textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1992/921103.ch

CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
11/03/92 01:04:10

You are caller 227867; next msg =45858;  386 active msgs.
Prev. call 11/01/92 @ 01:29, next msg was 45848
LOG.  10 
KILLED.  60 
SUMMARY.  25 

01:29:50,227834,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#45848,
E#45849,5
11/01/92,02:03:19,227835,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,
E#45850,9
11/01/92,02:25:13,227836,9,ERIC BOHLMAN,,2
11/01/92,06:44:28,227837,2,MAX KOHN,,
E#45851,
E#45852,8
11/01/92,10:18:00,227838,1,BOB SULLIVAN,,3
11/01/92,11:11:52,227839,2,JOE SEROCKI,,
E#45853,
E#45854,6
11/01/92,11:27:54,227840,1,BERNARD GOLDLUST,,2
11/01/92,11:45:15,227841,2,PAUL TADER,chicago il,1
11/01/92,13:08:47,227842,3,DAN PLUDE,Grand Rapids/MI,5
11/01/92,15:12:01,227843,2,STEVE RYAN,,2
11/01/92,16:11:17,227844,2,AL MOY,,7
11/01/92,17:19:58,227845,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,
E#45855,9
11/01/92,17:57:04,227846,9,DAVID GIBBS,,1
11/01/92,20:23:41,227847,1,DONNIE STUHLMAN,,3
11/01/92,20:57:14,227848,2,KEVIN KEYSER,,5
11/01/92,21:22:14,227849,2,RANDAL CRAIG,,4
11/01/92,22:07:00,227850,2,DONALD DOCKMAN,,2
11/01/92,22:46:16,227851,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,3
11/02/92,00:12:07,227852,2,BILL MATTSON,,2
11/02/92,07:31:15,227853,1,AL HIGGINS,,6
11/02/92,11:51:31,227854,2,RUSSELL PARKER,,
>Help: R2000,13
11/02/92,12:33:42,227855,2,TOM KOWALCZYK,,3
11/02/92,13:03:11,227856,2,BOB TAZBIER,,1
11/02/92,13:22:06,227857,2,DENNIS STAHL,,5
11/02/92,13:50:54,227858,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,2
11/02/92,15:08:23,227859,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
11/02/92,16:59:40,227860,2,BOB TAZBIER,,1
11/02/92,17:39:05,227861,3,HOWARD MARCUS,CHICAGO/IL,6
11/02/92,19:37:05,227862,2,MAX KOHN,,
>Help: A,
>Help: A,
11/02/92,19:45:20,227863,2,MAX KOHN,,
11/02/92,19:53:03,227864,2,MAX KOHN,,
E#45856,
E#45857,12
11/02/92,21:44:30,227865,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
11/03/92,00:14:33,227866,2,ROBERT VON BORSTEL,chicago/ il,5
11/03/92,01:04:13,227867,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
45848 11/01/92 WARD CHRISTENSEN => MAX KOHN: "R/80287 COPROCESSOR PROBLEMS"
45849 11/01/92 WARD CHRISTENSEN => MAX KOHN: "HELP"
45850 11/01/92 DAVID JOHNSON => ROY LIPSCOMB: "R/INTERNET VIA PUBNET?"
45851X 11/01/92 MAX KOHN => WARD CHRISTIANSEN: "HELP"
45852 11/01/92 MAX KOHN => WARD CHRISTIANSEN: "HELP"
45853 11/01/92 JOE SEROCKI => ALL: "GENERATOR FOR SALE"
45854 11/01/92 JOE SEROCKI => ALL: "DESKJET CARTS&DISKS 4SALE"
45855 11/01/92 JAMES SCHMIDT => ALL: "OS/2 SERVICE PAK"
45856 11/02/92 MAX KOHN => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/80287 COPROCESSOR PROBLEMS"
45857 11/02/92 MAX KOHN => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/HELP"

 - End of summary - 

Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.

Msg 45848 is 05 line(s) on 11/01/92 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to MAX KOHN re: R/80287 COPROCESSOR PROBLEMS

 It really DOES sound like your chip has a problem! Try re-seating it,
maybe even check if you accidentally bent a pin under ('287s are a DIP
type chip, right?).
 No problem dropping by only when you have problems. Just glad to have
you here at all ;-)

Msg 45849 is 06 line(s) on 11/01/92 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to MAX KOHN re: HELP

 You asked for help on "last". Sorry, that IS a logical keyword, but I'd
not put it in the help file. The way you find your last call is that it
is symbolically called "*" for the high msg, or # for info on your last call.
 Thus you can do "r" then when asked for a msg #, you can reply *, and if
you just want to find statistics about your last call (date, time, hi msg
#) then use the "#" command.

Msg 45850 is 06 line(s) on 11/01/92 from DAVID JOHNSON
to ROY LIPSCOMB re: R/INTERNET VIA PUBNET?

Although I wouldn't call it a "Pubnet", CPSnet (Chicago Public Schools BBS)
currently is allowing access to Inet (E-mail, Telnet and FTP by mail)
for free. The system is running Magpie software under Unix. Number is
312-535-8513. I manage the Internet Issues board over there (messages
are stored on a tree basis). If/when you log on, enter "29 J" without
the quotes, and you'll get to my subboard.
No msg 45851

Msg 45852 is 02 line(s) on 11/01/92 from MAX KOHN
to WARD CHRISTIANSEN re: HELP

How'd you know I'd ask about using the Help comand on word alibi.
/

Msg 45853 is 06 line(s) on 11/01/92 from JOE SEROCKI
to ALL re: GENERATOR FOR SALE

I have a 1.5kw/110v and 10amp/12v generator for sale. Asking $300 OBO.
Excellent condition, used abt 10 hrs, oil changed twice already.
Contact Joe at 708-402-7119 or 708-587-2398.
NO SHIPPING PLEASE, it's too heavy!
I am located in Ingleside, IL (nw suburbs) and can meet you some
where. Just call.

Msg 45854 is 02 line(s) on 11/01/92 from JOE SEROCKI
to ALL re: DESKJET CARTS&DISKS 4SALE

HP Deskjet cartridges and used 3.5" diskettes (DSDD and DSHD). Call Joe
at 708-587-2398 or 708-587-2388. Thanks. Best offer for all.

Msg 45855 is 15 line(s) on 11/01/92 from JAMES SCHMIDT
to ALL re: OS/2 SERVICE PAK

Hello OS/2'ers,
 As you are probably aware, the long awaited Service Pak (AP) is now
available via electronic downloading. If you don't have access to a
IBM SE and don't want to pay Compuserve the $200 to download the 20Mb
of diskette images I have an alternative solution.
I have both the 3.5" and 5.25" images and would be willing to produce a
copy for anyone who would supply the required number of blank diskettes.
It requires (14) 3.5" or (16) 5.25" diskettes. I live in Morton Grove, Il
which is just north of Chicago (9500 N and 7300 W). If you think you'd
like to make the treck out here some evening give me a call and we can
set up a date and time.
Days- 708-317-7485
Eve & Weekends 708-966-4321
James Schmidt
OS/2 Ambassador

Msg 45856 is 14 line(s) on 11/02/92 from MAX KOHN
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/80287 COPROCESSOR PROBLEMS

I tried re-seating the chip. No good. Error message persists.
I think it's a incompatibility problem. There is no place in my BIOS
setup to tell the system where the coprocessor is. According to what
I've read, the system SHOULD automatically detect the chip. Yet,
obviously, it is trying to use a part of memory already allocated to
another device. I seem to have a non-standard BIOS that doesn't have the
ability to allocate the same place in memory for devices as other systems do
and this causes me a lot of problems. I think I may eventually have to
replace my Quadel 1989 BIOS. <sigh> In the meantime, I will remove that
coprocessor and return it to the buyer. Thanks for your help.

By the way, what is a DIP chip? I didn't understand that reference. Thanx.

 Max

Msg 45857 is 04 line(s) on 11/02/92 from MAX KOHN
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/HELP

 I'd like to ask a question. How did you know I tried to ask for Help on
 "last"? I was just wondering. Anyway, I forgot how to find out where
I left off in reading messages and the number of the last message I read.
Thanks for reminding me.
dup. chars.
>Function:?
11/03/92 01:06:32
Connect time   2 minutes
..Please continue, WARD
>Function:?

01:29:50,227834,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#45848,
E#45849,5
11/01/92,02:03:19,227835,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,
E#45850,9
11/01/92,02:25:13,227836,9,ERIC BOHLMAN,,2
11/01/92,06:44:28,227837,2,MAX KOHN,,
E#45851,
E#45852,8
11/01/92,10:18:00,227838,1,BOB SULLIVAN,,3
11/01/92,11:11:52,227839,2,JOE SEROCKI,,
E#45853,
E#45854,6
11/01/92,11:27:54,227840,1,BERNARD GOLDLUST,,2
11/01/92,11:45:15,227841,2,PAUL TADER,chicago il,1
11/01/92,13:08:47,227842,3,DAN PLUDE,Grand Rapids/MI,5
11/01/92,15:12:01,227843,2,STEVE RYAN,,2
11/01/92,16:11:17,227844,2,AL MOY,,7
11/01/92,17:19:58,227845,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,
E#45855,9
11/01/92,17:57:04,227846,9,DAVID GIBBS,,1
11/01/92,20:23:41,227847,1,DONNIE STUHLMAN,,3
11/01/92,20:57:14,227848,2,KEVIN KEYSER,,5
11/01/92,21:22:14,227849,2,RANDAL CRAIG,,4
11/01/92,22:07:00,227850,2,DONALD DOCKMAN,,2
11/01/92,22:46:16,227851,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,3
11/02/92,00:12:07,227852,2,BILL MATTSON,,2
11/02/92,07:31:15,227853,1,AL HIGGINS,,6
11/02/92,11:51:31,227854,2,RUSSELL PARKER,,
>Help: R2000,13
11/02/92,12:33:42,227855,2,TOM KOWALCZYK,,3
11/02/92,13:03:11,227856,2,BOB TAZBIER,,1
11/02/92,13:22:06,227857,2,DENNIS STAHL,,5
11/02/92,13:50:54,227858,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,2
11/02/92,15:08:23,227859,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
11/02/92,16:59:40,227860,2,BOB TAZBIER,,1
11/02/92,17:39:05,227861,3,HOWARD MARCUS,CHICAGO/IL,6
11/02/92,19:37:05,227862,2,MAX KOHN,,
>Help: A,
>Help: A,
11/02/92,19:45:20,227863,2,MAX KOHN,,
11/02/92,19:53:03,227864,2,MAX KOHN,,
E#45856,
E#45857,12
11/02/92,21:44:30,227865,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
11/03/92,00:14:33,227866,2,ROBERT VON BORSTEL,chicago/ il,5
11/03/92,01:04:13,227867,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
>Function:?
PROTOCOL: ALT

COMPRESSION: NONE

CONNECT 2400/ARQ
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
11/03/92 22:39:07

Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss

Logging name to disk...
You are caller 227881; next msg =45865;  377 active msgs.
Prev. call 11/03/92 @ 01:04, next msg was 45858
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K t
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-10 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG.  11 
KILLED.  68 
SUMMARY.  25 
11/03/92,01:04:13,227867,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
11/03/92,01:15:27,227868,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#45858,
E#45859,
11/03/92,07:00:28,227869,2,PETE JONES,,1
11/03/92,08:20:59,227870,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2
11/03/92,11:37:06,227871,2,RYAN GRANDE,CHICAGO/IL,3
11/03/92,12:51:49,227872,2,JOEL GROSSMAN,,1
11/03/92,13:28:34,227873,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
11/03/92,17:05:43,227874,2,DALE SANDERS,Calgary Alberta,3
11/03/92,17:29:16,227875,1,LANE LARRISON,,
11/03/92,17:37:02,227876,1,LANE LARRISON,,3
11/03/92,18:04:46,227877,2,LYNN ANDERSON,,8
11/03/92,19:59:34,227878,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,
E#45860,11
11/03/92,21:23:42,227879,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,
E#45861,16
11/03/92,21:59:20,227880,1,TONY ANTONUCCI,,
E#45862,
E#45863,
E#45864,22
11/03/92,22:39:10,227881,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
45858 11/03/92 WARD CHRISTENSEN => MAX KOHN: "R/80287 COPROCESSOR PROBLEMS"
45859 11/03/92 WARD CHRISTENSEN => JOE SEROCKI: "R/DESKJET CARTS&DISKS 4SALE"
45860 11/03/92 ROY LIPSCOMB => DAVID JOHNSON: "R/INTERNET VIA PUBNET?"
45861 11/03/92 ANDY SHAPIRO => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/KEYBOARDS"
45862 11/03/92 TONY ANTONUCCI => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "FAX"
45863 11/03/92 TONY ANTONUCCI => WARD & ROY: "COMMAND.COM"
45864 11/03/92 TONY ANTONUCCI => WARD & ROY: "COMMAND.COM"

 - End of summary - 

Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.

Msg 45858 is 14 line(s) on 11/03/92 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to MAX KOHN re: R/80287 COPROCESSOR PROBLEMS

 DIP = Dual Inline Package. Means a typical "old" chip. Newer chips
such as 386, 486, etc are something different - Pin Grid Array or something
like that. DIP's "dual" means two rows of pins, "inline" means all the pins
are in a row (on each side) - I don't know, I recall there were packages
that had staggered rows of pins, perhaps that's why "inline" was part of
the name. An 8087 is a DIP package - 40 pins or more. SO my reference was
that if you have a pin grid array package, it would be harder to unplug
and reseat.
 How'd I know you wanted help on "LAST"? In an effort to supply a more
usable system, I logged the missed help words. This was very helpful in
the early days when I was building the help file. It didn't do any good
to have someone asking for help on something logical to them but that
I hadn't thought of, so the idea struck me to go ahead and see what things
folks were asking for that wasn't there. ;-)

Msg 45859 is 02 line(s) on 11/03/92 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to JOE SEROCKI re: R/DESKJET CARTS&DISKS 4SALE

Deskjet font cartridges? Deskjet Ink Cartridges?. If the latter,
black? Color? If black, regular or long life? Cost?

Msg 45860 is 01 line(s) on 11/03/92 from ROY LIPSCOMB
to DAVID JOHNSON re: R/INTERNET VIA PUBNET?

Thanks, David. I'll give it a try.

Msg 45861 is 25 line(s) on 11/03/92 from ANDY SHAPIRO
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/KEYBOARDS

Ward, you sure don't ask for much, do you? I'd try calling the nice folks
at Lexmark. I didn't think I liked them, at first. You will recall how
much I liked the kb that came with my CompuAdd Express machine - made by
BTC, very solid. Well, I ordered another for my home machine, and got
a Lexmark keyboard instead. It seems the Express folks switched sources
because Lexmark is trying to get into the businss bigtime (cheap). Anyway,
the feel is nice (about like an IBM, but quieter). It's rubber dome or
somesuch, with a nice feel. Well-laid out, a nice long (straight/flat)
cable, and fairly light, but with a solid feel.

The one thing it lacks is your (and my) choice of control key, and of cours
it has no switch. But Lexmark is advertising for the retail market these
days, and may have something more to your liking.

To be honest, I think that I've finally gotten used to the lower-left
control key. I have a program to switch things on my work machine, but
I seldom use it. Just like I got used to the F-keys across the top - but
then I have large hands, which may have made the switch easier.

The only thing I can't get used to is GUIs. Maybe if I had a touch-
screen they'd make sense. Right now, I'm in the process of paring
down a Windows 3.0 installation so I can run the occasional bit of
software without 5 MB of junk. OS/2 sounds pretty good, though. Have you
taken a look at 4OS/2? It's from the same folks who make 4DOS, whic
is a MUST for DOS.

Msg 45862 is 17 line(s) on 11/03/92 from TONY ANTONUCCI
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: FAX

I have the Intel Satisfaxion board. I have the older one with a 2400
baud modem. I just did "upgrade" it from Intel. It now has the ability
to switch "auto-magically" between FAX/modem calls.
I used to use FAXit from Alien computing.came with the board. Its a
Windows program. (I have never used the FAX under DOS, but the Intel
software claims to be able to.
With the "upgrade" I got Faxability Plus.a somewhat better package under
Windows. Has a database of fax destinations, can add cover sheets (with
artwork), keeps logs of in/outbound faxes, delayed sends, etc. Its pretty
nice. I have limited fax needs, but will admit to not being able to live
witout it now! Its nice to be able to fax directly out of any windows
app. that can print. Sometimes I am on the phone with an associate
and we are taking about a data structure for example. To be sure we
both understand the format we fax a quick sketch, while still talking.
(I'm gettin some line noise!)
L'me know what else ya wanta know.
Again, good to have CBBS back!

Msg 45863 is 09 line(s) on 11/03/92 from TONY ANTONUCCI
to WARD & ROY re: COMMAND.COM

All COMMAND.COMs are not created equal. I wrote a quick & dirty little
program that checks the 32 CRC value of command.com when run. I put this
in my AUTOEXEC.BAT to check command.com everytime I boot. About 30% of
all computer viruses attack/attach to command.com.
If your interested in the program its available on my BBS at 991-3894 or
991-3895.
All CBBSers are welcome there. I will post a bulletin to sent callers to
CBBS. I want to see the "history" continue, plus I am a piece of history
as I think I am the first asst. sysop on the world's first BBS!

Msg 45864 is 05 line(s) on 11/03/92 from TONY ANTONUCCI
to WARD & ROY re: COMMAND.COM

Cont. from last msg. I lost my train of thought. in the last msg.
In my CHKCMD program I had to build in the CRC from as many different
COMMAND.COMs as I could find. Never found any two that generated the
same CRC, even ones that were the same size. If nothing else the
output of the VER command, would make every OEM version different.