textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1989/890923.ch

CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
09/23/89 09:45:36

Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
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?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss

Logging name to disk...
You are caller 208970; next msg =42513;  374 active msgs.
Prev. call 09/19/89 @ 21:41, next msg was 42503
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
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"Mine" command checking fo
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-30 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG.   5 
KILLED.  47 
SUMMARY.  24 
>Function:?type log;r;*;+

09/19/89,21:48:52,208891,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,4
09/19/89,22:01:18,208892,1,KEN TRAINOR,Hammond/In,
09/19/89,23:51:51,208893,2,TOM YORK,,
>Help: @,
09/20/89,01:13:34,208894,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,1
09/20/89,02:46:54,208895,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,1
09/20/89,05:24:51,208896,2,PETE JONES,,1
09/20/89,05:46:19,208897,2,RICHARD HINTON,,1
09/20/89,06:47:27,208898,2,ALEX ZELL,,
09/20/89,12:21:12,208899,1,DENNIS STAHL,,1
09/20/89,13:12:30,208900,2,GARY ELFRING,,3
09/20/89,13:33:55,208901,1,LANE LARRISON,,1
09/20/89,14:52:36,208902,1,AARON WOODS,denver/co,
09/20/89,15:29:10,208903,1,COLIN SCHROEDER,,
E#42503,
E#42504,
E#42505,23
09/20/89,16:42:42,208904,1,SCOTT TEIPE,,
]K,42488,SCOTT TEIPE, 
]K,42493,SCOTT TEIPE, 2
09/20/89,18:32:16,208905,3,JAIME CABAN,,
09/20/89,18:33:34,208906,3,JAIME CABAN,,12
09/20/89,19:26:14,208907,1,BOB SULLIVAN,,4
09/20/89,20:09:27,208908,2,CLYDE GOODHEART,Lincolnshire/ IL,6
09/20/89,20:16:52,208909,2,TONY ANTONUCCI,,6
09/20/89,20:23:30,208910,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,1
09/20/89,20:32:59,208911,1,TY TAYLOR,chhgo,3
09/20/89,20:51:02,208912,1,BOB NAGLICH,,4
]Dear Ward (and Alex...I see you're still around),
Hi!  It's been a good long while since I stopped by here;
and it's nice to know that my asst. sys-op password is still
good after all this time.  I moved to Houston over the summer,
and to make a long story short have been without modem connections
until today.  I'll check in from time to time now that
I'm back on-line.  Peace.....
BOB NAGLICH,
09/20/89,22:43:03,208913,2,GEORGE PATAY,,1
09/20/89,22:53:37,208914,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,1
09/20/89,23:04:06,208915,2,JIM SACKETT,,2
09/20/89,23:08:41,208916,1,JIM FLANAGAN,,2
09/21/89,00:45:46,208917,1,ARLINGTON FRASER,,
>Help: >?,7
09/21/89,02:26:28,208918,2,JIM MORAVEC,,4
09/21/89,07:27:37,208919,2,ELI LEHRER,,3
09/21/89,07:50:36,208920,2,ALEX ZELL,,1
]I believe that asst op passwords never die, even if the owners
sometimes y.
ALEX ZELL,
09/21/89,09:46:30,208921,1,BOB CONSTAS,,2
09/21/89,10:03:44,208922,2,JACK HOMA,,14
09/21/89,10:30:41,208923,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
09/21/89,12:16:31,208924,1,KEN STOX,,1
09/21/89,13:27:46,208925,3,JIM KELLY,Il,4
]JIM KELLY,
09/21/89,14:10:38,208926,1,SCOTT MUELLER,,11
09/21/89,15:32:23,208927,1,MICHAEL SKURLA,,1
09/21/89,16:23:40,208928,1,LANE LARRISON,,1
09/21/89,18:16:55,208929,2,ART WALLER,,1
09/21/89,19:27:30,208930,2,JOE JUT,,2
09/21/89,19:40:08,208931,1,MICHAEL BLAKE,,0
09/21/89,19:47:24,208932,1,BRENT JONES,,
E#42506,
E#42507,
09/21/89,20:27:51,208933,1,MICHAL-LYNN FULLER,Chicago/ IL,1
09/21/89,21:11:53,208934,1,CHARLIE KESTNER,,3
09/21/89,21:16:47,208935,2,JIM POLOUS,,1
09/21/89,21:20:23,208936,3,JIM MORAVEC,,1
09/21/89,21:42:32,208937,3,JOHN HILL,portland,
]CHAT: do you know of any user groups that i may communicate with vie computer,31
09/21/89,22:09:58,208938,1,JOHN HILL,,8
09/21/89,22:22:29,208939,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,4
09/21/89,22:34:28,208940,2,GUS ROUMAYA,BUFFALO GROVE/ IL,
>Help: F*V,
>Help: #W3,9
09/21/89,22:43:04,208941,2,CHUCK ERICKSON,FRANKLIN PARK/ IL,8
09/21/89,23:14:32,208942,1,STEVE RYAN,,
09/21/89,23:30:59,208943,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,
E#42508,5
09/21/89,23:35:58,208944,2,BILL MATTSON,,3
09/22/89,05:25:42,208945,2,PETE JONES,,1
09/22/89,06:55:28,208946,1,MICHAEL MCDANIEL,,3
09/22/89,07:28:30,208947,2,RANDAL CRAIG,,25
09/22/89,10:36:54,208948,1,MIKE KAVADIAS,,
09/22/89,10:41:32,208949,2,DON PIVEN,,2
09/22/89,10:58:44,208950,1,DONNIE STUHLMAN,,
E#42509,7
09/22/89,11:14:15,208951,1,JIM FLANAGAN,,0
09/22/89,12:35:44,208952,1,CORKY QUIRIN,AURORA/ILL.,2
09/22/89,14:37:06,208953,2,MARTY LINGG,,0
09/22/89,14:44:41,208954,1,DENNIS TOKOPH,Des Plaines/IL,
E#42510,19
09/22/89,15:17:14,208955,2,RICHARD HINTON,,
E#42511,5
09/22/89,15:28:51,208956,1,JIM EGAN,,
09/22/89,16:30:25,208957,1,LANE LARRISON,,1
09/22/89,18:50:18,208958,1,BOB COVYEAU,,1
09/22/89,20:40:02,208959,2,BILL WOLFF,,
E#42512,10
09/22/89,20:55:52,208960,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,3
09/22/89,21:27:44,208961,2,JIM ANDERSON,,3
09/23/89,00:03:55,208962,2,TOM YORK,,
09/23/89,00:54:19,208963,1,DAV HOLLE,,3
09/23/89,01:19:35,208964,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,6
09/23/89,01:29:33,208965,1,DENNIS LEONG,,3
09/23/89,02:01:26,208966,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,1
09/23/89,05:52:29,208967,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,1
09/23/89,06:17:23,208968,2,ALEX ZELL,,
09/23/89,08:29:58,208969,2,RICHARD HINTON,,2
09/23/89,09:45:40,208970,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,

Msg 42503 is 04 line(s) on 09/20/89 from COLIN SCHROEDER
to RICHARD HINTON re: R/VGA/MULTISYNC??

I'm not POSITIVE, but I think a single-frequency VGA monitor should
still be able to display CGA, given that your graphics card can
support CGA software (most VGA cards can). However, I'd check with
Amdek first to avoid unpleasant surprises!

Msg 42504 is 14 line(s) on 09/20/89 from COLIN SCHROEDER
to RICHARD HINTON re: R/RLL/MFM

As far as I know, most RLL, ESDI and SCSI ctrlrs use c800:5 as the
start address for their ll format routines, although I doubt it's
universal! Also, many can be jumpered to move the address so as
to bypass address conflicts with things like video BIOS, etc.
For example, an Adaptec 2322 ESDI ctrlr can be jumpered to set
the address at cc00:5. I'd use an ASCII/hex editor like the one
in PC-Tools to look for setup code in the BIOS. Also, I'm not
sure that MFM controllers HAVE BIOS based ll format! If the doc.s
don't mention it and give the proper address, assume it doesn't.
Disk Manager works well, and I don't believe there's any speed
degradation; also, the RAM taken by the DMDRVR driver is quite
small. Finally (and this is in reference to another reply to
your msg), dos 3.3 doesn't allow partitions larger than 32 Mb,
but 4.0+ and Compaq 3.31 DO. Good luck w/ everything!

Msg 42505 is 06 line(s) on 09/20/89 from COLIN SCHROEDER
to ALL re: VM/386 USERS??

I'd be interested to 'talk' with anyone out there who uses VM/386
for multitasking with common programs like WordPerfect, 1-2-3,
and comm. software, as well as less common prog.s like statistical
analysis software (esp. SYSTAT). This is 'Tips, Tricks, & Traps'
type stuff. Anyone interested pls. leave me a msg. here.
Colin

Msg 42506 is 03 line(s) on 09/21/89 from BRENT JONES
to RICHARD HINTON re: R/I DIDN'T LIKE PRODIGY

I have an Oak Lawn number for Prodigy: 499-0048 There are other
Chicago area numbers which I will try to get and list here on
CBBS. Brent

Msg 42507 is 05 line(s) on 09/21/89 from BRENT JONES
to RICHARD HINTON re: R/PRODIGY AVAILABLE NOW

Richard,
 Prodigy is definately Proprietary software driven. You have to use
their graphics based software. I doubt that many who are currently
BBS users will be very impressed with it. But for beginners, like my dad
it will probably be useful.

r;42508

Msg 42508 is 10 line(s) on 09/21/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN
to WARD re: CBBS SOFTWARE

If you ever have any reason to revise the CBBS software, you might look
K/nSP^WG^
f' Gvj
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`D?`(4ns" prompt. As you can see from the text of thi{ message,
your modem is introducing a fair amount of line noise, so "{" ought to
be considered an acceptable answer to the question. When I called the
first time, one of them snuck in and got me the "reply correctly or be
disconnected" prompt, along with a disconnection. This board is a Band B
call for me, so I was out a bit more than 5 3/4 cents.
-End of 42508

Msg #:?f*^U
?re
Msg 42513
01 ?The REAL answer is to get our 9600 baud modems back!  Actually, I'm of the
02 ?opinion that if the noise shows up enough times to cause the disconnect
03 ?message (intended to thwart "twits" who I have seen call a system with no
04 ?intent of answering ANY questions as asked ;-)
05 ?
A,C,D,E,G,H,I,L,R,S,W (or ?):?e;4
Line was:
intent of answering ANY questions as asked ;-)intent of answering ANY questions as asked ;-), then the connection is best
A,C,D,E,G,H,I,L,R,S,W (or ?):?c
05 ?broken for the sake of a "retry" for a better line.
06 ?  I AM sorry the modem is so bad - but the 9600's that went back for ROM
07 ?upgrades got lost at UPS for - what - months!w3
08 ?
A,C,D,E,G,H,I,L,R,S,W (or ?):?s
Writing to disk.

Updating summary.
>Function:?r;42509

Msg 42509 is 10 line(s) on 09/22/89 from DONNIE STUHLMAN
to JIM POLOUS re: NOVELL BOOK

Unfortunately I don't work for that company any more. After just hiring me
last July, they sa that there was no money to pay me. I am busy
looking for a new job. Perhaps some other authorized Novell dealer
has the book for you to examine. $200 is a t of money for a loose-leaf
notebook type book, but the information could be very important to a
programer.
Good luck.
PS If you know of any jobs in the micro computer field please let me
know. A friend says people need my services, but neither he nor I know
any names and phone numbers.
r;42510

Msg 42510 is 19 line(s) on 09/22/89 from DENNIS TOKOPH
to ALL re: NEW BBS OPENING

The Chicago Public School System has opened a new BBS - The EIES (eyes) of
the Chicago Public Schools.  With 200 different message bases, U/D libs
for all computers, Email, and the ability to follow message threads instead
of reading them chronologically.  Soon to have On-line Dictionary and
32 phone lines.  For a new telecomm experience, call:
EIES (Electronic Info Exchange System) of the C.P.S. at:
*
(312) 890-8512  or  (312) 890-8513   * (800) number soon! *
*
Suggest that you read the Quick Start Tutorial first - the software is a
bit different than most BBSes you're use to using.
Also, if you want to be able to receive Email, you'll need to create a
Mailbox for yourself.  Type E, for Email, and answer yes to prompts. Then
you be able to enter a message about you and your interests - no line
limit, so be creative if you wish.  HANDLES are accepted if you desire.
*
Features include attaching files to messages, or vice-versa, ability to
view contents of ZIPs and ARCs on-line, online conferencing, and much, much
more.  Tell them that Mr. Nobody sent you.
--End of 42510

Msg #:?.

Msg 42511 is 08 line(s) on 09/22/89 from RICHARD HINTON
to ALL re: A GRAPHICS PROGRAM??

I am using Supercalc 5 right now on a IBM/AT clo, but supervisor
wants a graphics program that will do "cylinders", I don't
he means pie chart only but raised cylinders. Also I need a program
that will graph in three dimensions. Say graphing results from an
experiment of time one versus time two and have a display of the
second experiment behind the first on the same graph. I have done
it with SAS/SPSS, but it has been a real pain to program it. I
am looking for something simpler. Maybe Harvard Graphics???

Msg #:?.

Msg 42512 is 03 line(s) on 09/22/89 from BILL WOLFF
to RICHARD HINTON re: R/A GRAPHICS PROGRAM??

Try Graphic Express! It is really good. It is shareware by the same people
who wrote Express File. I really thing you will like it. It's one of the
best I've seen.

Msg #:?.

Msg 42513 is 07 line(s) on 09/23/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to ERIC BOHLMAN re: R/CBBS SOFTWARE

The REAL answer is to get our 9600 baud modems back!  Actually, I'm of the
opinion that if the noise shows up enough times to cause the disconnect
message (intended to thwart "twits" who I have seen call a system with no
intent of answering ANY questions as asked ;-), then the connection is best
broken for the sake of a "retry" for a better line.
  I AM sorry the modem is so bad - but the 9600's that went back for ROM
upgrades got lost at UPS for - what - months!w3

Msg #:?
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