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F I D O N E W S -- | Vol. 9 No. 45 (9 November 1992)
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A newsletter of the |
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FidoNet BBS community | Published by:
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/ \ | "FidoNews" BBS
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/|oo \ | +1-415-863-2739
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(_| /_) | 1:1/1@FidoNet
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_`@/_ \ _ | editor@fidonews.fidonet.org
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| | \ \\ |
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| (*) | \ )) | Editors:
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|__U__| / \// | Tom Jennings
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_//|| _\ / | Tim Pozar
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(_/(_|(____/ |
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(jm) | Newspapers should have no friends.
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| -- JOSEPH PULITZER
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For information, copyrights, article submissions, obtaining copies and
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so on, please refer to the end of this file.
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ..................................................... 1
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Editorial: Wartime blues ...................................... 1
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2. ARTICLES ...................................................... 2
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There we go, again... <sigh> .................................. 2
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Mr. Clovis Lacerda lies ....................................... 5
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don't listen to him, Pablito! ................................. 6
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BBS to TNC Linker Software using FOSSIL ....................... 7
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Exclude killer-dog now supports RA/QBBS ....................... 8
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3. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .......................................... 10
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FidoNews 9-45 Page 1 9 Nov 1992
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EDITORIAL
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Editorial: wartime blues
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by Tom Jennings (1:1/1)
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I just got home from a four and a half hour drive. It's late, I'm
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tired and cranky. I peek in my inbound directory, and see what's new
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for this week's snooze. Surprise.
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Zone wars are soooo tired. They're really personality wars, held in
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public, at our collective expense, and seemingly unnoticed to the
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participants, to their own collective embarrassment. Especially for
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the repeat offenders.
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OK, here we go again. Boy oh boy, am I glad I worked at this problem
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earlier. To quote ARTSPEC.DOC:
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RESOLVING CONTROVERSIES: (v3)
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Occasionally FidoNews is presented with a dilemma: a "controversial"
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article generates a seemingly endless series of responses, commentary,
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rebuttals, etc, and threatens to overwhelm FidoNews. How to stop the
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stop the flood without violating the editorial policy? Here is the
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somewhat complex solution:
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If a particular article generates a cascade of responses, the editor
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does two things: (1) chooses one or few of them as representative; (2)
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passes them on to the original author, who is asked to write a
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response within 2 weeks. The resulting representative response(s), and
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the original authors response, are run in the next possible FidoNews
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-- ONCE ONLY. Interested parties can then pick up the torch and march
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with it off the long or short pier of their choice.
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All parties in the Z4 wars are hereby on notice.
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FidoNews 9-45 Page 2 9 Nov 1992
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ARTICLES
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Pablo Kleinman, 1:102/631
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Hollywood, CA, USA
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There we go, again... <sigh>
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Fight-o-News! Fight-o-News! Will we ever change? Once again, I am
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the target of flames. This time, of a 7 or 8-page-long article with
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too many flames and very few -i.e. zero- truths.
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I was expecting a desperate move like this from Clovis Lacerda,
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after all his political ploys failed one after the other. The
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situation here is simple: Clovis Lacerda wants to be Zone
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Coordinator. He has more or less effectively manipulated his region
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to assure this, but not the other regions. They won't vote for him,
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it seems, and he's grown more and more desperate with time.
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Clovis has been systematically attacking every person that in
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reality or in his imagination disagrees with him. This way, he has
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offended and ridiculed most of the rest of his zone, as well as the
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few people inside his region who dared to disagree with him. How
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would any sober mind vote for him now?
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Charles Hirakawa Miranda, founder of FidoNet in Brazil, the RC who
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allowed Clovis to succeed him, and one of the more honest and
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generous persons I've ever met through this thing, has been branded
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things like "traitor," "electronic Judas," and "dirty Jap" by
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Lacerda, who's been trying hard and long to curb all kinds of
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possible criticism by means of populist -political- rhetoric,
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propaganda -loads of it- and ultimately intimidation (threats of
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excommunication).
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Sergio Creimer, a relatively new sysop there, was naive enough to
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use the standard routing -i.e. all national/international LD mail
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goes through Lacerda's node, you guess why...- for a message in
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which he criticized his RC. Creimer was humiliated and ridiculed in
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public by a Lacerda who stated that routed mail becomes property of
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the node routing it while it's sitting there.
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I really can't get into replying to the full eight pages of flames:
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I haven't the time or the will to do it. However, some important
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points deserve to be clarified, and that is what I will get into.
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1) Uruguay:
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FidoNews 9-45 Page 3 9 Nov 1992
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Hector Gomez -an Uruguayan sysop in Argentina- and I worked to get
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Uruguay into FidoNet. Juan Camps, Hector's cousin in the Uruguayan
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capital, installed the first node with sponsorship from a large
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computer distributor there. Time later, Juan had to go offline, and
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his region, still in diapers, more or less died. When Gamey Garcia
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took over as ZC, he tried to contact them. So did I, and a coupla
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sysops in Argentina, without success. Uruguay was then erased from
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the list.
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After reading Clovis' comments of them still being "alive," I got
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in touch with Juan Carlos Alonso, who said that he's getting his
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mail from Randy Bush. Alonso never tried to contact the ZC, and
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those that knew of his existence didn't help him do it or tell him
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to do it; they didn't inform anyone else in Zone 4 either, so no
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communication was possible. Result: Uruguay will probably be back
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in the nodelist, thanks to myself and a few others in Buenos Aires
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who took the time to help them get back in touch with the world.
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What Clovis said is a lie: the Uruguayans never had a chance to
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vote for ZC or anything because they were then offline. Nobody
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kicked them out, they did it themselves!
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2) One-sysop, One-vote:
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It is not true that the candidate from the region with the most
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sysops will end up carrying the election in all cases. Actually,
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this wasn't true until Lacerda started sowing hatred throughout his
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region. When Clovis Lacerda ran against Gustavo Zacarias, there was
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at least one vote from Gustavo's region that went to Clovis as far
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as I know, though no votes from Clovis' region -Clovis always
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presents himself as his region's "official candidate"- went to
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Gustavo.
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I know sysops all over Zone 4 and I rarely noticed any objections
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in them to having a ZC in another region. The country problem
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started when Clovis and his gang started bashing the Argies on
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their regional echomail conference, reviving century-old prejudices
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at a time in which both countries are integrating their economies,
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their governments and militaries share all kinds of secrets and act
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more or less combined in foreign affairs.
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And as we talk about Clovis' gang -known in Rio as the "Xiitas,"
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Portuguese for "Shiites," because of their fanaticism-, the
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reference I made to the people of Brazil's northeast -where almost
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all of Clovis' support is- was very much distorted by Clovis. It
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had absolutely no racial content -there is no chance of it since
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it's not ethnically very different from the rest of Brazil- but
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referred to the popularly-known Northeastern xenophobia and
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nationalism. I have family and friends in Brazil, I know about
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Brazil's internal conflicts and I speak the language. I'm a "civil
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rights liberal" who couldn't possibly advocate a racist point of
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view, which is indeed all product of Clovis' imagination and
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opportunism.
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FidoNews 9-45 Page 4 9 Nov 1992
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3) Half-known facts and the imagined other half:
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Did I ever say Bill Bolton made any racist comments to me? No way!
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The only episode I made reference to was that of Ray Chalmers -
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Bill's successor as Z3C- calling me a Nazi in South America because
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I have a German -yet Jewish- last name. That was it.
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Were the election mechanisms in violation to Policy4? No way! It
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always asked that the person with the Policy4-given right to name
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whomever would occupy the position in discussion authorized a
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technically non-binding election and then formally appoint the
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winner. This was agreed by all the RCs in each ZC election, and by
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the ZC in each RC election.
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Did I ever promise a zone policy before an umbrella policy was
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approved? No way! It seems that Clovis waited for something that
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was never intended in the first place. The same with term
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limitations: it was never discussed, so how can he say there is
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something wrong going unless he's imagined the whole idea?
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Clovis once told his region's sysops that here in Zone 1 each node
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is financially supported by a corporation, which could only be a
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wrong deduction or an outright lie. Of course, he's now creating a
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corporation that will run another FidoNet-technology network and
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charge its member-nodes a fee to cover connection expenses.
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Although he has not made membership to this new net mandatory,
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international FidoNet traffic will be carried by this net and will
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only be available to paying members.
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Clovis has also said that he was technically prevented from being
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in touch with the rest of the zone, when he had actually told his
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region that he didn't want to do it -which is the message that I
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translated and posted, in which he also verbally insults the ZC and
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the rest of the zone as a whole in their backs.
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The pinnacle of all this nonsense is the suggestion that I'm in
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actual "control" of the Zone Coordinator and Region Coordinators in
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Zone 4. He's called me "PC Farias California-style," in reference
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to Paulo-Cesar Farias, the recently-impeached president's top fund
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raiser, head of Brazil's largest corruption scandal and currently
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Brazil's #1 public enemy. Give me a f___ing break!!! The only
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things I've done in relation to Zone 4 coordinators since I
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resigned as ZC are to answer some general FidoNet-related questions
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they posed, to help a couple out with MakeNL and to act as
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voluntary routing point for some of their netmail.
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I'm sick and tired of all this crap. I am not willing to take more.
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I've poured thousands of hours and thousands of dollars into
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FidoNet because when it all started back in 87, I dreamed of seeing
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the whole of Latin America online and integrated. But I have not
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ever lied or played "dirty tricks" like he suggests. Clovis Lacerda
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has gone beyond all acceptable limits with his attacks, and I will
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proceed to file a policy complaint against him -I sent him netmail
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giving him a chance to apologize and forget about this but he blew
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it. For once, I'm taking this seriously: I might be familiar with
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politics, but I'm even more familiar with telling the truth. I
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FidoNews 9-45 Page 5 9 Nov 1992
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value my name and won't let every other jerk out there defame me
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and get away with it.
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-Pablo
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pablito@fido.lu
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Dear Members of FidoNet:
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Through this text I would like to express my rejection and that
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of the members of my region (R90, Argentina) about Mr. Clovis
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Lacerda's the malicious and tendentious statements on his article
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in this week's FidoNews.
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His article is a manifest analysis of the fanaticism, politics
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and oppression with which he's been loading and leading his region
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during all these months.
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Let's go directly to confront his crooked charges:
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He says that when ZC elections were prepared, the results were
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known in advance because there was a majority of nodes in Argentina
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(in R90), which would leave no chances to his candidacy to the
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position.
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Reality is very different from that: one node one vote means
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that each node can vote for any candidate and not exclusively a
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candidate from his region.
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He says that Mr. Pablo Kleinman kicked the Uruguayans (ex-R85)
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out of FidoNet and it is not true!! I personally verified that the
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RC85's number had no mailer answering the phone for several months;
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moreover, the absence of region 85 in terms of net and echomail was
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complete during all that period of voluntary disconnection. That
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information was given to the current ZC4 for him to analyze and
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decide what to do.
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He also said that Mr. Pablo Kleinman made reference (to the
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Brazilians) as "ignorant because of their poverty"; false again.
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Mr. Kleinman declared in a message on LATIN.SYSOP that the areas of
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Northeastern Brazil were guilty of an "inferiority complex" because
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the majority of the nodes there were attacking the neighbors to the
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south (us), and that's it.
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It is evident that Mr. Lacerda misinterprets to his own interest
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the facts, and accommodates them to his own needs to promote
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disunion between his country (region) and the rest of Zone 4.
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In an opportunity, Mr. Lacerda threatened in the name of his
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region (the whole region, according to him) to leave Zone 4 and
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form another one if the zone does not comply with his requests,
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requests that only him says were pre-established. He has fed the
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Brazilian sysops with lies to make them believe he is telling the
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truth" Mr. Lacerda "deduced" that in this zone we had fixed periods
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for elections every year, knowing beforehand that there was nothing
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written or discussed about term limitations. He used this as an
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excuse to subsequently begin attacking the sysops in my region and
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to call them "authoritarian" when the only authoritarian here is
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FidoNews 9-45 Page 6 9 Nov 1992
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himself.
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This is all the sad, pure and exclusive truth that any other
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sysop in the zone that had access to more sources of information
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than just Clovis will be able to attest.
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I'm not seeking any type of recognition by stepping into this
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discussion now: my term as RC90 is coming to an end, to give way to
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another one, with a new RC (whom, by the way, is now being chosen
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by direct vote of all of R90's sysops). I am writing this article
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only because I consider that Mr. Clovis Lacerda has taken the wrong
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path, in an improper and erroneous manner, for an RC who had to
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have the priority of promoting unity and communication between his
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region and the rest of us around them, instead of pursuing his very
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own political agenda.
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The nodes in region 80 will have to reconsider who they wish to
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have as representative as it is now more than obvious that in the
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view of other regions, their RC is incapable of doing that
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appropriately and is technically, as reflected in the periodicity
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of the nodelist updates, a very bad RC.
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Billy Coen - Regional Coordinator 4:90/0
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In reply to:
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Zone 4 -The sound of the whistle, originally by Clovis Lacerda
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by jordi murgo 2:343/401
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Lleida, Catalonia (Spain)
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Dear SysOps,
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I just have read the long article which Clovis Lacerda 4:80/0
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wrote on fidonews # 9-44 about Pablo Kleinman former ZC4 now
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just 1:102/631. after reading every single word I would really
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like to open another point of view on that matter, of course I
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am not here to say if Clovis is right or not, as I say just to
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state another point of view.
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"in every realationship there are always a victim and an
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executioner, it seems like the victim here is Clovis who has
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been seriously offended by the executioner Pablo". I had the
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chance to personally meet Pablo Kleinman here in Spain at home
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this summer, he was not very much time here however this time
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was quite enough to start something which I consider a good
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friendship. in despite we disagree in the past on several fidonet
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related matters, we talked quite a lot about zone 4 and I think
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that every fidonet SysOp have the right to know about another
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version of the facts. I sincerely cannot believe most of Clovis
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Lacerda says in his article about Pablo, BTW. I believe that
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certain psychotic problem arise on someone's head. if not what
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kind of man can keep track of every movement done by someone
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else with the only purpose to attack him later? perhaps it is
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admiration? who knows.
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FidoNews 9-45 Page 7 9 Nov 1992
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I think I know enough about that matter to certify that all what
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I can see is clear manipulation to manage a political purpose,
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the thoughts of Clovis IMHO are reduced to:
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"since SysOps of one country will vote to SysOps from the
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country even being against P4, I am going to promote fidonet in
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here giving a node number to everyone around me in order maths
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do not fail this time and next one without any doubt *I* will be
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proclamed ZC4 and I will destroy `Dictatorship' established by my
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predecesors to save all my fellows SysOps. I know it is not very
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policy 4 compliant, but since it fills my needs it is fine, thus
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this way to apply democracy will not be ludicrous as it was when
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Pablo did it"
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It is clear that what Clovis want is to become ZC4, and it seems
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that Pablo is being an obstacle to him, I cannot understand how
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but Clovis seems to feel that way.
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Why Clovis accused Pablo to remove from nodelist all Uruguay
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region if it is not true? since I see Clovis is not very well
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informed, I will explain that Uruguayan SysOps one day simply
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stopped to do their Job properly and after several weeks of
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failure to communicate they were removed from Nodelist. BTW,
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Uruguay was formed by one Pvt system and just two SysOps. the
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reasons they are not in Z4? I think that ZC4 will be able to
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inform better than me on that matter.
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Resuming: I would like to bring all my support to Pablo
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Kleinman. don't leave words like those from Clovis discourage
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you, it's easy understand that it is what Clovis look for
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attacking you on that way, and if there is also quite clear for
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everybody is that the way Clovis play his Campaign was not very
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clear, all his comments are based on just hearsay, and
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fortunately it is not good enogh to convince all of us.
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Please Pablo keep working on WorldPol, if there is something
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sure in FidoNet right now, is that we need newer rules than
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obsolete P4.
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jordi murgo
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Fredric L. Rice, The Skeptic Tank, 1:102/890.0, (818) 914-9551
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BBS-TNC.LZH is a Door program which will allow the User <hack spit!> to
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call in on the MODEM and access the BBS systems Terminal Node Controller
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which is on a different serial port than the BBS. This is typically
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done on a FidoNet system which is Ham Radio related and who's SysOp is a
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licensed HAM willing to allow Third Party Access to the HAM Radio Packet
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environment from his or her FidoNet system.
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FidoNews 9-45 Page 8 9 Nov 1992
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Alternately, if the SysOp would wish to connect to the packet environment
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from a remote location through a MODEM, not allowing Users <hack spit!>
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to access the TNC, the SysOp could either apply a security level to the
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access of the Door or may employ the application of the BBS-TNC programs
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password facility.
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The way it works:
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Upon invocation, BBS-TNC reviews the configuration file which specifies
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whether a password is required to run the program or not and whether a
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HAM Radio Call Sign should be requested from the User <hack spit!>
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The program will ask for a password if required and then ask for a Call
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Sign if required. If access is granted, the program will configure the
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TNC with the Call Sign if it was required and it will also configure the
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TNS's ALIAS name to what's specified in the configuration file if the
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SysOp so desires.
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The TNC is checked to see if there is power applied at all times. The BBS
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is checked to make sure that there is carrier present at all times. The
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local keyboard maintains full control of both the BBS and the TNC, allowing
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complete control of the interface and the User <hack spit!> activities.
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The program uses a FOSSIL driver of your choice (not provided with the
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distribution file) so that buffering is performed, allowing uploads to
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be performed (within reason. Recall that your TNC is probably 1200 baud.)
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If there is no activity on either the BBS or TNC after 4 minutes, the
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program will exit and control will resume with the BBS.
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The program:
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As usual, the source code is provided so that if you wish to make any
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changes to the project you have the original source. A Turbo C MakeFile
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and Response File is provided as is a sample configuration file.
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BBS-TNC.LZH, 33K
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Fredric Rice, The Skeptic Tank, 1:102/890.0 (818) 914-9551
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The Exclude project now supports RA/QBBS message base systems and will
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be supporting Squish type message bases within a few months. This
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project scans through selected *.MSG EchoMail sub-directories or
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through selected RA/QBBS Message Folders looking for messages to
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either erase or MOVE to another sub-directory (for *.MSG type systems)
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or to another message Folder (for RA/QBBS type systems.)
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It will erase or move messages from individuals, to individuals, and
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from systems, depending upon the configuration file you create/modify.
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It has the ability to scan through the nodelist for specified keywords
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within the names of FidoNet systems and for specified nodelist Flags,
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compiling a list of system from which network mail should be erase or
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moved. (This is a feature which can be ignored entirely.)
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FidoNews 9-45 Page 9 9 Nov 1992
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[There are more features which would be too lengthy to delve into
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now.]
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The project is offered to automatically remove posts both from and to
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individuals within EchoMail conferences and to reject inbound network
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mail from individuals by either erasing it without ever having to be
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looked at or by moving it to another directory for the creation of
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automatic archives of hostile messages you wish to keep.
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Moderators and various gateways will find this project useful for
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extracting and/or erase of messages from individuals who have been
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ejected from the conferences they moderate or gate. Since ejected
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individuals typically draw messages long after they have been
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'deleted' from reality, the Exclude project can also erase messages to
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ejected individuals.
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Since some systems maintain a *.MSG message base as well as an RA/QBBS
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message base, Exclude will now accept a command-line argument which
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bypasses the 'FORMAT' command in the configuration file, allowing
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Exclude to be executed twice after inbound mail is tossed; once for
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*.MSG and once for RA/QBBS.
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Exclude version 3.1 is available from 1:102/890.0 as EXCLUDE3.LZH and
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is 42K in size. As usual, it comes with the source code as well as
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documentation and a Turbo C MakeFile.
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Fredric.
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FidoNews 9-45 Page 10 9 Nov 1992
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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ----------------
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Editors: Tom Jennings, Tim Pozar
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Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince Perriello
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"FidoNews" BBS
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FidoNet 1:1/1
|
||
Internet fidonews@fidosw.fidonet.org
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||
BBS +1-415-863-2739, 300/1200/2400/V.32/HST
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|
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(Postal Service mailing address) (have patience)
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||
FidoNews
|
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c/o World Power Systems <---- don't forget this
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Box 77731
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San Francisco
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CA 94107 USA
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Published weekly by and for the members of the FidoNet international
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amateur electronic mail system. It is a compilation of individual
|
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articles contributed by their authors or their authorized agents. The
|
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contribution of articles to this compilation does not diminish the
|
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rights of the authors. Opinions expressed in these articles are those
|
||
of the authors and not necessarily those of FidoNews.
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||
|
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Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
|
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copyright 1992 Tom Jennings. All rights reserved. Duplication and/or
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distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For use in
|
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other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or FidoNews
|
||
(we're easy).
|
||
|
||
OBTAINING COPIES: The-most-recent-issue-ONLY of FidoNews in electronic
|
||
form may be obtained from the FidoNews BBS via manual download or
|
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Wazoo FileRequest, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet.
|
||
PRINTED COPIES may be obtained from Fido Software for $10.00US each
|
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|
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mailed Air Mail. (US funds drawn upon a US bank only.)
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||
|
||
BACK ISSUES: Available from FidoNet nodes 1:102/138, 1:216/21,
|
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|
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|
||
|
||
INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via FTP from ftp.ieee.org, in
|
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directory ~ftp/pub/fidonet/fidonews. If you have questions regarding
|
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FidoNet, please direct them to deitch@gisatl.fidonet.org, not the
|
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FidoNews BBS. (Be kind and patient; David Deitch is generously
|
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volunteering to handle FidoNet/Internet questions.)
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|
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FidoNews 9-45 Page 11 9 Nov 1992
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|
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SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
|
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FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
|
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ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews BBS, or Wazoo filerequestable
|
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from 1:1/1 as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". Please read it.
|
||
|
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|
||
|
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"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
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trademarks of Tom Jennings, Box 77731, San Francisco CA 94107, USA and
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are used with permission.
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|
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Asked what he thought of Western civilization,
|
||
M.K. Gandhi said, "I think it would be an excellent idea".
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-- END
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