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fidonews -- 19 Feb 85 20:25:31 Page 1
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Volume 2, Number 4 19 Feb 85
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Editor: Tom Jennings
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Publisher: Fido #1
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Chief Procrastinator: Tom Jennings
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Disclaimer or dont-blame-me:
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The contents of the articles contained here are not
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my responsibility, nor do I necessarily agree with them;
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everything here is subject to debate. I publish EVERYTHING
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received.
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You can take this to mean anything you want, but
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hopefully as an invitation to comment, make suggestions, or
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write articles of your own.
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HOT NEWS
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Yes, the newsletter is late. Once again.
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I had to reject a couple of newslatter articles
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cause I could not handle the text format I was supplied.
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Most, though, are just fine, and many thanks to the people
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who gave me text files I can use without manual editing.
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I have semi-smart software that can reformat
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paragraphs from almost any editor, but the problem is tables
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of items get destroyed in the process. In the past, I edited
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them manually, but it's something like half an hour a piece.
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Bumper stickers aren't selling too well; I'm stuck
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here with over 400 left! They're cheap: I'll repeat myself.
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Fido Bumper Stickers, the little doggie, the legend
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fidonews -- 19 Feb 85 20:25:37 Page 2
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"FidoNet Bulletin Board Network" along the bottom, black on
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white, with space for your phone number and so on.
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3 Stickers $1.00
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20 Stickers $5.00
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A SASE is very helpful; I'll thrown in a fourth
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sticker if you send me an SASE. Oh yes, the address:
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Tom Jennings
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2269 Market St. #118
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San Francisco CA 94114
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fidonews -- 19 Feb 85 20:25:38 Page 3
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NEWS
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ARTICLE SUBMISSION
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All articles you see in this issue are written by
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users and sysops, and have one way or another managed to
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consume disk space on Fido #1. In order to get rid of them,
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and free up my precious disk space, I include them here,
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then quickly delete them. Then they are YOUR problem.
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EDITORIAL CONTENT:
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Totally up to you; I publish anything at all.
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Article are generally Fido or BBS related; this is by no
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means a decision on my part, nor a requirement.
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FOR SALE, WANTED, NOTICES:
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Pretty much self explanatory. Commercial ads are
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welcomed, if of reasonable length. These will be run each
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issue, or until I lose them. (Dont laugh, Ive already lost a
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few.)
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SUBMITTING AN ARTICLE:
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Manage to get a copy of your article to Fido #1,
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preferably by Fidonet mail, or by uploading. If manual
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upload, please put it in the MAILFILE area, so that I can
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find them all at once.
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ARTICLE FORMAT: VERY IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ!
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The requirements are a little tighter in this
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department, due to purely practical constraints. I cannot
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devote hours to converting every text format in the world to
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the one I use.
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1. NO LEFT MARGINS! Flush left please. These are
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extremely difficult to remove.
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2. RIGHT MARGIN AT COLUMN 60 OR LESS! Less is OK,
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more is definitely not. This includes fancy
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boxes, dotted lines, etc.
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3. KEEP FUNNY CONTROL CHARACTERS TO A MINIMUM!
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This includes formfeeds and other oddities.
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These areent as dificult to handle, but on long
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files still takes a while.
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4. WORDSTAR IS FINE IF THERE ARE NO LEFT MARGINS!
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5. PLAIN ASCII (EDLIN, ED, etc) IS FINE IF LINE LENGTH
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IS UNDER 60 COLUMNS!
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6. NO GRAPHIC CHARACTERS! Believe it or not, not every
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one in the world has an IBM PC. My computer
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understands printable characters from 20 hex to
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fidonews -- 19 Feb 85 20:25:44 Page 4
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7e hex. (Space to tilde) This is ASCII; "American
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Standard Code for Information Interchange". We are
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"Interchanging Information". Everything else is
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GARBAGE. ASCII is universal; Graphics are not.
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7. TOTAL ARTICLE LENGTH: Up to you; note, however, that
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I will probably avoid publishing dictionaries,
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bibles translated into NAPLPS, and ASCII encoded
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LANDSAT pictures of Russian wheat farms.
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8. WHERE ON EARTH IS THIS ARTICLE FROM? Well ... good
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question! A good idea to identify yourself
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somewhere, unless you wish to remain anonymous.
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Thats OK too, but I may balk at publishing rude
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or otherwise racy submissions.
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9. AN EXAMPLE:
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Article from Tom Jennings
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Fido #1 4 Feb 85
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Here is what an article could look like for
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submission. Very simple: plain old dumb ASCII, WordStar,
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PMATE, Vedit, or whatever. WordStar Document mode is fine.
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Note no left column; that is done when FidoNews is
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published. Note the total width is only 60 columns; it looks
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narrow on your screen, but fine when formatted later.
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END irrational tirade on text files ... on to bigger
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and better things!
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I figured out that what I initially interpreted as a
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security breach was really just Fido protecting me. I use
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my name for my sign on with Sysop level priveleges. I
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found a private message to 'Sysop' from 'Allen Miller' which
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I knew I did not enter. My first thought was that someone
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had gotten or guessed my password and would have had full
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access to the system. I reviewed the callers log and did
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not see a sign on with my name at or around the time that
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this message was recorded. I do not give access to the Name
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change command to normal users, even though Fido should not
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let them change to a name that already exists.
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After this initial panic, it finally dawned on me. There is
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a way that a user can enter a private message to the sysop
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without having their name entered in the SYSOP.LOG file.
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It's the 'forgotten password' routine. Three More ?
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incorrect guesses at a password, and they are taken directly
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to 'enter a private message to sysop'.
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Sooooooooo, everything is safe once again. Even though
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someone was able to create a message from me, 'Allen
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Miller', they were not on the system with my privelege
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level as I had initially feared. Just wanted to share this
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fidonews -- 19 Feb 85 20:25:51 Page 5
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with you.
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Allen Miller Fido 85NetWare Column #2 3-Feb-85
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Last time, I proposed a network wide software development
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project, in particular, a tool to transform datasets of
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popular micro (and mini) computer software packages
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between each other.
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There are three major factors that influence the potential
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success of such a project. The first is the precision of
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the initial design. Assuming we all agree on the target
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(disagreement is welcome!), in future issues, I will
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present some of my ideas on the overall design, as well as
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those that hopefully will be pouring in from FidoLand. In
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general, I believe it will take weeks or months to arrive
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at a precise specification of any of these projects,
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longer on this first one.
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The second major factor is choice of tools. At an obvious
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level, this means development language(s). There are a
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wide variety of choices. MicroSoft Basic comes to mind.
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Assembler does too, but we should try for at least an
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appearance of planning for the future, and non-PC's.
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Turbo Pascal would be my choice. If this is used, should
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the Toolbox be used as well?
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There are sound arguments for using the MS development
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family - that way everyone can use the language of their
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choice (so long as its in the family). There are
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ramifications to such a choice. The central site (more
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later) would have to have all the appropriate compilers,
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or act on faith that the source matched the objects
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provided by contributors. Another question is that of
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royalties (last time I asked, there were some when using
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MS-Basic compiled stuff.)
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For that matter, it should be possible to implement some
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or all of such a translator in FrameWork or Symphony
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itself (although it would run slowly, and could not
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succeed as a public domain project. You'd have to own
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Framework or Symphony ... kinda defeats the purpose.)
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Just as important but far less obvious is the selection of
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design documentation maintenance tools. It is ironic we
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have to consider this; if the project is successful, we
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will have a transformer to render the issue moot!
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However, for now, we have to decide what the form of our
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design documents will be. Not just in the logical form,
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or the physical appearance, but the tools used to produce
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same. My preference would be a high level text tool, such
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as Framework or ThinkTank. However, such tools cannot be
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assumed. About the most that should be is a word
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processor, and possibly text output processor standard.
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Should the specs be maintained using Wordstar, which I
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neither own nor intend to own? Or should we "be true to
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our school" and use PC-Write or DVEd or sumpin similar?
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fidonews -- 19 Feb 85 20:25:58 Page 6
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Or should the documents just be simple ASCII text files?
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If this is the case, do we have carriage return (and
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possibly line feeds) to indicate lines or paragraphs? You
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get the point ... and we have not even considered headings
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and subheadings and page numbering, etc.
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A third aspect of the choice of tools is the use of style
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of their use. Under almost any conditions, I would rather
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have a copiously documented, albeit inefficient MS Basic
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program than a totally uncommented assembly language
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program. Before I dropped out, UMass professors taught me
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that a well documented program with bugs is worth more
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than an undocumented one that runs. The former, you can
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fix now, and later, when you will inevitably change it.
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The latter you can do neither to. What stylistic
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standards should we use, and how do we handle
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contributions not meeting any of the standards we
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establish? (One solution might be to have two releases -
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the frozen and official one, and one which is "beta test",
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including modules that do not come up to snuff.)
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The final major consideration is the control of the "true"
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product. Any public domain product with source provided
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undergoes mutation. That's the whole point, hopefully the
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mutations will be improvements. In this particular
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product, mutation (in the form of added tool support) is a
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planned part of the growth. There must be a careful
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control of the "official master" sources and
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specifications, and a method for "checking in and out"
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modules. Another function of such a center is the testing
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of the new integrations, and distribution of same. This
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testing is not as easy as it sounds, for reasons similar
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to the use of variant development languages ... the
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testor(s) will have to have each of the transformed tools,
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or an elaborate project wide testing mechanism will have
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to be designed. (The latter will probably be the case.
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It will involve the construction of worst case datasets by
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the owners of the individual tools, which will be
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submitted with the master code.)
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The distribution of new versions will get to be an
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expensive proposition, and a difficult one. There are a
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number of projects going on the net that involve what I
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refer to as "publication" functions. These include the
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newsletter, and the distribution of the routing
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information weekly. There is also a library project under
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discussion (which seems a great idea that will also clog
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the net).
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The ability to send a file once to a local host, and then
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have it distributed to one or more of the Fido's served by
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that host is essential both for the success of this
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project, and the ability of the net to handle publication
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class without clogging out message class traffic.
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Last time, we got our first comment. It was from the
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fidonews -- 19 Feb 85 20:26:06 Page 7
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editor, regarding the technical quality of Kermit. What
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Tom said may or may not be true; however, the point was
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that Kermit is successful because it covers a wider
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variety machines than any public domain comm tool, and
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nearly all proprietary packages. (If you go by my
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criteria, which is diversity, there are only two packages
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I know of that even think about Kermit's range: Blast and
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Poly-XFer.) This ability in turn was due to the fact that
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people intimately familiar with the particular machines
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took the generic Kermit spec and did an implementation.
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Kermit is useful to our shop because I can transfer data
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between any of the diverse machines we use. There might
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be some vagaries, but by and large, it works, especially
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under the direct link conditions we tend to use it. This
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is more valuable to us than a tool that transfers
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"perfectly" between a more limited range of machines.
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This same general goal is one I have for this project.
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For instance, I am much more concerned with the ability to
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transfer data between a wide variety of spreadsheets than
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I am to be able to transfer the equations. I would like
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to transfer the equations, and it is a longer term goal of
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the project to do so as well. We will design the beast in
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such away to allow future perfection in each of the
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particular transforms, but for now, a bunch of minimal
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implementations is more useful to the project. (It gets
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more people involved, and gets results quicker, which will
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get more people involved.)
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If what Tom says about Kermit's technical deficiencies is
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true (and I have no reason to doubt him, although it is
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known he does not like the C implementation of Kermit a
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whet!), the problem was in the initial design, not the
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specific implementations. The point to this project is to
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go the Kermit development project one better. In that
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project, the implementation development was distributed.
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In these, the design can be as well. How successful this
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is is up to you the reader. You the participant.
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Next time, I will present my overall ideas on the
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structure of the conversion tool, and hopefully, some of
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your ideas on this, or other potential net-wide projects.
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As always, direct any response to Fido 336, Berkshire,
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(714) 632-9117.
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fidonews -- 19 Feb 85 20:26:15 Page 8
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Fido and AT&T 6300 + Prometheus 1200 Modem From Justin
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Marquez, SysOp Fido 60 - Artichoke - Houston,TX
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Using Fido on the AT&T is very easy. Pretend your AT&T
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is an IBM and truck on into BBS-land. Now that the AT&T
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matter is out of the way, let's go on to the fun part....
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The Prometheus ProModem 1200 is a fine modem, offering
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all of the Hayes' Smartmodem command set and more.
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Unfortunately, you'll have to perform a partial lobotomy on
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the ProModem for Fido's benefit. (You can get up now; said
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lobotomy is temporary. All 10 of the Prometheus' switches
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are accessible from the outside, so setting or resetting
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fidonews -- 19 Feb 85 20:26:21 Page 9
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isn't a hassle. ) Set Prometheus' switches as follows for
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Fido use one of these as a starting point :
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Switch Number Setting (Alternate Setting)
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1 ON ON
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2 ON ON
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3 ON ON
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4 ON OFF
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5 OFF ON
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6 ON ON
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7 OFF ON
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8 OFF ON
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9 ON ON
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10 OFF OFF
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I have used both settings as a test, and they are
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workable. Note the Switches #3 and #9 are the ones which
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turn the Prometheus Promodem 1200 into an ordinary Hayes
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1200 when they are ON. In the OFF position, they allow
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automatic re-dialing from within the MODEM's control (not
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nice for Fido use !!) and allow an extended message set to
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be in effect (BUSY, WILL RE-DIAL IN 30 SECONDS.....) which
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would probably confuse poor Fido, smart though he may be.
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Use 128/V as the CD-Bit Switch, and use the same
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FIDOMDM.BBS file as recommended for the Hayes 1200B, if you
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insist on using a FIDOMDM.BBS file at all. I nearly gave up
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on the Pro1200 for Fido use, until I discovered I had a
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"custom" RS-232 cable, inherited from the previous occupant
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of this computer (IBM at the office, not the AT&T). I bought
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the Pro1200 for home use, as I'm broke all the time, and was
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trying to save money with the Pro1200. When I plugged it
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into the office machine to try out, it worked with EVERTHING
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except Fido. When I got an AT&T for the home use, I tried
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out all the software I had access to on it, including Fido.
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And lo and behold, it worked flawlessly. Being a curious
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sort, I brought the Pro1200 and cable from the house to the
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office, and that combo worked on the IBM-PC at the office!
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Of course, I've always had to use 32/V for the PC, so I knew
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something was kinky. Anybody want a STRANGE cable.........
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From: Mark Welch, San Francisco
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via Fido #104, BYTEnet_Listings, Peterborough, NH
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To: Sysops with high FidoNet node numbers
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I've been operating a private "test node" Fido and made a
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discovery which may be of interest to other FidoNet users,
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especially newer Sysops who have a relatively high node number.
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Now that there are almost 200 nodes, having your number at the
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end of the NODELIST causes a delay every time Fido tries to
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figure out who is sending or receiving a particular piece of
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mail. I was sending mail from my test fido, whose number was
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at the end of the list, to Fido just being brought up, whose
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"fake" number was at the end of the list. Fido would say
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fidonews -- 19 Feb 85 20:26:29 Page 10
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"Message 123 from Mark Welch on Fido1102,<long, long delay>
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WelchNet, SF"
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and then "To: John Smith on Fido 3000, <long, long delay>
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Revap_Data, Keene...NH"
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To fix this -- and reduce the delay to an almost imperceptible
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level -- move YOUR NODE information to the top of the list, and
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also move the information for commonly-called nodes up in the
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list. This is especially important if you're up in the 300 or 400
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block, since Fido apparently searches sequentially for your
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system's name for EVERY message it lists. I don't know what
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effect this might have on FidoNet -- it can't hurt the speed.
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I've noticed no side effects from having the NODELIST out of
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numeric order.
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Perhaps the folks who developed the NODELIST.EXE program could
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also get it to move things around in the nodelist file? I haven't
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tried the program yet; maybe it already does it....
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Date : Feb 15, 1985
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From : David Strickler, SYSOP of #45
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To : All FIDO sysops
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Re : 'bug' in file.bbs reader
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Just a quick note to let you all know I have found a strange
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problem (if you can call it that) in the reader for
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files.bbs in FIDO. When the lines that are left justified
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are read in, they are assumed to be files. Being human, we
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all have forgotten to indent a few times for comments
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in the file. This is not a big deal, and is easyly
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corrected with a text processor. Here's the 'bug':
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When there are 3 or more lines of text in a row that you
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have forgotten to space in, FIDO reads them in as one long
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file. This causes an '** OVERFLOW **' message, and
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bombs FIDO. FIDO drops to batch, and tries to restart, but
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locks up while booting.
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For all interested, I have a Rainbow 100 (A) with 256K and a
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Racal Vadic modem. Hope this helps some of you...
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Stricks
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By Thom Henderson, sysop of Fidonode 375
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Message Routing Failures
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or
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What Do You Do When a Host is Down?
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A good question, eh? Fidonet is already faster and cheaper
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than the U.S. Mail, but there is still a minimum turnaround
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fidonews -- 19 Feb 85 20:26:35 Page 11
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of two days. If you are sending to a local whose host is
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down for the night, the lag extends even longer. It is
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somewhat disconcerting to check your mail log in the morning
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only to find that a message you entered for node XYZ didn't
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go through just because node ABC, his host, had a problem.
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So what does one do to handle this case? Well, we found a
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solution, though it might not suit everyone.
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We figured that the locals would probably be receiving for a
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half an hour after national mail hour, so that they can get
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their messages from their host. So we set up a second
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transmission schedule during that slot, where any messages
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that didn't go during the national hour get sent again
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without any routing. We haven't been doing this for long,
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but it has already "backstopped" the routing schedule on two
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separate occasions.
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This method does have a couple of drawbacks. The biggest is
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that it can cost more money. You might end up paying for
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five calls where you would have only paid for one.
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Also, I can already imagine the screams from some folks
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about how this would trash the whole network routing scheme.
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Still, assuming that host outages are rare, this seems to me
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to be a viable method of making the whole Fidonet system
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more robust.
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Your comments, of course, are always appreciated.
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NOTICES
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As a matter of brief introduction, I am Bill
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Macneill, SYSOP of FIDO node #202 in Boston, Massachusetts
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(1-617-721-1688).
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Recently, one of the members of my Board (DEC-Line
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-- a DEC Micro oriented board) uploaded a game file known as
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JETSET.BAS...a jet plane simulator, and one of the great
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classic public domain games. The problem with JETSET,
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however, is that it is SOOOOOOO SLOWWWWWWW!
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I would very much like the readers of this
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newsletter to advise me as to whether JETSET has been
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compiled to operate directly as an 'executable' under the
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MSDOS operating environment. If one of you is familiar with
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such a file, please advise me where I can obtain a copy...or
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even better, why don't you just call and upload to DEC-
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Line?? Again, we are at 1-617-721-1688 in Boston....
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Bill Macneill, SYSOP
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DEC-Line FIDO#202
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fidonews -- 19 Feb 85 20:26:41 Page 12
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FOR SALE
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I HAVE 2 NEW 20 MEG HARD DRIVES WHICH ARE EXTERNAL
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WITH CASE AND POWER SUPPLY, CABLES AND CONTROLLER CARDS.
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COVERED BY ONE YEAR WARRANTY.
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DRIVES MADE BY CMI. CONTROLLER-DTC CARD.
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EACH UNTIL IS SELLING FOR $1375.00
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ALL ARE BRAND NEW IN THE BOX WITH FULL DOC'S
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CONTACT RICHARD LEVEY VIA FIDO 79.
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We now have the PC to XT upgrade chip in stock for immediate
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delivery. This chip allows your PC to emulate the XT in
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speed for both super fast disk access, and super fast memory
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access. The boot up time for a 640K machine complete with
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TOTAL ram check is a mere 20 seconds...not 3 MINUTES !!!!!
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The chip is a ROM replacement easily installed by any PC
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owner. We sell the chip for $145.00 shipping included.
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CONTACT SYSOP NODE 357 FOR DETAILS OR TO ORDER.
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DELAER INQUIRIES INVITED !!!!!
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I HAVE THE FOLLOWING FOR SALE AT THIS TIME.
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1 D.S.D.D. DRIVE BRAND NEW NEVER USED
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2 S.S.D.D. DRIVES BRAND NEW NEVER USED
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ALL COVERED BY MANUFACTURERS WARRANTY.
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PACKAGE PRICE IS $200 (AMERICAN)
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CONTACT ME VIA NODE 79 UNTIL I GET MY
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NODE NUMBER.....RICHARD LEVEY
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--------------------- From: Robert E. Spivack Sysop Fido
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#346 (408) 972-8164
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Subject: For Sale!
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I have the following items for sale. If you are
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interested please drop me a note via Fidonet. (All prices
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are negotiable, all items sold on an "as is" basis.)
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CP/M-80 Software:
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Bottom Line Strategist (Eagle II) The Financial Planner
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(Eagle II) Star Accounting Partner (Eagle II) Friday (Eagle
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II) Microtax Client Write-up Software Money Maestro
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Supersoft Diagnostics II MITE Telecommunications (Eagle II)
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PC-DOS software:
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Zipco Visischedule Visiword Versaform Datafax Arlington
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Software Systems (telemarketing s/w) PC-Tutor Crossdata
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Hyper Typer Infotory Amber Language Knoware
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Other Operating Systems:
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VENIX/86 (6 Manuals)
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Computers:
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Eagle III Computer (I'll throw in some good Eagle Software)
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S-100 Boards:
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fidonews -- 19 Feb 85 20:26:46 Page 13
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Dynabyte 32 KB static ram Matco 64 KB static ram with full
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extended addressing Matco Prom programmer/emulator
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IBM PC Boards:
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4 Nestar NIC's (ARCNET local area network link boards)
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Microlog 256 KB ram board with ram Sigma Designs 256 KB ram
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board with ram Hayes Smartmodem 1200B
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Misc:
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Large roll thermal paper (80 column) Omninet Apple
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diagnostic controller board (peeping tom) Radio Shack
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acoustic coupler for Model 100
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PLEASE NOTE! I am not a dealer, discounter, or professional
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junk collector. I have just managed to acquire these
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bits 'n pieces over the past few years.
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FROM SYSOP:FIDO 357
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TO:ALL FIDO SYSOPS
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SUBJECT:TURBO 10 HARD DISK SALE
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WE ARE NOW IN A POSITION TO OFFER YOU THE FOLLOWING
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SPECIAL PRICES ON 10 MEGABYTE HARD DISK DRIVES FOR
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YOUR IBM PC'S.
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TURBO 10 10 MEG. HARD DRIVE WITH CONTROLLER CARD.
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300% FASTER THAN XT HARD DRIVE. MTBF 16,000 HOURS
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13 MONTH WARRANTY.................................
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RETAIL PRICE...........................$ 949.00
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OUR LOW FIDO SPECIAL PRICE.............. 775.00
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YOU SAVE A TOTAL OF....................$ 172.00
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AND GET THE HIGHEST RATED DRIVE IN THE INDUSTRY
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CONTACT:SYSOP-FIDO 357 FOR DETAILS AND ORDERING
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==================================================
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WANTED
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WANTED TO BUY: One used Gavilan computer.
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Send details (accessories, condition and price) to:
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Andy Meyer, FidoNet, Fido #317 - or contact Sysop of
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SMC-70 Citadel: (201) 930-6483 [24 hours, 300 baud]
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WANTED: INFO ON TANDON 8 INCH DRIVE
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I have a Tandon somethingorother-2, a double sided
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eight inch drive, half height. I do not have any docs on it,
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and need to know how to turn the drive motor off, if
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possible. Isn't it set up like a minifloppy?
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If you know what jumper, etc affects motor on/off,
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please send a msg to:
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fidonews -- 19 Feb 85 20:26:52 Page 14
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Tom Jennings
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FidoNode #1
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