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432 lines
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CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
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07/05/91 00:13:42
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Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
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?^U
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?^U
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?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
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Logging name to disk...
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You are caller 222423; next msg =44945; 374 active msgs.
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Prev. call 07/02/91 @ 07:33, next msg was 44929
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Recording logon for next time...
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Use FULL? to check assignments
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?^U
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?xxxxx
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"Mine" command checking f
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>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
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LOG. 5
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KILLED. 10
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SUMMARY. 25
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07/02/91,07:33:13,222376,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
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07/02/91,07:37:59,222377,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
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E#44929,
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E#44930,
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07/02/91,07:46:52,222378,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
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E#44931,
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E#44932,15
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07/02/91,09:46:48,222379,2,DON PIVEN,,2
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07/02/91,09:51:40,222380,2,BOB JOHNSTON,,3
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07/02/91,12:16:22,222381,1,DAVID JOHNSON,,10
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07/02/91,14:17:56,222382,2,BILL WOLFF,,1
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07/02/91,15:01:21,222383,2,CLIFF SHARP,,
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E#44933,
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E#44934,
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E#44935,15
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07/02/91,15:55:41,222384,1,LANE LARRISON,,
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07/02/91,18:34:06,222385,1,MIKE KAVADIAS,,5
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07/02/91,19:22:05,222386,9,IRA SACHS,Evanston/ Il,
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07/02/91,19:49:02,222387,9,BEN TEIFELD,,7
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07/02/91,21:10:54,222388,2,JOHN SERRANO,,
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E#44936,7
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07/02/91,21:27:12,222389,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,3
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07/02/91,21:40:17,222390,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,2
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07/02/91,22:30:00,222391,9,THOM QUICK,,2
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07/02/91,23:25:31,222392,2,JOHN ADAMOWSKI,BENSENVILLE,
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>Help: //,
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>Help: //,41
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]THANKS FOR THE TIME AND USE OF THIS BBS, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY YET,
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BUT HOPEFULLY I WILL IN THE FUTURE.
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JOHN ADAMOWSKI,
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07/03/91,00:08:24,222393,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
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E#44937,4
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07/03/91,00:21:44,222394,3,FERNANDO MARTINEZ,CURITIBA/PARANA,20
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07/03/91,06:14:07,222395,1,ANDY SHAPIRO,,4
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07/03/91,06:38:03,222396,2,PETE JONES,,1
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07/03/91,09:21:49,222397,2,ED FOSTER,,
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E#44938,
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E#44939,6
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07/03/91,10:07:16,222398,3,N KIND,,6
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07/03/91,10:11:04,222399,3,N KIND,,9
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07/03/91,12:34:30,222400,1,JOE SEROCKI,,
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E#44940,4
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07/03/91,16:15:25,222401,2,BILL GRZANICH,WAUKEGAN IL,4
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07/03/91,18:37:34,222402,2,LARRY GLASSMAN,,1
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07/03/91,18:56:23,222403,2,BILL WOLFF,,3
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07/03/91,19:39:00,222404,2,BILL MATTSON,,2
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07/03/91,21:27:02,222405,2,JOHN SERRANO,,1
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07/03/91,21:41:10,222406,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,
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E#44941,28
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07/04/91,00:38:07,222407,2,BILL COLEMAN,,11
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]BILL COLEMAN,
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07/04/91,01:50:06,222408,2,CHARLIE KESTNER,,11
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07/04/91,07:07:04,222409,2,KEVIN KEYSER,,18
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07/04/91,09:33:54,222410,9,HARV MILLMAN,,1
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07/04/91,10:45:01,222411,1,PETER FLIEGEL,,8
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07/04/91,11:02:01,222412,2,ALEX ZELL,,
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07/04/91,11:41:43,222413,2,JOHN SERRANO,,5
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07/04/91,11:52:47,222414,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,6
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07/04/91,13:07:53,222415,9,JAMES KARAGANIS,,
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E#44942,
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E#44943,8
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07/04/91,15:48:29,222416,1,ANDY SHAPIRO,,
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E#44944,7
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07/04/91,16:51:34,222417,9,BEN TEIFELD,,2
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07/04/91,18:21:50,222418,9,JIM POLOUS,,8
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07/04/91,18:34:34,222419,9,DAVID GIBBS,,1
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07/04/91,18:52:12,222420,2,LARRY GLASSMAN,,1
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07/04/91,20:40:50,222421,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
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07/04/91,21:16:40,222422,2,JEFF GORDON,,
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07/05/91,00:13:46,222423,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
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44929 07/02/91 WARD CHRISTENSEN => MICHAEL SHARTIAG: "R/NEED LAYOUT OF RODIME 2024"
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44930X 07/02/91 WARD CHRISTENSEN => MICHAEL SHARTIAG: "R/NEED LAYOUT OF RODIME 2024"
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44931 07/02/91 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALA LUKE: "CBBS"
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44932 07/02/91 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALA LUKE: "CBBS"
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44933 07/02/91 CLIFF SHARP => BILL WOLFF: "R/POWER-OFF CONTROVERSY"
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44934 07/02/91 CLIFF SHARP => MURRAY ARNOW: "R/CRT LIFETIMES"
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44935 07/02/91 CLIFF SHARP => MURRAY ARNOW: "R/CRT LIFETIMES"
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44936 07/02/91 JOHN SERRANO => ALL: "LOOKING FOR A KEYBOARD"
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44937 07/03/91 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "HARD DISK WOES"
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44938 07/03/91 ED FOSTER => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/MODEM CONNECT"
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44939 07/03/91 ED FOSTER => ALL: "CRT LIFETIMES"
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44940 07/03/91 JOE SEROCKI => ALL: "RC AIRCRAFT WANTED"
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44941 07/03/91 MURRAY ARNOW => ED FOSTER: "R/CRT LIFETIMES"
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44942 07/04/91 JAMES KARAGANIS => JERRY OLSEN: "C BOOKS"
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44943 07/04/91 JAMES KARAGANIS => ALA LUKE: "C BOOKS"
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44944 07/04/91 ANDY SHAPIRO => THOM QUICK: "R/ZENITH 151 HELP"
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---- End of summary ----
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Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
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Msg 44929 is 27 line(s) on 07/02/91 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
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to MICHAEL SHARTIAG re: R/NEED LAYOUT OF RODIME 2024
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Here's a list of Rodime - doesn't have a 2024, but does have 202"x":
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RODIME 407-997-0774
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MODEL ST-506 CAP CYL H RWC WPC ENC RATE ACCESS SPT
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RO 101 5.25 FH 6 192 2 96 192 M 5 17
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RO 102 5.25 FH 12 192 4 96 192 M 5 17
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RO 103 5.25 FH 18 192 6 96 192 M 5 55 MS 17
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RO 104 5.25 FH 24 192 8 96 192 M 5 17
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RO 201 5.25 FH 5 321 2 132 300 M 5 85 MS 17
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RO 201E 5.25 FH 11 640 2 264 300 M 5 55 MS 17
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RO 202 5.25 HH 10 321 4 132 300 M 5 85 MS 17
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RO 202E 5.25 FH 21 640 4 264 300 M 5 55 MS 17
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RO 203 5.25 HH 15 321 6 132 300 M 5 85 MS 17
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RO 203E 5.25 FH 32 640 6 264 300 M 5 55 MS 17
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RO 204 5.25 FH 21 320 8 132 300 M 5 85 MS 17
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RO 204E 5.25 FH 43 640 8 264 300 M 5 55 MS 17
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RO 251 5.25 HH 5 306 2 307 307 M 5 85 MS 17
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RO 252 5.25 HH 11 306 4 64 128 M 5 85 MS 17
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RO 351 5 306 2 307 307 M 5 85 MS 17
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RO 352 3.5" 11 306 4 64 128 M 5 85 MS 17
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RO 365 3.5" 21 612 4 613 613 M 5 17
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RO 3045 37 872 5 873 - M 5 28 MS 17
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RO 3055 45 872 6 873 - M 5 28 MS 17
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RO 3065 53 872 7 - - M 5 28 MS 17
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RO 5065 5.25 HH 63 - 5 - - M 5 28 MS 17
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RO 5090 5.25 HH 89 1224 7 - - M 5 28 MS 17
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<cont'd>
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No msg 44930
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Msg 44931 is 20 line(s) on 07/02/91 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
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to ALA LUKE re: CBBS
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Please, as the bulletins say, don't call me "sysop" - I hate being treated
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generically! Also please use lower case! CBBS automatically translated
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your hard-to-read all-upper-case messages to lower case to make it easier
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for others - but they'd be more readable if you used normal lower case with
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upper case in the usual ways - EMPHASIS, etc.
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I don't know what you mean by "key commands on the screen". Do you mean
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the results of the ? command? Most communications programs allow you to
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capture to disk or print, so you can have a copy printed out and don't need
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to look at it online. I see you always enter things 40 columns wide - if
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you are running some kind of a system that supports only 40 columns, then I
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could see that you would have trouble - with EVERYTHING, and that isn't
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CBBS's problem. When CBBS was programmed in 1978, it handled 64 wide
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columns as that was the standard of those days for microcomputer displays,
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but soon went to 80 columns as more and more people got "real" CRTs for their
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systems.
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Finally, as you'll note from most messages, there is no need to address
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or sign your msgs, and the msg header does this very nicely for you. Also
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indenting an entire message does nothing. I GUESS I can't complain it wastes
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disk space as we have 5M free for msgs, but I just see no point in the
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information-less spaces in front of each line.
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Msg 44932 is 18 line(s) on 07/02/91 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
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to ALA LUKE re: CBBS
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Ooh, I forgot one thing: you commented on having to "scroll through
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tons of screens before I can execute a command". Do you know the standard
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means of suspending and continuing output on remote systems: the use of
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control-S to suspend, and control-Q to resume? With this, you can pause
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to see what is being given to you - apparently you don't or can't or
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haven't read all the "tons of screens" which are, among other things,
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telling you how to make use of CBBS.
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For example, when I log on, I am able to start entering a message with
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about 6 lines or less of information coming from CBBS. For example, after
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you've seen the bulletin or welcome, you can ^K them - just as it says you
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can. Pressing control-K will abort out of what you're doing. Once you've
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entered your name, you should get right to the command menu. Once you
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become an expert user - i.e. have memorized the few commands you need,
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you can run the "x" command to turn on the expert user flag which will
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stop sending you long prompts.
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Also, you can separate multiple commands with ";" so for example you
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can log on as: n;ala;luke;o;* to log on, and request a one-line summary
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of messages since your last call.
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Msg 44933 is 14 line(s) on 07/02/91 from CLIFF SHARP
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to BILL WOLFF re: R/POWER-OFF CONTROVERSY
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Hiya, Bill. Well, I wouldn't worry about screen burn these days what
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with all the screen savers (blankers) there are to choose from. But what
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I've noted about the situation is that leaving a set on most (if not all)
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of the day every day is that the cathode emission gradually goes down,
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and the cathode(s) develop a peculiarity such that they warm up VERY
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slowly (sometimes hours! before a good picture).
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The rejuvenators are good, as you say, and they're just as dangerous
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as you say they are. Some are better than others, I've found. A friend
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owns a really good one, and his tech knows that machine better than anyone
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else; I'm no slouch when it comes to that stuff, but when my CRT needs a
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shot and Pete is available I have HIM do it.
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The small voltage on the filaments of some sets is a good thing; but
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remember that with the set off, there's no cathode current, and it doesn't
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seem to affect the warmup thing.
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Msg 44934 is 04 line(s) on 07/02/91 from CLIFF SHARP
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to MURRAY ARNOW re: R/CRT LIFETIMES
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I always thought of the getter as being the actual anode of a CRT,
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and never thought of it as helping keep vacuum in the bottle. Now that
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I think of it, though, a metal deposition would certainly help hide the
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porousness of the glass. Interesting information one finds around here!
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Msg 44935 is 02 line(s) on 07/02/91 from CLIFF SHARP
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to MURRAY ARNOW re: R/CRT LIFETIMES
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Most interesting discussion! I had always wondered about the discoloration
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I see on so many old 25XP22 tubes (naturally, they're in VERY old sets!).
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Msg 44936 is 03 line(s) on 07/02/91 from JOHN SERRANO
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to ALL re: LOOKING FOR A KEYBOARD
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I have an IBM 84-key AT keyboard attached to my 386 clone. To put it
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bluntly, I don't care very much for the keyboard. I am looking for a
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genuine IBM Enhanced Keyboard for the AT, n.i.b., if possible. Thanks.
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Msg 44937 is 14 line(s) on 07/03/91 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
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to ALL re: HARD DISK WOES
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Well, it appears when it rains, it pours.
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Yesterday my Colorado Jumbo tape drive ate a tape, so my backup didn't
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work. I called Colorado, and 24 hrs later I've got a new drive in my
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hands. Unfortunately, my hard drive doesn't run now! Spins, but
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apparently the seek mechanism has given up the ghost. It gets "non
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system disk or disk error", meaning it is sitting on the boot track,
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and can't seek past that.
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Fortunately, when the Colorado died, I networked to my other system,
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and ran a backup tape to IT. Tonight, it seems that tape is unreadable!
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Aaaargh.
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Time to figure out what drive to get - a 100M or so IDE - with 8-bit
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controller. (I'm still running an 8mhz Bullet motherboard in my PC
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as a communications system). The drive that died is a 2.5 year old
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Priam half-height.
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Msg 44938 is 06 line(s) on 07/03/91 from ED FOSTER
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to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/MODEM CONNECT
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I have also experienced this phenomenon of having to dial twice for one
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connect. I'm using a Prometheus 2400 internal, and I find that I must
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recognize that it won't connect, break it myself, and redial after a few
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seconds. Occasionally that doesn't work either, and I have to cut back to
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1200 or wait until the next day.
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By the way, an acquaintance of mine calls this the "ocean" sound.
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Msg 44939 is 13 line(s) on 07/03/91 from ED FOSTER
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to ALL re: CRT LIFETIMES
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I had to chuckle at the estimate of 5K or 10K hours of CRT life, because
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I happened to be reading it on an 8-year-old monochrome monitor that has spent
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most of its 8-year life turned on. It is one of the original IBM PC monitors,
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and I like it because its extremely slow phosphor (P39 as I recall) gives
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almost no flicker. They're not making these anymore, and I hate to see this
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one go, so I use a screen saver with a 5-minute timer.
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"Slow" means that there is an after-image, so that the phosphor keeps glowing
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even after the electron beam has been suppressed. It makes the tube useless
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with light pens (remember them?), and I suspect that it also makes the screen
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vulnerable to permanent alteration by, perhaps, alteration to the molecular
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structure.
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You rarely see burn-in on a color CRT, mainly because the phosphors are
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faster and "harder", even though the electrons hitting them are moving faster.
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Msg 44940 is 02 line(s) on 07/03/91 from JOE SEROCKI
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to ALL re: RC AIRCRAFT WANTED
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I am looking for rc airplanes and helicopters and equipment. I can be
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reached at 708-632-8723. Thanks, Joe.
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Msg 44941 is 10 line(s) on 07/03/91 from MURRAY ARNOW
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to ED FOSTER re: R/CRT LIFETIMES
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I'm glad I gave you a chuckle. The fact is the lifetimes quoted were average
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lifetimes. The fact you have a tube that lasts longer is anecdotal. Also it
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is difficult to compare an old monitor performance to how it looked when it
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was new. You make all sorts of accomadations because you have a brightness
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control and your memory of how it looked when new is impaired. Your conjecture
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about the phosphors has what sort of basis. I have seen screen damage on color
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tubes. The screen damage was actually the glass becoming discolored. My
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info isn't anecdotal. I have a Ph.D. in physics and have been involved in
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designing CRT's and measuring their lifetimes. What I have been saying can
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be substantiated.
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Msg 44942 is 05 line(s) on 07/04/91 from JAMES KARAGANIS
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to JERRY OLSEN re: C BOOKS
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Jerry,
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Thanks for the info. My partner and I have decided to graduate from
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straight assembler coding to doing some projects in "C". Consequently,
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we decided to take a course in it ... the books you recommended should
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help. Thanks.
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Msg 44943 is 01 line(s) on 07/04/91 from JAMES KARAGANIS
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to ALA LUKE re: C BOOKS
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Thanks Ala, for the recommendations.
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Msg 44944 is 14 line(s) on 07/04/91 from ANDY SHAPIRO
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to THOM QUICK re: R/ZENITH 151 HELP
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Thanks for the info -- my machine has the video/floppy controller setup.
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I'm hoping to find a controller card for floppies only, and replace the
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current video with mono graphics. As to memory expansion, yes, I think
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a six-pak type setup would be best; that would give me clock space as well.
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There is a PAL on the market that will make the memory card take 246K
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chips, as well, and another that disables the CGA circuitry. We sha;;
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(shall) see how it goes. One other thing I like about the machine --
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unlike the IBM PC, which happily sucks air through every case opening
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and shoots it out the back, the Zenith models seem to have pressurized
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cases -- air flows OUT through openings. Should help keep dust out!
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Did I say floppy only controller? I meant, of course, hard/floppy...
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Thanks again for the help!
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No dup. chars.
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>Function:?CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
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07/05/91 22:52:02
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Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
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?^U
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?^U
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?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
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Logging name to disk...
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You are caller 222447; next msg =44949; 369 active msgs.
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Prev. call 07/05/91 @ 00:13, next msg was 44945
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Recording logon for next time...
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Use FULL? to check assignments
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?^U
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?xxxxx
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"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K
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>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
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LOG. 6
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KILLED. 15
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SUMMARY. 24
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07/05/91,00:13:46,222423,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
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E#44945,6
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07/05/91,00:46:41,222424,9,DENNIS LEONG,,7
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07/05/91,02:08:30,222425,9,ERIC BOHLMAN,,4
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07/05/91,04:03:15,222426,2,ALEX ZELL,,
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07/05/91,04:36:03,222427,2,PETE JONES,,1
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07/05/91,06:29:00,222428,2,MICHAEL MCDANIEL,,2
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07/05/91,08:10:19,222429,2,PAUL VADER,Arlington Heights/ IL,4
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07/05/91,09:25:50,222430,2,BOB JOHNSTON,,
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E#44946,10
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07/05/91,09:41:43,222431,2,TOM KOWALCZYK,Burbank/ Il.,5
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07/05/91,10:20:11,222432,2,BILL FISCHER,,
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E#44947,2
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07/05/91,10:24:15,222433,1,PETER FLIEGEL,,0
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07/05/91,10:34:00,222434,2,BILL FISCHER,,2
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07/05/91,10:40:21,222435,2,DON PIVEN,,3
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07/05/91,10:54:38,222436,9,TONY ANTONUCCI,,13
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07/05/91,13:13:44,222437,2,JOHN SERRANO,,1
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07/05/91,13:58:03,222438,2,ALEX ZELL,,
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E#44948,11
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]Yeah, I know Randy spelled it differently, but we have an image to
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maintain.
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ALEX ZELL,
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07/05/91,15:01:06,222439,9,BRIAN SCHAER,,3
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07/05/91,18:42:25,222440,2,DANIEL ABRAMS,Deerfield/ IL.,5
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07/05/91,18:49:09,222441,2,BILL WOLFF,,0
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07/05/91,19:56:02,222442,2,DON PIVEN,,1
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07/05/91,20:51:46,222443,2,JOHN CARSON,Burlington,4
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]Will read my buffer & sign on later.
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bye
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JOHN CARSON,
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07/05/91,21:44:57,222444,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,4
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07/05/91,22:19:03,222445,9,THOM QUICK,,2
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07/05/91,22:47:45,222446,2,CLIFF SHARP,,2
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07/05/91,22:52:06,222447,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
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44945 07/05/91 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "HARD DRIVE WOES"
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44946 07/05/91 BOB JOHNSTON => ALL: "CORONA PC"
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44947 07/05/91 BILL FISCHER => ALL: "CHINET DOWN?"
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44948 07/05/91 ALEX ZELL => BILL FISCHER/ALL: "CHINET FEELS THE HEAT TOO"
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Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
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Msg 44945 is 06 line(s) on 07/05/91 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
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to ALL re: HARD DRIVE WOES
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Well, fixed my problems - a ST1144, 124M, and an 8-bit controller. Being
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my first IDE drive, it was kind of a "thrill" and yet a "letdown" - you just
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plug the drive in, and "poof" it is there, FDISK sees it, etc.
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Nice and fast, too - probably TOO fast for my little 8mhz 640K commo
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PC. Partitioned it to match the Jumbo tape drive - I'm conservative,
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still on DOS 3.3.
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Msg 44946 is 04 line(s) on 07/05/91 from BOB JOHNSTON
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to ALL re: CORONA PC
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does anyone have or know someone that has a corona pc
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i want to install a cga or vga monitor and do not
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have the manual for this 8088 machine for motherboard
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switch settings
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Msg 44947 is 02 line(s) on 07/05/91 from BILL FISCHER
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to ALL re: CHINET DOWN?
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Has anyone heard the status of chinet? Seems to have been down for a
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day or so.
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Msg 44948 is 02 line(s) on 07/05/91 from ALEX ZELL
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to BILL FISCHER/ALL re: CHINET FEELS THE HEAT TOO
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Chinet was down 1 July for 5 hours suffering from heat prostration.
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Apparently had a relapse today. Should be back up later today.
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No dup. chars.
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>Function:?r;-2
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Msg 44947 is 02 line(s) on 07/05/91 from BILL FISCHER
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to ALL re: CHINET DOWN?
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Has anyone heard the status of chinet? Seems to have been down for a
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day or so.
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-End of 44947
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Msg #:?re
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Msg 44949
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