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Volume 3, Number 22 9 June 1986
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Editor in Chief: Thom Henderson
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Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings
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FidoNews is the official newsletter of the International FidoNet
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Association, and is published weekly by SEAdog Leader, node 1/1.
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You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
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FidoNews. Article submission standards are contained in the file
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FNEWSART.DOC, available from node 1/1.
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The contents of the articles contained here are not our
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responsibility, nor do we necessarily agree with them.
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Everything here is subject to debate.
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL
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The Right to Information
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2. ARTICLES
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EchoMail and Host Routing: A Plea for Sanity
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New Utility: FIDODATE
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The latest FIDO distribution list
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Minutes - Cincinnati Fido Sysop Meeting
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Help a Lost Dog Find His Way
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The Survival Communication Forum
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3. COLUMNS
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Notes from Abroad
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The World of Computing: Multitasking and multicomputers
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4. WANTED
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Wanted: Computer Related T-Shirts
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5. FOR SALE
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Entertainment Software for your PC!
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6. NOTICES
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The Interrupt Stack
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CARTOON: Gruesome George, by Bruce White
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Starting a Conference for the MINDSET PC
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Fidonews Page 2 9 Jun 1986
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EDITORIAL
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This week's guest editorial is by Peter de Jager of 148/103.
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The Right to Information
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Greetings FidoWorld! The editorial in FidoNews volume 3, number
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17 has prompted this response.
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The question has been asked, "Do we have a right to information?"
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That is to say, "is someone immoral if they withhold information
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from me?" I have heard the argument that information does not
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"belong" to anyone and therefore should be accessible to all at
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no cost. I disagree.
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Firstly, "information" is a result of data having been processed
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in some fashion. This processing of data into information,
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requires energy, therefore it is not free; there is a cost
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involved in its production.
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Secondly, even the raw material, data, is not free. There is a
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cost to collect and store it. Try to collect any datum and you
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will find that you must make some effort to do so. For example,
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taking the air temperature (available to to everyone) requires
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the use of a thermometer, and time to take the reading.
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Thirdly, assuming that nobody is currently collecting the data,
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nobody is pointing a moral finger at someone else stating "It is
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your moral duty to collect and analyze, in case it might provide
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a solution." Nor is there a hue and cry about the fact that the
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data is expensive to collect. After all, the cost of the data
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collection is dictated not by some greedy individual, but by the
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rules of nature.
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So to tie this back to the editorial, the first example given was
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of a private weather bureau that has deduced the arrival of a
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hurricane through its own efforts. Only its subscribers now know
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about the danger and many other people die due to lack of
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knowledge. Is the company responsible for those deaths in any
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fashion?
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No!
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My reasoning is:
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a) That the raw data was available to all those that could afford
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it. Granted the raw data cost is high, but the bureau did not
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set that price! It was set by nature; no one is responsible
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for the high cost, therefore no one is to blame.
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b) The information was available to all persons that either:
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1) Collected/analyzed the data themselves, and paid the high
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Fidonews Page 3 9 Jun 1986
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cost to do so, or
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2) Paid the Bureau a subscription fee, which would be much
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less than the costs involved in (1).
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In other words, the bureau has provided you a FREE service by
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giving you an additional option! You now have a choice! Pay the
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high cost set by nature OR the lower cost made possible by the
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activity of the bureau.
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To now claim that the bureau is now somehow responsible for the
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death of people that chose not to, or could not, pay the lower
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price is worse than ludicrous. By increasing our options, the
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bureau has made our life better, not worse! To inflict them with
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some form of moral obligation is punishing them for being a
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service to us! Since when has excelling become a crime?
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To impose this moral obligation on any type of activity will
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hinder its growth, to our continued detriment! Sadly, this logic
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will not prevent the "takers" of the world from imposing these
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types of rules on the "makers". There are many things that
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happen in this world because someone is willing to take a
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personal risk, then there are those that would lay claim to those
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efforts based on their "need". Perhaps one day the makers will
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decide it is no longer worth the effort... and shrug... and
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strike... to protect their efforts from the thieves and mooches
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of the world that contribute nothing but wish to inherit
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everything; because they "need" it, not because they've earned
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it.
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Yours in frustration,
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Peter de Jager
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Toronto, Canada
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May 1986
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on 148/103
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Fidonews Page 4 9 Jun 1986
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ARTICLES
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Josh Gordon, 125/93
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EchoMail and Host Routing
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A Plea for Sanity
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This isn't really my argument to make; I don't run a Host or even
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a Hub. However, I am participating in one EchoMail with about six
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other boards: the MAGICK conference. And we have had some
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disagreements regarding topology and routing, so I'm bringing
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this up for general discussion and response here.
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There is a very strong argument to be made for NEVER HOST ROUTING
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ECHOMAIL. There is only one argument in _favor_ of host routing
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EchoMail; convenience (you don't have to do ANYTHING). But a
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moment's reflection will show the problems in host-routing. First
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and foremost, the net topology and routing structure was set up
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for irregular but small mail loads. In normal use, without the
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repetitive load that EchoMail imposes, a host/hub does not have
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to bear a grossly huge load, just a normally large load.
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EchoMail, on the other hand, demands repetition of messages. So,
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if my board were to host-route, and (as the conference
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coordinator wanted) all of us on the conference sent to all
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others, my board would generate maybe 60 messages on a busy
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night, divided between 5 recipients. What's worse, the growth is
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at least quadratic, possibly exponential. Such a load on the
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hosts is unfair and improper, and impedes the usual flow of
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regular mail: which is supposed to be the host's primary
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responsibility.
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Another argument in this vein is that the hosting system is
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designed for a loosely-linked system, so that the individual
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board doesn't need any knowledge of the remote boards schedules.
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However, in an EchoMail topology, each board is cooperating with
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its EchoMail neighbors, so a direct tightly-linked system is
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possible (and can be more timely).
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I would like to recommend that host-routing of EchoMail be
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treated as a capital offense: the offender should be doghoused.
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This seems to be the trend; I caught hell from the Pack Leader
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from the start, and got wise quick. (Arf!) Some hosts are not as
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sure of their rights and obligations, and are continuing to
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encourage this questionable practice (or at least, allow it.) A
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general policy would clear things up.
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Well, while I'm at it, I'd like to invite any interested boards
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into the MAGICK conference. The past few weeks have seen serious
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(and not so serious) discussions on Paganism & Tolerance, Heresy
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(and Rumors of Heresy), Ritual vs. the Party Mentality, Political
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Alerts (there's an obnoxious bill in the House Ways and Means
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Committee that would ban tax exemptions from "organizations
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having an interest in witchcraft"), and other interesting stuff.
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Fidonews Page 5 9 Jun 1986
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Drop a line to 125/93 if you are interested. Its a lot of fun and
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sometimes even educational.
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Fidonews Page 6 9 Jun 1986
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Matt Gertner, 141/320
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I have just released a fourth version of Fidodate, a program
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which adds dates to the FILES.BBS file. The dates (thanks to Bill
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Thomas of SeaCoast Fido) are added in the format mm-dd-yy in
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front of the file description. For example, the line:
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FDATE43.ARC Version 4.3 of FIDODATE
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Would be changed to:
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FDATE43.ARC 05-18-86 Version 4.3 of FIDODATE
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If a description + date is too long, the user is prompted to
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enter a shorter description. In addition, the date of the newest
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file is added to the DIR.BBS file (allowing users to scan with
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the 'a' command to see which of the file areas have received new
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files since their last call). FIDODATE can also be run
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automatically from a batch file. The program is public domain,
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with a requested donation of $10-20, and it is available from the
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Fido mentioned above (I unfortunately don't have the cash to mail
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it out to any number of people). Source code is supplied. I hope
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this program will be of use to someone.
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Fidonews Page 7 9 Jun 1986
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FIDO DISTRIBUTION LIST
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27 May 1986
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If you are a distribution node, and would like to be added to
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this list, send the relevant information to the SYSOP on 109/74 -
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The Bear's Den. I will release updates to this list as new
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distribution nodes are added.
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NODE NODE NAME LOCATION PHONE NUMBER Version
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---- --------- -------- ------------ -------
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11/601 Old Frog Rhinelander_WI 715-362-3895 * ALL
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100/10 MDC RCC, St._Louis_MO 314-232-6881 * ALL
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100/22 PC LUG St._Louis_MO 314-576-2743 * D,I
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100/51 DECUS Central St._Louis_MO 314-576-4129 * ALL
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101/27 Dave's FIDO Gardner_MA 617-632-1861 * All
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101/106 NewWorld Magic1 Swampscott_MA 617-595-5626 * I,G
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104/56 Denver's Fido Denver, CO 303-973-9338 * ALL
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106/343 PC-Interconnect Houston_TX 713-955-8120 I
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106/106 Black Star Houston_TX 713-458-5406 I
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107/23 HitchHikers Guide Williamson_NY 315-589-7361 D
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107/312 Dance Studio E_Brunswick_NJ 201-247-0573 I
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109/483 Wash-A-RUG Fairfax_VA 703-359-6549 D,I
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109/603 NET-EXCHANGE Reston_VA 703-689-3561 I
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114/1 Phoenix Net Phoenix_AZ 602-242-5230 I
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115/100 Illini Data_RB Bolingbrook_IL 312-759-5402 * ALL
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115/500 Sit UBU Sit Lombard_IL 312-960-5928 * ALL
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102/101 Rainbow Data Los Angeles_CA 213-204-2996 * D
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122/6 PSG COOS Bay COOS_Bay_OR 503-269-5202 * I
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123/6 FIDO Hydrant Memphis_TN 901-353-4563 * I
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124/12 Inside Track Ed Plano_TX 214-422-4772 I
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125/1 Fido's Board San_Francisco_CA 415-864-1418 * All
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125/521 Satore Center San_Francisco_CA 415-647-8528 I,V
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128/10 The Three Laws Colorado_Spgs_CO 303-574-1110 I
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129/11 TACO Sanyo Fido Trafford_PA 412-856-1428 * S
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132/107 M'Cycle Bytes Amherst_NH 603-889-3366 * All
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133/1 ATL/FIDO1 Atlanta_GA 404-928-1876 * D,I
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134/1 Calgary Fido Calgary_Alberta 403-282-1703 * I,S
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135/14 Metro-Fire Fido Miami_FL 305-596-8611 I,S,T,G
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137/19 The Ark Tangent Tampa_FL 813-977-5347 * I
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138/3 PROBUS INTRNTL Puyallup_WA 206-848-9232 * I
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138/14 BECS_Tandy_Fido Seattle_WA 206-527-5619 * All
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3101/1 Fido Nl1 Ede_Holland +31-8380-37165 I
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* Supports 2400 Baud
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FIDO Version:
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I[BM], D[EC], V[ICTOR], S[ANYO], T[ANDY], G[ENERIC]
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This version of the list was squeezed a bit, to allow it to fit
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into the FIDONEWS format. If you would like a full 80 column
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copy of this list, it may be downloaded from either FIDO 109/74
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(The Bear's Den), or FIDO 109/483 (Wash-A-RUG).
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- NOTE -
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It has been pointed out to me that not all of these listed nodes
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Fidonews Page 8 9 Jun 1986
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are carrying the latest release of FIDO. If you find old or
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obsolete versions of FIDO on a listed distribution node, please
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let me know at FIDO 109/74.
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Fidonews Page 9 9 Jun 1986
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MINUTES - Cincinnati Area Fido Sysop Meeting - May 16, 1986
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Allen Miller 108/10
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May 16, 1986 - We had the first Fido Sysop's get together for the
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Cincinnati area Fido's. A rather informal affair, it was held at
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Mr. T's, a pizza parlor in Western Hills, Cincinnati. If I can
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speak for the group, I would say a rather pleasant time was had
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by all.
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The first order of business was introductions, because other than
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one or two for each of us, every face was a new one. We had nine
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sysop's in attendance, seven from Cincinnati one one each from
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Fairborn and Sydney.
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After the introductions we moved on to the next important order
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of business, pizzas, hoagies and beer.
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Before, during, and after the food (and beverages) we had some
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very helpful discussions. Often times there were two or three of
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these discussions going on at the same time so I really can't
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comment on all of them.
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- Some of the sysops discussed problems with users that spend an
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inordinate amount of time downloading and those that insist on
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leaving messages using foul language. Preregistration, Fido's
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time parameters and orientation of the Fido system were
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discussed as ways to limit these activities.
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- Announcement was made that only the NODEDIFF files will be
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distributed automatically in the local area. File transfer
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time was cited as the reason for this change. Sysops should
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get XLATRGEN or LISTGEN utility to merge the NODEDIFF file with
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the prior week's NODELIST.nnn file.
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- General use of the Sysop "0" command and the O)utside command
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were discussed, along with the OUTSIDE utility program. Sample
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.BAT files were distributed illustrating structure for invoking
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these functions with security of the WATCHDOG utility. One
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sysop expressed interest in finding a generalized utility to
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allow full screen video applications to run well in the Outside
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environment.
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- Several Fido operation problems were discussed and resolved
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either at the meeting or after. One problem involved the "disk
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full" error message generated when trying to enter messages and
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was found to be caused by not having the FILES=20 and
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BUFFERS=50 statements in the CONFIG.SYS file. A question was
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also raised on how to upload *.* to Fido. Allen Miller's
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solution is to use Telink protocol in a program such as PIBTERM
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and enter the command U TC X to Fido, and then *.* to PIBTERM's
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request for a filename.
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- Use of .BAT files along with Fido's event scheduler were
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discussed as an effective means of performing regular system
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maintenance functions. Samples were distributed. One of my
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Fidonews Page 10 9 Jun 1986
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favorite items is to use COMMAND /C filename.BAT to have my
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RUNBBS.BAT file execute its external event by calling an
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external .BAT file and allowing the event statements to be
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maintained in a separate file. When the event .BAT file is
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completed, control is returned to the calling .BAT file.
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Fidonews Page 11 9 Jun 1986
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Announcing the Official GAGS Game Contest May 26, 1986
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Users of the Generic Adventure Game System (GAGS) now have a
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chance to enhance their reputations and income by writing a game
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using GAGS.
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The author of the best game submitted to the Official GAGS Game
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Contest will receive $100 or 100 floppy disks, and his or her
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game will be included with all copies of GAGS for at least a
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year. Depending on the number and quality of entries, other
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entries showing merit may receive Honorable Mentions and token
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prizes of some kind.
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GUIDELINES FOR SUBMISSIONS:
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To be considered for the contest, your game must work with
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version 1.06a or later of the Generic Adventure Game System.
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The game should be playable (i.e. it must be possible for a
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reasonable player to complete it in less than 5 years, and not
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require that the player save the game status before every step).
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Please realize that the line between cleverness and cruelty in
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game design is a fine one.
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The winning game need not use the standard "adventure game"
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format; any interesting and enjoyable script for GAGS will be
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considered for the contest. It is not necessary to use any
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particular feature of GAGS, and the game can be as large or
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small, or as simple or complex, as you feel appropriate.
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Games which rely on IBM-specific features (such as the IBM
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graphics character set) will be considered, but games requiring
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specific features of other computer systems will not be
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considered.
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Keep your game clean. If your game were a movie, it should be
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rated PG-13 at the worst, since GAGS is aimed at a wide audience
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including pre-teens. It should not contain explicit or offensive
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language, and should certainly not require obscene or offensive
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behavior on the part of the player.
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The game should not infringe upon any copyrighted material or
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upon any trademarks. In other words, while you are welcome to
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base your game upon a fantasy-role-playing environment, or a
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space travel scenario, you cannot legally use names like
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"Dungeons and Dragons" or "Star Trek," which are registered
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trademarks. It might be acceptable to use modified trademarks if
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the game is a deliberate satire. All text must be original to the
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game author(s), who must own all copyrights to the game.
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Entries may be written by an individual, a team, or, if desired,
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by an artificially-intelligent computer program.
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Fidonews Page 12 9 Jun 1986
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PRIZES:
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The author of the best game submitted by September 30, 1986 will
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receive his or her choice of a check for $100 or 100 double-
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sided, double-density floppy disks for the IBM PC. Depending on
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the number of entries and the disposition of the judge(s), other
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prizes may also be awarded, either as additional prizes for the
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author of the best game or as less valuable prizes awarded to
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games considered worthy of an Honorable Mention.
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RULES:
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No purchase is necessary: You need not be a registered user to
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enter the Official GAGS Game Contest, and registered users will
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have no advantage in the contest.
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All entries should comply with the Guidelines for Submissions
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listed above.
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The winner of the contest will be the game that, in the opinion
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of the judge(s), is most interesting and enjoyable to use. The
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contest will be judged by Mark J. Welch, or by one or more
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person(s) chosen by him to judge the contest. All decisions of
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the judge(s) will be final.
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The winning game file will be included with all copies of GAGS
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distributed by the author from October 31, 1986 to October 31,
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1987, and possibly thereafter. Other than the $100 prize, the
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winner will receive no additional compensation from Mark J.
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Welch; however, the winning game may include a "shareware"
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contribution request within the game itself. The winning game may
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be edited for style and grammar before release.
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All entries may be individually copyrighted by their authors, and
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may be distributed as "shareware" or as "public domain" works
|
||
independent of the Official GAGS Game Contest. Entries which are
|
||
copyrighted and distributed as "shareware" by their authors,
|
||
including the winning submission if appropriate, may include
|
||
requests for contributions to their authors.
|
||
|
||
Submissions should be sent as an ASCII text file, on a 5-1/4 inch
|
||
floppy disk, formatted for use with an IBM Personal Computer.
|
||
Entries which include a return mailer and sufficient postage will
|
||
be returned; no other submissions will be returned.
|
||
|
||
All submissions must be mailed to Mark J. Welch, P.O. Box 2409,
|
||
San Francisco, CA 94126. All submissions must be postmarked by
|
||
September 30, 1986, and must be received by October 10, 1986. The
|
||
winner of the contest will be announced on or before October 31,
|
||
1986.
|
||
|
||
----------------
|
||
|
||
Sorry, games may not be submitted electronically. WelchNet (Fido
|
||
125/459) has become a private node with an unpublished phone
|
||
Fidonews Page 13 9 Jun 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
number. I am moving to Berkeley, California effective June 1,
|
||
1986; please call Directory Assistance for my new voice number,
|
||
or call my old voice number (415-564-1066) for a referral.
|
||
|
||
----------------
|
||
|
||
For those who don't already know, the Generic Adventure Game
|
||
System (GAGS) is an adventure-game authoring system for computers
|
||
that use the MS-DOS operating system (such as the IBM PC, DEC
|
||
Rainbow, PCjr, and the Amiga with Transformer). It's distributed
|
||
as Shareware, and is available from many bulletin-board systems,
|
||
users' groups, and other sources of public-domain software
|
||
nationwide. An unregistered program disk can also be purchased
|
||
from the author for $10. Registration is $15 more; and registered
|
||
users can buy the Turbo Pascal 3.0 source code for $25 more.
|
||
|
||
----------------
|
||
|
||
Good Luck, everyone!
|
||
Mark J. Welch
|
||
P.O. Box 2409
|
||
San Francisco, CA 94126
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
(tm) GAGS and "Generic Adventure Game System" are trademarks of
|
||
Mark J. Welch. IBM, IBM PC, and IBM PCjr are trademarks of IBM.
|
||
MS-DOS is a trademark of Microsoft Corp. Amiga and Transformer
|
||
are trademarks of Commodore Business Machines. DEC and Rainbow
|
||
are trademarks of Digital Equipment Corp. Turbo Pascal is a
|
||
trademark of Borland International.
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
Fidonews Page 14 9 Jun 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
Charles Wallace, 13/999
|
||
|
||
Help a Lost Dog Find His Way
|
||
|
||
|
||
I am the SYSOP of the LOST DOG FIDO in Cape May, N.J. and I
|
||
propose that perhaps the FIDO sysops, working together can do
|
||
what seemingly can't be done otherwise:
|
||
|
||
I priced a "good" brand of GENERIC PC with COLOR monitor and a
|
||
20-Mbyte HD, 5151 Keyboard, serial, parallel,C/G, etc and the
|
||
total price (with 1 year guarentee) was under $2,000.00
|
||
|
||
Now I know that Tom Jennings is off-line because of a "disk
|
||
crash" and that he is "re-building" a system, but I'm sure that
|
||
the guy is busy. And he has to work for a living, (so say we
|
||
all!!). Now, I like and use the FIDO system, got a lot of good
|
||
stuff and met a few nice folks, try to upload my share, and
|
||
frankly, if I had two grand in loose cash, I'd personally send TJ
|
||
a new computer. But if you think about it the way I've thought
|
||
about it, you'd realize that it ain't the money.
|
||
|
||
So, to make a long story short, here is what I propose:
|
||
|
||
the LOST DOG FUND, c/o IFNA in St. Louis.
|
||
contributors? All interested FIDOUSERS.
|
||
how much? NO DONATION OVER $5.00!!!
|
||
|
||
and we will get TJ back on-line.....
|
||
|
||
WHY ONLY $5.00, because there are about 800 nodes in the U.S. amd
|
||
Canada, plus UNTOLD numbers of fidousers and if just 1/2 the
|
||
SYSOPS gave, then we could get TJ his system. I spoke to the guy
|
||
I get computers from and told him about it, he said that for
|
||
however much we collect, he will sell us the MOST SYSTEM with the
|
||
MOST MEMORY and DRIVES that our $$$ add up to, and AT HIS COST
|
||
plus shipping to San Francisco.
|
||
|
||
So, we have a dealer who also has a heart, we have $2,000 plus to
|
||
raise, and we have 800 plus contributors to ask. And WHILE WE'RE
|
||
AT IT... if you want to send MORE than $5.00, then make the
|
||
difference out to the IFNA fellows who do great work for no pay
|
||
and little thanks. Remember, a FIDO, by itself, is just another
|
||
bulletin board, and even THAT wouldn't run without the work TJ
|
||
did.
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Fidonews Page 15 9 Jun 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
From: Survival Communication Forum, Santa Rosa, CA
|
||
Sysop: Don Kulha, #125/7, BBS: 707-545-0746
|
||
|
||
|
||
Howdy Folks! I'd like to take a moment here via the FidoNews
|
||
to say hello and introduce our system, SCF. Our aim with SCF is
|
||
to serve the members of the survivalist community as a
|
||
communications medium and spread the word on the merits of
|
||
preparedness to the public at large. We survivalists generally do
|
||
not fit the media stereotypes you usually see, indeed may of us
|
||
do not even refer to ourselves as such. Generally speaking our
|
||
goal is to be prepared for natural and manmade disasters, along
|
||
with the common day to day type of emergencies, which really
|
||
seems prudent doesn't it?
|
||
|
||
SCF has been in continuous operation since January of 1985.
|
||
The system was converted to FIDO about a month ago and we joined
|
||
the net as 125/7 just recently. Our Forum has 15 file areas and
|
||
16 conferences. Some of the topics are: Medicine, Radio
|
||
Communications, Independent Energy Systems, Weaponscraft, Food,
|
||
and Finance. We also have hosted discussion areas on
|
||
radio/alternative energy and Survival Viehicle maintenance and
|
||
modification, plus an online interactive version of the Game
|
||
"Diplomacy" to sharpen ones bargaining skills. Our Forum is
|
||
constantly changing and growing and you are most welcome to join
|
||
in or stop by for a visit. We also have a "sister" survival
|
||
system on the East coast, just getting started, called SURCOMM
|
||
which operates 9pm-8am EST at 703-249-5085 (soon to be in the
|
||
net).
|
||
|
||
I'd like to take a moment here to thank the Network
|
||
Administrators, Tom J. and all of the system operators who have
|
||
built and nurtured the net-without you we would not have the
|
||
opportunity to join in this truly amazing thing you've spawned.
|
||
I've also been amazed at the open, friendly and helpful manner of
|
||
all the Fido sysops I've contacted, it's a great feeling to be a
|
||
part of this family. Special thanks to Butch Walker and Bruce
|
||
Ong.
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Fidonews Page 16 9 Jun 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
COLUMNS
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
Notes from Abroad
|
||
|
||
|
||
The modem situation in Europe is very complicated and from Fido's
|
||
point of view much worse then in the USA. V21 and V23 seems
|
||
fairly standard, with v22 and v22bis modems coming but at high
|
||
prices yet. Most of your callers will use v21 (300/300 baud) or
|
||
v23 (1200/75 baud). If your Fido must serve them your modem must
|
||
autoselect between the two modes and adjust accordingly. There
|
||
the problems arise, most of these so called "dual standard" types
|
||
are incompatible with each other, effectively preventing the mail
|
||
between Fido's while manual callers don't have any problems.
|
||
Also so-called "Hayes emulators" with v21 and v23 are not quite
|
||
Hayes (yet) giving more problems with the European mail
|
||
situation.
|
||
|
||
Because of these technical differences mailing to some other
|
||
European Fido is quite a jump into the deep and connection to
|
||
some Fido's will even be impossible to make. To cure this
|
||
situation we are strongly supporting the national host scheme,
|
||
with hosts taking care of international mail for the Fido's in
|
||
his/her country. Between national hosts and between Europe and
|
||
the USA we have agreed upon the v22bis system as the standard.
|
||
At the moment Fido's 3101 and 4403 the national hosts for Holland
|
||
and the UK are able to send/receive mail on this standard with
|
||
4601 and 4701 following shortly. Sending your international mail
|
||
through this hosts will costs you less because messages will be
|
||
packed and send at a high baud rate. There is some accounting
|
||
involved here, mostly the national host will require you to send
|
||
some money in advance and will deduct the actual transfers from
|
||
your account. You must contact your national host about this if
|
||
you wish to use this system. Note that for sending files to
|
||
another country this routing will not work and you must either
|
||
play your hand and try to send it, or send the file between
|
||
country hosts.
|
||
|
||
Also there is now a possibility that you can mail WITHOUT
|
||
actually having a Hayes compatible modem. You must request the
|
||
host to poll you every night and PICKUP your mail. A simple auto
|
||
answer modem is then sufficient and the scheme is also very cost
|
||
efficient if you have mail beyond an occasional message every
|
||
month. Please contact your country manager if you wish to be
|
||
"polled".
|
||
|
||
In order to accommodate for all kind of modems, and to
|
||
accommodate for the mail "pickup" and "distribution" slots, the
|
||
European time slot must shift to an earlier hour to avoid the
|
||
distribution slot winding up in high rate hours in, for instance,
|
||
Finland. Also some early birds calling in will jump in the
|
||
middle of a mail slot.
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
Fidonews Page 17 9 Jun 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
THE WORLD OF COMPUTING
|
||
written by Reuven M. Lerner
|
||
FidoMail 107/233
|
||
|
||
|
||
It's been hectic for me these last few weeks. With a cold,
|
||
several article deadlines, and Passover, there has never been a
|
||
better time for me to speak about multitasking on microcomputers.
|
||
|
||
For those of you who don't know, multitasking is the ability
|
||
to do several things at the same time. For instance, if my DEC
|
||
VT180 was multitasking, I could not only do what I'm doing now
|
||
and write this column, but I could also compile my last big
|
||
program. Mainframes and minicomputers both use multitasking a
|
||
great deal; it's only been very recently that micros have had the
|
||
power to do it.
|
||
|
||
One of the best-known (and best loved/hated) multiuser,
|
||
multitasking operating systems is UNIX. Developed by Bell Labs,
|
||
it allowed one person to do more than one thing at a time, for
|
||
many different users. There were several problems with UNIX,
|
||
though, that restricted its use on micros.
|
||
|
||
Memory and storage were the biggest problem. The UNIX PC,
|
||
put out by AT&T, has a 10-megabyte drive that has nearly one-half
|
||
of its capacity used up just holding the operating system. Those
|
||
of us who use CP/M or MS-DOS know that the operating system
|
||
usually takes up a negligible 4-20K. 5 megabytes is a little much
|
||
to ask for out of a company that is experimenting with a new
|
||
operating system!
|
||
|
||
Another big problem of UNIX is that it is what could be
|
||
termed "user-hostile", being as far away from user-friendly as
|
||
possible. I've never used it myself, but the different articles
|
||
and books that give examples tell me that most businessmen aren't
|
||
going to want to sit down and learn strange commands just to find
|
||
out what files are on the disk.
|
||
|
||
Using Topview and Microsoft Windows as examples, we have
|
||
today limited multitasking for microcomputers. Both can be used
|
||
on any IBM machine, but are used best on the AT, with its
|
||
increased speed (now 8MHz, over 4.77MHz for the PC and XT) and
|
||
better graphics. The biggest problem, again, though, just like
|
||
UNIX, is memory and storage.
|
||
|
||
As Personal Computing magazine pointed out in their review of
|
||
Topview, they could easily fit 1-2-3 and WordStar and dBase III
|
||
into the AT with Topview, but then they had about 12K to work
|
||
with total! Even with the EMS (extended memory specification,
|
||
that allows you to use up to 4 Megabytes more) from
|
||
Lotus/Intel/Microsoft, there's still not a lot of room there.
|
||
Yet another problem is that it's slow. Even mainframes perform
|
||
more slowly when they have more terminals on-line; try loading 5
|
||
programs into your micro and waiting for them!
|
||
|
||
So that you IBM fans don't criticize me for not speaking
|
||
Fidonews Page 18 9 Jun 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
about multitasking on other computers, or the lack thereof, I'll
|
||
tell you that no other computer has it. Sure, the Mac has
|
||
Switcher, and the ST series (520 and 1040) have the potential,
|
||
and the Amiga has multitasking but no software to show for it.
|
||
Does anyone here think that Apple II+'s are going to be
|
||
multitasking soon? If you ask me, the new 68000 machines (ST's
|
||
and Amigas) will have it much sooner than the others.
|
||
|
||
If you ask me again, though, it may be a while until we get
|
||
true multitasking onto any micro.
|
||
|
||
|
||
Multicomputers
|
||
|
||
I told you once before that I have four computers at home: a
|
||
DEC VT180 (on which I'm writing this), a Fountain XT (an IBM
|
||
clone), a Seicom II+ (an Apple clone), and an Osborne 1. It
|
||
seems as though I'm going to need some format-changers pretty
|
||
soon, since I'm trying to do more and more work on different
|
||
machines. One of the biggest problems that I'm beginning to have
|
||
is with the modem on the DEC, a Qubie. Either a chip is loose,
|
||
or its just not working too great, or the Old Westbury phone
|
||
lines are as bad for computers as they are for humans, but the
|
||
modem likes to drop carrier a lot.
|
||
|
||
Anyway, what I tried to do a few weeks ago was transfer a
|
||
file from the Fountain to the DEC. After about an hour of trying
|
||
different methods, I finally gave up, and in desperation,
|
||
uploaded the file to my local Fido, downloaded it onto the other
|
||
machine, and presto! All done. There's got to be a better way.
|
||
Any ideas?
|
||
|
||
|
||
Software support
|
||
|
||
I just got off the phone with Borland International several
|
||
hours ago, regarding upgrading my Turbo Pascal to the IBM version
|
||
(with windowing, color graphics, and the like). I must say that
|
||
they are very easy to deal with, and responded quickly and
|
||
courteously to my questions. If only we had more companies like
|
||
them in the world. [Editor's note: Yeah, but don't look for
|
||
reviews of their stuff here. FidoNews doesn't qualify.]
|
||
|
||
One thing that I thought was excellent was the quality of
|
||
support. It wasn't an operator who told me that she didn't know
|
||
the answer, I got a knowledgeable person who could answer
|
||
everything that I needed.
|
||
|
||
For those of you who are considering doing what I did (trade
|
||
up from CP/M to IBM), I'll give you the information that they
|
||
gave me, so you won't have to call them. Basically, you get a
|
||
certain amount of credit toward newer or different versions.
|
||
Version 3.0 gives you $39.95, 1.0 and 2.0 are $29.95. You then
|
||
apply that credit toward the purchase of a newer or different
|
||
version, send in a check with your original master diskette, and
|
||
they'll send you back a diskette with the newer version on it.
|
||
Fidonews Page 19 9 Jun 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
Even though the Borland license is much easier to understand
|
||
that those of most other companies, I wasn't sure about if I was
|
||
allowed to keep copies of my old version of Pascal. If you are
|
||
interested in knowing, you aren't allowed to use the old
|
||
diskette. Actually, it's kind of easy to understand. The
|
||
license only applies to the diskette that you have in your
|
||
possession, and as you send in your original diskette and get
|
||
back a new one, you only are allowed to use the new one. Not
|
||
that I had so many programs in CP/M that I wanted to keep, but I
|
||
wasn't sure if I could still use both of them.
|
||
|
||
As an unsolicited plug, let me say that I advise each and
|
||
every one of you to go out and buy Turbo Pascal within the next
|
||
week. Unless you have some really weird machine, they've got a
|
||
version for you, and unless you would rather program in another
|
||
language, it's the best purchase you'll ever make (I have never
|
||
regretted switching to Pascal as my primary language).
|
||
|
||
|
||
Hot News! Hot News! (last-minute update)
|
||
|
||
I just found out that Pitney-Bowes is working on a facsimile
|
||
machine that will send and receive data using a modem! Although
|
||
it's still in the design stages, and won't be released for
|
||
another month or two, this has the potential to change a lot. I
|
||
came up with the idea (is anyone from P-B listening?) to use the
|
||
new Fastlink 10,000+ bps modem, which would enable Fax documents
|
||
to be transmitted in less than 20 seconds or so! Even without
|
||
the Fastlink, this is an incredible idea, one which may change
|
||
the face of faxes forever! I'll keep you people posted with the
|
||
news as I find it out.
|
||
|
||
|
||
Next time
|
||
|
||
As I said last time, I know that this is a short column, but
|
||
until I get myself past all of these different deadlines (next
|
||
week or so), and then an election campaign for my youth group
|
||
(which should be over by the time that you read this), and then
|
||
maybe even writing a few more programs, they may stay that way.
|
||
Depending on what I'm interested in next time, I may discuss
|
||
public-domain software, the future of BBS', computer English, or
|
||
any of a number of other things. We'll see. Until next time,
|
||
happy computing!!
|
||
|
||
|
||
(c)1986 Reuven M. Lerner. All Rights Reserved. Permission
|
||
is given to copy this column so long as it is for non-profit use.
|
||
If you wish to use it for other than non-profit use, write to the
|
||
author at 21 Old Westbury Road, Old Westbury, NY 11568, or at
|
||
FidoMail 107/233.
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Fidonews Page 20 9 Jun 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
WANTED
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
James Pallack
|
||
MINDSET FMUG - 16/635
|
||
|
||
Computer Related T-Shirts
|
||
|
||
Looking for T-Shirts that are imprinted with items relating to
|
||
computers. The first order would be a small purchase, but future
|
||
purchases could be in bulk. If you know of a retail and/or
|
||
wholesale company that deals in this market, the information
|
||
would be appreciated.
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Fidonews Page 21 9 Jun 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
FOR SALE
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
ENTERTAINMENT SOFTWARE FOR YOUR PC!
|
||
|
||
SUPERDOTS! KALAH!
|
||
|
||
Professional quality games include PASCAL source! From the
|
||
author of KALAH Version 1.6, SuperDots, a variation of the
|
||
popular pencil/paper DOTS game, has MAGIC and HIDDEN DOT
|
||
options. KALAH 1.7 is an African strategy game requiring
|
||
skill to manipulate pegs around a playing board. Both games
|
||
use the ANSI Escape sequences provided with the ANSI.SYS
|
||
device driver for the IBM-PC, or built into the firmware on
|
||
the DEC Rainbow. Only $19.95 each or $39.95 for both
|
||
exciting games! Please specify version and disk format.
|
||
These games have been written in standard TURBO-PASCAL and
|
||
run on the IBM-PC, DEC Rainbow 100 (MSDOS and CPM), CPM/80,
|
||
CPM/86, and PDP-11. Other disk formats are available, but
|
||
minor customization may be required.
|
||
|
||
BSS Software
|
||
P.O. Box 3827
|
||
Cherry Hill, NJ 08034
|
||
|
||
|
||
For every order placed, a donation will be made to the Fido
|
||
coordinators! Also, if you have a previous version of KALAH
|
||
and send me a donation, a portion of that donation will also
|
||
be sent to the coordinators. When you place an order, BE
|
||
CERTAIN TO MENTION WHERE YOU SAW THE AD since it also
|
||
appears in PC Magazine and Digital Review.
|
||
|
||
Questions and comments can be sent to:
|
||
|
||
Brian Sietz at Fido 107/17
|
||
(609) 429-6630 300/1200/2400 baud
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Fidonews Page 22 9 Jun 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
NOTICES
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
The Interrupt Stack
|
||
|
||
|
||
14 Jun 1986
|
||
The Next Occasional MetroNet Sysop Meeting, to be held in West
|
||
Milford, New Jersey. Contact The Wizard at node 107/16 for
|
||
details and directions.
|
||
|
||
14 Aug 1986
|
||
Start of the International FidoNet Conference, Colorado
|
||
Springs, Colorado. Contact George Wing at node 128/13 for
|
||
details.
|
||
|
||
24 Aug 1989
|
||
Voyager 2 passes Neptune.
|
||
|
||
|
||
If you have something which you would like to see on this
|
||
calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1/1.
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Gruesome George by Bruce White, 109/612
|
||
+-------------------------------------------------+
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| Hey, the memory exansion module works! |
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|_ Now it has twice the memory! |
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| \ ===== \ |
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| \ \ |
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| George, you forgot \ |
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| to pick up Jimmy at \ ____\__ |
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| school again. I wish \ |_| \ |
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| I could double your _____ |\ |
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| memory! ==== | _ | | |
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| ______ | |_| | | |
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| __(______)_|_____|___ | |
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| ||-----------------|| | |
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| ______ || || | |
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| \ {} / || || | |
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|(c) 1986 bw \__/ ||-----------------||__|__|
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James Pallack, 16/635
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MINDSET Conference using EchoMail
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I am looking for Fido's around the U.S. that are willing to
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participate in a conference for the MINDSET computer. This would
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be using the EchoMail software and dedicating a message section
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to the conference.
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Fidonews Page 23 9 Jun 1986
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If you are interested or am willing to have this conference on
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your BBS. Please contact me via FidoNet at 16/635. If you are
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interested in participating, but don't have the funds for the
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service, please contact me anyway. Arrangements can be worked
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out (e.g. I'll pick up the mail).
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