We grew beyond
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sustainability, and the camaraderie was suddenly gone. Sharing
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of information turned to flamefests. Internet or no internet, I
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believe we need to place the blame for the downfall of FidoNet
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squarely on ourselves.
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How to fix it? I have no idea, but I will tell you this...I put a
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Linux partition on my hard drive last night.
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Re: No more fidonet.org
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FidoNews 13-06 Page: 9 05 Feb 1996
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As usual, someone has performed a thankless job for years,
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performed it well, and had to get out of the business because a
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few people refused to follow some simple rules. Even worse, we
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have a [name deleted after thinking better of it] trying to kick
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him when he's down.
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Mr. Juda, thank you for putting up with us for all these years.
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I have never corresponded with you, but I appreciate what you
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have done. Be assured that the majority of us feel the same way,
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and will not lower ourselves to crying like a child just because
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we can no longer conveniently suckle at the tit of your
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generosity.
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Backbone Echo Changes [Nov-Dec]
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by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/16
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lisa@psg.com
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Summary of backbone & quasi-backbone echo changes during Nov & Dec.
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Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.
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diff (backbone.na + backbone.no) 05-Nov-95 ditto 31-Dec-95 [edited]
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Added to the backbone
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> 10TH_AMD 10th Amend., rights of the people and the states
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> APWORKS Support for Programs by Alberto Pasquale
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> BBS_DOORS Discussions of all types of BBS Doors
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> BEATLES BEATLES CONFERENCE
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> BOOKEM Book 'Em - Juveniles and the Law
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> CANADIAN_POLITICS A forum for discussion of Canadian Politics
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> CRAFTING_BAZAAR Crafting Bazaar
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> DOS_INTERNET DOS/BBS Internet Applications: KA9Q, SLIP_IT, Etc.
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> FOSTER Foster Care Issues
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> GRASSROOTS Grassroots Political Echo
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> HOBBIES Hobbies Discussion
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> HOCKEY_CARDS Hockey Card Collectors Echo
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> INTRACTABLE_PAIN Discussion of Intractable Pain
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> MOD_COUNCIL Discussions concerning the Moderator Council
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> NAT_FLEA_MKT National Flea Market
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> NEW Discussions regarding Army Specialist Michael New
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> NEW_WORLD_ORDER Talk of the 'New World Order' and the 'World Gov't'
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> PAUL_REVERE The Paul Revere 2AM Grassroots Conference
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> RANMA_1/2 Ranma 1/2 Discussion
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> RA_32BIT 32Bit RemoteAccess Discussion Echo
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> SIP_AABUS SIP_AA Business Discussion
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> TOTT_ROCK Rock Talk - Christian Discussion
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> TOTT_SOS Survivors of Suicide Loss
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> TREMOR_DISORDERS Tremor and Other Movement Disorders
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> VIA_SOFT Via Software Support and Discussion
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> XENIA Xenia Mailer Support
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FidoNews 13-06 Page: 10 05 Feb 1996
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Removed from the backbone or quasi-backbone
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< CNET (not in EchoList since 11/1/95)
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< TWIT Discuss policy as it relates to Network Twits
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o There are 801 echos in backbone.na [31-Dec-95] (up 43)
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o There are 44 echos in backbone.no [31-Dec-95] (down 19)
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o for a total of 845 backbone & quasi-backbone echos (up 24)
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Free Listings in the Telecommunications Directory
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by Nigel Allen (1:250/438)
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Free Listings in the Telecommunications Directory
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A Detroit publishing company, Gale Research Inc., is preparing
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a new edition of its {Telecommunications Directory}, which it
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describes as "an international descriptive guide to telecommunications
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companies, services, systems, and related organizations in the field."
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If you provide telecommunications services (data communications,
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cellular, teleconferencing, electronic mail, etc.) or provide
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telecommunications-related serices such as telecommunications-
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oriented consulting or legal services, you may want to get your
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company listed in the directory. There is no charge to be listed.
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Internet service providers are especially encouraged to get
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themselves listed. Associations and labor unions in the
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telecommunications field are also eligible to be listed.
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I will be glad to send a questionnaire for the directory to anyone
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who requests one, or you can obtain one by going to the Web page
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http://www.io.org/~ndallen/tdq.txt
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Nigel Allen, Toronto, Ontario, Canada ndallen@io.org
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http://www.io.org/~ndallen/
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Mr Juda
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Jerry Hindle
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1:123/4
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This article is aimed directly at the "so-called" mr cia....(notice
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the small letters there small man)
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You rant and rave about Bert Juda shutting down the internet gateway
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and say it is about time he "got out of the way"... This brings to
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mind 2 points right off the bat.
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POINT 1: Bert was never "in the way" to begin with. He provided (at
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FidoNews 13-06 Page: 11 05 Feb 1996
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his own expense) a service used by many in fidonet. This makes him an
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order of magnatude better then you could ever hope to be. You're not
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even man enough to use your real name....but then again I keep
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forgeting the fact that you are a "little man"
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POINT2: The fact that Bert had a gate up and running in no way stopped
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you from doing the same. There were/are gates all over fidonet into the
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internet. If you are so "good" at running a gate maybe you should have
|
||
already set yours up.
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||
|
||
In reality, you are probably a 12 year old "cereal-box-sysop" with a lot
|
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of free time on your hands, a big mouth, small brain, and an inferiority
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complex that is so big you have to use four letter words to feel wanted.
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|
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I think Bert Juda (and I "have" met the man) and a lot of other sysops in
|
||
this net would be just delighted to see you set up your "gate". I can bet
|
||
you won't and it won't be because you can't get an ISP that is not anal
|
||
retentive (like yourself), but because you lack the know-how, funds and
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your parents permission....
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Think this one question over long and hard kid.......
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If you set up your "gateway", are you capable of defending yourself
|
||
against all the lawsuits, gate crashers, assorted low lifes (like
|
||
yourself) and general abusers. I doubt it. I tend to believe that
|
||
your parents (you remember them....the folks that pay your bills)
|
||
would snatch the plug on you so fast your brain wouldn't stop
|
||
spinning for at least a month.
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|
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Tell ya what......set up your gate....I'll be more then happy to bring
|
||
your petty ego crashing down (along with your hardware) around your ears.
|
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Then, after you have had a taste of your own medicine, I'll give you time
|
||
to lick your wounds (along with your balls) and when you come back for more
|
||
.......you'll get it!
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|
||
Sign me
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Jerry Hindle
|
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1:123/4
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|
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(look it up in your nodelist...at least it is my "real name")
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