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~ June 15, 1997 ~
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FROM MY DESKTOP ......... [FRM] HEY MISTER POSTMAN ...... [HEY]
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A2Pro Bits & Bytes. Pretty Please?
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I must start business this month with an apology to Tony Ward, the A2
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Macintosh and it crashed several times before I was done, which makes me
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wonder if it's bad karma to compose an Apple II periodical on a Mac.
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Onto new business: with this issue of _GenieLamp A2_, we also welcome
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our readers to the Official Unofficial home of _GenieLamp A2_ on the World
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Wide Web. Point your web broswer to:
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http://people.delphi.com/rsuenaga
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archives of the complete _GenieLamp A2_ collection. It is 100% lynx
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friendly, compliant with Nathan Mates' _Viewable on A Real Apple II_
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guidelines, and will eventually be enhanced for viewing by the _Spectrum
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Internet Suite_.
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[*] [*] [*]
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Finally, in case you've been living under a virtual rock the last few
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months, I thought I'd remind you about the annual Apple II event of the
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year: KansasFest 1997 is approaching rapidly. Mark your calendars for July
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30 through August 3, and plan on joining us over at Avila College in Kansas
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City, Missouri
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-- Ryan
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HEY MISTER POSTMAN /
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Is That A Letter For Me?
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""""""""""""""""""""""""
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by Ryan Suenaga
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[A2LAMP]
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o BULLETIN BOARD HOT SPOTS
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o A2 POT-POURRI
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o HOT TOPICS
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>>> BULLETIN BOARD HOT SPOTS <<<
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[*] CAT 3, TOP 32 ....... Disk of the What?
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[*] CAT 4, TOP 46 ....... A Close Call for Appleworks?
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[*] CAT 5, TOP 3 ....... Tiger Learning Computer
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[*] CAT 35, TOP 26 ....... Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam. . . .
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[*] CAT 35, TOP 28 ....... Which Road to 56k?
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[*] CAT 43, TOP 16 ....... Pages or Pagers?
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[*] CAT 44, TOP 7 ....... The Excitement Builds
|
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>>> A2 POT-POURRI <<<
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"""""""""""""""""""""
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EUNICHS WHO LOVE UNIX CONTINUED I have a question regarding the Internet
|
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" and Lynx:
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|
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[I can't recall where I read about this, SSII or in an answer you gave here
|
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on Genie][I've got it saved _somewhere_ -- for all the good that knowledge
|
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does me.]
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|
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You mentioned a method for downloading [IMAGE]s via Lynx. What was it? I
|
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tried (D)ownloading (a JPEG image); but, how do I go about saving the
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picture to disk? I have a IIgs and use Proterm 3.1.
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Mike Sakarias, Juneau Alaska
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(M.SAKARIAS, CAT28, TOP4, MSG:276/M645;1)
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>>>>> Depends on how you have Lynx configured.
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"""""
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Default, Lynx can usually save to your workspace, and when you quit Lynx,
|
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you can download it from your isp by your usual method (ZModem in my case).
|
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|
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You can also configure Lynx to send the file to you via XModem, YModem, or
|
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ZModem. Someone else will have to help you with that, though. Took me a
|
||
long time to get mine right :)
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Ryan
|
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http://www.keystroke.net/~rsuenaga
|
||
"There's no shortage of windmills to tilt at."--Logan
|
||
ANSITerm and CoPilot v2.55
|
||
(A2LAMP, CAT28, TOP4, MSG:277/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> Lynx can be configured to do darned near anything, provided you can
|
||
create your own lynx.cfg file. I've never tried it on Genie, but I'm
|
||
asuming it won't work because we don't have permanant private storage. If
|
||
you use Lynx on an ISP and want to customize it, here's what you do.
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|
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Find your ISP's default lynx.cfg file and copy it to your home directory.
|
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If you don't know where it's located, try 'whereis lynx' to find it. Once
|
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you have a copy of your own, you can customize it anyway you want, but you
|
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have to tell Lynx at startup time where your personal lynx.cfg is located.
|
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Like this: 'lynx -cfg=/mydir/lynx.cfg'. You can make that an alias and put
|
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it in your .login (or .profile or whatever) file so you don't have to type
|
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it all out everytime.
|
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|
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In the lynx.cfg file there is a section called "Downloader definitions".
|
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This lets you customize the options presented when you <D>ownload a file.
|
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Here's what mine looks like for adding a zmodem option:
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DOWNLOADER:Zmodem download: /home2/tward/lynx.sz %s %s:TRUE
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|
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That's pretty cryptic, let me try to explain. 'DOWNLOADER' is required. The
|
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colons are separators. 'Zmodem download' is what will be displayed on the
|
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screen as an option when I <D>ownload a file. '/home2/tward/lynx.sz %s %s'
|
||
is the command that will be run when I choose 'Zmodem download'. 'TRUE' (or
|
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'FALSE') determines if this downloader definition will be availble for
|
||
anonymous users.
|
||
|
||
You're asking, "Why can't I just use 'sz' as the command name instead of
|
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that '/home2/tward/lynx.sz %s %s' mess? Good question. You see, when lynx
|
||
downloads a file from a remote site, it saves it somewhere on your ISP's
|
||
system (a /tmp directory somewhere) with what is probably an unrecognizable
|
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filename like temp06783541. But Lynx is a little smarter than that, it
|
||
provides a "suggested" filename that matches the real filename. The first
|
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'%s' is the ugly temporary name, the second '%s' is the nicer "suggested"
|
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filename. However, we can only pass the first one to sz, which would result
|
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in the incorrect filename when you download.
|
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Sooo...we need a little "stub" command in our home directory to grab that
|
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second "suggested" filename and pass =that= to sz. I call that stub program
|
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'lynx.sz' but you can call it anything you want. Here's what it looks like:
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cp $1 ~/lynx.temp/$2
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sz ~/lynx.temp/$2
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rm ~/lynx.temp/$2
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Ouch, that's ugly! Not really. All it does is copy the temporary file $1
|
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(which was the first %s, the one with the ugly name) to a file with the
|
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correct name $2 (the second %s, "suggested" filename) in a directory called
|
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'lynx.tmp' in my home directory. Then it uses sz to send it zmodem, then it
|
||
deletes the file.
|
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|
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Sorry for the long post. The UNIX junkie in me got carried away. :)
|
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- Tony
|
||
(A2.TONY, CAT28, TOP4, MSG:278/M645;1)
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>>>>> When using lynx, there are two different graphic types that you're
|
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""""" likely to encounter:
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|
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[IMAGE] - All versions of lynx can download these easily. Just place your
|
||
lynx cursor on the [IMAGE] link and press D. The file will be transfered
|
||
from the remote computer to your ISP's system, and then lynx will display a
|
||
message asking if you want to save the file to your home directory on your
|
||
ISP's computer, or whether you want to use zmodem to download it directly
|
||
to your machine.
|
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|
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If the above process is not happening, then lynx was probably not installed
|
||
properly, and you should contact your ISP.
|
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|
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[INLINE] - If you are using any version of lynx prior to v2.6, it's
|
||
somewhat of a pain to download these, but it is possible (I'll get to that
|
||
below).
|
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|
||
Graphics of the [INLINE] type can easily be downloaded with lynx v2.6 or
|
||
2.7. When you hit a page with an [INLINE] that you want to download, just
|
||
press the * key. When you do that, lynx will re-retrieve the page, and the
|
||
[INLINE] will become an active link and the graphic will then be able to be
|
||
downloaded just as if it were an [IMAGE] graphic.
|
||
|
||
If you are using an older version of lynx that doesn't directly support
|
||
downloading of [INLINE] graphics, the only way I know how to download those
|
||
is by hitting the \ key (to display the html source code), noting the
|
||
complete URL for the graphic (by capturing it in my scrollback) and then
|
||
hitting lynx's G (Go To) command and when prompted for the URL, to send the
|
||
captured URL as the destination.
|
||
|
||
I hope that answers the question...
|
||
|
||
Joe
|
||
(JOE.KOHN, CAT28, TOP4, MSG:279/M645;1)
|
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|
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|
||
>>> HOT TOPICS <<<
|
||
""""""""""""""""""
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|
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KANSASFEST FOREVER > Are we waiting for a minimum no. of attendees before
|
||
"""""""""""""""""" > declaring that the KFest is on?
|
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|
||
Yes, but we are almost there. I'm not even worried about it this year.
|
||
|
||
However, if you haven't signed up yet, and you'd like me to be able to
|
||
sleep at night now so that we can all stay awake in July, get your
|
||
registration info in to InTrec SOON. As soon as we hit the "magic number"
|
||
the whole world will know. :)
|
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|
||
|
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Cindy
|
||
(aka The Big Cheese)
|
||
(CINDY.A, CAT44, TOP7, MSG:109/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> Once again, we hope to have so many excellent KFest Sessions that
|
||
""""" you'll have a hard time deciding which ones to attend:) The best
|
||
way to do that is for you to let us know what sessions you would like at
|
||
KFest this year.
|
||
|
||
So.....Let's hear it!!!
|
||
|
||
I'd like to hear from any potential presenters also! If you have an idea
|
||
for a dynamite session, we need to get you on the schedule. Once again I'll
|
||
need your proposals and any special requirements you may have. It takes
|
||
some time and juggling to handle this, so the sooner you get your proposals
|
||
in the better we can accommodate you.
|
||
|
||
Looking forward to seeing everyone at KFest '97!! Just remember that KFest
|
||
is what YOU make it, so crank out those ideas and let's make this year even
|
||
better than last year!
|
||
|
||
Steve
|
||
("Godzilla/ScheduleMeister/and a few others I'd rather not mention")
|
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|
||
P.S. In an effort to retain any sanity I may still have, it would be
|
||
appreciated if you answer in the A2 RT (Category 44 Topic 7) or send email
|
||
to "Mac.BB". Except for "special situations", I would rather see the
|
||
discussions in public (C44T7) so everyone can respond and help make this a
|
||
very special year at KFest. Thanks all!
|
||
(MAC.BB, CAT44, TOP7, MSG:113/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> I would dearly love to see a session on how to write a Hyperstudio
|
||
""""" NBA / Hypercard XCMD in either Orca Pascal or Orca C. Of course,
|
||
it would have to be pretty step-by-step. :)
|
||
|
||
_________
|
||
| homas
|
||
(T.COMPTER, CAT44, TOP7, MSG:114/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> I don't know about dynamite, but I'm sure I can arrange a "bomb".
|
||
""""" :)
|
||
|
||
Actually, I would very much like to do a hands-on, GraphicWriter/AWGS
|
||
specific desktop publishing session. Last year, I talked mostly about DTP
|
||
concepts and theory and how to apply those to the IIGS. This year, I would
|
||
like to get down and dirty doing some real-world stuff, answering
|
||
real-world questions and talking about real-world issues that concern those
|
||
of us who do DTP on the IIGS.
|
||
|
||
I may be bringing my GS to Kfest, but if I don't I would need to arrange
|
||
the use of a IIGS for this session.
|
||
|
||
So, would anyone be interested in this sort of thing? If so, any
|
||
suggestions on carrying out such a session from you all would be most
|
||
appreciated.
|
||
|
||
Max
|
||
(M.JONES145, CAT44, TOP7, MSG:115/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> Another thought ...
|
||
"""""
|
||
With everything going on concerning Spectrum and SIS, I would suggest a
|
||
session devoted exclusively to those products. I understand Ewen won't be
|
||
attending this year, but surely we can arrange someone to do this sort of
|
||
demo. In fact, Geoff Weiss may be planning to attend, and he would be a
|
||
natural for a SIS demo.
|
||
|
||
Max
|
||
(M.JONES145, CAT44, TOP7, MSG:116/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> We should lock Geoff into this as soon as possible. :-)
|
||
"""""
|
||
I also intend to do at least one if not two sessions on some stuff I've
|
||
been working on recently.
|
||
|
||
Regards,
|
||
Richard
|
||
(RICHARD.B, CAT44, TOP7, MSG:117/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> To do at least one thing totally off the wall and weird this year,
|
||
""""" I'd like to do a session on doing Apple II friendly HTML pages.
|
||
|
||
Ewen's email to me specifically hinted very strongly that Geoff Weiss would
|
||
demo SIS at KansasFest 1997. Of course, I've received no message from
|
||
_Geoff_ that would indicate that, but you never know what turns up in your
|
||
mailbox. . .
|
||
|
||
. . . including the revelation that this year at the Apple II Publisher's
|
||
Forum, -five- different Apple II publications shall be represented. :)
|
||
|
||
Ryan
|
||
http://www.keystroke.net/~rsuenaga
|
||
"There's no shortage of windmills to tilt at."--Logan
|
||
ANSITerm and CoPilot v2.55
|
||
(A2LAMP, CAT44, TOP7, MSG:118/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
<<<<< > I also intend to do at least one if not two sessions on some
|
||
""""" > stuff I've been working on recently.
|
||
|
||
YEAH!!!!
|
||
|
||
Cindy
|
||
(CINDY.A, CAT44, TOP7, MSG:119/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> I think Geoff is really looking forward to K'Fest, and I am sure he
|
||
""""" will do the demo. Whoever is organising the sessions, will need to
|
||
contact him at geoff@the-hermes.net.
|
||
|
||
Unfortunately I can't be there this year, but I will be there in spirit, if
|
||
not code! :)
|
||
|
||
Ewen (Speccie)
|
||
Delivered by: CoPilot v2.5.5 and Spectrum 2.1
|
||
(E.WANNOP, CAT44, TOP7, MSG:120/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> Thomas,
|
||
"""""
|
||
>> I would dearly love to see a session on how to write a Hyperstudio NBA /
|
||
>> Hypercard XCMD in either Orca Pascal or Orca C...
|
||
|
||
Can't promise anything right now, but your request in "on the list" so
|
||
there's a good chance someone will be willing and able to present this type
|
||
of session. Thanks for the input!
|
||
|
||
Max,
|
||
|
||
>> I would very much like to do a hands-on, GraphicWriter/AWGS specific
|
||
>> desktop publishing session...
|
||
|
||
Judging from your session last year, I'd say we can/should give this the
|
||
"green light" and take into account any comments that are mentioned here.
|
||
The GS should be no problem but thanks for mentioning it. We don't want any
|
||
presenter scheduled for 2 places at the same time - ditto for the
|
||
equipment:)
|
||
|
||
>> With everything going on concerning Spectrum and SIS, I would suggest
|
||
>> a session devoted exclusively to those products...
|
||
|
||
Hmmm. Geoff was one of the 1st presenters to offer help with KFest '97 -
|
||
received his email on August 13th (1996)! He offered to do a UNIX session
|
||
this year but maybe we can talk him into a SIS session also:) No doubt
|
||
this is an important session to include this year.
|
||
|
||
Richard,
|
||
|
||
>> We should lock Geoff into this as soon as possible. :-)
|
||
>> I also intend to do at least one if not two sessions on some stuff I've
|
||
>> been working on recently...
|
||
|
||
I'll email Geoff about a SIS session in addition (or in place of) his UNIX
|
||
session. (We could always "convince" Tony to handle UNIX) <G>
|
||
|
||
Will pencil YOU in for 2 sessions! If you have any special requirements,
|
||
please let me know. The reason you get 2 "automatic" sessions is that I've
|
||
never heard you talk without something worthwhile to say:)
|
||
|
||
Thank you Thomas,Max,and Richard!! Let's here from the rest of you!
|
||
Steve
|
||
(MAC.BB, CAT44, TOP7, MSG:121/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
I received email a few days ago that indicaated that Steve Cavanaugh,
|
||
editor of The Apple Blossom and HyperQuarterly, has decided to make this
|
||
year's KFest his first! This'll be a great opportunity to see what we can
|
||
get with a great paper publication and the new HyperCard disk subscription!
|
||
|
||
Ryan
|
||
http://www.keystroke.net/~rsuenaga
|
||
"There's no shortage of windmills to tilt at."--Logan
|
||
ANSITerm and CoPilot v2.55
|
||
(A2LAMP, CAT44, TOP7, MSG:130/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> I'm looking forward to meeting Steve C. I hope he'll be willing to
|
||
""""" do a HyperQuarterly demo, and perhaps even join in on a HyperCard
|
||
session for us beginning HCGS scripters. :)
|
||
|
||
BTW, spread the word near and far that the May 20 date for getting the
|
||
super-duper early bird special Kfest '97 registration price of $300 is
|
||
growing near. After that day, the price goes up. So be sure to take
|
||
advantage of the savings by registering early.
|
||
|
||
If you can't lay your hands on a registration form, check out the A2
|
||
Library. You'll find it there.
|
||
|
||
As Ryan's announcement about Steve Cavanaugh's planned attendance shows,
|
||
things are shaping up quite nicely for another rousingly successful Kfest.
|
||
|
||
Max
|
||
(M.JONES145, CAT44, TOP7, MSG:131/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
|
||
SHEPPY AND SHIFTY LIST 2.0 Sheppy,
|
||
""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
||
Shifty List 2.0 is a great program.
|
||
|
||
I created a script for use before running Spectrum. I added Spectrum to
|
||
the list, but I can't seem to get it to run automatically as the startup
|
||
application. I tried two ways: with Spectrum at the end of the list and
|
||
with SetStart Control Panel followed by Spectrum at the end of the list.
|
||
The documentation is not clear (at least to me) if SetStart is required on
|
||
the list or not.
|
||
|
||
My SetStart is set to run Autopilot (a program launcher from GS+) as my
|
||
startup application. When I do a Shifty-Boot, everything works as expected
|
||
except I end up in Autopilot (not Spectrum).
|
||
|
||
What am I doing wrong?
|
||
|
||
- Ken Watanabe
|
||
(K.WATANABE5, CAT13, TOP18, MSG:86/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> I'm pretty sure you have to put the application =before= SetStart
|
||
""""" in your script. That way by the time SetStart loads, Shifty List
|
||
can tell it which application to launch.
|
||
|
||
- Tony
|
||
(A2.TONY, CAT13, TOP18, MSG:87/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> Yeah, the application needs to be before SetStart in your script.
|
||
""""" When the application is seen, Shifty List alters SetStart's
|
||
preferences temporarily, so that when SetStart is loaded, it will select
|
||
the correct application.
|
||
|
||
I apologize if the documentation is unclear on this.
|
||
|
||
Sheppy
|
||
(SHEPPY, CAT13, TOP18, MSG:88/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
|
||
THE SIS SPECTACLE Arggggggh!!!!
|
||
"""""""""""""""""
|
||
I installed SIS, set preferences, and when I start it (START.SIS), it
|
||
hangs. When I click on Quit SIS, I have to click it 3 times and then I get
|
||
a message saying that Browser needs Spectrum 2.1 or later. The next message
|
||
I get tells me to install SIS.
|
||
|
||
I've re-install several times. I've shift-booted. Same thing...nothing.
|
||
|
||
Also, I could not intall SIS using Finder. I get an application not found
|
||
error. I had to install using Spectrum's Run Script method.
|
||
|
||
Help!!!!
|
||
|
||
+------+
|
||
| Norm |
|
||
+------+
|
||
(N.LEE, CAT43, TOP17, MSG:153/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> Monday, May 12, 1997 - 23:40
|
||
"""""
|
||
I received SIS today. I have wasted the last two hours trying to get it to
|
||
work.
|
||
|
||
I installed it as instructed and restarted Spectrum. When I run the
|
||
Start.SIS script, I see the SIS splash screen with "Loading...." at the
|
||
bottom. The first time I then get the prefs screen. After the prefs are
|
||
saved nothing else happens. The splash screen remains with a large white
|
||
square in the center where the prefs screen was and "Loading...." at the
|
||
bottom.
|
||
|
||
Subsequent attempts to run the script result in the splash screen and the
|
||
loading message being displayed. Eventually the cursor square appears on
|
||
the splash screen upper left in white. Nothing else happens.
|
||
|
||
In both cases, I then tried all the menu choices, none of which did
|
||
anything. Eventually, a message appears stating that version 2.1 of
|
||
Spectrum is required. I am running version 2.1. This is followed by a
|
||
message that I have to use the installer to install the Browser. I did
|
||
that already. I have reinsstalled three times with the same results.
|
||
|
||
How do I get this thing to work?
|
||
|
||
|
||
MT Steve
|
||
(S.BERNBAUM, CAT43, TOP17, MSG:154/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> A little patience is required...
|
||
|
||
You should start off with a fully installed Spectrum v2.1. Now run the
|
||
Install script on the SIS disk. This should start Spectrum and run that
|
||
script. When it has finished installing all the files to the right places,
|
||
it will say the process is finished and Quit Spectrum. Now run Spectrum
|
||
again, and run the Start.SIS script to configure SIS.
|
||
|
||
If you are currently offline, or have no modem connected, or your modem is
|
||
turned off, you will need to have a little patience as SIS loads. Just sit
|
||
and wait for the appropriate prompts. Trying to click things will not help,
|
||
as SIS is running under Spectrum scripts, you just have to wait till you
|
||
get the appropriate response dialog, screen, or menu becoming active.
|
||
|
||
The first time you will be taken to the Configuration dialog. If you intend
|
||
to use SIS offline, it is a good idea not to put in a Home page until you
|
||
are used to the way SIS and the World Wide Wait works. That way SIS will
|
||
not try to look for one when it starts up. If you are always going to run
|
||
SIS after you have connected to your Host, then you can put in the page you
|
||
like most.
|
||
|
||
In general, you do need a lot of patience with SIS. This is because SIS
|
||
connects to the great World Wide Wait. The World Wide Wait is notorious for
|
||
very long waits, with nothing happening. SIS has to allow for that, so
|
||
sometimes it may seem a long time before something happens on screen or to
|
||
the menus if there is no response from a particular action. Nothing we can
|
||
do about that...
|
||
|
||
If you are online at either a Genie prompt, or a Unix prompt of your host
|
||
system, it will speed things up. Once configured, you should be sailing
|
||
away on the surf...
|
||
|
||
>> Received my copy of SIS today. Install..no problem...Had it up and
|
||
>> running within 10 min. :)
|
||
>> Great job guys !! Well worth the wait.
|
||
|
||
It can be done as you can see, and Max's surfboard shows the signs of being
|
||
well used...
|
||
|
||
Ewen (Speccie)
|
||
Delivered by: CoPilot v2.5.5 and Spectrum 2.1
|
||
(E.WANNOP, CAT43, TOP17, MSG:155/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> I received SIS today too. I had the same problems that Norm
|
||
""""" mentioned. Basically, after installation and running the script
|
||
START.SIS, I got two message boxes with OK button.
|
||
|
||
First one said - The Browser will only work with Spectrum v.2.1 or later.
|
||
|
||
Strange, since that's what I have.
|
||
|
||
Second one said - Please run the Installer from the Spectrum Internet Suite
|
||
to install the Browser X Display.
|
||
|
||
Obviously, I did this already.
|
||
|
||
The solution that worked for me - I removed the Spectrum preference file
|
||
from my System/Preferences directory (on my boot volume). I believe it's
|
||
called spectrum2.pref. The next time I started Spectrum, it created a new
|
||
"default" preference file. After that (and setting up my configuration
|
||
again), SIS worked!
|
||
|
||
WARNING - You will have to set up Spectrum's configurations again if you
|
||
remove or delete the preference file. This includes phone numbers and
|
||
port/display settings.
|
||
|
||
Hopefully, someone will provide a more elegant solution, but this one
|
||
worked for me. I haven't played with SIS very much yet, but it does
|
||
work...
|
||
|
||
BTW - Joe Kohn's "unofficial instructions" in March 1997 Shareware
|
||
Solutions II were very helpful.
|
||
|
||
- Ken Watanabe
|
||
(K.WATANABE5, CAT43, TOP17, MSG:156/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> I had one small problem with SIS install that was 100% my fault: I
|
||
""""" ran out of hard drive space.
|
||
|
||
Quick observations: remarkably fast, simple to set up, and so much what I
|
||
expected it seemed like I designed it :)
|
||
|
||
One quirk: when viewing my own page (http://www.kestrok.com/~rsuenaga),
|
||
there is a piece of ASCII art designed by David Kerwood which appears to be
|
||
screwy, though it looks fine in Lynx. I -suspect- this is a linefeed
|
||
problem, but if someone could take a look. . . :)
|
||
|
||
Ryan
|
||
Who won't claim that GenieLamp will be later because of SIS
|
||
(But could :)
|
||
(A2LAMP, CAT43, TOP17, MSG:157/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> Ryan burbled (the result of too much late night cold poi):
|
||
"""""
|
||
>One quirk: when viewing my own page (http://www.kestrok.com/~rsuenaga),
|
||
>there is a piece of ASCII art designed by David Kerwood which appears to
|
||
>be screwy, though it looks fine in Lynx. I -suspect- this is a linefeed
|
||
>problem, but if someone could take a look. . . :)
|
||
|
||
Well, it is and it isn't. :)
|
||
|
||
You ran into a problem that we discovered in the very last day of testing,
|
||
that being that there is a character limit on the amount of preformatted
|
||
text in an ALT tag that can be displayed by SIS. If you want your wonderful
|
||
artwork (!) to be displayed correctly in SIS as well as Lynx, change it
|
||
from this:
|
||
|
||
<PRE>
|
||
<IMG ALIGN=Left SRC="http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest97.gif"
|
||
WIDTH="347" HEIGHT="333" ALT="
|
||
__ __ ______ __ _ ____ _____
|
||
/ //_// ____/__ _____/ /_ ( ) __ \/__ /
|
||
/ ,< / /_ / _ \/ ___/ __/ |/ /_/ / / /
|
||
/ /| |/ __/ / __(__ ) /_ \__, / / /
|
||
/_/ |_/_/ \___/____/\__/ /____/ /_/
|
||
">
|
||
</PRE>
|
||
|
||
To this:
|
||
|
||
<PRE>
|
||
<IMG ALIGN=Left SRC="http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest97.gif"
|
||
WIDTH="347" HEIGHT="333" ALT="
|
||
__ __ ______ __ _ ____ _____
|
||
/ //_// ____/__ _____/ /_ ( ) __ \/__ /
|
||
/ ,< / /_ / _ \/ ___/ __/ |/ /_/ / / /
|
||
/ /| |/ __/ / __(__ ) /_ \__, / / /
|
||
/_/ |_/_/ \___/____/\__/ /____/ /_/
|
||
">
|
||
</PRE>
|
||
|
||
Really. That'll work. There's a few extra space characters in the first
|
||
version that causes SIS to not wrap the lines correctly. Look at the KFest
|
||
page on A2-Web for an example of how this figlet should actually display.
|
||
|
||
For those of you who run into the problem of SIS telling you that it
|
||
requires v2.1 of Spectrum to run, that's true enough. That includes the
|
||
preferences file that Spectrum v2.1 creates. If you try to use the same
|
||
preferences file from a previous version of Spectrum, it won't work.
|
||
Deleting that preferences file, and letting Spectrum v2.1 build it's own,
|
||
will fix that problem. Be aware that deleting your old preferences file
|
||
will cause you to lose all your settings, so be sure and make some notes on
|
||
how you have Spectrum set up before you do this (phone numbers, etc.)
|
||
|
||
|
||
David K. - A2-Web! Get tangled at http://www.syndicomm.com/a2web/
|
||
(A2.DAD, CAT43, TOP17, MSG:158/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> > BTW - Joe Kohn's "unofficial instructions" in March 1997
|
||
""""" > Shareware Solutions II were very helpful.
|
||
|
||
Thank you.
|
||
|
||
When I wrote about SIS in the latest issue of Shareware Solutions II, I
|
||
tried to do as complete a job as possible.
|
||
|
||
I also figured that a lot of folks would be purchasing the Spectrum/SIS
|
||
bundle, and that's the main reason why I included installation instructions
|
||
for both Spectrum and SIS.
|
||
|
||
I welcome you all to the wonderful world of Spectrum Internet Suite. I know
|
||
you're all going to love it ;-)
|
||
|
||
Joe
|
||
(JOE.KOHN, CAT43, TOP17, MSG:161/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
|
||
>>> WHAT'S NEW <<<
|
||
""""""""""""""""'"
|
||
|
||
BLATANT KFEST PLUG
|
||
""""""""""""""""""
|
||
______ _____
|
||
( ) ( ) ____________________________________________
|
||
| | / / ( _____________________________'97____)
|
||
| | / / | |
|
||
| |/ / | | II Infinitum!!
|
||
| / | |______
|
||
| |\ \ | _______) __________ ________ ________
|
||
| | \ \ | | ( _____) ( ___) (__ __)
|
||
| | \ \ | | | |__ \ \ | |
|
||
| | \ \ | | | __) \ \ | |
|
||
| | \ \ | | | |_____ ___\ \ | |
|
||
(______) (________) (_______) (__________) (_________) |___|
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
We still have some space available for KansasFest 1997! KFest '97 will
|
||
again be held on the campus of Avila College in Kansas City, Missouri. It
|
||
will take place from July 30 - August 3, 1997. The cost will be only $375,
|
||
which _includes_ use of a double room in the Avila College dorms _and_
|
||
meals!
|
||
|
||
There are also a limited number of single rooms available. (If you wish to
|
||
stay at one of the many hotels or motels near the college then the cost is
|
||
$300, but you would, of course, have to find and pay for your own room and
|
||
meals.) The last date pre-registrations will be accepted is July 20th.
|
||
|
||
Featured presenters this year include Max Jones, editor and publisher of
|
||
_Juiced.GS_; Geoff Weiss, co-author of the first Apple II web browser, the
|
||
_Spectrum Internet Suite_; and Ryan Suenaga, editor of _GenieLampA2_. The
|
||
annual Apple II writer's and publisher's forum will feature the editors of
|
||
five Apple II publications, our keynote speaker will be the webmeister of
|
||
the hot new Mother Of All Apple II Web Sites, David Kerwood, and this
|
||
year's roastee will be Richard Bennett, the world famous Australian
|
||
programmer!
|
||
|
||
Check-in will be on Wedensday from 1-4 pm, and check-out from 11 am - 1 pm
|
||
on Sunday. Computer sessions will be conducted on Thursday and Friday. A
|
||
vendor fair is scheduled for Saturday morning, with software and hardware
|
||
demos slated for Saturday afternoon.
|
||
|
||
Meals included in the registration price are Thursday breakfast through
|
||
Sunday breakfast, with the exception of Saturday dinner. All children under
|
||
18 years must be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian.
|
||
|
||
++ Please Note++ Dinner on Wednesday and Saturday are NOT included this
|
||
year. Attendees can dine on their own at one of the many fine restaurants
|
||
near the Avila campus, or join the Kfest '97 group for their annual treks
|
||
to KC Masterpiece and Jess & Jim's Steak House.
|
||
|
||
KFest this year is being sponsored by InTrec Software, Inc..
|
||
|
||
If you have questions about KFest, or wish to make suggestions, you can
|
||
find answers via the InterNet. Just send an email message to
|
||
Cindyadams@delphi.com, or visit the World Wide Web page at
|
||
http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest.html
|
||
|
||
Why wait? Register now! Join us today! KFest 1997 approaches!
|
||
(CINDY.A, CAT44, TOP7, MSG:162/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
VAV-WARE, TAKE TWO I have uploaded a new version of all of my finder
|
||
"""""""""""""""""" extensions....Seems that since they were all written
|
||
in the same manner, they all contained the same bug....damn those bugs.
|
||
Anyhow, I have fixed the pesky little bug (previous versions wouldn't
|
||
close out completly when the finder exited).
|
||
|
||
Let me know what you think
|
||
|
||
When they are release the will be the following:
|
||
|
||
Number: 28543 Name: FF101.BXY FinderFlipper V1.0.1
|
||
Number: 28544 Name: FR101.BXY FinderRefresher V1.0.1
|
||
Number: 28545 Name: WORKSETS101.BXY WorkSets V1.0.1
|
||
Number: 28542 Name: CDR101.BXY CD Remember V1.0.1
|
||
|
||
FinderFlipper V1.0.1:
|
||
|
||
FinderFlipper is a finder extension that aids in the task of
|
||
bringing windows up front. No longer will you have to move windows around
|
||
in order to find one that you have buried. No longer will you have to
|
||
move your mouse all the way to the Windows menu to select the window you
|
||
want. <<<<Freeware>>>>
|
||
|
||
|
||
FinderRefresher V1.0.1:
|
||
|
||
FinderRefresher is a finder extension that will force the front
|
||
most window to refresh itself. <<<<Shareware $5>>>>
|
||
|
||
|
||
WorkSets V1.0.1:
|
||
|
||
If you work with different files in multiple folders often and dont
|
||
like to clutter up the desktop of the Finder with aliases then WorkSets is
|
||
for you. WorkSets is a finder extension that allows the user to record the
|
||
open folders on the desktop in a list for later retrieval. <<<<Shareware
|
||
$10>>>>
|
||
|
||
|
||
CD Remember V1.0.1:
|
||
|
||
Have you ever been surfing through a CD checking out what is there
|
||
weaving your way through all of the directory structures....wait, something
|
||
strikes your fancy, it's an application...Double-click....hey, this stinks
|
||
or worse yet, a system crash. After you return to the Finder you have to
|
||
start all over surfing your way back down the directory tree to get back to
|
||
the point at which you left. Well, no longer will you have to spend your
|
||
time retracing your steps, let CD Remember remember where you were. CD
|
||
Remember will remember folders you have open when you leave the finder
|
||
until you return. <<<<ShareWare $15>>>>
|
||
(C.VAVRUSKA1, CAT13, TOP10, MSG:3/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
FRESH BLOSSOMS We're pleased to announce that the latest issue of Apple
|
||
"""""""""""""" Blossom, Volume 3 Number 2 is completed and will be mailed
|
||
out to subscribers on Tuesday, May 27.
|
||
|
||
This issue has several press releases and news bits, a HyperTalking article
|
||
on sound in HyperCard IIGS stacks, a very interesting interview with David
|
||
Kerwood by Ryan Suenaga, a review of the Tiger Learning Computer, and a
|
||
brief history of ProDOS 8's last few version upgrades by Jerry Cline of
|
||
Intrec.
|
||
|
||
Hyper Quarterly, our HyperCard IIGS disk-subscription is also nearing
|
||
readiness, and the first issue should ship in the next two weeks. More
|
||
information on that when it is ready for publication.
|
||
|
||
Regards,
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
Steve Cavanaugh The Apple Blossom
|
||
Apple Blossom Publishing Hyper Quarterly
|
||
http://members.aol.com/newblossom/ The Apple II Modem Starter Disk
|
||
email: stevec1021@aol.com abpub@ziplink.net appleblossom@delphi.com
|
||
(A2LAMP, CAT13, TOP17, MSG:60/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
|
||
>>> THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE <<<
|
||
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
||
|
||
JOKO AND EGO A few years ago, right after EGO Systems became the
|
||
"""""""""""" publisher for Addressed For Success, I contacted Steve
|
||
Disbrow to suggest that we offer an AFS/Contacts GS bundle.
|
||
|
||
The reason for an AFS/Contacts GS bundle seemed obvious to me at the time.
|
||
After all, the two programs complement each other and go hand-in-hand. What
|
||
AFS can't do, Contacts can and what Contacts can't do, AFS can.
|
||
|
||
Well, to make a long story short, Steve and I never did reach an agreement
|
||
on offering that bundle.
|
||
|
||
But...that should be changing soon, as Shareware Solutions II is (if all
|
||
goes according to plan) going to become the new publisher of Addressed For
|
||
Success after EGO closes the doors at the end of June, 1997.
|
||
|
||
I just thought you'd all want to know that. Of course, details will be
|
||
provided once they are worked out.
|
||
|
||
Joe
|
||
(JOE.KOHN, CAT28, TOP4, MSG:294/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
<<<<< Steve Disbrow posted a message in the EGO Systems category a few
|
||
""""" weeks back that said he was closing down his mail order operations
|
||
on June 27th.
|
||
|
||
Some of the products that EGO sells are already sold out. So, if there is
|
||
_anything_ that you want to purchase from EGO, you better do it now.
|
||
|
||
At this point, some of the products are "up for grabs" to the highest
|
||
bidder. It looks like I submitted the high bid for Addressed For Success,
|
||
so SSII will be publishing that.
|
||
|
||
Additionally, since Diz was a distributor of WestCode Software products,
|
||
I've been in contact with WestCode, and SSII plans to be the new
|
||
distributor of their product line...once Diz sends me whatever he has left
|
||
over.
|
||
|
||
At this point, I do not know who else, if anyone, has bid on EGO products.
|
||
So, get what you need by June 27, 1997.
|
||
|
||
Joe Kohn
|
||
(JOE.KOHN, CAT28, TOP4, MSG:297/M645;1)
|
||
|
||
|
||
>>> MESSAGE SPOTLIGHT <<<
|
||
"""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
||
|
||
Category 35, Topic 26
|
||
Message 210 Sat May 10, 1997
|
||
A2.TONY [Librarian] at 17:31 EDT
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
With all the recent talk about spam email, I thought I'd let you all know
|
||
how I handle it. First, my signature:
|
||
____________________________ ____________________________________
|
||
/----------------------------\__/------------------------------------\
|
||
\ tward@interaccess.com /__\ Unsolicited email ads are not /
|
||
/ a2.tony@genie.com \__/ welcome and will not be tolerated. \
|
||
\___ tonyw1@delphi.com ______/ \_______ Just say NO to SPAM! _______/
|
||
|
||
Depending on where I'm sending the email, I'll add a pointer to a great
|
||
website for information about spam. Check it out:
|
||
|
||
http://spam.abuse.net/spam/
|
||
|
||
I won't go into procmail filtering unless someone asks because it's really
|
||
complex and it doesn't work on Genie anyway. If you want to take some time
|
||
to respond to the spammers, here are some tips.
|
||
|
||
1) Look at the header. The =whole= header. Genie provides the whole header
|
||
but many mail programs (such as pine) don't unless you tell them to. The
|
||
"From:" and "Reply To:" addresses are rarely the person who sent the spam.
|
||
You have to do some detective work with the header and possibly some other
|
||
tools like traceroute, whois and nslookup. Play with those commands on your
|
||
ISP to see how they work.
|
||
|
||
2) Send your response to as many recipients as possible. Once you've nailed
|
||
down the originating site, send email to sysadmin, abuse, root, postmaster,
|
||
and anything else you can think of.
|
||
|
||
3) Be polite. Crude rants and raves won't get you anywhere.
|
||
|
||
4) Include the entire piece of spam you received, with the =whole= header.
|
||
Sometimes the site will use this information to give a spammer the boot.
|
||
|
||
Some people use a slightly different method. After receiving the first spam
|
||
they will send a reply like this:
|
||
|
||
"Thank you for the unsolicited email advertisement. I will be more than
|
||
happy to look at any future advertisements for the standard consultant's
|
||
fee of $100/page. Any further email advertisements I receive from you will
|
||
result in a bill for the above amount. If you believe you have received
|
||
this note in error, please let me know."
|
||
|
||
If you do receive another email ad from them, send them a bill. I'm quite
|
||
serious about this. Most people who use this method will never hear from
|
||
spammers a second time, for obvious reasons. But it does involve some work
|
||
unless you're very adept with procmail or some other email filter.
|
||
|
||
- Tony
|
||
|
||
[*][*][*]
|
||
|
||
|
||
While on Genie, do you spend most of your time downloading files?
|
||
If so, you may be missing out some excellent information in the Bulletin
|
||
Board area. The messages listed above only scratch the surface of
|
||
what's available and waiting for you in the bulletin board area.
|
||
|
||
If you are serious about your Apple II, the GenieLamp staff strongly
|
||
urge you to give the bulletin board area a try. There are literally
|
||
thousands of messages posted from people like you from all over the
|
||
world.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
[EOA]
|
||
[A2P]//////////////////////////////
|
||
A2/PRO_ductivity /
|
||
/////////////////////////////////
|
||
By Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W.
|
||
[A2LAMP]
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
>>> A2PRO BITS & BYTES <<<
|
||
""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
||
|
||
BASE ON BALLS In his DEBASED program just released, Robert Hardman
|
||
""""""""""""" [R.HARDMAN] sharedhis
|
||
assembly source code for shifting 4 6-bit bytes into 3 8-bit bytes.
|
||
|
||
While Robert has done a fine job with this code, I'm wondering if there isa
|
||
shorter, quicker way to do it. First take a look at Robert's code:
|
||
|
||
*****************************
|
||
*
|
||
* Turn 4x6-bits into 3x8-bits
|
||
*
|
||
* inbyte1 inbyte2 inbyte3
|
||
* inbyte1 xx|654321 | |
|
||
* inbyte2 | xx65|4321 |
|
||
* inbyte3 | | xx6543|21
|
||
* inbyte4 | | |xx654321
|
||
*
|
||
*****************************
|
||
*
|
||
* rotate bits 5/4 of inbyte2
|
||
* into inbyte1 to make outbyte1
|
||
*
|
||
|
||
M6I8 LDA inbyte2
|
||
ASL
|
||
ASL ;discard unused bits
|
||
ASL
|
||
ROL outbyte1 ;shove lower 6 to upper 6
|
||
ASL ;and insert upper 2 as
|
||
ROL outbyte1 ;lower 2
|
||
|
||
*
|
||
* The upper 4 bits of Acc are now the upper 4 bits of
|
||
* OB2, and the lower 4 are clear.
|
||
*
|
||
|
||
STA outbyte2 ;save that half...
|
||
LDA inbyte3 ;turn middle 4 bits of IB3
|
||
LSR ;into lower 4 bits of OB2
|
||
LSR
|
||
ORA outbyte2 ;combine with upper 4
|
||
STA outbyte2 ;and save
|
||
|
||
*
|
||
* finally, overwrite hi 2 of IB4 with lo 2 of
|
||
* IB3 to make OB3
|
||
*
|
||
|
||
LDA inbyte3
|
||
ASL ;move lo 2 to hi 2
|
||
ASL
|
||
ASL
|
||
ASL
|
||
ASL
|
||
ASL
|
||
ORA inbyte4 ;combine with lo 6
|
||
STA outbyte3 ;and save
|
||
|
||
*
|
||
* That's it
|
||
*
|
||
************
|
||
|
||
RTS
|
||
|
||
outcount dfb 1
|
||
strlen dfb 1
|
||
inbyte1 dfb 1
|
||
outbyte1 = inbyte1
|
||
inbyte2 dfb 1
|
||
outbyte2 = inbyte2
|
||
inbyte3 dfb 1
|
||
outbyte3 = inbyte3
|
||
inbyte4 dfb 1
|
||
|
||
Now, here's my challenge. Can anyone tighten this code?
|
||
|
||
Assume that the 4 6-bit bytes are already in inbyte1, inbyte2, inbyte3, and
|
||
inbyte4. The job is to get rid of the leading two bits of each byte and
|
||
then put the remaining 6 bits of each one together in a line with the other
|
||
ones to create 3 8-bit bytes.
|
||
For example, the binary code for the word "God" is
|
||
|
||
G = 71 or 01000111
|
||
o = 111 or 01101111
|
||
d = 100 or 01100100
|
||
|
||
Put those three in a line and then divide them into 4 6-bit parts and you
|
||
get...
|
||
|
||
0 1 0 0 0 1-1 1 0 1 1 0-1 1 1 1 0 1-1 0 0 1 0 0
|
||
|
||
Tack on two leading zeros and you have the four bytes
|
||
|
||
00010001
|
||
00110110
|
||
00111101
|
||
00100100
|
||
|
||
Now the challenge is to turn those 4 bytes back into the original 3
|
||
bytesthat spell "God". Can you do it better than the code given here?
|
||
|
||
Show us! :)
|
||
|
||
Charlie
|
||
(A2.CHARLIE, CAT2, TOP6, MSG:158/M530;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> How do you want it, optimised for cycles, code length or number of
|
||
""""" instructions?
|
||
|
||
You said "tighten", but just wanted to be sure.
|
||
|
||
Regards,
|
||
Richard
|
||
(RICHARD.B, CAT2, TOP6, MSG:159/M530;1)
|
||
|
||
<<<<< Optimised for cycles is what I had in mind. I'm looking for code
|
||
""""" taht performs the task as quickly as possible without introducing
|
||
potential errors.
|
||
|
||
I can imagine that there would be a _significant_ increase in either code
|
||
length or number of instructions anyway.
|
||
|
||
Have at it. :)
|
||
|
||
Charlie
|
||
(A2.CHARLIE, CAT2, TOP6, MSG:160/M530;1)
|
||
|
||
>>>>> Give me a 16meg lookup table and I can have that thing running so
|
||
""""" fast it'd make your eyes spin in their sockets :) But 16meg is a
|
||
little impractical
|
||
:)
|
||
|
||
Dave
|
||
(JUST.DAVE, CAT2, TOP6, MSG:161/M530;1)
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
[EOA]
|
||
[RFR]//////////////////////////////
|
||
REFRACTIONS /
|
||
/////////////////////////////////
|
||
Pretty Please?
|
||
""""""""""""""
|
||
by Douglas Cuff
|
||
[D.CUFF]
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
>>> PERMISSION GRANTED <<<
|
||
""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
||
|
||
Home pages are everywhere. It's not just TV commercials and newspaper
|
||
advertisements--either you have a web page yourself, or you know someone
|
||
who does. The world wide web has brought publishing within the reach of
|
||
anyone with enough money to afford a computer.
|
||
|
||
Unfortunately, the web page has shown us the horror of technology--or,
|
||
rather, the horror of humans let loose upon it--even more clearly than
|
||
desktop publishing did. Now hundreds of thousands of people have been
|
||
granted the power of publishing without being taught about the
|
||
responsibilities. A frequently ignored responsibility is taking good care
|
||
not to steal.
|
||
|
||
If you want to include a logo on your web page to show how much you
|
||
enjoy a singer or television show, you must ask the permission of the
|
||
person who owns that logo. (You will of course have heard and dismissed
|
||
the lame cry that the owner should be grateful for the "free advertising".)
|
||
If you are denied permission, you don't include the logo. (You will have
|
||
run into self-centred folk who still have not realized that the Stewart's
|
||
Law of Retraction--"It is easier to get forgiveness than permission."--is
|
||
meant to be a joke.) You can't always get what you want.
|
||
|
||
People sometimes avoid asking for permission because it's a hassle.
|
||
Well, in the first place, because a rule or a law something inconveniences
|
||
you doesn't mean it doesn't apply to you. And in the second place, it's
|
||
not a hassle; in fact, most of the time, it's a snap. Let me tell you
|
||
about three times I've asked for permission to reproduce material belonging
|
||
to someone else.
|
||
|
||
In my still-incomplete HyperStudio stack about Canada, I wanted to
|
||
include sound samples of two voices familiar to many Canadians--Peter
|
||
Gzowski, host of CBC Radio's nationally-broadcast programme _Morningside_
|
||
(6 September 1982-30 May 1997) and Shelagh Rogers, deputy host. Through
|
||
CBC Enterprises, I legitimately acquired a tape of Peter and Shelagh saying
|
||
my name. (I wrote _Morningside_ a letter, and they read the letter over
|
||
the air.) Although I bought a legitimate copy of that part of the
|
||
programme, that was just so I could listen to it whenever I liked--I had
|
||
not purchased the right to distribute it. So I wrote Morningside again and
|
||
asked permission to distribute sound samples of Peter and Shelagh saying my
|
||
name. One of the production staff, Shelley Ambrose, phoned to tell me it
|
||
was fine, corrected my spelling, and wished me luck. No demands for
|
||
credit, no stickiness nor stuffiness. Plain sailing.
|
||
|
||
My next request was equally uncomplicated. I wrote Purity Factories,
|
||
a small biscuit- and confectionery-manufacturer, to ask for permission to
|
||
reproduce their logo on a sub-section of my home page. Their sales manager
|
||
thought it was a great idea, and promised to hand my letter to their
|
||
general manager. I waited several weeks before telephoning the general
|
||
manager to prompt him for a decision. He said no. He went on to explain:
|
||
They guard their trademarks pretty closely. They liked my Purity page and
|
||
were grateful for it, but it wasn't worth the legal hassle to give me
|
||
permission to use their logo. I thanked him for his time, and that was it.
|
||
Simple. (Accepting a refusal isn't always easy, but you get plenty of
|
||
chances to get good at it.)
|
||
|
||
My third request was the only one that lived up to the scenario that
|
||
alarmists dream up. I wrote to Paramount Pictures. Paramount is one of
|
||
the companies that employs zealots to protect their meal-ticket. Those of
|
||
us who respect intellectual property wince whenever Paramount's name is
|
||
brought up. Either their executives or their lawyers--or both--have no
|
||
idea when to stop. When you try to send Paramount a comment from their web
|
||
site, they ask that your letter not contain any *ideas*. Not story
|
||
ideas--they've already covered that legitimate worry separately. They
|
||
don't want your letter to express any ideas. It must be a "suit" thing.
|
||
|
||
What I wanted to do was attach part of the _Mission: Impossible_ theme
|
||
to the Task Impossible event in my Sound Control Panel. Normally, that's
|
||
the kind of action I avoid. Use a copyrighted sound, particularly one from
|
||
the popular media? No thanks. However, I knew that Paramount had sound
|
||
clips from last summer's movie starring Tom Cruise on their web site.
|
||
What's more, their legal text said that it was okay for me to have one copy
|
||
of any material downloaded from the site. So, no problem, right?
|
||
|
||
Well, there wouldn't have been, if I had been willing to attach the
|
||
entire 2- or 3-minute song to the Task Impossible event. I just wanted
|
||
eight or possibly four notes--that's enough for most people to get the
|
||
reference and the joke. Paramount's standard legal text informed me: "You
|
||
also agree that you will not alter, disassemble, decompile, reverse
|
||
engineer or otherwise modify the Downloaded Material." Well, to clip out a
|
||
short section counts as altering and modifying, so I wrote to them to ask
|
||
permission for that. Several weeks ago I wrote them. Have I heard back
|
||
them? Of course not. They're probably still wondering if it will weaken
|
||
their position if they acknowledge having received it. Meanwhile, of
|
||
course, I do nothing about the sound event. I can't. It's their material.
|
||
Until I have their permission, I can't go ahead. It's not enough just to
|
||
ask permission--I must wait until I get it.
|
||
|
||
Fortunately, Paramount and their ilk are still the exception. When
|
||
you ask for permission to reproduce people's work in a way that doesn't
|
||
hurt the person who owns it, you'll most often get a prompt and cheerful
|
||
yes, or a reasonably prompt and polite no.
|
||
|
||
My favourite permissions story predates the world wide web by several
|
||
years. A master's student wanted permission to reproduce a comic strip in
|
||
her thesis, so she asked the cartoonist who created and owned the strip.
|
||
The cartoonist wrote back that no one had ever asked him for that before.
|
||
He had had little education, and was honoured to think of something he had
|
||
created being a small part of a thesis.
|
||
|
||
Only occasionally will your request to reproduce be swallowed by a
|
||
faceless bureaucracy. Most of the time, you'll get to talk to another
|
||
person, someone who will listen to what it is that you want, and let you
|
||
know quickly whether that's possible. Even if your request is denied,
|
||
you'll end up feeling good that you made a real contact with another human
|
||
being. You'll end up feeling good that someone listened to you. You'll
|
||
end up feeling good that you're respecting the rights of others, and that
|
||
your web page and computer are free from copyright violations. You'll be
|
||
doing the right thing, and you'll end up feeling good.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
[EOA]
|
||
[BAN]//////////////////////////////
|
||
FILE BANDWAGON /
|
||
/////////////////////////////////
|
||
Top 10 Files for April
|
||
""""""""""""""""""""""
|
||
by Douglas Cuff
|
||
[D.CUFF]
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
This feature lists the ten most popular files for the month. To give
|
||
files a chance to seek their own levels, no files will be added to the list
|
||
until they've been in place at least a month. This month, we look at the
|
||
files uploaded 1-30 April 1997.
|
||
|
||
This isn't the Academy Awards ceremony, folks; it's more like the
|
||
People's Choice Awards (both of which are trademarked, by the way). The
|
||
Top 10 doesn't necessarily tell you what's new and interesting--what files
|
||
_you_ might find interesting--it simply tells you what files have been
|
||
downloaded a lot--what other people found interesting!
|
||
|
||
This month, GenieLamp A2 occupies four spots on the list, but we're
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just counting that one file. We hope this explains why there are 13 files
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on the Top 10 list.
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File # Filename Bytes DLs Short description
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28522 SLDEMO2.0.BXY 94464 108 Shifty List 2.0 DEMO
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28454 SPAMMASTER.BXY 9844 57 NDA to take care of e-mail spam!!
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28457 ALMP9704TXT.BXY 64896 46 GenieLamp A2, Apr 97 (text)
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28459 ALMP9704.HS.BXY 95872 40 GenieLamp A2, Apr. 1997 (HyprStudio)
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28456 ALMP9704AWP.BXY 72704 38 GenieLamp A2, Apr 97 (AppleWorks)
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28497 JUPITER.BXY 1443968 37 Cartoon animation on Jupiter
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28492 FISH2.BXY 630144 36 Animation of aquarium
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28460 PLAYBALL.BXY 917592 33 Baseball INIs & Slide Show.
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28530 PLAYCD.BXY 16896 32 Play CDs with RamFAST card and CDA
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28496 INVOKE.BXY 491904 29 Animation of metallic woman
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28458 ALMP9704.HC.BXY 83456 27 GenieLamp A2, Apr. 1997 (HyperCard)
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28483 COUNT2.BXY 1114752 25 Animation of a neat countdown
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28472 BURGER.BXY 1136384 25 Animation of building a burger
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SLDEMO2.0.BXY The Shifty List v2.0 demo by Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd is a
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""""""""""""" utility that allows you to select which extensions and desk
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accessories are loaded when you shift-boot your Apple IIgs. (The first
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release of Shifty List, version 1.0, appeared on issue #57 of _Softdisk
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G-S_ in 1995.) Shareware ($20)
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SPAMMASTER.BXY SpamMaster by Bret "Slixter" Victor is a New Desk
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"""""""""""""" Accessory (NDA) that works with CoPilot to let you reply
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to those who send unsolicited internet E-mail ("spam") to your Genie
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account. Shareware.
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ALMP9704---.BXY Four editions of the February issue of GenieLamp A2
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""""""""""""""" (edited by Ryan Suenaga) grace our Top 10 list this
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month--text file, HyperStudio stack, AppleWorks word processor, and
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HyperCard stack. All editions feature the same great articles--a
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behind-the-scenes interview with the Spectrum Internet Suite development
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team from Max Jones, the return of Peter Brickell's "Real World Apple"
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column, and a "PD_Quickview" column on Change-A-File. (If that seems
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familiar, that's because I goofed and gave that description last month.
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What I meant to say about ALMP9703 was that it includes a look at the Focus
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Hard Card and a caution about believing Internet rumors, particularly those
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from unverified sources.) Freeware.
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JUPITER.BXY In April, Russell Nielson converted a bunch of animations to
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""""""""""" Apple IIgs format, and they make up half of our top 10 list
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this month. This animation is a monochrome look at Lost in Space that
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features a robot, a spaceship, and a surface vehicle. It's 1439K and lasts
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about 1 minute and 12 seconds.
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FISH2.BXY This colourful underwater animation features a entertaining
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""""""""" fish that blows some amusing bubbles. It's 645K (it will fit
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on a 3.5" disk) and lasts about 10 seconds.
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PLAYBALL.BXY A collection of baseball pictures, sounds, and even a little
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"""""""""""" music from Pat Kern--91 desktop backgrounds, 9 conventional
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IIgs pictures, 8 rSounds, and 1 synthLAB song--"Take Me Out to the Ball
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Game". Lots of baseball team logos in this batch, plus a few pictures to
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make you wonder if Ms Kern isn't something of a Cubs fan.
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PLAYCD.BXY Play CD by Aaron Pulver is a beta ("unfinished") version of a
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"""""""""" Classic Desk Accessory (CDA) for RamFAST SCSI card and CD-ROM
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||
owners that will play your audio CDs from any non-desktop
|
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application--including ProDOS 8! It only plays CDs--it can't stop or skip
|
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tracks or rewind. It works with CD drives with ID strings of APPLE, SONY,
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TEXEL, ShinaKen, NEC, and has been found to work with the second-hand
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Toshiba drives Vitesse was selling. Freeware.
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INVOKE.BXY This animation features a metallic female form genuflecting in
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"""""""""" from of a cube... no, it's a sphere... no, wait.... Anyway,
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it's 503K (it will fit on a 3.5" disk) and lasts about 4 seconds.
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COUNT2.BXY This animation may be useful for video producers out
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"""""""""" there--it's an updated film leader that counts from 10 down to
|
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2. Unfortunately, the timing isn't quite right, so each count takes longer
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than a second, but with some animation viewers you can adjust the speed to
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fix this. This animation is 1340K and lasts about 17 seconds.
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BURGER.BXY This animation shows you the necessary layers in order to
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"""""""""" create a perfect hamburger. The animation file is 1247K and
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lasts about 28 seconds.
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