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001=Usr:0 Null User 06/30/87 20:34 Msg:0 Call:0 Lines:19
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1$If you are in need of help, you need but ask...
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2$************************* 05 SEP 91 **************************************
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3$Welcome to BWMS II (BackWater Message System II) Mike Day System operator
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4$**************************************************************************
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5$GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS II IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
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6$ PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
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7$BWMS II was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS II is a privately
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8$owned and operated system which is currently open for use by the general
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9$public. No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the
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10$system is privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all
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11$messages which I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the
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12$system, it will be periodically purged of messages (only 999 lines of data
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13$can be saved). To leave a message, type 'ENTER'. Use ctrl/C to get out
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14$the ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering
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15$the message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to
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16$replace the line. To exit from the system, type 'BYE' then hang up.
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17$Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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18$**************************************************************************
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19$
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002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 09/05/91 23:04 Msg:6411 Call:37049 Lines:2
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20 A new disk for the system, and a new era for the USSR.
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21 ********************************************************
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003=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/05/91 23:40 Msg:6412 Call:37050 Lines:35
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22 &*&*&*&*'s
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23
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24 At the top!
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25
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26 And now for another poem.
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27
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28 Food for thought
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29 A well used phrase
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30 A meaning tied to it
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31
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32 A table turned
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33 A light gone out
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34 A laddle in the churn
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35
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36 Central meanings ofteen hide the outer inner piece
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37 And moments turn upon the world with hidden scary feet
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38
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39 The mantle taken is heavy still
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40 Though the thought is not complete
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41 The mounting cost of holding it
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42 can make of life a cheat
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43
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44 Shelter holds the wealth of hiding
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45 As do the words we speak
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46 They carry us into the future
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47 And of the past bespeak
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48
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49 Calous in inception
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50 Loose beyond belief
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51 Knowing that you've found it
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52 And lost it to a thief
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53
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54 An Astral Dreamer
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55 &*&*&*&*'s (And so the world changes.)
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56
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004=Usr:165 Bart Simpson 09/06/91 18:04 Msg:6414 Call:37070 Lines:101
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57
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58 By DAN CARMICHAEL
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59 WASHINGTON (UPI) -- A federal grand jury Friday returned a 10-count
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60 indictment against Clair George, formerly the third highest official of the CIA
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61 accusing him of perjury in trying to cover up the Iran-Contra scandal.
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62 George was the CIA's deputy director of operations from 1984 to 1987.s The
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63 indictment accuses him of perjury, false statements and obstruction in
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64 connection with congressional and grand jury investigations into the Iran-Contr
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65 sdl.
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66
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67 Because George was such a high-ranking CIA official, the indictment raises
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68 new questions about the extent and nature of CIA knowledge of the worst scandal
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69 of Ronald Reagan's presidency.
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70
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71 Another former top CIA official, Alan Fiers, pleaded guilty in July and bega
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72 cooperating with prosecutors. Fiers had testified before the grand jury that
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73 returned the indictment.
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74 Eight of the 10 charges against George stem from testimony he gave to three
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75 congressional committees in October and December 1986.
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76 The final two counts of the indictment, handed up to a federal magistrate at
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77 3:50 p.m. EDT, accuse him of obstruction and making false statements to a
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78 federal grand jury in April 1991.
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79 If convicted on all the charges, George faces a maximum sentence of 50 years
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80 in prison and fines of $2.5 million.
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81 George said in a statement, "This crisis, this indictment merely makes me a
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82 pawn in the continuing drama of political exploitation."
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83 For almost five years, special prosecutor Lawrence Walsh and his team of
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84 lawyers and investigators have conducted a criminal investigation of the
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85 scandal.
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86 The investigation hit paydirt early this summer with the guilty plea by
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87 Fiers, former chief of the CIA's Central American Task Force. Fiers pleaded
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88 guilty to two counts in the scandal and began cooperating with prosecutors.
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89
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90 Fiers implicated George in the scandal. George, 61, was deputy director for
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91 CIA operations during the Iran-Contra affair -- in charge of the CIA's overseas
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92 spy operations and networks.
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93
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94 Walsh has stated publicly that he has been investigating "a coverup in the
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95 CIA," leading to reports of increasing nervousness among senior officials of th
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96 aywith headquarters in suburban Langley, Va.
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97
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98 George had a 32-year CIA career, but retired in November 1987 -- almost a
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99 year after the Iran-Contra scandal exploded into public view. He became a
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100 security consultant.
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101
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102 George told key members of Congress in 1986 that he knew little about Oliver
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103 North's secret Contra supply operation. He also claimed he did not know about
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104 the diversion of money from secret arms sales to Iran until it was publicly
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105 disclosed in November 1986.
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106
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107 Proceeds from the arms sales were wired to the Nicaraguan Contra rebels,
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108 although Congress had outlawed such assistance.
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109
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110 George told congressional investigators, "Whatever my strengths and
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111 weaknesses, I was almost meglomaniacal in trying to prove one thing: that we
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112 were not involved in that activity because it would have been illegal."
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113
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114 But as part of his plea agreement with prosecutors, Fiers said he told Georg
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115 a he diversion of arms profits several months before it became public.
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116 Fiers said George ordered him to mislead Congress about the CIA's knowledge of
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117 North's Contra operations.
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118 A prosecution document filed when Fiers pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor
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119 counts of withholding information from Congress suggested that George already
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120 knew about the diversion when Fiers mentioned it to him.
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121 According to that document, George responded to the information by saying:
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122 "Now you are one of a handful of people who know about this."
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123
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124 The accusations against top CIA officials also renew a series of questions
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125 about President Bush's nomination of Robert Gates to head the CIA.
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126
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127 Gates was deputy director of intelligence when the scandal became public and
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128 members of Congress want to question him about his claim that he knew little
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129 about it.
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130 Hearings into the Gates nomination are scheduled to begin in mid- September.
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131
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132 Former intelligence agents have described George as tough, a consummate
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133 spymaster. But others said he had contempt for Congress, and his combative
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134 personality and overriding penchant for secrecy mirrored the nature of William
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135 Casey, the CIA director who died shortly after the Iran-Contra scandal became
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136 public.
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137
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138 Walsh's investigation has recently focused on whether CIA officials joined a
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139 conspiracy to mislead Congress about their knowledge of the scandal.
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140
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141 The grand jury also is believed to examining the role of Duane Clarridge,
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142 another senior CIA official who once headed the agency's European division.
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143
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144 The indictment of George is the 11th legal action brought by Walsh and the
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145 third involving an official of the CIA. Many of the cases involved guilty pleas
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146
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147 ======================> A new system based on democracy in "The Evil Empire",
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148 our enemy for so many years, so many dollars. Meanwhile, here in the the
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149 good ole US of A, the same old cold warriors rule, their despotic regimes
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150 ignoring the rule of Constitution and law. Perhaps a coup of some kind is
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151 in order here. Some are predicting an assassination attempt when Bush visits
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152 Portland to campaign for Bob Packwood. Perhaps they will be successful and
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153 we'll see what Danny boy does. Perhaps it will be the spark for the New
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154 Revolution and lead back to a democratic form of government in this country
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155 again.<==================================
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156 696969696969696969
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005=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur 09/06/91 22:13 Msg:6415 Call:37073 Lines:33
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158 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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159 ("The Evil Empire")--
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160 "Et tu, Brute?"
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161 ...................................................Doctor Duran Duran
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162 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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163 end mess.
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164 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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165
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166 It facinates the imagination...
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167 Look at your hands, then overlap them with your fingers locked.
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168 Bring your thumbs to your lips and exhale.
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169 Think of your youngest memory.
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170 Think of what your oldest thought will be.
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171 Open your hands, palms up.
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172 Look at them carefully, and imagine yourself without them.
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173 then, your arms...
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174 then, your legs...
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175 then, your eyes...
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176 then, your lips...
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177 then, your ears...
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178 What's left?
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179 What happens when we die?
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180 People have been on this planet for thousands of years--
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181 and we will only live for one hundred of them, MAX!
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182 Your body will not last forever...
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183 Just as we are born, we die--
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184 every one of us Is there a spiritual world--
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185 or nothing???
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186 I think about this every once in a while..........
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187
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188 AND IT SHOCKS THE HELL OUT OF ME!!!...................Doctor Duran Duran
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189 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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190 end mess.
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006=Usr:530 Jessie a. 09/07/91 07:28 Msg:6416 Call:37082 Lines:7
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191@
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192 !*!*!*!*!*
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193 Duran? What would you say if someone told you they remember both a world
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194 between lives and past times on earth. Would it be more upsetting to you
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195 than there being nothing after death?
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196 Jessie
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197 *!*!*!*!*!
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007=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/07/91 19:11 Msg:6417 Call:37093 Lines:11
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198 &*&*&*&*'s
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199 Jessie, I've heard of that stuff, and even read a bit about it. The thing that
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200 struck me was, there just havn't been enough people on this planet for
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201 everyone alive today to have lived more then about 1.8 or so times.
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202
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203 Now, if you want to throw in other planets, or say that only some people
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204 do the recycling thing...
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205
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206 An Astral Dreamer
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207 &*&*&*&*'s (No poem today, the muse has gone away)
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208
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008=Usr:618 ERIC D. VASBINDE 09/08/91 00:09 Msg:6419 Call:37098 Lines:8
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209 ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
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211 IF odd miscellanious is what you want please check out
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212 my message in the shopping mall for great misc.!!!!
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213 Thanx,
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214 ERIC D. VASBINDER
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216 ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
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009=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur 09/08/91 01:39 Msg:6422 Call:37100 Lines:21
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217 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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219 Life has so many dimensions to it I get lost inside.
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220 I hope that others feel the same...
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221 Alone...no one is alone in this world, or any other;
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222 Our feelings get so wrapped up with our own worlds
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223 sometimes we feel ignored or left out,
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224 especially when we do things for others without recognition.
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225 My rewards are painful impressions of silent reactions from those
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226 whom I love with a deep respect.
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227 More frustrating, yet, is that there exists no cure.
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228 This is when I feel alone...and frustrated...
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229 BUT, I believe that no one is alone.
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230 Spiritually or physically, it seems like there is always
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231 someone there to help you out...I don't know why...
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232 your guess is as good as mine!
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233 All I know is that it's great to be alive..."right here, right now."
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234
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235 ............................................Doctor Duran Duran
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236 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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237 end mess.
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010=Usr:530 Jessie a. 09/08/91 07:33 Msg:6427 Call:37107 Lines:15
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238 *!*!*!*!*!*!*!
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239 Astral Dreamer...depends on what civilizations you count as having existed.
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240 Depends on what history of the earth one is willing to consider. Depends on
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241 one's belief (as you mentioned) in other life on other places. Sometimes it
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242 seems to me that a belief that we are the only life form in all of a god's
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243 creation is more absurd than the recognition that maybe life is not nearly
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244 centric as we make it to be. I never limit what a god can do. And just
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245 maybe it is possible that he doesn't like to lose something he puts a lot of
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246 time and effort into and he'd rather it grow in understanding instead.
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247 Each man chooses what he finds beauty in and some find the beauty in walking
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248 back into a life and recognizing people we have walked with before as old
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249 friends to love once again. A way of growing love so to speak because each
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250 life we love them more.
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251 Jessie
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252 *!*!*!*!*!*!*!
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011=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/08/91 09:36 Msg:6428 Call:37110 Lines:20
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253 &*&*&*&*'s
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254 Jessie, Got it. (Don't neccesarily believe in it myself, but I'm willing
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255 to work in your context to see where your coming from.)
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256
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257 A question or two. I have noticed both in myself and others a
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258 predisposition towards certain personality types. Science seems to imply
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259 that these are in fact genetic, and that atleast some portion of
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260 personality is inherited. Would you please comment on this?
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261
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262@Next, I have read some on this subject, and
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263 Next, how does one get in touch with these past lives. I've read some
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264 on the subject, but have yet to have any luck in this myself. I
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265 seem to be a fairly unique person, and see little reason for it.
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266 Thus, if past lives exist, then the answer may be there. (Not
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267 to mention the solution to some problems.)
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268
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269 An Astral Dreamer
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270 &*&*&*&*'s (Mostly open minded. Afraid of GIGO(Garbage In, Garbage Out))
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271
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272 P.S. Everyone thinks they are differant. I've had people tell me I am.
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012=Usr:530 Jessie a. 09/08/91 16:25 Msg:6429 Call:37115 Lines:31
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273 *!*!*!*!*!*!
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274 Astral dreamer, I can't help you on genetics and whether we are predisposed
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275 to one discipline or another. I have seen no research on this. So I'll use
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276 my own life....my sonher graduated from Cal Tech. His brother went to
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277 MIT in computers. His other brother ended up in a computer career. All
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278 three sons were scientifically oriented. Now...my own son....he is good at
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279 math, science, music, art and writing. The science disposition is still
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280 there but it is not where he wishes to pursue a career. I was good in
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281 scien, math, art and a fair hand at writing. My son wants to be a teacher
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282 he thinks, using none of his skills in a career specific manner. Could
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283 genetics play a part? Yes. On the other hand I know this kid from other
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284 lives....what I see in him is what I have known him for in those lives. The
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285 ribald sense of humor, the sense of true caring for mankind, the guts to
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286 stick to a task even though it is hard, the harshness upon himself for his
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287 failings. Maybe we are a bit of both. He chose his parents before this
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288 birth, I remember agreements with the people I was born with that are old
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289 friends this time to come here together. Perhaps he chose people of like
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290 interests to his own, I do not know. Perhaps genetically it was available
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291 to him because his father and I chose who we were to be born to?
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292
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293 Some questions I cannot answer. I know only of my own memories and those
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294 of my child and my friends. We remember things other people do not and
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295 have talked of them with each other. Confirming specific times and places
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296 and details that we have shared.
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297
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298 Ultimately each man chooses what concepts they pursue in life. And my path
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299 has been to pursue one that general society does not accept in this country.
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300 In another country there would be no question that this concept was a viable
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301 one. All I know is that my life is far more whole and complete having that
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302 knowledge than if I had been without it.
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303 Jessie
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013=Usr:131 THE VISION 09/08/91 17:24 Msg:6431 Call:37118 Lines:6
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304 _________________________________________________The Vision Lurker__________
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305 AD and Jessie: enjoying your conversation about spiritualism/past lives.
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306 Pretty interesting stuff although I tend not to believe it (although am
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307 open and intrigued by the discussion and topic)
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308 ____________________________________________________________________________
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014=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/08/91 19:45 Msg:6433 Call:37123 Lines:27
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310 &*&*&*&*'s
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311 Jessie, those are more or less the answers I was expecting. I guess it
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312 makes sense that we all have our own paths to tread.
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313
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314 I don't remember having lived any past lives myself, though I do sometimes
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315 find myself having an affinity for certain people. I have also noticed
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316 that there is a tendancy for my life to follow some sort of a logical
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317 progression. Sometimes its wierd how it works.
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318
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319 As my alias indicates, dreams are a major area of fascination for me.
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320 I almost believe that some sort of communication outside of my own
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321 head goes on. I can remember a number of dreams where I heard or
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322 experianced things that were outside my own domain. I also have
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323 had several very short dreams of the future. Never anything
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324 important, just 2 or 3 second snippets that later give me a
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325 sense of deja-vu. Generally these happen 6 months to a year
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326 before they become true. The implications of this tend to
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327 worry me, as I do not believe in predestination. (Just
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328 predisposition.) I believe it is possible that I have
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329 many others that do not come true, and thus I do not
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330 remember them.
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332 What do the rest of you believe dreams to be?
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334 An Astral Dreamer
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335 &*&*&*&*'s (This space left blank, more or less)
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015=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur 09/08/91 23:49 Msg:6435 Call:37126 Lines:17
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337 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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339 Dreaming is the complete escape from reality...
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340 I look forward to sleeping after a good day--
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341 Half of the time, dreams are lost and forgotten,
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342 but for the most part, they are still alive.
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343 Dreams are the greatest product of the imagination--
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344 creativity is my best friend.
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345 Ponder on this...
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346 If it feels so natural to dream, and leave this world
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347 for several hours at a time (deep sleep), won't death
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348 be the same? It appears that everyone here has survived
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349 birth--that wasn't so bad, now that I recall...
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350
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351 .................................................Doctor Duran Duran
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352 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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353 end mess.
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016=Usr:530 Jessie a. 09/09/91 07:14 Msg:6436 Call:37131 Lines:18
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354 *!*!*!*!*!*!
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355 Astral Dreamer, do you know there are many types of dreams that humans
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356 have? Besides dreams that work out problems in our lives or turn over things
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357 we need to deal with in life...there are things called lucid dreams. One
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358 becomes aware in the dream one is dreaming. You are awake inside a dream
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359 and can manipulate it. Deja Vu dreams are common and people will find them-
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360 selves walking through a situation they dreamed about. We also have dreams
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361 of places we have been before, we can meet people we know that we are to
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362 find in a dream...the list is long.
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363
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364 My experience is that if I find an attraction to a person in life
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365 immediately, here usually is a reason that turns up later.ften I know
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366 them from the past. What the peramiters of mankind are is fascinating.
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367 And the more we explore how varied those peramiters are, the more our lives
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368 have a richness to them. I can see why you would be interested in this
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369 aspect of your life.
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370 Jessie
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371 *!*!*!*!*!*!
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017=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/09/91 18:45 Msg:6437 Call:37143 Lines:15
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372 &*&*&*&*'s
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373 Jessie, I have on occasion had lucid dreams. I've found that my control
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374 only extends to myself. Other aspects of the dream continue to
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375 act independently of my will. This used to annoy me a great deal,
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376 but I have for the most part come to terms with it.
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377
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378 I sort of suspect that the world we life in is just a shadow world,
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379 A stage upon which we play our parts. In dreams I suspect we
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380 grasp some small part of the place were the plays are written.
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381
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382 Or perhaps not. Time or death will tell.
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384 An Astral Dreamer
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385 &*&*&*&*'s
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388 The coming of the new age drew the Historian out of his slumber.
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389 Woken by the stirings and stresses of the hatchling era against the
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390 strands of time. Happenings too important to leave to minions are a foot.
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391 Nations merging and separating; too many details. So much could be left
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392 out. But, yet the time seemed too early. Could it be that the hatchling
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393 is premature? Birth before the great year's ending would not be a good thing.
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394 The scales are still at an imbalance. Even a half a century too soon would
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395 send irrevocable ripples throughout the cosmos.
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396 The Historian looked out through the darkness and to a point of blue
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397 green light. Interferance is inevitable. But where? But when?
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019=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur 09/09/91 21:16 Msg:6439 Call:37145 Lines:9
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399 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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400
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401 The most enjoyable things in life are the simplest,
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402 yet, it seems that most go in-depth for enjoyment...
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403 why???
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404
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405 .................................................Doctor Duran Duran
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406 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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407 end mess.
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020=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/09/91 23:12 Msg:6440 Call:37148 Lines:19
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408 &*&*&*&*'s
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409
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410 We may enjoy the simple things
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411 Or so we like to think
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412
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413 In fact we like the smallest bits
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414 of that which is not simple at all
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415
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416 A bit of this, a bit of that, a bit of something else.
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417 Each simple in its own right
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418@
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419@
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420
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421 But what is the complex?
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422 Its just simple little bits.
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423
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424 An Astral Dreamer
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425 &*&*&*&*'s (You can't win them all. Sometimes you don't even score.)
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426
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021=Usr:530 Jessie a. 09/10/91 06:37 Msg:6441 Call:37152 Lines:8
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427 *!*!*!*!*!*!*!
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428 I have found in lucid dreams I can affect the environment surrounding me
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429 though I have never tried to affect other people in the dreams. As a way
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430 to play in life and feel a sense of total freedom they are fascinating.
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431
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432 I suspect each of us uses them for different purpos Astral Dreamer.
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433 Jessie
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434 *!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!
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022=Usr:131 THE VISION 09/10/91 19:22 Msg:6443 Call:37176 Lines:21
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435 ____________________________T H E V I S I O N__________________________
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436 Hello. I have many dreams about planes and plane crashes. I think this
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437 is because I have a real phobia of flying. It was learned when I was
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438 about 8 or 9 years old and was in a crash landing in Hawaii. Must've
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439 really set in and developed because I haven't flown since and refuse to
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440 fly completely...(I've even taken greyhound for 34 hours from school
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441 and had the toilet overflow..and, being above the engine, it smelled
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442 like hot piss the whole way!! :) was terrible!...the train is beautiful
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443 though. Even if I wasn't afraid of flying I'd probably still take the
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444 train.
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445 (oh BTW it wasn't me who made the toilet overflow...I only used the
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446 restroom at stops..and they weren't much better :P Yuk!
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447 I also dream about flying (like Superman) a lot...except it is really hard
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448 to do it at first and I have to try really hard. Then it gets easier but
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449 it only lasts for a little while and soon I'm down on the ground again
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450 trying to fly but can't do it. It's frustrating and annoying! :)
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451 I don't really have nightmares anymore...they are so fascinating. I kind
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452 of miss having them. Every once in a while I'll have one but they're
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453 never as bad as when I was a kid.
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454 __________________________________________________________The Vision_______
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455
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023=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur 09/10/91 22:58 Msg:6447 Call:37184 Lines:32
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456 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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457
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458 A Real Experience...
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459
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460 Out on my own, all alone
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461 in the shadows of the moon and stars
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462 I walked through the knee-high grass
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463 growing in the sand.
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464 The wind blew at my face, and the chill of Fall was very near;
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465 as I followed an abandoned trail,
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466 I could hear the thundering waves hitting the beach.
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467 I reached a cliff (ten feet high)
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468 that a overlooked a scenery so beautiful,
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469 it sent a warm chill down from head to toe.
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470 The moon lit the night to shine a peaceful light
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471 on everything below.
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472 The clouds slid across the evening sky
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473 like a balloon on ice;
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474 and beyond the clouds,
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475 the heavens shown through with greatness.
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476 Every star and planet was visible to the naked eye,
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477 and they sparkled like diamonds on black velvet.
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478 Together with the wind in my face,
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479 and the sense of complete freedom from reality,
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480 I absorbed the sound of the ocean's power
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481 with the silent beauty of the heavens above.
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482 I have never experienced anything like it before,
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483 nature's most peaceful bliss in my eyes.
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484
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485 ..............................................Doctor Duran Duran
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486 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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487 end mess.
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024=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 09/12/91 00:20 Msg:6450 Call:37187 Lines:3
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488 Sorry all, the mail room seems to be suffering from galoping bugitus.
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489 sometimes crashing the system. It is back on line for now.
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490 *********************** CM **********************************
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025=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/12/91 06:29 Msg:6452 Call:37190 Lines:9
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491 &*&*&*&*'s
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492 Is it save to leave mail CM? I've trashed the system twice now, and
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493 am feeling a bit guilty...
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494
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495 TV: call my board if you want a reply to your email.
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496
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497 An Astral Dreamer
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498 &*&*&*&*'s (Bug attractor)
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499
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026=Usr:219 Friar Mossback 09/12/91 07:23 Msg:6454 Call:37191 Lines:23
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500 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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501 For Sale or Trade
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502 I was stupid, and not thinking,s I have the following to sell
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503 or trade. 2 70ns 4 meg by 9 simm module. These are completely
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504 unused, and were purchased only a week ago. I o them from
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505 Nevada Computer, and the ill not let me return them as there is
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506 nothing wrong with them. I onywanted to add 8 mb to my
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507 machine, and got only two simms. Bzzzzz! Yo an't do that, you
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508 ne to add them in sets of four. No problem, justsnd off
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509 another $ 43 nd get two more sets, right? Bzzzz! You can'td
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510 that either. My mcine can't handle 4 mb simms, only up to
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511 eight (actually either four o ight) simms. And only 256k or
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512 1m imms. So you see where this is heading. I woudlike to
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513 trade two saic bag protected, never unpacked, 4mb simm modue
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514 for 4 1mb simm modls of the 70ns clan. Or I will sell them and
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515 get the money for the simmodules I need.Please let me know
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516 here, or call 464-xxxx during the da. I will pay postage both
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517 ways. (How much can it be, they don't weightat much)
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518 Thanks,
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519 Dave
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520 Upload fuzzy, but you get the idea.
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521 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Friar [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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522
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027=Usr:322 Stray Cat 09/12/91 10:35 Msg:6457 Call:37194 Lines:6
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523
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524 LOOKS LIKE FOREST GROVE HAD A RATHER BAD DAY YESTERDAY. Funny neither
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525 incident hit the dailies. Particularly funny about the school incident ...
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526 wish somebody would say what directly led up to them being suspended. Was
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527 it JUST the clothes or some trumped up "behavioral problem?"
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528
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028=Usr:322 Stray Cat 09/12/91 10:41 Msg:6458 Call:37195 Lines:3
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529
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530 .... uh, excuse. That should be the DAILY **not** (as we all know) DAILIES.
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531
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029=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/12/91 20:58 Msg:6459 Call:37206 Lines:5
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532 &*&*&*&*'s
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533 Just semi-lurking.
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534
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535 An Astral Dreamer
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536 &*&*&*&*'s (<[{}]>) (No hidden meaning)
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030=Usr:131 THE VISION 09/12/91 21:51 Msg:6460 Call:37207 Lines:1
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537 ________________________________________________________Visionlurker________
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031=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur 09/12/91 22:24 Msg:6461 Call:37208 Lines:44
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538 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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539
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540 I'm silent in the corner without any feeling,
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541 alone to sit in sorrowful peace.
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542 My crimes - I am guilty...
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543 many things I have done with careless thought.
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544 How many people can be touched with one hatred excerpt
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545 from the lips of a fool?
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546 There's nothing to say in the aftermath,
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547 for actions speak louder than words....
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548 silence, then, is, but still, golden.
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549 Now, it's my turn to experience the other side of the crime,
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550 but ten-times fold.
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551 ...............................................Doctor Duran Duran
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552 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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553 end mess.
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554
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555 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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556
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557 "DAILIES"--
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558 Who cares? Does the issue directly affect you? Were you under the gun
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559 for suspension in that incident?
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560 Each for his own -- ya' know?
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561 Would you sacrifice your day to protest what happened at Forest Grove HS?
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562 You and I both know what Raiders' clothing stands for besides just a
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563 little more attention (which seems totally harmless). I mean, who cares
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564 if somebody wants to wear what they want to wear - freedom of expression,
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565 right? But, what if you are wearing a widely-accepted norm? What if
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566 public school officials were to wear police uniforms in school? I bet
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567 children and parents would really appreciate that kind of psychology
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568 used on a daily basis.
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569 So, getting back to my point - who cares? Are you going to go to pieces
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570 over the issue, or are you just trying to get a conversation going?
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571 I really am not trying to shoot ya down, far from it, but when it comes
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572 to the MEDIA covering news, I just think things are totally blown out of
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573 proportion...from both sides of good and evil...from that "cannibal" in
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574 Wisconsin to that damn weather cat named BOB!!! The news is just trying
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575 to get their ratings to be #1 in business, just as if you and I were going
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576 for the same job (especially after telling you how I feel)
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577 I think you know what I mean......
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578
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579 ................................................Doctor Duran Duran
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580 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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581 end mess.
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032=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 09/13/91 22:02 Msg:6467 Call:37231 Lines:4
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582 Yes, MAIL is fine for now. It just has a problem if it gets too full, so I
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583 went through and cleaned out mail that was over a year old.
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584 gee, doesn that remind you of gthe old Blue Parrot problems? .....
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585 ************************ CM ****************************************
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033=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/15/91 21:10 Msg:6474 Call:37258 Lines:21
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586 &*&*&*&*'s
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587
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588 Well, I'm feeling optomistic today. Not.
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589
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590 I hate being down. It makes me grouchy and sarcastic. It makes me
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591 hate the thought of tommorow.
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592
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593 Of course I always get over it.
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594
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595 But I'm getting really tired of hitting these lows. I've got all sorts
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596 of theories as to what causes them. Some wild, and some mundane.
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597
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598 Whats wierd, is I really do know whats wrong with me, even if I don't
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599 know why. But I can't seem to do anything much about it. I think
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600 thats the worst part.
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601
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602 I'll get over it. I always do. I'm very frigging good at it.
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603
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604 An Astral Dreamer
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605 &*&*&*&*'s (Traped in a cage of his own making?)
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606
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034=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur 09/15/91 21:34 Msg:6476 Call:37259 Lines:22
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607 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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608
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609 Everytime I concentrate on the things that I really hate,
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610 I grow old inside and try to hide my most important feelings.
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611 A wall is built around me that can only grow with more lies.
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612 Breaking it down and leaving it all behind becomes more of a
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613 dream than reality...it's really too bad.
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614
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615 So I escape from reality, and then I'm gone...
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616 no one can touch me, and I cannot hurt anyone's feelings.
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617 My imagination takes me to the four corners of the world,
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618 then to the edge of the galaxy where I can look at things from the
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619 outside-in.
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620
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621 Once I'm there, I can look at my life from scratch 'til now -- a very
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622 beautiful site to see and learn from.
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623
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624 Then my alarm sounds!!!! 'Time to get ready for work...
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625
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626 ..............................................Doctor Duran Duran
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627 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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628 end mess.
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035=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/16/91 17:26 Msg:6479 Call:37278 Lines:6
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629 &*&*&*&*'s
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630 Well, I'm feeling a good deal better today. Knew I would.
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631
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632 An Astral Dreamer
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633 &*&*&*&*'s (Conversation killer?)
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634
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036=Usr:131 THE VISION 09/16/91 19:49 Msg:6481 Call:37282 Lines:7
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635 _______________________________T H E V I S I O N___________________________
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636 AD - Good to see you're feeling better! I get in those moods sometimes as
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637 well. It's pretty empty/slow around here lately huh? Oh well...anyways, see
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638 ya later. - To Doctor Duran Duran - I have really enjoyed your posts; keep
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639 them coming! You've got some really good written expression....
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640 _______________________________________________________________The Vision____
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641
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037=Usr:165 Bart Simpson 09/17/91 02:42 Msg:6484 Call:37289 Lines:65
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642 696969696969
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643
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644 BCCI/Oct Surprise: Castalero Killing Source: Peacenet
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645
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646 On a Saturday in August '91, reporter Joseph Danial Caselero was found dead in
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647 a hotel room in the Sheraton in Martinsburg, West Virginia. His death was
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648 ruled a suicide and his body was embalmed the next day. His family was angry
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649 that the embalming was ordered before they were notified.
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650
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651 Casalero's investigations may have been about to tie together the October
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652 Surprise, BCCI, Reagan adminstration officials, and INSLAW software piracy
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653 case. The latter is an eight-year court case in which the computer firm,
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654 INSLAW, has accused the Justice Department of stealing its software.
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655
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656 Casalero had a theory about a network, allegedly led by an associate of former
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657 Attorney General Edwin Meese, that he called the "octopus". The theory
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658 alleges that the "octopus" funneled money through BCCI to the Iranian
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659 government to keep the 52 American hostages from being released before the
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660 1980 presidential election. The Republican campaign team believed that
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661 release could have been a decisive October surprise, giving Jimmy Carter the
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662 victory. The theory alleges that as a reward, the "octopus" was allowed to
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663 sell INSLAW's software program to foreign governments, including Israel and
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664 Iraq.
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665
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666 Other reporters have explored the "octopus" theory, but Casalero alone claimed
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667 to be close to proving its existence and its connections to the Reagan and
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668 Bush adminstrations.
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669
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670 The media buried the story under leads touting Caslero's financial situation
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671 as a likely motive for suicide. The coroners said that his death "was not
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672 inconsistent with suicide". The FBI investigation amounted to a two hour
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673 interview with the local police, after which they announced that there was no
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674 reason to investigate further.
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675
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676 "Here you have a case of a man who told friends and confidants he was on the
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677 brink of proving the involvment of the Justice Department in possible criminal
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678 activity and nothing further is done," former Attorney General Elliot
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679 Richardson said. "I do not see how someone in a responsible position can let
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680 a thing like this stand," Richardson said refering to the FBI decision to not
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681 investigate further.
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682
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683 What was mentioned in only two newspaper reports of twelve this reporter could
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684 find, was that Casalero had been receiving phone calls threatening his life,
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685 warning him to back off of his investigation. And only one source quoted his
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686 mother saying that just days before his death he told her, "If there is an
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687 accident resulting in my death, don't believe it."
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688
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689 In a related devolpment British journalist, Anson Ng Yong, was found shot to
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690 death in Guatemala, where he'd been investigating Guatemalean army generals
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691 involvment to BCCI.
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692
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693 Somethings to think about as you listen to the reports on the confirmation
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694 hearings for Bush's choice to head the CIA, a man who should have been aware
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695 of the entire sordid affair. Either he is dishonest, or incompetent. Not
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696 good choices for the man heading the Central Intellegence Agency. The folks
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697 who were too busy running drugs, and selling arms to notice the falling of the
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698 Communist government that had been their primary focus since World War II.
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699 Incompetence or dishonesty. George Bush's man, alright. And Ollie North is
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700 a hero for getting off on a Constitutional technicality. That's right, the
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701 same Constitution towards which he showed so little respect, and tried so
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702 desparately to subvert, saved his ass. Irany...I mean irony, at it's finest.
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703
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704 696969696969696969
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705 Manuel Noriega and Saddam Hussein are the enemy?
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706
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038=Usr:31 The Doctor 09/17/91 12:37 Msg:6486 Call:37295 Lines:1
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707 ????????????????????? DocLurk
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039=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur 09/17/91 21:03 Msg:6487 Call:37304 Lines:14
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708 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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709
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710 I am tired now, my day is done;
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711 there was work, rest, and time for fun.
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712 But my eyes are closing soon too fast,
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713 for yesterday is gone, it's now the past...
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714 History was made, and what have I done?
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715 I worked, rested, and had some fun.
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716 Tomorrow will come and go the same,
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717 as I continue to do it again and again.
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718
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719 .................................................Doctor Duran Duran
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720 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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721 end mess.
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040=Usr:610 Peace 09/18/91 16:47 Msg:6489 Call:37320 Lines:4
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722 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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723 DocLurk: No, sweetheart, it is our own government (You remember?
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724 "by the people, for the people," etc?) which is the enemy.
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725 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Peace Lady $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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041=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/18/91 19:56 Msg:6492 Call:37321 Lines:11
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726 &*&*&*&*'s
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727 Been sort of slow recently.
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728
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729 I've written a couple more songs, but I think I'll hold them in reserve
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730 for now. On the plus side, I'm actually starting to like my voice.
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731 My guitar playing however is still real rough. What I need to do
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732 is get rich, so I can afford to hire other people to play the
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733 instruments for me. :-)
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734
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735 An Astral Dreamer
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736 &*&*&*&*'s (Pithy words and phrases ofteen create dazzes.)
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042=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur 09/18/91 22:11 Msg:6494 Call:37327 Lines:22
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737 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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738
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739 Give me a penny and I'll make it last,
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740 give me a dollar and it'll go fast.
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741 "So, buy me a stereo, a car, a house --
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742 I'll treat them with care," said the cat to the mouse.
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743 You reap what you sow,
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744 and that's no lie.
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745 Everyone who lives will eventually die.
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746
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747 Riddle me, confuse me, take me for a fool,
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748 everyone knows simplicity is cool.
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749 Spare me the details, I am totally perplexed,
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750 because everything you say is completely complex!
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751 All I know is that I try and try
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752 to earn respect in another's eye.
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753 Good hard work has taught me well,
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754 to stay away from an earthly hell.
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755
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756 ............................................Doctor Duran Duran
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757 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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758 end mess.
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043=Usr:31 The Doctor 09/19/91 16:02 Msg:6501 Call:37341 Lines:1
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759 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? DocLurk
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044=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur 09/19/91 23:18 Msg:6504 Call:37350 Lines:17
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760 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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761
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762 No new messages, give me a break!
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763 And, my stomach is killing me from that peppered steak...
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764 I just ate...
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765 yesterday.
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766
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767 Words to the wise,
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768 hey, listen guys--
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769 I got somethin' to say,
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770 today, today...
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771 How did it go? I guess I forgot,
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772 what I just learned, that was recently taught.
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773
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774 ....................................................Doctor Duran Duran
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775 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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776 end mess.
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045=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/20/91 06:47 Msg:6506 Call:37356 Lines:21
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777 &*&*&*&*'s
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778 (Imprompto versre follows)
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779
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780 Destiny, a two edged sword
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781 Shining bright in night.
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782 Has the hidden point of view
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783 Knows the secret word
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784
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785 Palace on an open hill
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786 Open gate for fate
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787 Find the missing piece or part
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788 Look and get your fill
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789
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790 Cable me your point of view
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791 Token sigh from high
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792 Take me into your silence
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793 Place me with the few
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794
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795 An Astral Dreamer
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796 &*&*&*&*'s (TGIF)
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797
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046=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/20/91 21:36 Msg:6508 Call:37370 Lines:7
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798 &*&*&*&*'s
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799 15 hours, 13 callers and no posts. Come now, you people must have something
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800 to say?
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801
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802 An Astral Dreamer
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803 &*&*&*&*'s ()
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804
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047=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur 09/20/91 22:19 Msg:6509 Call:37371 Lines:26
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805 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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806
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807 A recent observation today...
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808 about life in general and the games people play.
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809 I was watching a show (CLUB MTV),
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810 which had dancing, and music, and plenty to see.
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811 The leaders of tomorrow were flying around,
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812 with the bare essentials, and sex abound.
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813 As I examined them carefully, I curiously thought,
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814 about the present and future going to pot!
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815 Sometimes I think that I am out of place,
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816 in this "liberal" society and its revealing tastes.
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817 But not with this, which I am deeply concerned,
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818 about children that were taught, but never learned.
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819 There are so many traditions, and cultures lost,
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820 with common courtesies that seem to be tossed.
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821 "Give them an inch, and they'll take it a mile,"
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822 as they sit in their chairs with an innocent smile.
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823 Parents need to spend more time with their kids,
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824 not the TV with so many zr"vids"...
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825 I love life more than anyone can guess,
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826 maybe that's why I feel it's a mess...
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827
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828 ..................................................Doctor Duran Duran
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829 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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830 end mess.
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048=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 09/21/91 01:41 Msg:6511 Call:37373 Lines:5
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831 *%@#*%)_@#*%)__$@(%+$)!@+*%@#)+$(!@$@+)^%@#)(%+$(!@+#$(#*%&+($!+@(!@+$!+$!+@$(
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832 MIKE, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE ARCHIVE DISKS? WHAT ARE WE UP TO NOW? I NEED
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833 TO GET CAUGHT UP ASAP... THNX.
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834 %*_)*%@%@%*@*%_)!$_&^)_*%@# L'HOMME SANS PARITY *($@)%_)($)_!@*%_)()_@()_$($!@$
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835 STRANGE KEYBOARD? ALL CAPS???
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049=Usr:322 Stray Cat 09/21/91 07:51 Msg:6512 Call:37378 Lines:5
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836
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837 What I really wanna know is, does Packwood PAY for any of that police
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838 protection it took to raise half a mil for his campaign? And all the
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839 hours of planning, etc.? Or do WE get to pay for that too???
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840
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050=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/21/91 10:11 Msg:6513 Call:37379 Lines:27
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841 &*&*&*&*'s
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842 What I'd like to know, is why some people think the Oregonian is
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843 liberal. Check out the headlines in fridays paper. We had the
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844 "Loyal 800" who showed up to see Bush and Packwood, and then
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845 we had the "400" people who showed up to demonstate and riot.
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846 (Atleast thats what the oregonian said.) Of course, I talked to
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847 somebody who was there, and he claimed more then 800 people were
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848 there to demonstrate. So, what we have is an under reporting
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849 of the number of people there, a very slanted article on what
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850 went on (Emphasizing the rioting, which was a small group of
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851 people, and had nothing to do with the main part of the demonstrations.)
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852 Plus a glowing description of the Bush supporters and the terrible
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853 ordeal they went thru to get in. (Havn't they ever heard about that
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854 old adage, ...names may never hurt me?)
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855
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856 In the same paper they talk about the Govenors visit to Pendlton, (I
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857 believe thats right) Anyway, Shes trying to get a consensus on what
|
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858 needs to be done to overhaul the tax system here in oregon. So what does
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859 the oregonian report? A rather tepid description of her purpose, followed
|
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860 by nothing but quotes from people who are up for lettin the state go
|
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861 under financially, with nothing from the other side.
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862
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863 (Gotta go.)
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864
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865 An Astral Dreamer
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866 &*&*&*&*'s (Late, Late, Late.)
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867
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868 696969696969
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869 You got it right. Packwood, and the wealthy Republicans pay zero
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870 for the opportunity to raise more than $500,000 (That's a half a million big
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871 ones), while the taxpayers foot the bill for police overtime (the same police
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872 that don't have time anymore to respond to theft reports and other miscellaneou
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873 crimes). Not to mention tying up the Banfield AND MAX during Thursday morning
|
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874 rush hour. Who are these people anyway who get away with such arrogance?
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875 Can YOU afford $600 for a meal? Can YOU afford $600 for anything but a
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876 neccessity? Can YOU afford to re-elect Bob Packwood? A man who has embraced
|
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877 everything that the Reagan/Bush Empire stands for? (And he gives Bush a
|
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878 tree seedling...want to bet it never got planted anywhere and rotted in the
|
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879 pot?) Who owns who? Does Packwood represent Oregon interests? Or the out
|
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880 of state money lords who want to cut down all the trees and export them
|
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881 instead of keeping jobs processing them into lumber in the U.S.? And what
|
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882 about all the money Packwood receives from the other out of state interests
|
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883 that are so concerned with whether or not he gets re-elected? Do you think
|
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884 YOUR concerns are theirs? Over 1/2 million dollars in less than two hours.
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885 Not bad work if you can get it.
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886
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887 696969696969696969
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888
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052=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 09/21/91 15:20 Msg:6515 Call:37383 Lines:2
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889 L'homme: We are up to archive #105. Things have been rather slow...
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890 ************************ CM ***************************************
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053=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur 09/21/91 22:07 Msg:6516 Call:37390 Lines:17
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891 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
|
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892 Well, speaking about politics gets me cornfused, but, here I go...
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893
|
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894 Having a major bureaucracy (the US govt) costs the people of the US major
|
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895 bucks. Not to mention all of the minor bureaucracies in between the
|
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896 White House and your local city government. I do believe we are being taxed
|
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897 unfairly to this vary day and I have evidence (first-hand info. from prior
|
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898 experience with working for the government) prove it. Medical, education, and
|
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899 a secure standard of living are the three main priorities I would like to see
|
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900 our government tackle.
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901 Recently, I spoke with a middle-aged woman who was born and raised in Holland,
|
|
902 which is currently a socialistic country. According to our conversation, the
|
|
903 standard of living there is extremely secure. Education, medical and
|
|
904 government services are all paid for. I was amazed!!! I asked her how this
|
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905 was possible -- she said that there was approximately a 30% deduction out of
|
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906 paycheck and that was it -- no taxes to pay at the end of the year.
|
|
907 So, I asked myself why we have an average of 25% taken out of our paycheck at
|
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054=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur 09/21/91 22:25 Msg:6517 Call:37391 Lines:43
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908 and we still have to pay federal and state income taxes at the end of the year.
|
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909 Not to mention the fact that we end up paying bucks through the ass for all
|
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910 different kinds of insurance (I don't want to EVEN get started on insurance!).
|
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911 Then we have house payments, etc. To tell you the truth, our government IS
|
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912 getting the best out of us. 'Not to much to say about that, really.
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913
|
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914 So, my question is: why aren't we heading towards socialism at a faster
|
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915 momentum??? Because, the people who are in power now (who have all the money)
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916 DO NOT want to lose any more power than they have to. This "NEW WORLD ORDER"
|
|
917 thing is bad news -- if you like to read the bible occasionally, pick it up
|
|
918 and read about what the Lord thinks about it. I'll tell you anyway...
|
|
919 the "NEW WORLD ORDER" has to do with the consolidation of power and control
|
|
920 into one ruler and king over all the continents of the world. Satan's dream
|
|
921 is to rule the entire world. Supposedly, there will come an ANTI-CHRIST
|
|
922 (who will say he is Jesus coming back for the last time) who will lead a
|
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923 majority to believe in him that he is Jesus (when he's really not) and he will
|
|
924 become a very powerful political leader -- eventually becoming THE LEADER of
|
|
925 this "NEW WORLD ORDER". For a short time, there will be a world peace --
|
|
926 where no wars will be fought, then, soonafter, all hell will break loose!!!
|
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927
|
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928 So, I'm not to crazy about this "NEW WORLD ORDER" thing, it really scares me.
|
|
929 Another part of trivia -- people say Satan's number is 666. Well, a lot of
|
|
930 people believe that number means that Satan will have complete control over the
|
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931 world through the use of numbers -- i.e., what's your social security number;
|
|
932 or, your driver's license number; or, your credit card numbers; or, your bank
|
|
933 account numbers -- the principal behind it is that everyone will be known as
|
|
934 a number instead of a name (Satan's # happens to be 666).
|
|
935
|
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936 It really doesn't sound too stupid when you think about it all -- it just gets
|
|
937 really scary.
|
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938
|
|
939 As far as politics are concerned, I think we can eliminate a few hundred
|
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940 bureaucracies (AT LEAST), and start focussing our attention on more valuable
|
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941 resources on the "home-front", like our children for instance.
|
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942
|
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943 We still do live in one of the richest countries in the world, though, and
|
|
944 I am very thankful for that!!! Simple things, like indoor plumbing and nice
|
|
945 roads to drive on are very scarce in most parts of the world. Not to mention
|
|
946 our freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
947
|
|
948 ...............................................Doctor Duran Duran
|
|
949 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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950 end mess
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951 &*&*&*&*'s
|
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952
|
|
953 Time to finish off the disk.
|
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954
|
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955 I'm currently of the opinion that humanity is programmed to self
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956 destruct. Follow my logic if you will.
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957
|
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958 We all have an ego. Now, this in and of itself is not bad. It makes
|
|
959 us what we are. Individuals, beings with free will. Thats the upside.
|
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960
|
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961 The downside is the self deception we use to maintain our egos. This
|
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962 self deception is built in. It is a survival mechanism. Without it
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963 we would be forced to commit personality suicide, and death (In any
|
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964 form) is amoung our greatest fears.
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965
|
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966 So, if I am correct, then we are stuck in a system were we cannot succede
|
|
967 beyond a very inefiant level.
|
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968
|
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969 Has anyone ever wondered why it took us so long to get to this point?
|
|
970 (Speaking in terms of understanding the universe and the technology
|
|
971 that leads to and comes from said understanding.) Could it be because
|
|
972 any idiot can get lucky eventually?
|
|
973
|
|
974 Of course, I can of course postulate that we may if fact learn to
|
|
975 overcome this built in liability. But should we? What are we now?
|
|
976 What would we become? Do we have the courage?
|
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977
|
|
978 "We are stubborn built up places
|
|
979 Built close but apart.
|
|
980 Two walls that crumble and merge
|
|
981 time will wear apart
|
|
982 Casting shadows we are alone
|
|
983 moving closer?"
|
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984
|
|
985 Be aware of the filters on your ears and eyes. They may blind
|
|
986 and deafen you at times, but that is the least of their dangers.
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|
987 It is worse when they manipulate and twist the things you hear
|
|
988 and see.
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989
|
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990 Platos cave. Read it. Learn it. Know it.
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991
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992 (I'm through being preachy now.)
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993
|
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994 (Six lines remain.)
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995 (five including this one)
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996 Thats all for now.
|
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997
|
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998 An Astral Dreamer
|
|
999 &*&*&*&*'s (At the bottom, looking up.)
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