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>>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<<
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THE BEST OF THE A2 BULLETIN BOARD ON Syndicomm Online
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AND THE BEST OF THE DELPHI A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS
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"Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998"
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The Lamp! An Onipa'a Software Production Vol. 5, No. 9
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Publisher................................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
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Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson
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Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net
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Internet Email, Editor................................lyle@FoxValley.net
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
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September 15, 2002
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HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER---------------------------------------------[OPN]
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Nature's Art Work
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Greenwich Art Fair
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A Time for Gratitude
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Access to Apple II Software
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The Tinkerer's Corner
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A2 FORUM AT Syndicomm Online (A2Central.com) DISTILLATIONS
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Problem With Files Downloaded From Library?----------------------[PWL]
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Phone Systems Alike From Country to Country?---------------------[PSA]
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Memory Lane - the Old 8 Bit Games--------------------------------[MLG]
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Joysticks for the Apple II---------------------------------------[JSA]
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Any 8 Bit Games That Used a Mouse for Controls?------------------[MFC]
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3.5" Disk Drives on the IIe--------------------------------------[TDD]
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Installation of Larger Drive on Focus Card - Problem Solved------[ILD]
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More Than Adequate Storage for the IIgs--------------------------[MAS]
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Moving Files From A2 Floppy Disks to iMac or PowerBook-----------[MFT]
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Speculating on Potential Uses of the Emulator, Florence----------[PUF]
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Florence Java Requirements---------------------------------------[FJR]
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File Type Assignment - Adobe Acrobat Document--------------------[FTA]
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ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM
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To Sign up for Syndicomm Online----------------------------------[TSU]
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DELPHI A2 DISTILLATIONS
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New to the Apple II - Have Questions-----------------------------[NAT]
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DELPHI A2Pro DISTILLATIONS
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Announcing - Crypto Tool Set-------------------------------------[CTS]
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THE TINKERER'S CORNER
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You are Invited--------------------------------------------------[YAI]
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Putting Together a Working CD ROM Drive--------------------------[CDD]
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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No Letters to the Editor This Month------------------------------[NLE]
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An Invitation----------------------------------------------------[LTE]
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KFEST 2002
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KFest Reminder---------------------------------------------------[KFR]
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Pictures From KFest 2002-----------------------------------------[PFK]
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KFEST 2003
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KFest 2003 - Plan to be There!-----------------------------------[PBT]
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EXTRA INNINGS
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About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]
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[*] [*] [*]
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READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make
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""""""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this
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issue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will find
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something like:
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EXTRA INNINGS
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About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]
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To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate
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[INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].
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[OPN]-------------------------------
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HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER |
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From The Editor
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by Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>
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Nature's Art Work
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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The annual parade of colors has begun. The view from High Above The
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Rock River is always inspiring. But especially so from mid September
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through the first part of November, watching from day to day the steady
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change of color in the tree leaves.
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Greenwich Art Fair
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This art fair is held just a block away in mid September. The
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exhibiters have earned the right to participate by submitting photographs
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of their work to a panel of judges.
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Portraits with such detail that to study them carefully is be begin to
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know the individual portrayed. Scenes that look three dimensional even
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though painted on a flat surface. Beautiful sculptures.
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A delightful feast for the eyes. A chance to talk to the artists.
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A chance to buy some of the art work.
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A Time for Gratitude
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An experience such as this reminds us that we should take time out now
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and then to be grateful for the efforts of many individuals... those who
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created the Apple II's... those who created the many hardware add-ons...
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those who created the thousands of software titles.
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Access to Apple II Software
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The sources for Apple II software include the CD compilations such as
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the recent release of the SoftDisk GS titles.
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CD ROMs featuring Apple II software:
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Kohn, Joe http://users.FoxValley.net/~joko/
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Syndicomm Online Store http://store.syndicomm.com
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Eamon Adventures Tom Zuchowski <tzuchow@attglobal.net>
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The Tinkerer's Corner
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This month we feature putting together a CD ROM drive for your IIgs so
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you can begin using the many CD's of software that are available.
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[EOA]
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ASCII ART BEGINS
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ASCII ART ENDS
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[EOA]
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DISTILLATIONS FROM The A2 FORUM at Syndicomm.com |
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(A2Central.com) |
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by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
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[PWL]
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PROBLEM WITH FILES DOWNLOADED FROM LIBRARY?
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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I'm not sure where to put a message asking about problems with the Library,
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but here goes...
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I was downloading some of the GEnie RTC transcripts to read, and some are
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ShrinkIt packed (.BXY). No problem, I'll use Shrink II to open them.
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Doesn't work. Go to Bernie and try with ShrinkIt -- get a $81 file
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corrupted error.
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Could someone else try one of these BXY files and tell me if _I'm_ the one
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who is messing up, or if the files are actually corrupted. Specifically,
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I was trying the file "gus.8.paug.bxy", and "rtc,orca2.bxy".
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Also, I remember the BQY suffix, but can't remember what program is needed
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to unpack it. ShrinkIt doesn't seem to recognize it (at least as a Shrunk
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file).
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Thanks,
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Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<
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Apple II History
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http://apple2history.org
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(A2HISTORY, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 31)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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Using my Mac, I just verified that both of those files are fine. I
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downloaded them via ftp with Transmit, moved them over to Bernie, and
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unpacked them with GSHK. I was also able to unpack them with Shrink II.
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Usually when people ask about corrupted files it turns out to be that they
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were not getting an 8-bit ftp transfer. But if you're using an ftp client
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on a Mac, as opposed to a Unix command-line client, that shouldn't be a
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problem.
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BQY files are older "Squeezed" archives created by BLU. GSHK can handle
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them, as long as the files are not corrupted of course.
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Tony Ward, A2 Librarian
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(A2.TONY, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 34)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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Thanks for all who checked those RTC BXY files. It appears that the problem
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I was having had to do with my FTP program (Transmit) being set to "ASCII"
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mode, not Binary mode, when I did the download. I don't know enough about
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why there is a difference (a file should be just a file, as far as I'm
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concerned), but when I unchecked the ASCII setting, and downloaded the file
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again, it was able to be unpacked.
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Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<
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(A2HISTORY, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 36)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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>> a file should be just a file, as far as I'm concerned <<
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The problem is that files often *aren't* files when it comes to cross
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platform differences. The benefit of ASCII mode transfers is that ftp fixes
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the line endings for text files: Apple=<CR>, Unix=<LF>, Windows=<CR><LF>.
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I believe many modern ftp clients are moving towards making BINARY mode the
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default, which is probably more useful for most people. (And *really* smart
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programs try to decide on the file type themselves! ASCII text is pretty
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easy to detect.)
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Peter peterw@syndicomm.com
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Palm OS Community Bulletin Board Manager
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(PETERW, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 37)
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[EOA]
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[PSA]
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PHONE SYSTEMS ALIKE FROM COUNTRY TO COUNTRY?
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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I was curious about phone systems. Are phone systems in Japan(or anywhere
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else) for instance, pretty much the same as in the U.S. In other words,
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could you use the same modem in another country that you could use in your
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own? Just curious.
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Thanks,
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Dain
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(A2.DAIN, Cat 2, Top 12, Msg 12)
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"""""
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Technically, probably. Legally, maybe not. Some countries have regulations
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that our modems do not meet. For instance, repeat dialing is forbidden in
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some countries, and modems there don't support the feature. Of course, most
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of us do that with software, but that would still be illegal in some
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countries.
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Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Sat 7 Sep 02 12:48:00 am
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cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8
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KFest 2003, July 22-27, 2003 - 319 days till KFest
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On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard.
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A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com
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(CARLK, Cat 2, Top 12, Msg 13)
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"""""
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Carl has described it exactly. A 56k modem will work in any country, and
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you can take your PowerBook with you when you go.
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In the early days of 300 baud, for those that remember, there were
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differences in the tones used, but now they have been harmonized.
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Repeat dialing has to be controlled in the UK. You can dial the same number
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again at once, but thereafter, an increasing interval between dialing must
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be applied.
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As 240 volts power is used in most other countries, modems have to conform
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to strict safety regulations so they cannot send 240 volts down the phone
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line. This means that in theory, all modems in the UK must be approved
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before they are used.
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Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Sat 7 Sep 2002 - 318 days till KFest '03
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Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b8
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Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a dual G4/800Mhz GeForce3
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http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/
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(CONDUCTOR, Cat 2, Top 12, Msg 14)
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[EOA]
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[MLG]
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MEMORY LANE - THE OLD 8 BIT GAMES
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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Just a stroll down memory lane. The other day I pulled out some of my
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5 1/4" floppies and started playing some old games I used to play on the
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][e. I had fun, but I realized that I am not nearly as good at Short
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Circuit and Hard Hat Mack as I used to be. For some reason though, I am
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just as good today at Spy's Demise as I was back then:)
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With all the whizbang flashy graphics of today's 128bit graphics chips and
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Gigaflop computing power...it amazes one to think how far we've come, and
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to realize that these old games are just as fun today as they were then.
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Those programmers that pulled off what they did with that 8-bit chip were
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simply amazing.
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Dain Neater
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(A2.DAIN, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 54)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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>> Those programmers that pulled off what they did with that 8-bit chip
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were simply amazing. <<
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Not to mention the 32K or so of RAM, and the 140K of storage space, and the
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1 MHz CPU speed. . . really just absolutely amazing.
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Ryan
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Chief Sysop and Head Geek
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(A2.RYAN, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 55)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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One of my favorite games was Miner 2049er, both part 1 and 2. I played
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those on my ][ Plus until the original disks were dead :)
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Ryan
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(RSUENAGA, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 57)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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Ultima, Lode Runner, Apple Panic, SSI Baseball, Choplifter, Castle
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Wolfenstein, ..... (the list goes on and on)
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Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host
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"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.
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7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT
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(MARK, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 59)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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Miner 2049er was a great game. Kind of in the same genre as Lode Runner
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and the early Mario games. Run around and jump from level to level doing
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stuff.
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:)
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Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
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Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
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Building communities, bit by bit.
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(SYNDICOMM, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 61)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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It also sounds a lot like Hard Hat Mack:) I had lots of fun with these
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8 bitters:)
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Dain
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(A2.DAIN, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 63)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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Seriously though, a lot of those games were very similar, but they were a
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lot of fun, too. Lode Runner was great, although I had more fun with the
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level designer than playing the game itself. :)
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Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
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Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
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Building communities, bit by bit.
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(SYNDICOMM, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 65)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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Yeah, the Lode Runner Level editor was one of the coolest features ever.
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I would think it was one of the first games that shipped with a level
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editor.
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Cool stuff.
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Dain
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(A2.DAIN, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 66)
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[EOA]
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[JSA]
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JOYSTICKS FOR THE Apple II
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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I recently was given an Apple II joystick that I really like. It is a
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CH Products (same brand as my Thrustmaster Pro that I use for X-Plane)
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stick with a two buttons in the upper left hand corner and one actually on
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the stick. I really like this stick. Were there any others that were
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better? Of course you are talking to the guy who at one point played
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Joystick games with paddles, because that was all he had:).
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I also had a stick that could be used on both the PC and II. It's in a box
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somewhere and I have no clue what it actually is...I think maybe a Kraft.
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Dain Neater
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(A2.DAIN, Cat 14, Top 3, Msg 6)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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Dain,
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I have three of that model CH Products joystick, one on each of my Apples
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(IIe, GS ROM 1, GS ROM 3), as well as one that I installed on my Dad's
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machine. I tried one or two other brands long ago but, I like this one the
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best!
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MT Steve
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(S.BERNBAUM, Cat 14, Top 3, Msg 7)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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I have a Mach IV, which can serve as either a mouse (attached to a IIc/IIc
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Plus mouse port or a IIe mouse card) or a joystick (attached to the same
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place on a IIc/IIc Plus or a IIe or IIgs nine pin joystick port). I like a
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real mouse better, but it's amazing how huge and clunky the original Mouse
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II (the same, basically, as the Mac through Plus and Lisa mouse) feels
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nowadays.
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Ryan
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Chief Sysop and Head Geek
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(A2.RYAN, Cat 14, Top 3, Msg 10)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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Kraft also made a "mousestick" that may have actually been called the
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MouseStick. I vaguely remember this one.
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Ryan
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(A2.RYAN, Cat 14, Top 3, Msg 11)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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Yes, that's what it was called. I remember it.
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Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
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Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
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Building communities, bit by bit.
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(SYNDICOMM, Cat 14, Top 3, Msg 12)
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[EOA]
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[MFC]
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ANY 8 BIT GAMES THAT USED A MOUSE FOR CONTROLS?
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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I know mice were used in games on the Apple IIgs, but were there every any
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instances of the 8 bit machines using a mouse for controls in a game?
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I can't think of any, and the number of people with mice on those older
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machines was prohibitive to the developers. Not to mention the fact that
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to you had to push that IIe mouse button down about 5 inches for a click.
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(okay, maybe that was an exaggeration:)
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Dain Neater
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(A2.DAIN, Cat 17, Top 21, Msg 1)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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I'm not much of a gamer, but I can't remember any games where mice were
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substitutes for joysticks.
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Ryan
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(A2.RYAN, Cat 17, Top 21, Msg 2)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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Marble Madness -- mouse control was a lot better than joystick.
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Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
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Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
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Building communities, bit by bit.
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|
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(SYNDICOMM, Cat 17, Top 21, Msg 3)
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|
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>>>>>
|
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"""""
|
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I believe some of those softdisk 8 bit games would support a mouse. Didn't
|
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we show than the solitaire would use a mouse (in my case a trackball)?
|
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I wasn't using a joystick though that might have worked too.
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|
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I think some the other arcade type games could use a mouse but I'm not
|
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sure.
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Bruce
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(BBAKER, Cat 17, Top 21, Msg 4)
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[EOA]
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[TDD]
|
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3.5" DISK DRIVES ON THE IIe
|
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
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Re: 3.5" disk drives for Apple IIe
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Someone asked me whether they could read & write 3.5" floppies with an
|
|
Apple IIe. A friend told me that one could use the same 3.5" floppy drives
|
|
for the IIe as I user for my Apple IIgs, but that I had to use it with a
|
|
controller like the UDC. The model no. on the bottom of my Apple 3.5" disk
|
|
drive is A9M0106. I am unacquainted with any such controller. Does one
|
|
just get a UDC controller and plug it in between the disk drive and the
|
|
Apple IIe? How does this work and where could one acquire a controller and
|
|
any necessary cables? Does anyone have a different solution?
|
|
|
|
Jim O'Reilly
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(JOREILLY, Cat 17, Top 29, Msg 12)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Jim,
|
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|
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An Apple disk drive model A9M0106 is an Apple 3.5 Disk Drive. In order for
|
|
this drive to be usable on an Apple IIe you would need a Superdrive
|
|
Controller. Last I heard Superdrive cards were available from Shreve
|
|
Systems for $59. They can be contacted at 1-800-227-3971.
|
|
|
|
Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host
|
|
"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.
|
|
7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT
|
|
|
|
(MARK, Cat 17, Top 29, Msg 13)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[ILD]
|
|
INSTALLATION OF LARGER DRIVE ON FOCUS CARD - PROBLEM SOLVED
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Installed larger drive on Focus Card (used). Focus utilities indicated
|
|
that "You must format (low level format) this drive before doing anything
|
|
else."
|
|
|
|
----
|
|
Apple Computer Inc.
|
|
Internal HDD Firmware (C)1995
|
|
750MB 2.5 inch AT 17mm
|
|
IBM OEM LES E33252 S
|
|
Model : DPRA-20810
|
|
P/N : 85G3645 FRU : 39H2206
|
|
MLC : E15644
|
|
----
|
|
|
|
After starting the low level format this message comes up:
|
|
|
|
An error has occurred during the format of you FocusDrive.
|
|
(Error: #8080, Track 0, Head 0)
|
|
(Continue) (Cancel)
|
|
|
|
If you choose (Continue) this message comes up:
|
|
|
|
Currently formatting;
|
|
Head #0, Cylinder #0
|
|
Final Cylinder #0
|
|
|
|
It then sits there for hours without making any progress.
|
|
|
|
Any way around this?
|
|
|
|
Or is this drive simply not going to work with the Focus card?
|
|
|
|
Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net> Editor, _The Lamp!_
|
|
published monthly at: http://lamp.a2central.com/
|
|
|
|
(LYLE, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 5)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
A Google search for the drive in question revealed that the drive was set
|
|
up as a "slave". Adding a jumper between two pins converts it to a
|
|
"master".
|
|
|
|
The 750mb drive is now set up with six 32mb ProDOS partitions and one large
|
|
HFS partition.
|
|
|
|
Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net> Editor, _The Lamp!_
|
|
published monthly at: http://lamp.a2central.com/
|
|
|
|
(LYLE, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 8)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
A long time ago at KFest, someone had a problem with a hard drive on a
|
|
Focus card that related to the jumper being set to slave.
|
|
|
|
So I guess that the moral of the story is that when using a Focus, set the
|
|
drive to master :)
|
|
|
|
Ryan
|
|
|
|
(A2.RYAN, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 10)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[MAS]
|
|
MORE THAN ADEQUATE STORAGE FOR THE IIgs
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
I recently took the 6 GB drive that came built into my PowerBook G3 and
|
|
installed it in my Focus Drive because the drive that came preinstalled in
|
|
the card started doing weird stuff. Works like a charm. Don't recall the
|
|
brand though.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 6)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
So, you've unseated Dain as having the largest known Focus Drive in
|
|
captivity?
|
|
:)
|
|
|
|
Maybe we should run a contest. . .
|
|
|
|
Ryan
|
|
Chief Sysop and Head Geek
|
|
|
|
(A2.RYAN, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 11)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I've been told that having 4GB hooked up to a IIgs is ludicrous. Of
|
|
course, that would just mean that Sheppy is 2GBs more ludicrous than I.
|
|
|
|
Dain
|
|
|
|
Slowly handing over the Ludicrous Crown to King Sheppy.
|
|
|
|
(A2.DAIN, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 12)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I'm extremely ludicrous. Having multiple 2 GB HFS partitions on your GS is
|
|
stupid. :)
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 13)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Six gigs of storage on a GS is pretty excessive. I don't think there is
|
|
much of a way to do it without some large HFS partitions. While I'm not
|
|
much of a fan of HFS on the IIgs, the alternative is (doing some math). . .
|
|
187 ProDOS partitions? :)
|
|
|
|
Ryan
|
|
Chief Sysop and Head Geek
|
|
|
|
(A2.RYAN, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 14)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[MFT]
|
|
MOVING FILES FROM A2 FLOPPY DISKS TO iMac or PowerBook
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
... actually I wanted to ask questions about LanceGS, as I _really_ need a
|
|
way to get files off of Apple II floppy disks into my iMac or PowerBook.
|
|
I _think_ the LanceGS card may be helpful, but I've read the FAQ and it
|
|
says that I cannot use it with AppleTalk, that an FTP program is needed to
|
|
move files.
|
|
|
|
Someone in a Chat a while ago suggested that it would be less expensive to
|
|
get an old Mac, LocalTalk the IIGS to the Mac, and then Ethernet the Mac to
|
|
my home network.
|
|
|
|
My PRIMARY need is to get files off of Apple II disks and onto the Mac, and
|
|
also to be able to move files from the Mac (Bernie) onto the IIGS. I really
|
|
don't have a need to access the Net from the IIGS.
|
|
|
|
I want the least expensive option I can get. If, for example, there is some
|
|
option that would work with a mass storage device, that would also be
|
|
acceptable.
|
|
|
|
I've tried to put the SCSI drive I use on the IIGS on a SCSI<-->USB
|
|
converter, and the Mac does not see it. I believe I had problems before
|
|
with the Mac recognizing RamFAST partitioning.
|
|
|
|
Any help would be gratefully accepted.
|
|
|
|
Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<
|
|
Apple II History
|
|
http://apple2history.org
|
|
|
|
(A2HISTORY, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 55)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
My recommendation would be to get a cheap older Mac that has both a serial
|
|
port and an Ethernet port, so that you can do LocalTalk between the GS and
|
|
the Mac, and then again to other machines.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 56)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I agree with Sheppy. The LANceGS card is great for TCP/IP applications,
|
|
but if you want to move files, a Mac with both LocalTalk and ethernet ports
|
|
(you could likely get one at a local thrift store or off someone's garage
|
|
shelf for free or close to it) running LocalTalk Bridge software (free)
|
|
would be the cheapest way to go.
|
|
|
|
Ryan
|
|
|
|
(RSUENAGA, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 57)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I was thinking that the Mac/LocalTalk/Ethernet option might be the least
|
|
expensive.
|
|
|
|
Now, I still have an Ethernet card that worked in the Performa 5215 we got
|
|
rid of a year or more ago (yeah, a stupid idea now in retrospect). Anyone
|
|
know what other Macs have the same port for a card as the 5215 had?
|
|
|
|
Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<
|
|
Apple II History
|
|
http://apple2history.org
|
|
|
|
(A2HISTORY, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 58)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I found an old Mac LC 475 at the kid's school that was not being used, and
|
|
they were more than happy to give it to me. I put my Ethernet card (Asante)
|
|
in it, but have not yet been able to get it to work. I think I'll need to
|
|
borrow a CD-ROM drive from them also, so I can re-install the Mac OS 7.6.1
|
|
that is on it.
|
|
|
|
IIGS file-sharing connectivity is getting closer...
|
|
|
|
Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<
|
|
Apple II History
|
|
http://apple2history.org
|
|
|
|
(A2HISTORY, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 62)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Steve,
|
|
|
|
Let's move the LocalTalk discussion to cat 10, topic 6. :)
|
|
|
|
(RSUENAGA, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 63)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Make sure to download LocalTalk Bridge from Apple's FTP site too :)
|
|
|
|
Ryan
|
|
|
|
(RSUENAGA, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 31)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I found the LocalTalk bridge software. I read the "ReadMe" file included.
|
|
This allows me to have a connection with BOTH a LocalTalk AND an Ethernet
|
|
network?
|
|
|
|
Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<
|
|
Apple II History
|
|
http://apple2history.org
|
|
|
|
(A2HISTORY, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 32)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Right. It lets your Mac running LTB serve as a bridge between a LocalTalk
|
|
network and an EtherTalk network, so the machines on each side can see each
|
|
other.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 33)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Okay.
|
|
|
|
I've got the Mac LC 475 with LocalTalk bridge working, and the IIGS can
|
|
send files to that computer, and from there I can send them to my OS X
|
|
iMac.
|
|
|
|
The goofy thing is that I cannot "see" the iMac from the LC 475. To connect
|
|
(I've got OS 8.1 loaded there) I have to type the IP address of the OX X
|
|
iMac. The IIGS cannot "see" anything except the LC 475.
|
|
|
|
The LocalTalk bridge is activated on the LC 475. It doesn't specify WHICH
|
|
serial port is being used for LocalTalk, but it wouldn't work unless I had
|
|
it plugged into the Printer port on the LC 475.
|
|
|
|
I'm using the Printer port on the IIGS, and so have slot 1 set to
|
|
"AppleTalk" (since my RamFAST is in slot 7).
|
|
|
|
This works, but did you say it should be possible to "see" the iMac from
|
|
the IIGS? Or does OS X make that more difficult?
|
|
|
|
Getting there... :-)
|
|
|
|
Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<
|
|
Apple II History
|
|
http://apple2history.org
|
|
|
|
(A2HISTORY, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 35)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Hi Steven,
|
|
|
|
If you want the GS to see everything on the ethernet side of the 475,
|
|
you'll need to go to the 475 and make sure the AppleTalk network there is
|
|
set to the ethernet network.
|
|
|
|
Then both your 475 and the GS should see the iMac.
|
|
|
|
Hope that helps!
|
|
|
|
Kirk
|
|
A2 RTC Manager
|
|
|
|
(A2.KIRK, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 37)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
The Saga Continues...
|
|
|
|
I've turned on AppleTalk via the NetInfo Manager in OS X (although the
|
|
SharePoints program that the link Sheppy mentioned in a previous message
|
|
(http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/osx.html) would have done it more
|
|
easily), and now the IIGS can "see" the OS X Mac. However, it does not
|
|
allow me to login as anything other than a guest. I was able to see the
|
|
folders that I shared using SharePoint, and although I was able to copy a
|
|
file from the OS X Mac to the IIGS, an attempt to copy files from the IIGS
|
|
to the Mac resulted in an error message, probably because it is logged on
|
|
only as a guest.
|
|
|
|
We're getting there; any suggestions for better IIGS --> Mac file copying?
|
|
I can always copy files in two steps, from the IIGS --> Mac LC --> iMac if
|
|
the IIGS simply cannot logon in any fashion other than as a guest.
|
|
|
|
Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<
|
|
Apple II History
|
|
http://apple2history.org
|
|
|
|
(A2HISTORY, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 38)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Give "guest" privileges to write to the iMac drive. (This is a Bad Thing
|
|
unless you are sitting behind a firewall, but okay to do just while you are
|
|
working on it.)
|
|
|
|
Gary
|
|
|
|
(HINDMOST, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 39)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[PUF]
|
|
SPECULATING ON POTENTIAL USES OF THE EMULATOR, FLORENCE
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Richard Bennnet-Forrest unveiled Florence, his Java-based Apple IIgs
|
|
emulator at KansasFest 2002 in a videotaped presentation.
|
|
|
|
Florence is still in its infancy, but the web page can be found off of
|
|
http://www.emulate.gs/
|
|
|
|
This idea has lots of potential, including the ability to run an Apple IIgs
|
|
on almost any device, including cell phones and refrigerators. :)
|
|
|
|
Ryan
|
|
Chief Sysop
|
|
|
|
(A2.RYAN, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 1)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I especially see value for this when Palm OS devices with ARM processors
|
|
and Java become available.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I really like this idea. Regardless of what the speed of Java is. Things
|
|
can only improve:)
|
|
|
|
I think the TCP/IP functionality is the part that I long to see the most.
|
|
Woohoo:)
|
|
|
|
Dain Neater
|
|
|
|
(A2.DAIN, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 3)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I had totally forgotten about Palm OS Java devices (and as the former chief
|
|
sysop of the Palm Forum, I hang my head in shame).
|
|
|
|
I would think that Pocket PC devices would hold similar usefulness,
|
|
although I tend to think the whole Pocket PC platform is ahead of its time.
|
|
I'm not sure what other Java using devices besides these, cellular phones,
|
|
and desktop and laptop computers there are out there right now, but I'd
|
|
like to know :)
|
|
|
|
Ryan
|
|
|
|
(RSUENAGA, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 4)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
>> I would think that Pocket PC devices would hold similar usefulness,
|
|
although I tend to think the whole Pocket PC platform is ahead of its time.
|
|
|
|
Ahead? It's running Windows, not Futuristic Super OS. :)
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 5)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
By "ahead of its time", I mean that the hardware that can sufficiently run
|
|
such an albatross in a small package is not yet here.
|
|
|
|
Maybe in five years. . .
|
|
|
|
Ryan
|
|
|
|
(RSUENAGA, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 6)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
The PocketPC platform runs a ~200mhz strong arm, just like the Newtons,
|
|
only I think that the Newton OS, was quite a bit smaller. It would be cool
|
|
to have a Pocket IIGS regardless of what it is running on:)
|
|
|
|
Dain
|
|
|
|
(A2.DAIN, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 7)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I am in the market for a better cellular phone that has Java capability
|
|
specifically for Florence.
|
|
|
|
Ryan
|
|
Chief Sysop and Head Geek
|
|
|
|
(RSUENAGA, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 8)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
It is my understanding that cell phones will only use the J2EE specs for
|
|
Java which is essentially a trimmed-down version of Java. You will also to
|
|
make sure the cell phone has lots of RAM to run Java code, especially
|
|
something as intensive as a GS emulator.
|
|
|
|
I think it may be a few years before there is a portable device to be run
|
|
Florence. But, I'll be pleasant surprised if there is hardware available
|
|
today and is moderately priced.
|
|
|
|
Geoff
|
|
|
|
(GEOFF, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 9)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
How much memory, I wonder, would be needed?
|
|
|
|
I'm thinking a Palm OS 5 device with Java (when it's available, I have no
|
|
idea when that will be, I read the same press releases as everyone else :)
|
|
and 16 MB of memory might be able to do it.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 10)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I would think a 16 meg Java device would have enough memory for a nice IIgs
|
|
emulation, but disk space would be tight.
|
|
|
|
Of course, I'm also someone who would love to see a IIe emulator on the
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Palm.
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Ryan
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(RSUENAGA, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 11)
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[EOA]
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[FJR]
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FLORENCE JAVA REQUIREMENTS
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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Richard,
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Could you expound a little more on the Florence Java requirements? I'm
|
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semi-seriously looking into cellular phones. I could wait for a long time
|
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to buy, though, if they're not yet up to snuff.
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Ryan
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Chief Sysop and Head Geek
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(RSUENAGA, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 20)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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Well, I'm quite embarrassed to say that I'm not really sure what devices
|
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and configurations would run Florence.
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I wrote it for JRE 1.3 if that helps, so anything from JSE 1.3 up is fine
|
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(Java Standard Edition 1.3, Java 2 Enterprise Edition 1.3, Java Standard
|
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Edition 1.4 etc.)
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|
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A bit of background perhaps, because Sun has way too many conflicting
|
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acronyms to remember, unless you work with this stuff on a daily basis.
|
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JRE stands for Java Runtime Environment. This includes the JVM (Java
|
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Virtual Machine) which runs the core language syntax (for/next loops,
|
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variable management etc.), plus a whole heap of Java code (libraries). Most
|
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new Java versions don't change the JVM, which means the core language
|
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pretty much stays the same. What each version does add, is more and more
|
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Java code that makes complex programming easier.
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This is a good thing, because it means the 10 lines of code you had to
|
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write for the previous version, comes down to only a few lines of code in
|
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the new version.
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Florence doesn't use anything complex within Java, just the basic language
|
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syntax and a few graphics routines. Again, because I haven't tuned it for
|
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performance, it's very compatible across platforms and JRE versions,
|
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because it doesn't really use much outside the basic JVM.
|
|
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Therefore, if a device did come out that didn't support the full 1.3.1,
|
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then it would more than likely still work, and if not, shouldn't be too
|
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much of a change to get Florence to get it to work (i.e. I'd just have to
|
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write those 10 lines instead of 1 :-).
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The only real concern I would have for small device is speed. As my
|
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upcoming Juiced.GS article explains (blatant plug!), it is slow on the
|
|
fastest Macs, let alone on a handheld. But you can read up on that when the
|
|
magazine comes out. :-)
|
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|
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What I am really waiting for is the Java Games Platform, or whatever the
|
|
latest acronym is. This is supposed to be super fast, and tuned for
|
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graphics performance. The reason Florence is so slow, is mainly because of
|
|
Java's graphics libraries. They're built to support multiple platforms, so
|
|
they're not entirely high performance technology!
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|
|
|
Regards,
|
|
Richard
|
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|
|
(RICHARDB, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 21)
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[EOA]
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[FTA]
|
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FILE TYPE ASSIGNMENT - Adobe Acrobat DOCUMENT
|
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
For future reference:
|
|
|
|
Major Category
|
|
==============
|
|
Filetype Category
|
|
-------- --------
|
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$54 Desktop Publishing
|
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|
Specific Assignment
|
|
===================
|
|
Filetype Auxiliary Type Finder Name
|
|
-------- -------------- -----------
|
|
$54 $0080 Adobe Acrobat document
|
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|
Ryan
|
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|
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(A2.RYAN, Cat 60, Top 3, Msg 28)
|
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[EOA]
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------------------------------------
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ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM |
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------------------------------------
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by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
|
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|
|
[TSU]
|
|
TO SIGN UP FOR SYNDICOMM ONLINE
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Please visit our web site at http://www.syndicomm.com for information or to
|
|
sign up!
|
|
|
|
(Logon message)
|
|
[EOA]
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------------------------------------
|
|
DISTILLATIONS FROM DELPHI A2 |
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------------------------------------
|
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|
by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
|
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|
|
[NAT]
|
|
NEW TO THE Apple II - HAVE QUESTIONS
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Hi,
|
|
I am new to the Apple community. I am a classic computer and video game
|
|
collector. Back in the early 80's I always wanted an Apple IIe. That was
|
|
the first system I was taught on in Junior Highschool. I eventually got a
|
|
Commodore 64 and never entered the world of the Apple II's. :( Today I just
|
|
won an Apple IIgs ROM03 system and I'm very anxious to start using it once
|
|
it arrives. I have some questions and hope some of you might be able to
|
|
answer them.
|
|
|
|
1. I have many Apple II images on my PC network. I want to be able to
|
|
transfer those images back to Apple IIgs floppies. I'm currently looking
|
|
for the best way to accomplish this.
|
|
|
|
I've read about the PC Transporter and the Bluedisk card, but recently I
|
|
stumbled upon an item called a Super Disk. Can anyone out there tell me:
|
|
|
|
1a. What do I need to run this Super Disk on a IIgs ROM 03 1 MEG RAM? Do I
|
|
need some sort of add-on card and then a Super Disk? Is there any special
|
|
type I need?
|
|
|
|
1b. I was a bit confused with the PC Transporter. I read briefly in one
|
|
location that it put a full Apple IIe in your PC, but on another site it
|
|
seems that the Transporter is for the IIs to run MFM Floppies.
|
|
|
|
Either way can anyone tell me the most efficient way to transfer the apple
|
|
images from a PC back to a IIgs readable floppy? Also, I know about the
|
|
null modem cable concept, but that won't work as I don't have a PC in the
|
|
same room as my classic systems.
|
|
|
|
2. SCSI Hard Drives. Is there any specific type of SCSI hard drives I need
|
|
to get to install on my IIgs? Also, do I need special brackets to mount it
|
|
inside the unit or do external SCSI Hard Drives only work with a IIgs?
|
|
|
|
2a. Is there a hard card that plugs into any of the IIgs slots? I had an
|
|
old hard card for my first PC and was curious to know if there may be a
|
|
SCSI hard card for the IIgs?
|
|
|
|
3. Is there a nice laser printer that anyone can recommend that will work
|
|
with the IIgs?
|
|
|
|
4. Is there any preferable joystick to get to use with IIgs games?
|
|
|
|
Well, I guess that is all for now. I hope someone here can answer some of
|
|
my questions. :)
|
|
|
|
My email address is discmaster1@soznet.net
|
|
|
|
Thanks
|
|
|
|
(DISCMASTER1, 3612.1, Delphi A2 web side)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
>> I am new to the Apple community. <<
|
|
|
|
Welcome! Incidentally you should know there's not much Apple II activity
|
|
remaining here on Delphi. You can find most of us either on Usenet's
|
|
comp.sys.apple2 newsgroup (free) or Syndicomm's A2Central forum (pay
|
|
service). In the meantime, you can still find some help here, though you
|
|
may find it sparse.
|
|
|
|
>> I am a classic computer and video game collector. <<
|
|
|
|
I've mostly collected vintage Apple systems, though in the last few years I
|
|
started collecting other computers and game consoles too (heh, as a matter
|
|
of fact, just this afternoon I picked up a ColecoVision and Intellivision
|
|
by chance).
|
|
|
|
>> Back in the early 80's I always wanted an Apple IIe. That was the first
|
|
system I was taught on in Junior Highschool. I eventually got a Commodore
|
|
64 and never entered the world of the Apple II's. :( <<
|
|
|
|
Funny, I had mostly the same start but with the opposite outcome. I ended
|
|
up with an Apple II Plus just before junior high school and missed out on
|
|
the Commodore 64 (I don't _at all_ regret the path I took starting out with
|
|
the Apple II, but I recently sought out a working C64 and meaning to
|
|
explore what I missed out on).
|
|
|
|
>> Today I just won an Apple IIgs ROM03 system and I'm very anxious to
|
|
start using it once it arrives. I have some questions and hope some of you
|
|
might be able to answer them. <<
|
|
|
|
You should know while the IIgs is backwards compatible with the 8-bit
|
|
Apple II in emulation-mode (which works quite transparently as you'll soon
|
|
see) it has a native side that makes it very similar to the Amiga. That
|
|
reminds me of another machine I'd like to go back and explore, I have some
|
|
A500's and 2000's in various states sitting around here but missing a piece
|
|
or two to get them running. Anyhow, I'm seem to be digressing from your
|
|
questions, so....
|
|
|
|
>> A) What do I need to run this Super Disk on a IIgs ROM 03 1 MEG RAM? Do
|
|
I need some sort of add-on card and then a Super Disk? Is there any special
|
|
type I need? <<
|
|
|
|
You must mean the "SuperDrive" option. It's merely an external 1.44MB
|
|
floppy drive setup that can handle both GCR (Apple) and MFM (DOS/Windows)
|
|
formatted 3.5 diskettes.
|
|
|
|
You can use an official Apple SuperDrive or some of the third party
|
|
compatibles out there (i.e. Applied Engineering, AMR). A popular option is
|
|
to take the standard Apple 3.5 drive and swap the 800K mechanism with a
|
|
1.44MB one pulled from an old Macintosh--it's a pretty trivial upgrade
|
|
requiring only a screwdriver really. I have two "SuperDrives" which are
|
|
merely standard Apple 3.5 drives I self-upgraded.
|
|
|
|
The catch is, yes, you'll need an add-on card so the IIgs can recognize it
|
|
as a high-density drive and read/write IBM floppies. The card is called the
|
|
"Apple II 3.5 Disk Controller Card". They're not very common but Sherves
|
|
Systems was selling them not too long ago.
|
|
|
|
>> B) I was a bit confused with the PC Transporter. I read briefly in one
|
|
location that it put a full Apple IIe in your PC, but on another site it
|
|
seems that the Transporter is for the IIs to run MFM Floppies.
|
|
|
|
It's neither exactly. It's a 50-pin slot card that plugs into the Apple II
|
|
(II Plus, IIe and IIgs) and hardware emulates an IBM XT class PC.
|
|
Specifically a fast 8086-compatible (NEC V30) with 640K, CGA and support
|
|
for PC-MFM drives--or even allow a standard Apple 800K drive to read/write
|
|
720K MFM floppies in IBM mode if attached to the PC-Transporter. It'll also
|
|
work with the SuperDrive if you have that special controller card, but at
|
|
that point you're better off using GS/OS's built-in MSDOS FST (File System
|
|
Translator; an FST lets the IIgs's OS see foreign formatted devices as if
|
|
they were Apple formatted).
|
|
|
|
>> Either way can anyone tell me the most efficient way to transfer the
|
|
apple images from a PC back to a IIgs readable floppy? Also, I know about
|
|
the null modem cable concept, but that won't work as I don't have a PC in
|
|
the same room as my classic systems. <<
|
|
|
|
I personally prefer the SuperDrive option. I just use my PIII to download
|
|
disk-images or files onto floppy, then pop the disk into my GS and it reads
|
|
it just like that. It's a god-send considering I no longer have my IIgs
|
|
connected to the Internet.
|
|
|
|
I had only used a null-modem hook up for transferring files larger than
|
|
1.4M (it works nicely actually since the GS can handle 57.6K through the
|
|
serial port) though these days I use an IOmega Zip disk (I have an external
|
|
Zip on the GS, and an internal on a P133 in another room). Ethernet is
|
|
another option as of recently, but the card is rather expensive.
|
|
|
|
Oh, if you have a Macintosh in your collection, you can use that as a
|
|
bridge between a IIgs and PC for floppy transfers (MSDOS->HFS->ProDOS).
|
|
Older Macintosh machines can read 1.44MB MSDOS and write to 800K ProDOS
|
|
disks. They can also do AppleTalk networking with the IIgs (i.e.
|
|
PC/Ethernet->Mac/Ethernet-Mac/AppleTalk->GS/AppleTalk)
|
|
|
|
>> 2. SCSI Hard Drives. Is there any specific type of SCSI hard drives I
|
|
need to get to install on my IIgs? <<
|
|
|
|
No, most SCSI drives should work fine (I'd just recommend at least a 4500
|
|
RPM drive).
|
|
|
|
What you do need to seek out specifically is an Apple II SCSI-based slot
|
|
card. Apple made two (one DMA, one non-DMA) and even more popular is the
|
|
"RamFAST SCSI" controller. Unfortunately these cards are in high demand
|
|
among users so it may be pricey to get a hold of one.
|
|
|
|
>> Also, do I need special brackets to mount it inside the unit or do
|
|
external SCSI Hard Drives only work with a IIgs? <<
|
|
|
|
External SCSI drives have always been more common for the IIgs and what
|
|
you'd be likely to use. There WERE internal drive setups though, in fact
|
|
the IIgs sitting beside me has a 240MB drive mounted internally using a
|
|
product called the Pegasus (another rarity). I've been meaning to replace
|
|
the mechanism with a 1.2GB since the older 240 drive seems to be failing
|
|
and a bit small for my own needs.
|
|
|
|
>> 2a. Is there a hard card that plugs into any of the IIgs slots? I had
|
|
an old hard card for my first PC and was curious to know if <<
|
|
|
|
Yep. There are two IDE-based HardCards, one sold in the US (Alltech) and
|
|
the other sold in Europe (SHH Systemes). I believe the Alltech Focus
|
|
HardCard is more affordable, have a look at: www.allelec.com
|
|
|
|
>> there may be a SCSI hard card for the IIgs? <<
|
|
|
|
No, but there was the RoadRunner card. It let you mount a 3.5 SCSI drive on
|
|
a slot card that then connected to a standard SCSI controller (Apple or
|
|
RamFAST) in an adjacent slot. It was the same concept as using an external
|
|
SCSI drive, except the drive drew its power from the GS's powersupply and
|
|
lived inside the case. A sort of pseudo HardCard I suppose.
|
|
|
|
>> 3. Is there a nice laser printer that anyone can recommend that will
|
|
work with the IIgs? <<
|
|
|
|
Several work will work (a parallel card may be required if it doesn't
|
|
support serial) though you'd definitely want a software driver package
|
|
called "Harmonie". A couple of years back I successfully had the GS
|
|
printing off my brother's Hewlett Packard LaserJet 5L printer. The IIgs
|
|
also supports TrueType font technology with a package called "Pointless".
|
|
|
|
I believe Shareware Solutions II carries both pieces of software.
|
|
|
|
>> 4. Is there any preferable joystick to get to use with IIgs games? <<
|
|
|
|
It's a matter of choice. My favorite is the CH Products Mach III joystick.
|
|
I have several others (e.g. Epyx, Gravis, Apple) and I can't say I ever
|
|
liked those much. The official Apple-brand joystick is quite awful in many
|
|
respects btw, avoid it if possible.
|
|
|
|
Speaking of games, you may want to visit the Apple IIGS Gaming Memory
|
|
Fairway (http://www.inwards.com/~fairway). As usual, I should state my
|
|
disclaimer that I feel the site is valuable as an Apple IIgs museum
|
|
(memorabilia, screen shots, reviews, articles) rather than a software
|
|
archive site. I've spent a good number of hours just reading reviews and
|
|
getting nostalgic looking at scanned GS advertisements. :)
|
|
|
|
If you're new to the IIgs and wondering what the machine was all about,
|
|
I can't think of anything more perfect to read than Alex Lee's commentary
|
|
on the IIgs: http://www.inwards.com/~fairway/intro.html
|
|
|
|
Another two must-visit sites as far as the IIgs is concerned btw:
|
|
www.a2central.com
|
|
www.ninjaforce.com
|
|
|
|
>> Well, I guess that is all for now. I hope someone here can answer some
|
|
of my questions. :) <<
|
|
|
|
Let me know if you have any more... :)
|
|
|
|
Mitchell Spector
|
|
a_specto@alcor.concordia.ca
|
|
|
|
(SPECTOR1, 3612.3, Delphi A2 web side)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
------------------------------------
|
|
DISTILLATIONS FROM DELPHI A2Pro |
|
|
------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
|
|
|
|
[CTS]
|
|
ANNOUNCING - CRYPTO TOOL SET
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Announcing - Crypto tool set version 1.0 System Tool 129.
|
|
|
|
Now available from my website:
|
|
http://home.ozonline.com.au/klajr/apple/crypto.html
|
|
|
|
The Vision:
|
|
A tool set that provides a library of encryption and decryption functions
|
|
using a variety of algorithms.
|
|
|
|
Version 1.0 desCipher - DES encryption and decryption
|
|
The DES cipher routines were implemented by Robert V. Medshaw.
|
|
desAddParity - adds parity bits to a 56-bit key
|
|
|
|
The source code for the tool set has been released under the GNU Lesser
|
|
General Public License so that others can contribute to the development of
|
|
the tool set. The source code for the tool set has been made available in
|
|
CVS as part of the Marinetti Open Source Project.
|
|
|
|
The DES cipher routines have not been placed in CVS for two reasons:
|
|
1) as they are Copyright 1979 BYTE Magazine
|
|
2) US Government Export restrictions may apply
|
|
|
|
Downloads available:
|
|
* Apple IIgs Crypto tool set & programmer documentation
|
|
* Apple IIgs Crypto tool set with complete source code including DES cipher
|
|
routines (Merlin assembler)
|
|
* Apple II/e/c version of DES cipher routines (Merlin assembler)
|
|
|
|
(ROUGHANA, 418.2, Delphi A2Pro web side)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
[TTC]-------------------------------
|
|
THE TINKERER'S CORNER |
|
|
------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
|
|
|
|
[YAI]
|
|
YOU ARE INVITED
|
|
"""""""""""""""
|
|
You are invited to submit your favorite Tinkerer's Project for the Apple II
|
|
computers.
|
|
|
|
Send your write up or idea to Lyle Syverson, Editor <lyle@FoxValley.net>
|
|
|
|
The Editor reserves the right to edit any material submitted.
|
|
|
|
The Editor reserves the right to reject any material he considers
|
|
unsuitable for publication in _The Lamp!_.
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[CDD]
|
|
Putting Together a Working CD ROM Drive
|
|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
|
By Lyle Syverson
|
|
|
|
A lot of software for the Apple II is now available on CD ROM. One way to
|
|
get this software to your computer is to equip your IIgs with a CD ROM
|
|
drive.
|
|
|
|
This project is made easier by the fact that there really is a lot of
|
|
standardization of the necessary connections among the various SCSI drives
|
|
and the enclosures. The power connectors and the SCSI cable connectors are
|
|
designed so the can only be connected one way.
|
|
|
|
What You Will Need
|
|
''''''''''''''''''
|
|
1. An enclosure (case). The ideal one has a built in power supply and
|
|
cooling fan. The front of the CD ROM mechanism will need to be accessible
|
|
to the outside of the case. Depending on the enclosure available, this
|
|
might require some ingenuity. The old SyQuest 44 and 88 removable media
|
|
drives are an excellent source of an enclosure for this project. After the
|
|
SyQuest mechanism has been removed the CD ROM mechanism can be neatly
|
|
mounted flush with the front of the case.
|
|
|
|
2. The CD ROM drive mechanism. These can be found in some of the older,
|
|
unwanted Mac computers.
|
|
|
|
3. SCSI cables. One to connect the SCSI card in your computer to the
|
|
connector on the enclosure. Another one to connect the first case to the
|
|
second case if you plan to have more than one drive connected at the same
|
|
time.
|
|
|
|
4. A terminator might be necessary if there is no provision for termination
|
|
on the drive itself.
|
|
|
|
5. A SCSI card.
|
|
|
|
Where to Get What You Need
|
|
''''''''''''''''''''''''''
|
|
1. Thrift stores.
|
|
|
|
2. Garage sales.
|
|
|
|
3. Usenet... comp.sys.apple2.marketplace
|
|
|
|
4. A2 on Syndicomm
|
|
|
|
5. LEM-Swap list <http://lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html>
|
|
|
|
6. Alltech Electronics <http://www.allelec.com/indexa2.html">
|
|
|
|
8. Other World Computer <http://www.macsales.com/">
|
|
|
|
9. Mac-Res-Q <http:/www.macresq.com> or call 1-888-447-3728
|
|
|
|
Installing the Drive in the Enclosure
|
|
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
|
|
1. Open the case.
|
|
|
|
2. Disconnect and remove the old drive. Make notes of connections for the
|
|
SCSI id control and the activity light.
|
|
|
|
3. Mount the new drive securely within the case.
|
|
|
|
4. Connect the power cable and the SCSI cable. The connectors are built so
|
|
can they only be connected one way.
|
|
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5. Connect the SCSI id system if it will fit. Otherwise set the SCSI id of
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the drive using jumpers. (See the section on SCSI id).
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6. Connect the activity light. (The drive will work just fine even if you
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can not make this connection).
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7. Close the case.
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Using the 'New' CD ROM Drive
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''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
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1. Using your System 6.01 installation disks...
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a. Install the CD ROM Driver.
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b. Install the HFS FST.
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c. Patch the HFS FST. (Downloaded link:)
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http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/apple16/System/FSTs/PATCHHFS.SHK
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2. Connect the drive to the SCSI card using the appropriate cable.
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3. Boot your IIgs... your CD ROM drive is ready to use.
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Rules For the SCSI Chain
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''''''''''''''''''''''''
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1. The chain must have term power.
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a. The RamFast SCSI card can provide term power by setting a switch.
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b. The Apple HS and Rev.C SCSI cards do not supply term power but can
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be modified to do so.
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To modify the Apple SCSI cards to provide term power see:
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http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/Docs/hispeed.gif
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http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/Docs/revc.gif
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c. Some drives supply term power to the SCSI chain.
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2. Termination... The device (hard drive, CD ROM drive, etc.) at each end
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of the chain must be terminated.
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a. The RamFast and Apple HS SCSI cards are terminated.
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b. The Apple Rev.C card is not terminated. It can be terminated by
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placing a 'pass through' terminator between the card and the first
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SCSI device.
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c. Some drives are terminated internally. Some drives control
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internal termination with a jumper. Some drives have a switch
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outside the case to turn termination on or off. A drive that is
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not terminated internally can be terminated externally by
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installing a terminator on one of the SCSI connectors on the
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outside of the case.
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3. NOTE... term power and termination are two different things. Each must
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be dealt with separately according to the appropriate rule.
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4. Each device in the chain must have a unique SCSI id. SCSI id's range
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from 0 through 7.
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a. When using the Apple HS and Rev.C SCSI cards id 7 is reserved for
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the use of the card.
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b. The RamFast SCSI card operates without a SCSI id.
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5. Setting the SCSI id of a hard drive or CD ROM drive.
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a. Most enclosures (cases) have a device outside the case to set the
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SCSI id of the drive. If you are installing a drive in a new or
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used case you might or might not be able to properly connect the
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drive to the external id switch.
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b. If you can not properly connect the drive to this switch you can
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control the SCSI id of the drive using jumpers. You can often find
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out how to do this for a given drive by visiting the web site of
|
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the manufacturer of that drive.
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See: "Controlling the SCSI ID of Hard Drive" in TLMP0201
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At: http://lamp.a2central.com/
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Example SCSI Chain
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''''''''''''''''''
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Apple HS SCSI card SCSI id=7 Terminated
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SCSI cable
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CD ROM drive SCSI id=0 Not terminated
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SCSI cable
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Hard drive SCSI id=6
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External terminator Terminates the hard drive
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[EOA]
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR |
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[NLE]
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NO LETTERS TO THE EDITOR THIS MONTH
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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The mail box for Letters to the Editor remained empty this month.
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[EOA]
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[LTE]
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AN INVITATION
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Express your opinions about the comings and goings in the world of the
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Apple II computers.
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Send your comments to Lyle Syverson, Editor <lyle@FoxValley.net>
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The Editor reserves the right to edit any material submitted.
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The Editor reserves the right to reject any material he considers
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unsuitable for publication in _The Lamp!_.
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[EOA]
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[KFT]------------------------------
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KFest 2002 |
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-----------------------------------
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[KFR]
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KFest REMINDER
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""""""""""""""
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There is a lot of kid in going to Kfest, no doubt. I always bring projects
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most of which I don't get done. I wish it had rained earlier in the week,
|
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so temperature would go down. But not on Wednesday. This was a warm year,
|
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not truly hot. There was one year when leaving the window open was great!
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Not this year.
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I have not written my review of Kfest yet, the muse has not struck. Can
|
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someone help me get started by reminding me of important facts? I think
|
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that might help me get of the dime. Last year it just burning inside and I
|
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could hardly keep it in. This year the pictures were where most of my
|
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energy went. I still need to completely finish the spread, sadly. I need
|
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to get a new ftp program I guess. <<sigh>>
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Bruce
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(BBAKER, Cat 5, Top 5, Msg 9)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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Bruce,
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|
Will start you off by reminding you how wonderful it is that we can all get
|
|
together and see each other every year at KFest:) Everyone just assumes
|
|
KFest will happen every year. That is not so. KFest happens because there's
|
|
enough interest to make it happen and permit us to get together. In other
|
|
words, KFest happens because of those who attend/support KFest. It's still
|
|
the attendees that are responsible for KFest every year, although there are
|
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incredible contributions by many that can't attend but want to add what
|
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they can and be a part of the yearly gathering.
|
|
|
|
Like always, there were significant highlights (at least for me) besides
|
|
seeing everyone able to attend. Among them:
|
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|
1. Hmm. Number 1 again is the camaraderie and help from all who were able
|
|
to attend. We always have one very special group at KFest!
|
|
2. Syndicomm support and the Softdisk announcement. Sheppy just seems to
|
|
have more energy than I'll ever be able to muster in support of KFest.
|
|
3. A major highlight every year is the newbies and I wasn't disappointed to
|
|
see the "new members" who attended this year! I know better than to feel
|
|
they are newbies. They may be new to KFest but they've always been
|
|
experienced users who have added to everyone's enjoyment, and hopefully
|
|
will return in coming years to continue the sharing of information that
|
|
is such a big part of KFest.
|
|
4. I'd like to mention Shawn Beattie once again. He's provided the
|
|
projector for years now and has only been to ONE KFest:( Maybe you
|
|
could mention something in your review that would get him to attend next
|
|
year:)
|
|
5. Ditto for Jerry Cline. Jerry couldn't make it this year and we missed
|
|
him. Although he couldn't attend, he's done outstanding work for KFest
|
|
again this year and was a tremendous help to all of us.
|
|
6. Not sure how you can fit this in, but Sean is a new Dad and we learned
|
|
about that special event at KFest. Maybe you could handle that as I did
|
|
and note how happy we all were to welcome a new addition to our "KFest
|
|
Family":) Somehow I think you understand what I mean and why that was
|
|
an important event for us.
|
|
7. The BBQ! A thought that blossomed. Thanks to Ryan and Kirk, especially,
|
|
for making this happen, and happen so well! It's probably going become
|
|
a tradition at KFest after the wonderful experience we had this year.
|
|
Will be difficult to relate to anyone who hasn't attended KFest, but a
|
|
lot of the "allure" of KFest is hard to explain to anyone who hasn't
|
|
been there and experienced it in person;)
|
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|
|
Hope that gets you started:) It's all "off the top of my head" and I
|
|
haven't mentioned all the wonderful contributions made by each and every
|
|
attendee this year.
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|
|
Great KFest again; looking forward to next year,
|
|
Steve
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(KFESTSTEVE, Cat 5, Top 5, Msg 11)
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|
[EOA]
|
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[PFK]
|
|
PICTURES FROM KFest 2002
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
OK, the almost final online edition of my photos of kfest is ready.
|
|
This is the final beta. (Does that sound right?)
|
|
|
|
www.hal-pc.org/~bbaker/kfest2002.html
|
|
|
|
captions, where there are some, are embedded in the alt tag so if you hold
|
|
the mouse over the picture the caption should appear.
|
|
|
|
This must be close to 100 pictures, I did not count. Feel free to use
|
|
them with attribution. Thanks.
|
|
|
|
Breaking most cameramen's rule, my picture actually does appear a few
|
|
times. Of course I got to pose for my pictures, most of the rest of you
|
|
didn't get that advantage. hehehe But most of you look natural and that is
|
|
nice, really.
|
|
|
|
Enjoy
|
|
Bruce Baker
|
|
|
|
(BBAKER, Cat 5, Top 5, Msg 16)
|
|
[EOA]
|
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|
|
[KFT]------------------------------
|
|
KFest 2003 |
|
|
-----------------------------------
|
|
|
|
[PBT]
|
|
KFest 2003 - PLAN TO BE THERE!
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
KansasFest 2003 is planned for July 22-27, 2003 at Avila University in
|
|
Kansas City, Missouri.
|
|
|
|
(Entrance banner, Cat 5, Top 5)
|
|
[EOA]
|
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[INN]------------------------------
|
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EXTRA INNINGS |
|
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-----------------------------------
|
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About The Lamp! The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month on
|
|
""""""""""""""" the WEB at: http://lamp.a2central.com/
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|
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This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computers
|
|
using Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes. Apple II Forever!
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|
|
|
* The Lamp! is (c) copyright 2002 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W. All
|
|
rights reserved.
|
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|
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* To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to
|
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thelamp@sheppyware.net
|
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|
|
* All issues of The Lamp! are available at The Lamp! Home Page,
|
|
http://lamp.a2central.com/
|
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|
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
|
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Opinions expressed herein are those of the individual authors, and do not
|
|
necessarily represent the opinions of A2Central.com, Delphi Online
|
|
Services, Syndicomm, Ryan M. Suenaga, or Lyle Syverson. Forum messages are
|
|
reprinted verbatim and are included in this publication with permission
|
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from the individual authors. A2Central.com, Delphi Online Services,
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Syndicomm, Ryan M. Suenaga, and Lyle Syverson do not guarantee the accuracy
|
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or suitability of any information included herein. We reserve the right to
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edit all letters and copy.
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|
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Material published in this edition may not be reprinted without the
|
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expressed written consent of the publisher. Registered computer user
|
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groups, not for profit publications , and other interested parties may
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write the publisher to apply for permission to reprint any or all material.
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