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>>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<<
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SCRIPTING AND MACROS: Getting Started With Marinetti
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THE WAY WE WERE: User Group Reprints
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AND THE BEST OF THE A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS
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"Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998"
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The Lamp! An Onipa'a Software Production Vol. 2, No. 7
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Publisher & Editor.......................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
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Internet Email....................................thelamp@sheppyware.net
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
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July 15, 1999
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OPENING PITCH
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Home And I'm Staying This Time --------------------------------- [OPN]
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A FUNNY THING HAPPENED [FOR]
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The Heat Is On ------------------------------------------------- [HET]
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Miscellanea [MSC]
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Rumor Mill ----------------------------------------------------- [RMR]
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Public Postings [PUB]
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Best Of The Best ----------------------------------------------- [BOB]
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A2Pro_DUCTIVITY
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Checking out A2PRO on Delphi ----------------------------------- [A2P]
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THE WAY WE WERE
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Some Thoughts on Accounting for Apple IIe/IIgs-Circa '93 ------- [WWW]
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SCRIPTING AND MACROS
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Getting Started With Marinetti --------------------------------- [S&M]
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EXTRA INNINGS
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About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]
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[*] [*] [*]
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READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make
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""""""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this
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issue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will find
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something like:
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EXTRA INNINGS
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About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]
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To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate
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[INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].
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:: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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: I know they're not metal, but teeth were :
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: NOT made for stripping live wires! :
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[EOA]
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[OPN]------------------------------
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OPENING PITCH |
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From The Editor
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by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
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[thelamp@sheppyware.net]
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HOME AND I'M STAYING THIS TIME
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This is the KansasFest that almost never was.
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Not for the rest of you, but for me.
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Since 1995, the year there really almost never was a KansasFest, I've
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made it a point to get myself over to Avila in the heat of the Kansas City
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summer. If the Apple II was going to die, I was going to be there when it
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happened. Thankfully, it hasn't died since I've been going to KFest, which
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reinforced my paranoia--or self-fulfilling prophecy. If I kept going to
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Avila, the Apple II would never die. So far, I've been correct.
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But 1999 was supposed to be the year I couldn't make it. Despite all
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my planning and scheming and saving and working, there was just no way I
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could be there. I had a commitment to be elsewhere in August, and funds
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and vacation time are limited resources. I couldn't be everywhere I wanted
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to be or needed to be, and myself and my lady friend were booked to be in
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California just weeks after KansasFest was scheduled to happen.
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The way things turned out--times change, people change, events change.
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No U.S.C. visit for me this year. Or ever, I think.
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In the end, though, some things stay the same. There's me and my
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Apple II. And KansasFest in the heat of the July summer.
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For those of you who won't be joining me at Avila's hallowed halls
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this year, remember--love the people in your life like there's no tomorrow,
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because when you come right down to it, there really isn't.
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Time Is On My Side Department: Last pre-KFest '99 Blatant Plug.
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KansasFest 1999 is on for July 21-25, 1999 (with special early arrival
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events on the 20th), in Kansas City, Missouri at Avila College. Stay up
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all night, laugh all day, hang out all night. Latest info can be found at
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http://www.kfest.org.
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Because some things never change.
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When we said Apple II Forever, we really meant it.
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Ryan
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ASCII ART BEGINS
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A FUNNY THING HAPPENED. . . . |
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Checking out A2 on Delphi
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by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
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[thelamp@sheppyware.net]
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* The Heat Is On
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* Miscellanea
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* Rumor Mill
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* Public Postings
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* Best Of The Best
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THE HEAT IS ON
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[*] Vendors & Tech Support ....... Sheppy On The Move
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[*] Telecommunications ....... A2 Specific ISPs?
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[*] The Apple II Legacy ....... KFest: What's Sleep?
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[*] Vendors & Tech Support ....... Forked Up In ProDOS 8
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MISCELLANEA
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SCOTT ALFTER'S COMPUTER COLLECTION There are two machines through which I
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They're both clones; the "front-end" machine is a homebrew K6-2-300 running
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Win98 and IE5 and the "back-end" machine (more like a server, really) is a
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homebrew Cx5x86-120 running Linux. The server dials out to my ISP through a
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USR Sportster Voice 56K external modem and shares that connection between
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these two machines and two others: a homebrew K6-200 parked under the TV
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(for DVD, CD, and MP3 playback, mainly) and a "stealth IIGS" (ROM 01
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motherboard in a IIe case). The three clones are on a Fast Ethernet LAN;
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the GS hooks into a serial port on the server, and it can connect either
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with ProTERM or Marinetti (though ProTERM is the more useful of the two
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until more software shows up that uses Marinetti).
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The complete rundown on the GS's config: 4.25 megs RAM, two 40-meg hard
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drives connected to a rev. C RamFAST (used to have a tape drive, too, but
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that went south; will probably replace it with a Zip drive eventually),
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3.5" and two 5.25" (DuoDisk) floppy drives, NEC MultiSync 3D monitor
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(Second Sight not needed, just the "Mac adapter" provided with the
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monitor), SoundMeister sound card, Imagewriter printer. I also rescued a
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StyleWriter from the trash recently. It self-tested OK after I gave it a
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thorough cleaning, a power supply, and a new ink cartridge.
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Off the network, I have a couple more Apples...a IIe that works and a II+
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that doesn't. I've also snagged a few other machines for the "antique
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computer collection"...a Commodore VIC-20 (with tape drive), a Tandy Color
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Computer 2 (with cartridge switch box and floppy controller, but no floppy
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drive), and an IBM PC/XT (with 640K RAM and 20-meg hard drive...thing's as
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slow as my IIe, maybe even slower in some respects...probably because of
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the original-equipment IBM CGA card still installed).
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-=IIGS=- Scott Alfter ( {<mailto:salfter@delphi.com> salfter@delphi.com})
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{<http://people.delphi.com/salfter> http://people.delphi.com/salfter}
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(SALFTER, 23496, GO COM A2)
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CAN YOU BOOT OFF OF APPLETALK WITH THE MAC'S BUILT-IN SHARING? No. To
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IIgs over an Appleshare network, you need to buy a full blown version of
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Appleshare (not the current version; I think 3.0 and earlier is what you
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need). You can file share with the personal Appleshare built into the Mac
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OS (nee Mac System Software) since System 7, but not boot.
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Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
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Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
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Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
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(RSUENAGA, 23564, GO COM A2)
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HOW DO I CONVERT AWGS WP TO OTHER PLATFORMS? Two paths that I have used:
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1) Open the AppleWorks GS file with EGOed 2.0 and save as RTF, then move to
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the PC (exercise left to student) and open with Word. The only problem
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that I know of with this method is that you only get one 'ruler', which
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is the first ruler that EGOed encounters in the AWGS file.
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2) Use the AWGS and RTF translators for GraphicWriter III. You can import
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the AWGS file into GWIII and then export it using the RTF translator,
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then move to the PC and open with Word. The main problem with this
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approach is the 32k frame size in GWIII. I suppose you could break a
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large AWGS file into segments, import it into multiple frames in GWIII,
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and then export multiple RTF files from the individual frames, but that
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could get a bit tedious. Worth it though, for 'valuable' documents.
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Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth)
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Woofed to you by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm via Bernie ][ the Rescue!
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(DZAHNISER, 23515, GO COM A2)
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REVISITING CONTACTS GS I guess it's time to remind Joe The HypeMeister to
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"""""""""""""""""""""" get back to work. In his absence, let me try to
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explain...
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Contacts GS is a New Desk Accessory that was written by Burger Bill
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Heineman as a name and address database. It includes a total of 10 fields
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for such things as First Name, Last Name, Address, City, State, Zip Code,
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Area Codes, and Phone Number.
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When Bill created Contacts, he was well aware that the AppleWorks Classic
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database was wonderful and popular, and so he programmed Contacts to save
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the data files with "Tabs between fields, and carriage returns between
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records"...which of course is how AW Classic saves its data files. So, all
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it takes is a few keystrokes to "convert" an AppleWorks database into a
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Contacts database, or vice versa.
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As easy and fast as it is to move data back and forth, when I took over as
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publisher, I decided to take an extra step and commissioned Will Nelken to
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create a TimeOut application (TO.ContactsMover) that would make it even
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easier to move data back and forth. There are three versions of that
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supplied on the Contacts disk...for AW3, AW4, and AW5
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As I implied before, you don't have to keep name/address information in
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Contacts. The program doesn't care, and neither do I ;-)
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But, you will be limited to only 10 fields, because that's all Contacts was
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programmed to accommodate. And, if I remember correctly, each field can be
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up to 79 characters.
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In my case, when I first started to use Contacts, I already had an
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AppleWorks Classic SSII subscriber/customer database, and using the TO
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module, it couldn't have taken me more than a few minutes to convert that
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to Contacts GS. Afterwards, I had the contents of my AW DB available from
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the Finder or any other GS program.
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Of course, it's not my actual AW DB that I'm looking at from the Finder;
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it's a Contacts GS database that was created from my AW DB.
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Contacts GS costs $20, and is available from:
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Joe Kohn
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Shareware Solutions II
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166 Alpine St
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San Rafael, CA 94901
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Joe
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(This message was spell checked by NiftySpell GS before it was posted.)
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(JOE_KOHN, 23511, GO COM A2)
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DEALING WITH HTML ON AN APPLE II Both SIS and Spectrum 2.2 will read an
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" HTML file, strip the tags, and display
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it as the page is intended to look. You can then print the resulting page,
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or save as a Teach file.
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Any other word processor will open an HTML file, but the tags will show.
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The version of Hermes that I have shows the tags. If there is a later
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version that strips the tags, I have not seen it...
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Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Wed 16 Jun 1999 - 35 days till KFest '99
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Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.0
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Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
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http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
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(EWANNOP, 23664, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> You might like what you find at this site:
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http://www.mich.com/~thomas/ftp/
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"t2tgrnest" is an awk program that takes HTML and converts it into plain
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text, with graphical or text (+-|) row/column separators. It does a great
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job with tables, and there are lots of options for customizing the way it
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displays them. I use this all the time for displaying box scores from
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espn.com, among other things.
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"lxtab" is a proxy and awk script that works fairly well with lynx.
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Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Sat Jun 19, 1999 2:03:25 pm
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[Delivered with Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold v3.1]
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I know they're not metal, but teeth were NOT made for stripping live
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wires!
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(TONYW1, 23767, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> If you have shell access on your ISP (and it sounds like you do),
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""""" why not just use Lynx as an HTML-to-text converter? Use something
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like this:
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lynx -dump http://www.randomwebpage.com >page.txt
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Is it an HTML-formatted file that you want to convert? Lynx does those,
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too...give it a filename instead of a URL and it'll read that. Lynx is also
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good at grabbing nearly anything off a web server...HTML source, pictures,
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whatever. Use the -source option instead of -dump. I use this on my Linux
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box to grab and archive each day's Dilbert off of the Dilbert website,
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among other things (have a cron job that calls a shell script for that).
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-=IIGS=- Scott Alfter ( {<mailto:salfter@delphi.com> salfter@delphi.com})
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{<http://people.delphi.com/salfter> http://people.delphi.com/salfter}
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(SALFTER, 23782, GO COM A2)
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CAN I READ PRODOS MFM DISKETTES ON A WINDOWS THING? Yep! From memory the
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" name is ProCopy and I
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think the author is Hugh McKay (another Canadian!).
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Of course, I personally find it easier to read and write MS-DOS disks
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directly on the GS! ;-)
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--
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Peter Watson
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-- Write to MSDOS disks on the Apple IIgs?
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-- Impossible! ;-)
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(PETERWATSON, 23519, GO COM A2)
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MSDOS FST TRIVIA FROM THE MUG!STER The problem is that MS-DOS stores the
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" volume name in a fake file entry in
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the root directory. The entry is marked with a special file attribute. When
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Windows 95 came along and wanted to create long filenames, they needed some
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way of marking directory entries as "special", but there were no spare
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attribute bits. The solution was to use an "impossible" combination of
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attribute bits, one of which was the "volume label" bit. This is fine as
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long as programs which check for the volume name check that the other bits
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aren't on. The MSDOS FST (and for a long time, PC Exchange on the Mac!)
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don't check properly.
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So why does this cause problems? Well, if a disk hasn't been given a volume
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label (fairly common since they are totally optional in the MS-DOS world),
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and the root directory has a Win 95 long filename in it, then the MSDOS FST
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tries to use the (hidden) long filename entry as a volume label. They are
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NOT similar! Usually it just ignores the disk. If you're unlucky, it's
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reboot time. :-(
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While I'm all in favor of people using MUG!,
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:-)
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using it to give the disk a name won't help if there are already long
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filenames in the root directory. The volume label entry doesn't have to be
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at the start of the directory, so the MS-DOS FST will still trip over the
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long filename entry first.
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The best (and simplest) advice is that whenever you format an MS-DOS disk,
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always give it a volume label. The MSDOS FST still won't see the long
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filenames, but it should see and work with the short filename for each
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file. (Of course, MUG! lets you see the long filenames too... ;-)
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Peter Watson
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-- Write to MSDOS disks on the Apple IIgs?
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-- Impossible! ;-)
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(PETERWATSON, 23683, GO COM A2)
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HARDWARE HACKING WITH SHOEHORNS A while back, I bought in on one of the
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" 14-MHz 65816 bulk purchases, thinking it
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and a faster crystal would get my computer cruising in high style. I also
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had some SRAM sitting idle on a 486 motherboard that I figured I'd use to
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also bring the cache up to 64K (it was originally 16K, and the original
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speed was 8 MHz).
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At first, it wasn't so simple. The computer would start up, but either it'd
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bomb out of Finder, not boot up all the way, or do other strange weirdness.
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This was with it running at 8 MHz, which should've been OK. With a chat
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session open to Harold Hislop (the resident hardware guru) on the Win98
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box, we narrowed it down to bad cache. (The chips came off an Amptron
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motherboard, which figures. :-| )
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I put an order in to Jameco for SRAM and some oscillators in various
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speeds. The parts got here (cost was less than $20) and I put them in. Now
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it ran fine at 8 MHz, but it still glitched at 10 MHz. I added some bypass
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and filter capacitors to the ZipGS as had been suggested...still no joy.
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From what I had been told, the only likely cause left was that the power
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supply wasn't strong enough. Mine is a "stealth GS," a ROM 01 motherboard
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in a IIe case, and I was still using the stock IIe power supply. In
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addition to the ZipGS, there's also a rev. C RamFAST, a SoundMeister, and a
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4-meg RAM-GS sucking down power.
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I decided to get creative. I could've bought a heavy-duty power supply for
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$70 or so...kinda spendy. I could've bought a Bugg-Power...but I have
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enough boxes cluttering my desk already.
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I decided to do something similar to the Bugg-Power, but with the power
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supply shoehorned inside the case. (Actually, a IIe case has considerably
|
|
more room inside than a IIGS case, which was useful.) I took the "guts" out
|
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of a 230W PS/2-type AT power supply (had one kicking around doing nothing,
|
|
but a new one would've only cost $25 or so), changed the motherboard power
|
|
connector from the usual pair of 6-pin connectors to something the GS
|
|
motherboard would take (two .156" Molex KK connectors, one 2-pin and one
|
|
4-pin), and mounted it as far back in the case as it'd go with 3/8"
|
|
threaded aluminum standoffs and 1/4" 6-32 screws. The supply had a
|
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voltage-select switch on it like all clone supplies do, but I don't
|
|
anticipate leaving the country anytime soon, so I just jumpered the
|
|
appropriate connection to fix it at 120V. The power outlet and switch were
|
|
mounted on a piece of metal cut from the power supply enclosure and
|
|
attached to the back of the computer case with 1/2" 2-56 screws, which were
|
|
cut as short as possible with a Dremel after installation. I had installed
|
|
a 3" cooling fan several years ago, so I hooked it to the connector
|
|
provided on the power supply for that purpose (it had previously tapped the
|
|
+12 supply wire).
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|
|
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I put it all back together, and the thing's so far been rock-solid at 12.5
|
|
MHz! (I thought I had the 8- or 10-MHz oscillator (yes, I know they're
|
|
marked 4x faster), but it had gotten the oscillator for 12.5-MHz
|
|
operation.) The system booted into Finder without a hitch. I let it run
|
|
BitBanger for a little bit, then switched to a Mandelbrot program which has
|
|
also run flawlessly.
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|
|
|
There's even enough space left for a 3.5" hard drive to be installed, and I
|
|
left a couple of disk-drive power cables attached to the supply for that
|
|
purpose. I've made the appropriate modifications to my RamFAST (added a
|
|
50-pin connector and put the onboard terminator packs in sockets so they
|
|
could be removed), but I seem to have misplaced the terminator packs for my
|
|
hard drives. (No, the ones used by the RamFAST won't work...the RamFAST
|
|
uses two 8-line packs, while the hard drives use three 6-line packs.) An
|
|
order is in to DigiKey for those, and then I'll have a IIGS with an
|
|
internal hard drive that's not in an x86 clone case! (It still won't have
|
|
an internal floppy drive, but the iMac doesn't have one either, and at
|
|
least the GS has a place to plug in a normal floppy drive. :-) )
|
|
|
|
On an unrelated note, I found a StyleWriter in the trash can in the laundry
|
|
room a month or so ago. It looked kinda nasty and was missing the power
|
|
supply, but it cleaned up nicely enough and is only missing the wire
|
|
paper-support thingy at the back. With a new ink cartridge (Canon BC-02,
|
|
which is the closest I found) and a heavy-duty 9V wall-wart, it printed its
|
|
self-test properly. I've now had a chance to plug it into the GS, and it
|
|
printed a document just fine, with only a couple of misfeeds.
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|
|
|
The bottom line? Well under $100 in parts, with a few hours to get it all
|
|
sorted out, and my GS is now running better than it ever did. Not bad.
|
|
(Hell, it's probably faster now than the 12-MHz 286 I used to have...it
|
|
even has more memory, but it has had 4.25 megs for the longest time.)
|
|
|
|
-=IIGS=- Scott Alfter ( {<mailto:salfter@delphi.com> salfter@delphi.com})
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{<http://people.delphi.com/salfter> http://people.delphi.com/salfter}
|
|
(SALFTER, 23781, GO COM A2)
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|
NIFTYSPELL AUTHOR KEPT BUSY FOR NEXT TWO DECADES Just wanted all my A2
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" friends to know that I
|
|
am the proud poppa of a bouncing baby boy.
|
|
|
|
Name: Nicholas Patrick
|
|
DOB: June 07, 1999
|
|
TOB: 1632
|
|
Weight: 8 lbs 6.7 oz
|
|
Length: 20.5"
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|
|
|
Mother and baby are all doing fine.
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|
|
|
Chris
|
|
(CVAVRUSKA, 23590, GO COM A2)
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|
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|
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|
HARDWARE VS. SOFTWARE: THE IIGS AND Y2K The IIgs clock is just fine for
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Y2K. However, if the particular
|
|
piece of software you have was written to use two digit rather than four
|
|
digit years, then you'll still have a Y2K problem. . .
|
|
|
|
-
|
|
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
|
|
Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
|
|
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
|
|
(RSUENAGA, 23624, GO COM A2)
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|
|
|
|
|
CONCENTRIC CUT LEAVES A2 USERS SCRAMBLING FOR ISPS Oh great. I'm never at
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" a loss for words, but
|
|
after receiving the following message from my brand new ISP...
|
|
|
|
"The Internet Gateway systems experienced a major systems failure on
|
|
Wednesday, June 16. These systems were soon to begin the phase-out
|
|
process, due to both Y2K issues of the underlying Operating System
|
|
(which is no longer supported by the vendor) and incompatibilities
|
|
with Concentric's upcoming dial network enhancements. Because of this,
|
|
we have made the decision to decommission the Internet Gateway shell at
|
|
this point."
|
|
|
|
Effective immediately, Shareware Solutions II is back home (temporarily?)
|
|
at good old crl.com
|
|
|
|
The web site is: http://www.crl.com/~joko
|
|
The e-mail address is: joko@crl.com
|
|
|
|
Joe Kohn
|
|
(JOE_KOHN, 23704, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
<<<<< You can read Usenet news with lynx. Just press the G key and enter
|
|
""""" the following URL: news:comp.sys.apple2 (or, substitute any
|
|
newsgroup after 'news:')
|
|
|
|
That said, from what I can tell, Delphi actually has a very good news feed.
|
|
However, for some reason here on Delphi, posting to Usenet newsgroups from
|
|
lynx is disabled. There is an actual newsreader here on Delphi; just type
|
|
INT after you log on, and that'll take you to Delphi's Internet gateway.
|
|
|
|
DejaNews, which just became deja.com, also provides web based access to
|
|
newsgroups.
|
|
|
|
Joe Kohn
|
|
http://www.crl.com/~joko
|
|
(JOE_KOHN, 23730, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
<<<<< Out of curiosity, have you ever compared the Primenet news feed to
|
|
""""" Delphi's or to DejaNews?
|
|
|
|
I know that crl only gets 5% or 10% of all news articles, because I've
|
|
compared the number of incoming news articles received in a 24 hour period
|
|
to both Delphi and DejaNews.
|
|
|
|
Before signing up for any new ISP, I'd like to know exactly how good the
|
|
news feed is.
|
|
|
|
Aside from that, does Primenet offer you both unix shell access AND PPP
|
|
access?
|
|
|
|
Joe
|
|
(JOE_KOHN, 23732, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> I don't do much with newsgroups. (Except when I need a laugh, and
|
|
""""" then you know which one I read.)
|
|
|
|
I do know that when I use tin, there are MANY new groups that have been
|
|
added.
|
|
|
|
"does Primenet offer you both unix shell access AND PPP access?"
|
|
|
|
YES!!
|
|
|
|
Cindy
|
|
(CINDYADAMS, 23734, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> This is the info for Primenet in Phoenix.
|
|
"""""
|
|
Voice: (602)416-6100
|
|
Fax: (602)416-9100
|
|
Data: (602)594-8000
|
|
Email: info@primenet.com
|
|
Email: support@primenet.com
|
|
|
|
Cindy
|
|
(CINDYADAMS, 23778, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> I suspect that while Concentric has the balls to stand up and
|
|
""""" 'blame' Y2K for a technical screw up, Genie on the other hand will
|
|
just sit there and continue to collect money from people until the people
|
|
notice there is no service and figure out a way to cancel the accts. The
|
|
Genie software may not be Y2K compliant, but it's not Y2K that's going to
|
|
kill it. It's those IDioTs at Yo-wreck-em Ripemoff Corporation that will
|
|
kill it.
|
|
|
|
Actually, they both have the same common problem. There is no one left that
|
|
knows how to do things. :)
|
|
|
|
Tony
|
|
(T_DIAZ, 23750, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
<<<<<< Jeff - Of course we can continue to access Concentric by using
|
|
""""" Marinetti to establish a PPP connection, but the small number of
|
|
Marinetti-aware software clients would limit what we could do once
|
|
connected:
|
|
|
|
With Spectrum or the Telnet app, we could telnet to Delphi.
|
|
With gw-ftp, we can download the files from our personal directories.
|
|
With ShepPing or gw-ping, we could send concentric some ping bombs ;-)
|
|
With gw-finger, we can (excuse my language) give people the finger.
|
|
With gsAIM, we can still chat with friends.
|
|
|
|
Without a Marinetti-aware e-mail client, we can't use an Apple II to read
|
|
e-mail. Without a Marinetti-ware newsreader, we can't read news (hmmm...
|
|
maybe that's a blessing in disguise).
|
|
|
|
I did find a lynx-friendly web site that'll retrieve e-mail that's sitting
|
|
in your concentric (or any other) e-mail box: www.mailstart.com
|
|
|
|
Since we can continue to access our concentric directory with ftp, I intend
|
|
to replace my index.html file and re-direct web surfers back to crl.com,
|
|
and I'm going to add a ".forward" file so that my e-mail gets forwarded to
|
|
crl (hopefully).
|
|
|
|
When I moved to concentric, I took a cautious approach. Fortunately, the
|
|
SSII web site on crl was never taken down and I hadn't yet canceled my crl
|
|
acct. But, using crl today, I was reminded why I wanted to leave them.
|
|
|
|
After going with two national ISPs, part of me feels like finding a local
|
|
Mom 'n Pop operation that offers unix shell access. Failing that, in my
|
|
poll of ISPs, Primenet did come in second as a recommended ISP for shell
|
|
access.
|
|
|
|
I dunno. I'm still in shock. I need some more time to decide what to do.
|
|
|
|
The best news in all this is that I asked Geoff Weiss if the Y2K excuse had
|
|
any validity, as I got scared that there might not be any unix shell
|
|
accounts available next year. He assured me that there are versions of unix
|
|
which are y2k-compliant, but sadly, he also said that from what he could
|
|
tell, the version of unix run by concentric _was_ fully y2k compliant.
|
|
|
|
Joe Kohn
|
|
(JOE_KOHN, 23731, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
MARINETTI/SPECTRUM/COG/PPP--BY THE NUMBERS Jeff - What follows may sound
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" complicated, but it's not.
|
|
Essentially, getting COG set up to dial Concentric (or any ISP), make a PPP
|
|
connection, and then to access Delphi is a three step process, where you
|
|
have to configure Marinetti, Spectrum 2.2 and COG 3.x settings. I'll leave
|
|
the detailed explanations up to Sir Ewen...
|
|
|
|
What you need to do is first set up Marinetti. For Link Layer, use PPP.
|
|
Enter the following IP addresses for Concentric: 206.173.119.72 and
|
|
207.155.183.72 (for other folks using other ISPs, just substitute your
|
|
ISPs' IP addresses).
|
|
|
|
Also, on that first screen, enter your login name and password. Click
|
|
Options, and on that screen, enter the phone number. You can probably also
|
|
enter the same Init String as you do with Spectrum.
|
|
|
|
One Marinetti is set up, it's probably best to test that it works. Click on
|
|
"Show Messages" so that you get visual feedback, then click Connect To
|
|
Network. Assuming that works and you get connected...
|
|
|
|
Run Spectrum 2.2. Under the Phone menu you'll see an item for Switch to
|
|
TCP/IP. Then click on Services, and enter Delphi, make sure the Telnet box
|
|
is checked off, and enter the address of delphi.com
|
|
|
|
Then run COG3. Under the Settings menu, you'll see Connect Method. Change
|
|
that to TCP/IP, and you should be all set up, unless I left out a step ;-)
|
|
|
|
Joe Kohn
|
|
http://www.crl.com/~joko
|
|
(JOE_KOHN, 23773, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> I think Joe has already given a good rough outline but I'll give
|
|
""""" you one as well just in case one of us misses something. By the
|
|
way, my ISP is PPP only so I must use Marinetti v2.0 with Spectrum v2.2 and
|
|
Crock O'Gold v3.1 to do my Delphi sessions everyday.
|
|
|
|
The first thing you need to do is get the software installed and configured
|
|
and make sure it works. Installing is easy and straight forward so I'll
|
|
just assume that you have already installed all three of the programs
|
|
above.
|
|
|
|
Marinetti
|
|
=========
|
|
|
|
To configure, open the Control Panel NDA and open the TCPIP CDEV. Click the
|
|
"Setup connection..." button. In the dialog that appears, enter the
|
|
username and password for your ISP account and enter the DNS IP addresses
|
|
that your ISP gave you in the appropriate boxes. You can set the checkboxes
|
|
as you desire. Select the Link Layer to use from the pop-up menu (you'll
|
|
most likely want to use PPP). Then click the "Configure..." button. On this
|
|
second dialog, select the port and port speed you want to use with the
|
|
pop-up menus, enter a modem initialization string (the same thing you use
|
|
in Spectrum will probably be fine here) and enter the phone number of your
|
|
ISP (if you have call waiting or need other special handling of dialing, be
|
|
sure to enter the extra "digits" ie. *70, turns off call waiting in my
|
|
area). Click the "Save" button then click the "OK" button to save your
|
|
settings.
|
|
|
|
Now that it is set up, you can try to connect to your ISP by clicking the
|
|
"Connect to network" button. If you don't get any errors and your modem
|
|
stays online, possibly with the occasional flash of the RD and TD lights,
|
|
you should be set.
|
|
|
|
Spectrum
|
|
========
|
|
|
|
Spectrum already comes with everything you should need to actually use a
|
|
TCP/IP connection. If you want to test the connection you made above, start
|
|
Spectrum and, depending on whether you've changed any settings or not, do
|
|
one of the following:
|
|
|
|
1) If there is a menu in the menu bar titled "Phone" then use the
|
|
mouse to select that menu, drag down to the "Switch to TCP/IP"
|
|
menu item and release the mouse.
|
|
2) Select the "Services" menu item from the TCP/IP menu.
|
|
3) You can change the checkboxes at the bottom of this dialog if
|
|
you wish but they don't really need to be changed. I usually
|
|
leave the Telnet check box checked and uncheck the Connect
|
|
Messages and Switch Messages check boxes. (The Telnet
|
|
checkbox state is the one area I noticed where Joe's and my
|
|
description differ.)
|
|
4) Double click the Delphi entry in the list box. If you aren't
|
|
connected to your ISP at this point (you didn't hang up after
|
|
the Marinetti set up did you? :) Spectrum will connect you
|
|
to your ISP and open a connection to Delphi.
|
|
5) If you get a "Username:" prompt and you can log in without any
|
|
problems, then everything is fine for working with COG v3.1.
|
|
|
|
Crock O'Gold
|
|
============
|
|
|
|
Select the "Access Settings..." menu item from the Options/Settings menu
|
|
and fill in the phone number (not used with a TCP/IP connection but it
|
|
still needs to be entered), Delphi username and Delphi password and the
|
|
Billing charge (per minute; 0 is a valid entry) then click the "OK" button.
|
|
|
|
Next select the "Connect Method..." menu item from the Options/Settings
|
|
menu and select the "TCP/IP using Marinetti" radio button then click the
|
|
"OK" button.
|
|
|
|
NOTE: This is just what needs to be done to get COG to work with a
|
|
Marinetti connection! You will still need to configure your Main and
|
|
Alternate forums, session actions, transfer protocol and more.
|
|
|
|
Summary
|
|
=======
|
|
|
|
This is probably a little more than a "rough outline" as you requested but
|
|
once I got started I couldn't stop myself. Besides, this will most likely
|
|
be useful to others not to mention that it almost guarantees inclusion in
|
|
The Lamp! :)
|
|
|
|
As an added note, a telnet session to Delphi using Spectrum makes a nice
|
|
way to participate in conferences (real time chats). Unfortunately, file
|
|
transfer speeds suffer on a telnet session due to a number of factors.
|
|
|
|
Jeff Blakeney | Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro |
|
|
--------------+----------------------------------------------------+
|
|
sent via | HyperCard IIgs Course | GSoft BASIC Course |
|
|
COG v3.1 | now in session | now in session |
|
|
(JBLAKENEY, 23793, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
BOTMAN FOREVER The Bot is Back!
|
|
""""""""""""""
|
|
Apparently, there had been some type of temporary "glitch" on Genie that
|
|
prevented the SimulBot from operating properly, but whatever problem there
|
|
was, appears now to be fixed.
|
|
|
|
Rather than waiting until Monday night to find out, I just conducted a test
|
|
run of the Bot with Pat Kern and Cindy Adams, and that brief test run
|
|
proved to be a success.
|
|
|
|
I'm certainly relieved, and want to extend some thanks:
|
|
|
|
- Thanks, Pat and Cindy, for taking part in the test run.
|
|
- Thanks, Dave Miller, for the Bot and the behind-the-scenes help.
|
|
- Thanks, Sheppy, for once again taming the SimulBot Computer.
|
|
- Thanks, Tony Diaz, for pumping up the RAM in the SimulBot computer.
|
|
- Thanks, Jerry Cline of InTrec, for contributing a copy of ProTerm.
|
|
|
|
Hopefully, all will still be routine next Monday night at 10 PM EDT.
|
|
|
|
For those who aren't familiar with the multi-system chat...
|
|
|
|
Each Monday night, the chat room here on Delphi's A2 is magically linked
|
|
together with the Apple II chat room on Genie. So, Apple II users on both
|
|
systems can chat in real time.
|
|
|
|
If you've never attended one of these multi-system chats, please do. They
|
|
take place every Monday at 10 PM EDT. Just look for the crowded chat room,
|
|
and that's where we'll be. Hopefully ;-)
|
|
|
|
Joe
|
|
(JOE_KOHN, 23903, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
SIS 1.1 IMPRESSES Whoa!! Wow! WOW!!
|
|
"""""""""""""""""
|
|
Something truly wonderful has just happened, and I don't know that I've
|
|
ever been so impressed with any IIGS software as I am now. I'm not only
|
|
impressed; I'm ecstatic. Actually, I'm completely blown away!
|
|
|
|
What Sir Bennett, Sir Wannop and Sir Weiss have accomplished is simply
|
|
unbelievable!! The Marinetti-aware application that everyone has been
|
|
waiting for has just started to arrive in people's mailboxes this past
|
|
week, and the IIGS world will never be quite the same again.
|
|
|
|
You too can be impressed! You too can experience the joy and ecstasy! How?
|
|
|
|
It's simple! It's easy! Just set up Spectrum Internet Suite 1.1 to make a
|
|
TCP/IP connection under Spectrum 2.2, and then run SIS v1.1 from Delphi!
|
|
|
|
The difference between running SIS under a dial up shell account vs running
|
|
it after establishing a TCP/IP connection under Marinetti is like night and
|
|
day!
|
|
|
|
But, that's not all; you can be doubly impressed!! After you're done with
|
|
that first SIS v1.1 session, set up COG 3.1 to connect to Delphi via
|
|
TCP/IP! You just won't believe it!
|
|
|
|
If you've been putting off getting an ISP that offers PPP access in
|
|
addition to offering a Unix Shell account, don't wait any longer! There's
|
|
never been a more compelling reason to make the switch to TCP/IP!
|
|
|
|
Well, after using Spectrum for years and years, I have some re-configuring
|
|
to do today. I'm off to re-read that section of the SIS v1.1 documentation
|
|
that describes how to completely automate the process, so that one mouse
|
|
click is all it takes to be "surfing the web" from the comfort of an error
|
|
correcting TCP/IP protocol on Delphi.
|
|
|
|
This can't be. I must still be dreaming ;-)
|
|
|
|
For more info on Spectrum/SIS, visit: http://www.myesource.com/sevenhills
|
|
For more info on Marinetti, visit: http://www.apple2.org/marinetti
|
|
|
|
Joe Kohn
|
|
http://www.crl.com/~joko
|
|
(JOE_KOHN, 23937, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
. . . AND SIS 1.1 ISSUES Be aware that some web pages can be very large
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""" and complex, and can consume large amounts of
|
|
IIgs memory as they are displayed! Although the Browser XDisplay used by
|
|
SIS tries to handle out of memory problems as best it can, the TextEdit
|
|
Tool has inherent memory bugs. So if memory is tight when you run SIS, the
|
|
TextEdit Tool can easily lock up your IIgs, as it tries to display these
|
|
complex pages.
|
|
|
|
If you intend to do a great deal of surfing with SIS, I would suggest
|
|
shift-booting Spectrum, or if you are using a Marinetti connection,
|
|
ShiftyList booting (with Sheppy's excellent utility). This way you will
|
|
have the minimum memory consumed by the system. Finally cut the size of
|
|
your Capture and Scrollback buffers in Spectrum as low as you can. These
|
|
steps should give you as much free memory as possible for SIS and TextEdit
|
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to work under.
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Alternatively, if you have access to one of those PowerMac IIgs
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peripherals, you can run Bernie with 14Mb of IIgs RAM. SIS works just fine
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with 14Mb to play with! :)
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Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Sun 27 Jun 1999 - 24 days till KFest '99
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Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.0
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Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
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http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
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(EWANNOP, 23960, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> Are you sure you are actually connecting to Delphi? The reason I
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|
""""" ask is that during the beta testing of Spectrum 2.2, I consistently
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was unable to connect to Delphi. The problem was apparently caused by
|
|
something about the ISP I was using at the time, and as I recall, the
|
|
message you cite is the one that appears if you try to telnet to a service
|
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and it can't connect. There were a couple of things that I tried that
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|
helped:
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1) Use the Marinetti CDev to establish a connection, then launch Spectrum,
|
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and then try to connect to Delphi using the pre-configured Delphi telnet
|
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option. This helped sometimes.
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2) Set up a 'service' for Delphi that uses the IP address rather than the
|
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domain name. You can try 199.93.4.65, but when I called Delphi customer
|
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service about a related problem, the tech I talked to suggested using
|
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199.93.4.2 or 199.93.4.4 instead, since these are the IP addresses of
|
|
specific machines rather than the .65 number, which is a router. I have
|
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tried this (the different IP addresses), with mixed success, but using
|
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an IP address rather than 'delphi.com' was definitely more reliable.
|
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YMMV
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3) Try a different ISP. That worked for me.
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Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth)
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Woofed to you by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm via Bernie ][ the Rescue!
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(DZAHNISER, 23967, GO COM A2)
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FROM THE FOUNDING FATHER Over the years, I've received a lot of really
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"""""""""""""""""""""""" nice comments and compliments about my work with
|
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the Apple II, but I think the following forwarded e-mail contains the
|
|
ultimate endorsement ;-)
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(I snipped out the actual questions, but included the quoted back part that
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shows where the person heard about me.)
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"On 6/28/99 1:48 PM, Steve Wozniak (steve@woz.org) wrote:
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> Now, here's the question. Where's a good place to go for support of
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> these old, yet wonderful, machines? I do buy quite a few items off
|
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> eBay, but I'm certain there still must be users groups and such out
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> there.
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Ethan,
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There are many Apple II support areas (and users!) on the web and
|
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worldwide. In fact, there's an Apple II conference called KansasFest
|
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being held this July, with new products and sessions on how to use the
|
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Apple II.
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The best person to talk to for a support group listing would be Joe
|
|
Kohn. He can be reached at joko@crl.com. You can also find many Apple
|
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II resources on the web at http://www.apple2.org.
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(JOE_KOHN, 24037, GO COM A2)
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MARINETTI MUSINGS Since I'm not a programmer, I have no idea how much
|
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""""""""""""""""" more difficult it would be to implement, so this is
|
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wishful thinking, but..
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I wish that all future Marinetti-aware apps were NDAs.
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Wouldn't it be amazing to attend a multi-system chat, have a gsAIM
|
|
conversation going on at the same time (which is now do-able since gsAIM is
|
|
an NDA) and during a lull in the conversation, to read or write e-mail?
|
|
|
|
Heck...since I'm sharing my wishes, what I'd really love to see are some
|
|
Marinetti-aware multi-player NDA games. Poker anyone?
|
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Joe
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(JOE_KOHN, 24051, GO COM A2)
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|
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>>>>> I have several Marinetti-aware apps either in development or in the
|
|
""""" planning stages, and most of them will be NDAs (those that aren't
|
|
NDAs only provide networking as a secondary feature).
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|
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I'd pay real money for a good NDA email program, f'rinstance. But that's
|
|
not on my list; there are others doing email programs already and I won't
|
|
step on any toes.
|
|
|
|
I would love to do some Marinetti games. Marinetti has opened up a lot of
|
|
possibilities for exciting new software, it's just a matter of finding the
|
|
time to do them (and waiting for a few Marinetti quirks to be polished away
|
|
:).
|
|
|
|
---
|
|
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
|
|
sheppy@sheppyware.net
|
|
http://www.sheppyware.net
|
|
(SHEPPY, 24051, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
<<<<< As I'm sure you know Sheppy, but maybe the rest don't, Marinetti
|
|
""""" 2.0.1 was released the other day and can be found at
|
|
http://www.apple2.org/marinetti
|
|
|
|
In any case, I'm thrilled that gsAIM can be used while playing GShisen,
|
|
errr, I mean while doing useful online research with Spectrum, and I look
|
|
forward to any other Marinetti apps you plan to develop.
|
|
|
|
I agree; it'd be great to have an NDA e-mail program that worked with
|
|
Marinetti. Then again, a multi-player poker game in a Marinetti-aware NDA
|
|
would be absolutely stupendous! ;-)
|
|
|
|
Joe
|
|
(JOE_KOHN, 24061, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> I find that Kermit is the most reliable method for file transfers
|
|
""""" using TCP/IP under Spectrum, but as Delphi does not support full
|
|
Kermit streaming, the transfer rate is only about 300 cps.
|
|
|
|
This is Delphi's limitation, not that of the Spectrum Kermit, as I have
|
|
proved to myself while writing the Kermit module, that a full streaming
|
|
Kermit transfer can be as fast if not faster than Zmodem.
|
|
|
|
Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Mon 21 Jun 1999 - 30 days till KFest '99
|
|
Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.0
|
|
Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
|
|
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
|
|
(EWANNOP, 23801, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
PARALLEL VERSUS SERIAL: A REFRESHER In the vast majority of cases,
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" parallel cards were used to interface
|
|
with printers. Before the Macintosh, nearly every printer in the personal
|
|
computing world used a parallel interface. Apart from Apple products, that
|
|
remains true today.
|
|
|
|
My Apple IIgs' serial printer port goes unused. The GS has a parallel
|
|
interface card installed that connects to a Panasonic printer, which cost a
|
|
quarter of the price of an equivalent Apple printer and has better print
|
|
quality to boot.
|
|
|
|
TomZ
|
|
(TOMZUSKI, 23933, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
A2 REVIEWS PIRATES OF SILICON VALLEY I haven't yet seen that movie, but I
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" heard it was well done. I'll have to
|
|
check it out.
|
|
|
|
It always bemuses me to see the news media portray Jobs as a technical
|
|
genius. He always was a technical zero. But Apple Corp. would not exist
|
|
today if Jobs hadn't been there to prod Woz along. Jobs genius has always
|
|
been his ability to motivate people to pursue his vision. I believe that
|
|
people at Apple call it his "reality distortion field". But it works, and
|
|
he is =very= good at it. Apple's only chance for survival lies with Jobs
|
|
skills, and I say that as someone who has always disliked the guy.
|
|
|
|
If you liked "Pirates of Silicon valley", there is another show that you
|
|
should watch for. It was a PBS presentation called "Triumph of the Nerds"
|
|
that did a simply masterful presentation of the early days of personal
|
|
computing, Microsoft, and Apple.
|
|
|
|
TomZ
|
|
(TOMZUSKI, 23932, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> The interesting thing for me is that WOZ said it was accurate.
|
|
""""" There are details that are wrong (especially, according to Woz, the
|
|
sequence about "stealing" the Mac OS from Xerox PARC), but the
|
|
personalities of the players are accurately captured, and the events
|
|
pictured happened pretty much the way they are portrayed.
|
|
|
|
Gary R. Utter
|
|
(UTTER, 23956, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
JUICED DELIVERS, THEN RETREATS GreetinGS!
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
The June '99 issue of Juiced.GS (Volume 4, Issue 2) should begin arriving
|
|
in subscriber mail boxes this weekend. All U.S. copies and a few foreign
|
|
copies were delivered to the post office on Wednesday morning, and the
|
|
remaining overseas mailings were completed on Thursday.
|
|
|
|
I will follow up with an index in the next few days, then the Juiced.GS
|
|
Intergalactic Headquarters will be shut down between June 30 and July 7 for
|
|
vacation.
|
|
|
|
Max Jones
|
|
Juiced.GS
|
|
http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs
|
|
(JUICEDGS, 23882, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
<<<<< Now that Sheppy's copy of Juiced.GS has arrived, I can breathe
|
|
""""" easier and finish preparations for my vacation. :-)
|
|
|
|
This is my last pass through A2 before leaving for the west coast. I doubt
|
|
I'll be online again until July 8, but there's always a chance I might be
|
|
able to stop by a time or two. Depends on if there is a computer available
|
|
where I'm going. We'll see ....
|
|
|
|
See you in a week!
|
|
|
|
Apple II Forever!!
|
|
|
|
Max Jones
|
|
Juiced.GS
|
|
http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs
|
|
(JUICEDGS, 24042, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
HARDWARE HANDSHAKING MODEM CABLES FOR GS AND MAC: THE SAME? I'm pretty
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" much sure,
|
|
the IIGS and the Mac use differently wired hw handshake cables. Once I
|
|
tried PTA2 and ANSITerm with a Supra 33.6 and a Zoom and had ugly problems
|
|
with both until I got from my Apple dealer a different hardware handshake
|
|
cable, he IIRC called Hayes cable (to distinguish it from the other cables
|
|
shipped with the Mac modem packages by default).
|
|
|
|
Best regards, Ulrich
|
|
|
|
[ Delivered by ProTERM Message Manager (PTMM) v2.5.3 ]
|
|
(UHAUSMANN, 23991, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> Not quite right.
|
|
"""""
|
|
What most vendors sell as a "hardware handshaking" cable for the Mac is NOT
|
|
a proper hardware handshaking cable. The Mac is primarily interested in the
|
|
signal on one pin (I don't remember which one and don't feel like looking
|
|
it up) and if that pin is properly wired, the Mac treats it as a hardware
|
|
handshaking cable MOST of the time. Certain settings (and again I don't
|
|
feel like looking it up :) will cause a failure with these cables.
|
|
|
|
A PROPER hardware handshaking cable, as described in the Spectrum and
|
|
ProTerm manuals, will work very nicely with a Mac as well as with a IIgs.
|
|
|
|
I can't understand why vendors bother to "cheat" on this stuff, as it seems
|
|
no more expensive to wire such a cable properly. (sigh)
|
|
|
|
Gary R. Utter
|
|
(UTTER, 24003, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> I have never had any problems over many, many years, using the same
|
|
""""" modem cable on both my Mac and the IIgs. I have two cables to
|
|
choose from, and both work just fine for handshaking.
|
|
|
|
This is not to say of course that there are not different cables out there.
|
|
Spectrum and Proterm usually manage fine with the same cable, but ANSITerm
|
|
requires a slightly different wiring. This is why we printed a pin
|
|
connection for a suitable cable in the Spectrum manual, so users could
|
|
check their own cables conformed.
|
|
|
|
Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 29 Jun 1999 - 22 days till KFest '99
|
|
Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.0
|
|
Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
|
|
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
|
|
(EWANNOP, 24022, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> For most IIgs comm programs, the Mac and IIgs use the same init
|
|
""""" strings and the same hardware handshaking cable. Proterm and
|
|
Spectrum work with modem just like every Mac communication program I am
|
|
aware of (which includes SLIP and PPP for the Mac). Only ANSITerm on the
|
|
IIgs was written to be different which means it has a unique set of init
|
|
strings--these can not be used by any other IIgs/Mac comm program. ANSITerm
|
|
can best be summed up as being non-standard.
|
|
|
|
But, there are two different ways to wire a hardware handshaking cable for
|
|
the IIgs and Mac. Spectrum provides drivers for both type of cables. The
|
|
default Spectrum port driver uses the _standard_ Mac/IIgs hardware
|
|
handshaking cable. I'm not aware if any other IIgs or Mac comm program
|
|
being this flexible.
|
|
|
|
Geoff
|
|
(SISGEOFF, 23996, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RUMOR MILL
|
|
""""""""""
|
|
|
|
SECURE SIS? SIS doesn't support TCP/IP connections so it can't do SSL.
|
|
""""""""""" The IIgs is also too slow to realistically use SSL (my Sparc
|
|
5 which is several hundred times faster than a IIgs and several thousand
|
|
times faster with floating point math really slows down to a crawl dealing
|
|
with the transfer of secure documents).
|
|
|
|
So if someone else writes a working set of TCP/IP routines for SIS and also
|
|
writes a SSL v3 toolset for the IIgs, I'll incorporate that technology to
|
|
SIS. There is no way in heck that I would do all of that alone. So no, this
|
|
isn't difficult to me since I don't have to do any of the hard work :) I
|
|
also wouldn't actually use it on a IIgs since it would be painfully slow so
|
|
I would need beta testers to use tools like GSBug to figure out where there
|
|
might be problems.
|
|
|
|
Out of these issues, only the first one might actually get solved. There
|
|
aren't enough IIgs developers left to even attempt to get SSL working on a
|
|
IIgs.
|
|
|
|
Geoff
|
|
(SISGEOFF, 23818, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
TALK IS CHEAP: FREEWARE, OR NOT? _Talk is Cheap_, aka _TIC_, is a very
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" nice piece of software, but going by my
|
|
recollection, it was not released as freeware. The -source- was released as
|
|
restricted, copyrighted but publicly available, looking something like open
|
|
source, but the program itself wasn't.
|
|
|
|
-
|
|
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
|
|
Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
|
|
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
|
|
(RSUENAGA, 23930, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
PUBLIC POSTINGS
|
|
"""""""""""""""
|
|
|
|
OLRIGHT! A NEW VERSION
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANSITerm Lovers - Announcement !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
|
|
OLRight! version 4.0 has been uploaded to the A2 database.
|
|
|
|
OLRight! is an off-line reader (OLR) executed entirely within ANSITerm,
|
|
using ANSITerm's scripting language to automate on-line activities and to
|
|
give you an off-line environment for reading messages and mail, and setting
|
|
up what is to happen when you are online.
|
|
|
|
Look for a summary of features in a follow-up message.
|
|
|
|
Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth)
|
|
Woofed to you by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm via Bernie ][ the Rescue!
|
|
(DZAHNISER, 23497, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
<<<<<
|
|
"""""
|
|
**************************** OLRight! V4.0 ****************************9
|
|
|
|
OLRight! is an Off-Line Reader (OLR) for Delphi, executed within ANSITerm,
|
|
the Apple IIGS terminal software from Parkhurst Micro Products. OLRight!
|
|
automates many of the functions that you would normally perform manually on
|
|
the 'text side' of Delphi, and provides you with an environment to set up
|
|
automated activities on Delphi and to read or otherwise manage the results.
|
|
|
|
*** Delphi Access ***
|
|
|
|
OLRight! supports connection to Delphi via SprintNet, direct dial to
|
|
Delphi's Boston number, telnet from an ISP, or by any means through which
|
|
you can create your own custom script. Setup of telnet access is done
|
|
through a script-builder that supports multiple logins, multiple prompts,
|
|
and several different ways of issuing the telnet commands.
|
|
|
|
You can have two different access methods defined, and switch between them
|
|
as the dial script begins. OLRight! will automatically redial up to 10
|
|
times (or use a number you set) to accommodate busy signals or other
|
|
dial-up failures.
|
|
|
|
*** User Interface ***
|
|
|
|
OLRight! uses a menu bar with drop-down menus; each menu and menu command
|
|
is activated by a single keystroke. Most of ANSITerm's features and
|
|
utilities are accessible through the menus, or directly by using their
|
|
ANSITerm Command-keystrokes. Besides the regular menus, there is a special
|
|
'apple' menu that lists any of your custom scripts, selectable by number,
|
|
that you have put in a designated user directory.
|
|
|
|
There are three reader utilities available within OLRight! - The mail
|
|
reader, the forum message reader, and a generic text file reader that is
|
|
used for reading log files, and various other data files produced during
|
|
the on-line activities. You also have access to ANSITerm's editor and file
|
|
viewer through the menus.
|
|
|
|
A Help menu, working through the text reader, gives you access to detailed
|
|
documentation for OLRight!
|
|
|
|
*** Mail ***
|
|
|
|
OLRight! supports sending mail messages and text (or text-encoded) files to
|
|
any mail address, or Binary files to Delphi addresses only. The mail
|
|
routines provide 'smart' addressing, automatically adding Delphi's custom
|
|
address formatting to Internet addresses. Multiple To: and CC: addresses
|
|
are supported (up to 127 characters each). You also have a
|
|
user-configurable 'address book' that can hold up to 32 names and email
|
|
addresses.
|
|
|
|
Your mail is received and split into an index and individual mail files.
|
|
Internet address headers are stripped for reading convenience. You can
|
|
browse through your mail using the index, picking notes at random, or you
|
|
can read messages sequentially without using the index. When you reply to
|
|
or forward a mail message, the address(es) and subject of the message are
|
|
extracted, plus you have all the features of the regular mail addressing
|
|
routines. You can include the text of the original message in your note,
|
|
using the characters you define in ANSITerm's editor preferences for
|
|
quoting the text.
|
|
|
|
As you read your mail, you can print, archive and/or delete individual
|
|
messages. You can specify the file name for each archived note, or collect
|
|
messages by appending to an archive file. When you have deleted messages,
|
|
you can refresh the index file whenever you like, or when you stop reading
|
|
mail.
|
|
|
|
OLRight! marks each newly received file as 'new'. When you start up the
|
|
mail reader, you can skip past the mail you have read, and go directly to
|
|
the new mail. The new mail flag is removed when you refresh your mail list.
|
|
|
|
*** Forums ***
|
|
|
|
OLRight! retrieves messages from each Delphi forum that you specify, and
|
|
once offline, splits the messages into an index file and individual
|
|
messages. You can browse through your messages randomly using the index, or
|
|
read messages sequentially without using the index. Messages addressed
|
|
directly to you are highlighted in both the index and the header of the
|
|
message itself. When you reply to a message, you can address it to the
|
|
originator of that message, a different individual, or 'all'. You have the
|
|
option of including the text of the message in your reply, using the
|
|
quoting characters you define in ANSITerm's editor preferences.
|
|
|
|
You can print or archive individual forum messages, and address mail to the
|
|
author of the message you are reading. Forum messages are managed by
|
|
deleting all messages currently in the reader. You can, however, keep large
|
|
blocks of messages in the reader. OLRight! uses a random-access file
|
|
reading routine to access the messages, and your current message is marked
|
|
when you reply, print, mail, or quit from the reader. The next time you
|
|
start the reader, you are automatically prompted whether to start at the
|
|
marked note.
|
|
|
|
OLRight! has powerful on-line search functions that let you find and read
|
|
forum messages by date range, subject, author, addressee and message number
|
|
range. You can also set your high message markers, read specific message
|
|
numbers, or create a search using your own commands. You can retrieve a
|
|
list of the topics for a forum. You can also set and clear (activate and
|
|
deactivate) topics within a forum, or filter out messages with specific
|
|
subject text.
|
|
|
|
*** Conferences ***
|
|
|
|
As you enter each Forum, OLRight! displays a list of users currently online
|
|
and in conference. There is a brief pause before Forum activities resume,
|
|
during which you can hit a key to immediately go to the conference area.
|
|
|
|
You can visit conferences currently in session or start your own. You can
|
|
set up a default nickname (by Forum) to be used while in conference, or set
|
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a nickname each time you join. Your conference sessions are saved to a log
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file for later reading.
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*** Databases ***
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You can retrieve database topics, perform database searches to find files
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that you want to download, and download files from databases using any
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binary file transfer protocol supported by ANSITerm. Binary II wrappers are
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stripped from files if you specify a compatible protocol.
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You can upload files to databases, using a different file transfer protocol
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than that used for downloads, if you choose. OLRight! helps you to prepare
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the upload, prompting you for all essential information, and providing a
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line editor to prepare the description of the file.
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Database searches and sessions are received into a log for later reading.
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*** Online Functions ***
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You can interrupt your online session between Forums, go to the main menu,
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and restart Forum or mail activities thereafter. From the main menu, you
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have access to an 'Online' menu, which gives you quick access to terminal
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mode for manual activities, and Delphi's Lynx, FTP, and Navigator
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applications.
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*** Customization and Flexibility ***
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OLRight! has the capability to alter what activities are to be performed.
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You can choose to transmit only, receive only, skip mail, select which
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forums to visit (or not visit forums at all), and add/delete/edit pending
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activities from special setup menus.
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Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth)
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Woofed to you by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm via Bernie ][ the Rescue!
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(DZAHNISER, 23498, GO COM A2)
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MORE ON SWEET 16 Sweet16, the premier Apple IIgs emulator for BeOS
|
|
"""""""""""""""" systems, has been released! Run your favorite Apple IIgs
|
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software on a BeOS system (BeOS Release 4 or later and a compatible PowerPC
|
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or Intel system required), way faster than you ever have before!
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This version fixes a huge number of bugs, and adds a few nice new features.
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Please visit {<http://www.sheppyware.net/software/sweet16_be/>
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http://www.sheppyware.net/software/sweet16_be/} for specific information
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and to download the software.
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Sweet16 is $15 shareware and can be registered at
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{<http://order.kagi.com/?QGC> http://order.kagi.com/?QGC.} Please note that
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Sweet16 is copyright 1998-1999, F.E. Systems and is developed and
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distributed under license.
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---
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Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
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sheppy@sheppyware.net
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http://www.sheppyware.net
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(SHEPPY, 24048, GO COM A2)
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PAT PICKS KFEST PIX
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"""""""""""""""""""
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KFEST GRAPHICS ALERT!
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=====================
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Who would be interested in the following
|
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awesome collection of Kfest graphics
|
|
if they were available on a
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Kfest Stuff #1
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--->>> CD Rom <<<---
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at a nominal cost to cover the expenses of production?
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There's about 135 megs total.
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C O N T E N T S
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KfestStuff#1 CD
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Kfest 94 JPGs 106 files 4.15 MG > All edited, cropped, resized,
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Kfest 95 JPGs 199 files 6.12 MB > retouched, cleaned up
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Kfest 96 JPGs 307 files 9.82 MB > and/or
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Kfest 97 JPGs 410 files 19.90 MB > "embellished"
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Kfest 98 JPGs 340 files 10.90 MB > by Patz Pix
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Yearbook 95 Keepsakes of Kfest 36 files 1009x1320 JPGs 20.9 MG
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Prints out to 36 pages of photos and text or can be viewed on the monitor.
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Yearbook 96 Keepsakes of Kfest 28 files 1009x1320 JPGs 18.7 MG
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Prints out to 28 pages of photos and text or can be viewed on the monitor.
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Yearbook 97 Keepsakes of Kfest 24 files 1009x1320 JPGs 16.2 MG
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Prints out to 24 pages of photos and text or can be viewed on the monitor.
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KeepCvr.jpg Cover Keepsakes of Kfest 1009x1320 JPG
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To print out or view.
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95 Logo JPGs 35 files 1.33 MG
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96 Logo JPGs 27 files 1.14 MG
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97 Logo JPGs 29 files 1.42 MG
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98 Logo JPGs 36 files 1.41 MG
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99 Logo JPGs 60 files 2.31 MG These are the ones on the Kfest Web page.
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More Kfest Stuff JPGs 26 files 985 KB Mostly JPGs, a few GIFs.
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A2 User Pics 11 jpgs. 248 KB
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Animated GIFs 34 files 15.1 MG
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Kansas City MIDI Music file 53.8 KB
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Masterpiece MIDI Music file 7.9 KB
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Genie Ad WAV Sound file 1.23 MG
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Tape1.exe 914 KB
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Video only runs on PCs, I think.
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Pat Kern
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<You can never be too rich or have too many graphics>.
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(PATZ_PIX, 24006, GO COM A2)
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LAST CALL: KFEST 99 There is still time to register for KFest '99. Here
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""""""""""""""""""" is the registration information and form.
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|
______ _____
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( ) ( ) ____________________________________________
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| | / / ( _____________________________'99____)
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| | / / | |
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| |/ / | | II Infinitum!!
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| / | |______
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| |\ \ | _______) __________ ________ ________
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| | \ \ | | ( _____) ( ___) (__ __)
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| | \ \ | | | |__ \ \ | |
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| | \ \ | | | __) \ \ | |
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| | \ \ | | | |_____ ___\ \ | |
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(______) (________) (_______) (__________) (_________) |___|
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Experience The Magic!!
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When: July 21-25, 1999
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Where: Avila College, Kansas City, Missouri
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+++
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KFest is back ... and it's never been more affordable!
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Check out these rates, which include room and meals from Wednesday evening
|
|
(dinner) on July 21, through Sunday morning (breakfast) on July 25.
|
|
(Saturday evening dinner not included. That's Kfesters' Night Out On The
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|
Town!)
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+++ Regular Attendee rates (if you register AFTER April 15) +++
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Double room: $275
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Single room: $325
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Spouse rate (in case you want to bring that special person along): $225
|
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Registration only (no dorm room or meals): $225
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Those cool Kfest T-shirts will also be available again this year for $15,
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but ONLY if you order in advance. (See registration form below.)
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+++ Special Early Arrivals rate +++
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For the very first time, Kfest will start early for those who'd like to
|
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arrive a little sooner. Avila dorms will be available for occupancy on
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Tuesday night for a small extra fee. No formal activities will be planned,
|
|
although the day may include the annual trek to KC Masterpiece Restaurant
|
|
for some of that world-famous Kansas City barbecue!
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The rate for early arrivals (Tuesday night dorm room only):
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Double room: $25
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Single room: $33
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For attendees planning to arrive at the normal time on Wednesday, check-in
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|
will be on from 1-4 pm. Check-out will be from 11 am-1 pm on Sunday.
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|
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|
Current plans call for formal Kfest sessions to begin with dinner in the
|
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Avila cafeteria on Wednesday evening (time to be announced), followed by
|
|
the traditional opening event, the Kfest Keynote Address. We've got some
|
|
great plans for that opening night activity. Stay tuned!!
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|
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|
Computer sessions will be conducted on Thursday and Friday. Software and
|
|
hardware demos are scheduled for Saturday morning, with a vendor fair
|
|
slated for Saturday afternoon.
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|
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|
Reminder: Meals included in the registration price are Wednesday dinner
|
|
through Sunday breakfast, with the exception of Saturday dinner.
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|
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|
On Saturday night, attendees can dine on their own at one of the many fine
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|
restaurants near the Avila campus, or join groups of Kfesters at Jess &
|
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Jim's Steak House or other local favorites.
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|
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All children under 18 years must be accompanied by a parent or legal
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guardian.
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|
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|
***
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|
|
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KFest this year is again being sponsored by InTrec Software, Inc., makers
|
|
of ProTERM telecommunications software for the Apple II and Macintosh.
|
|
|
|
If you have questions about KFest, or wish to make suggestions, you can
|
|
find answers via the Internet. Just send an email message to:
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kfest-help@kfest.org
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|
|
|
. or visit the Kfest World Wide Web page at:
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|
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http://www.kfest.org
|
|
|
|
If you're thinking about attending Kfest '99, please join the Kfest
|
|
internet e-mail chat:
|
|
|
|
To subscribe to the Kfest Information Mailing List, send email to
|
|
majordomo@kfest.org. In the BODY of the message, place the following text:
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|
|
|
subscribe kfest
|
|
|
|
You will receive a confirmation email. In order to be signed up for the
|
|
list, you will have to respond to this confirmation as the instructions
|
|
dictate. You will then be able send and read messages on the mailing list.
|
|
(CINDYADAMS, 23504, GO COM A2)
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|
|
|
<<<<<
|
|
"""""
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|
---[ The Form ]------------[ Cut Here ]----------[ Print Clearly ]---
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KFest '99 Registration Form
|
|
|
|
View and print this document using 9-point Monaco font (ProTERM default) or
|
|
any other monospaced font such as Courier, CoPilot or Spectrum.
|
|
|
|
Register for Kfest '99
|
|
By phone, fax or email: Credit card number
|
|
<> Complete this form and select one option:
|
|
Send this form via email to: <kfest@intrec.com>
|
|
Call the InTrec sales office: 602/992-5515
|
|
Fax this form: 602/992-0232
|
|
|
|
<> By postal mail: Credit card, check or money order.
|
|
Print, fill out, and mail this form with payment.
|
|
|
|
Checks and money orders must be on a USA bank and USA compatible funds.
|
|
|
|
Registration Cost Check Applicable
|
|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
|
|
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Regular rates (after April 15 and at the door)
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Double room $275 [ ]
|
|
Single room $325 [ ]
|
|
Spouse only $225 [ ]
|
|
Conference only $225 [ ]
|
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|
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Early Arrival rates
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Double $25 [ ]
|
|
Single $33 [ ]
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T-Shirts $15 ea
|
|
|
|
May we send your Kfest registration confirmation via email? [ ]Yes [ ]No
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|
|
|
If NO, how can we contact you for
|
|
confirmation?:__________________________
|
|
|
|
__________________________________________________________________________
|
|
|
|
Roommate preference:
|
|
_____________________________________________________
|
|
|
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Prefer a smoker/non-smoker. Check one: [ ] Smoke [ ] Non-smoke
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|
|
|
Kfest Softwear: Order a memorable collectible Kfest '99 T-Shirt? $15 ea
|
|
Quantity: [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
|
|
Size: SML MED LRG XLRG 2XLRG 3XLRG
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|
|
|
Today's Date: ________/_________/_________
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|
|
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1- Registration fee (see above dates & fees) ......... ______________
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|
|
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2- Registration fee for spouse if applicable ......... ______________
|
|
|
|
3- T-Shirts Quantity [ ] @ $15.00 ea) ............. ______________
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4- Sub-total of lines 1-3: ........................... ______________
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5- Arizona residents only add .068% tax: . ........... ______________
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6- Total cost (total of lines 4-5): .................. ______________
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|
|
|
Discover, Visa, Mastercard or American Express accepted.
|
|
Checks & money orders must be payable to InTrec Software, and must
|
|
be in US dollars from a US bank.
|
|
|
|
_______________________________ ____________________________________
|
|
First Name Last Name
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|
|
|
______________________________________________________________________
|
|
Organization (if applicable to Kfest)
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______________________________________________________________________
|
|
Shipping Address
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|
|
|
______________________________________________________________________
|
|
City
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|
|
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_______________________________________________ _____________________
|
|
State/Province Zip+4 or Postal Code
|
|
|
|
_______/_______________________ _______/_____________________________
|
|
Day Phone Eve Phone
|
|
|
|
[______________________________________________________________________
|
|
Internet Mail Address
|
|
|
|
[ ] [ / ]
|
|
Credit Card Number (Mastercard-Visa-Discovery-Amex) Expiration Date
|
|
|
|
______________________________________________________________________
|
|
Name on Card (please print clearly)
|
|
|
|
______________________________________________________________________
|
|
Authorized Signature (If printed, and mailed or faxed.)
|
|
|
|
If you feel that using a credit card number via email may not be secure,
|
|
considering mailing via postal service, fax, or call voice.
|
|
|
|
Sponsored by:
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|
|
|
InTrec Software, Inc.
|
|
3035 E Topaz Circle
|
|
Phoenix, AZ 85028-4423
|
|
Voc:602/992-1345
|
|
Fax:602/992-0232
|
|
<kfest@intrec.com>
|
|
<http://www.intrec.com/a2.html/kfest.txt>
|
|
|
|
---[ End of Form ]-----------[ Cut Here ]---------[ Print Clearly ]---
|
|
(CINDYADAMS, 23505, GO COM A2)
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|
|
BEST OF THE BEST
|
|
""""""""""""""""
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|
|
24063 30-JUN 22:23 User Groups & Publications
|
|
Shareware Solutions II (Re: Msg 24061)
|
|
From: SHEPPY To: JOE_KOHN (NR)
|
|
|
|
By the way, my thanks to Richard, again, for creating Marinetti in the
|
|
first place, and for his continued work at improving it.
|
|
|
|
He gets my vote for programmer of the decade.
|
|
|
|
---
|
|
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
|
|
sheppy@sheppyware.net
|
|
http://www.sheppyware.net
|
|
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|
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|
|
[EOA]
|
|
[A2P]------------------------------
|
|
A2Pro_DUCTIVITY |
|
|
-----------------------------------
|
|
Checking out A2PRO on Delphi
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
|
|
[thelamp@sheppyware.net]
|
|
|
|
|
|
OPEN SOURCE VERSION OF TIME TOOLSET AVAILABLE The Open Source version of
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" the Time toolset is now
|
|
available in the Operating Systems section of Delphi. All of the source
|
|
code, programming docs and the cdev and toolbox binaries are included in
|
|
one package. Version 1.0.3 has been on Delphi for over a month, but I had
|
|
left a copyright message in the resource fork of the control panel. The
|
|
version that was just uploaded has the resource fork corrected. I didn't
|
|
bother changing the version number of the CDEV. If you got the older
|
|
version and plan on distributing any of it based on the agreement terms
|
|
provided or plan to make any changes to the code based on the agreement
|
|
terms, please use the newly uploaded version.
|
|
|
|
Also, If I had sent anybody version 1.0 via email and want the latest copy,
|
|
send me email and I'll get this copy out to you.
|
|
|
|
Geoff
|
|
(SISGEOFF, 2675, GO COM A2PRO)
|
|
|
|
|
|
HOW ABOUT THE GENIE A2PRO LIBRARY? The entire Genie A2/A2Pro library has
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" been preserved, and we are working to
|
|
make it available again in some form. Exactly what form that will take we
|
|
are not yet 100% sure.
|
|
|
|
While most of the files can be uploaded here without any issues of
|
|
copyright or distribution, not all can. This will be an obstacle for us to
|
|
overcome in making them available. Reading the documentation accompanying
|
|
AAL, it appears that there is a formality or two to overcome in getting
|
|
them uploaded here, but it's likely we can. However, we run into the
|
|
constant issue of time and energy being limited resources and all of us
|
|
having our own projects.
|
|
|
|
In the meantime, I recently uploaded every issue of _GEnieLamp A2Pro_ to
|
|
the library here for your reading pleasure. Hopefully that'll be released
|
|
soon.
|
|
|
|
-
|
|
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
|
|
Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
|
|
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
|
|
(RSUENAGA, 2679, GO COM A2PRO)
|
|
|
|
|
|
DID YOU LEARN TO PROGRAM IN GSOFT BASIC? Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" is now officially over. I'd like
|
|
to thank all of the people who participated, especially those who provided
|
|
feedback, and David Pierce, who actually made it to the end of the course.
|
|
|
|
Whether you were in the course or not, you can always post questions here
|
|
in A2Pro about the course text, GSoft BASIC, or any of our other products
|
|
or courses. I'll be happy to help in any way I can, and I monitor this area
|
|
frequently.
|
|
|
|
While the weekly seminars have ended, I'd be happy to get together in a
|
|
chat room on an as-needed basis for this course or any other product if it
|
|
seems like a discussion is in order, and it needs to be more real-time than
|
|
posting can handle.
|
|
|
|
Once again, thanks to everyone who participated!
|
|
|
|
Mike W
|
|
(BYTEWORKS, 2681, GO COM A2PRO)
|
|
|
|
|
|
HARDWARE HACKING IN THE UK In the UK, in the dim distant past, we were
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""" able to get hold of Apple's own prototype
|
|
board, and one made by a company called VERO. VERO used to make a whole
|
|
range of prototype boards as well as the Apple one. But as it is more than
|
|
ten years since I used a soldering iron, I doubt very much if it is still
|
|
in their catalogue, or even if VERO still exist.
|
|
|
|
Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 29 Jun 1999 - 22 days till KFest '99
|
|
Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.0
|
|
Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
|
|
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
|
|
(EWANNOP, 2685, GO COM A2PRO)
|
|
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|
|
[EOA]
|
|
[WWW]------------------------------
|
|
THE WAY WE WERE |
|
|
-----------------------------------
|
|
User Group Reprints
|
|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
|
by Tee Cashmore
|
|
[teec@execulink.com]
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Some Thoughts on Accounting for Apple IIe/IIgs-Circa '93
|
|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
|
|
|
In reading the March Issue of Apple Bytes (Vol.5, #7), I was struck by
|
|
the cover photo. I'll wager that few members know that my main business is
|
|
home inspections and building consulting. After the initial shock, I was
|
|
further amazed by the ingenuity and detail of Carol Phillips' article on
|
|
using the _Appleworks_ database for her farm's accounting, which if nothing
|
|
else, gives credence to Terry Steeper's comment in the same issue, "If your
|
|
computer does everything that you need it to do, keep it."
|
|
|
|
There is a similar programme called _Alpha Check Plus_ by Actasoft,
|
|
which is a "Personal and Small Business Accounting" software that also uses
|
|
the database of _Appleworks_ version 3.0, 2.1, or 2.0. The programme is
|
|
designed to take advantage of _Ultramacros 3.1_ or above, but can be used
|
|
without it--it is simply more convenient with _Ultramacros_. You also have
|
|
the choice of single or double entry bookkeeping. Cost of the programme
|
|
was US $39.95 last year.
|
|
|
|
There is an almost identical programme called _Simplified Accounting_,
|
|
(There ain't no such aminal!!) {sic}, from the National Appleworks Users
|
|
Group, which is even cheaper!
|
|
|
|
Not that I am decrying Carol's work. I simply wanted members to know
|
|
that there are accounting programmes for the IIe or IIgs that will allow
|
|
you to separate PST & GST, which most of the newer US programmes will not
|
|
do, such as _BusinessWorks_. If PST & GST records are not required, there
|
|
are quite a few programmes available and many copies of older ones that
|
|
preceded AccPac & other popular IBM stuff by many years. _BPI_,
|
|
_Accounting Plus_ and _Peachtree Back to Basics_ are but three that readily
|
|
spring to mind and are used by a number of my clients, even in 1993. Most
|
|
are in DOS 3.3 and painfully slow by today's standards, but were the state
|
|
of the art in the early 1980s and used by all the BIG accounting firms. I
|
|
even have a few unopened copies of _BPI_, CP/M _BPI_, one of _Peachtree_
|
|
and one version for the Apple III! _DB Master_ also works and can be set
|
|
up to handle PST & GST, but the programme is painfully slow in sorting and
|
|
printing.
|
|
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Most of my small business clients only require a simple double entry
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ledger system, for which the _Appleworks_ spreadsheet can be used, in
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conjunction with "@IF" statements. I have designed a template, readily
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available to anyone, that can be easily modified, but you need lots of
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memory if you have many monthly entries (500-700K for a year). An
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accelerator is almost mandatory and a hard drive makes for a much easier
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life too!
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If you have a IIgs, the quality of choice gets a little better.
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_Quicken_, _ShoeBox_, _Your Money Matters_, and _Managing Your Money_ are
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designed for the IIgs, all are competent in their own way, but have other
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idiocyncrises.
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When will someone design a SIMPLE software accounting system? It
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should let me tell it to "pay Joe Blow $20 for software", then ask me "what
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account to pay from, and list the choices, ie: bank account, credit card,
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cash, etc., then give the option to post to "Capital Cost Allowance" and
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give me a balance. The problem is they are all designed by accountants to
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perpetuate a system that accountants designed to confuse their clients,
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thereby insuring that the accountants have future work!! That's my theory
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anyway.
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I have some of the above items in stock, some are readily available,
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some I have to search for, but all are around somewhere. Apple IIs Live On
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Forever!!!
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Tee Cashmore
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[Tee's 1999 note: Most of the above comments still apply today in 1999, the
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only essential difference is that most of the software programmes are only
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available as used software.]
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[EOA]
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[S&M]------------------------------
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SCRIPTING AND MACROS |
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Getting Started With Marinetti
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
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[thelamp@sheppyware.net]
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Getting Started With Marinetti
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Scripting. Macros. Many users shudder at the thought. Oh my, I have
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to learn this? This is like programming.
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Calm down. Relax. It's good for you, really, and it won't hurt
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hardly at all. I promise.
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Some of the most successful computer programs on any platform (in
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fact, some computer operating systems themselves) include some method of
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automating repetitive tasks by allowing you to create "macroinstructions",
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or macros for short. A macroinstruction is, well, a large instruction.
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It's large because it's made up of several instructions linked together. A
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"script" is similar to a macro, but it's usually more involved; however,
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for the purposes of this series, when you see "macro", you can think
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"script", or if you see "script", you can think "macro", if it helps you.
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In many cases, a macro or script can be invoked with a single keystroke.
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If you take a look at some of the tasks you do regularly, you may see
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some real opportunities to save a little time and a few keystrokes with
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scripts (or macros). For instance, every month when I work on editing an
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issue of _The Lamp!_, I face dozens of times I must convert a piece of text
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that looks like this:
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24106 3-JUL 04:52 Vendors & Tech Support
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Spectrum Support (Re: Msg 2252)
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From: RSUENAGA To: EWANNOP
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to something like this:
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(RSUENAGA, 24106, GO COM A2)
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Now, I could do this all manually every time I come across it, but
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it's a lot easier to write a simple macro for Appleworks that does it for
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me by:
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(1) Placing the cursor to the far left of the first line of the
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snippet (the line beginning with the number);
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(2) Moving the cursor down three spaces;
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(3) Inserting an "Unjustified" print option;
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(4) Moving the cursor up one line and to the far left;
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(5) Deleting the characters from the start of the current line
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through the eleventh character;
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(6) Inserting a "(";
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(7) Moving the cursor to the next space in the line;
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(8) Deleting everything to the far right of the line;
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(9) Moving the cursor up two lines and to the far left of the line;
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(10) Copying the message number to the line we were just working on
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at the far right end;
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(11) Adding a comma, a space, and the text "GO COM A2)" to the end of
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the line;
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(12) Centering the line;
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(13) Deleting the two lines above it.
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Whew! That's a ton of steps for formatting a line of text; still,
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it's a lot--and I mean _a lot_--more efficient to create a macro to do this
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if you'll be doing this over and over and over again. In fact, I did just
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this to make editing this newsletter easier and more time efficient.
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A specific example we'll take a look at with regards to the Apple IIgs
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is the _TCP/IP CDev_, the interface the user actually works with to help
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connect the Apple IIgs to the Internet. If you have an Internet Service
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Provider which provides SLIP access, you will need to come up with a script
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for _Marinetti_ to follow.
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The first thing to do when writing a _Marinetti_ SLIP script is to
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manually use your telecommunications program to do what you need to do to
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sign on and sign off of your ISP using SLIP and take note of the
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scrollback. For instance, when I log into my local Linux connection and
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start slirp, a SLIP emulator, the scrollback looks like this:
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[BEGINNING OF SCREEN SHOT]-------------------------------------------------
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Welcome to Linux 2.0.29
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linda login: rsuenaga
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Password: password
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Last login: Wed Jul 14 20:09:42 on cua1.
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No mail.
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Help stamp out and abolish redundancy.
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linda:~$ slirp
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Copyright (c) 1995,1996 Danny Gasparovski and others.
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All rights reserved.
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This program is copyrighted, free software.
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Please read the file COPYRIGHT that came with the Slirp
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package for the terms and conditions of the copyright.
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IP address of SLirp host: 127.0.0.1
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IP address of your DNS(s): 204.210.96.1, 204.210.96.2
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Your address is 10.0.2.15
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(or anything else you want)
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Type five zeroes (0) to exit.
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[autodetect SLIP/CSLIP, MTU 1500, MRU 1500, 115200 baud]
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SLiRP Ready ...
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[END OF SCREEN SHOT]-------------------------------------------------------
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That is the entire sign on until the SLIP connection kicks in. To
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disconnect, we merely need to send five 0's at moderate speed to the
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connection, bringing us back to the linda:~$ prompt. We can then logout
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and return to the initial sign in.
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Knowing this, the next step is to set up _Marinetti_'s connection (via
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the well-named "Setup connection..." button) in the _TCP/IP CDev_. Hitting
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this button then gives you a dialog box where you can insert at least four
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basic pieces of information we already have above: username, password, and
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primary and secondary Domain Name Server IP addresses.
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Username: rsuenaga
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Password: password (represented by diamonds in the CDev for privacy)
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Primary DNS: 204.210.96.1
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Secondary DNS: 204.210.96.2
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I also know I need a SLIP connection, so I select the SLIP Link layer,
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then hit the configure button to set up my scripts.
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Following this, let's break down what happens into what the IIgs needs
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to do and what the Linux box does. The first thing to take care of in
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setting up my script is the speed of the serial connection. This is taken
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care of with a very simple command:
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speed 38400
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All this command does is dictate what speed to run the serial port at.
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Since my connection is a hardwired serial cable from the Linux box to the
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IIgs running at 38400, this was something simple to setup. If you are
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using the more common modem connection, base your serial port rate on the
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speed of your modem: for a 14,400 maximum speed modem, use a command of
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"speed 19200"; for a 33,600 maximum speed modem, use a command of "speed
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38400".
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My next command is simply:
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send cr
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This command sends a carriage return to the serial port. I do this
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because if the text that's already sent through the serial port on my
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screen is "login:", hitting a carriage return will result in another
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"login:" prompt. This is the prompt I use to trigger the rest of the
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script.
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My next step gets into the actual logon. If you are using a modem to
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dial an Internet Service Provider, you probably want to next initialize
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your modem, dial your ISP, and make sure it connects. To do this you may
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want to send commands like:
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send ATZ cr
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wait 500 OK
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sent ATDT 5551212 cr
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wait 500 CARRIER
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The send commands simply send what immediately follows to the serial
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port (and connected modem). The wait commands instruct the IIgs to wait
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for a given string to be sent to it through the serial ports. You can
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place time limits on how long the IIgs will wait before generating an
|
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error. Given the command "wait 500 OK", the IIgs will wait 500 60th's of a
|
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second--roughly 8 seconds--for the serial port to receive the string "OK".
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If the 8 seconds pass without an "OK", an error is generated.
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In my case, since I have a hardwired serial connection, I'm simply
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waiting for the "login:" prompt. So my next command is:
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wait 500 login:
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Once I receive the "login:" prompt, it's time to send my username.
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Here I can either simply type:
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send rsuenaga cr
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or, if I want to take advantage of some of the variables the CDev supports,
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I can use:
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send USERNAME$ cr
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which will do the same thing, but it will use the Username I typed in the
|
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earlier CDev dialog. To complete the sign on process, I use:
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wait 500 word:
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send PASSWORD$ cr
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which waits for the "word:" part of the "Password:" prompt, and sends the
|
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value in the Password box.
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I am next waiting for the string "linda:~$", after which I'll send my
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slirp command. So as you may have guessed, the next strings are:
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wait 500 ~$
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send slirp cr
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At this point, all that's required is to parse the IIgs's IP address
|
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out of the information slirp sends and to end the script. The line the
|
|
IIgs is sent indicating its assigned IP address is:
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Your address is 10.0.2.15
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so to get the IP parsed and usable by _Marinetti_, we then use the
|
|
following lines:
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wait 500 'Your address is '
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getip 300
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followed by:
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end
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So in all, the script looks like this:
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speed 38400
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send cr
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wait 500 login:
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send USERNAME$ cr
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wait 500 word:
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send PASSWORD$ cr
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wait 500 ~$
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send slirp cr
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wait 500 'Your address is '
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getip 300
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end
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Save, then exit.
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Next we need to construct a disconnect script. This is even easier
|
|
than the connect script. Remembering that the slirp script terminates with
|
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five zeroes, leaving the connection at the "linda:~$" prompt, I constructed
|
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the following script to leave me back where I started:
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delay 50
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send 0
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delay 10
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send 0
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delay 10
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send 0
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delay 10
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send 0
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delay 10
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send 0
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wait 500~$
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send logout cr
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end
|
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The only new command here is "delay", and it simply lets you specify
|
|
an amount of time (in 60ths of a second, again) to delay before issuing the
|
|
next command.
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|
That's all there is to it! Now, my IIgs connects to and disconnects
|
|
from the Internet as fast as can be, all thanks to a couple of scripts. We
|
|
will continue to look at scripting various Apple II programs in coming
|
|
months.
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:: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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: :
|
|
: I'm not really lost, just locationally challenged. :
|
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: :
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::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: LUMITECH ::::::
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[EOA]
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[INN]------------------------------
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EXTRA INNINGS |
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-----------------------------------
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About The Lamp! The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month in
|
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""""""""""""""" the Database of the II Scribe Forum on the Delphi online
|
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service (GO CUS 11).
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This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computers
|
|
using Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes. Apple II Forever!
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* The Lamp! is (c) copyright 1999 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W. All
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rights reserved.
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* To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to
|
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thelamp@sheppyware.net
|
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* Back issues of The Lamp! are available in the II Scribe Forum on
|
|
Delphi as well as The Lamp! Home Page,
|
|
http://lamp.sheppyware.net.
|
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|
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
|
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Opinions expressed herein are those of the individual authors, and do not
|
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necessarily represent the opinions of the Delphi Online Services,
|
|
Syndicomm, Inc., or Ryan M. Suenaga. Forum messages are reprinted
|
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verbatim and are included in this publication with permission from the
|
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individual authors. Delphi Online Services, Syndicomm, Inc. and Ryan M.
|
|
Suenaga do not guarantee the accuracy or suitability of any information
|
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included herein. We reserve the right to edit all letters and copy.
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Material published in this edition may not be reprinted without the
|
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expressed written consent of the publisher. Registered computer user
|
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groups, not for profit publications , and other interested parties may
|
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write the publisher to apply for permission to reprint any or all material.
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[EOF]
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