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>>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<<
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THE VIRTUAL ][: Sheppy's ImageMaker Boosts Bernie's Bones
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AND THE BEST OF THE A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS
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"Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998"
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The Lamp! An Onipa'a Software Production Vol. 2, No. 3
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Publisher & Editor.......................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
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Internet Email....................................thelamp@sheppyware.net
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
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March 15, 1999
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OPENING PITCH
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Oh My Lord, We're Going To The Dance! -------------------------- [OPN]
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GOING POSTAL
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Letters To The Editor ------------------------------------------ [POS]
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A FUNNY THING HAPPENED [FOR]
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The Heat Is On ------------------------------------------------- [HET]
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Miscellanea [MSC]
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Rumor Mill ----------------------------------------------------- [RMR]
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Public Postings [PUB]
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Best Of The Best ----------------------------------------------- [BOB]
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A2Pro_DUCTIVITY
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Checking out A2PRO on Delphi ----------------------------------- [A2P]
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THE VIRTUAL ][
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Sheppy's ImageMaker Boosts Bernie's Bones ---------------------- [TVT]
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EXTRA INNINGS
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About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]
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[*] [*] [*]
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READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make
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""""""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this
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issue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will find
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something like:
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EXTRA INNINGS
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About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]
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To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate
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[INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].
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:: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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: :
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: I had my head examined. They didn't find *anything*! :
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[EOA]
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[OPN]------------------------------
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From The Editor
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by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
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[thelamp@sheppyware.net]
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OH MY LORD, WE'RE GOING TO THE DANCE!
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A few years ago, when the University of Hawai'i men's basketball team
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earned its way into the National Collegiate Athletic Association
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championship tournament--known alternatively as "March Madness" and "The
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Big Dance"--with an improbable run through an impossible field of Western
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Athletic Conference opponents, legend has it one of the homegrown players
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on the Hawai'i roster screamed at the top of his lungs, "Oh my Lord, we're
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going to the dance!"
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Who wouldn't be excited? March Madness is a gathering of the best of
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college athletics in this country, and while some may leave disappointed,
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no one regrets going, although many regret squandering the chance to go.
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The Apple II Community has its own Big Dance--it's called KansasFest.
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It is indeed a gathering of the best the Apple II world has to offer, but
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unlike college basketball's Big Dance, no one leaves disappointed, unless
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it's because they couldn't do everything they wanted to, and like college
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basketball's Big Dance, many regret squandering their chance to go.
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Unlike March Madness, the field isn't limited to those who are invited
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only--or rather, everyone's invited.
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Don't live with regrets--go to the dance.
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[*] [*] [*]
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Late Breaking News Department: here is an official announcment from
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Glen Bredon and Charlie's AppleSeeds, the author and publisher of the
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ultimate Apple II and IIgs utilities, _ProSEL 8_ and _ProSEL 16_:
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Official Announcement March 6, 1999
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September will end 10 years that Charlie's AppleSeeds has published and
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sold ProSel and ProSel-16 for Glen Bredon. Demand for things Apple II is
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almost nonexistent and for that reason, I asked for and was granted, by
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E-mail, permission to announce that ProSel and ProSel-16 will be moved to
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the Public Domain. (See Glen Bredon's message below)
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Upgrades by disk and new copies by disk will be $10, regardless whether it
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is ProSel 8 or ProSel-16. This will cover my costs for materials, time and
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effort and postage.
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A copy of the manual will be $14. Book and ProSel-16 disk, $24. Postage is
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included in all prices. I will split whatever net I get from this, with
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Glen, as usual.
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Charlie's AppleSeeds will not upload these programs to any online service.
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ANY uploads of ProSel or ProSel-16, to be properly uploaded as Public
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Domain, should be the latest versions of the programs. This announcement
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does not include earlier versions as part of the Public Domain. To do
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otherwise would be a disservice not only to any new user, but to the
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programmer, Professor Glen E. Bredon.
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The OFFICIAL versions that are recognized as Public Domain are:
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ProSel-16, v 8.84
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ProSel 8, v 4.0
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ANY upload of these programs MUST include this text file, unchanged in any
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way, in its entirety.
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Chuck
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Charlie's AppleSeeds
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9081 Hadley Place
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San Diego CA 92126-1523
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619-566-0387
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Subj: phone call
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Date: 02/21/1999 3:32:00 PM Pacific Standard Time
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From: bredon@sierratel.com (Glen Bredon)
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To: chucknewby@aol.com (Chuck Newby)
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Chuck:
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To confirm our phone conversation: I give my permission to place ProSel 8
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and ProSel 16 in public domain.
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In case anyone asks, however, I will not supply source code. It is just a
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simple matter that access to the old files is problematic - the GS was
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getting very touchy before I retired it from my desk. Also, it would just
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be too much of a bother to get things together.
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I am now doing mostly photography on my pretty new PowerMac G3.
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I even have a web site containing a bunch of my photos (see below).
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Glen Bredon
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Visit my Photographic Web Site: http://www.sierratel.com/bredon
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Contents Copyright (c) Charlie's AppleSeeds & Glen E. Bredon, 1999.
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Chuck Newby
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Thanks, Chuck and Glen. That is great news.
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The Delphi A2 Database staff is working on getting the official
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versions now considered public domain ready for upload to Delphi. If you
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happen to find _ProSel_ on an Internet ftp site or BBS, please check to see
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if it's the current version, if the text file is included, and, if it's a
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bootable diskette, if the site has a license to distribute the Apple System
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Software as well. _ProSel_, in both versions, is an exceptionally useful
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set of utilities, but it can also be exceptionally dangerous, and it was
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upgraded as much as it was for good reasons. Be careful. In the meantime,
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we'll add _ProSel_ to the list of things we hope to cover in _The Lamp!_.
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[*] [*] [*]
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Let's Dance Department: KansasFest 1999 registration is on _now_!
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Your chance to hang out with the best the Apple II world has to offer is
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right before your eyes. Early registration discount prices will be going
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on for another month. Don't miss this opportunity to make the pilgrimage
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to Avila College part of your summer. You can find out more information on
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the KFest Home page at http://www.kfest.org.
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Remember: there's nothing finer than Kansas City in July.
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Be good. We'll be back in thirty.
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Ryan
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ASCII ART BEGINS
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[EOA]
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[POS]------------------------------
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GOING POSTAL |
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Letters To The Editor
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Hello Ryan,
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I just want to drop a quick note thanking you for publishing The Lamp! I
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really do appreciate it and I glean much needed info from it as an Apple II
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user, enthusiast, and die hard fan.
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It's an excellent publication, and ranks right up there with my Juiced.GS
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and Shareware Solutions II publications which I receive.
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I hope you have a great weekend Ryan!
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regards, perry dueck
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pmd@escape.ca
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http://www.escape.ca/~pmd
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Thanks, Perry. I'm amazed sometimes by how little mail we get
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here at _The Lamp!_, yet this month we had two nice letters. It's nice to
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know I'm not just doing this stuff for my health (tongue planted firmly in
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cheek).--RMS
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[EOA]
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[OPN]------------------------------
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A FUNNY THING HAPPENED. . . . |
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Checking out A2 on Delphi
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by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
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[thelamp@sheppyware.net]
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* The Heat Is On
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* Miscellanea
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* Rumor Mill
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* Public Postings
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* Best Of The Best
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THE HEAT IS ON
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[*] General Chatter ....... More On Apple Manuals Online
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[*] Apple Operating System ....... Using HFS+ Via Appleshare
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[*] Hardware Hacker ....... RamFASTs And More Than 4 Megs
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[*] Apple Operating System ....... How To Reset AppleTalk?
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[*] Graphics and Sound ....... Bill Lynn Surfaces On Delphi
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MISCELLANEA
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SPECCIE ON MODEMS, CONTINUED It might be thought that even if you make a
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" 300 baud connection, but have a modem
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capable of 57600 baud, then it is OK to connect to the modem at that high
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speed. You think that the data will only be arriving at 300 baud...
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But that is not the case!
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If you have a computer to modem speed of 57600 baud, then the data will
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arrive at the computer at that speed, regardless of how fast it actually
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arrived at the modem. The result could be loss of data if the interrupt
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system on your computer cannot keep up with that high baud rate.
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The golden rule is to set the computer to modem speed the same as the
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highest you will be connecting at, or the next highest speed if that one
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does not exist in your comms program.
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This rule was fine until modems got up to 57600 baud. Now we must temper
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that rule by also defining how efficient the interrupt chain is in your
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particular computer.
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At high baud rates, it is also vital that you have the correctly wired
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Hardware Handshake cable from your computer to the modem.
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If you have a //e, then I would guess that 38400 baud may be the fastest
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you can manage, though you might be able to go faster. If you have a IIgs,
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and shift-boot into P8 to run ProTerm, then you should have no problem with
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even a stock unaccelerated machine at 57600 baud.
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Running a desktop comms program like Spectrum, gives you a longer interrupt
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chain, and so things will work slower. Even with a shift-boot, I would
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expect an unnaccelerated machine to have problems with 38400 baud.
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Accelerate it, and 38400 baud will work well. Run a IIgs emulator such as
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Bernie ][ the Rescue on a Macintosh of at least 100Mhz, and you will be
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able to go to the full 57600 baud.
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The collection of Inits and DAs you have can also have a bearing on all
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this, and must be taken into consideration if you get any data loss or
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errors.
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Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 1 Feb 2000 - 195 days till KFest '99
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Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 2.6
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Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing on a PowerMac 8200/120
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http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
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(EWANNOP, 20001, GO COM A2)
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NUFX AND BINARY II RULES FOR DELPHI UPLOADS AS PER CONAN Actually, the
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" rules go
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something like this:
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1) All files must be packed with ShrinkIt and wrapped in Binary II,
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except for platform-independent files such as GIF and JPEG, and
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the rare Macintosh files which are Stuffed and MacBinaried.
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2) The ShrinkIt archive name must match the Binary II name. In other
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words, NEATGAME.BXY had better have NEATGAME.SHK inside, and the
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filetype on NEATGAME.SHK had better be correct ($E0/$8002.)
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3) No disk archives or self-extracting archives unless absolutely
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necessary. The former is usually reserved for non-ProDOS disks and
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disks that use Apple's Installer. The latter is not used at all
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except for the ShrinkIt program itself (it's easier for newbies to
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unpack it that way...usually.)
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That's pretty much it. Some people pack multiple file archives in their own
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folders, but that's certainly not a requirement. In fact, it takes a tiny
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bit of unnecessary space that way. ShrinkIt has an option to create a new
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folder to unpack files into, so that's not a problem anyway. If you open an
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archive that's got 51 files not enclosed in a folder, make one yourself.
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It is customary, but not required, that the archive name in some way
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resemble what's inside. For example, it's nice to put a game called "Neat
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Game" in an archive called NEATGAME.BXY instead of MISC.STUFF.BXY.
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Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Tue Feb 09, 1999 4:33:58 am
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[Delivered with Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold]
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I am not a dictator. It's just I have a grumpy face.
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(TONYW1, 20263, GO COM A2)
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<<<<< Here's one reason for not putting multiple files inside a folder
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""""" when you make the ShrinkIt archive. Let's say I download an upgrade
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of a program I already own. I want to have ShrinkIt overwrite the old files
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as they are unpacked. If the files were archived inside a folder, then I
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have to make sure the folder name on my disk match the one the author used
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when he made the archive. If they don't match, I have to unpack into a
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separate folder, quit ShrinkIt, and copy the files to where they belong.
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Okay, that's probably an extreme example but I think it makes my point.
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As for shell unpacking, doesn't yankit have an option to list the contents
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of an archive? I know it's an extra step, but it would solve the problem.
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- Tony
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(TONYW1, 20281, GO COM A2)
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CREATING USABLE GWIII IMAGES WITH A QUICKIE If you have GWIII v2.0 or
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" above, try this:
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1) Install the Quickie NDA - and reboot your system. At least on my
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system, if I install NDAs via IR and then go into GWIII v2.0, I get the
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'about' dialog when I choose the newly added NDA.
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2) Launch GWIII and create/open the document of interest.
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3) Open the Quickie NDA and scan/open the graphic that you want in the
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GWIII document.
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4) Using the 'marquee' tool in the Quickie NDA, outline the area of the
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picture that you want in the document and do a Command-C (or choose Copy
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from the Quickie NDA's Edit menu)
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5) Click on the GWIII document window and do Edit/Paste.
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6) If necessary, resize the picture with the 'object properties' dialog.
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Don't try to resize it by dragging the frame.
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See if that helps...
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(DZAHNISER, 20042, GO COM A2)
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COMPUSERVE CLOSES APPUSER FORUM We've known for months of the upcoming
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" changes on CompuServe, and how at some
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point, the Apple II forum (Appuse) would become inaccessible to those who
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own only an Apple II computer. We just never knew exactly when the changes
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would take place. But just the other day, we were informed that the end was
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near.
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I was hoping that we'd be able to get in one final Monday night
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multi-system chat before the Appuse forum was no longer accessible to those
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with an Apple II, and to that end, I urged 100 Apple II users on CompuServe
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to show up tonight in order to "send a message" to the 'powers that be' at
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CompuServe.
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As it turns out, that last little bit of Apple II rabble rousing may have
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been fun, but when I tried logging onto Appuse this morning, I found out
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that we won't be able to show the CompuServe big-wigs that we take our
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"Apple II Forever" slogan seriously. They went ahead and shut the Appuse
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forum.
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There is, however, a little justice in the world.
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The Apple II area on CompuServe now resides within the Mac Hardware forum,
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and as an early-riser, I was able to snag the first Apple II message on
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that new area. Using my Apple II "PowerBot" peripheral, I made sure that
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the welcoming message stated the obvious..."Apple II Forever!"
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Oh well. It was fun while it lasted, but it looks like our multi-system
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chat is now down to just Delphi and Genie.
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Joe Kohn
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>>>>> Hi all,
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I wasn't sure where to put this; I hope it isn't too evil of me to start a
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new thread. This news is a few days old but I didn't see it mentioned in
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the message base here, so...
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As of Monday, the Apple II User Forum on CompuServe - GO APPUSER - is no
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longer accessible via ASCII. In fact, the forum itself no longer exists.
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All that remains is message Section 14/Apple II and file Library 16/Apple
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II in the Macintosh Hardware Forum, GO MACHW.
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A few years ago CompuServe started switching from the 36-bit computers used
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to run ASCII forums as APPUSER, to new 32-bit systems running NISA (New
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Information System Architecture, I think). Both systems could be accessed
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by a program that employed HMI (Human Micro Interface?), CompuServe's
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proprietary data protocol; but in order to trim costs and also to make room
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for new WebView forums, the new machines no longer have ASCII support.
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Forums for which ASCII support was integral to their subject material, such
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as APPUSER, have been maintained, but it is now reported that these forums
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are not Y2K-compliant; and rather than upgrade them, all remaining ASCII
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forums are now either being switched to NISA, or are being absorbed by NISA
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forums (as was the case with APPUSER).
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|
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The chance of an HMI-capable program ever existing for the Apple II is
|
|
zilch. CompuServe refuses to release the programming specs.
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|
|
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Macintosh users can use MacCIM or MacNav - these are two of a handful of
|
|
Mac HMI programs.
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|
|
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Apple II users can still logon to CompuServe's ASCII side and access
|
|
whatever is still available through that format: email, Executive News
|
|
Service, Grolier's Encyclopedia, etc. CIS can also be used as an ISP with
|
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Marinetti.
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|
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|
The updates to ShiftyList, WebWorks, and Bernie should be available in
|
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MACHW later this week.
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(KEN_GAGNE, 20081, GO COM A2)
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|
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>>>>> An interesting sidenote: When I got the "your software isn't
|
|
""""" compatible with the forum" message on CIS Monday morning, I called
|
|
CIS to cancel my account. I was informed by the nice lady I talked to that
|
|
since I had been a CIS subscriber since 1986, they could offer me a special
|
|
status: I no longer will have to pay a minimum monthly charge for having a
|
|
CIS account. I can let this account sit dormant for years into the future
|
|
with no problems, and should I decide to log on, I'll only be charged
|
|
$1.95/hr. and I can upgrade my account status at any time.
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|
|
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She then asked why I was going to cancel (I did take the new acct. status,
|
|
BTW), and I told her that CIS was of little use to me with the Apple II
|
|
area turned off. Not ony was she unaware that there HAD been an Apple II
|
|
section on the system she was a cust.ser rep for, it turns out that she
|
|
owns an Apple //e, and is interested in getting it back up and running and
|
|
on the net. I pointed her to the A2 Motherboard, and Delphi, and I think
|
|
she may join here. Score one for the Apple //. :)
|
|
|
|
later............Howard
|
|
(HKATZ, 20085, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> The passing (well, for the most part, passing) of the Apple II
|
|
""""" areas on CSi is indeed sad news, but to be honest, for the most
|
|
part they were already a part of Apple II history.
|
|
|
|
Just as Genie made an effort years ago to take in the refugees from AOL
|
|
when they dropped Apple II support, I'd like to invite anyone who is a CSi
|
|
refugee (well, actually, I guess they're AOL refugees too :) to come on
|
|
over to Delphi.
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|
|
|
The future of the Apple II is in our hands.
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|
|
|
-
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|
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
|
|
Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
|
|
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
|
|
(RSUENAGA, 20105, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
WHICH 8-BIT II? Shame on you! An enhanced IIe with additional cards will
|
|
""""""""""""""" knock the spots of any IIC and you can easily add a hard
|
|
drive; try that with a IIC. Admittedly a IIC looks cute, but the keyboard
|
|
is only good for small fingers, memory is very limited; even with a 1 meg
|
|
card; and the regular monitor is very small. 3.5" drives are easy to attach
|
|
to a IIe, but only certain ones work with a IIC. Hope I have made my point.
|
|
TTFN,
|
|
Tee Cashmore
|
|
PS: I have lots of software that will run on either.
|
|
(TEEC, 20190, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> Well, I generally agree with you that a //e is far more expandable,
|
|
""""" more easily, than a //c or //c+, but let's not sell those short. :)
|
|
|
|
I have a //c+ here which is the most used 8-bit II I have. Granted, it's a
|
|
rather hot-rodded //c+, but hey, what else would you expect from me :) I
|
|
have five //e's on the shelf, and one in the closet (that is working, and
|
|
will, someday, be a BBS computer).
|
|
|
|
-
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|
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
|
|
Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
|
|
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
|
|
(RSUENAGA, 20208, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
SHELL GAMES WITH ISPS Well, there are actually two kinds of shell
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""" accounts:
|
|
|
|
1) The dial up shell;
|
|
|
|
and
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|
|
|
2) The telnet only shell.
|
|
|
|
If you have the former type, it's something in your dialing. For instance,
|
|
several of the ISP's I have dealt with have you put a P before your
|
|
username when logging into them via dial up to indicate a PPP connect;
|
|
without the P, it would be a dial up shell.
|
|
|
|
Telnet only shells mean that once you have a PPP connect, you open up a
|
|
telnet session to their shell. You'll have to check with your provider to
|
|
see which you have.
|
|
|
|
-
|
|
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
|
|
Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
|
|
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
|
|
(RSUENAGA, 20212, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> Each ISP is a little bit different, but it's almost always done by
|
|
""""" varying your username at the "login:" prompt. The better ISPs help
|
|
you out by displaying instructions at login time, but many do not. My ISP
|
|
does it by adding a character to the start of your username:
|
|
|
|
username : PPP
|
|
Pusername : Force dynamic IP PPP login
|
|
Susername : SLIP
|
|
Cusername : CSLIP
|
|
Rusername : Rlogin Adam
|
|
Nusername : Rlogin Nathan
|
|
|
|
Adam and Nathan are the names of two shell machines. Since usernames are
|
|
always lowercase, those uppercase characters come in handy for this sort of
|
|
thing.
|
|
|
|
You will have to contact your ISP to see how they have it setup.
|
|
|
|
------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|
Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Mon Feb 08, 1999 2:21:53 am
|
|
[Delivered with Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold]
|
|
--
|
|
Never drink whisky on an empty ulcer!
|
|
(TONYW1, 20243, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
CARL ON APPLIED ENGINEERING HIGH DENSITY FLOPPIES I have one of the AE HD
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" drives. It came with a
|
|
driver to do 1.6M using the GS floppy port, but I bought it with an Apple
|
|
3.5" drive controller, alias the Apple Superdrive controller. When used
|
|
with the Superdrive controller, it uses the 3.5 driver supplied with System
|
|
6.0.1, which supports the 1.44M format. You can have 1.6M or 1.44M, but not
|
|
both at the same time. I chose the more standard, and interchangeable,
|
|
1.44M format.
|
|
|
|
Also, the AE driver, used on the floppy port, will not read MSDOS disks
|
|
from your Wintel machine, or write MSDOS disks that can be read on your
|
|
Wintel machine.
|
|
--
|
|
Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Sat 13 Feb 99 8:30:30 pm
|
|
cknoblo@novia.net - Via Spectrum v2.2 & Crock O' Gold v2.6
|
|
KansasFest 11, July 21-25, 1999 - 158 days till KFest
|
|
Posted with delays off.
|
|
(CKNOBLO, 20413, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
THE FORMER FAST EDDIE NARROWS THE GAP ON GUS Many of you know that I've
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" been a Gus fan for years.
|
|
Some of you know why: Gus is faster.
|
|
|
|
Well, I've just finished some benchmarks on Gus and Bernie 2.0, and thought
|
|
you might like to see the results. Running on a 300MHz PowerMac G3, a full
|
|
compile of GSoft BASIC takes:
|
|
|
|
Gus 66 seconds
|
|
Bernie 2.0 72 seconds
|
|
|
|
In the past, Gus was about twice as fast as Bernie. Getting within 8% of
|
|
Gus pretty much makes them equivalent. When you consider how many more
|
|
features Bernie has, and how much better the support is, I'd say Bernie is
|
|
starting to stack up pretty darn well. If I were paying money, and had to
|
|
pick one, I think I'd pick Bernie. And since you can't buy Gus at any
|
|
price...
|
|
|
|
Mike Westerfield
|
|
(BYTEWORKS, 20276, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
<<<<< With a 9MHz (geeze that sounds slow these days) Zip accelerator,
|
|
""""" the time for a full compile is...
|
|
|
|
(I'm waiting for the compile...)
|
|
|
|
(I'm still waiting...)
|
|
|
|
(...still waiting...)
|
|
|
|
(...tap, tap, tap, tap... still waiting...)
|
|
|
|
OK, it's 12:33, or 753 seconds.
|
|
|
|
Mike Westerfield
|
|
(BYTEWORKS, 20522, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> I've been following this discussion, and I'm glad Mike found Bernie
|
|
""""" a worthwhile substitute for GUS. I've noticed that a number of
|
|
people have started comparing performance of Gus & Bernie, and while
|
|
personally I believe that it's pointless comparing two emulators that are
|
|
representatives of the same MHz class, my programmer's ego wants me to
|
|
comment on the various figures given earlier.
|
|
|
|
SpeedTest, a GUI benchmarking program, is considered a real-world
|
|
performance test. I will let the figures speak for themselves.
|
|
|
|
256 colors thousands
|
|
GUS d3 240 282
|
|
Bernie 210 209
|
|
|
|
256 colors test done at forced 60Hz. Thousands of colors test done at 15Hz
|
|
which GUS seems to use by default. Host machine G3/300/1MbL2@150Mhz.
|
|
(GUDATH, 20327, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
<<<<< That's an interesting benchmark, too. It also points out that when
|
|
""""" speed is a concern you have to test a computer doing tasks that are
|
|
typical of what you generally do on the computer. While this is an
|
|
important benchmark for many people, it doesn't mean a lot to me--but the
|
|
speed of development tools processing my programs obviously means a great
|
|
deal to me. :)
|
|
|
|
Mike Westerfield
|
|
(BYTEWORKS, 20343, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> I consider the benchmark important, but by no means a good
|
|
""""" comparison (the only thing it proved was that Bernie handled small
|
|
section of graphics redraw better than GUS at 16-bit color mode). Full
|
|
screen redraw tests can use Task Force and Rastan. Other comparisons are
|
|
needed like compiling a program as Mike said (this is one of the most
|
|
popular methods of comparing systems). Also, performing several common
|
|
tasks with AppleWorks GS such as sorting a database, finding text in a
|
|
document, spell checking, etc. File I/O such as booting and loading several
|
|
common programs would be needed as well. 8-bit application comparison would
|
|
be interesting, but IMO not important.
|
|
|
|
But since GUS isn't publicly available, I'm not sure if it is worth going
|
|
through all that.
|
|
|
|
Geoff
|
|
(SISGEOFF, 20344, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> For me, the best benchmark was the WolfyMark test.
|
|
"""""
|
|
On my 9 MHz IIgs, it takes 1 hour, 45 minutes to do a full compile of Wolf
|
|
3D in ORCA/C.
|
|
|
|
On a Power Mac 8100, in Bernie, it took 45 minutes to do a full build of
|
|
Wolf 3D in ORCA/C.
|
|
|
|
On a Power Mac G3/266, in Bernie, it takes 1 minute, 45 seconds.
|
|
|
|
On a Power Mac G3/266, in Gus, it takes 1 minute, 32 seconds.
|
|
|
|
On a Power Mac 8500 with two 180 MHz PowerPC 604e processors, in Sweet16 on
|
|
BeOS, it takes 1 minute, 22 seconds.
|
|
|
|
On the same Power Mac 8500, two processors, running Bernie in the
|
|
SheepShaver Mac OS environment for BeOS, it takes 1 minute, 12 seconds.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
|
|
sheppy@sheppyware.net
|
|
http://www.sheppyware.net
|
|
(SHEPPY, 20355, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
TRACKING CRASHES TO EDITMENUICONS? Within the past week or two, there was
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" some discussion about the init
|
|
'EditMenuIcons'. I said that I had deleted it from my system because I had
|
|
problems with it, but couldn't remember what they were. Well, I decided to
|
|
re-install it because I do really like the icons in the Edit menu.
|
|
However...
|
|
|
|
For those with EditMenuIcons installed, here's an experiment you can try,
|
|
if you like. I would be interested to hear if others get the same response
|
|
as I do.
|
|
|
|
1) Launch WWPro, SnowTerm, or QuickClickCalc. This experiment doesn't
|
|
produce the same result with GraphicWriter III v2.1.
|
|
|
|
2) Open IRNDA 2.0, and load an NDA. Try ASCIIHelper, GSCII+, ShowMe!, or
|
|
MightyUnits. It didn't work when I loaded MemoryMonitor.
|
|
|
|
3) Close the NDA you opened and the IRNDA 2.0 window.
|
|
|
|
4) Move your mouse cursor to the File menu, click and hold, and drag over
|
|
to the Edit menu, and see what happens.
|
|
|
|
**** My system immediately crashes ****
|
|
|
|
I have SysFail Plus 2.3 installed, and it displays the same error message,
|
|
resource ID and call information no matter which of the above programs I am
|
|
in or which DA I am trying to load. My system also crashes with the same
|
|
error if I try to load one of the above NDAs with Accessory Chooser, FontDA
|
|
2.0, and one other DA loader NDA that I tried.
|
|
|
|
If I deactivate EditMenuIcons, the errors go away.
|
|
|
|
One variant that I have seen is that within LaunchBox, which normally has a
|
|
dimmed Edit menu, the dimmed icons and Command-keystrokes are displayed,
|
|
but the words Cut, Paste, and Copy are missing. Otherwise, no problem,
|
|
except I launched a program and was able to crash my system by just
|
|
selecting File and dragging over to the Edit menu in the launched program.
|
|
(DZAHNISER, 20296, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> Very interesting, Don. Following your steps I crashed just like you
|
|
""""" did, and removing EditMenuIcons cured the problem. Normally I blame
|
|
this sort of Resource error on an application (or NDA) not keeping track of
|
|
the resource path, but the one program which normally exhibits this sort of
|
|
error for me, Wings, doesn't crash at all.
|
|
|
|
WWPro and QuickClickCalc are the only two programs I've found so far that
|
|
cause this crash, and I don't use either one very often. I also don't often
|
|
perform the exact sequence of steps that causes the crash so it's no wonder
|
|
I've never noticed it.
|
|
|
|
------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|
Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Thu Feb 11, 1999 12:12:41 am
|
|
[Delivered with Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold]
|
|
--
|
|
1991 - The Year of the Palindrome
|
|
(TONYW1, 20310, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
<<<<< AWGS is another program that, following the steps I indicated,
|
|
""""" keeps the icons and Command-Key equivalents, but loses the names of
|
|
the common Edit menu functions - At least it did in the WP module when I
|
|
tried it.
|
|
(DZAHNISER, 20321, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
>>>>> This and QuickClickCalc are what I was using when I noticed
|
|
""""" problems with EditMenuIcons. That's when I removed it from my
|
|
system.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jeff Carr
|
|
Thu, 11 Feb 99 @ 8:26:47
|
|
|
|
Cruising the 'rainbow' path provided by:
|
|
Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold v2.6
|
|
|
|
This is as useful as underarm deodorant for snakes.
|
|
(LUMITECH, 20357, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> I don't have an NDA loader installed, but I have had some
|
|
""""" "interesting" crashes, and other strange effects recently. I may
|
|
just inactivate EditMenuIcons for a while, to see if these things go away.
|
|
Before EditMenuIcons was installed, I had a very stable system.
|
|
--
|
|
Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Sat 13 Feb 99 9:14:55 pm
|
|
cknoblo@novia.net - Via Spectrum v2.2 & Crock O' Gold v2.6
|
|
KansasFest 11, July 21-25, 1999 - 158 days till KFest
|
|
Posted with delays off.
|
|
(CKNOBLO, 20415, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
TONY AND HAROLD SERVE UP OLD SIDER The Siders (that boot into DOS 3.3,
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" which sounds like what you have) are
|
|
setup to boot in whatever slot they were formatted/installed in. There is a
|
|
slot change program on the drive. Normally people used them in slot 7, in
|
|
some cases, slot 5. Could possibly be slot 6 in your case.
|
|
|
|
There is a 4 byte patch in the DOS 3.3 RWTS that hooks into the Sider I/O
|
|
firmware. Thus, INITializing a disk with the slot set to a particular slot
|
|
will also allow access to a Sider from a certain slot.
|
|
|
|
Old stuff.. While I do remember some other locations in DOS 3.3 RWTS, the
|
|
Sider I/O, I do not.
|
|
|
|
The default format was a little of each partition type, DOS 3.3, ProDOS,
|
|
Pascal and CP/M. You could mix the sizes but you had to have some of each
|
|
unless you did the drive by hand, that is, running 'BRUN INSTALL.PT4' and
|
|
right after hitting return hit either E or R, so that it's the next key
|
|
waiting in the buffer. If it's the right key you will get a menu that
|
|
allows you to bypass all the glitzy gory graphics and questions of the
|
|
Sider/Xebec Trustor software and get right to the partitioning. It's not
|
|
for the faint at heart. You need to figure the drive geometry and break it
|
|
down into sectors/tracks.
|
|
|
|
Tony
|
|
(T_DIAZ, 20406, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> SASI was the precursor of SCSI. At the hardware level it is almost
|
|
""""" identical to SCSI, but at the command level there are some
|
|
differences. (SASI = Shugart Associates System Interface, SCSI = Small
|
|
Computer System Interface)
|
|
|
|
-Harold
|
|
HdwrNut on EFNet and AIM
|
|
Posted by ProTERM Mac Messenger
|
|
The most damaging phrase in the language is: "It's always been done that
|
|
way."
|
|
(HAROLD_H, 20423, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
THE APPLESOFTAHOLIC ON NEW PRINT SHOP Several months ago I posted on csa2
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" an answer to a question about
|
|
copying New Print Shop from 5.25" discs onto 3.5" discs. I am also posting
|
|
the message here, in case anybody missed it on csa2.
|
|
|
|
Last summer a question was posted about transferring the New Print Shop
|
|
program from 5.25" discs onto a 3.5" disc. I have been experimenting with
|
|
this problem, and have successfully done such a transfer. Here is how I did
|
|
it.
|
|
|
|
First, format the 3.5" disc and name it NPS. Then, create 2 subdirectories
|
|
on the disc, whose names should be PS and PSL.DATA3. The PS subdirectory
|
|
will be for the program files, and the PSL.DATA3 subdirectory will be for
|
|
the graphics, fonts and borders. Now, set the prefix to PSL.DATA3, and
|
|
create 4 new subdirectories under PSL.DATA3. These 4 new subdirectories
|
|
will be named GRAPHICS, FONTS, BORDERS and USER.
|
|
|
|
Now you need to copy the program files from the 5.25" discs onto the 3.5"
|
|
disc. The program files are on the disc labelled PROGRAM DISC, and are on
|
|
both sides of the disc. Copy the files PRODOS and PS.SYSTEM onto the 3.5"
|
|
disc under the root directory. Copy all the files from both sides of the
|
|
disc, with the exception of PRODOS, onto the 3.5" disc under the
|
|
subdirectory PS. There will be some duplicates of files on side A and side
|
|
B.
|
|
|
|
Now you need to fix a few bytes in the PS.SYSTEM program. Since this
|
|
program was copied into 2 different places on the 3.5" disc, be sure to fix
|
|
it in both places. It is easiest to do the fix using a block editor, such
|
|
as ZAP in ProSel. However, you could also BLOAD the program, POKE in the
|
|
correct values, then BSAVE it back onto disc. Here are the bytes to be
|
|
fixed:
|
|
|
|
$06 & 07 - change to $01
|
|
$20 through 27 - change to $07 2F 4E 50 53 2F 50
|
|
|
|
The first change tells New Print Shop that it does not have to ask you to
|
|
flip the disc over for side A or side B to load program modules. The second
|
|
change tells New Print Shop that program modules are in the subdirectory
|
|
/NPS/PS.
|
|
|
|
Now you have to put all the New Print Shop graphics, fonts and borders onto
|
|
the 3.5" disc. These will all go under the subdirectory DATA DISC 2. Copy
|
|
all the files found in the GRAPHICS subdirectories of both sides of both
|
|
discs into the /NPS/PSL.DATA3/GRAPHICS subdirectory on the 3.5" disc. Copy
|
|
all the files from the FONTS directory on both sides of DATA DISC 1 into
|
|
the /NPS/PSL.DATA3/FONTS subdirectory. Copy all the files from the BORDERS
|
|
subdirectory on both sides of DATA DISC 1 into the /NPS/PSL.DATA3/BORDERS
|
|
subdirectory. The New Print Shop program has now been transferred from the
|
|
5.25" disc to the 3.5" disc.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Gerry Wright (the Applesoft-aholic)
|
|
gerrywright@delphi.com
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(GERRYWRIGHT, 20338, GO COM A2)
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BALLOON BUG LOCATED IN NEW ENGLAND I just found a serious bug in Balloon.
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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When extracting a file that already exists in the destination, it will pop
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up the usual "Rename/Skip/Overwrite" box. I clicked Skip, and the file was
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not extracted - but the existing file with that name was deleted.
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I had a directory and an archive of that directory. I thought the archive
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had a few extra files so I extracted everything, clicking Skip on those
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files that already existed. In the end I had an empty directory.
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-Ken
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(KEN_GAGNE, 20365, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> I found that one years ago. Diz was aware of it while he was still
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""""" on Genie. If it wasn't fixed then, and it wasn't, it is very
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unlikely to be fixed now. :(
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(CKNOBLO, 20416, GO COM A2)
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RYAN ON APPLE BRAND SCSI CARDS There are basically only two Apple branded
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" SCSI cards for the II:
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1) The Apple High Speed SCSI Card, and
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2) The Apple II SCSI Card, which is more commonly referred to as the Rev.
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C.
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Now, while there can be a Rev. A or Rev. B Apple II SCSI Card, the only
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difference is in the ROM chip, which could be updated for free by Apple
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some time ago. The last few times I've inquired, though, they insist they
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can't do it anymore. Whatever.
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Both will work fine and dandy with an enhanced //e or IIgs (provided it's
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not a Rev. A or Rev. B) and work well with SCSI hard drives. I haven't
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tried CDROMs with them, but with appropriate drivers, there's no reason
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they shouldn't work. . .
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-
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Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
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Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
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Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
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(RSUENAGA, 20482, GO COM A2)
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MUG! AUTHOR ON AHS SCSI ISSUES I too have a Zip and AHS SCSI card. I
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" haven't yet upgraded to the Tulin drivers,
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although some day I must get around to it. There are a few comments worth
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making here.
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1. It is not so much the card that is the problem, but the GS/OS drivers
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for it. (Not too surprising when it can be fixed with new drivers!)
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2. In ProDOS 8, as far as I can tell there isn't a problem at all because
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the card is using the ROM drivers on the card itself. This is a very good
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thing when I'm downloading files in ProTerm!
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3. Again as far as I can tell, the problem with the GS/OS driver is very
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simple. The SCSI time-out value set by the driver (1/4 second?) is too low.
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(In fact, I've had cause to regret the low value on other occasions in the
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past.) When the drive "wakes up", the first SCSI call has to wait while the
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drive spins up, and the time-out value is exceeded. I had a brief look one
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time but I never did find the location in the driver where the time-out is
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set.
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The really frustrating part is that a timeout error doesn't seem to be
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handled all that well by GS/OS. The system "sort-of" knows it got an error,
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but somehow "isn't sure", so that all sorts of weirdness can happen. For
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example, GS/OS may decide that the root directory has been damaged, when in
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fact a reboot shows that nothing is wrong. OTOH, I *have* lost a root
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directory on some occasions. :-(
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One rule of thumb I have is to eject and reinsert the disk if I have come
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back from ProDOS 8, or if I think the disk has gone to sleep under GS/OS.
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The workarounds have pretty much become automatic for me, but I really must
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get the Tulin drivers one day...
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--
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Peter Watson
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-- Write to MSDOS disks on the Apple IIgs?
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-- Impossible! ;-)
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(PETERWATSON, 20788, GO COM A2)
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THE VALUE OF SHAREWARE This evening I had a really fun time with my
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"""""""""""""""""""""" 9-year-old. Ian's class is starting an
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introduction to astronomy (stars, planets, the moon, etc.). It just
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happened that the current issue of Discover magazine, in the regular column
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about stargazing, has a very good description of viewing the planets in the
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early evening sky at this time of year. I was driving home this evening
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with Lady Technophobe, and saw the planets lined up as described in the
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article. I took Ian out and showed him how Jupiter was aligned with Venus
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on the horizon, and then...
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We went inside and I fired up Tonight's Sky. I showed him how the program
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could display what we'd seen in the western sky, and how the planets would
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move with time. We then opened the article, and changed the dates in
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Tonight's Sky to match those in the text. I was able to display and print
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western sky views that corresponded with the descriptions in the text.
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Two years ago, there was a conjunction of the planets. I used Tonight's
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Sky to show the kids how they were coming 'closer' every night.
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Last year, one of my boys had a Physics lab to do, in which he had to go
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outside every two hours and plot where the stars were. Problem was, it
|
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was total overcast for about a week! I fired up Tonight's Sky, changed the
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times and printed the results. There was enough detail in the printouts to
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pick out 'clusters' of stars, and to plot their movement. He was the only
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kid in the class with anything to show for that lab. (OTOH - he failed
|
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Physics miserably last year. Did well this year, tho')
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It's amazing what the author has packed into this program, and how accurate
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it is. It's one of those programs that I feel is worth every cent of the
|
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Shareware fee I paid...
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(DZAHNISER, 20702, GO COM A2)
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WORKING ON THE IMAGEWRITER II To run self-test:
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
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1) Hold down the FormFeed button, then, while holding it, turn it on.
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2) After it has finished its little resetting, release the FormFeed.
|
|
3) It will automatically run the self-test (continuously)
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To adjust print darkness:
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1) Before printing anything, and with the printer ON.
|
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2) Press the SELECT button. The green light will go out.
|
|
3) The PRINT QUALITY light is actually two lights. It defaults to fast.
|
|
4) Pressing PRINT QUALITY once will be for a slower and more dense
|
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printing.
|
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5) Pressing it again will not only slow further, but make a double pass.
|
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6) After setting the PRINT QUALITY, press SELECT to put the printer back
|
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online.
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You can also increase the density of the printing by using Bold Face, if it
|
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is available, in your program.
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CHunk_S
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Your A2 Forum Host (go com a2)
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Visit us at: <http://forums.delphi.com/m/main.asp?sigdir=apple2>
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Delivered by OLRight! (v4.0) scripts for ANSITerm for the Apple IIgs
|
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(CHUNK_S, 20848, GO COM A2)
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RUMOR MILL
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""""""""""
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IMPROVING ON THE PAST: ANOTHER APPLE II CD ROM? In brief, what I was
|
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" referring to was
|
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unnecessary duplication of files.
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|
|
If you're telling me that you think that the Apple II community has to
|
|
choose between getting it finished, and getting it done right, I won't
|
|
argue. But that doesn't mean I have to like it.
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|
|
I recommend you read my reply to Udo, answering the question, "What was
|
|
wrong with the AUGE CD anyway?" The answer is: "Not much"... but it had
|
|
been my hope that a Genie-based CD would avoid the pitfalls of earlier CDs,
|
|
rather than charging ahead and making them all over again.
|
|
|
|
A collection, to my mind, is more than just a dump of everything one has on
|
|
hand. One has to keep in mind the cumulative effect--how will it look to
|
|
the new arrival who has never seen the collection before, and doesn't
|
|
realize it was accumulated over time?
|
|
|
|
- Some may say that Genie is already mostly pre-vetted anyway. I agree, but
|
|
would like to see it quickly re-vetted if possible.
|
|
|
|
- Some may say that they want all released versions--that they don't want
|
|
just v1.0 and v3.1, they want all the versions in between as well. I
|
|
agree; I just don't want two copies of v2.2.
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|
|
- Some may argue that they want it "warts and all". I understand that
|
|
point of view too, but feel it could be balanced with "tidying" as opposed
|
|
to "editing".
|
|
|
|
My point was, and is, a good CD would be more than just a dump of all the
|
|
files in the Genie library. Anthologies need editors. Editors need
|
|
assistants. I was pleading to be one of the assistants--but I'll withdraw
|
|
that plea if it's going to sink the project.
|
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|
Doug ("They don't want it good; they want it Thursday.") C.
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|
(D_CUFF, 20670, GO COM A2)
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<<<<< I thought the AUGE CD was a fine amateur effort, and recommend its
|
|
""""" purchase--if anyone can find one for sale second-hand. But the
|
|
nature of that CD was bound to create some problems. (For those reading
|
|
that don't know the CD, the AUGE CD was a collection of "disk of the
|
|
month"s.)
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|
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|
My biggest problem with the AUGE CD is that the disk GS.Utilities.03 (Disk
|
|
062) simply does not appear on the CD. The files that appear in that
|
|
directory are a duplicate copy of one of the Pictures disks--GS.Pics.05
|
|
(Disk 067). Quality control would have prevented such an error.
|
|
|
|
An inevitable problem with the CD is duplication: CDA.ADB on GS.CDAs.01 and
|
|
GS.CDAs.02; PACMAN on GS.NDAs.03 and GS.NDAs.04; SPELLBINDER 1.00 on
|
|
GS.Games.02 and GS.Games.16. These are just the duplications I've noticed
|
|
when using the disk; I haven't checked it systematically. There's also
|
|
quite a lot of duplication in the collections of sound files, and some
|
|
duplication in the collections of picture files, but I can't quote you
|
|
chapter and verse here.
|
|
|
|
Of course, some of this is inevitable since the disks were compiled over a
|
|
long time. And the CD has to be this way if it is to accurately represent
|
|
the AUGE collection. I understand that. But it does point up the fact
|
|
that the AUGE CD was an amateur effort.
|
|
|
|
I don't want to do without amateur efforts--I'm very very pleased that AUGE
|
|
made copies of their collection for their members to buy, and then let the
|
|
rest of us buy too. All I'm saying is that the AUGE CD can be frustrating
|
|
to use sometimes, because it could have been an appreciably better CD if it
|
|
had been possible to eliminate the duplication.
|
|
|
|
That wasn't possible in the case of the AUGE CD for historical reasons.
|
|
Fair enough. But let's learn from the mistakes of previous CDs, please,
|
|
before another one is released?
|
|
|
|
Doug C.
|
|
(D_CUFF, 20671, GO COM A2)
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|
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|
|
WHEN IS ANIMASIA 3D SHOWING UP ON DELPHI? A3D will be uploaded to Delphi,
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" eventually. It will also be
|
|
available on Tony Diaz's apple2.org Web site in the near future.
|
|
|
|
Two things are delaying this: 1) I have trouble uploading/downloading to
|
|
Delphi. My 8-bit connection through Genie is very slow, and the A3D files
|
|
are very big (four of them at no less than 460K each). 2) I was intending
|
|
to wait until the manual/documentation files are also ready to go through
|
|
the process. A3D isn't particularly useful, at least not for any projects,
|
|
without the docs.
|
|
|
|
That said, I promise to get the A3D archives uploaded here very soon. They
|
|
are already available on Genie, and have been for several weeks. My
|
|
connection there is faster and more reliable.
|
|
|
|
I believe the manual archives will be reconstructed soon. An Apple II
|
|
colleague of mine, Gareth Jones, has been working on alternative methods
|
|
for presenting the manuals. (How does a collection of !Help! files sound?)
|
|
But this is a big job, and takes some time.
|
|
|
|
You will definitely have fun playing with this program. I hope to get some
|
|
time to learn more about it (and write an in-depth review) in a few months.
|
|
|
|
Max Jones
|
|
Juiced.GS
|
|
http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs
|
|
(JUICEDGS, 20430, GO COM A2)
|
|
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|
|
PUBLIC POSTINGS
|
|
"""""""""""""""
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KANSASFEST 1999--YOUR MOMENT OF TRUTH
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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|
|
( ) ( ) ____________________________________________
|
|
| | / / ( _____________________________'99____)
|
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| | / / | |
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|
| |/ / | | II Infinitum!!
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| / | |______
|
|
| |\ \ | _______) __________ ________ ________
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| | \ \ | | ( _____) ( ___) (__ __)
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| | \ \ | | | |_____ ___\ \ | |
|
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(______) (________) (_______) (__________) (_________) |___|
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Experience The Magic!!
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When: July 21-25, 1999
|
|
Where: Avila College, Kansas City, Missouri
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|
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+++
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KFest is back ... and it's never been more affordable!
|
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|
|
Check out these rates, which include room and meals from Wednesday evening
|
|
(dinner) on July 21, through Sunday morning (breakfast) on July 25.
|
|
(Saturday evening dinner not included. That's Kfesters' Night Out On The
|
|
Town!)
|
|
|
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+++ Early Bird rates (good if you register BEFORE April 15) +++
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Double room: $225
|
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Single room: $275
|
|
Spouse rate (in case you want to bring that special person along): $175
|
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Registration only (no dorm room or meals): $175
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+++ Regular Attendee rates (if you register AFTER April 15) +++
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Double room: $275
|
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Single room: $325
|
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Spouse rate (in case you want to bring that special person along): $225
|
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Registration only (no dorm room or meals): $225
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|
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Those cool Kfest T-shirts will also be available again this year for $15,
|
|
but ONLY if you order in advance. (See registration form below.)
|
|
|
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+++ Special Early Arrivals rate +++
|
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|
|
For the very first time, Kfest will start early for those who'd like to
|
|
arrive a little sooner. Avila dorms will be available for occupancy on
|
|
Tuesday night for a small extra fee. No formal activities will be planned,
|
|
although the day may include the annual trek to KC Masterpiece Restaurant
|
|
for some of that world-famous Kansas City barbecue!
|
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|
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The rate for early arrivals (Tuesday night dorm room only):
|
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Double room: $25
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Single room: $33
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For attendees planning to arrive at the normal time on Wednesday, check-in
|
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will be on from 1-4 pm. Check-out will be from 11 am-1 pm on Sunday.
|
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|
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Current plans call for formal Kfest sessions to begin with dinner in the
|
|
Avila cafeteria on Wednesday evening (time to be announced), followed by
|
|
the traditional opening event, the Kfest Keynote Address. We've got some
|
|
great plans for that opening night activity. Stay tuned!!
|
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|
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Computer sessions will be conducted on Thursday and Friday. Software and
|
|
hardware demos are scheduled for Saturday morning, with a vendor fair
|
|
slated for Saturday afternoon.
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|
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Reminder: Meals included in the registration price are Wednesday dinner
|
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through Sunday breakfast, with the exception of Saturday dinner.
|
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|
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On Saturday night, attendees can dine on their own at one of the many fine
|
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restaurants near the Avila campus, or join groups of Kfesters at Jess &
|
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Jim's Steak House or other local favorites.
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All children under 18 years must be accompanied by a parent or legal
|
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guardian.
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***
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KFest this year is again being sponsored by InTrec Software, Inc., makers
|
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of ProTERM telecommunications software for the Apple II and Macintosh.
|
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If you have questions about KFest, or wish to make suggestions, you can
|
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find answers via the Internet. Just send an email message to:
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kfest-help@kfest.org
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|
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.. or visit the Kfest World Wide Web page at:
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http://www.kfest.org
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If you're thinking about attending Kfest '99, please join the Kfest
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internet e-mail chat:
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|
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To subscribe to the Kfest Information Mailing List, send email to
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majordomo@kfest.org. In the BODY of the message, place the following text:
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subscribe kfest
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You will receive a confirmation email. In order to be signed up for the
|
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list, you will have to respond to this confirmation as the instructions
|
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dictate. You will then be able send and read messages on the mailing list.
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KFest '99 Registration Form
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View and print this document using 9-point Monaco font (ProTERM default)
|
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or any other monospaced font such as Courier, CoPilot or Spectrum.
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Register for Kfest '99
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By phone, fax or email: Credit card number
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<> Complete this form and select one option:
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Send this form via email to: <kfest@intrec.com>
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Call the InTrec sales office: 602/992-5515
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Fax this form: 602/992-0232
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<> By postal mail: Credit card, check or money order.
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Print, fill out, and mail this form with payment.
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Checks and money orders must be on a USA bank and USA compatible funds.
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Registration Cost Check Applicable
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Early Bird rates (before April 15)
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Double $225 [ ]
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Single $275 [ ]
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Spouse only $175 [ ]
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Off campus $175 [ ]
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Regular rates (after April 15 and at the door)
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Double room $275 [ ]
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Conference only $225 [ ]
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Early Arrival rates
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Double $25 [ ]
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Single $33 [ ]
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T-Shirts $15 ea
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May we send your Kfest registration confirmation via email? [ ]Yes [ ]No
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If NO, how can we contact you for
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confirmation?:__________________________
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InTrec Software, Inc.
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3035 E Topaz Circle
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Phoenix, AZ 85028-4423
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Voc:602/992-1345
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Fax:602/992-0232
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<kfest@intrec.com>
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<http://www.intrec.com/a2.html/kfest.txt>
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---[ End of Form ]-----------[ Cut Here ]---------[ Print Clearly ]---
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(JUICEDGS, 20589, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> Thanks for posting the KFest registration information. I hope that
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""""" everyone shares this with their local users group or anyone else
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that might be interested in attending KFest '99.
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A few notes:
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We are able to check into the dorm on Tuesday, but there will be no
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official KFest activities until Wednesday evening.
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The "spouse rate" is for people that will be staying in the dorm and eating
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the wonderful Avila cafeteria food, but not attending any sessions. (This
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is good for parents of minors too.)
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There is also a reduced rate for locals, or people that prefer staying in a
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motel, but will be attending sessions. The only meal on this plan is the
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Friday night roast.
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The Big Cheese
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(CINDYADAMS, 20659, GO COM A2)
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NEW UPDATES FROM SHEPPY Two new software updates in the SheppyWare Apple
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""""""""""""""""""""""" IIgs collection!
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Shifty List 2.0.2
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-----------------
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This update provides a revised installer that (finally) works correctly
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even if there's a badly-installed Shifty List already in place, or if
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Shifty List was partially blown away by a system software reinstall. You
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can download the update, or get more information, by visiting
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<http://www.sheppyware.net/software/shiftylist_gs/>.
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WebWorks GS 1.2.1
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-----------------
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This update fixes a memory leak that would cause you to lose a large block
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of memory every time you quit WebWorks GS after using the HTML preview
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feature. You can get more information about WebWorks GS, and download the
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update, by visiting <http://www.sheppyware.net/software/webworks_gs/>.
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Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
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Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum
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(SHEPPY, 20079, GO COM A2)
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GSAIM 1.0 RELEASED Get Connected On Your Apple IIgs!
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"""""""""""""""""" gsAIM 1.0 Now Available
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gsAIM, the Apple IIgs AOL Instant Messenger-compatible NDA, has been
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released! This $10 shareware desk accessory lets you carry on up to 20
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one-on-one conversations with friends or colleagues, right on your Apple
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IIgs desktop. All you need is an AOL account, a free AIM account, System
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6.0.1, and Marinetti 2.0 (with a working connection to an ISP, of course).
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You can try a limited version of gsAIM -- without support for saving buddy
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lists or your preferences -- by visiting
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<http://www.sheppyware.net/software/gsAIM/>. After you've tried it, just
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fill out the included registration form and mail it in, or visit my online
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ordering page at <http://order.kagi.com/?QGC> to pay the fee by credit card
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online.
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Note to users that have already registered the software: your current
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registration code SHOULD still work; if it doesn't, email your old code to
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me, along with your gsAIM serial number (as displayed in the gsAIM 1.0
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"Please Register" window, and I'll email your new code to you). Please read
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the documentation; your current preference files need to be moved to a new
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location, or you'll lose your settings and your buddy list.
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If you have questions about gsAIM, don't hesitate to email me:
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sheppy@sheppyware.net.
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(I'll be uploading gsAIM 1.0 to Delphi shortly)
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Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
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sheppy@sheppyware.net
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http://www.sheppyware.net
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(SHEPPY, 20783, GO COM A2)
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<<<<< I need to correct that release slightly:
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"""""
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It implies that you need both a real AOL account and an AOL Instant
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Messenger account. That's not the case. You need one OR the other. You can
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get an AIM account (that you can use with gsAIM) for free at
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www.aim.aol.com.
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Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
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sheppy@sheppyware.net
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http://www.sheppyware.net
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(SHEPPY, 20797, GO COM A2)
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JUICED.GS EXPLODES INTO 1999 GreetinGS!
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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In about one month, Juiced.GS, the galaxy's premier IIgs-specific printed
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publication, will begin its fourth year of service to the Apple II world.
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Do not doubt that 1999 will be another great year for the IIgs community,
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and for Juiced.GS.
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As so many of our subscribers tell us, Juiced.GS just keeps getting better
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and better.
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How so, you ask?
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Judge for yourself. Here are some highlights of the past year:
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-- Juiced.GS ... enlisted the able assistance of Apple II experts Bret
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Victor and Dave Tribby to teach users more about making music on their
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IIgses.
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-- ... introduced the Apple II community to the work of Louis Cornelio, a
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San Diego educator who keeps the IIgs spirit alive in his high school
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classroom, and maintains an impressive presence on the World Wide Web.
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-- ... attended Kfest '98 and was the fist printed publication to offer a
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complete, firsthand report of news and dramatic product unveilings that
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occurred there.
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-- ... was the first to publish in-depth reviews of new products such as
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SuperConvert 4.0, NiftySpell, WebWorks GS, GraphicWriter III 2.1, Disk
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Access II, and GSoft BASIC.
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-- ... launched a quarterly telecommunications column by Tony Ward to help
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users of all levels get more productivity and enjoyment from their online
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time and effort.
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-- ... introduced an ongoing series of articles/tutorials by Eric Shepherd
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about GSoft BASIC that serves the needs of both novice and advanced users.
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That series will continue well into 1999.
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-- ... in conjunction with Mike Westerfield and the Byte Works, placed a
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copy of "GSoft BASIC: The Free Version" into the hands of each and every
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subscriber (275 of them), so they could follow along with Shepherd's GSoft
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articles and learn more about this cool new programming language.
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-- ... played a key role in working with Michael Lutynski to reclassify the
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dynamic program Animasia 3-D as shareware and make it available to the IIgs
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|
community.
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-- ... continued to offer inexpensive disk compilations for special order
|
|
from readers so that everyone can have access to such fabulous new software
|
|
as Babelfish, Wolfenstein 3D, GShisen, Animasia 3-D, Fontpimp, Desktop
|
|
Alarm, Marinetti and Twilight II 2.0.
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Indeed, Juiced.GS had a great year. (See samples of last year's product on
|
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our Web site. The URL is listed below.) And in case you missed it, The Lamp
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|
(the cool digital newsletter centered on Delphi) named our magazine the
|
|
best Apple II publication of the year!
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We certainly appreciate such recognition, but don't expect us to rest on
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our laurels. We're hard at work to make sure 1999 will be just as good, or
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|
even better!
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In 1999, you will read more from Eric Shepherd about GSoft BASIC; be wowed
|
|
by a stunning hardware discovery from Geoff Weiss; and learn more about the
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rich and colorful of history of AppleWorks Classic from Gareth Jones.
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What's more, Juiced.GS will strive in 1999 to become the ultimate authority
|
|
and news source on the rapidly expanding area of IIgs emulation. Look for
|
|
an introductory article from Ryan Suenaga on the meteoric rise of the
|
|
"Virtual GS" in the upcoming issue -- Volume 4, Issue 1 -- due out in mid
|
|
March.
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|
Juiced.GS will, of course, be in Kansas City for Kfest '99. And as new
|
|
products and upgrades are released throughout the year, you can count on us
|
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being right there to report the news and present reviews.
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Renewals have been coming in since the final issue of 1998 was published,
|
|
and we're getting a number of new subscribers as well. But if you haven't
|
|
yet renewed, or have been putting off subscribing, now is the time to move
|
|
ahead and become part of the Juiced.GS gang.
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A 1999 subscription is $14 in the U.S., Canada and Mexico; $20 elsewhere in
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the world.
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As a special promotion, new 1999 subscribers will get the final issue of
|
|
1998 FREE. (That issue contains the first GSoft BASIC tutorial/article and
|
|
a copy of GSoft BASIC: The FREE Version.)
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To subscribe or renew, send $14 ($20 overseas) in U.S. funds to:
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|
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Max Jones
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Juiced.GS
|
|
2217 Lakeview Drive
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Sullivan, IN 47882
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We're working hard to keep the Apple II community alive and well. Please
|
|
join us. And when you do, we believe you'll find that with us ...
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"Apple II Forever!"
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|
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.. is more than just a slogan.
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Max Jones
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Juiced.GS
|
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http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs
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(JUICEDGS, 20390, GO COM A2)
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MARINETTI AUTHOR ON THE MOVE Over the next month or so, I'll be moving
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" house, so apart from spending even less time
|
|
online than I have been the past few months, that means my address will
|
|
also be changing.
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If you have an address for me, then please email me the address you have.
|
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I'll email you the new one.
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If you have my P.O. box address, then that's OK, because it won't be
|
|
changing.
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|
Thanks,
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|
Richard
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(RICHARD_B, 20649, GO COM A2)
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SIS 1.1 FEATURES ON THE WEB The SevenHills Web Site has been updated to
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""" provide the new features and improvements in
|
|
SIS 1.1. The URL for this information is:
|
|
http://www.sevenhills.com/applesoftware/iigs/sis/sisv11.htm
|
|
(SISGEOFF, 20738, GO COM A2)
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BEST OF THE BEST
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""""""""""""""""
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20477 16-FEB 00:44 Telecommunications
|
|
RE: Modem cable (Re: Msg 20476)
|
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From: JBLAKENEY To: UDOHUTH
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|
I continue to use communications programs on my IIgs because I much prefer
|
|
to use my IIgs to using my Windows machine. It is much more pleasurable
|
|
and less stress inducing.
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|
Secondly, and probably more importantly, it is more convenient for me to do
|
|
so. It is much nicer to download/upload files directly to/from my IIgs.
|
|
It saves me having to null-modem stuff to my Pentium II before/after the
|
|
transfer.
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|
It also makes more sense to me to deal with Apple II related messages using
|
|
my Apple II. Keep in mind that most of my online activities revolve around
|
|
the Apple II. My Pentium II is used for work and for those 3D shoot-em-up
|
|
games. My IIgs is also used for some work and games as well as pretty much
|
|
everything else I do.
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|
Why do I use my IIgs for so much when I have a much faster machine sitting
|
|
beside it? Because I already own and know how to use the programs that I
|
|
have on my IIgs and they get the job done for me.
|
|
|
|
Jeff Blakeney - Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro
|
|
** HyperCard IIgs Course now in session! **
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[EOA]
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|
[A2P]------------------------------
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A2Pro_DUCTIVITY |
|
|
-----------------------------------
|
|
Checking out A2PRO on Delphi
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
|
|
[thelamp@sheppyware.net]
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|
MORE ON FOUNDATION SOURCE As I recall, Marc released source to Genie,
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""" though I don't think anything ever came of it.
|
|
Do you know whether the source may be uploaded to Delphi? And do you know
|
|
someone who has a copy?
|
|
|
|
Yours
|
|
Soenke
|
|
(SBEHRENS, 2454, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> I have the source. It's incomplete and mostly useless as it stands
|
|
""""" because key low-level portions of the code were never released. I
|
|
tried for two years to get the rest of the code but never could. It's very
|
|
unfortunate.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
|
|
Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum
|
|
(SHEPPY, 2455, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
<<<<< too bad. Foundation could have been a really nice thing ... oh
|
|
""""" well. Was a reason given for not releasing the entire code?
|
|
|
|
Yours
|
|
Soenke
|
|
(SBEHRENS, 2456, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> Marc Wolfgram released the code he had. Jim Murphy had the rest of
|
|
""""" it, and he never got around to uploading it anywhere.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
|
|
Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum
|
|
(SHEPPY, 2459, GO COM A2)
|
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|
BERNIE AUTHOR PATCHES TOOLBOX, FILM AT 11 I'm having big trouble with a
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" toolbox patch.
|
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|
|
I have installed a toolbox patch (successfully...and yes, the address is
|
|
one less :), but what I see on the stack does not correspond to what I'm
|
|
expecting. here's the situation:
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|
|
the toolbox call (input parms) has the form:
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|
|
return parameter (long)
|
|
input parameter (word, =0)
|
|
|
|
When I do a tsc stal brk right at the very beginning of my function to see
|
|
where the stack pointer is, I take that value and check the memory which
|
|
returns:
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03 2D 01 FE 9E 9B 0B 00 00 00 00 00 00
|
|
|
|
I can't explain that the first four bytes are. I would expect that the
|
|
stack pointer was pointing at the 9E 9B 0B instead which is the rtl
|
|
address. The six zeroes afterwards match the input and return values.
|
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|
|
I have looked at the stack diagram in Appendix A Toolbox Ref 2, and it
|
|
clearly states that the stack pointer is pointing at the rtl address when
|
|
my toolbox function is called. Looking at the stack, I can't confirm this.
|
|
What am I missing?
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|
Thanks a lot!!
|
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- henrik
|
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(GUDATH, 2461, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> Keep in mind that there are TWO return addresses on the stack when
|
|
""""" your toolbox function is called, not one. That's because the
|
|
Toolbox provides that auxiliary entry point that provides for a call to a
|
|
dispatch subroutine. Very few people use DISPATCH2 ($E1/0004), but it's
|
|
there. Because of that, DISPATCH ($E1/0000) adds a second return address to
|
|
the stack, so the stack is consistent regardless of which dispatch vector
|
|
was used.
|
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|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
|
|
Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum
|
|
(SHEPPY, 2464, GO COM A2)
|
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|
|
LOCALTALK TO ETHERNET SOLUTIONS? My latest MacWarehouse (UK) catalogue
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" shows a new product from Asante. It is
|
|
called AsanteTalk (Part #99-00505-03), and connects Ethernet to up to 8
|
|
AppleTalk machines or printers.
|
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|
|
It also says it includes all necessary cables, which presumably means that
|
|
it is acting as a form of hub for the 8 AppleTalk devices.
|
|
|
|
They are primarily promoting it that it can connect an iMac to other Macs
|
|
etc., but presumably we could use it to the IIgs AppleTalk port.
|
|
|
|
Whether this is any answer to our IIgs Ethernet problem, I don't know...
|
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|
The cost in the UK is GBP85, so I would expect it to be around $100 in the
|
|
States.
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Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 9 Feb 1999 - 162 days till KFest '99
|
|
Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 2.6
|
|
Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing on a PowerMac 8200/120
|
|
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
|
|
(EWANNOP, 2472, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> I found it more cost effective to get a $30 SE/30 from Goodwill and
|
|
""""" an Ethernet Card I had lying around, then using Apple's LocalTalk
|
|
Bridge to get it working. . . problem is that the software isn't easy to
|
|
find, and neither is a good deal on a compact Mac with Ethernet card.
|
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|
-
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Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
|
|
Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
|
|
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
|
|
(RSUENAGA, 2473, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> I'll point out that MacIP does not work across LocalTalk Bridge, so
|
|
""""" if you want to do Internet across LocalTalk to an Ethernet, you
|
|
have to use a hardware solution.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
|
|
Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum
|
|
(SHEPPY, 2476, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> Last I checked, Vicom didn't provide a LocalTalk to Ethernet
|
|
""""" bridge (I could be wrong). But it's a $300 or more piece of
|
|
software too. You can get an EtherWave adapter for way less than that (even
|
|
at retail pricing, you can get it for $150 or less), and it doesn't drain
|
|
resources from a server that's bridging the networks.
|
|
|
|
LocalTalk Bridge works great for AppleShare and printing, just not for
|
|
MacIP. If you don't need MacIP support, it's a really good way to go
|
|
(especially since it's free :).
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
|
|
Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum
|
|
(SHEPPY, 2479, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> Farallon has (or had, last I looked) LocalTalk Bridge available for
|
|
""""" download free on their web site. Apple no longer supports it, and
|
|
in fact it's slightly broken on Mac OS 8.5 (if you switch from Printer Port
|
|
to Ethernet in AppleTalk control panel with LTB active, the system will
|
|
crash). But it still works otherwise.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
|
|
sheppy@sheppyware.net
|
|
http://www.sheppyware.net
|
|
(SHEPPY, 2485, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
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|
|
GNO PROGRAMMING ALLOWED The first general release of the GNO Base
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""" Distribution since GNO 2.0.4 is now available.
|
|
See http://www.gno.org/~gno for details.
|
|
|
|
While there are still many things left to be done for the GNO Base
|
|
Distribution, this is the first publicly available version of GNO 2.0.6
|
|
that is fully runnable.
|
|
|
|
Note that the 15 February 1999 release does not include networking support.
|
|
|
|
You assistance in making GNO better would be appreciated. Even if you are
|
|
not a programmer, your feedback is valuable. Problems and recommendations
|
|
should be made via the GNO Bugs database at
|
|
http://www.gno.org/~gno/bugs.html. Discussion should, as usual, take place
|
|
on either the USENET newsgroup
|
|
|
|
comp.sys.apple2.gno
|
|
|
|
or the Delphi Programmers' Forum at
|
|
|
|
http://forums.delphi.com/m/main.asp?sigdir=a2pro
|
|
|
|
Now that the mechanisms are in place for automated builds, you can expect
|
|
GNO updates on a more regular basis.
|
|
|
|
My thanks goes out to the GNO-Devel team and everyone else who have
|
|
provided assistance and feedback.
|
|
|
|
Devin Reade
|
|
15 February 1999
|
|
(GLYNREADE, 2489, GO COM A2)
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MIKE WESTERFIELD TO TEACH GSOFT COURSE ON DELPHI Take control of your
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Apple IIGS with GSoft
|
|
BASIC!
|
|
|
|
You've heard the old-timers talking about how they got started on Applesoft
|
|
BASIC, grabbing control of their machine and teaching it to work their way.
|
|
Now you can learn how to take control of your Apple IIGS using a modern,
|
|
supported version of BASIC that has all the features the early Apple II
|
|
programmers only dreamed about!
|
|
|
|
Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC starts right here on Delphi on March 1st in
|
|
the A2Pro chat area. You'll learn GSoft BASIC from the author of the most
|
|
widely used programming tools on the Apple IIGS, then and now, Mike
|
|
Westerfield. He's also the author of the text for the course, a new
|
|
self-paced tutorial book called Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC.
|
|
|
|
The course is divided into fourteen lessons, which cover the entire
|
|
Advanced Placement Computer Science curriculum. You'll learn the BASIC
|
|
programming language and the essential programming skills you need to write
|
|
real programs--skills like sorting, searching, managing stacks, and
|
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manipulating trees.
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Each week we'll meet in the Delphi chat room to discuss any problems you're
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having, expand on the materials in the book, and cover any questions you
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have that the book doesn't deal with. We'll cover one lesson a week, but
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you're free to work ahead, and you can keep coming if you fall a bit
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behind, too.
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Prerequisites: None.
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Workload: Expect to spend 2 to 6 hours per week on the course,
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depending on your background. Check on www.delphi.com,
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A2Pro chat area, on February 22nd for the first week's
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assignment.
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Cost: None. (But there is a required text. See Text, below.)
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Hardware and software requirements:
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1. Apple IIGS with 1.125M of RAM and a 3.5" floppy disk drive.
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A hard drive and 4M of RAM are nice, but not actually necessary.
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2. A printer is nice, but not required.
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3. A color display is nice, but not required.
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4. System 6.0.1.
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5. GSoft BASIC. You can buy the commercial version or download
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the free one; either will work for this course. Visit
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http://www.hypermall.com/byteworks for either version. You
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can also purchase the commercial version directly from the
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Byte Works, Inc. Contact information appears at the end of
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this letter.
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Text: Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC, available from
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the Byte Works, Inc.
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Cost: $50; $40 to those signed up for the Delphi course. Shipping
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is $5 in the US and Canada. Contact the publisher for
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shipping charges to other locations.
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Contents: 240 page self-paced tutorial with problems, solution disk.
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Chapters:
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Getting Started
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Variables and Loops
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Input, Loops and Conditions
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Subroutines
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Arrays
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Types and Constants
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Files
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Pointers and Lists
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Miscellaneous Useful Stuff
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Scanning Text
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Recursion
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Sorts
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Searches and Trees
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You can purchase Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC from the Byte Works, Inc.
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The expected ship date is February 15th, 1999.
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If you have questions about the Delphi course, GSoft BASIC, or Learn to
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Program in GSoft BASIC, contact the Byte Works, Inc.
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Byte Works, Inc.
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8000 Wagon Mound Dr. NW
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Albuquerque, NM 87120
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Voice: (505) 898-8183
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FAX: (505) 898-4092
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E-mail: MikeW50@aol.com
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Web Site: http://www.hypermall.com/byteworks
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(JBLAKENEY, 2491, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> Due to a problem with printing the course text, I'm bumping the
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""""" starting date to March 8th rather than March 1st.
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The course text should be back from the printer sometime this week. If
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you'd like to order your copy now, feel free--we're taking orders, and will
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mail them as soon as we get the books back.
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When you order, be sure to let us know if you're using the free version or
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the commercial version. If you're registered, we'll figure out that you own
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the commercial version, but if you're not registered, we need to get that
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straightened out. We'll be sending free updates out with each order for the
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course. If you've never bought the course and don't have GSoft BASIC, the
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FREE Version!, we'll send you a copy of the free version automatically.
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Mike Westerfield
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(BYTEWORKS, 2498, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> Check out http://www.hypermall.com/byteworks for lots of details
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""""" about the course, GSoft BASIC, and support materials. You'll find
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information about:
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1. The course text, Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC.
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2. GSoft BASIC, both the commercial and free versions.
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3. ORCA/Debugger, which you might find useful while working through the
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course.
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4. Details on how to order products like the course text from us. Drop me a
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note or post here if you have questions.
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Mike Westerfield
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(BYTEWORKS, 2499, GO COM A2)
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GSOFT 1.2 RELEASED Version 1.2 of GSoft BASIC, the newest Apple IIGS
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"""""""""""""""""" language from the Byte Works, is now available.
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Version 1.2 fixes several bugs and adds a few new features to GSoft BASIC
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1.1.
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The new features include a HEX$ command for converting numbers to
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hexadecimal format; two new pragmas for blocking CTRL-C interrupts while a
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program runs, and blocking tool errors when a program completes; support
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for named labels instead of just line numbers; the ability to jump out of a
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structured statement; support for type characters in tool interface files;
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and optional parameters for the RENUMBER command.
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Registered owners of GSoft BASIC can get the upgrade free when they order
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any other product from the Byte Works, Inc. If you are not ordering another
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product, you can still get the upgrade worldwide for a $5 shipping and
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handling charge.
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GSoft BASIC, The FREE Version! has also been updated. You can download
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GSoft BASIC, The FREE Version! Version 1.2 from the Byte Works web site.
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Check out all the details, including the upcoming GSoft BASIC course on
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Delphi, on our web site at http://www.hypermall.com/byteworks.
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(BYTEWORKS, 2502, GO COM A2)
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[EOA]
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[TVT]------------------------------
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THE VIRTUAL ][ |
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-----------------------------------
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Sheppy's ImageMaker Boosts Bernie's Bones
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
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[thelamp@sheppyware.net]
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IMAGEMAKER MAKES SETTING UP BERNIE A BREEZE FOR CURRENT IIGS USERS
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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In the December issue of _The Lamp!_, we took a look at how to move
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your IIgs hard drives over to your Power Macintosh running a copy of
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_Bernie ][ The Rescue_ using Zip Drives or other removable large storage
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media. Since then, one of the most prolific Apple II programmers of recent
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times, Eric Shepherd, aka Sheppy, has released a new program that makes
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this older method obsolete and requires nothing in the way of additional
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hardware. His new program, _ImageMaker_, can take RAMdisks, floppy disks,
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or hard disks attached to your IIgs and turn them into usable images for
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Bernie to bone up with.
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_ImageMaker_ is a $5 IIgs shareware product. With it, you can create
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two types of images: DiskCopy 4.2, which is a standard disk image intended
|
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for floppy diskettes on the Macintosh (these images are limited by the
|
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DiskCopy format to 800k and 1440k disks), and Universal Disk Image, which
|
|
is a disk image format that has become popular with Apple II emulators,
|
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including _Bernie_. Neither of these formats are compressed, so you can
|
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figure an image of an 800k diskette actually taking up a slight bit more
|
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space than 800k, for instance.
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The advantage of using DiskCopy images is that they can actually be
|
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read by your Macintosh as disks and written back to real disks. The major
|
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disadvantage would be that only 800k and 1440k sizes are officially
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supported. While the Universal Disk Image format cannot be read by your
|
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Mac (or other computer) as if it were a real disk nor written back to a
|
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real disk, it can be used with several different emulators and can handle
|
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any size of disk, making it ideal for hard drives.
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To use it most efficiently, you need to set up an AppleTalk network
|
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between your IIgs and Power Mac. There have been many other articles
|
|
written about this subject so we will not cover it here. Once your network
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has been set up and you have logged on with your IIgs to your Mac (making
|
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sure you have sufficient hard disk space for disk images of your IIgs
|
|
volumes), simply start _ImageMaker_. The interface is extremely simple to
|
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follow: just choose which disk you wish to make an image of, which of the
|
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two formats you want the image to be in, then save it to your mounted Mac
|
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Appleshare volume. Once _ImageMaker_ is done doing its thing, you will
|
|
have a disk image (regardless of whether you choose DiskCopy or Universal
|
|
Disk Image format) that _Bernie_ will be able to mount through its "Mount
|
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Disk" option. _Much_ simpler than the Zip Drive method discussed in
|
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December!
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|
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So, for you die-hard Apple II fans who are putting _Bernie_ on your
|
|
new Power Macs, the $5 shareware fee is well worth it. This is the
|
|
simplest method yet to get your Virtual II up and running. Get
|
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_ImageMaker_ as soon as you possibly can!
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:: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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: :
|
|
: If this were an actual wisecrack, it would be funny. :
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: :
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::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: LUMITECH ::::::
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[EOA]
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[INN]------------------------------
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EXTRA INNINGS |
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-----------------------------------
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About The Lamp! The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month in
|
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""""""""""""""" the Database of the II Scribe Forum on the Delphi online
|
|
service (GO CUS 11).
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|
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This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computers
|
|
using Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes. Apple II Forever!
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|
|
* The Lamp! is (c) copyright 1999 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W. All
|
|
rights reserved.
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* To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to
|
|
thelamp@sheppyware.net
|
|
|
|
* Back issues of The Lamp! are available in the II Scribe Forum on
|
|
Delphi as well as The Lamp! Home Page,
|
|
http://lamp.sheppyware.net.
|
|
|
|
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
|
|
Opinions expressed herein are those of the individual authors, and do not
|
|
necessarily represent the opinions of the Delphi Online Services,
|
|
Syndicomm, Inc., or Ryan M. Suenaga. Forum messages are reprinted
|
|
verbatim and are included in this publication with permission from the
|
|
individual authors. Delphi Online Services, Syndicomm, Inc. and Ryan M.
|
|
Suenaga do not guarantee the accuracy or suitability of any information
|
|
included herein. We reserve the right to edit all letters and copy.
|
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|
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Material published in this edition may not be reprinted without the
|
|
expressed written consent of the publisher. Registered computer user
|
|
groups, not for profit publications , and other interested parties may
|
|
write the publisher to apply for permission to reprint any or all material.
|
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<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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[EOF]
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