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Volume 5, Number 40 3 October 1988
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Editor in Chief Dale Lovell
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Editor Emeritus: Thom Henderson
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Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings
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Contributing Editors: Al Arango
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FidoNews is published weekly by the International FidoNet
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Association as its official newsletter. You are encouraged to
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submit articles for publication in FidoNews. Article submission
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standards are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC, available from
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node 1:1/1.
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Copyright 1988 by the International FidoNet Association. All
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rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for
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noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances,
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please contact IFNA at (314) 576-4067. IFNA may also be contacted
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at PO Box 41143, St. Louis, MO 63141.
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Fido and FidoNet are registered trademarks of Tom Jennings of
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Fido Software, 164 Shipley Avenue, San Francisco, CA 94107 and
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are used with permission.
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The contents of the articles contained here are not our
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responsibility, nor do we necessarily agree with them.
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Everything here is subject to debate. We publish EVERYTHING
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received.
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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SEA & PKWare - Where's the beef? ......................... 1
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2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2
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My Two Cents Worth on PK vs. SEA ......................... 3
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3. COLUMNS .................................................. 8
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Let's YACK about The ARC Dilemma ......................... 8
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4. NOTICES .................................................. 10
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The Interrupt Stack ...................................... 10
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New IFNA Address for Orders and Memberships .............. 10
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Latest Software Versions ................................. 10
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5. COMMITTEE REPORTS ........................................ 11
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IFNA Treasurer's Report .................................. 11
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EDITORIAL
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SEA & PKWare
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Where's the beef?
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That's the question that's been bothering everyone recently.
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It all started around the beginning of the year when System
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Enhancement Associates sued PKWare. From the beginning, I've
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supported SEA mainly because I called SEA and talked with Thom
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Henderson. Not that many people were willing to do something like
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this. Why? I'm not sure, it sure seemed an easy way to get one
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person's version of what was going on quickly and easily. Why
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didn't I call Phil Katz? Mainly because I knew Thom from FidoCon
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'87. I'm not sure how much good it would have done anyway, for
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the past two weeks no matter when I call PKWare, I get an
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answering machine.
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What are my opinions on the two lawsuits between these two
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companies? Well, first off my opinions are biased. I consider
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Thom a friend and trust him. While I do not consider his words
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gospel, I usually accept most of what he says. In this matter, I
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believe that SEA was completely correct to sue PKWare.
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While I've learned a few new things about copyright law
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while looking into these lawsuits that I'm not entirely pleased
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with, I am capable of understanding why they exist. While many of
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us may not like some parts of copyright law we may discover upon
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looking into these cases, it is the law. There are procedures to
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follow in order to change these laws, use them if you feel they
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are unfair.
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Hopefully some of the articles in this issue will help to
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convince you over to my way of thinking. If not, so be it. I only
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ask that we take these messages out of echomail. They are
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accomplishing nothing and succeeding to excessively annoy many of
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us. Before you enter a message about the lawsuits again, take the
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time and read this edition, call those directly involved, obtain
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the documents from the courts, but STOP THE COMPLAINING AND
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WHINING!!! Echomail can accomplish so much, why make it
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accomplish nothing???
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Dale Lovell
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3266 Vezber Drive
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Seven Hills, OH 44131
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data: 216/642-1034
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1:157/504 aka 1:1/1
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ARTICLES
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[NOTE: Message modified by Tim Pozar on 29 Sep 88 13:24:02]
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From hoptoad!cogsci!SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL!KPETERSEN
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From: hoptoad!cogsci!SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL!W8SDZ (Keith Petersen)
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To: hoptoad!ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU!hoptoad!pozar (Tim Pozar)
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1988 11:35 MDT
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[For submission to Fido News special ARC edition]
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Both SEA and PKWare are likely to be in hot water soon. All we
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want is a PUBLIC DOMAIN archiving system which is immune to this
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nonsense! BTW, ZOO isn't it. It has a copyright and restrictions
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on distribution.
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DATAPOINT has a trademark (and has had it since the '70s) on the
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word ARC. As reprinted from a current Datapoint Manual:
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"Attached Resource Computer" is a trademark of DATAPOINT
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Corporation.
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Registered in the US patent and Trademark office.
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"ARC" is a trademark of DATAPOINT Corp.
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Any recent DATAPOINT document has this copyright/trademark
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statement, the document it came from was called "RMS SYSTEM
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ADMINISTRATION UTILITIES" DATAPOINT document Number 50928 Dated
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September, 1985.
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The "RMS Quick Reference Guide" Document No. 61017 contains a
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larger copyright notice.
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A person who is very involved with DATAPOINT and their ARCNET
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configurations said that the Attached Resource Computer is a
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combination of hardware and software, and in fact, they have a
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software program used with ARCNET called "ARC". He is very
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familiar with DATAPOINT, and said that he will be talking to the
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legal department at the DATAPOINT headquarters in Texas to inform
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them of the lawsuits currently pending between SEA and PKWARE,
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and determine if DATAPOINT wants to pursue legal action of
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their own.
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--Keith Petersen
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Arpa: W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
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Uucp:
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{decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz
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FidoNews 5-40 Page 3 3 Oct 1988
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John Herro
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1:363/6
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MY TWO CENTS WORTH ON PK VS. SEA
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In this controversy, neither side is 100% right, but I hope the
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BBS world goes with Phil Katz' new Shareware for several reasons.
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PKxARC is much, much faster than ARC. It also compresses some
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files more than ARC, because it considers Squashing as one alter-
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native. I'm a Shareware author, and I'm using a registered copy
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of PKARC to distribute my program ADA-TUTR, the Interactive Ada
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Tutor. I understand that the court order allows registered users
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of PKxARC to continue to use it indefinitely.
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I also understand that Phil Katz was ordered to change the file
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extension from .ARC, which he has done. After the first of the
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year, however, he can no longer distribute the program. He has
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to come up with another file compression algorithm. He expects
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to come up with a new algorithm that's superior to ARC. I'm
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looking forward to seeing his new program!
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Just as ARC has almost completely replaced older schemes like SQZ
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and LBR, I hope that Phil's new scheme will completely replace
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ARC and become the new BBS standard.
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SEA seems to be leaning toward commercial software. The only
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reason I won't buy a copy of AXE is that it's commercial and not
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Shareware. I'd gladly pay that much to register Shareware. I
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think Shareware is an idea whose time has come, and it almost
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completely solves the problem of software piracy. Even if SEA
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keeps ARC as Shareware for now, who's to say that further im-
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provements won't be commercial, as happened to Fido? SEA seems
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to be going in that direction. I prefer PK because I think
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there's a greater chance that future improvements will remain
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Shareware.
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If Phil's new algorithm is to become the BBS standard, a lot of
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software will have to be updated. Examples are BBS systems that
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can "look inside" archives, and "ARCMAIL-like" programs. Soft-
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ware authors should plan to update as soon as Phil Katz publishes
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his new algorithm. We changed file compression standards before;
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we can do it again.
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We want the FASTEST and BEST compression to be the standard. The
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PK programs have been faster and better than SEA, and I expect
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that to continue.
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FidoNews 5-40 Page 4 3 Oct 1988
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Thom Henderson, president
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System Enhancement Associates
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voice: (201) 473-5153
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data: (201) 473-1991
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Now That It's Over, What Did It Mean?
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Now that the dust has settled in the first shareware copyright
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case, it is time for SEA to make public the facts that many
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members of the shareware community deserve to know.
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For the record, SEA is a family owned business. Andy Foray, the
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company chairman, and Thom Henderson, the company president, are
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brothers-in-law. Irene Henderson, the secretary/treasurer and
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office manager, is Andy's sister and Thom's wife.
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As the creators, publishers and defenders of the industry
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standard ARC file compression format, we have always maintained a
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strong belief in a fundamental concept of shareware -- that
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shareware be distributed for free for all non-commercial use. To
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this end, we have never, and will never, charge for the use of
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ARC in a non-commercial environment. We also believe that full
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program sources should be available, at least to registered
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users, and we have always made the full ARC sources available to
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all users. We have also licensed a great many people to use the
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ARC sources in their own programs.
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We discovered that PKWARE had obtained our source code without
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obtaining a license. He modified that code so that the program
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ran faster and provided several other enhancements. However, the
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nuts and bolts of the program were done by SEA. That is called
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PIRACY, plain and simple. And this industry has no place for
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pirates.
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We tried to politely ask PKWARE to obtain a license. He
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ungraciously told us where to go.
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We asked our lawyer what we should do. He said we were bound by
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law to protect our rights to the trademark and copyrights on ARC.
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If we did not, then anyone could use the ARC trademark and
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copyrights. It is very much like a candy bar calling itself
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Hershey. If another company used the Hershey name without
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permission, you can imagine what would happen.
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Also, it should be noted that PKWARE did not live up to the high
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standards set by the shareware industry. He didn't make his
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source code available. He sought out our market and competed
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directly for our corporate market by using the funds he had
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received from non-commercial users (whom we would not charge!)
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He authorized ads with false and misleading comparison statements
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to run in the magazines we advertised in. And he placed those
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ads on the same pages as our ads. If we did not protect our
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investment in the ARC trademark, we would have lost our
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trademark, our market and our business. Furthermore, the
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industry would have been left in disarray, as two standards would
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FidoNews 5-40 Page 5 3 Oct 1988
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have emerged.
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So after Phil Katz told us he would not settle this case like a
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gentleman, we were forced to ask the courts to settle it for us.
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We didn't want to go to court. We couldn't afford the lawyers
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fees. We couldn't afford the time away from programming the
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updated versions of ARC that will work on other systems, such as
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Unix, Macintosh, and VM/CMS. And we couldn't afford to create a
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controversy in an industry that we helped to pioneer. We also
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couldn't afford to create ill will among users -- both our users
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and PKWARE users. But PKware left us no choice.
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Anyway, the case didn't get very far, thanks to the testimony of
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an expert witness, John Navas. He looked at the source code of
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both programs and found, lo and behold, that the PKWARE program
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was indeed a blatant copy of the SEA code.
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When Katz heard this, he called us directly -- bypassing the
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attorneys -- and said he wanted to settle.
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We were only too happy to put a quick end to this. We wanted the
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facts to come out. Unfortunately, Katz demanded that part of the
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settlement terms be kept under court seal. We agreed, and we
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probably should not have, but we did because we wanted to end the
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case quickly so we could get back to updating and improving ARC.
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Some of the terms are public: PKWARE cannot distribute the
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program after January 1, 1989, they cannot substantially change
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the program (though they can make bug fixes) and if they receive
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inquiries for the product, they must send out SEA literature.
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Also, PKWARE is prohibited from creating a new program that is
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compatible with ARC or PKARC.
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If those terms sound one-sided, then it only goes to prove the
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extent to which PKWARE felt that it had no legitimate right to
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its program. After all, why would he give up everything if he
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was right? He obviously was not above board in this case, even
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though the settlement terms said he was not admitting fault in
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any way (a standard legalese ploy).
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We are a bit perturbed that one of PKWARE's part-time employees
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obtained a copy of the sealed court document, typed it into a
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file along with numerous typos and loaded it onto several
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bulletin board systems. She also included her own biased,
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editorial opinion on the case and its terms. While we don't
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believe PKWARE had authorized this action, it obviously violates
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the sense of fair play that we have lived with, at Mr. Katz'
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request.
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Now we are faced with several problems.
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The bulletin board community has heard many comments by people
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who did not possess the facts of this case, and therefore made
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ill informed opinions. Those opinions seemed like fact because we
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did not respond to them while the case was in progress.
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FidoNews 5-40 Page 6 3 Oct 1988
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You are well aware that no party in a legal action can really
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speak his mind while the action is occurring. Because we didn't
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respond, people assumed that we were wrong.
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Well, we weren't wrong and we won't be silent any more. We have
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begun responding to the outrageous and outlandish opinions
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expressed against SEA. We realize that people came to the only
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conclusion possible, given the lack of reliable information about
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this case.
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We will respond to any and every comment about this case. We
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welcome questions and urge people to call us at our office. When
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the dust settles, no one will doubt our sincerity in trying to do
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the right thing.
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We'd also like to clear up a few basic misconceptions that have
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appeared on the boards:
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- SEA waited too long to take action.
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Response: The legal world moves slowly. First we have to be
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aware of the situation, determine that a violation of our
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copyright existed, try to settle amicably and then take legal
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action. That takes time.
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- SEA doesn't upgrade it's program.
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Response: We have updated the program nine times in three
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years. We have made it available for several other operating
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systems, such as OS/2 and CP/M. We will continue to upgrade
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the program to benefit all users on all systems.
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- SEA used the courts when it realized it couldn't compete on
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raw programming talent.
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Response: We have a very good program and one that is getting
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better. We wouldn't be the defenders of an industry standard
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if we didn't have programming talent to begin with.
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- SEA is a Goliath pursuing a David called Phil Katz.
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Response: Phil Katz is a not just a person. He is a
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company, and a big one at that. PKWARE is a bigger company
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than SEA, despite the fact we publish four programs. We
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calculate that PKware currently grosses almost $2,000 a day,
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or about five times what we do. We challenge him to make his
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audited figures public.
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- PKWARE must be a small company because we hear there are only
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three employees including his mother.
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Response: We applaud Mrs. Katz and wish her the best of
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success. We too are a family run company. Andy Foray and
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Thom Henderson are brothers-in-law and Irene Henderson serves
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as secretary/treasurer. We have hired a programmer and a
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FidoNews 5-40 Page 7 3 Oct 1988
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license manager. We didn't do this because we had a windfall
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profit, we did this because we needed to stay competitive and
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to serve new markets.
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- SEA should have pursued the case to a jury trial so a
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precedent could be set for the industry.
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Response: We wish we had the money to support our lawyer to
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take this case to a jury trial conclusion. However, we were
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eating hot dogs every night and had to take on outside
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consulting jobs to make ends meet. We needed to end this
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case before the legal fees devoured our company. Besides, we
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weren't out to crucify the guy -- we just wanted him to stop
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stealing our work.
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If there are more questions, be assured, we will respond to them.
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We have also issued a new policy statement regarding the
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licensing of ARC. It has been uploaded to the IBMSW forum on
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CompuServe, the utilities/archivers conference on BIX, and has
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been disseminated to other BBSes as well. The terms probably are
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the most liberal for any licensing policy for any software
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company. And if that isn't enough, give us a call and we'll see
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what we can work out.
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We welcome the opportunity to better serve the shareware
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community. We invite your comments and your suggestions.
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COLUMNS
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YACK
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Yet Another Complicated Komment
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by Steven K. Hoskin
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( STEVE HOSKIN at 1:128/31 )
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Episode 12: The ARC Dilemma
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Well, Dale, you asked for it. Opinions on ARC and the SEA/PKWare
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lawsuit(s). I'll TRY to keep it on one page.
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I understand SEA has considered ARC to be its trademark; SEA may
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have even registered such. That's fine, but my understanding is
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also that SEA has done nothing in three years to protect that
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trademark. I am given to understand that failure to take actions
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to protect a trademark leaves the bearer of said trademark
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subject to loss of rights to same.
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I understand that law recognizes that a trademark, even if
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previously registered and accepted, can become generic, and if it
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does so, the bearer of the trademark loses it. Monopoly, for
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example, has become generic in the sense that when the average
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person thinks of Monopoly they think of the game and not of
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Milton Bradley (or whatever company makes the stupid game).
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Therefore, Monopoly programs can be written without the authors
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being successfully being sued for trademark violation since the
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company that makes the game has legally lost the trademark; it is
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now generic. This fact has been upheld in at least two court
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cases. (1)
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Has ARC become generic? If not, I'd say it's virtually so now.
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What do YOU refer to an archive as? Most everyone I've ever
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known calls them ARCs. "Say, Steve, what ARC program do you use
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to ARC and deARC your ARCs?" "I use PKARC because it's TONS
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faster and saves more space, and if I need to I can still use the
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option to make ARCs that ARC can deARC." If that isn't generic I
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don't know what is. And THAT came from a REAL conversation.
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I don't mean to say SEA is wrong in this lawsuit (and I hear a
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second one has been filed), but one point stands out clear:
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SEA released source code to their shareware users, opening the
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door to duplicated procedures in other programs and virtually
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elimating SEA's ability to track down abusers of that source. I
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think this fact probably eliminates SEA's ability to say it has
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taken sufficient measures to protect "its" trademark.
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(1) Shareware, a magazine that discusses and hosts
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advertisements for shareware, freeware and public domain
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programs. I do not recall the edition or volume number.
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FidoNews 5-40 Page 9 3 Oct 1988
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FidoNews 5-40 Page 10 3 Oct 1988
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NOTICES
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The Interrupt Stack
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23 Nov 1988
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25th Anniversary of "Dr. Who" - and still going strong
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24 Aug 1989
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Voyager 2 passes Neptune.
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5 Oct 1989
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20th Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus"
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If you have something which you would like to see on this
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calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.
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Bob Rudolph
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Effective with this FidoNews issue all IFNA monetary transactions
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will be handled by our Treasure, Steve Bonine (1:1/11). Steve
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will deposit money and verify memberships for all IFNA Orders.
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The actual processing of memberships and filing of PO's will
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continue to be done by other individuals after the treasure's
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duties are completed. The administrative and legal address are
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now both listed as St. Louis. The forms at the back of this
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FidoNews refect this change.
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Latest Software Versions
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BBS Systems Node List Other
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& Mailers Version Utilities Version Utilities Version
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Dutchie 2.90b* EditNL 4.00 ARC 5.22*
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Fido 12h MakeNL 2.12 ARCmail 1.1
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Opus 1.03b Prune 1.40 ConfMail 4.00*
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SEAdog 4.10 XlatList 2.86 EchoMail 1.31
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TBBS 2.0M XlaxNode 2.10 MGM 1.1
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BinkleyTerm 2.00* XlaxDiff 2.10 TPB Editor 1.21*
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QuickBBS 2.03* ParseList 1.20*
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TPBoard 4.2*
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* Recently changed
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Utility authors: Please help keep this list up to date by
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reporting new versions to 1:1/1. It is not our intent to list
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all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity.
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FidoNews 5-40 Page 11 3 Oct 1988
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COMMITTEE REPORTS
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IFNA Treasurer's Report
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September, 1988
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Steve Bonine 115/777
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I was elected IFNA treasurer at FidoCon in August and plan to
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provide a short summary of IFNA finances in FidoNews each month.
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By the time I close the books, get the article to Dale, and it
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gets published, expect it around the middle of the month.
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This month's report isn't typical. The transition is not yet
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complete, so I'm not really able to provide my own report. The
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IFNA account in Hawaii is still being used, and Leonard Mednick
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has been generous in his help during the transition period. I
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hope to have things switched in time to provide a more normal
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report next month.
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The monthly data provided in FidoNews will be a summary. For
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those of you who want more detail, file-request from 115/777
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using the "magic name" of IFNA$. (I accept either type of file
|
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request, 23 hours a day.) This file will be updated monthly and
|
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contains the summary and detail data for each month. Detail data
|
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is provided in both a standard text file and in spreadsheet
|
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format. Analyze to your heart's content.
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There was considerable discussion before FidoCon about a
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committee to "oversee" the treasurer. After FidoCon, I posted a
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message in the IFNA echomail conference soliciting volunteers for
|
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this task. Either the message got lost, or none of the folks who
|
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were so willing to complain are willing to help. I have not
|
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received a single offer of help, or even a flame! If you are
|
||
interested in this aspect of IFNA affairs, please contact either
|
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myself or Mark Grennan (147/1) who is chair of the Administration
|
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and Finance Committee.
|
||
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And now, thanks to Leonard Mednick, a summary for August.
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RECIEPTS & DEPOSITS
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Membership fees 850.00
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Sales 180.00
|
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Interest earned 20.11
|
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||
TOTAL RECEIPTS $1050.11
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||
|
||
DISBURSEMENTS
|
||
Postage 43.80
|
||
Phone expense 301.89
|
||
Box rental 28.00
|
||
|
||
TOTAL DISBURSEMENTS 373.69
|
||
|
||
EXCESS RECEIPTS OVER DISBURSEMENTS 676.42
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||
FidoNews 5-40 Page 12 3 Oct 1988
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ADD BEGINNING BALANCE 4109.03
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|
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BALANCE IN ACCOUNT 4785.45
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FidoNews 5-40 Page 13 3 Oct 1988
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OFFICERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION
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Hal DuPrie 101/106 Chairman of the Board
|
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Bob Rudolph 261/628 President
|
||
Matt Whelan 3:3/1 Vice President
|
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Ray Gwinn 109/639 Vice President - Technical Coordinator
|
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David Garrett 103/501 Secretary
|
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Steve Bonine 115/777 Treasurer
|
||
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IFNA BOARD OF DIRECTORS
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DIVISION AT-LARGE
|
||
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10 Courtney Harris 102/732? Don Daniels 107/210
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11 Bill Allbritten 11/301 Hal DuPrie 101/106
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||
12 Bill Bolton 3:54/61 Mark Grennan 147/1
|
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13 Rick Siegel 107/27 Steve Bonine 115/777
|
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14 Ken Kaplan 100/22 Ted Polczyinski 154/5
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||
15 Larry Kayser 104/739? Matt Whelan 3:3/1
|
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16 Vince Perriello 141/491 Robert Rudolph 261/628
|
||
17 Rob Barker 138/34 Steve Jordan 102/2871
|
||
18 Christopher Baker 135/14 Bob Swift 140/24
|
||
19 David Drexler 19/1 Larry Wall 15/18
|
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2 Henk Wevers 2:500/1 David Melnik 107/233
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