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Volume 6, Number 49 4 December 1989
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Editor in Chief: Vince Perriello
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Editors Emeritii: Dale Lovell
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Thom Henderson
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Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings
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FidoNews is published weekly by the International FidoNet
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Association as its official newsletter. You are encouraged to
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submit articles for publication in FidoNews. Article submission
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standards are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC, available from
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node 1:1/1. 1:1/1 is a Continuous Mail system, available for
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network mail 24 hours a day.
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Copyright 1989 by the International FidoNet Association. All
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rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for
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noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances,
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please contact IFNA at (314) 576-4067. IFNA may also be contacted
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at PO Box 41143, St. Louis, MO 63141.
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Fido and FidoNet are registered trademarks of Tom Jennings of
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Fido Software, 164 Shipley Avenue, San Francisco, CA 94107 and
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are used with permission.
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We don't necessarily agree with the contents of every article
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published here. Most of these materials are unsolicited. No
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article submitted by a FidoNet SysOp will be rejected if it is
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properly attributed and legally acceptable. We will publish
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every responsible submission received.
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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Well, it's finally over .................................. 1
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2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2
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User Convicted of Destroying Data Faces 15 Years ......... 2
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A Reply to Bob Moravsik .................................. 4
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Come to FidoCon 1990! .................................... 7
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3. LATEST VERSIONS .......................................... 9
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Latest Software Versions ................................. 9
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4. NOTICES .................................................. 12
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The Interrupt Stack ...................................... 12
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FidoNews 6-49 Page 1 4 Dec 1989
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EDITORIAL
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I'm really pleased to mark the end of the Great IFNA Election
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Campaign. Friday, December 1, was the final voting deadline.
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From what I have seen thus far, an awful lot more people, both in
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terms of raw numbers and percentage of the net as a whole, voted
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in this election than in the original one, a few years back.
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This is probably due mostly to the fact that the FidoNet
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Coordinators were so heavily involved in conducting the election,
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and that ballots were cast using electronic mail rather than
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"real" mail. Last time, not enough people felt strongly enough to
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buy a stamp. This time, there certainly were strong feelings. I
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feel that these emotions also contributed to the final turnout.
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Now we have to get on with things. Whether IFNA gets its fifty
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percent or not, it's time to bury the hatchet, folks. And not in
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each other. Let's clean up the burst bubbles and useless confetti
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and good intentions and bad karma and get back to the business at
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hand. It's time to get back to promoting the free exchange of
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information.That's the underlying reason for FidoNet anyway,
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isn't it?
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Try something novel. The next time you wade through your
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conference mail (of whatever flavor) and you come upon some
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postings from somebody you've really pegged as useless -- give
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that person a break for once. Try to reverse your roles. Look
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past the rhetoric and really do your best to see things from
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their perspective. Even if you find that you can't, try to be
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tolerant of their views. Ask questions of them. Maybe you're just
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missing one strand in the entire fabric.
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We're all in this boat together. Let's all work the oars instead
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of arguing over who needs to be tossed overboard.
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FidoNews 6-49 Page 2 4 Dec 1989
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ARTICLES
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User Convicted of Destroying Data - Faces Fifteen Years
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by Phil Buonomo, 1:107/583@FidoNet 520/583@AlterNet
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According to an article in the November 27th issue of PC Week,
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Richard March reports that Marshall Williams, a former cost
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estimator for Southeastern Color Lithographers Inc., was
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convicted on November 16th of using his former employers
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computer network to destroy billing and accounting data AND
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backup copies of that data, worth an estimated $400,000.00 in
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lost business and downtime.
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Williams, who faces up to 15 years in prison for his conviction,
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maintains that he knew nothing about the Athens printing firms
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XENIX operating system, and therefore could not have issued the
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commands to remove files from his terminal, despite the fact
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that a computer detection program written by Tim Plotner, a
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programming consultant for Computer Connection Inc. in
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Clarkesville Ga., traced the commands to Williams' terminal.
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A witness for the prosecution testified that Williams was at his
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terminal at least one time that the detection program traced the
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commands there. According to prosecutor Steve Jones, Williams
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motivation was "the pleasure of messing up the company."
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Those familiar with computer law feel that the conviction has
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broad implications for users of computer network system.
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According to this ruling, users who delete data can be
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prosecuted, whether such erasure was accidental or not. Since
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this is the first case were an employer was forced to prove that
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a defendant was "computer-knowledgeable", this case also
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challenges the legal defense of technical ignorance.
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Since this case introduced evidence created by a computer (the
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tracing data), it also raises the possibility that users of
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these networks could be framed.
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Plotner claimed that the possibility of someone modifying his
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program to frame Williams was far fetched because none of
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William's co-workers knew about it. But, Plotner added,
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tampering would have been possible if someone knew the program
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was installed and was familiar with the operating system.
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He also made it clear that the program only identified the
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terminal used to issued the removal commands, not the user
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himself. He said "We have been very careful here. We are not
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accusing Marshall Williams of doing something."
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FidoNews 6-49 Page 3 4 Dec 1989
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Williams said last week, "I want everyone who uses a computer to
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know about this. It's a bad dream."
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Further discussions on this topic can be found in the SYSLAW
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Groupmail conference, available at 1:107/583@FidoNet.
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FidoNews 6-49 Page 4 4 Dec 1989
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A Reply to Bob Moravsik
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by John Knox, 147/7
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* Originally to Bob Moravsik in area SYSOP
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I've been resisting reply this for weeks. I just can't handle
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anymore. I'm sick of your GONGS and every other attempt by you
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to totally destroy the FidoNet we know today or that we might
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have tomorrow. Your article in FidoNews made me almost throw
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up.
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I only have a few things to say:
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WHAT small godforsaken rock did you crawl out from under? I've
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been in FidoNet for 5 years and to this day I've never seen
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ANYBODY come up will more crap than you have. Not even the
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Rouster. Compared to him, you are anybody's worst nightmare.
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Compared to you, he is made of gold. At least he provided
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positive input sometimes. I have yet to see that from you.
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You have done more to destroy this net in the past few months
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than I've done in 5 years to promote it, and believe me, I've
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pushed it almost every day. Oh, you wonder where I've been the
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last few months? Helping people, like I always do. I have had
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no desire to participate in the battles being fought, since they
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are meaningless and a waste of my time. I can do more by
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helping people than fighting with them. I've run our net as NC,
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I distribute echos as NEC, not to mention doing whatever else I
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can to help any sysop in need. But I will not fight with people
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who are totally insane. It is just pointless.
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Most of your remarks about Deathnet are totally incorrect and
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inconceivable. I have conversed with Thom, Fabian and Phil for
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only the past year, but I met them for the first time at
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FidoCon, and they are NOT bad guys. They have an idea that
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could promote this net far into the future. Unfortunately it's
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the people like you who spoil the fun for everybody else. You
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have NOTHING positive to say about anything, only negative. If
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you are so damn smart, why don't you come up with a solution,
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instead of whimpering about everything. All you do is promote
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general discontent and anger, which we DON'T need at the current
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time.
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FidoNet started as a group of people with an idea to promote
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communications and to form a network. Back in 1985 when I
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joined, there were only 400 nodes and not many hassles to worry
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about. Everybody was excited about this amazing new concept,
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and we all worked our asses off to help each other out and make
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the net florish, because we supported the concept. As the years
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went on, more and more people joined, not knowing really why
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they were joining, but just to get on the bandwagon. The more
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people we got, the harder it was for everyone to agree on
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everything, but we still tried. Notice the word "tried". Have
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you done that lately?
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FidoNews 6-49 Page 5 4 Dec 1989
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IFNA was formed to attempt to provide some backbone, support and
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leadership for the net. Unfortunately, a few things went
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slightly wrong and suddenly it was the FidoNet flame for months
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to come. The net wanted somebody to lead us, but then they
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screamed because they weren't the ones leading. There were too
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many people wanting to be chiefs and not enough normal Indians.
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Everybody wanted to be President, but nobody wanted to be the
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blue collar worker.
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Today, we are in that same situation, but compounded tenfold.
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More widespread personalities, more people wanting control, and
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more people with gripes and complaints but no solutions. Have
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you ever proposed a solution? If so, I have never seen it, and
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believe me, I've seen every one of your messages for the past
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few months in this echo and many others.
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FidoNet is a concept. Without some leadership, the concept will
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die a bloody death. Without followers, there can be no
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leadership. If everybody wants to be a leader, there are no
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followers...just leaders arguing over who will be the "top"
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leader. That isn't a concept, it's a war just like the many
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this earth has already endured. Why do we need another war?
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Last few personal comments:
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In the past year, I have seen this net turn into one thing, and
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one thing only...a huge playground with hundreds of little kids
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running around starting fights and calling people names. This
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is exactly the scenario I see from my point of view. There are
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the few of us who stand back and stay out of the "games" because
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we have better things to do than petty bickering. I just wish
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there were more like our minority.
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Oh yeah...you keep griping about the FidoCon IFNA votes and
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such. You know where they are? Right here on this machine,
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safe from people like you who would only use them to start some
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other battle. I suppose you will flame me for that. I'm ready
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for it. It's called DEV>NUL.
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As acting secretary of IFNA at the Bod meeting, I watched the
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votes tallied. I approved the proxies and I oversaw then
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general agenda. I also sat through many many hours of Bod
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meetings watching a group of people with a fantastic concept. I
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took the minutes. I didn't say a word, because the Secretary
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can't vote. Nobody influenced me in any way. I didn't even
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know most of these people. I was an innocent bystander. I
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watched 20 people work their asses off and dedicate an entire
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weekend to form the ballot we are voting on now. Less than half
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were what you call DeathNet. The other half may not have
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originally liked the DeathNetters, but they supported their
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concept. That concept is DEMOCRACY. Call it what you want, but
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it is the ONLY thing that will keep FidoNet together today,
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tomorrow and far into the future. Call me whatever you want,
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but I know I'm right and you're not. That's all that matters.
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FidoNews 6-49 Page 6 4 Dec 1989
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I can tell you that each one of the people at those meetings
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have a GENUINE desire to make FidoNet grow and florish for the
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people of the world. They have NO DESIRE WHATSOEVER to "take
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over", "rule the net" and do the so many other things you keep
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accusing them of. The people there were ones who have been in
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the net for years. They are the ones who have formed this net,
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along with many others like myself. None of us have any desire
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to "rule" or "take over" FidoNet. If we did, we would and could
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have probably done it long ago. There is no benefit to ruling.
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We want to PEOPLE of FidoNet to rule it. Isn't that what a
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democracy is?
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Oh, and one last thing. If I were the host of the FidoNet Gong
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Show, and if you ever showed your face on stage, I would break
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at least 10 gong mallets and make numerous dents in the gong
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itself for the non-class act you have performed. You wouldn't
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last 10 seconds before you'd be gonged off the stage. I'm sick
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of your gongs, I'm sick of your attitude, and I'm sick of your
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whining. If you want something done, then DO IT, but stop
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calling names and defacing people when you don't even know most
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of what you are talking about.
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There. I've said my peace. It probably won't do any good,
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since obviously things go in one side of your head and
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immediately out the other side. Of course with nothing in
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between, what's to stop them.
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To Butch: I sincerely apologize for this outburst, but I was
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just about to explode. Don't worry about removing me from this
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echo. I'm gone. I have been here, participating only
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occasionally but basically in the background for 2 years, and
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there is just no point in staying when there are all the people
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like Bob M to contend with.
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To everybody else: I apologize to you too. You shouldn't have
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to read this kind of stuff. We should be here talking about
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constructive things instead of wasting our time arguing.
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Ah...the old days when we used to help each other instead of
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attempting to behead each other. Those were the good old days.
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I wish you all luck in your battle. I have made my YES vote.
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I know what I want in FidoNet. I only wish other people could
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have the same positive outlook and see it the same way.
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Cheers to you all!
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FidoNews 6-49 Page 7 4 Dec 1989
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Come to FidoCon 1990!
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by Jim Vaughan, 1:226/300, IFNA Membership Services Committee
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Well, the tabulations are in, and we've made a decision.
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FidoCon 1990 is hereby awarded to:
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Net 107, New York/New Jersey MetroNet!
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The decision was rather easy, actually. Since announcing that
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we were accepting bids for next year's FidoCon back in October
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(right here in FidoNews), we only received two bids, one for New
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Jersey (less than a week after the announcement), and one for
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Colorado Springs.
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While the guys in Colorado did a great job (and a big THANKS for
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their submission!), there were several good reasons for holding
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FidoCon in Net 107.
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o Net 107's proposal was more cost efficient. On a per day
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basis, their proposal was the most inexpensive in at least the
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three years.
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o Recent FidoCons have been in San Jose, CA; Cincinnati, OH;
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Arlington, VA; and originally, Colorado. As you can see,
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there's never been a FidoCon in the Northeast, while virtually
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every other area of the US has had one.
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o Net 107's proposal listed a number of activities that were
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designed around making the conference one worthy of being a
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family vacation as well as just a sysops conference.
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o Colorado's already had a FidoCon. While widely acclaimed as
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the 'best' FidoCon, it seemed unfair not to give someone else a
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crack at it.
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As you can see, there were several good reasons for awarding it
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to Net 107, and a good reason NOT to give it to Colorado, so the
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choice was really simple. It might not have been so simple if
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there were more proposals submitted, but it seems that there
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just aren't that many people willing to do the work. The Net
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107 proposal made it quite clear that they have the manpower,
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the drive, and the financial know-how to pull off the next
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conference.
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I'm sure there'll be lots of folks who'll claim that "DEATHNET
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STOLE FIDOCON". For those of you who feel that way, all I can
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say is,
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"Hey, man, where was YOUR proposal?" ;-)
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FidoNews 6-49 Page 8 4 Dec 1989
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In the next few weeks you'll probably be hearing from Bill
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VanGlahn, the Net 107 FidoCon committee chairman, on how to go
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about registering, activities, lectures, etc. Node 1/90 in zone
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1 is available for information, and will soon be changed to
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Bill's system.
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Well, if I can get up the bucks to make it to New Jersey from
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Ohio, I hope to see you ALL there next year!
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Jim
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FidoNews 6-49 Page 9 4 Dec 1989
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LATEST VERSIONS
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Latest Software Versions
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MS-DOS Systems
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Bulletin Board Software
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Fido 12q+ Phoenix 1.3 TBBS 2.1
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Lynx 1.30 QuickBBS 2.04 TComm/TCommNet 3.4
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Kitten 2.16 RBBS 17.2B TPBoard 6.0
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Opus 1.03b+ RBBSmail 17.2 Wildcat! 2.00P
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Network Node List Other
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Mailers Version Utilities Version Utilities Version
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BinkleyTerm 2.30 EditNL 4.00 ARC 6.02
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D'Bridge 1.21 MakeNL 2.20 ARCA05 2.01
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Dutchie 2.90C ParseList 1.30 ARCmail 2.0
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FrontDoor 2.0 Prune 1.40 ConfMail 4.00
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PRENM 1.47 SysNL 2.65 EMM 2.02
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SEAdog 4.51b XlatList 2.90 Gmail 2.01
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XlaxDiff 2.32 GROUP 2.16
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XlaxNode 2.32 GUS 1.20M
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LHARC 1.13
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MSG 4.0
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MSGED 1.99
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PK[UN]ZIP 1.02*
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QM 1.0
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QSORT 4.03
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StarLink 1.01
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TCOMMail 2.2
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TMail 1.12
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TPBNetEd 3.2
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UFGATE 1.03
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XRS 3.0
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ZmailQ 1.09
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Macintosh
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Bulletin Board Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
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Name Version Name Version Name Version
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Red Ryder Host v2.1b3 Macpoint 0.91* MacArc 0.04
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Mansion 7.12 Tabby 2.1 ArcMac 1.3
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WWIV (Mac) 3.0 StuffIt 1.51
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FidoNews 6-49 Page 10 4 Dec 1989
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TImport 1.331
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TExport 1.32
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Timestamp 1.6
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Tset 1.3
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Timestart 1.1
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Tally 1.1
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Mehitabel 1.2
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Archie 1.60
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Jennifer 0.25b2g
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Numberizer 1.5c
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MessageEdit 1.0
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Mantissa 1.0
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PreStamp 2.01
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R.PreStamp 2.01
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Saphire 2.1t
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Epistle II 1.01
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Import 2.52
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Export 2.54
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Sundial 2.1
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AreaFix 1.1
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Probe 0.052
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Terminator 1.1
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TMM 4.0b
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UNZIP 1.01*
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Amiga
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Bulletin Board Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
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Name Version Name Version Name Version
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Paragon 2.00+* BinkleyTerm 1.00 AmigArc 0.23
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TrapDoor 1.11 booz 1.01
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WelMat 0.35* ConfMail 1.10
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ChameleonEdit 0.10
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Lharc 1.00*
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The Interrupt Stack
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11 Dec 1989
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Deadline for local IFNA vote tally challenges
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15 Dec 1989
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Network Coordinators report votes in IFNA plebiscite to
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18 Dec 1989
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22 Dec 1989
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IFNA plebiscite results posted in NODELIST.356
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30 Dec 1989
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Telephone area codes (5, 3 and 0) are abolished in Hong Kong
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1 Feb 1990
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Deadline for IFNA Policy and Bylaws election
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5 Jun 1990
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David Dodell's 33rd Birthday
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5 Oct 1990
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OFFICERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION
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Thom Henderson 1:107/528 Chairman of the Board
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Les Kooyman 1:204/501 President
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Fabian Gordon 1:107/323 Vice President
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Bill Bolton 3:3/0 Vice President-Technical Coordinator
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Kris Veitch 1:147/30 Secretary
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IFNA COMMITTEE AND BOARD CHAIRS
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Administration and Finance *
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Executive Committee (Pres) Les Kooyman 1:204/501
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International Affairs *
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10 Courtney Harris 1:102/732 Don Daniels 1:107/210
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11 John Rafuse 1:12/900 Phil Buonomo 1:107/583
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12 Bill Bolton 3:711/403 Mark Hawthorne 1:107/238
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