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001=Usr:0 Null User 06/30/87 20:34 Msg:0 Call:0 Lines:19
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1$If you are in need of help, you need but ask...
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2$************************* 06 DEC 91 **************************************
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3$Welcome to BWMS II (BackWater Message System II) Mike Day System operator
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4$**************************************************************************
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5$GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS II IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
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6$ PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
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7$BWMS II was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS II is a privately
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8$owned and operated system which is currently open for use by the general
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9$public. No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the
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10$system is privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all
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11$messages which I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the
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12$system, it will be periodically purged of messages (only 999 lines of data
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13$can be saved). To leave a message, type 'ENTER'. Use ctrl/C to get out
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14$the ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering
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15$the message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to
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16$replace the line. To exit from the system, type 'BYE' then hang up.
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17$Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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18$**************************************************************************
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002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 12/06/91 21:09 Msg:6862 Call:38779 Lines:3
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20 Life is short, the art long, opportunity fleeting,
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21 experience treacherous, judgement difficult. -Hippocrates
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22 *************************************************************
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003=Usr:13 voyeur 12/06/91 23:40 Msg:6863 Call:38782 Lines:100
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23 :::::::::O O::::::::00:05:33::::::::::::::::::::12/07/91:::::O O:::::::::::::
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24 L'homme - here's the article you mentioned...
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25
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26 Love, Willamette Week Style
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27 by Karyn S. Hunting
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28
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29 Allow me to begin by striking a familiar chord with readers of
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30 the Willamette Week personals: "SYNCRONICITY, ANYONE?" Flip anyone's
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31 switch? It's really me, and no, my name's NOT Susan, is it? Well,
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32 enough with the rhetorical for now, and on to some answers...
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33 Lest some balk at the unfamiliar by-line, I truly am an M, (candy
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34 shell and all). A reinstated M, that is. You see, I deactivated myself
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35 (the red button on the left) circa 1986. And then, thanks to a personal
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36 (sorry) re-realization of the validity of Jung's essays on "the S word,"
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37 via an impulsive ad in the much touted and widely perused Willamette
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38 Week magazine, I reinstated myself circa not too long ago. Make sense
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39 yet? Okay, I give. It went something like this:
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40 Boyfriend (whose favorite phrase was, "You Menses people are too
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41 weird for me...") for a year and a half. Frustration for 17.5 months of
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42 that. Perseverance until March last, when I met one of those tall, dark,
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43 gorgeous Chippendale types (TDGCT's) and flung caution, security, and
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44 fidelity (okay, sort of) to the wind. Peace and quiet until I called an
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45 old "companion" (another TDGCT-my classic prerequisite to
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46 anything-anyone-worth doing). Contentment until I realized why it never
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47 worked in the first place (yes, Virginia, there really IS a left side to
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48 that bell curve - that's why they named it that way)...
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49 We're up to July 1991 now.
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50 Well, jeez, I figured. I met Mr. Un-M when he placed an ad in WW.
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51 Do smart men read this kind of smut, too? Aha, thought I. I have a
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52 theorem, a hypothesis, and an urgent mental/hormonal need to meet a guy
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53 that can do more than grunt and look "stupid but cute" when he's not
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54 lying down. So, being a modern day Nike fan with a cause, I just did it.
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55 Five days and $112.70 later, my impulse stared back at me as I gingerly
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56 opened my new WW issue.
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57 (Since Michael says to keep it to about 5K, the text isn't here,
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58 but for a modest fee...) I asked, more so in my "voice mail ad" than
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59 the written one, for a definite TDGCT. With an IQ in the three digits.
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60 Being the generous, though perhaps picky, soul that I am, I offered
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61 Bonus Points for any/all of the following: over 6', dark hair, tan,
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62 hairy chest, and "to-die-for looks." Silly me.
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63 After the contestants started rolling in, I anxiously typed away
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64 each night, entering their qualifications and amusing statements into my
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65 database. (Yes, database.) I called about five of them the first two
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66 weeks. Met a few. TDGCT's, yes, surprisingly. Synchronicity (my ad
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67 title, mind you), not really. Bonus points, all but one. (He was
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68 blonde. Two blondes together... well... couldn't bring myself to try
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69 it.) I continued on, leaving the database project in the dust after
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70 about 150. Got over 350 altogether to date. Or, rather, not to date.
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71 (But that is not the question, is it?)
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72 "So," Michael asks one day, "what kind of responses did you get?"
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73 (I still hadn't gone back to a TGIF yet.) Final demographic run-down
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74 was kinda like this, for those of you who are into the means and can
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75 wait for the ends: Winners for most common comment were, "I'm not
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76 intimidated" (made ME wonder a bit), and "I want the Bonus Points" (the
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77 gimmick worked). Most common professions (in order): physicist/
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78 scientist, computer pro, business owner/president, attorney, professor,
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79 and "unspecified." Age? I asked for 30.2-43.5. Most were 38 to 45 (I
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80 didn't specify mathematical aptitude). Most were longwinded - couldn't
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81 get it all in within 2 minutes (please, no pun assumptions - I wouldn't
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82 know). Overall? Pretty impressive as a group, I must say: articulate,
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83 educated, humorous, intelligent (ooooooh, gimme more!), and seemingly
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84 "nice guys."
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85 Oh, almost forgot. Their reaction to (it was in my ad to attract
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86 "the right stuff") MENSA? (1) Are you SURE you're cute, too? (2)
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87 Finally! (3) I'm impressed/intrigued/ fascinated. (4) What's MENSA? (5)
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88 Are you really one of THEM? (6) That's nothing but a mutual admiration
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89 society for social illiterates (these were the M-hopefuls who flunked
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90 the test) .
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91 Best of all, though, was MY reaction to their reactions. I meekly
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92 came crawling back to TGIF one Friday, after five years away. After
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93 about ten minutes of sheer trepidation, I entered the hallowed meeting
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94 room, and said to myself, "Oh, you're really BRILLIANT, aren't you?
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95 What do you think you're going to find HERE? You didn't like it BEFORE
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96 when you... Wait! WOW!!! It's SYNCHRONICITY! With a capital frigin' S!
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97 Where has this guy BEEN all my life?" (Ever see an agnostic sport an "I
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98 found it! " bumper sticker?)
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99 And therein began my latest journey into the world of timespace.
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100 He's just over the 43.5 limit (so, what has math ever done for ME?) ,
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101 he's not over 6', not tan, and is not one of those hairy types (ar-ar).
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102 And he's BLONDE. So, did he read my ad? Yes, and he said he wouldn't
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103 have responded anyway "because you wouldn't have responded back if I
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104 did." Now, THERE's a smart guy for you.
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105 Yes, but what about the other 349 men, you ask? I'm afraid I'm just
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106 too busy being ecstatically synchronous with my re-definition of TDGCT.
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107 Do I regret spending $112.70 to end up with someone I DIDN'T meet
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108 through my WW ad? Not at all. In fact, the only regret I have these days
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109 is that Jung couldn't be here to take notes.
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110
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111 --------------------- the ad ----------------------------------
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112 SYNCHRONICITY, ANYONE?
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114 Yes. Virginia. brains and beauty CAN coexist!! Fascinating, attractive
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115 MENSA lady (28, 5'6", blonde /blue, tan). dynamic, multi-faceted. fun,
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116 quick-witted, Professional. positive, affectionate, classy, sexy (by
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117 majority vote), logical, longwinded, with good teeth. seeks same
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118 qualities in attractive S/DWM. 30.2-43.5, to share conversation.
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119 numerous interests, dining, dancing, movies, beach. travel, borderline
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120 insanity, and timespace possibilities. bonus points for photo.
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122 :::::::::O O::::::::::::::::::::voyeur::::::::::::::::::::::O O:::::::::::::::
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004=Usr:659 David Turner 12/07/91 14:32 Msg:6864 Call:38790 Lines:2
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124 en
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005=Usr:660 Rick Young 12/07/91 19:43 Msg:6865 Call:38805 Lines:16
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125 >})/ RORSCHACH \({[<
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128 12-7-91
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129
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130 Been realizing how meaningless this life has been. No goals, no purpose, no
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131 plan. "It takes a certain insight.." _That_ is what I need. Where am I
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132 trying to go, how do I get there, and _why_?
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133
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134 I have started many paths, yet abandon them for others. Joke about brother
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135 never finishing things. Am I any different?
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137 Soon I must find my way, or I shall lose it. I need insight. But where/
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138 how/why/when?
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139
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140 ]})/ RORSCHACH \({[<
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006=Usr:657 Shrew kate 12/07/91 22:29 Msg:6866 Call:38807 Lines:13
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142 So Karyn (or voyeur) what's this $117.40 charge ... the Discount price
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143 on a pair of Nikes? <grin>
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144
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145 And a further note re: The Great White Father Faust: The only two financial
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146 planners (or maybe three) have beeamong the slimest people I've ever met.
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147 The first bilked my aged neighbor lady who sold us the first house around
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148 , the second lived right down the street from the esteemed Babsons and
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149 used to share a office downtown with race-horse breeders o he was always
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150 discussing betting with (another Manpower j and one which I simply
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151 walked out of) and the t a totally questionable neighbor whose told
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152 us some of the most outrageous lies ...
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007=Usr:657 Shrew kate 12/08/91 11:06 Msg:6867 Call:38814 Lines:5
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155 *****************************************
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156 As a matter of fact, I think the gold geezer dropped me off at the Safeway
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157 parking lot there on Barbur ... where I could catch more buses that just
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158 the Tigard one.
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008=Usr:660 Rick Young 12/08/91 20:29 Msg:6868 Call:38829 Lines:18
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160 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
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162 12-8-91
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163
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164 No messages on the phone today. Nothing in the paper. I sat at the restaraunt
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165 and let the city open it's heart to me. I sat and smelled the decay. It is
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166 not good. This city needs help.
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167
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168 There is nothing here I can do but watch the city drown in a flood of decadence
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169 and degradation. Eating away at it's soul as I am eating away this sandwich. I
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170 know something must be done. But I dont have the menu for action.
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171
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172 Something, some event will occur. Something will bring me knowledge. I must
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173 wait, but can the city?
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174
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175 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
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009=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur 12/09/91 02:48 Msg:6869 Call:38833 Lines:50
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177 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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179 {ThingFish} --
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180 Excellent imagination...you should really try to write some
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181 short story (edit it), then publish the damn thing...
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182 "Lost Train to Jamaica" was keenly polished!!!
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183
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184 {Rorschach} --
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185 Hey, I'm on your EXACT frequency in life...
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186 Yes. There is a lot to do in this shifted world:
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187 BUT, the question is "WHAT?"
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188 I feel the same way you do about all this stuff,
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189 and I have asked my self many questions in the past...
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190 but have only found confusion and disappointment.
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191 For example: my mortality, purpose, career, significant
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192 other, children, rules...it all has one thing in common.
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193 My FU*KING identity that I will have for the rest of
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194 this life (and possibly, other lifes to come).
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195 I think it's a constant struggle to remain sane!!!
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196 One thing that helps me understand REALITY is that
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197 we have some-billion other people in this world trying
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198 to do the same damn thing at our age.
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199 Another thing is perspective:
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200 a lot of people in the world DO NOT have the same
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201 freedom we do...to better ourselves, and help others
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202 better themselves (or, get through the tougher times
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203 of REALITY).
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204 So, at this time in my life (though I'm uncertain about
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205 practically EVERYTHING), I'm giving my best shot at
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206 making honestly wise decisions concerning my next goal,
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207 or move...because, the ONE thing I do know is that I can
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208 continue to party and put-off certain things that will
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209 help me later in life.
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210 Sure, you can be hit by a car, tomorrow (and THAT would
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211 SUCK), but the KEY-thing IS perspective.
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212 Give it ALL a chance...and persevere...'cause it can
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213 only end with "good" if you follow your own voice/heart.
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214 That's where I am actually at so far, and it feels real
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215 natural...LIKE I REALLY DO HAVE A GOAL/PURPOSE IN LIFE,
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216 AND I'M ATTEMPTING TO ACHIEVE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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217 Later,
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219
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220 ...........................................Doctor Duran Duran
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221 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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222 ..
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223 ..
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224 ...
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226 ........................................................................
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010=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/09/91 08:51 Msg:6870 Call:38836 Lines:73
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227 VMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVMVM
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228
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229 Take my neighbor Ma Gilliam for instance. To avoid running into the rather
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230 typical situation (in THIS neighborhood anyway) or possibly not having
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231 enough money fo property taxes some year and losing it all to some "friend"
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232 of the neighborhood tax collector for the mere taxes, she went through
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233 a Multnomah County program where you're exempt from taxes until you die
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234 and then it's taken out of your estate. Wel, lo and beehold, what hap-
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235 pens??? She gets slapped into a horribly noisy, degrading and EXPENSIVE
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236 nursing home hortly thereafter and they STILL "sell" her property **AND**
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237 belongings right out from under her.
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238
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239 Needless to say, I was QUITE upset. In fact, I think the "estate" lady,
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240 DELORES MARTINDALE (<-- she'still in the same b, who
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241 was sent to descecrate te shring, got a restraining order aganst me ...
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242 after I'd called about everybody in town for help wch was, of course,
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243 the same brick wall it still is. But then one of her "assistants"
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244 "Worked" for the police department, he vivulged lter, when he also con-
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245 fessed he might tend to consider the whole operation rather corrupt,
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246 along with some of Delores' OTHER sidelines. And although most neighbors
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247 ":turned theire other cheeck" at the time, some DID later concede the
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248 whole things was unbelievably outrageious ESPECIALLY, I think, after
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249 three of Ma's four lots "went" to a corrupt "favorite son" developer who,
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250 if I have the "facts" straight, was largely "responsible" for that first
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251 S&L failure in town and whose name, coincidentally, sounds too frighten-
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252 iongly like DOMINION.
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253
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254 Then as it ended up, the people in THOSE "project" houses were later
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255 totally outraged to find they'd bought some fine print contracts declar-
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256 ing they had no choice but to paya thru the nose for a road they didn't
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257 want so another "favorite son" developer and his two-attorney neighbor-
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258 hood deedholders could put THEIR chintzy Project in ... but THAT's a
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259 whole 'nother Book.
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260
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261 About Ma, let's just sa she was quite a character. She came from a wealthy
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262 "horse" family in Salem (which was burned out by the IWW, she once said),
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263 CLAIMED she got her RN from Columbia in New York, had TWO shackfuls of
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264 priceless antiques left over from her (and his) "previous" lives, and
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265 she absolutely LOVED to tell me stories ... which I LOED to hear. And
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266 she knew EVERTHING that was ging down (and HAD) in the neighborhoodl,
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267 like alot of the other old ladies around here --- even what flocks of
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268 birds were passing through. She and her husband (I never met him) used
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269 to manage some kind of fishing lodge or something she always referred to
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270 as Three Creeks, and when she and I would go places someone ALWAYS
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271 recgnized her from having been there. Even the guy who used to give me
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272 a ride to work knew of her or theplace, whichever, which I thought was a
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273 real coincidence.
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274
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275 Delores, on the other hand, was the wife of a bank VP and probably 60-
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276 something ... a bleached blonde with skin-tight designer jeans and back-
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277 less spiked heels, all of which seemed so silly when she had to wade
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278 thru Ma's knee-high hay to get to the house in order to sort thru Ma's
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279 most prized possessions (including her letters and photos, which were
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280 merely thrown into a dumpster) ... then out to supervise her rather
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281 extensive trucking crews in their removal of all the "garbage" that was
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282 stuffed to the gills in her even-larger U-shaped outshack(s). And
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283 Delores always brought along her rather bizarre 20-something yo daughter
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284 too, who was always outfitted really retro (WITH white gloves, no les,
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285 which she'd wear the whole day) who'd simply sit by Ma's stove and
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286 crystal lamp all day and play with her "simple Simon" toy <- I kid you
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287 not. I think the chick even talked babytalk.
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288
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289 But to top it all off, "friends of the Bank/Mult. Co./Delores/Whomever"
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290 antique dealers statewide then had first shot at what was left of the
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291 loot Delores hadn't hauled off. There were hordes of 'em that spent
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292 the night in their cars all up and down our street so's to get frist
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293 grabs on what was left. Ma's place was lit like a Christmas tree all
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294 night long I suppose so nobody would do anything "stupid," so I bet
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295 neither Delores didn't sleep all night long either.
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296
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297 I don't know how soon after They all did That to her it was that Ma
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298 died.
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299
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300 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
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301 12-9-91
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302 Long day. Felt the rain on my skin and the breeze through my soul. Walked
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303 home past trashcans stuffed with rumors, weighing factors, bodies motives.
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304 Waiting for a flash of enlightenment in all this blood and thunder.
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305
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306 Various deposits. Candy wrappers, a pair of Keds strangled by own laces,
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307 tongues lolling out horribly.
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308
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309 This city is an animal, fierce and complicated. To understand it, I read it's
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310 droppings, it's scents, the movement of it's parasites.
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313 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
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012=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/09/91 22:44 Msg:6873 Call:38857 Lines:59
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314 ------------------------------ Justin the Blue ----------------------------
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315
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316 The City of Portland miring in decay and decadence? I think the owner
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317 of that opine doth complain too much. I've been in places that are
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318 currently Hell on Earth compared to dear old pdx, and I'd take pdx over
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319 SeaTac, SanSan, ChiPitts...BosWash, that one goes without saying.
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320
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321 But maybe tossing about the names of the megalopoli are are little too
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322 arrogant. OK. Given. I've seen many places, but let me clue you on a
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323 little thing about little towns close by. To be grindingly exact, Corvallis.
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324
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325 Corvallis is a wonderful little place. Healthy. Calm, despite the Geeks
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326 who go to OhEssYou. They even have free (but for how long is anybody's
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327 guess) unix Internet sites (don't write 'em and ask; I was a system
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328 administrator down there and they're letting locals only on these days).
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329
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330 You could live quite well in Corvallis. But there is no decent place
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331 to have coffee in the wee-hours, for one thing. The only 24-hour place
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332 is the Lyon's, and it just isn't Q.P., if you get my drift.
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333
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334 But then again, what is? But I hope you get my point.
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335
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336 For a city it's little size, it's darn sophisticated. Best coffee in that
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337 section of the world. But it just isn't the place a confirmed urban can
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338 really enjoy life in unless you already have the bux. The nourishment
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339 of the soul just isn't there.
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340
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341 Other places might be peaceful and nice. But then, so's certain forms
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342 of medication.
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343
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344 pdx, for all the drawbacks, is a lot nicer than you think. If you think
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345 that pdx is Hell In a Handbasket (tm), then take a break in the hinterlands
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346 for a while. If pdx has nourished your soul as mine, then you'll be back.
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347
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348 I left for Corvallis four years ago, and I thought I'd never be back.
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349
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350
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351 Well, it's either that, or I'm doomed.
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352
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353
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354 ------------------------------Special message to:------------------------------
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355 Those who are friendly and especially those who look like Cheryl York, and
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356 any others who need to remind me that we are friends, my user number
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357 is 658. Email me.
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358 -------------------------------Justin the Blue---------------------------------
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359 -----------------------------Justin the Blue, addendum-------------------------
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360 Friar and A.A.Dreamer: Thanks for the welcome. Especial to Friar; my lady
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361 Brenda (you may or not remember her), who is now my wife, was delighted
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362 to hear that you are still extant...as I am, and happy that BW and agora
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363 and such places still exist.
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364
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365 It's nice to know that we are remembered and welcomed by nice folx. I
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366 anticipate with ardor the new discussions that will arise, and the sagacity
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367 thereon.
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368
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369 Bonhomie,
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370 ------------------------------Justin-------------------------------------------
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371 ----------------------------(remember the border wars--------------------------
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372 -------------------------------of '88?)----------------------------------------
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013=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur 12/10/91 04:35 Msg:6874 Call:38860 Lines:2
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373 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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375 &*&*&*&*'s
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376 Justin, I first logged in on July 6th of 1988. I believe I missed your era
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377 by a fairly short margin. I've been hanging around here ever since. I agree
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378 with what you say about Portland. It ain't perfect, but it has a lot going for
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379 it.
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380
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381 I spent all of my pre college days in towns of 50000 or less, with 11000 being
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382 the size of The Dalles, where I graduated from HS. It only took me a month
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383 or two to figure out that Portland was nirvana in comparison. Powells, record
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384 stores, shopping malls, libraries, BBS's, education etc. I don't think
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385 I could settle for anything less. So, when people around here go on balistic
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386 whines, I start to wonder about their motivations. Do they have the slightest
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387 clue as to how things work elsewhere? It doesn't seem that way.
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388
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389 Portland ain't perfect, but what is? We've got a fairly decent thing going
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390 here. I'm not saying it couldn't be better, I'm not saying its perfect. But
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391 any faults it does have tend to be way short of the typical problems you'll
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392 find in a city of this size. Blame people, not power, not money. If they
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393 want to find the enemy, they only have to look in the mirror.
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394
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395 We are the enemy. As long as we focus in on others exclusivly, whe don't stand
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396 a chance of improving the big picture. Who here hasn't been touched by greed
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397 and coruption? Who here hasn't participated atleast once? Who here has never
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398 lied or cheated? Who here has never treated another unjustly? We are all
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399 responsible to one degree or another.
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400
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401 The world can be a better place. We must start with ourselves, and work our
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402 way outward. It is counterproductive to try to fix the world when we ourselves
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403 are broken. Without inner piece, there can be no lasting change. Anger is
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404 a negative emotion. Violence at best brings about the illusion of change.
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405 Underneth the surface the old pains and hatreds will still seth.
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406
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407 Yet humanity seems anxious to try these dysfunctional solutions. Will we
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408 ever evolve beyond the stick and muscle diplomacy that still hides barely
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409 beneath the surface of so much that happnes in the modern world?
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410
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411 Or are we destined to be one of natures failures? Not even a footnote
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412 in the history of the universe? I just don't know. But with each passing
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413 year, I move closer to the conclusion that we will in fact fail. If I am
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414 around when it happens, I will feel no joy, being right about such an
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415 ending would be at best a no win situation.
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416
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417 But it doesn't have to end that way. There is so much potential in we the
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418 human race. There is beauty and genius in all of us. If we do not shut
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419 them off. If we do not deny them. If we do not take the path that leads
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420 only to self gratification.
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421
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422 An Astral Dreamer
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423 &*&*&*&*'s (And still some argue.)
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424
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015=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/10/91 19:47 Msg:6876 Call:38868 Lines:45
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425 ----------------------------Justin the Blue---------------------------------
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426
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427 Astral
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428 :
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429 Your friendly welcome made me think that maybe I had known you before
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430 when I was a pdx'er. You see, I've made high friends in low places....
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431 they come out of the woodwork from time to time.
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432
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433 Back in '88, just before I left for Corvallis, my then-girlfriend now-wife
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434 Britt helped initiate the oft-misspelled "Boarder" wars. Of course, I can
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435 see you know, in a limited way, the advantage of having a finder-tag-string
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436 in your posts here. I've noticed that the use of full borders has fallen
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437 off here, but back then, that was how you opened and closed your entries
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438 if you wanted to be separated from the great ASCII horde.
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439
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440 The Border Wars of 1988 primarily consisted of "This is my Boarder! No it
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441 isn't I had it first! Yes it is, I was posting here before I was born
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442 and I have blood samples to prove it...."
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443
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444 I was foolish enough to mention that it wasn't a "Boarder", but a "Border"
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445 war that was going on. I was promptly ascii-dogpiled on and learnt my
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446 lesson. Nuff said.
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447
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448
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449 In your reminisicence of why pdx is not as bad as they say and just
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450 aout better than anyplace else, I realized that the concern I had
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451 really didn't go that deep...though our thoughts along the sentimental
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452 line were valid enough. The thing that gets me is that most pdx.whiners
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453 just seem to need something to whine about. They really seem to need
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454 to see somthing wrong...as though what was wrong wasn't bad enough...
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455 it's not good enough that the city's on the banks of the Styx, it's that
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456 it's across the river from Hell...that sort of thing. It's not bad enough
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457 that it can't be worse.
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458
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459 My mother in law's that way. She has a house in McMinnville that is
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460 in below average shape, and that's all she knows. Can't blame hre
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461 for it, but it gets to the extreme when she comes to our new neighborhood
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462 and sees all the wonderful architecture in Brooklyn (you know, around
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463 Powell Blvd and Milwaukie Ave) and admires the houses, but can't look
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464 at them beyond how much work there would be in maintaining them.
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465
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466 Each is magnificent. A magnificent job of work.
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467
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468 I'm rambling. I'll go on later.
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469 ----------------------------Justin the Blue-----------------------------
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016=Usr:663 Brittania Klein 12/10/91 20:50 Msg:6877 Call:38870 Lines:10
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470 >>>>>>> Hmmmm, no massive borders. Gonna have to fix that..... <<<<<<<
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472 HEY, EVERYBODY!
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473
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474 Brittania's back, and now she's got a HUSBAND.
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475
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476 <bow> Thank you, thank you...... Ahhh, adoring crowds. :-)
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478@
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479 >>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>>
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480 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O'}+
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481
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482 December 10, 1991
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483
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484 Leaving restaraunt today, police restrained youth on drugs. He was screaming
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485 about president bush. Something about bombs. Is everyone but me going mad?
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486
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487 Overhead, bird circling in flight south. Beyond that, unseen, spy satellites.
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488 If they so much as narrow their glass eyes, we shall all be dead.
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489
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490 This rudder less world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not
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491 god who kills the children. Not fate who butchers them, or destiny that feeds
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492 them to the dogs.
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493
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494@It'
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495@
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496 It's us. Only us.
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497
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498@ /+-{]`#O=+ RRCAH+O'}-+\
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499 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
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018=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/11/91 08:50 Msg:6879 Call:38879 Lines:8
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500 &*&*&*&*'s
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501 I go on those little tirades every once in awhile. Your post just gave me an
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502 op to spew at certain parties that have been making BW a very unfun place to
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503 be recently. We'll just have to post them into submissio. :-)
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504
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505 An Astral Dreamer
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506 &*&*&*&*'s (I want to be a Rock N' Roll star)
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507
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508 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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020=Usr:657 Shrew kate 12/11/91 10:17 Msg:6881 Call:38882 Lines:14
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510@Like the Brown residence, heds stood empty for some time before
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511@ty were "given away." And thinking I was just another of those filthy
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512@t ruined the world (because I didn't appear to work full tim{
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513@
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514@all the time and I gardened alot, I suppose), another of the Gang of swell
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515@neighbors around here tried to proposition me into growing a massive amount
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516@of dope in Ma's shed. The deal was he'd provide all the "stuff" and seal
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517@off the sheds with plastic inside if I'd "just" do the growing. Said he'd
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518@split the profit with me. His purpose, he said, was to get enough money
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519@
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520@dream vineyard he was gonna have some day.
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522@Not that I ever WOULD consider i}t, but I already had the guy's nu
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524 Like the Brown residence, Ma's house/sheds stood empty for some time before
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525 they were given away. And thinking I was just another one of those filthy
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526 hippies that "ruined te world" (because I didn't appear to be working full
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527 time all the time and I gardened a lot, I suppose), another of the Gang of
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528 swell neighbors around here tried to proposition me into growing massive
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529 amounts of dope in Ma's shed. The deal was, he said, he'd provide all the
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530 "stuff" and seal off all the sheds with black plastic inside if *I'D* do
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531 the GROWING. Said he'd SPLIT the profit with me. His purpose, he said,
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532 was to get money for the "dream vineyard" he was gonna have some day.
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533
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534 Not that I ever WOULD consider it, but I already had the guy's number
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535 anyway. See, some years earlier I'd had some Trouble with the Revenew's
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536 kid Ceaselessly taunting my dog so that one fine day, while I was engaged
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537 in a phone conversation, she happened to bolt out of the house after this
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538 kid which, of course, resulted in a messy tangle and the kid ended up with
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539 atiny cut on his l. most probably from his own braces. I wasn't
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540 any too concerned about it until Ma informed me there might ben to
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541 be, lived t 30-40 years previou and KNOWING about
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542 such thing. And sure enough, not only did "the police" show up to
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543 question me about possible chickenpoop "assault" charges (IF you can
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544 imagine???), but they Ceaselessly "patrolled" my house for weeks after-
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545 ward. Evidently Ma had also notice 'cause she told me to call down and
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546 tell the department that a brother of my neighbor down the street was
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547 harassing me ... with city equint an their time. ~'{Ma'd Ma'd told me it was p
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548 [D
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549 ]
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550 probably the guy who lived dowon by Fred Meyer who'd always kept his patrol
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551 car right there in his driveway who was related to this Mr. Day who lived
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552 right down from us (and UP from the Revenewer). So I checked it out and
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553 sure enough ... and nwhen I called 'em down at the department they just
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554 kinda chuckled and said they'd look into it. But the "patrolling" DID stop.
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555
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556 Now I ask myself, with all this fine local police assistance available
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557 right here, HOW could it be that there is STILL so much **REAL** crime in
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558 the neighborhood??? I hope poor Al Brown wasn't picked on all this time
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559 for being the same calibre of criminal I'm apparently considered to be.
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560
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561 Or should I say maybe I hope he was??? It's so confusing.
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562
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563
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564 XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX THE SANGE CASE OF DAN KLEE, HUH???? XOXOXOX
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565
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566 Excellent article. And very typical of the BS at PPS, as WE ALL KNOW.
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567 I think it's interesting also that there is a VIRGINIA MC ELROY down
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568 the School of Education at PSU who is in charge of placing student
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569 teachers at PPS I included this in my extensve report to the Board of
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570 Education, which I have confirmation in writing that Mr. RIeke and Mr.
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571 Kafourey have read. I originally submitted it to Carol Turner, but she
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572 wouldn't neither send me a written reply, as requested, OR return my
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573 phone calls. I sent the report because they refused to grant me the
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574 "executive" meeting they USED to have when "personnel matters" were
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575 involved. I see tEd Schmidt is not heading Personnel. Homany
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576 henchmen positions has he held over the last 10 years anyway. Seems
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577 like he's somewhere new every year or so.
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578
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579 But it's funny, the bizarre problems I had at PPS (other than with Don's
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580 FORMER secretary who was finally Given a department of he own) was with
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581 the wife of the Asst. Dean of Education at PSU ... who DOES hiring of
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582 the adjunct types, I believe. Tightknit bunch, huh?
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583
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584 But isn't it funny too how few teachers felt free to respond when the
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585 guy was obviously totally obnoxious??? (that's not a criticism ...
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586 teachers already have it bad enough already)
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587
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588 XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX Something needs to be done about the Board and the
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589 Board needs to DO SOMETHING about McElroy. This is TOO TYPICAL!!!!!!!
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590
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023=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/11/91 19:09 Msg:6884 Call:38891 Lines:26
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591 ----------------------------Justin the Blue--------------------------------
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592 As long as we are pontificating on REAL problems that need solving,
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593 did anybody read that one in The Oregonian about those impoverished souls
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594 at a SE Division area (I think) apartment complex? They're kicking everyong
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595 there out after just a month after the place changing owners.
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596
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597 It's front page news. The agent for these folx needs a PR lesson, bad.
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598 He said the single mothers and poor people who live there are "just lazy"
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599 and he "didn't believe" that it cost somebody $750-1000 to get into another
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600 apartment. I'd like to backhand him one. This apartment we are in right
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601 now is nothing if not modest...moderate rent, too....over $800 to move in,
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602 counting the pet deposit.
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603
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604 What got me is that the company (a California one, wouldn't you know?)
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605 sent all the tenants a note of greeting and a bottle of Champagne last
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606 month when the complex was bought. These are the kind of people
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607 that give all landlords a very bad name.
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608
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609 Thank God MY life is going alright. So may others are on the ropes....
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610
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611 Been so busy I haven't even stopped to look on the Mall downtown...looked
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612 up and saw Portlandia. Like a shot in the arm. Q.P. times are soon.
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613
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614 ....and, one wonders the general interval between disk cleanups...<ahem>....
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615 --------------------------The above was a whine. Though----------------------
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616 it would be nice if Disk A opened up some...................................
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618 Hmmmmmm.... Well, poor Hosford. I've heard Ron Hanlon ipretty much of
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619
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025=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/11/91 20:53 Msg:6886 Call:38894 Lines:16
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620 &*&*&*&*'s
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621 I moved a couple of months back. Total cost, $975 for the first month I only
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622 had to come up with $775 right of the bat though. Talk about painfull. It'll
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623 be the end of febuary before I really recover. And this was for a decent sized
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624 one bedroom apartment in an older building downtown. Of th $575 move in cost,
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625 $400 is refundable when I move out.
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626
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627 And this is one of the cheaper places to live in the DT area. They keep
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628 buildin these upscale apartment buildings. The city give the developers a
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629 10 year break on property takes. One bedroom apartments cost about $750
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630 a month in most of these places. What a deal eh? And we all pay that little
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631 extra to make up for the loss, while the tenants pay thru the nose as well.
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632
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633 An Astral Dreamer
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634 &*&*&*&*'s (Oh no, its catching. But atleast its interactive now.)
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635
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636 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}+
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637
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638 12-11-91
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639
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640 The morning roads are choked with attitudes like blood cells in a vein; to go
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641 anywhere you push your way in and go with the flow.
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642
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643 If a cell should crash, others clot as they go by, congesting the vein.
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644 Mindless drones.
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645
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646 One day, perhaps enough cells will crash and the blood will overflow the
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647 sewers. When the sewers finally scab over, we will all drown.
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648
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649 Have to rise above that if we want to keep our noses clean.
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650
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651 +{`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
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027=Usr:663 Brittania Klein 12/12/91 00:29 Msg:6888 Call:38897 Lines:10
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652 >>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>>
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654 I just caught my cats trying to boff each other.
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655
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656 Both are male.
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657 Both are fixed.
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658
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659 Makes you wonder, don't it?
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660
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661 >>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>> Britt <<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>>
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668
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669 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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670
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671 What the @#$(*&^!! Every time it seems really important I seem to get
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672 such horrible line noise I can't make my postings <grin> and I can
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673 never figure out where the trouble lies. I just completely turned off
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674 my MAChine (actually it's an IBM clone ... I don't have a printer for
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675 the Mac) and now I can re-enter, so it MUST be the machine, huh???
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676 So, I wonder of NOW IS THE TIME to see if I can't get some help for MY
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677 case against PPS. I really SHOULD complete my Pat North entry ... oh
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678 well.
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679
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680 I sure hope my modem problems aren't my phone jacks, though, because it
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681 costs two arms and a leg to have them even diagnose a problem?? Isn't
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682 there still a monopoly on phone line repairs, though?
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683
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684
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685 ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() Deja Vu or WHAT???
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686
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687 Geesh! I walked down to Dirty Fred's this morning (outta coffin nails)
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688 and stopped off at Burger King for one of their TINY breakfast sandwiches
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689 (I think they're 1-1/2" across) and this guy walks in and says the entire
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690 Tigard police department is right up in the next parking lot ... said he'd
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691 heard some guys arguing up t but that was all. So after about 20 min-
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692 utes I left and strolled on by and sure enough there WERE 4-5 police cars
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693 up there settling the dispute.I guess I was over-paranoid about having
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694 4-5 cars show up at the very same spot when all we'd evidently done was
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695 gone through a red light at a very confusing spot (in a very old car ...
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696 THAT's probably what they didn't like).
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698 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
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700 12-12-91
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701
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702 Pompous piping parakeets bickered it out at work today. Listening to them
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703 screech at each other over who is doing the most annoying things. Are earplugs
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704 inexpensive?
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705
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706 All this useless arguing when there's so much to be done. So what if they dont
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707 kow that by driving down the street they can change the future of mankind by
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708 simply running over a small child or not.
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709
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710 They dont stop to realize the importance of events that do and do not happen.
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711 Perhaps their removal from existance would enlighten them. For all their
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712 volume they are but ostriches, who dont know the difference between themselves
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713 and a human.
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715 The universe is an ostrich. You can as easily be as dead or alive as you ar
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716 now. The universe doesn't know the difference.
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718 +{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
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032=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/12/91 20:00 Msg:6893 Call:38910 Lines:35
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719 -----------------------------Justin the Blue-------------------------------
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720 Catching up on current pdx events, I saw the story someone mentioned here
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721 about Dan Klee in Willy Week. God, what an unmitigated slime. And he
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722 got away with it, too!
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723 One of the reasons I want to make a lot of money is so I can send
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724 my kids (if we have them, if in pdx) to private schools. PPS are poor
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725 excuses for learning. My little sister started in them, and was doing
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726 badly 'till she moved to Stayton. Stayton has many drawbacks, but one
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727 of them is NOT having schools that don't give a darn.
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728
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729 More on the Landlords from Hell: the agent for RSVP Management (a
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730 Burlingame, CA, business), one David Maxwell, recived a lot of hate
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731 'phone calls that morning. He said he'd help by getting in touch
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732 with social service agencies. In the meantime, wonderful folx from around
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733 the pdx have offered help in the form of money or help finding places to
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734 live. Bless them.
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735
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736 The thing that made me angry about this so=called gent? In evaluating
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737 the tenant's situation, he mentioned that they should "get off thier lazy
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738 butts"; and The Oregonian related that he "didn't believe" that it cost
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739 $800-$1000 to get into A Place Of Your Own.
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740
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741 What a royal ass. I hope his little slips of the lip cost him his job
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742 and his rent. Be about right, I figure....
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743
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744 On the #19-Woodstock, crossing the Ross Is. Bridge, I saw a single
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745 Christmas boat alight on the Willy, under the Marquam Bridge. An
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746 early starter, no doubt (it was only about 6:00pm, and the Fleet
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747 generally doesn't sail 'till around 7:00).
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748
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749 Remember: pray for the little guy. You never know when you might
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750 become him.
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751 -------------------------Justin the Blue----------------------------------
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752 Hey, if SysOp don't clear off the A drive, let's start posting in the
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753 Mall.
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033=Usr:92 Katherine Dohert 12/12/91 21:30 Msg:6895 Call:38912 Lines:26
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754 **************************************************************************
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755 Note-I'm "stealing Mikey's border " - h aha ha ha
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756 Unless things have changed here recently, doesn't each drive goto 999 lines?
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757 What is this noice (whoops) noise I hear on line 752? get a life!
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758 All is quiet here, getting a little stressed about how far behind I am in
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759 getting the Christmas cards out and getting shopping done (with ? money?).
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760 I'm starting to miss Ms Nomer, she's been gone for about what 7 months now?
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761 Haven't heard a word, I hope she's happy in England. I hope she comes back
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762 home sometime. The last time I saw her was in my driveway, she was driving
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763 her little white rabbit and had her boyfriend with her. That's when she
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764 gave us the news. I was stunned, I don't do well when I'm stunned. And then
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765 she was done/gone. Oh well, Merry Christmas Kristy. Have started going to
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766 a health club to try and beat the holiday excesses before they start. It's
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767 an atempt anyway. I don't have anything exciting to write a story about,
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768 now that is sad. I could make a comment about the Kennedy trial, ok let's
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769 do that. I'm glad that he got off. I'm also sad for the "girl", but
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770 hey, now she can make a mint off the mini series. Only in America. Ok,
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771 on to world politics. I read in the Oregonian (what a joke) today while
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772 riding the lifecycle that "US offica\ials believe power is shifting to
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773 Yetsin" NO KIDDING?/! I can't believe some of the trash in the paper.
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774 Ok, so the USSR is no more, now we can look forward to all kinds of civil
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775 war s in these new nations. I can't even bear (sp) to think of what kind
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776 of money this will cost us when we rush into each dispute to "save democracy"..
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777 Bah. Well, that's enough mindless typing. I think I'll sit down and write
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778 a real story.
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779 ******happyholiday'severyone**************kathyD****************************
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034=Usr:657 Shrew kate 12/13/91 05:46 Msg:6896 Call:38919 Lines:20
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780 Although I've never MET Ron Hanlon, I remember being shocked by
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781 the rantings of a fellow secretary about how unbelievably cruel he'd been
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782 to here ane had a horrible shock. I was shocked
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783 ed quiteith his wife ...who is, evidently, a long-term good friend of Eleanor
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784 Hardt, whose husband probably hired Dan Klee.
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785
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786 Also interesting is that the current Union rep refused to work for Eleanor
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787 although she only had about three other people she worked with when the
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788 only other secretary in the department had about 10 people she worked for.
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789 Eleanor had her desk in Avis' room, but Helen had d
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790 hall (rea?) Avis always
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791
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792 for other people outside the building ... people I'd never met. Helen
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793 had catar and had trouble sg and would have to have her husband
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794 come in weekends to help her finish unbelievable overload. It was
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795 a nightmare, but I was told all offices were that way (like I fell off a
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796 vegetable truck just that week) ...
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797
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798 A second secrry ref Eleanor too.
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799
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035=Usr:657 Shrew kate 12/13/91 06:05 Msg:6897 Call:38920 Lines:2
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800 Which, as TAG will remember, is exacth Bevanged thin.
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801
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036=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/13/91 08:10 Msg:6898 Call:38922 Lines:12
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802
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803 @_)#($&^#)!(#@_)!@(#_^^%$#!^@#)(!*#_)!*#_!*@#)&%@&~$!@~~*@_~@~^@#
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804
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805 In the interests of being impartial, I think the KATU newsteam's (and
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806 more importantly Northwest Natural Gas') Earth Agenda should report on
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807 the swindles perpetrated on unsuspecting landowners in order for "favorite
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808 son" developers to built on the millions of acres of wetlands that have
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809 already been ruined ... so we wouldn't have to pay some other "favorite"
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810 son to p to erect a phoney likeness of the same.
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811
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812 Why doesn't somebody do a huge study on Citadel Estates, for instance???
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813
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037=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/13/91 08:22 Msg:6899 Call:38923 Lines:6
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814
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815 And why doesn't KATU do one on the new freeways
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816 going in to service Bull Mt. so that Bob Ames/Dale Johnson (formerly
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817 of NWNG CO. but now with Esco I believe -- y need cheap
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818 steal) can develop their vast holdings for even better returns???
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819
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820
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821
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822 Does anybody wanna bet their farm
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823
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824 Does
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039=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/13/91 18:54 Msg:6903 Call:38933 Lines:48
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825 --------------------------Justin the Blue--------------------------------
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826 Freeways on Bull Mountain? Could the scribe who mentioned that be a
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827 tad more exact? Freeways are certain things, and only certain roads with
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828 certain features can be considered freeways.
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829 Unless, of course, you are very angry.
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830 The person who wrote the development complaint was interesting...but
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831 incoherent. No, semicoherent. The person writing about something being
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832 "exacth Bevanged thin", as "TAG will surely know"? There seemed to be
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833 some parity problem here. It seemed interesting...I sure would like to know
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834 exactly what it was about.
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835
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836 Why doesn't KATU investigate? Well, how about KGW or KOIN...or even
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837 KPTV (Lars Larson would do an awesome job)? The complaint was a a little
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838 confusing.
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839
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840 One of the ways that news such as this gets to ANY news organization
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841 is for citizens just like you and me to call them or write. And don't
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842 stop at television...go to radio and the newspapers. I bet someone
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843 like Phil Stanford or Steve Duin at the Big O would give it a listen at
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844 least. Or, if they don't get to it, try radio...surely somebody at
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845 KBOO would like to get thier teeth into it.
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846
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847 Don't be disappointed if the "big" broadcasting folx don't slaver at
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848 the bit, though. The only source of revenue for TV, (most) radio, and
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849 newspapers is advertising. Advertisers have to be pleased with them.
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850 Also there are the folx who view TV and the paper as nothing more than
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851 entertainment...they don't want to be challenged, and won't be pleased if
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852 thier TV is taken up with a lot of serious news.
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853
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854 Media has to please everyone. They don't. Any wonder?
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855
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856 And if the media prove fruitless in getting the word out, do it yourself.
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857 Just because there's no money behind you...did someone take away your
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858 mouth? Posting here was the first step. Get on your typewriter and
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859 get to the xerox machine and take it to the streets if you have to.
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860
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861 Don't make the excuse that you're just one voice either. That's copping
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862 out. Greater things have been started on a single voice, going on
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863 until nobody could ignore it anymore.
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864
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865 Rambling about social responsiblility, now. Hmm. I guess it comes down
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866 to this; if it's important, it's important enough to yell about. Don't
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867 blame the media. If something isn't out there and it needs to be seen,
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868 then get it out there where it CAN be seen. Don't wait 'round for someone
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869 else to do the dirty work.
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870
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871 If nobody else will, it's your turn.
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872 --------------------------Justin the Blue---------------------------------=
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040=Usr:660 Rick Young 12/13/91 22:22 Msg:6904 Call:38939 Lines:16
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873 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
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874
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875 12-13-91
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876
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877 Watched street kids lighting matches and heating pennies to throw at homeless
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878 people on street. They thought it was funny. Three of them, not older than 14
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879 or 15. Didn't laugh when I kicked over their bicycles. Just ran.
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880
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881 Used broken glass from street to flatten tires. Maybe they'll laugh on the way
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882 home pushin their bikes. Homeless man laughed at the scene as I sliced their
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883 tires.
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884
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885 This city is dying of rabies. Is the best I can do to wipe random flecks of
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886 foam from it's lips?
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887
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888 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
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041=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/14/91 11:50 Msg:6905 Call:38946 Lines:28
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889 -------------------------Justin the Blue---------------------------------
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890
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891 Good boy, Rorschach. The homeless have it bad enough without little
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892 twits like those harassing them. I would have done the same thing if I
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893 were in your situation.
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894
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895 It's not a sign of the city's decay, though. If it were, then the
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896 homeless and people like you saw would only exist in pdx. They are almost
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897 everywhere.
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898
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899 The reason that people are like that is becuase for more than ten years
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900 now we have had leadership that have said grand things while all the while
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901 giving a tacit okay to derision and contempt for the less fortunate. These
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902 days, not having money is a social crime that people are despised for. The
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903 Reagans and the Bush's, and those like them who have driven events having
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904 to do with however much money you and me and others get to lead our lives,
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905 have sold the vast flocks of sheep that elect them on the premise that one
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906 is poor and homeless because They Want To Be. Nobody assumed that the
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907 homeless were homeless by choice until the Reaganites came along.
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908
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909 Actually, it's not so bad here. What you saw was despicable, but it was
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910 near the kinder end of the spectrum. It's worse elsewhere.
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911
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912 Not to excuse the fact that it happens here, of course. It should not happen
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913 anywhere. But we'll have derision of the extremely poor as long as we
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914 have leaders who love the rich and keep themselves in power by turning
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915 fellow citizen on fellow citizen.
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916 ---------------------------=Justin the Blue=------------------------------
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042=Usr:660 Rick Young 12/14/91 20:20 Msg:6906 Call:38952 Lines:21
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917 +{`O+RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
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918
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919 12-14-91
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920
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921 More and more the city starves itself. Money is funded for street repairs,
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922 replacing street signs, painting old buildings. Covering the decay.
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923
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924 But it's still there.
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925
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926 More and more the city hides it's welts and bruises. They are out there. I
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927 have seen the blood in the gutters. I can walk by, and see it still. Even
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928 after it's been washed away. It's still there, just hidden.
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929
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930 The city beautifies itself by covering up it's rotting core. Why cant they see
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931 that the city is a whole. Not just a succession of mayors or the top 20 riches
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932 of the last 10 years. It is a whole from the richest person to the lowliest
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933 beggar.
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934
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935 But the city doesn't care. It is a pile of excretion with fancy dressing.
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936
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937 /+-{`O+RRCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
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938 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
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939
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940 12-15-91
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941
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942 Not much today. Millions of death and births around the world. More than
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943 2000 women have been raped while I typed this sentence. Less than 300 will
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944 report it.
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945
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946 We overlook the miracle of the thermo-dynamic chance that each one of us
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947 suceeded in becoming the life form we are, that we often take it for granted.
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948 We cant expect to forget the miracle of our own lives that we take others
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949 needlessly.
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950
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951@ /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHAH+O'}+
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953@de
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954 /-]#= RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
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044=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/15/91 21:13 Msg:6908 Call:38967 Lines:7
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955 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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956 Wel I finally got the nerve to read the rest disk. I knew I
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957 coul the ual Supporregar But I
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958 know when you're workin networked tyrant such as Walt Hathaway,
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959 you gotta be that way ... which, as WW pointed out, is EXACTLY what
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960 is wrong with the District.
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961
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045=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/15/91 22:15 Msg:6909 Call:38969 Lines:10
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962 Actually, AD, I should be quite angry with you. It's people like YOU that
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963 keep things staying the same. You spout the same BS as the school,
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964 churches, and psychiatric community intended to keep the masses humiliated,
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965 feeling trivialized, and most importantly QUIET. But I think you're
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966 especially irresponsible since you work AT the ad building where alot of
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967 this shit comes down. Not only that you're single and have no kids. You
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968 can AFFORD to stand up and make the difference. YOU SHOULD BE OUTRAGED
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969 ABOUT WHAT GOES ON IN THE DISTRICT. Instead you pontificate the standard
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970 stonewall program. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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971
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046=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/16/91 07:05 Msg:6910 Call:38974 Lines:28
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972 &*&*&*&*'s
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973 You only just read the disk. Thank you oh so much. Let me kiss your feet.
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974 Walt has exactly zero to do with my opinions. Your endless blathering
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975 without bothering to read rebutals however is a major factor. Congrats,
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976 you've gotten me to the point where not only do I not care about what you're
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977 saying, I'm rooting for the other side. Was that your intent?
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978
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979 I work very hard to make this world a better place. I donate to charity,
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980 I help my friends and neighbors whenever I can, I speak out against
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981 abuse and lies. I also LISTEN to the other side. Its amazing how usefull
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982 that is. It gives me a chance to understand how there minds work, and
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983 where they are coming from. I can then proccede to tell them just how
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984 full of sh*t they are, and why. Its a method you might want to try.
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985 Being destructive all the time serves no good purpose. It just makes people
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986 think you are a whiny neurotic. And thus they ignore you, or worse they
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987 do the opposite of what you recomend. If your only goal is to spew without
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988 results, then thats fine. If however you truely want to make a change...
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989
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990 I work my way, you shot yourself in the foot your way. The tone of this
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991 message has not been friendly I know. But frankly, I've gotten very tired
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992 of you questioning my personal integrity. I am all to painfully aware of my
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993 faults, as well as my strengths. I am also well aware of what goes on in
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994 my little corner of the admin building at work. People are not perfect. Thats
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995 a lesson you should have learned by now. We're all fighting entropy. Some of
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996 us are doing it by building, rather then destroying.
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997
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998 An Astral Dreamer
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