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Volume 3, Number 45 24 November 1986
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Editor in Chief: Thom Henderson
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Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings
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FidoNews is the official newsletter of the International FidoNet
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Association, and is published weekly by SEAdog Leader, node 1/1.
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You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
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FidoNews. Article submission standards are contained in the file
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ARTSPEC.DOC, available from node 1/1.
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Copyright (C) 1986, by the International FidoNet Association.
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All rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted
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for noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances,
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please contact IFNA.
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL
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What's Up?
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2. ARTICLES
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Marketing Research Questionnaires
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WHO "COPYRIGHTED" MY ECHOMAIL CONFERENCE?
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The Brian Walsh Logical T's FRAUDULENT Contest
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MULTITECH 224EH
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Keep a Running Scoreboard on your system!
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dBASEIII Bible project
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Tom Jennings, Thrasher
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National Vietnam Veteran's Echo-Mail Conference
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3. COLUMNS
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Review of Boyan-C1 (a NEW term program)
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4. FOR SALE
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Magazine On Disk for IBM PC and Compatibles
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The Structured Programming Language for PC/MS DOS Dennis Baer
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5. NOTICES
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The Interrupt Stack
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Fidonews Page 2 24 Nov 1986
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EDITORIAL
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What's Up?
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I can't stand it. I've tried my best to be a good boy. Shortly
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after the conference in Colorado Springs several people told me
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that I should hold back and not express my opinions, but should
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wait for a general consensus to develop without me.
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But to quote the immortal Popeye, "That's all I can stands, I
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can't stands no more!"
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Right off the bat, yes, a great many mistakes were made, and I
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made my own share of them. What can I say? I don't really think
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that anyone really realized just how many seriously concerned
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people there are out there. I am quite pleased at the breadth
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and depth of feeling that exists in the FidoNet community, even
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though it may have been painful to experience at times!
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I suspect that quite a lot of us now realize that FidoNet (like
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much of the software that spawned it) is growing to be a far
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greater thing than anyone would have thought even so recently as
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this time last year. We are now being taken quite seriously
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indeed by many outside groups. We are coming to have a presence
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in the market and in the industry that cannot be ignored.
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And the International FidoNet Association, like it or not, is
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being recognized as the visible manifestation of that presence.
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IFNA is by no means ready for the sort of attention that is
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already being focused on it by the various trade publications,
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trade groups, manufacturers, and so on. But as time passes, we
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grow and we learn.
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Many people within FidoNet have expressed concern over IFNA.
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Will this legal fiction, this corporate person, that we are
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creating be what we want, or will it be a Frankenstein's Monster?
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I personally feel that it will help. The sysop has generally
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been a much ignored and much maligned figure, bringing visions
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(if anything at all) of hackers working away in their basements
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to bring about World War III. IFNA would give us a central
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source that the media could go to for information and advice,
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through which we could express our own opinion of the sysop as a
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dedicated volunteer performing a public service.
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Fidonews Page 3 24 Nov 1986
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ARTICLES
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Andrew Kanter
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Sysop Fido 101/301
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Can You Prevent a Nuclear War?
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Well, if you have every wondered what is really
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going on out there in the land of Star Wars and
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Multiple Independently-targetable Reentry Vehicles,
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nows your chance to find out... and do something about
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it!
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Fido 101/301 (The Beyond War/IPPNW BBS) is back on-
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line! Moved from Los Angeles to Cambridge, Mass, then
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on to Brookline, Massachusetts, Fido 101/301 is up and
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running 22 hours a day. The new phone number is (617)
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731-1575, 300/1200 baud.
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If you want to get more information about the
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prevention of nuclear war, or want to discuss the
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feasability of Star Wars with other concerned modem-
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users, call today. There are many articles available
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for t)yping or d)ownloading, ranging from interviews
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with Nobel Laureates to opinion articles by your
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average college student. Want to hear what the
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International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear
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War have to say about Chernobyl or the summit? Tired
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of not finding solutions to this ultimate problem?
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Call and check out the articles by Dr. Lown, Beyond
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War, and others!
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If you are interested in seeing a list of available
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files, simply fidomail a message to Sysop of 101/301
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and I will send it out to you. Later, if you would
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like some of them, maybe we can arrange to have them
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arced and sent along too. What better way to help
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prevent the Last Epidemic then spreading the word by
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sharing these important articles!
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Many of you carried some of these articles at one
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time (when the BBS was in L.A.). Now is the time to
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"renew your subscription"! Send a message today!
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And if you are interested in medical issues, the
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latest updates on AIDS, radiation, and the flu, you can
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get them from 101/301 too. Remember, that's:
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( 6 1 7 ) 7 3 1 - 1 5 7 5
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Call today! Yes, you CAN make a difference!
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Fidonews Page 4 24 Nov 1986
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Review of FlickerFree 11/2/86
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D. Ellison
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Fido 18/4
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FlickerFree, A User Review
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FlickerFree is a memory resident utility to "dramatically
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increase text display performance". This it does...remarkably.
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Some of the other claims made in the advertising is not quite as
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accurate. The program was tested on an IBM-PC under PC-DOS 3.1.
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The quotes come from their current advertising.
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"DRAMATICALLY INCREASE TEXT DISPLAY PERFORMANCE".
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The program delivers! Scrolling speed with the DIR command is
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truly impressive. Also the TYPE command scrolls the file with
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dizzying speed. Not mentioned is that if you use the MORE filter
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when typing the file to screen, FlickerFree is disabled so you
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lose the speed advantage. This limits the usefullness of the
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program.
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"ELIMINATES THAT ANNOYING SCROLLING FLICKER".
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It's true, the flicker is gone completely. If you don't mind
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flicker, you can speed scrolling even more by selecting a faster
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scrolling mode from the FlickerFree menu.
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"CONTROL DOS FOREGROUND AND BACKGROUND COLORS"
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Again, the program does allow easy selection of screen colors as
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long as FlickerFree is on. What isn't mentioned is that it
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disables the ANSI.SYS driver. If you use imbedded codes in files
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or if you call any bulletin boards that use them, you'll see the
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escape codes and not the colors.
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"100% COMPATIBLE WITH ALL PCs, COMPATIBLES, AND WITH ALL OTHER
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MEMORY RESIDENT UTILITIES"
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The program falls down a bit on this one. The documentation
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states that it isn't compatible with PC-WRITE or SMARTCOMM.
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Oddly enough, the documentation that came with FlickerFree
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describing the incompatibility with PC-WRITE is dated June 86 but
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their October ads still claim 100% compatibility. They provide
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another program that will automatically disable any incompatible
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program if their FFIX.COM is run first against the incompatible
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program. There is a problem, though. If you do as they say and
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FFIX ED.EXE, then run ED.EXE (PC-WRITE's editor) PC-WRITE runs
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normally until you try to use the DOS shell within PC-WRITE. You
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can go to DOS but the machine locks up when you EXIT back to
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PC-WRITE. You can turn FlickerFree off by typing FF off at the
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command line but the program seems to remain in memory. Even
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with FlickerFree off, I lost a document when trying to exit
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PC-WRITE. Even worse than the problem with PC-WRITE is that the
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program seems to have difficulty with Fido. I found Fido would
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crash unpredictably after FlickerFree had been loaded. Each
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time, this required a cold boot. Unfortunately, cold boots with
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a hard disk can cause data loss because the heads aren't parked.
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I spent the afternoon reformatting my hard disk.
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The ad quotes Peter Norton in his 6-86 PC Magazine article
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Fidonews Page 5 24 Nov 1986
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claiming FlickerFree "...solves several problems that muck up
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display screens: snow, flicker, and lack of speed...". When you
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read the documentation, they claim Peter Norton was mistaken when
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he said the program eliminates snow. It seems a bit misleading
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to quote someone about your program when you clearly know him to
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be mistaken.
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"FULL, MONEY-BACK, SATISFACTION GUARANTEE"
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I sent them their program back for a refund. This guarantee
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makes the program well worth a try. If you are annoyed by the
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flicker and slow pace of your display, FlickerFree may be the
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answer. If you run a Fido BBS or use PC-WRITE, you'll want to
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keep their satisfaction guarantee in mind.
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FlickerFree $39.95
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Gibson Research Corporation
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9 Lago Sud
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Irvine, Ca 92715
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(714) 854-1520
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Fidonews Page 6 24 Nov 1986
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Dear Sysops,
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As a senior at Franklin Pierce College in Rindge, New
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Hampshire, I am majoring in Marketing, within the Division of
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Business Administration. In order to graduate, each business
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student must complete an independent study project which results
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in the completion of research and the writing of a formal
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research paper. This thesis must be defended before the faculty
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and administration of the college.
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The thesis topic I have chosen is Fidonet. I am
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investigating its marketing potential and as part of that
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investigation, I also need to identify and quantify the various
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types of users of FIDONET. I have therefore designed two
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questionnaires - one for sysops and one for users. Your
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assistance is urgently needed in order to obtain this
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information.
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The first questionnaire is for sysops. Please use your word
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processor to answer the questions and return it to me via 101/27
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(Dave's Fido in Gardner, MA) under the name Lyndalee Foster, or
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simply print it out and send the completed survey to:
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Lyndalee Foster
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P.O. Box 360
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Franklin Pierce College
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Rindge, NH 03461
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It would also be very helpful if you could send me a file
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which simply contains the opening screens and menus on your
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system.
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The survey for users follows the survey for sysops. Please
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make it available to all your users as is. Directions to the
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user describe the purpose of the study and how they should
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respond.
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Please try to respond by November 20 as the results are
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urgently needed in order for me to complete my thesis on time.
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The results of the survey have to be coded, tabulated, analyzed,
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and reported in the thesis by December 3. I have tried to obtain
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||
this information through public sources but so far without
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||
success. If you know of any sources which address the questions
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||
which are in my survey, please let me know. Since I have been
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unable to find the information, I would be most appreciative if
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you could help me.
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Thank-you for your time and consideration.
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Sincerely,
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Lyndalee Foster
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Fidonews Page 7 24 Nov 1986
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QUESTIONNAIRE FOR SYSOPS
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PART I
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Please fill out these questions in the method indicated by each
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question as honestly as possible to insure the validity of the
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questionnaire.
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1. How long (years, months) have you been a sysop?
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2. What comprises your message section? (for example, FIDONET
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mail, messages to/from sysop, ect.)
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3. Please list other features that you offer on your system
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below (such as type of files).
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4. How do you finance your Fido operation?
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a. suggested fee of $__________ (1)
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b. manditory fee of $__________ (2)
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c. charge only for Fidomail (3)
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d. other______________________________________________ (4)
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5. Approximately, how many current users (i.e. active within the
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last six months) do you have on your Fido?
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6. The overwhelming majority of users on most systems seem to
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be male. What would you estimate is the percentage of users
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who are female on your system?
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7. What options do you feel could be added to Fido to increase
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its usage?
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PART II - BASELINE QUESTIONS
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The following are background questions for classification
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purposes. Please mark or fill in the appropriate blank to
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answer the questions as accurately as possible.
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1. What is your sex?
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2. How old are you?
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3. What is your marital status?
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Fidonews Page 8 24 Nov 1986
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4. Do you operate your system out of your home or from an
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office?
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5. On what type of computer is your system operated?
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6. How many years of school have you completed? (e.g.
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highschool graduate equaling 12 years)
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7. What is your current or most recent occupation?
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**The results of this survey will be reported in a future
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newsletter.**
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Fidonews Page 9 24 Nov 1986
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To All Fido Users:
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As a senior at Franklin Pierce College in Rindge, New
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Hampshire, I am majoring in Marketing, within the Division of
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Business Administration. In order to graduate, each business
|
||
student must complete an independent study project which results
|
||
in the completion of research and the writing of a formal
|
||
research paper. This thesis must be defended before the faculty
|
||
and administration of the college.
|
||
|
||
The thesis topic I have chosen is Fidonet. I am
|
||
investigating the marketing potential of FidoNet. As part of that
|
||
investigation, I also need to identify and quantify the various
|
||
types of users of FIDONET.
|
||
|
||
Please use your word processor to answer the questions
|
||
and return it to me via 101/27 (Dave's Fido in Gardner, MA) under
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the name Lyndalee Foster, or simply print it out and send the
|
||
completed survey to:
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||
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Lyndalee Foster
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P.O. Box 360
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Franklin Pierce College
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Rindge, NH 03461
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||
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Please try to respond by November 20 as the results are
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||
urgently needed in order for me to complete my thesis on time.
|
||
The results of the survey have to be coded, tabulated, analyzed,
|
||
and reported in the thesis by December 3. I have tried to obtain
|
||
this information through public sources but so far without
|
||
success. If you know of any sources which address the questions
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||
which are in my survey, please let me know. Since I have been
|
||
unable to find the information, I would be most appreciative if
|
||
you could help me.
|
||
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Thank-you for your time and consideration.
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Sincerely,
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Lyndalee Foster
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Fidonews Page 10 24 Nov 1986
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FIDO USERS QUESTIONNAIRE
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PART I
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The following is a questionnaire dealing with your usage of FIDO
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and other bulletin board services. Please fill out these
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questions in the method indicated by each question as honestly as
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possible to insure the validity of the questionnaire.
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||
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||
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1. How often do you access Fido?
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a. every day (1)
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b. more than once a week (2)
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c. more than once a month (3)
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2. What options do you utilize most on Fido (for example, e-
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mail, uploading and downloading programs, Echomail, bulletin
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board, etc)?
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3. What options would you like to see added to Fido?
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4. Do you subscribe to other systems?
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a. yes (1)
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b. no (2)
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5. What system, other than FIDO, if any, do you use most often?
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(Compuserve, The Source, MCI Mail, etc.)
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6. What options do you use from the other system, for example,
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e-mail, bulletin boards, uploading or downloading programs,
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etc?
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||
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7. How often do you use the other system?
|
||
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a. every day (1)
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b. more than once a week (2)
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c. more than once a month (3)
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8. Are there any other systems to which you subscribe?
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9. How did you first hear about Fido?
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||
|
||
|
||
|
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PART II - BASELINE QUESTIONS
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||
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||
The following are background questions for classification
|
||
purposes. Please mark or fill in the appropriate blank to
|
||
answer the questions as accurately as possible.
|
||
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Fidonews Page 11 24 Nov 1986
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1. What is your sex?
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a. male (1)
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b. female (2)
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2. How old are you?
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a. under 18 (1)
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b. 19-30 (2)
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c. 31-40 (3)
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d. 41-50 (4)
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e. 51+ (5)
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3. What is your marital status
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a. married (1)
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b. single (2)
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4. Do you own a home computer?
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a. yes (1)
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b. no (2)
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5. If yes to question 4, what type of system do you own?
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6. How many years of school have you completed? (e.g.
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high school graduate equals 12 years)
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7. What is your current or most recent occupation?
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**The results of this survey will be reported in a future
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newsletter.**
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Fidonews Page 12 24 Nov 1986
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Robert E. Spivack
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Sysop Spiv's Fido 143/3
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Sillicon Valley Net 143 Host
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(408) 247-3296
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Greetings fellow Sysops and Fido Users. It has been a while
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since I last wrote a column for Fidonews, but so much is going on
|
||
it is time to comment.
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|
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I. Mark Welch's problems with PC-SIG (tm): Mark -- I support
|
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your position and hope that you plan to put your education (U.C.
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Law) to work ASAP to fight those *@$@%%#! (I recall reading
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somewhere you were now attending law school.)
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II. Commercial Fidonet: I don't care what you call it, how you
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structure it, whether the goals are noble or not, but FORCING any
|
||
kind of charge for Fidonet (being in the nodelist, being serviced
|
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by a national or regional host, etc.) just isn't a hobby anymore.
|
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|
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Instead of worrying about some Fido's (SUCH AS MINE) that might
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||
drop out and how that would affect the net, why don't all you
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money-hungry anti-hobbiests JUST DROP OUT NOW AND FORM YOUR OWN
|
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COMMERCIAL NET IN THE FIRST PLACE! (How's that for turning the
|
||
tables with an interesting suggestion)
|
||
|
||
III. Commercial tag-along "points": A recent Fidonews (#339, I
|
||
think) carried a proposal for extending the hierarchical routing
|
||
beyond zone:net/node to include subnodes called points. Although
|
||
I think the motivation is wrong (to faciliate commercial nodes
|
||
and payments) the concept of "points" is interesting.
|
||
|
||
I would like to propose an alternate use. "Points", or
|
||
degenerate nodes, could be used for individuals that want to link
|
||
to the Fido network but do not want to set themselves up as
|
||
nodes. Essentially, these are casual users that might be online
|
||
for several weeks, disappear for a month or two, etc. "Points"
|
||
are maintained only by the local node as private extentions to
|
||
the nodelist (That is already possible using the XLATLIST option
|
||
for a private nodelist.)
|
||
|
||
The real value of "points" is that it allows someone (Shareware
|
||
authors, are you listening?) to create a single-user simplified
|
||
Fido package that simply allows a user to create Fidonet messages
|
||
offline and send/receive them to/from their supporting node.
|
||
This creates a form of electronic mail where "points" are
|
||
primarily involved with sending messages to/from other Fido users
|
||
(either normal nodes or other "points").
|
||
|
||
The key is that the supporting node HOLDS all mail for the
|
||
"point" until the "point" calls (polls) to receive it. Since
|
||
this mini Fido program is limited in function, it would be small
|
||
enough to fit on a floppy disk and be usable with a
|
||
portable/laptop computer, maybe even implemented on a Z80 machine
|
||
like the Tandy 100, etc.
|
||
|
||
Finally, since "points" are users without the responsibility of
|
||
Fidonews Page 13 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
having their nodes up 24 hours a day (or even every day at
|
||
Fidomail time), anyone that wants to join Fidonet but doesn't
|
||
have the time, money, dedicated phone line, or discipline can
|
||
still participate rather than join as a full fledged node and be
|
||
counted among the "missing, lost dogs, or disappearing" nodes.
|
||
|
||
Just like the original proposal, the real benefit/simplification
|
||
of "points" is that the list of them is not compiled and
|
||
circulated with the nodelist. "Points" are like real Ma Bell
|
||
phone numbers, you gotta know them to call them and any "Phone
|
||
Books" available are published as a favor, not a requirement.
|
||
(I.E. users can voluntarily exchange their "point" addresses
|
||
and/or publish their own phone directories, but the operation of
|
||
Fidonet and "points" does not REQUIRE it. Thus, no additional
|
||
overhead to IFNA, Fido 1/0, et. al.)
|
||
|
||
IV. Echomail - I must admit, although quite technical myself,
|
||
I've waited too long and only recently started joining this
|
||
FANTASTIC facility. I'm glad that ideas are being generated for
|
||
bringing order to this wildly growing feature and at the risk of
|
||
covering ground that may already have been discussed, let me
|
||
propose a few simple things:
|
||
|
||
A controlled list of Echomail conferences should be compiled and
|
||
distributed on a weekly basis listing the name of the conference,
|
||
the conference coordinator, and a short description. This may or
|
||
may not be distributed WITH the weekly nodelist update.
|
||
|
||
A more formal acknowledgement of a second kind of Echomail
|
||
capability should be made. I'll coin the term "Broadcast" mail
|
||
to refer to the desire for one user or Sysop or send a message to
|
||
many systems and have the message "tossed" into a specific
|
||
message area. The easiest example is trading/selling something
|
||
we no longer want. If I want to sell a hard disk, modem board,
|
||
or even a bicycle, I would like to broadcast (should I say
|
||
carefully execute a "bombing run") to many boards and have the
|
||
message appear in an area reserved for it. Most likely, many of
|
||
us have a message area called "FORSALE".
|
||
|
||
All that is needed is for the most common ones (For Sale, Wanted,
|
||
Gossip, News, etc.) to be assigned standard NAMES and have a list
|
||
compiled showing which nodes have them. Thus, a Robot-like
|
||
utility could then send Fidonet mail only to those nodes that
|
||
have a message area (an implicitly then are saying its ok to
|
||
forward the message to me) on that topic.
|
||
|
||
Note that the default Fidonet area is a degenerate case. We all
|
||
know we can send a message to any Fido and have it be received in
|
||
its Fidonet message area, however, many systems restrict the
|
||
Fidonet area to only certain classes of users.
|
||
|
||
V. Fido enhancements - Boy, we all have lots of ideas here, I'll
|
||
try to restrict myself to a few things which may benefit a lot of
|
||
Sysops. Again, I apologize if some of these are already being
|
||
addressed by the next revision or have already been shot down.
|
||
|
||
Fidonews Page 14 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
International - I hope the "country" stuff will make Fidonet
|
||
smarter and simply refuse to deliver mail directly to a node that
|
||
has an incompatible modem. Right now, it is up to the Sysop to
|
||
manually remember which systems just can't receive using US Bell
|
||
std modems. I know that I would spare the $$ to dial up our non-
|
||
US friends, it is the modems, not the bucks that is keeping the
|
||
ocean a barrier for many of us.
|
||
|
||
Nodelist Processing - It seems strange to me that the
|
||
NODELIST.IDX file is bigger than the NODELIST.BBS itself. It
|
||
might be interesting to include parameters inside Fido itself
|
||
that obsolete the XLATLIST stuff. I mean, instead of batch
|
||
converting canonical phone numbers to local dialing codes, etc.
|
||
why not just include the parameters inside Fido (or via a control
|
||
file) so that Fido converts a phone number on the fly when it
|
||
uses it to dial. It would only take less than a second to
|
||
convert one phone number in real time, rather than forcing us to
|
||
endure ever-longer xlatlist,routegen sessions.
|
||
|
||
Independent Message and File Areas - I think the original
|
||
thinking for having each SYSTEMnn.BBS file describe a message and
|
||
a file area needs a revision. I know that many Fidos do not have
|
||
pairs of areas. (I.E. very few Fidos actually have a UNIX
|
||
message area with a UNIX file area; a DOS message area with a DOS
|
||
file area; etc.) This pairing makes setting privileges very
|
||
difficult because often you want to disable access to a message
|
||
area but allow access to the file area. Right now, you've got to
|
||
juggle them around and re-pair up different areas to get around
|
||
this.
|
||
|
||
User Privileges by Area - One of the biggest suggestions I keep
|
||
hearing is to enlarge the USER password file to allow specifying
|
||
for each user which file or message areas they can access. This
|
||
would provide a much richer more granular way to control the
|
||
system. Right now, all you can do is define classes of users
|
||
(twit, normal, extra, sysop, etc.) and then assign class
|
||
attributes to file/message areas. Today, you can't have two
|
||
users each the same class (normal or extra) with each one
|
||
restricted to DIFFERENT message areas. (Note: Since there can
|
||
be up to 99 areas, a reasonable restriction might be to only
|
||
allow room for 10 or 20 areas that can be controlled this way)
|
||
|
||
Whew! and I thought all I was gonna write was two sentences..!
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Fidonews Page 15 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
WHO "COPYRIGHTED" MY ECHOMAIL CONFERENCE?
|
||
by J. Brad Hicks, Sysop 100/523 (WeirdBase)
|
||
|
||
I have now seen the following in almost every Echomail conference
|
||
that I participate in, including the one I created:
|
||
_________________________________________________________________
|
||
|
||
#165 02 Nov 86 21:45:00 (PRIVATE)
|
||
From: Thomas Gentry To: All
|
||
Subject: LEGAL NOTICE
|
||
|
||
This ECHO area Copyright 1986 by Thomas Gentry All rights
|
||
reserved. All electronically transmitted messages in this area
|
||
become the sole property of Thomas Gentry and the CHAI Way BBS
|
||
(c) 1986. A limited license is granted to sysops and users to
|
||
utilize this information freely. ANY attempts at regulating the
|
||
exchange of this copyrighted material will result in legal action
|
||
against the offending party or parties.
|
||
|
||
Contact: IFNA node - 136/200 (IFNA-(c)1986 International
|
||
Fido Net Association)
|
||
TECHNET node - 950/200 (TECHNET-(c)1986 Mike Johnson)
|
||
for more information.
|
||
--- v1.36
|
||
* Origin: (c) 1986 CHAI_Way_OPUS (512) 388-3464 (136/200)
|
||
_________________________________________________________________
|
||
|
||
Sounds like a joke, doesn't it? This guy can't possibly be
|
||
trying to assert prior claim over the Echomail conference I
|
||
founded, can he? Well, I've been trying for a while now to get
|
||
through to Mr. Gentry, and he has yet to reply to ANY of my
|
||
messages on the subject in the Echomail areas where the offense
|
||
took place. And that's close enough to a legal notice that I'm
|
||
worried.
|
||
_________________________________________________________________
|
||
|
||
I, Brad Hicks, sysop of Fido 100/523, renounce the copyright no-
|
||
tice excerpted above. Thomas Gentry is a newcomer to the con-
|
||
ference, and cannot demonstrate ANY WAY in which he has contri-
|
||
buted to the concept, creation, or operation of the MAGICK
|
||
Echomail conference prior to the entry of this message. Further,
|
||
existing documents, both paper and electronic, verify that I,
|
||
along with Josh Gordon (sysop of Fido 161/93) and Dave Rene
|
||
(sysop of Fido 101/27, aka Fido 101/0) are the originators and
|
||
creators of the MAGICK Echomail Conference. Our contribution is
|
||
visible and significant, both in distribution and in authorship
|
||
of messages.
|
||
|
||
Therefore let it be know to all that the MAGICK Echomail con-
|
||
ference is PUBLIC DOMAIN, and not property of any person or
|
||
organization. Neither the name, nor the concept, nor the
|
||
structure may be claimed to be owned by any person. The public
|
||
messages of this conference are put into the public domain and
|
||
may be reprinted in whole or in part, in any medium, by any
|
||
person without let or hindrance. The private messages of said
|
||
conference should be considered the property of their authors and
|
||
Fidonews Page 16 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
the addressees.
|
||
_________________________________________________________________
|
||
|
||
It is possible that Mr. Gentry thinks he is trying to "protect"
|
||
us by keeping unscrupulous operators from claiming ownership of
|
||
our material and by some arcane legality charging us money for
|
||
our own names, or something. Oh well, I suppose stranger things
|
||
have happened (anybody who knows the history of Fantasy Role-
|
||
Playing games knows what I'm talking about). But the sysop of
|
||
136/200 should NOT have taken this action without consulting ME,
|
||
whom he knew full well to be the founder and coordinator of this
|
||
conference. Far from it! And I suspect he didn't warn the
|
||
coordinators of any of the OTHER conferences (such as BIBLE) that
|
||
he tried to "land-grab". And I do NOT consider myself protected
|
||
by Mr. Gentry's claim that he OWNS MY WORDS--"sole property of
|
||
Thomas Gentry ... (c) 1986," it says here. I am therefore taking
|
||
direct action to protect myself and the other members of the
|
||
MAGICK conference from prosecution by returning "ownership" of
|
||
their words to where it belongs, and where any sane court would
|
||
have ruled it was before this obnoxious entry: the public domain.
|
||
|
||
If Mr. Gentry really does think he can get away with claiming
|
||
full, sole ownership over my words and work, he had better retain
|
||
an attorney and prosecute his claim, because I will CONTINUE to
|
||
distribute this conference as I see fit, as I have done for six
|
||
months now. I hate to put it in these terms, but remember, I
|
||
didn't start this fight. Should it become a legal battle, I in-
|
||
vite, I BEG all Fido Sysops (and IFNA) to assist me in defending
|
||
me against take-over of my work and words.
|
||
|
||
I may be contacted via FidoNet at my own address of 100/523, or
|
||
via U.S. Mail to: J. Brad Hicks, 3900 Roland, Apartment B, Saint
|
||
Louis, Missouri 63121, United States of America. Thank you.
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Fidonews Page 17 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
Howard Feil
|
||
User of The Heart of Gold 109/624
|
||
October 23, 1986
|
||
|
||
The Brian Walsh Logical T's FRAUDULENT Contest
|
||
|
||
|
||
In mid August of 1986 Brian Walsh, sysop of Logical
|
||
Technologies FidoNet 109/640, ran a contest under the
|
||
name of Computerland. The contest stated that the first
|
||
person to upload 100 public domain files would win a 1200
|
||
baud Hayes Compatible Modem. I, Howard Feil, was later
|
||
informed by Brian that I was the "winner" of the contest
|
||
he ran under name of Computerland.
|
||
|
||
At this point Computerland Bulletin Board had gone down;
|
||
however, Brian had started a new board with the SAME
|
||
fidonet numbers 109/640 only under the name of Logical
|
||
Technologies. It was in a data conversation with Brian
|
||
on this board that I learned I had "won" the modem that
|
||
it would be mailed to me by UPS after he received the
|
||
modem on Friday, September 5, 1986, and during this same
|
||
data conversation Brian also informed me that all the
|
||
programs uploaded to the Computerland Board had been
|
||
lost. It should be noted here that I was under the
|
||
impression that the Hard Disk the BBS was running on
|
||
hadn't been backed up although Brian later informed me
|
||
that this was not true. He informed me that he had
|
||
absolutely no idea where on earth the software for his
|
||
Tape Backup system was (I'm assuming it didn't occur to
|
||
him to put it on his Hard Disk), and the floppies he had
|
||
backup the Hard Disk had been taken by someone else in
|
||
the store. (Computerland) I offered to bring the
|
||
software to Brian on Floppy disks to Computerland where
|
||
he was working at the time, and he would mail them back
|
||
with the Modem I rightly deserved. Brian was out on a
|
||
service call at the time so I gave the disks to another
|
||
person at Computerland and had them give the disks to
|
||
Brian. He later informed by Fido Mail that he did
|
||
receive the disks.
|
||
|
||
I NEVER received the modem or my floppies from Brian. On
|
||
September 28, 1986, I had my last data conversation with
|
||
Brian of any length His parting words explained what had
|
||
happened (This is a direct screen capture.)
|
||
|
||
I sold IT since then because I had NO intentions of EVER
|
||
giving you one until about 10mins. ago. talk to you
|
||
toimmorrow, Bye.
|
||
|
||
Brian had agreed to order another modem at this time
|
||
(so he said) and was going to call me tomorrow and also
|
||
agreed to call me on two more occasions. He never did.
|
||
I never received the modem I rightly deserved. I never
|
||
received the eight floppy disks I lent to him. Brian
|
||
Walsh has Conducted a FRAUDULENT Contest. He has never
|
||
Fidonews Page 18 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
denied this and he appears to have planned it all along.
|
||
|
||
I was informed on the phone by Son of the Owner of
|
||
Computerland that Computerland had no knowledge that
|
||
Brian Walsh had operated a BBS under the name of
|
||
Computerland and that Brian Walsh was fired from
|
||
Computerland for selling "products we don't even carry."
|
||
Brian Walsh denies this stating that he resigned, and he
|
||
had a written copy of his resignation. I would prefer
|
||
not to comment on which story is true for I have no hard
|
||
evidence for either story.
|
||
|
||
I justly "won" the modem in a public contest sponsored by
|
||
Brian Walsh. All I asked of Brian Walsh, was to be give
|
||
the modem that I am entitled to and the disks I lent him
|
||
which are my own personal property. He has never done so
|
||
and has given no indication that he is going to
|
||
compromise on the issue in anyway; not even in returning
|
||
the disks I lent to him. I have persistently asked Brian
|
||
questions on this issue, and all he has done, is deleted
|
||
my messages.
|
||
|
||
I formally request that Brian Walsh sysop of Logical
|
||
Technologies 109/640's future in FidoNet be considered by
|
||
the members of FidoNet as to whether or not they want
|
||
members who have conducted Fraudulent Contests.
|
||
|
||
Any Comments to this article can be sent to Howard Feil
|
||
on FidoNet 109/624.
|
||
|
||
Note: The sysop of FidoNet 109/624 is in no way involved
|
||
or affiliated with the above proceedings.
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Fidonews Page 19 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
Jin Tan
|
||
Fido 107/701
|
||
|
||
|
||
MultiTech 224EH (with MNP)
|
||
|
||
This is a plea to owners of the above modem who have run
|
||
Fido during mail hours without ANY problems. I need to know your
|
||
dip switch settings as well as your Fidomdm.bbs contents. I have
|
||
tried Modem_Help_East, Tech Echomail as well as MultiTech but to
|
||
no avail. This is my last resort!
|
||
|
||
I am having problems getting Fido (11w) to work with the
|
||
224EH. The problem I am having is getting the modem to answer
|
||
2400 baud calls during Mail hours. Error message on my end says
|
||
it is waiting for sync and that it is not a Fidonet. On the
|
||
callers' log, they see a "no response to whacking CR" message.
|
||
This problem is especially severe (100% of the time) for a Hayes
|
||
2400 and moderate (50%) for the USR Courier. I have tried nume
|
||
rous suggestions including adding "AT&Q1" in the Fidomdm.bbs
|
||
file. I also tried 1/J, 11/J, 5/J as well as AT&E0 (no MNP). My
|
||
PROM version is 2.09. This problem exists ONLY during Mail hour.
|
||
|
||
Despite the above problem, I am still very happy with the
|
||
MultiTech modem. The servicing policy is Excellent. (Once, I
|
||
sent in two modems (a Hayes and a MultiTech) back to the
|
||
manufacturer to be repaired. The MultiTech took 1 week; the
|
||
Hayes took 2 months. The techical support personnel know their
|
||
modems VERY well (too bad they don't know Fido). And the special
|
||
sysops' price for the modem just can't be beat!
|
||
|
||
|
||
Thanking you in anticipation.
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Fidonews Page 20 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
Allen Miller, 108/10
|
||
November 4, 1986
|
||
|
||
Now don't anyone feel sorry for me because I don't feel bad about
|
||
this.....
|
||
|
||
|
||
I have had a lot of fun running this Bulletin board and now I am
|
||
to a point where I am rearranging my priorities. As part of this
|
||
I will be retiring from the Sysop business. I appreciate all the
|
||
support that the users of Allen's Board have contributed; you
|
||
have made it very rewarding for me.
|
||
|
||
Jesse Armontrout, Fido 108/64, will be the new Cincinnati Net
|
||
Host. If anyone needs assistance of a Net Host, contact Jesse.
|
||
He is very capable and I am sure he will do a good (probably
|
||
better) job of Host.
|
||
|
||
Once again, thanks.
|
||
Regards, Allen Miller
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Fidonews Page 21 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
Daniel Tobias
|
||
Soft Fido, 19/216
|
||
|
||
I have just released a new program that lets Fido sysops run
|
||
online games and activities with a running scoreboard. This is
|
||
a feature present in some other BBS systems, such as NoChange,
|
||
and is very popular with users of such systems. Users compete
|
||
to become System Champion, and can see a display of the top ten
|
||
scores at any time.
|
||
|
||
The SCOREKEEPER program, downloadable as the file SCOREKPR.ARC
|
||
in file area 6 of SOFT FIDO [(318) 636-4402, 24 hours, 300 or
|
||
1200 baud], works in the OUTSIDE section of your system. It is
|
||
fully compatible with either OUTSIDE or OUTER, and probably any
|
||
other Outside menu program you might be using. The scores are
|
||
kept in a standard ASCII file (the data format is documented in
|
||
the accompanying text), so you can write games and other
|
||
programs of your own which manipulate this data.
|
||
|
||
SCOREKEEPER includes a routine to find the current user's score
|
||
and move it to a short file CURRSCOR.BBS for easy access by
|
||
other programs, when the user enters the Outside section;
|
||
another routine to replace this score data in the master score
|
||
file (SCORES.BBS) when the user leaves the Outside section, to
|
||
save any changes in his or her score; commands to increase or
|
||
decrease the current user's score; and a command to output the
|
||
current top ten. Instructions are included showing you how to
|
||
use SCOREKEEPER on your system.
|
||
|
||
I plan on releasing game programs designed to work with
|
||
SCOREKEEPER in the future. Right now, I have "The Numbers
|
||
Game", downloadable from Soft Fido as NUMBERS.ARC, which is a
|
||
"lottery"-style drawing with some interesting twists.
|
||
|
||
Once again, our number is (318) 636-4402; our FidoNet node
|
||
number is 19/216. Check us out; we also have a wide selection
|
||
of other Fido utilities available for download, and no pre-
|
||
registration is needed for download access.
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Fidonews Page 22 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
Ken McVay
|
||
Fido 138/45
|
||
|
||
WORD.DBF
|
||
|
||
In 1983, I began to assemble a database which will, in time,
|
||
contain the entire Bible. The project was begun using an
|
||
Osborne-1 and dBASEII, and was upgraded to dBASEIII in 1985.
|
||
|
||
I began the project on the assumption that by the time it was
|
||
completed, the equipment required to utilize it would have
|
||
become inexpensive enough that small congregations could readily
|
||
afford it. It was assumed that the need for automated accounting
|
||
and congregational record-keeping would provide the impetus
|
||
which would lead to the purchase of an XT or compatible. At
|
||
that point, I felt that the usefulness of the datafile would
|
||
make the purchase of dBASEIII worthwhile.
|
||
|
||
The Bible was already available in one version at the time the
|
||
project began, but dBASEIII offered advantages which were NOT
|
||
available, to wit, the ability to append commentaries through
|
||
the MEMO field - including sermons relating to specific verses,
|
||
citations from biblical dictionaries and commentaries, etc.
|
||
|
||
After browbeating a few friends, active in the Christian
|
||
Community, who were also PC owners, I managed to solicit some
|
||
help, and the file grew apace.
|
||
|
||
The file structure includes a field for VERSION, which permits
|
||
the file to contain differing versions of the same books, for
|
||
comparisons which would not be possible in commercial bible
|
||
databases. 90% of the work presently available has been done
|
||
using Beck's New American Translation, with the balance from
|
||
the Good News Bible. About 75% of the NT is presently avail-
|
||
able through 138/45, and is found in WORD.ARC. Individual files
|
||
(books) are also available.
|
||
|
||
I would deeply appreciate volunteers to help in this work. Fido
|
||
has made it possible to seek them. Those willing to add a chap-
|
||
ter or two are invited to contact me, so that I can co-ordinate
|
||
the work and avoid needless duplication. Those who send me a
|
||
new book at their expense will receive the entire project file
|
||
at my expense...more than a fair trade!
|
||
|
||
WORD.ARC also contains two crude command files to facilitate
|
||
creating new files and searches. A dBASE programmer I am not,
|
||
and I would be delighted if someone out there would provide me
|
||
with a menu-driven command file which could be useful to non-
|
||
computer types, enabling searches, comparisons, appending
|
||
commentaries without entering manual commands, etc.
|
||
|
||
The following data file structure must be created with dBASEII
|
||
(minus the memo file) or dBASEIII:
|
||
|
||
WORD.DBF
|
||
FN FIELD TYPE SIZE
|
||
Fidonews Page 23 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
------------------------------------
|
||
1. NEW L 1 ;logical T=New Testament
|
||
2. VERSION C 5 ;translation version
|
||
3. BOOK C 3 ;Book title, abridged
|
||
4. CHAPTER N 3
|
||
5. VERSE N 3
|
||
6. L1 C 50 ;text goes to the Ln fields,
|
||
7. L2 C 50 ;with no word-wrap. Use
|
||
8. L3 C 50 ;quotes where appropriate
|
||
9. L4 C 50
|
||
10. L5 C 50
|
||
11. L6 C 50
|
||
12. XR1 C 10 ;cross-references to other
|
||
13. XR2 C 10 ;verses - often found in
|
||
14. XR3 C 10 ;the margins between col's
|
||
15. XR4 C 10
|
||
16. COMMENTS MEMO ;citations, comments, sermons
|
||
|
||
Please contact me through 138/45, or by voice at 604-758-4137,
|
||
and let me know if you would like to participate. Thanks!
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Fidonews Page 24 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
typed by Infect
|
||
|
||
Note: The following article was typed in from the October/
|
||
November issue of THRASHER magazine, page 75.
|
||
|
||
In The Crowd: Tom Jennings
|
||
|
||
The THRASHER Computer Bulletin Board System (BBS) has been
|
||
an information exchange for more than 1200 skaters since its
|
||
start in 1985. Those who have called might recognize the name
|
||
Tom Jennings -- not only is he a regular caller, but the author
|
||
of Fido -- the BBS program -- the standard in electronic BBS's.
|
||
Since Tom's first crude Fido program in late 1983, his creation
|
||
has spread across the entire U.S., most of Western Europe,
|
||
Australia, and parts of Asia. Each Fido board is linked into a
|
||
gigantic network, FidoNet, which comes alive automatically every
|
||
night at 1:00am. Machines call each other and exchange informa-
|
||
tion across the globe. If you're asking yourself what this means
|
||
read on, as Tom sheds some light in an interview with the sysop
|
||
of THRASHER BBS.
|
||
|
||
THRASHER: EXPLAIN WHAT FIDO IS.
|
||
|
||
TJ: Fido is a program which turns a personal computer into a BBS
|
||
system. A BBS is a computer connected to a telephone line thru
|
||
a modem to form a kind of information base. Other people with
|
||
computers call BBS's and write messages to other callers, read
|
||
messages from other callers, amd take programs and text files. A
|
||
different community develops with every BBS and many times the
|
||
conversations that take place thru the messages are quite good.
|
||
A lot of boards are set up by techies for techies, but there are
|
||
more and more underground, non-technical boards, like THRASHER.
|
||
|
||
Anyone who uses Fido software to run a bulletin board can be
|
||
part of a network called FidoNet. FidoNet is a loose collection
|
||
of BBS's with nothing in common but Fido software.
|
||
|
||
FidoNet connects all the BBS's together, so the machines
|
||
themselves exchange long distance connections and help keep
|
||
phone costs down. There are about 1500 'nodes' grouped together
|
||
into different 'nets'.
|
||
|
||
Up until about September most organizational work for Fido-
|
||
Net was being done by a few people in one place. This didn't
|
||
really work, so we've recently gone to a system of total
|
||
anarchy. Implemented anarchy thru computers -- a real science
|
||
fiction organization. There's going to be no center, the work
|
||
will be spread out over the country and generated simultaneously
|
||
in 13 places.
|
||
|
||
There are lots of ways to look at the new organization. One
|
||
is that it's taking a lot of decision making out of human hands
|
||
and giving it to a machine. But what's being taken amounts to
|
||
grunt-work, making a fucking list. This list has got to be 100%
|
||
accurate, it's boring work -- no creativity involved. Machines
|
||
can do that shit. It might sound de humanizing, but now instead
|
||
Fidonews Page 25 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
of having to do such boring work, people can go out and have
|
||
fun. That's what it's all about, that's what computers are
|
||
about, not the opposite.
|
||
|
||
Everyone thinks of computers as these big institutional
|
||
things with narrow, specified applications. People don't
|
||
realize that computers are just another toy. They're just
|
||
another tool. You can do anything you want with a handsaw, you
|
||
can build all sorts of things, and a computer is just another
|
||
tool. So many people won't believe that, just don't understand.
|
||
It's really obnoxious. Kids at school now have BASIC examples
|
||
in the columns of their textbooks, but computers are not about
|
||
learning different computer languages. Computers can help
|
||
change the way you think about things and teach you to define
|
||
new realities. Like, what does this look like or do for the
|
||
user, what does it look like to me the programmer? Problem
|
||
solving is what it is, learning to think about how to break
|
||
problems down.
|
||
|
||
All the concepts of computers -- loops, stacks, multitasking
|
||
and interrupts -- those are human concepts. They're narrow,
|
||
rigid human concepts, which is why they can be put into machines
|
||
like this. Humans made those ideas up. You're reading a book
|
||
and somebody interrupts you...you put your finger where you were
|
||
and you talk to them and you come back and start from there.
|
||
That's exactly what the machine does. And it does it because
|
||
that's the way humans defined it, it's not the other way around.
|
||
The techie guys are making it seem like it's some arbitrary,
|
||
holy mathematical construct. It's just another idea, and they
|
||
never explain it like that. No one uses those analogies because
|
||
they don't sound technical.
|
||
|
||
THRASHER: I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO AVOID COMPUTERS
|
||
BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BREAK THEM...
|
||
|
||
TJ: That's typical, but the opposite is true. I was at Malibu
|
||
Grand Prix yesterday, where most reasonably good drivers can
|
||
do between 55 and 60 seconds per lap. There was a guy who kept
|
||
doing 88 second laps -- turning it around the corners, not
|
||
squealing the tires. Then, all of a sudden his time jumped to
|
||
60 seconds. He got out and he said, "I just realized how it
|
||
works, you don't just roll it around, you make the thing work."
|
||
Skateboards are like that. If you just roll along and turn by
|
||
steering the trucks you'd never get anywhere, it would be boring
|
||
very quickly. You realize the only way to make it go is to beat
|
||
the living shit out of it and make it work for a living. Thrash
|
||
it on the curb, flip it in the air and jump off ramps and land
|
||
on your ass a whole lot, and you get better and better. You
|
||
realize there's a whole other level you go beyond. Sometimes
|
||
you find out by breaking it. And even that applies to things
|
||
like computers, or anything, because human techniques are human
|
||
techniques and people learn how to do things. That's what makes
|
||
us human beings and not dogs. A dog will figure out how to open
|
||
a door and it won't usually figure out that it means you can
|
||
open the other door this way, it will go thru the whole same
|
||
process with another kind of door. A little kid will figure it
|
||
Fidonews Page 26 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
out instantly and see a parallel, a door is a door. And that's
|
||
how humans solve problems, machines or no machines. That is the
|
||
level it works and people just don't see it because it's alwaus
|
||
clouded in mystique and bullshit.
|
||
|
||
THRASHER: WHERE DO YOU THINK COMPUTER FIT INTO, OR WILL FIT
|
||
INTO, THE LIVES OF KIDS WHO READ THRASHER?
|
||
|
||
TJ: I have an 18 year old friend who has an Apple with a printer
|
||
and he uses it just like he uses his calculator. He couldn't
|
||
care less about it. When he wants to write a paper for school
|
||
he does it on his computer, just because it's easier to type
|
||
there than on a typewriter or by hand, because he can go back
|
||
and fix things. It's not a big deal for him. And that's
|
||
probably a pretty typical attitude, not liking it but putting up
|
||
with it. It's just another tool, might as well know how to use
|
||
it. Actually, I was out skating in Golden Gate Park, trying to
|
||
learn a few tricks, and these kids came by and gave me the most
|
||
non-asshole advice I'd ever gotten in my life. None of this
|
||
put-down stuff, no expert-playing, a couple of kids came by, it
|
||
was very humbling at first, I'm like twice their age...but any-
|
||
way, we got to talking about computers and stuff. They weren't
|
||
particularly interested, they said they didn't see a connection
|
||
between it. I mean, why would anybody with a skateboard be
|
||
interested in computers and viceversa. I mentioned the THRASHER
|
||
BBS, which one kid had heard of, so who knows. I think now it's
|
||
just another fun thing out there. It might be fun and it might
|
||
be boring. It's just the computer nuts who want to have it
|
||
different.
|
||
|
||
THRASHER: NOT MANY PEOPLE START SKATING AT YOUR AGE [31], WHAT
|
||
MADE YOU START?
|
||
|
||
TJ: I think it was your fault. You started sending me THRASHER.
|
||
I started looking at it and sort of laughing. And the more I
|
||
looked at it the more it looked like fun, so I went out and
|
||
bought myself a board. If something is scary or a mystery it
|
||
should be learned. There are too many things that are just
|
||
stupidly scary for no reason at all. Just get rid of them. All
|
||
of these things are being built by human beings, for human
|
||
beings, so...if it's fun you should do it, if it's not any fun
|
||
you shouldn't do it -- if you can possibly avoid it.
|
||
|
||
-=>THRASHER BBS.............(415) 822-5630 125/8
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Fidonews Page 27 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
Todd C. Looney
|
||
Vietnam Veteran's Valhalla
|
||
Fido 143/27
|
||
(408)293-7894
|
||
300/1200/2400 Bauds
|
||
|
||
NATIONAL VIETNAM VETERAN'S ECHO-MAIL CONFERENCE
|
||
|
||
There is one other wall, of course.
|
||
One we never speak of.
|
||
One we never see,
|
||
One which separates memory from madness.
|
||
In a place no one offers flowers.
|
||
THE WALL WITHIN.
|
||
We permit no visitors.
|
||
By Steve Mason
|
||
|
||
I started out with Steve Mason's poem because it tells a story in
|
||
itself. I believe it accurately describes in very few words one
|
||
of the very many complex, and probably one of the most protected,
|
||
commonalities shared not only among a vast majority of military
|
||
combat veterans of ANY war, but among nearly every person who has
|
||
witnessed and survived any kind of life-threatening traumatic
|
||
experience as well. This "wall" shields us from our darkest,
|
||
most horrifying memories. It is, without question, one of the
|
||
most significant components manifested in Post-Traumatic Stress
|
||
Syndrome (PTS).
|
||
|
||
One of the toughest things for any combat veteran can be to open
|
||
his or herself up (yes, there are women who have seen combat,
|
||
too) to another human being and share the traumatic events from
|
||
their past. It is rare in this instance when the occasion can be
|
||
found when both the will and and a sympathetic, non critical ear
|
||
are both available at the same time. Most of find it very hard,
|
||
even when conditions are perfect, to "tell it like it really
|
||
was". One has to have an awful lot of trust in a person to risk
|
||
the consequences of lowering "the wall" , much less to permit
|
||
others to visit among our long-since buried memories and
|
||
feelings. When it gets right down to the line, most of us lose
|
||
the courage to face the emotional ramifications which
|
||
unmercifully enshroud us when we dare to share our deepest, most
|
||
personal secrets with someone else. It is especially difficult
|
||
when that other person has never experienced the same kind of
|
||
traumatic events, making it difficult if not impossible for them
|
||
to truly understand our pain.
|
||
|
||
How do you tell someone who has never experienced combat what it
|
||
REALLY feels like to witness a comrades violent death? What will
|
||
that person think of you when you tell them what it REALLY feels
|
||
like to have to take the life of another human being? Is the
|
||
emotional relief from getting it off your chest REALLY worth the
|
||
gamble of possible rejection, ridicule, or criticism? Well, I
|
||
can tell you from my own experiences that is is far less painful
|
||
to keep the "walls" in place than it is to face up to the
|
||
terrifying realities they imprison.
|
||
|
||
Fidonews Page 28 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
There are a few places where I can feel safe bringing up those
|
||
old, painful memories; places where I can slowly pull each one
|
||
out and deal with it in a comfortable atmosphere free of mis-
|
||
understanding and criticism. The local Vietnam Veterans Outreach
|
||
Center is one, but I sometimes have problems in one-on-ones. The
|
||
others are computer bulletin boards where I can find others like
|
||
myself who have been there and understand where I am coming from.
|
||
|
||
I started a bulletin board just like that in my home in San Jose,
|
||
California, now the Vietnam Veteran's Valhalla. I also conceived
|
||
of a national echo-mail conference devoted to the Vietnam Veteran
|
||
and put out the call for supporters across the country. That
|
||
call was answered by three other Fido bulletin board sysops.
|
||
Together, we have linked our systems between the east and west
|
||
coasts and I am proud to boast of our success. The other boards
|
||
who have become a part of this conference are:
|
||
|
||
The New York Transfer, 107/105, Bob Richards-sysop
|
||
718-442-1056 300/1200/2400 bauds
|
||
|
||
The BNC Connector, 151/301, Bob Schreiber-sysop
|
||
704-262-1861 300/1200/2400 Bauds
|
||
|
||
The Blowtorch, 109/606, Alexander Wall-sysop
|
||
202-686-9398 300/1200 Bauds
|
||
|
||
There are people from all walks of life contributing to the
|
||
National Vietnam Veterans Echo-Mail Conference; combat and non-
|
||
combat veterans from all wars, non-veterans of all ages,
|
||
Vietnamese military veterans and refugees. Just because you are
|
||
not a Vietnam Veteran, or even a military veteran at all for that
|
||
matter, is no reason not to call one of the boards closest to
|
||
you. All you need is an interest in learning about the realities
|
||
of the Vietnam war, and hearing about it from those of us who
|
||
were actually there; who know the true cost of war and have paid that
|
||
price. No historian, unless he or she has been there personally,
|
||
can tell you what WE can!
|
||
|
||
We want to put out the call again and ask for the support of
|
||
other Fido sysops around the country to become a part of this
|
||
valuable public service by hosting and/or coordinating the Vietnam
|
||
Veterans Echo-Mail Conference in your area. Please contact me,
|
||
Todd Looney, at the Vietnam Veteran's Valhalla in San Jose,
|
||
California by FidoNet mail at node 143/27 to tell me you have
|
||
decided to join us! If you are on the east coast, please contact
|
||
Bob Richards, the east coast coordinator, at the New York
|
||
Transfer in Staten Island, New York 107/105.
|
||
|
||
If you're a regular subscriber of the Fido Newsletter, this will
|
||
be the third time you have read about this. Why are you putting
|
||
it off? We need your support today! We especially need your
|
||
help if you are in one of the Mid-Western states (or anywhere
|
||
between California and New York for that matter). This type of
|
||
public service is still quite a unique one to the world, and I
|
||
think you will agree it is a service whose time has come and
|
||
needs desperately to be addressed. We can't really make it as
|
||
Fidonews Page 29 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
successful as we would like without your help.
|
||
|
||
Echo-Mail is one of the most effective means of mass-
|
||
communications brought to light this century, let's USE it!
|
||
|
||
PLEASE JOIN US!
|
||
|
||
.....
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Fidonews Page 30 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
COLUMNS
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
|
||
Jerry Hindle
|
||
123/6 123/0
|
||
MemphisNet
|
||
2400 baud MAX
|
||
901-353-4563
|
||
|
||
Hello again......
|
||
|
||
This time I am reviewing a terminal program called BOYAN-C1.
|
||
This program has quite a few unique features that will no doubt make
|
||
it a LOT easier for one to operate when calling a bulletin board. I
|
||
have only had this file for a few days and already I have noticed a
|
||
distinct drop in my on-line time when calling long distance systems.
|
||
This in itself should be enough for most but the author has decided
|
||
to go a lot farther by adding such features as a complete file
|
||
handler BUILT IN the program itself. You can do such mundane things
|
||
as copy, move, rename, or delete files with this feature but I find
|
||
the best use is one I think not one person has thought of before...to
|
||
wit marking the files for either uploading or downloading. He has
|
||
also included a feature that makes X-modem protocol file transfers
|
||
almost as easy to do as the Tele-Link file transfer is now. This is
|
||
the ability of the terminal package to remember the filename you are
|
||
downloading from a bulletin board when you type it in, thus when you
|
||
have entered the information for downloading on the system all you
|
||
need do is hit the PgDn and the term program will insert the filename
|
||
for you on your disk.
|
||
|
||
This program has no limit to the amount of buffer since it uses
|
||
the disk itself for storing info automatically. It also can handle
|
||
editing a file of any size due to the same reason, it uses the disk
|
||
as a buffer !
|
||
|
||
The many features of this program are too varied and good for me
|
||
to fully describe here, but I will say that the author has shown a
|
||
great deal of imagination in writing this one and I for one think it
|
||
is well worth the requested SHAREWARE donation.
|
||
|
||
The file in ARC format is about 144k long but when you un-ARC it
|
||
you should do it to either a hard drive or an EMPTY floppy as it is a
|
||
real hog for space.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Fidonews Page 31 24 Nov 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
FOR SALE
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
MAGAZINE ON DISK FOR IBM PC AND COMPATIBLES
|
||
|
||
The first issue of BIG BLUE DISK, a magazine on disk for the IBM
|
||
Personal Computer and compatibles, is currently on sale.
|
||
It is contained entirely on a floppy disk. Each issue contains
|
||
programs, articles, feedback from subscribers, program reviews
|
||
and demos, and more.
|
||
|
||
For example, issue number one contains the following:
|
||
|
||
- PLANET OF THE ROBOTS: In this text adventure, a time warp has
|
||
transported you to a future Earth where robots rule. Can you
|
||
find your way back?
|
||
|
||
- HOP-A-LONG HANGMAN: A new version of the classic word game,
|
||
with three different skill levels and word sets.
|
||
|
||
- LIFETIME CALENDAR: Travel back in time or plan the future.
|
||
Display any month from January, 1753 to December, 4999.
|
||
|
||
- LOAN AMORTIZATION: Calculate simple interest loan terms that
|
||
best suit your budget. This easy-to-use program produces a full
|
||
amortization schedule.
|
||
|
||
- STRING ART: This program generates many captivating patterns.
|
||
Check it out; a little high-tech cloud watching is good for the
|
||
soul.
|
||
|
||
In addition, BIG BLUE DISK #1 contains a column of hints and
|
||
tips; and a report of late-breaking news in the computer
|
||
industry. Also, for the first time anywhere, BIG BLUE DISK
|
||
presents a review of VersaForm XL version 4.0, the latest version
|
||
of an inexpensive but powerful forms-oriented database.
|
||
|
||
This issue is available at many outlets nationwide,
|
||
including Waldenbooks and B. Dalton Booksellers. You can also
|
||
order it by direct mail by sending $9.95 (check, money order, or
|
||
Visa/Mastercard/American Express accepted) to: BIG BLUE DISK, PO
|
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Fidonews Page 33 24 Nov 1986
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Fidonews Page 34 24 Nov 1986
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Fidonews Page 35 24 Nov 1986
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NOTICES
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The Interrupt Stack
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3 Dec 1986
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Washigton, D.C.
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7 Dec 1986
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The Next Occasional MetroNet Sysop Meeting. Contact Gee Wong
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at 107/312 for details.
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24 Aug 1989
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Voyager 2 passes Neptune.
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**** 1987 - A Microprocessor Odyssey ****
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( or Who needs a Monolith? )
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I.P.R. Echomail
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( Interpersonal Relationships )
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Fidonews Page 36 24 Nov 1986
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For information on how to hookup please Netmail a note to:
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