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SUBJECT: ORLANDO, FL ABDUCTION REPORT FILE: UFO1599
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Preliminary MUFON
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Sighting Report
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James S. Greenen
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12233 Pantar St.
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Orlando,FL 32821
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June 10, 1989
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Subject: Orlando MUFON Case #1, Preliminary Report
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Report Type: CE-4
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Report Date: June 10, 1989
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Sighting Date: April 29, 1989
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Time of Sighting: After 11:30 PM
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location: Central Florida
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Local Evaluation: Unknown of Great Significance
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Investigators: James S. Greenen- Field Investigator
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Sandy Shanklin- Field Investigator Trainee
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BACKGROUND
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This case was assigned to the investigator by the State Director on May 1, 1989.
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He learned of it from Dr. Dan Overlade in Pensacola, FL who was called by the
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witness father. The witness father had gotten Dr. Overlade number from Budd
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Hopkins. the witness, who we will call Roger R. age 10, wishes to remain
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anonymous. His father was called on May the 3rd, and the initial interview was
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conducted on May 6, 1989.
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Although the witness had a severe cough and their were distractions from his
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younger brother, their was a considerable amount of information recorded on the
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3 hours of tapes during the interview. Follow-up interview was held on May 7th
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and on May 30 and 31 Donald Ware came to Orlando to assist in the investigation.
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THE INTERVIEW
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The accounts that Roger R. mentions through out this story are sometimes not in
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the actual sequence that it happen but in the order as he told his story. For
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the purpose of clarity, when Roger mentions his father, he is referring to his
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step father that he now lives with unless otherwise stated.
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Roger went to bed on Saturday night at 11:00 PM, April 29, 1989 after watching
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Star Trek on television. Sometime after Roger went to sleep (time unknown) he
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heard sounds like voices, he woke up and saw 4 entities about 5' 6'' tall. They
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(the entities) put Roger on a table like device that had no legs or supports.
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The table was white, glass like and about 2' wide and 6' long, Roger said that a
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person could not see through it.
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The entities put Roger on the table and they floated him over to the bedroom
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window and at that time Roger told them that if they opened the window the
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burglar alarm would go off (Radio Shack-battery powered with manually activated
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switch). Then they informed him that it would not go off, and when they took
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out the screen and opened the window, the alarm was silent. The entities floated
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the table, with Roger on it, out the window and along the side of the apartment
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to a small open field. They approached a craft that was shaped like two plates,
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one inverted over the other.
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INTO A CRAFT
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Roger saw a door, into a craft hinged at the bottom, that opened up on the side
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of the craft. The inside of the door was flat, had lights along the edge, and
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served as a ramp to enter the craft. At that time Roger does not remember what
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happen, but the next thing that he remembered he was in a room standing next to
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a black glass table with buttons on it.
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Roger said the entities had heart shaped heads with two giant black eyes, two
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holes for a nose, a slit for a mouth and were gold in color. When they talk to
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him it was through his head, and he talked in a normal voice. (when asked to use
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Zipatone color codes for skin color, he chose 2525 for the males and 2517 (a
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more brownish color) for the females)
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One of the entities pushed a button on the table and the floor lit up. There was
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a large screen in the room with a panel under it. On the panel there were
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numerous buttons. Roger said that one of the entities pushed a button and the
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craft went straight up off the ground into the atmosphere, this he saw on the
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screen. The screen, that Roger was watch ing, was about 6' long and 4' high.
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Roger said that he felt no sensation of movement when the ship went up and he
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saw no stars on the screen.
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They asked Roger what he was and he replied that he was a human and a boy. They
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then asked him what his name was, and he answered Roger. Then they told him
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that they knew his parents.
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They took Roger to another room and showed him a film of his friend Nancy in a
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hospital. They said that they could not let him see all of the film, because
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there were too many things in the hospital that caused interference on the
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screen. He asked them where Nancy was, and they said that she was on another
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ship and she will not be reborn because she had been born to many times. They
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also told him that his mother is going to get a good job and make a lot of
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money. They showed him the building that she will be working in, orange with
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mirrors on the outside. They showed him the past, where a boy in a blue bedroom
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that asked his mother if he could come out . She said, "Not till your father
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comes home". One more thing that they showed Roger was a small girl going into
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a ship, and they were studying her.
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When the showing was over they took Roger into another room. At that time he
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mentioned that a small red ball, about the size of a golf ball had been
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following him. The ball-like object had a blue, red and yellow ring around it.
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After entering the room, Roger said a small device that looked like a micro chip
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floated over to him, and a small probe came out and took a sample from a sore
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spot that he had on his finger. After the sample was taken the skin sample was
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sucked into the device. Then the chip like device floated over to a computer
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type device and the results of the sample were checked.
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Roger also mentioned that he had a number of sores before he entered the craft,
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but after entering they disappeared. He says that they brought back the one sore
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so they could take a sample.
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They took him to another table where a man was sitting up. He was about 30 yrs
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old with blond hair and a mustache. Roger did not talk to him. Then he was taken
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over to another panel where they told him to push two buttons which he did.
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Roger asked them why they wanted him to push the buttons. They said, "To take a
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blood sample", and they knew that he was afraid of needles.
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Next they went into another room, and he started to feel the ship shake. The
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door that led to the outside of the ship opened up. Through this door Roger saw
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the inside of another ship. They told him to get back on the platform that he
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came in on, and he was floated out the door into a larger craft.
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INTO A LARGER CRAFT
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Roger said the ship was large, about the size of 4 apartment complexes like they
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live in. They told Roger that the ship was too large to land on earth. The
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inside of the ship was white. They removed his night clothes and gave him a red
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suit that clung to him. He describes it as looking like the clothing used in
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Star Trek. The suit had writing on it that he could not understand. He describes
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the writing as a form of hieroglyphics. When Roger entered the larger craft, he
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said that the small red ball that followed him through the smaller craft stayed
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there. When he entered the larger craft another ball followed him through out
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the craft. This ball looked just like the red one except it was blue in color.
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Both balls hovered about 3" over his head and occasionally omitted a red beam
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over his body. He mentioned that they were taking brain scans.
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After Roger put on the clothes they took him into a room and told him that they
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have the ability to make themselves any shape they wanted. But the bodies that
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he now sees are their natural bodies. They also said they have been visiting his
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brother often. (His brother is three years old)
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They showed Roger a map on the wall. It was of America. He said that they
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started going straight at a point on the map which he recognized as Alaska, and
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they said that some of their people are there. The aliens then showed him a man
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in Alaska that heard some noise, and when the man saw them he started to call
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them the devil. The man took a gun and shot at them. They left because they
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told Roger that they were peaceful people.
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They also told Roger that they hid some books by Shirley McLaine from his Dad.
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They said that the books were wrong, and she wrote them just for money. They
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also opened the book Communion to page 112 and left it popped open on the
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bookshelf.
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This they wanted his dad to read. They told Roger they had to leave because
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they were afraid that his dad might catch them. The inside of his house and the
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entity hiding the books was all projected on a screen in the craft. Note:
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later his dad said the book incident happened a few weeks before and that he
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accuse Roger of hiding and rearranging the books.
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They left and went into another room that was square and had buttons located on
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the walls. This room also had a screen on which they showed Roger in bed at
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home, and his father came into the room to check on him. They said that he can
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be on the ship and be at home at the same time. They told Roger that this is
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happening now.
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The aliens took Roger into another room that he described as round or circular
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shape. In the middle of the room there was an object that looked like large
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clear glass box with two buttons on the side. Roger said that it was as tall as
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two people standing on top of each other, and that two fat people could get into
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it. They opened the door to the box and had Roger step into it. Then closed the
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door behind him. The entities went to a computer-like device and started to push
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buttons on the computer. At that time a flat, square, red laser-type light went
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down over his head to his shoulders and went back up. Later they told him that
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they were taking a brain scan. They removed him from the box and brought him
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over to the computer. Brought up on the screen a picture of Roger when he has
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about two years old and living in a apartment in Texas. There was a red spot on
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the wall that kept getting larger.
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Roger went into another room that was all black. They asked him what he would
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like to do. He told them he would like to go skiing, and they said that he will
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be going skiing when he reaches the age of 13. At that time they projected a 3-D
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picture in the middle of the room of him skiing down a slope when he is older.
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Roger said that he could feel the cold when he was watching the picture. Then
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they asked Roger where he would like to go, and he responded by saying, "I don't
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know". They said that he might be moving to some place in the United States or
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Germany.
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Roger entered another room after they left the black room. Here he said the room
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also had a screen on the wall, but this one was about twice as large as the
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others. The room looked like a hospital room. It had tables and the ceiling was
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like a solid light. On the screen they showed Roger the time he and his parents
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almost got into a car accident on the way to Dayton a Beach. They said that they
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turned the car instead of his dad turning the car to avoid the accident that was
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about to happen. They also told him what his dad thought was an airplane he was
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watching on the way home from Orlando was actually them. They then took a light
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and shined it along side Roger's arm. Then they took a glass light bar,
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described as looking like a fluorescent light bulb with multicolored lights and
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told him to lay down on the table. They then passed the light over his body.
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Roger was taken to a round room that he said was in the middle of the ship. It
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took a long time to get to it. In the room there were some aliens that were
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different. They looked like the others, but their skin appeared "orange"
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(Zipatone #2517) rather then gold. Their eyes were blurry black, and they had
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only three fingers. He asked about them and was told that they were women. Also,
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in the room there was a very large alien that Roger said he only came up to the
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middle of his thighs. He looked liked the others except he was wearing a robe
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that had a hood. Around his neck and down to his knees hung a scarf type cloth
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with writing on it. Another alien had blue clothes on like Roger was wearing and
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was about his height. Roger mentioned this alien had muscular arms and looked
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like he could throw somebody across the room with no problems. There was another
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alien that was just a little smaller than the larger one but he was wearing a
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black cape and a helmet. All three left the room while Roger was still there.
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They asked Roger how his people produce, and Roger replied by asking them how
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they produce. They replied that they can not answer that and repeated the
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question to him. Roger answered, "from his mother". Roger also asked them how
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they eat, and they said some what like he does but a lot less quantity. They
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told Roger that his younger brother will be repeating the first or second grade
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in school. ( note: at this time, Roger said that some of these things that they
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told him was asked in the smaller ship )
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After they left that room, they went into another room that was rather large. It
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had a lot of glass cages with animals in them. The animals looked similar to
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the animals that we have on this planet (cheetah, snakes, birds, fish ) but
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some were different. One looked like part tiger and part alligator. Another
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looked like part lion and part bear. Roger said that they just walked through
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that room with out stopping. They told Roger that his teachers were not telling
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him the truth in school, because at one time there were people living on Mars.
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Then they told him about his grandfather in Germany . On the first planet he was
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killed and then reborn on this planet. The first planet is not in this solar
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system, and it was destroyed. It is now an asteroid belt. The aliens treat this
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planet better than the first planet, because our ancestors ( from the first
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planet ) would kill anything or everything on the first planet. Before the first
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planet was destroyed they brought some of the people to this planet. They also
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said that they made this planet.
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At that time, Roger said that they left the large ship and went back into the
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smaller craft. They took him back home, but instead of taking him back through
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the window, they took him through the front door and then him to his room. They
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told him that they would be back to see him in a couple of weeks or months. ( he
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wasn't sure).
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After the interview with Roger I asked him if he could remember anything else
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that the aliens told him. He said that he did but could not tell me because he
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was afraid that he would get N.A.S.A. mad at him. I assured him that I would not
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tell N.A.S.A. His father also told him that I don't work for the government and
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its was okay to tell me.
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This is what Roger had to say. When he was in one of the rooms in the large
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ship, the aliens showed him on one of the screens a large room with men walking
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around with blue coats. A patch was on the arm with the letters "N.A.S.A"., The
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men were also wearing a face mask that Roger described as looking like a
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radiation mask. In the room there were 4 or 5 aliens, and the men in lab coats
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were sticking needles into some aliens and telling them that it will not hurt.
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But the aliens told Roger that they were dying. Roger noticed that the aliens
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were turning a different color, between yellow a nd green.
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As Roger was watching the screen (later he said that this was the worst part of
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the trip) they showed the men chopping up the aliens (Rogers words) and using
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them for experiments. They also told Roger about the men in black. Roger asked
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them who they were and they said the men in black are N.A.S.A..
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At this time in the interview, Roger felt uneasy and wanted reassurance that
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N.A.S.A. would not find out about this because he didn't want to get into
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trouble.
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Roger continued on and said that when the aliens are on the planet surface
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trying to help us, the men in black capture them, perform experiments on them
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and don't seem to care if they kill them.
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Roger also mentioned that the room that they showed on the screen had other
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doors in it. One of the doors looked like it was made of steel and had a round
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window in it, and the words HOT ???? (he did not know what the other word was).
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They showed the men taking the aliens into the HOT room and then, after removing
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them , they would cut them into pieces and run a test. Along with the HOT room
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there was a COLD room and a room that was used for acid experiments.
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The aliens told Roger, that when one of their people died they can make another
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one but sometimes they would die inside also. I asked Roger to explain that, and
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he said that he thinks they were taking about there soul. He said that the
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aliens told him that when a person dies, sometimes they are reborn. And if they
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are not reborn they stay with them, A person can be reborn a thousand times, and
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they said they are the ones that made the people on this planet. They also told
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Roger that there are some of their people living on this planet that look just
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like he does.
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A few other things that were mentioned during this part of the interview:
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1. They said they did not know what is happening to the ships in the Bermuda
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Triangle.
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2. They said the reason that his father is always tried is that they are trying
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to teach him and he is not listening to them, also his father forgets when
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they take him on board their ship. They said that the next time that they
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take his father he will remember everything.
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3. They said the men in black won't be N.A.S.A. anymore, they would be history,
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and it's the big men in N.A.S.A. that are ordering the test on the aliens.
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The workers do not want to do this but are told that they would be fired if
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they don't do what they are told.
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4. The morning after the apparent abduction, when Roger woke up, he looked out
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his bedroom window and notice that a black 4-door Ford was sitting on the
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other side of the parking lot in the grass. He got his binocular and saw a
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man in a suit with dark glasses on facing him . When the man noticed Roger he
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started his car and turned around in the grass and left in a hurry. As the
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car left, Roger said the license plate had "Government" written on it.
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5. During that day and into the next day after the apparent abduction, Rogers
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father said that there were many government helicopters flying around and
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over his house. NOTE: Rogers father spent most of his life on government
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bases around the world. He says that he is familiar with government
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helicopters and aircraft.
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6. Roger mentioned that on one of the viewing screens, they showed him a man in
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a suit jumping over a fence outside of his father room. This they showed in
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slow motion. Roger said that the man cut his leg on a nail that was sticking
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out and he was holding his leg as he jump into a car that was waiting for
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him. He mentioned that the car looked like the one that was outside his room
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the next morning.
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About two weeks before, Rogers father notice a man looking into his bedroom
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window, he rushed outside and observed a man jumping the fence along side the
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apartment. The man landed in some shrubs, picked himself up, ran over to a car
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that was waiting for him. What he said was unusual about this incident was the
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man was wearing a suit.
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Before the end of the interview with Roger he drew sketches of;
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1. The aliens that took him from his room.
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2. The small ball with a ring around it.
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3. The micro chip-type device that took skin samples.
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4. The first craft that he was in.
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5. The second or larger craft.
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6. The inside of one of the rooms that shows control panel and viewing screen wi
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th picture of two aliens.
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7. A picture of another alien, with clothing, that was aboard the large craft.
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THE INVESTIGATION
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After the interview with Roger, a search of the area that Roger said the craft
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landed. The area showed no signs of physical traces. There were patches of dead
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grass and dead branches laying on the ground but could not find any depressions
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or other evidence that we could link with the sighting.
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Rogers father mention that after the incident, he notice that Roger has become
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better behaved and more affectionate now to both parents.
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Roger step-father seems to be a person highly dedicated toward service to
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others. When he read communion he recognize similar events in his own life and
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read many resent UFO publications. A list of these publications that were in the
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home is attached. Many of the controversial issues involved in Rogers testimony
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are discussed in this publication.
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Rogers mother mentioned that her father was a officer in the military and she re
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members that he was visited by three men in black. She was also at the interview
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and concurs with what Roger and her husband said.
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It seems unreasonable to assume that Roger had read these books because of the
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first week in June, Rogers CTVS test showed that he was in the bottom 8 % in
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reading comprehension which is extremely low. His reading problem has been
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recognized and has been tested. We will have a opportunity to retest him later.
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In the following weeks, with Rogers direction, his father made more detail
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drawings in color of:
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1. The lay-out of the inside of the smaller craft.
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2. A more detail drawing of the small red ball with ring.
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3. A more detail drawing of micro-type chip.
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4. Roger in his bedroom with alien.
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5. A alien that was in his room.
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On May 31, 1989 a inquiry of the local Police and Sheriff Dept. turned up no
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reports of sightings within the period before and after the incident. A ad was
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also placed in the local newspaper seeking UFO witnesses in the past 6 weeks,
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and as of this report no response has come from the local community. (a alias
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was used with a local phone number of a friend to avoid a disclosure of our
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interest).
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Rogers father work associate was asked about his character and honesty and he
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replied "Hard worker, reliable, decision maker and talkative".
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Character check was made with a person that Roger works for (he delivers
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newspapers) and she replied that" he is a normal 10 yr. old, quiet at times and
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very nice".
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EVALUATION
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At this early point in the investigation this case is considered an unknown of
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great significance; because the 10-year-old boy apparently had no memory block
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while on board two UFO's, and his father seems convinced he could not have made
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it up. The father said they showed him things about the past that the boy could
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not have known normally. This case involves many of the most controversial
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issues in ufology.
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James S. Greenen
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MUFON State Section Director
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