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The following is a collection of all the postings that have appeared in the
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RISKS Digest over the past couple weeks on the subject of Automatic Number
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Identification and related telecom issues. I thought it was worthwhile to
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get this info into the Telecom archives in addition to its being in RISKS.
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It appears the discussion has ended on RISKS, so I'm sending this now.
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There's enough of it that the moderator may want to make it an FTP-able
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file instead of sending out to the list.
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Regards, Will Martin
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Date: Thu, 01 Sep 88 09:10:40 PDT
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From: jon@june.cs.washington.edu (Jon Jacky)
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Subject: "Pizzamation" traces phone calls, matches addresses
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Excerpted from a story in THE SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER,
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18 August 1988, pps. B5 and B8:
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CHAINS ARE PUTTING THE BYTE ON PIZZA DELIVERIES by Jim Erickson
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Tim Turnpaugh was caught off guard recently when he telephoned for a pizza
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to be delivered to his home. When he got the pizza company on the line,
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the person taking orders greeted him by name like an old friend -- before
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Turnpaugh could identify himself -- and cheerily asked if he'd like the same
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toppings he asked for on a previous order.
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"I didn't have to give them directions to my house, nothing," he said.
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Everything the company needed to know was gathered during a previous purchase
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and stored in the memory of a computer, ready for instant regurgitation.
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This is the brave new world of pizzamation.
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Godfather's pizza in Washington [state] is one such firm on the cutting edge
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of pizza technology. Inside a gray-walled, nondescript building in a
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Renton [Seattle suburb] business park, 80 desktop computers are lined up in
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rows at Godfather's state communications center. Not a single pizza oven is
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in sight. On a hectic Friday night, as many as 50 part-time employees sit in
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front of the tricolor screens, taking orders. ... If you've called before,
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the computer instantly identifies and recognizes your telephone number, and
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retrieves information from previous orders. "Customers don't even know a
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lot of the time they've reached a centralized system," said Donna Brown,
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manager of the center. "They still think they're calling a local restaurant."
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...
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After the order is placed, the computer decides which of 51 restaurants or
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outlets in Western Washington, or 10 in Eastern Washington, is closest to the
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customer. The computer totals the price and relays the order and delivery
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instructions to the kitchen of a restaurant or outlet, where it comes out on
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a network printer. ...
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Brown said the system allows the company to keep track of sales data, and
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since it records addresses -- more than 500,000 are stored in Godfather's
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memory banks -- it can be used for direct-mail marketing. ...
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Cathy Nichols, owner of four franchised Domino's Pizza stores in Renton
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and Maple Valley, installed computers early this year ... Since the computer
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matches phone numbers with addresses, it also helps smoke out young pranksters
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who habitually order unwanted pizzas for the unsuspecting. ...
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[Not if they are smart enough to read a phone book. PGN]
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Some customers may worry that their local pizza retailer may be keeping records
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on their eating habits as well as detailed directions to their house. It can
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be unsettling to think that the Big Cheese is watching you. Nichols
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acknowledged that large, centralized systems are "kind of scary." "There's one
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number in the state that you call, and they know everything about you."
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Bill Brown of Godfather's said she could recall only three people who asked
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that their records be purged, and only because they didn't want to wind up
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on mailing lists. Their records were immediately removed, she said, adding
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that Godfather's does not sell its mailing list to other companies.
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[This is the first confirmed report I have seen of marketing outfits tracing
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calls, although I have heard rumors of other systems in which calling an 800-
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number in response to some promotion would put your phone number on a list that
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would later be matched in order to derive your name and address. It is my
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observation that most people believe that "tracing a call" is still a
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difficult, time consuming process that cannot be done routinely. This story
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shows that it is a service phone companies offer to commercial customers,
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although I have not seen any reports of it also being offered to residential
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customers (who would then be able to ignore calls from marketers, cranks, etc.)
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Jonathan Jacky, University of Washington]
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[In an unrelated development, some of the pizza outfitters are selling
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leather pizza outfits -- that is, protective clothing for the pizzas. If
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the pizza chains are going into leather, maybe S&M now stands for salami
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and mushrooms. PGN]
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 88 22:22:08 EDT
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From: Mark W. Eichin <eichin@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>
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Subject: Calling party identification
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>... It is my observation that most people believe that "tracing a call" is
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>still a difficult, time consuming process that cannot be done routinely. This
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>story shows that it is a service phone companies offer to commercial
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>customers, although I have not seen any reports of it also being offered to
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>residential customers ...
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I believe the New Jersey telco offered digital display of incoming number to
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private subscribers a year ago; here at MIT, with the installation of a 5ESS
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system with full ISDN support available to offices, the digital set
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automatically displays the phone number the call came from (if it was within
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MIT; apparently there isn't software in place to track calls from other
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switches yet, the display merely indicates "Outside"). The documentation for
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the dormitory phones included mention of a ``privacy code'' which meant dialing
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65 before any phone number; the pamphlet with the phone didn't actually explain
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what the privacy code *did* however.
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Mark Eichin, SIPB Member & Project Athena ``Watchmaker''
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 88 22:42 EDT
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From: TMPLee@DOCKMASTER.ARPA
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Subject: Calling party identification Phone number tracing
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Our local cable company must use the same kind of connection to the phone
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company that the pizza place mentioned in RISKS-7.42 does. They have several
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pay-by-view channels and a set of incoming phone numbers. To order a
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pay-by-view event all you do is dial something like 938-77xx where the xx is
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the "ordering" code for the particular movie or live event (local sports, etc.)
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you want. A computer answers the call and is somehow told where the call was
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from; it looks that up in a data base, finds the i.d. of your cable box and
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enables the show. (It goes on your bill, of course.) Rather clever, actually:
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no human operators and it works from either a dial phone or a touch tone phone.
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Don't use it much, and apart from misdialling the only "risk" I have is
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remembering to use line 1 rather than line 2.
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Ted Lee
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 88 19:57:52 xDT
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From: [anonymous]
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Subject: Calling party identification
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While there is work going on to allow for the identification of calling parties
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by the callee, such systems are not generally implemented and won't be for some
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time to come. There are some limited test projects, but I don't believe that
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any large-scale operation of the sort implied is currently operational.
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Most likely what is actually happening is that the first question people are
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asked when they call the pizza folks is "what is your phone number?" Then
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the computer operator punches that in and up pops all the info from any
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previous call. It is unlikely that they are receiving the calling party's
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number in realtime. It IS true that with some long-distance carriers' 800
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callers numbers are made available to the callee, but this is done on a
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billing cycle basis (i.e., in the billing statement) and not in realtime.
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If it turns out the pizza folks ARE receiving the number ID in realtime,
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then they are in one of the test groups and one can't help but wonder how
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many folks in the area realize the ramifications of this all (see below).
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Now, in the middle future the issue of the callee being able to receive the
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number of the caller will be a significant one for us all. The technology is
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being put into place. At first glance, many people might say, "Gee, how neat,
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I'll know the numbers of the phone solicitors who bother me." But think again.
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It would work both ways. Do you really want YOUR phone number recorded (and
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possibly later called back with solicitations, matched with addresses for
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mailings, etc.) whenever you call a business, possibly from your private line
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you only intend to use for outgoing calls, or from some friend's house or
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business from where you happened to make the call? If you make a business call
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from home, do you necessarily want the person receiving the call to immediately
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have your home number? Do they have any right to that number rather than
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calling you back on the office number you might give them? There are a variety
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of complex ramifications.
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Even worse, if YOU could see the callers' numbers on calls YOU receive, you
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might be disappointed at much of what you'd see. Most big solicitation
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businesses use special outward-calls-only trunking groups; you would frequently
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see undialable numbers like 012-4161 on your display. Such info isn't going to
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do you a lot of good without a lot of hassling with telco for info (which they
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might well be unwilling to give you).
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And what about obscene phone calls and such? Won't this system help stop them?
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Well, maybe some dummies would get caught, but there are one hell of a lot of
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payphones out there and people could easily move from one to another
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indefinitely...
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The issue of privacy of callers' numbers is thus more complicated than it might
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appear at first. Some proposals call for unlisted numbers not to routinely
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display on callee displays. Some other plans propose a control prefix (e.g.
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"*21") which you could dial before dialing a phone number if you want to block
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number display for that particular call.
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All in all the issues involved are quite complex. The time to start thinking
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about them is now.
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Date: Sat, 3 Sep 88 13:17:29 CDT
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From: mayo@cs.wisc.edu (Bob N. Mayo @ U.W. Madison Computer Sciences)
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Subject: Re: "Pizzamation"
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Godfather's Pizza [phone (206) 223-1111] claims that they don't get told the
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customer's phone number. This contradicts the previous article which claims
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that they automatically receive your number, that is then used to display
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your "pizza-history".
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When I called them to ask about this, Godfather's claimed that they ask you
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for your phone number and then set up an "account" for you. They specifically
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stated that they do not automatically receive customer's phone numbers.
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Can anybody account for this discrepancy? I can think of several
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possibilities:
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+ The previous article was in error.
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+ They have discontinued this practice. (Perhaps due to poor reception
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from the public?)
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+ Godfather's didn't tell me the truth.
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Anybody know?
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--Bob
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[Most likely the first one. PGN]
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Date: Sat, 3 Sep 88 02:08:10 EDT
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From: netxcom!ewiles@uunet.UU.NET (Edwin Wiles)
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Subject: Re: Pizzamation and FGD lines...
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Organization: NetExpress Communications, Inc., Vienna, VA
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On a standard telephone line, it is still difficult to 'trace a call'. In
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all probability these businesses are using what are known as "Feature Group
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D" lines; which have aprox 6 to 8 wires, as compared to the 2 to 4 wires of
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a normal telephone line.
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Feature Group D service is designed to tell you both the number dialed,
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and the number that is doing the dialing. The extra lines are used for
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signaling the address information.
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[I know whereof I speak, our company is using FGD lines, and I had to design
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a program to interface with the phone company protocols. Not easy....]
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Yes, personally I would like one of these lines, with a smart phone to
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block unwanted calls. However, such phones already exist, that work over
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standard phone lines, the caller simply has to punch a few more digits
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(like a PIN) to let your phone know that they are allowed to talk to you.
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The nice thing about a FGD line, is that you can reject the call without
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actually having answered it, thereby allowing the caller to avoid paying
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the phone company for a call that you'd reject anyway.
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Edwin Wiles, NetExpress Comm., Inc., 1953 Gallows Rd. Suite 300 Vienna, VA 22180
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Date: Sat Sep 3 13:25:31 1988
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From: sun!portal!cup.portal.com!Patrick_A_Townson@unix.SRI.COM
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Subject: Automatic Number ID: Great Idea!
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[Note: This address for PAT is bogus, and does not work. Try
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"sun!portal!cup.portal.com!username"@Sun.COM or
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"sun!portal!cup.portal.com!username"@uunet.UU.NET]
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A recent article here by Anonymous warned of the 'dire consequences' all of
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us would face when Automatic Number Identification on a real time basis
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became a routine feature.
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I have to disagree, wholeheartedly. ANI will be one of the best, and most
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useful additions to telephony that I can think of.
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I consider an unsolicited phone call to be an invasion of my privacy. If you
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feel you have the right to call me and refuse to identify yourself, then I
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maintain I have the right to come to your front door and refuse to identify
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myself.
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While it is true, as Anonymous pointed out that phone solicitors and the like
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frequently work from phones with special types of circuit numbers which cannot
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be easily traced by someone with ANI, the fact remains that ANI will bring a
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virtual halt to most of the hacking and phreaking and obscene calls which
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plague many people. Yes, as Anonymous points out (an appropriate handle,
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considering the gist of his message, no?) people can move around from one
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payphone to another, endlessly, continuing to create their havoc in whatever
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form it takes, but in reality, most people will not take portable modems and
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terminals with them to the pay phone on the corner just so they can call
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someone's BBS and harass them Anonymously.
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Having ANI implemented will simply make it too inconvenient for most of the
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low-life scum who hide behind their telephone to continue their practices. As
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for legitimate reasons to not want your number displayed to the called party,
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I can't think of any. Again, you have to make the analogy of going to see
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someone in person. It is completely unfair and unrealistic to say that you
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have the right to disturb someone at whatever they were doing and that they
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in turn have no right to demand to know who you are.
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In summary, I believe you have the right to use the phone as a method of
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quick, almost instant communication with others. You do not have the right
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to use the phone as a way to remain Anonymous. Having a non-published number
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is a different matter altogether, since you are protecting yourself against
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persons who might call you. The way you protect your privacy when calling
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someone else is to *simply not make the call at all* if there is something
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which will be said which you would not want traced back to yourself.
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Anonymous is also making the assumption that the people who aquire your number
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via ANI will automatically abuse the information. This is mostly false.
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If and when ANI at the subscriber level becomes available here in Chicago, I
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will be one of the first to subscribe. And when a call is received and the
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read out shows that the person has deliberatly blocked their number from my
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view, I will probably answer the phone and state that they are welcome to call
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back making the information available, and pending that action, the present
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call is being terminated now. (click).
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Patrick Townson
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Date: Tue, 6 Sep 88 13:47:33 EDT
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From: Jerome H. Saltzer <Saltzer@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>
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Subject: Automatic Number ID: Great Idea! (RISKS-7.44)
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In "Automatic Number ID: Great Idea!", Patrick Townson makes several
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good arguments favoring Automatic Number Identification (ANI). I
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agree that on balance ANI will be a good thing once the novelty wears
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off and people become accustomed to the new rules of the game. But
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Townson may be carrying a good argument a little too far when he
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says,
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> As for legitimate reasons to not want your number displayed to
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> the called party, I can't think of any.
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I assume that he took that somewhat polar position in order to draw
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out suggestions for legitimate reasons, so here are a couple of cases
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in which maintaining the privacy of the caller does seem to make some sense:
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1. Hotlines (e.g., drug-abuse and suicide) and police
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department tip numbers depend on anonymity of the caller to
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perform a function that is usually considered to have some value
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to society. Some police departments maintain a line separate
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from 911 (which often has an ANI feature) just for this purpose.
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If the caller of a hotline knew that the calling number would be
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automatically recorded, at least some of the information that
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flows in this way would dry up, and some of the help dispensed
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this way would not be. (The technique of dialing a prefix code
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to block automatic number identification caters to this
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requirement. I doubt that many hotlines would take Townson's
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hard-nosed approach and refuse to accept a call from a
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prospective suicide who has blocked ANI.)
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2. When a private party calls on a "big organization," (for
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example, making ten queries to stock trading companies about their
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commission rates in anticipation of opening one account) there is
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an understandable preference for not leaving one's number,
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simply to avoid unwanted followup calls (e.g., from hungry
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brokers). Again, the ANI-blocking prefix satisfies this
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requirement, because no hungry stockbroker is going to refuse a
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call that sounds like it comes from a promising prospect.
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Townson's polar position might be plausible if you assume telephones
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are answered only by private individuals. He is well-advised to
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refuse anonymous calls to his bulletin board and welcome to refuse
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them at his private phone. But I believe that the need for blocking
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ANI remains for other situations.
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Jerry
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Date: Tue, 06 Sep 88 17:30:25 EDT
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From: Bruce O'Neel <XRBEO%VPFVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
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Subject: Re: Display of telephone numbers on receiving party's phone
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I much prefer using a prefix ( *21 say) only when you WANT the number
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to be known, rather than when you DO NOT want the callee to see it.
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bruce
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Date: Tue, 6 Sep 88 20:28+0100
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From: C H Longmore <CCAse7-16@birmingham.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Telephones and Privacy
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Patrick Townson's article in RISKS 7.44 states:
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> Having ANI implemented will simply make it too inconvenient for most of the
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> low-life scum who hide behind their telephone to continue their practices.
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> As for legitimate reasons to not want your number displayed to the called
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> party, I can't think of any. Again, you have to make the analogy of going
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> to see someone in person. It is completely unfair and unrealistic to say
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> that you have the right to disturb someone at whatever they were doing and
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> that they in turn have no right to demand to know who you are.
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How could you apply this to a situation where [as in the UK] certain police
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forces operate systems whereby people can give information to the police
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*anonymously* by calling a device as simple as an answering machine?
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How could you apply it to a situation where a potential customer wishes to
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obtain a quote by phone *without* running the risk of that company using the
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information so gained to apply the hard-sell.
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Can you imagine someone using a confidential medical advice line (such as an
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AIDS advisory service) if there was a possibility of the call being easily
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traced?
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How many people would telephone up the Samaritans if their number wasn't
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confidential?
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In the UK these are not problems.... yet. Our current telephone network is
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not capable of supporting these features.... yet.
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It *should* be possible to conceal your own telephone number from the person
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you are calling.. however, it is also the right of the person receiving the
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call to refuse to communicate with anybody who does not want his/her telephone
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number revealed. The latter is easy enough to implement.... a simple
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user-settable switch on the telephone is all that is needed.
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The 'privacy' argument has two sides.... it is the right of an individual
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*not* to have their phone number displayed, but it is also the right of the
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individual *not* to answer anonymous calls. A problem to which the solution
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seems easy enough.... (now prove otherwise!)
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Conrad H Longmore
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Computer Science Dept, University of Birmingham, Birmingham B15 2TT, UK.
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email: CCAse7-16%multics.bham.ac.uk@cunyvm.cuny.edu
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Date: Tue, 6 Sep 88 22:41 MDT
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From: MCCLELLAND_G%CUBLDR@VAXF.COLORADO.EDU
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Subject: Automatic Call Tracing and 911 Emergency Numbers
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Our local county government just worked a deal whereby for a small fee added
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to each customer's phone bill, the county's centralized 911 emergency
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switchboard would be provided with a display of all incoming phone numbers
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and addresses. I'm rather glad that the next time I call 911 all that
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information will be communicated automatically (but I hope it will still be
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verified orally whenever possible). However, I suppose that once we pay for
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the installation of the necessary technology the local telco will be able to
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sell it as a service to other businesses. As previous notes have suggested,
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there are many privacy issues to consider here but there are benefits that
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also need to be considered as well.
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Gary McClelland
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Date: Tue, 6 Sep 88 11:00:22 PDT
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From: Andrew Klossner <andrew%frip.gwd.tek.com@RELAY.CS.NET>
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Subject: Automatic Number ID: Bad Idea!
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[This discussion has gotten pretty far from RISKS.]
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"I consider an unsolicited phone call to be an invasion of my
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privacy. If you feel you have the right to call me and refuse
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to identify yourself, then I maintain I have the right to come
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to your front door and refuse to identify myself."
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This is the wrong analogy. Consider a world in which, when you wonder
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into a shop with an idle question, the shopkeeper can, without your
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permission, divine your identity. There's a world of difference
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between "Good afternoon, what's your name? If you won't tell me, get
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out" and "Good afternoon, I have recorded your name and there's nothing
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you can do about it."
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[Also remarked upon by Hugh Pritchard. PGN]
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"Anonymous is also making the assumption that the people who
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a[c]quire your number via ANI will automatically abuse the
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information. This is mostly false."
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This is a Pollyanna attitude. I have worked for telephone/junk-mail
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solicitors (in my starving student days) who would drool at the thought
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of abusing this information. As an example of privacy abuse, consider
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Radio Shack's policy of demanding full identification, even of cash
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customers, for purposes of composing a mailing list.
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-=- Andrew Klossner (decvax!tektronix!tekecs!andrew) [UUCP]
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Date: 8 Sep 88 13:41:00 EDT
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From: John (J.) McHarry <MCHARRY@BNR.CA>
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Subject: Calling number delivery
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The telephone feature of delivering the calling number to the terminating
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line is part of a group of features called
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'CLASS', although there are other ways it could be done in certain
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special cases. There are a number of Bellcore publications that
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describe it in some detail. Among these are TR-TSY-000031 on the
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basic feature, (TA) 000030 on the signalling between office and
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customer terminal, 000391 on the feature to block delivery of the
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calling number, 000218 on selective call reject, and (TA) 000220,
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also related to selective call reject. TAs are an early version
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of TRs. If you don't find one in a reference,look for the other.
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There are several other TRs that relate to these features, but this
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list should sate most of us.
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Calling number delivery, selective call reject, and calling number
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delivery blocking are all involved with the 'Signalling System 7' which is just
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beginning to be deployed amongst local exchanges, although some of the long
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distance carriers are much farther along. Among other advantages, SS7 enables
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the transfer of much more information between network nodes than was previously
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generally available. This should allow the introduction of many new network
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services in the near future. On the other hand, CLASS and calling number
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delivery in particular will not likely become common until large areas are cut
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over to SS7, since otherwise they would not work much of the time. (Only within
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the local switching office, or among those that had already implemented SS7)
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It looks to me like a subscriber to calling number delivery gets telemetry
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intended to allow display of the number calling concurrently with ringing. I
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suppose proper customer premise equipment could pick this off and feed it into
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a computer or use it to determine what to do with the call, eg. route to an
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answering machine only if not long distance. If the number isn't available, as
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would be the case if the originating and terminating offices were not linked by
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SS7, the telemetry sends ten 0s. If the number is available but the originator
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is blocking delivery, it sends ten 1s.
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Calling number delivery blocking is itself a CLASS feature that can be set
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on by a service order or, depending upon the tariffed offering, turned on or
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off on a per call basis. How it is offered, if at all, is up to the local
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telco and PUC. The TR makes it look to me like it is not available to party
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line subscribers. I think there is a technical reason for this.
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Selective call reject allows the subscriber to set up a list of up to N
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directory numbers (N might be on the order of 6 to 24) that would be sent to
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'treatment' instead of ringing the subscriber's phone. A caller using blocking
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could be put on this list after one call by using a control that says, in
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effect, add the last caller to my list, but that number could not be read from
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the list by the subscriber. It doesn't look to me like the blocking code
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itself can be put on the list; maybe somebody else knows a way or has tried it.
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Call reject can be turned on or off also, and can be maintained from either a
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DTMF or dial phone.
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There might be something here for everybody. If I can block delivery of
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my number and Mr. Townson can send me to treatment we would be almost as well
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off as with Internet addressing from Bitnet to Portal.
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The foregoing opinions and interpretations are mine, not my employer's.
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My interpretations of the referenced documents are based on a cursory reading.
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They probably contain some errors.
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John McHarry McHarry%BNR.CA.Bitnet@wiscvm.wisc.edu
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Date: Thu, 08 Sep 88 16:47:11 EDT
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From: Robin j. Herbison <LADY%APLVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
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Subject: More on Automatic Call Tracing and 911 Emergency Numbers
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A co-worker of mine called the Police last year to report a burglar alarm in
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his neighborhood which was going off. (He lives in Baltimore County,
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Maryland.) The dispatcher received the phone number, his name and an address
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automatically.
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The 911 dispatcher read back the address that was displayed. It was where they
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had lived two(2!) years previously. When they moved, they kept the old phone
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number and gave the phone company his the address. Unfortunately, the change
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of address was not passed on to 911.
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Although it would be nice to have 911 come if you were in trouble and
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and could only lift the phone, I would like them to arrive at the
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Current address. (I know the people who live at my old address do not
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know my current address, although I assume they have a current phone
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phone book. Since I am listed, They could direct the police to my home.)
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Quite a waste of time, esp. in an emergency.
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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 88 08:38:42 PDT
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From: forags@violet.Berkeley.EDU
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Subject: ANI on 911 calls
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The Alameda County phone book has a privacy notice right below the 911 number
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which warns callers about ANI and advises them to use the regular 7-digit
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number if they don't want their number displayed on the dispatcher's console.
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-Al Stangenberger
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Date: 8 Sep 88 13:15:59 GMT
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From: brent%itm@gatech.edu (Brent)
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Subject: Another ANI scam (Re: RISKS-7.45)
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Here's another scam for ANI. Set up a free phone service:
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time and weather, point spread predictions, sports score line,
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Dow Jones business news brief. It's just a taped message someone
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can call into. Now set up a PC to capture the ANI information on
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people who call. Take the diskette of phone numbers to a service
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that offers CNA (customer name and address) and presto! You have
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yet another profiled mailing list ready to be sold to hungry marketers
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of sports equipment, business journals, etc. Where'd they get MY
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name? you ask. You'll never know.
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ANI is going to be big business. Just north of Atlanta is one of the new
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AT&T regional billing centers. Their goal is to fully integrate ANI with their
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customer inquiry department. So when you call 1-800 whatever, the AT&T rep
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will answer "Good morning Mr. Jones, how's the weather in Macon? I'll bet
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you're calling about that collect call to Bogota." They'll have your name,
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address, and billing info on the screen in front of them as they answer your
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call.
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Hmmm... try forwarding your calls to AT&T. What will happen?
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Brent Laminack (gatech!itm!brent)
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Date: Thu Sep 8 17:48:01 1988
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From: sun!portal!cup.portal.com!Patrick_A_Townson@unix.SRI.COM
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Subject: ANI Response
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Recent correspondents in RISKS have challenged my comment 'no good reason to
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conceal telephone number'. Examples of 'good reasons' include calls to hot
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lines, counseling services, police officials, and others.
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Here in Illinois, the law which enabled 911 Service, and required its
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implementation in all communities in the state also required that every Police
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Department have a seven digit administrative telephone number to receive
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non-emergency calls and calls made 'in confidence' by the caller. The Chicago
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Police Department & Fire Department can be reached through the main centrex
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number for the City of Chicago Offices: 312 - PIG - 4000. To reach individual
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police officers, etc, just dial PIG and the desired 4 digit extension. And
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not that I would expect everyone to know it, but you *can* override ANI on
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911 calls in most cases by knowing which *seven digit number* 911 is translated
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into by your local phone office. Here in Chicago it is (or was) 312-787-0000.
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Calling that number reaches 'Chicago Emergency' just as surely as 911, and
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with only a blank screen for the dispatcher to look at in return. Apparently
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when you dial 911, your central office translates it into a seven digit number
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and sends encoded information containing *your number, and address* to the
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dispatcher when it puts the call through to the ACD (automatic call
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distributor) at the police station.
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Since posting my original article a couple days ago, I have researched this
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a bit further and find the general thinking among folks I have contacted at
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Illinois Bell is that there will be specific exemptions in the tariff for
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calls to crisis lines, counseling services and similar where those groups will
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NOT be permitted to subscribe to ANI signaling service. And those exceptions
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mentioned by the writers here do make good sense.
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As for stockbrokers and others who are likely to try and make a hard sell,
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what do you do now when these people routinely ask for your phone number in
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the process of taking your order/giving information? Refuse to give it? Give
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a false number? Whatever happened to your spines? Just say NO to the broker.
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Just say no to the Operator Who Is Standing By To Take Your Call Now....
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Patrick Townson
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Date: 09 Sep 88 00:30:10 EDT
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From: ROB.B%te-cad.prime.com@RELAY.CS.NET
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Subject: Proposed ANI Enhancement
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If digital data is going to be transmitted with phone calls, why not
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add a "classification code" (perhaps 3 digits) which may optionally be sent
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by the caller. Add to this legislation which requires all human telephone
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solicitors to send a digital class code of "001" with their calls, and all
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tape playing sales machine generated calls to carry a class code of "002".
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The phone company could then offer a "class selection" service whereby the
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subscriber could make his phone inaccessible to selected classes of calls.
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This is not without (manual) precedent. All companies using tape playing sales
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machines within Massachusetts are required by law to check the numbers they
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will call against a phone company maintained list of subscribers who have
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requested not to be bothered by these machines. This list must really work -
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I was on such a list and have only recently begun to recieve that form of
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harrassment, commencing right after my area code was changed from 617 to 508.
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Rob Boudrie
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Date: Fri, 9 Sep 88 10:09:55 EDT
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From: philhowr@unix.cie.rpi.edu (Bob Philhower)
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Subject: ANI blocking defeats purpose
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It is naive to think that an ANI system with a blocking feature
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(i.e. you prepend the number you dial with something like *21 to prevent
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your own phone number from being available to the party you call) would
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have any effects on those who abuse the anonymity of the current system.
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Anyone that concerned about his/her privacy would purchase a device to
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sit on the phone line and recognize the first dialed number, delay it, and
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send *21 before it. (If these don't appear immediately, I would certainly
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market them myself.)
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Date: Fri, 9 Sep 88 11:00:46 EDT
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From: Dave Robbins <dcr0%uranus@gte.com>
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Subject: ANI/911 Misconceptions
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It may be worthwhile to clear up some small misconceptions that have been
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appearing in the Automatic Number ID discussion. More than one correspondent
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has equated the 911 automatic identification with the calling-number
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identification just now becoming available to local subscribers. In fact, the
|
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two are entirely different features -- implemented differently and having
|
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nothing little more than their general behavior in common. In particular:
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1) "Enhanced 911" (as it is properly called -- regular 911 is nothing
|
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more than an easy-to-remember and quick-to-dial number; it does not
|
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identify the caller) is implemented by essentially the same
|
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mechanism as ANI for toll calls. In both cases, the calling number
|
|
is sent out over a trunk line, not over a local subscriber loop. As
|
|
far as I know, this type of calling number identification has never
|
|
been made available to businesses, as one correspondent suggested it might.
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2) Calling-number-identification (there is a marketing name for this, but
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I forget it offhand) is a feature available only from the newest
|
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ESS and competing switches, and requires special equipment on the
|
|
subscriber's premises as well as special hardware and software on the
|
|
switch (and of course more money from the subscriber :-). As far as I
|
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know, each subscriber has the option of specifying -- permanently --
|
|
whether or not his number will be disclosed to others via this feature;
|
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the default value for this option would reflect the subscriber's current
|
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selection of a published or non-published number. In addition, as
|
|
mentioned by some correspondents, on a given call a subscriber may
|
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choose -- via a dialed prefix -- whether or not to allow the display
|
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of his number on the called phone.
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Caveat: although I do work for a "phone company" my knowledge of the
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above is not necessarily 100% accurate or up-to-date, since I have not
|
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been directly involved with the gory details of these particular
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technologies.
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RISKS relevance? My concern is twofold:
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1) Confusion between two apparently similar but in fact considerably
|
|
different systems can result in the risks of the one being *assumed*
|
|
to be identical to the risks of the other, when in fact this is not
|
|
the case. In the example at hand, there is no assumption of a right
|
|
of privacy when calling 911, but there is an assumption of such a right
|
|
when calling everyone else. These assumptions are made by the respective
|
|
systems, reflecting what is presumed to be the same assumptions made
|
|
by the general public. Viewing one system as though it were the other
|
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changes the perceived risks.
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2) Much of the discussion in RISKS on this topic (and others, of course)
|
|
is based upon incomplete information and therefore incorrect
|
|
assumptions about the technology involved. This is, I realize, a
|
|
general problem, and perhaps unavoidable. However, when discussing
|
|
the risks of technology, computer or otherwise, we need to take
|
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particular care to base the discussion upon the facts, so that we can
|
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discuss the risks of the system as it actually is implemented.
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|
Dave Robbins, GTE Laboratories Incorporated, 40 Sylvan Rd., Waltham, MA 02254
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Date: Sat, 10 Sep 88 00:25:03 EDT
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From: attcan!utzoo!henry@uunet.UU.NET
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Subject: Re: Display of telephone numbers on receiving party's phone
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People are missing an important issue here: there is no one-to-one
|
|
correlation between the number you are calling from and your identity.
|
|
In particular, it is quite possible to have situations in which a call
|
|
is not anonymous -- in the sense that the caller has no intent to hide
|
|
his identity -- but does not want his location known. This is also the
|
|
underlying problem behind having phone solicitors calling from uncallable
|
|
numbers: what you want is identity and contact information, not just the
|
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number used to make the call.
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Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology
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