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001=Usr:0 Null User 06/30/87 20:34 Msg:0 Call:0 Lines:19
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1$If you are in need of help, you need but ask...
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2$************************* 07 JUN 91 **************************************
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3$Welcome to BWMS II (BackWater Message System II) Mike Day System operator
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4$**************************************************************************
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5$GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS II IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
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6$ PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
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7$BWMS II was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS II is a privately
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8$owned and operated system which is currently open for use by the general
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9$public. No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the
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10$system is privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all
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11$messages which I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the
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12$system, it will be periodically purged of messages (only 999 lines of data
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13$can be saved). To leave a message, type 'ENTER'. Use ctrl/C to get out
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14$the ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering
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15$the message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to
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16$replace the line. To exit from the system, type 'BYE' then hang up.
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17$Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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18$**************************************************************************
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19$
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002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 06/07/91 00:28 Msg:6172 Call:35422 Lines:3
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20 When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains,
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21 however improbable, must be the truth. -- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
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22 *****************************************************************
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003=Usr:267 phoenix polymorp 06/07/91 05:35 Msg:6173 Call:35425 Lines:6
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23 WORLD WATHC THREE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wwiii
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24 Yowza! At the top! er, what do I do now? Well, I guess a big hello to all
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25 fully evolved life forms out there, and to all the semi-evolved the secret is
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26 to keep banging those rocks together...
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27 Phoenix just ramb'lin on...
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28 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>POP!
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004=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/07/91 09:12 Msg:6175 Call:35429 Lines:26
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29 &*&*&*&*'s
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30 Personally I'm a wee bit tired of seeing the research and evaluation department
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31@getting put down here all the time. Reminds me to much of the old story about
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32@the fate off all messangers of bad news. Evaluation exists as a method
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33@independent of both curiculam and teachers
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34
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35 put down all the time here. Yes, we do have a good deal of computing resources
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36 , but we got them by being very frugal in our purchasing. As I said on the
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37 last disk, we stopped buying IBM as soon as there was an alternative (And I
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38 might add that it took some work to get this approved.) These clones were
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39 of better quality, and as much as 1/3 the price of actuall IBM's. This
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40 practice of maximizing our resources with the funds alloted. We use almost
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41 all of the power we have. We have 4 near secretaries(They do many different
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42 things, only two qualify as normal secretaries.) in a department of around
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43 25 people. That ain't a high ration. We can do this because we make good
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44 use of our resources.
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45
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46 It is very annoying to be constantly flamed when you know you are working
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47 your a*s off, doing your best to get the best value for the dollar, and t
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48 o make all the work you do meaningfull and usefull to the district as a
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49 whole. I've been working with these people for going on three years now,
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50 and it really hurts to see them put down all the time.
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51
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52 An Astral Dreamer
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53 &*&*&*&*'s
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54
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005=Usr:549 alan kennedy 06/08/91 19:47 Msg:6176 Call:35449 Lines:4
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55 Oh Black water!! The Doobies were great! Anybody else see the show?
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56 Just wonderin'
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57 HAVE A NICE DAY
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58 THE GRIZZLY
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006=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 06/09/91 12:54 Msg:6177 Call:35468 Lines:10
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59 *$()!#$_)*$_)*(_)#((%$#%*_)*$@#_$*#%)*_)$(!@$()@#)%*#@%^&*_)$*!_)(!_)(#~_)#(!@$
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60 I must agree with A.D. I have seen many departments where the computer power
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61 went to waste. Not in the Research and Evaluation Department. They had so
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62 much knowledge about computers they re-wrote the school district book on
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63 what could and couldn't be purchased. Pity poor DP when the knowledge
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64 base started moving up a couple floors! You can complain about ineffective
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65 use of computers in the district all you want, but you can't say it about
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66 the eval dept and be taken seriously.
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67 *_)@#*_)@#_%*@#%*_)!(#_)*%%* L'homme sans Parity *%_)!%_)*(_)*%@_#&%_)%*!@_%)*@
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68
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007=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/11/91 07:29 Msg:6180 Call:35502 Lines:13
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69 &*&*&*&*'s
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70 Well, at first I was dissaponted with the end of TP. Then I realized
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71 something. The ending we saw was the ending they filmed in case the
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72 show got cancelled. If the show continues in one form or another, I
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73 suspect we will find that the last five minutes or so were all a dream
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74 sequence. I sure hope so anyway.
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75
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76 Great episode(s) otherwise. Well, except for that little bomb bit.
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77 Wonder if anybody survived?
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78
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79 An Astral Dremer
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80 &*&*&*&*'s
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81
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008=Usr:267 phoenix polymorp 06/11/91 17:00 Msg:6181 Call:35510 Lines:18
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82 From the Beuro of Nosey Questions, World Watch Three>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wwiii
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83 Hello, Phoenix here. I just used the US command to see if any of my old aliass
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84 still exsisted. I found it interesting to see howmany people log on once, then
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85 never again. Another interesting point is that the records go back to the mid
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86 80's. In this search I ran across names of useres past. People in this elec-
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87 tronic community that are with us no more. One name ran across the screen that
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88 stuck out (probably 'cos it was all caps...), that of one Brittania Scarbrough.
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89 .
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90 I found it interesting, as I was reminded of her recently on another board.
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91 Some one mentioned my REAL name, this person said this in a post to someone nam
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92 ed Justin. So, could anyone tell me what Brit and Justin are up to these days
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93 and are they in the area?
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94 .
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95 One final bit (byte?); If you read this, why don't you drop a line saying how
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96 long you've been staying at the Inn. My first visit was eons ago, 84 or 85 i
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97 think. I've been off and on ever since (more off than on, I'm afraid). Whenev
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98 er I can get to a modem, this is the first place I stop. All4now. Phoenix.
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99 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>POP!
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009=Usr:322 Stray Cat 06/12/91 15:21 Msg:6182 Call:35526 Lines:39
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100
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101 =#|^<....=#|^<.... The University According to Dor0thy or Alice, Whichever
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102
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103 ... even though I've been impressed by a certain local dignitary's red
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104 herring public identity crisis ... and our president lead-poisoned shrill
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105 whining, I don't kid myself the same would divert the "Monster Boy" Mafia
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106 (or networked Athenahood emulating it) or they they would be smitted by
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107 my "Postively Grubstreet" expatiation sniped from loopholds of hastily
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108 constructed breastworks, and
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109
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110 ... even though I repeadly apologize for acting the moonstruck quack, I
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111 still consider overdramatic hydragogues/hemostats a justifiable counter-
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112 balance to the mystifying Lojik tradionally wielded to invalidate and
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113 habituate the masses and obscure the layers of possibility/probability
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114 underlying superficial so-called "reality" ... even if the treatments are
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115 still oversimplifications -- "dawdling over those '10%' trifles" might
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116 be the typically prim putoff (especially directed at women)
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117
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118 ... but because it has been publicly asserted that endemic cause and
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119 effect cannot be divined in a vaccuum, I thought it perfectly rational
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120 to point out that askig the public to do the same, especially when judg-
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121 ments tend to coincide with predetermined projections, seemed an
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122 ineffective extension of the same process.
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123
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124 ... and unless there continues to be insistence on a deep penetration
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125 of the reasoning of cannibalistic fasces-bearing officials operating
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126 behind facades of superficial scruples and delineatio made between them
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127 and those perhaps more "eucharistically" inclined, we will continue to
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128 produce little more than habitually helpless invalids in hawk to their
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129 eyeballs to countless AMA scams and other combinations of carburized
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130 criminals/industrialists/politicians, and perfect pawns for both.
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131
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132 @#;} ....@#;} ... Still trying to figure out who the #@#$%@#) I think I am
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133
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134 posting such bs
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135
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136 .... people do WEIRD things when they're put in the position of havig
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137 nothing to lose <grin>
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138
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010=Usr:322 Stray Cat 06/13/91 09:08 Msg:6183 Call:35534 Lines:4
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139
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140 Hmmmmmmmmm ... Maybe Atlas will really shrug and drop the world on the
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141 vipers below!
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142
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011=Usr:322 Stray Cat 06/13/91 21:01 Msg:6185 Call:35541 Lines:7
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143
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144 @_)(&$%^!@#(!@#(@)(!*&!&@%#(!#&!_*#_!)(#@*!_#!&%#!@_!*&$@~&^%@(&~^
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145
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146 It is wiser to be hendubious than cocksure.
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147
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148 @)(&#$%!)#&_()*$)+($@)*^#)!^#_(@*$+@$%_+)(#|!^%@#~$@~^)&^&%$&@OM2
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149
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012=Usr:322 Stray Cat 06/14/91 07:48 Msg:6187 Call:35547 Lines:44
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150
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151 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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152 IMAGINE
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153
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154 Imagine there's no heaven
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155 It's easy if you try
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156 No hell below us
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157 Above us only sky
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158
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159 Imagine all the people
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160 Living for today
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161
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162 Imagine there's no country
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163 It isn't hard to do
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164 Nothing to kill or die for
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165 And no religion too
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166
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167 Imagine all the people
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168 Living life in peace
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169
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170 You may say I'm a dreamer
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171 But I'm not the only one
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172 Hope someday you'll join us
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173 And the world will be one
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174
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175 Imagine no possessions
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176 I wonder if we can
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177 No need for greed or hunger
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178 A Brotherhood of Man
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179
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180 Imagie all the people
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181 Sharig all the world
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182
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183 You may say I'm a dreamer
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184 But I'm not the only one
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185 I hope you'll join us
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186 and the world will be one
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187
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188 John Lennon
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189
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190 oops ... looks like the n's are missing.
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191
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192 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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193
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013=Usr:92 Katherine Dohert 06/14/91 08:59 Msg:6188 Call:35549 Lines:8
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194 *****kathyD***memrsince84?********carlmaldenreporting*********
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195 I have the UUCP Blues today, major amounts of energy and anger
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196 directed towards a stupid little modem and a stupid 286box with
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197 **oheren* unix installed, this little test message to you is
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198 making me even crazier because of all the garbage characters that
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199 I keep having to delete off the screen as I type, I think this
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200 is a major part of the problem. aurgg
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201 ********************************kathyD***************************
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014=Usr:322 Stray Cat 06/14/91 10:13 Msg:6189 Call:35553 Lines:7
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202
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203 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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204
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205 .... AND you can't blindfold Justice by pulling the wool over her eyes.
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206 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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207
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208
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015=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 06/15/91 11:41 Msg:6191 Call:35572 Lines:7
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209 *_)@#$*%_)@(%_)(!(#_)(%()_(_~)(#_)(%(@_)(_)(%$@%(_(%@+_)_+!)$_@#+(%_)%(_)(%%()
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210 AD: You could be right, but don't you think the show is dead? ABC won't
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211 renew, and I don't think it is the kind of "safe" stuff that another network
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212 like FOX would ever pick up. Better check out alt.tv and see what the masses
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213 say...
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214 *%_)@*%_%*)@#)%*_)!$(_)@#%*_) L'homme sans Parity *%_*%_)($!_)($_)%*_%*@_%*@_
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215
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016=Usr:549 alan kennedy 06/16/91 01:59 Msg:6193 Call:35582 Lines:6
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216 |||||||||
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217 Phoenix-I too have been experiencing the more off than on. I have been in and
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218 out of the Inn since about '84. This phone number is the only one I still have
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219 memorized from back then. Anyone else out there?
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220 THE GRIZZLY
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221 ||||||||
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017=Usr:4 Milchar 06/16/91 16:14 Msg:6195 Call:35591 Lines:3
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222 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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223 Yes, we're out here... but we lurk a lot, too. -Milch
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224 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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018=Usr:549 alan kennedy 06/16/91 23:33 Msg:6196 Call:35596 Lines:1
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225 lurk
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019=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/17/91 20:33 Msg:6199 Call:35607 Lines:41
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226 &*&*&*&*'s
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227 L'homme, yes its more or less dead. I think the chances of a wrap up movie
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228 are somewhat decent though.
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229
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230 The more I think about it, the easier it becomes to take. They had sunk so
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231 low (In my opinion) as to have cooper foolishly give in to his darkside,
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232 when there was every indication that he had learned his lesson already, and
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233 that he would when faced with he challange make the right choice. The
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234 thought of watching CooBer kill people and make asses of people through the
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235 first seven or so episodes of the now canceled 3rd season just makes me
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236 sick.
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237
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238 I know that I'm sounding a lot like the many dweebs that criticize the show,
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239 but I really do feel cheated. They let me down, and not for the first time.
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240 In time I've been able to forgive them in the past (Either what they did
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241 made a disturbing sort of sense, or I waited it out and eventually it got
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242 resolved.) But I really suspect that this was the last straw. Even if the
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243 show had come back, I don't think I'd have been watching.
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244
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245 As of now I watch NO TV nothing. I don't even care to deal with the uneven
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246 quality of STTNG anymore. I never seem to remember the Simpsons (1 half
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247 hour show a week is easily forgotten).
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248
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249 Thought extreme, I'm not alone in my view. Most of the people I know
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250 have been in a steady downward spiral of TV viewing for several years. I
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251 don't doubt that most of them will bottom out at absolute 0 as I have. These
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252 are inteligent, well educated people. Not all of them in the Computing field
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253 either. What the H*ll has happaned? Even cable doesn't draw me anymore.
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254 Its expensive, and all it is is the same old stuff over and over again.
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255 Guligans Island was a classic, but how many times can you watch it before
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256 memorizing the half dozen plots they repeated over and over again.
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257
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258 Oh well, enough of my rant for now. Maybe its good that I don't watch any
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259 more TV. But a little bit of me worries that this is just another sign
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260 of the steadily increasing alianation of the Haves and the Have nots, the
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261 educated and the illiterate(Hope I spelled that right. :-), and the future
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262 and the past.
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263
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264 An Astral Dreamer(All in all, its just another rant in the WALL)
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265 &*&*&*&*'s
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266
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020=Usr:9 Pamela Coleman 06/17/91 23:25 Msg:6200 Call:35610 Lines:3
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267 .........................................................................
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268 Just skating 'round the edges... as usual... safer that way.
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269 ........................................................................P
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021=Usr:267 phoenix polymorp 06/18/91 19:53 Msg:6203 Call:35625 Lines:2
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270 Why did she move without telling me?
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271 Phoenix
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022=Usr:571 Tomasz Fijak 06/21/91 09:26 Msg:6207 Call:35677 Lines:5
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272 Well today is the first day of summer .I seen the sun for 5 minutes this morn-
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273 ing .Isn't it great the rain and all. I love the rain it makes me gloomy
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274 and (un) happy . I hope it snows tomarrow . Welcome summer even if she
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275 is'nt at the door yet.the party is just barely 32 deg f. but low beware
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276 cursing summer for being late. The dog days are yet to come !
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023=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 06/22/91 14:45 Msg:6208 Call:35703 Lines:23
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277 *%_)@*%_($!)%#$^_+)+#_%*@)+_(!+$(@#_+^(#$^*_)(+_@!#$)+%^*@+_%*+_($@_+$)+_#%*+_$
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278 AD: I know your frustration with TV. I agree with most of it. I like cable
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279 because I get to see the many movies that I never get to see in the theater. I
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280 used to go out to 2-3 movies a week. When another who is no longer among the
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281 BW-us used to work at the Eastgate, I saw movies there all the time. Once
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282 again, social entropy takes its toll. I think I have only seen 2 or 3 movies
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283 in a theater this year. If it weren't for cable, I would be totally out of
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284 touch with the movies being made. I also enjoy watching older films, either
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285 seeing them again or for the first time. As far as network TV goes, I watch(ed)
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286 TP, STTNG, Late Night (I still get a laugh!) and occasionally The Tonight
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287 Show. Quantum Leap is pretty good, but it hasn't been on in awhile (at least
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288 not that I have seen). I don't get a paper so I don't get the TV listings. I
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289 find myself listening to more and more music. I just bought a new car stereo
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290 with a CD player and I haven't even tuned any PDX stations in yet. sigh...
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291 We are becoming pop-culture hermits, at least as far as television goes :-)
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292 A disappointing thing about life and growing up and old. We have less and
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293 less time to do the things that we really enjoy. Maybe I am being too
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294 presumptuous: The "we" should be "I". I don't get as many chances to simply
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295 enjoy things as much as I used to. Life can be like a vicious cycle, consuming
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296 more and more time and energy for the task of getting to the next level
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297 of consumption. Oh oh, philosophy alert. Better hang it up for now...
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298 *$%)@#*%_)@#*%_)*$!_)#*%_)!*$%_ L'homme sans Parity *$_)*$@$*(_)~#(_)$*!_)$*~$^
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299
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024=Usr:70 Kurfur Redlig 06/23/91 16:11 Msg:6209 Call:35711 Lines:2
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300 Now entering Super Lurk Mode.
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301
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025=Usr:267 phoenix polymorp 06/23/91 17:08 Msg:6210 Call:35712 Lines:1
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302 >>>>>PHOENIXLURK>>>>>
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026=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/25/91 06:56 Msg:6213 Call:35739 Lines:6
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303 &*&*&*&*'s
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304 just lurking.
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305
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306 An Astral Dreamer (5 more lines added)
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307 &*&*&*&*'s
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308
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027=Usr:70 Kurfur Redlig 06/25/91 11:43 Msg:6214 Call:35743 Lines:5
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309 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Just Lurking Byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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310
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311 There is no message, only lurk.
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312
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313 KKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | kruL sdrawkcaBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
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028=Usr:121 Hamfred Gammidge 06/25/91 11:48 Msg:6215 Call:35744 Lines:7
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314
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315 This is a test of the Emergency Lurking Network. This is only a test...
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316
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317 LURK LURK LURK LURK LURK LURK LURK LURK LURK LURK LURK LURK LURK LURK LURK
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318
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319 Had this been an actual lurk, the preceeding line would not have been followed
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320 by any message. This concludes this test of the Emergency Lurking Network.
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029=Usr:322 Stray Cat 06/26/91 10:31 Msg:6217 Call:35764 Lines:8
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321
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322 =========================An Pythian Games Continue ================
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323
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324 And it's either one way or the oth. But Wait said the Chariot driver
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325 can never answers the questions of thHP.
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326
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327 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@And thth!
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328
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030=Usr:121 Hamfred Gammidge 06/26/91 22:23 Msg:6218 Call:35768 Lines:2
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329 Meta-Lurk
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330
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031=Usr:31 The Doctor 06/27/91 14:07 Msg:6219 Call:35774 Lines:7
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331 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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332 My, my, my....I think I finally got the time circuits functioning properly.
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333 Now, by the readings this should be 1989 and it should be as if I never
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334 left.....What!?! This isn't the same Backwater I knew....What's that K-9?
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335 It's 1991? Well, of course it is! I knew that! Things really have
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336 changed.....yet stayed the same.......
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337 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????? The Doctor
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032=Usr:549 alan kennedy 06/28/91 21:43 Msg:6220 Call:35801 Lines:3
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338 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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339 Doctor- who?
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340 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||grizzly||||||||||||||||||||||
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033=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/30/91 12:08 Msg:6222 Call:35821 Lines:9
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341 &*&*&*&*'s
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342 all logged in, and nothing much to say.
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343
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344 In fact, nothig at all.
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345
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346 An Astral Dreamer (On an non ansi terminal)
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347 &*&*&*&*'s
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348
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349
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034=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 06/30/91 19:42 Msg:6223 Call:35823 Lines:4
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350 *%_)*%_)(!#$()@#%*%&*^_)#%*_)!($()_)~#(_%*@_%^*@#%*@#)(%#()_#($(()$$*#@_)$@
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351 AD: Is that all you have to say??? :-) Must be TP withdrawl...
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352 *_$%@#*%_)@#%(_)!@(%$_)!@#*% L'homme sans Parity *%#_*%_)(_$(_$*_!#%&*_)$*()
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353
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035=Usr:578 M. Bell 07/02/91 11:13 Msg:6225 Call:35857 Lines:6
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354 ------------------------
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355 Well, well. Backwater still lives! Nice to see that some things do stay
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356 the same. :-)
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357
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358 M.
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359 ------------------------
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036=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/03/91 10:37 Msg:6226 Call:35865 Lines:10
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360 &*&*&*&*'s
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361 Not much Twin Peaks withdrawel here actually. What with all the
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362 hiatusing ABS subjected it to, I was able to withdraw relativly
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363 safely. :-)
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364
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365 Just havn't had much to say. Oh well, I'm going to be out of town for a
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366 few days, maybe my mind will start working again.
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367
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368 mke
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369 &*&*&*&*'s
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037=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 07/04/91 12:31 Msg:6227 Call:35877 Lines:42
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370 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
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371
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372 Gracious! The Backwater is still alive and lurking! Will wonders never cease/
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373
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374 I'm just barely functioning on a seven year-old modem that literally needs
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375 tape and bailing wire and a monitor that won't show me what I've typed... but
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376 I'm here... Isn't paying for College a dream and a half?
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377
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378 Astral Dreamer: *Twin Peaks* withdrawal shouldn't be too rough on you.
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379 ACCESS (tm) GUIDES just did a TP guide book with some data on what we saw in
|
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380 the season finale (and I do mean finale) and Pocket has committed to doing
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381 more 'literature' in the future by at least four more books/diaries/whatever.
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382 And there's always the bubble-gum cards if you're really hard-up for it... :)
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383
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384 On another note, what does everyone think of the singular BEST and WORST
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385 film of the summer, *Terminator 2: Judgement Day*?
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386
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387 *****Paradoxes*****... -Grrrrrr!- Perhaps someone should go back in time
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388 to prevent Cameron from writing the ening to T2 the way he did.
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389
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390 Still, all is not lost for those die-hard 'Doom & Gloom' types such as
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391 myself who actually LIKED the idea of the timeline staying the way it is.
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392 All SKYNET has to do is send another T-1000 back to take the placeof the
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393 now-dead professor, who suddenly won't NEED the Terminator parts to build
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394 the supercomputer.
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395
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396 I think it would be most interesting if it turned out that the T-1000 didn't
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397 die, after all. Once it cools, it could end up being the driving force
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398 that makes sure SKYNET comes to life. In fact, it might even turn out that
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399 T-1000 is the actual sentience that BECOMES SKYNET eventually.
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400
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401 It'd be a twist, I think.
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402
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403 Your thoughts on the subject? You don't actually LIKE the idea of changing the
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404 chronology like Sarah thinks she did, do you?
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405
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406 Nice to see Pyrrixall still functioning. Now all we have to do iis sweep up...
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407
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408 #Commence Purification Program (1) on your signal, Commander Zephyr...#
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409
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410 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====Support ... Well, Me!::::====
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411
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038=Usr:579 Jason McCallum 07/04/91 16:39 Msg:6228 Call:35880 Lines:3
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412 To sysop
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413
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414 What exactly is here?
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039=Usr:70 Kurfur Redlig 07/07/91 14:54 Msg:6230 Call:35914 Lines:6
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415 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | I gotta get a new border.............
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416
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417 Yah know, for this board to have a user list with 579 users, it sure seems
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418 do have a small number who actually post.
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419
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420 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | New border anyone???????????????????????
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040=Usr:549 alan kennedy 07/08/91 08:47 Msg:6231 Call:35919 Lines:1
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421 LUrkINg CaN MaKE YOu CraZy
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041=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/09/91 07:35 Msg:6232 Call:35944 Lines:6
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422 &*&*&*&*'s
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423 My BBS is back. Call 2288506. Full time, 300-2400 baud.
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424
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425 An Astral Dreamer
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426 &*&*&*&*'s
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427
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042=Usr:322 Stray Cat 07/11/91 16:43 Msg:6233 Call:35986 Lines:38
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428
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429 Geesh, WILL IT **EVER** end???? Is it even POSSIBLE we'll now have new and
|
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430 additional witch hunts at PPS? The morning paper seems to indicate the Sch
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431 Board NOW wats to go after all those "undesirable/unit" PPS teachers. Wonder
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432 if they'll use Eval. Dept. "records -- the ones PAT stated on cable (with
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433 Mr. Rieke present) ABSOLUTELY COULDN'T be used for making those kinds of
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434 decisions -- or whether they'll just turn the entire district over to
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435 free-for-all gang warfare, with administrators v teachers/teachers v
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436 teachers/parents v teachers, administrations, schools/parents v parents/
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437 schools v school/dists. v dists/dists v state, etc. We can only hope PAT
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438 isn't as depraved as the classified staff's union seemed to be.
|
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439
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440 In "reality" (in any really exists), this sounds like just another Board
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441 attempt to glaze over NOT ONLY 1) taxpayer reaction to the recent insulting
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442 statements by certain administrators (we're all idiots, you know) that
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443 current reports criticizing their performance wa actually praising them
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444 because a) not only were they already doing what was recommended but that
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445 b) it was all they COULD do within state guidelines BUT 2) the already
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446 long-standing administrative problems that have plagued tis "monster boy"
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447 police state originally set up previous to Dr. Prophet's arrival (with the
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448 help of such long-time Board members as "to-be-"elected"-this-evening"
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449 new Board Chairman "Joe" Rieke [is former board member Mary Rieke, who
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450 has a "school" named after her, related or WHAT???] and designed to keep
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451 employees and the public in a state of perpetual mystification. Like this
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452 city really needs MORE war zones ... and students ADDITIONAL role models
|
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453 for gang warfare.
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454
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455 And it's funny ... I don't recall "reports" of the report issued by the
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456 PPS-appointed/(paid?) Stife Commitee stating there WAS a problems with
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457 district TEACHERS. They did, however, cite problems with central
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458 administration. So why isn't THAT problem resolved before teacher witch
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459 hunts are instituted? Now *I* happen to tink (although I prefer to bypass
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460 the brain whenever possible) that
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461
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462 1) IF teachers had administrators who ENCOURAGED them to work together
|
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463 rather than isolating them in fraagmented/alientated groups/gangs; AND
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464
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465 2) If teachers had adminstrators that didn't perpetuate
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043=Usr:322 Stray Cat 07/11/91 17:00 Msg:6234 Call:35987 Lines:51
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466
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467 a) the use of mandated ILLOGICAL/IRRATIONAL ... <-- I know, I know
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468 ... these terms refer strictly to hysterical women (worse terms
|
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469 if you happen to be middle-aged) **NOT** wealthy white males; OR
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470
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471 b) the unfair, inconsistent management tactics designed to conceal
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472 the real causes of te resulting messes from the confused chaos
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473 necessitated by the need for persistent mystification to maintain
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474 "order"
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475
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476 the ENTIRE STAFF might be able to function better and might actually
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477 find they LIKE each other!
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478
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479 But since school is out for the summer and the Board will probably also
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480 take a couple of months off, why don't we all get some activist practice
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481 by participating in the investigation/scrutinization of tese same sorts
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482 of tactics being used by the "monster boy mafias/networked Athenahoods"
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483 at the City of Portland who will, if you have enough money or prove other-
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484 wise useful, will gladly start/maintain for long periods a civil war and
|
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485 victimize the "chosen" from in your neighborhood (and TRY to get a lawyer
|
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486 if your "chosen and aren't a billionaire ... an eye-opening experience,
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487 let me warn you) ... just ANOTHER group we "pay" to abuse us to we can,
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488 i frustration then ager, turn in around to self-abuse then abuse of others
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489 ... generally anyone weaker, sicker, poorer, lowlier or more undesirable/
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490 unfit bur primarily women/wifes/full-time-working-mothers/slaves (who
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491 traditionally work insanely hard in hectic environments, earn shamefully
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492 littlen then retreat to tiny "castles" for the evening to another
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493 full-time underrated/unappreciated job), CHILDREN, and the handicapped
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494 and elderly.
|
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495
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496 But if that's not enough abuse, may you ca arrange to PAY your union
|
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497 (like I was requied to do) to blatantly harrass and humiliate you. A
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498 good summer project for PPS teachers, in all that spare time too many
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499 bureaucrats think is unnecessary and SOME misinformed taxpayers also
|
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500 seem to resent, might be to find all the loopholes in your contract before
|
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501 a new, possibly even WORSE one is signed in the fall ... if it's anything
|
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502 likek the old classified staff's contract it's been PACKED with
|
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503 madeningly insulting, blairing betrayals.
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504
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505 Overall, I think the questions we need to be asking ouselves now is how
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506 much more "control" over our quality of life we are willing to confer to
|
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507 these gangster grops and how much more insultingly abuse we are going to
|
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508 allow them to get??? If things don't start improving shortly, who knows,
|
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509 maybe some time soon our young street gangsters/gansterettes will finally
|
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510 deduce how ridiculous it is to be taking their frustrations out on each
|
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511 other (and anybody forced to reside in those already deliberately mained
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512 neighborhoods) and stat targeting the REAL troublemakers. I'm afraid the
|
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513 bread and circus brainwash can't maintain this insanity too much longer;
|
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514 the "bread" is runing and andn slave labor is tiring of the zoo reality/
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515 mentality.
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516
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044=Usr:70 Kurfur Redlig 07/11/91 20:17 Msg:6235 Call:35990 Lines:34
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517 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Aint America Grand?????????????????
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518
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519 Whaddya expect from a country that spends more of the taxpayer's hard
|
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520 earned dollars on its military than on its system of public education?
|
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521 While we're so worried about the rising price of oil and the affairs of
|
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522 the Middle East, we've completely forgotten that it is the intelligence
|
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523 of our people that gives us an edge over other nations. Yankee know-how
|
||
524 has become completely forgotten. For the first time in the history of this
|
||
525 nation, a generation isn't going to exceed its predecessors in intellect.
|
||
526 I find that rather disturbing. The war in the gulf proved that ultra-tech
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527 is militarily viable. However, no matter how much we spend on the
|
||
528 military, we'll still lose the ultratech edge if we haven't t know-wot
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529 to improve it over that of our adversaries.
|
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530 I suppose, though, that this problem is not just the government's
|
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531 fault. I guess a lot of it has to do with the allready high level of
|
||
532 technical advancement in this country. We no longer truly value
|
||
533 intellect for its own sake. From my personal observations, people today
|
||
534 don't want to expend the effort to learn. Americans feel that it isn't
|
||
535 important for them to know how things work, just what buttons to press
|
||
536 in order to get it to work. I am just glad I'm not one of them. I
|
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537 believe that knowledge is power. If I know why and how something works,
|
||
538 it gives me an advantage over those who don't and don't feel any
|
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539 inclination to learn. This is why I respect, though I *DON'T* approve,
|
||
540 of hackers, crackers, virus writers, and fone phreaks. They, at least,
|
||
541 have the drive to learn, and to put their knowledge to a use (albeit
|
||
542 a distasteful and wasteful one). This puts them at a plave above the
|
||
543 common chattel that they victimize, and who haven't the intellect to
|
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544 stop them. It is true that your average anarchist is more intelligent
|
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545 than your average John Q. Public.
|
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546 I ramble though. I also seriously doubt that anyone here even read what
|
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547 I just wrote, but I needed to write it for my own sake, not the reader's.
|
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548 (Though if the reader profits from the reading, then that is good too.)
|
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549
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550 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Rebel without a clue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
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045=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/12/91 06:41 Msg:6236 Call:35992 Lines:30
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551 &*&*&*&*'s
|
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552 Kurfur, I read what you said.
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553
|
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554 On the subject of evaluation department records being used to evaluate
|
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555 teachers. That would be a bad thing. A very bad thing. (Note this is all
|
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556 my opinion, and should not be in anyway taken to have anything to do with
|
||
557 anybody who has real power, which I most certainly do NOT. Heck, I don't
|
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558 even really know whats going on directly.)
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559
|
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560 High stakes testing (Which is what evaluationg teachers through test
|
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561 performance.) Is a bad thing. It makes them hostile towards the test,
|
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562 encourages them to teach to the test, and thus undermines greatly the
|
||
563 usefullness of the test.
|
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564
|
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565 Please note that in the past, it has been district policy not to do this
|
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566 sort of thing (Note however that I have heard rumours of it going on. )
|
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567
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568 The biggest failing of the Research and Evaluation departments of PPS in
|
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569 my opinion has been our inability to educate people as to the proper use
|
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570 of our data. Teachers are not required to take even one class on test
|
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571 theory before getting their certificate in this state (And don't they
|
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572 spend a good deal of time creating and giving their own tests?) Many
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573 administrators have the same problem. This leads to abuse and
|
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574 misunderstanding.
|
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575
|
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576 Time for me to get to work. Maybe I'll write more later.
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577
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578 An Astral Dreamer
|
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579 &*&*&*&*'s
|
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580
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046=Usr:322 Stray Cat 07/12/91 07:32 Msg:6237 Call:35993 Lines:4
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581
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582 Gag order'back in place???? <grin>
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583
|
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584 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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047=Usr:322 Stray Cat 07/12/91 07:53 Msg:6238 Call:35994 Lines:17
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585 Isn't anybody else sick of the wthe way the Frank Gable case is being
|
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586 publicly conducted, or does everybody just get weird vicarious thrills from
|
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587 it. The more we let things like this go by, the worse this society is going
|
||
588 to get. Hope you all have your day with the likes of those psychiatriest,
|
||
589 "monster boys" who are allowed to say about anythings they please. Per-
|
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590 sonally, I think they're jealous Mr. Gable cn attract such intelligent, good
|
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591 looking women.
|
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592
|
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593 And it seems the Naitos are at it again. Got a good glimps from PJ on just
|
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594 how the whole crime ring operates. Metro gets a bid to refurbish Bill Scott's
|
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595 building that's 2-1/2 times what they say they can afford ... then they get the
|
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596 Naitos to crunch that number down to, I bet, just under two times as much and
|
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597 consider it a fabulous "deal." I would imagine APP and 1st Interstate have
|
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598 alot to say about it too! SOS.
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599
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600 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~The Mystification Continues~~~~~~~~~~
|
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601
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048=Usr:322 Stray Cat 07/12/91 09:10 Msg:6239 Call:35995 Lines:17
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602
|
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603 If Mr. Naito and Mr. Scott are as civic-minded as they like to make themselves
|
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604 out as, why don't they forget about glitzy new offices for Metro in the Sears
|
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605 building and donate the money towards making Martin Luther King Blvd. next
|
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606 year's Street of Dreams. Or at the least, since Mr. Scott has shown such
|
||
607 concern about the school district having served on Board and all, being one
|
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608 of those who voted to fire Dr. Blanchard who died shortly thereafter but who
|
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609 left the person they knew damn well RAN the district there (a move made just
|
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610 to make it look like they were doing SOMETHING about the problems, why don't
|
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611 they renovate it for the school district offices. Administrative offices are
|
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612 scattered all around the city and there's currently little or very inconven-
|
||
613 ient parking at the building they rent right now and it becomes very frustra-
|
||
614 ting for employees who have to attend meetings there ... especially teachers
|
||
615 who have very little time out of class but are required to large segments
|
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616 of time hunting a parking space just to attend a meeting. It also makes
|
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617 for poor communication between administrative offices.
|
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618
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049=Usr:583 Grim Reaper 07/12/91 12:55 Msg:6240 Call:35999 Lines:29
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619 DEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEADEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATH
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620
|
||
621 Hello, one and all. My name is Grim Reaper, and I doubt any of you know me. I
|
||
622 am new to the Portland BBS scene, however I am veteran in Seattle (known then
|
||
623 as Zaphod Beeblebrox). From<- From what I can tell, you are in need of a good
|
||
624 story, nad I believe that I have one for you
|
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625
|
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626 Here we go.
|
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627
|
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628 <- Diana walked around the tall structure. The imoo<- i<- imposing stone tow
|
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629 towere <- tower stood well over a hundred feet tall, and s<- as far as she coul
|
||
630 d tell, it had no door.
|
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631 She naturally assumed somehow that a door would be in evidence, but when you de
|
||
632 al wih<- aith a <- with a magician, who can tell. A deep rumbling in the sky a
|
||
633 bove her caused her to look about in concern, but it was only a storm, not the
|
||
634 wizard returning. She naturally assumed that he would be pissed off about this
|
||
635 pesky<- pesky woman lurking about his home.
|
||
636 <- She looked down at the shining object in her hand. It was the shape of an
|
||
637 egg, with a little cur<- crusifix on top, and it was about 8 inches long.
|
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638 <- The mad who had given it to her (the man, not the mad), had said the<- that
|
||
639 she mustcount to three then throw the egg (which he had called a Holy Hand Gren
|
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640 ade) and then run away very fast. Diana had rather been counting on a door to
|
||
641 thro<- thrw it into, but perhaps that high window would do.
|
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642 She had a girevance with this magia<- magician, as he had recently ...
|
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643
|
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644 Cont<- Continue at will,
|
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645 Grim Reaper
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646
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647 DEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEARHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATH
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050=Usr:322 Stray Cat 07/13/91 11:11 Msg:6241 Call:36007 Lines:11
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648
|
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649 Jeesh, makes you wanna read those "other" entries on the board ... but think
|
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650 I'll wait awhile or else I might lose my nerve.
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651
|
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652 But think I will write a letter to the editors of some Baltimore newspapers
|
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653 regarding the "whole" story behind the APP and see if that's actually the
|
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654 way they want to run their city. Reminds me of PPS's self-generate
|
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655 reports on their international successess, especially with regard to their
|
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656 uses of their testing "program."
|
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657
|
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658 .
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051=Usr:322 Stray Cat 07/13/91 13:05 Msg:6242 Call:36009 Lines:12
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659 &^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^
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660
|
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661 Does anybody know where Randi Nalon Posts came from anyway. It just
|
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662 occurs to me she arrived just abot the same time the new director of
|
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663 personnel McElroy brought in from out of state after Supt. Blanchard
|
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664 was fired. Randi's from out of state, too, and for some reason never
|
||
665 really seemed like just a "secretary."
|
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666
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667 This was all about time time PFT replaced PAT representation.
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668
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669 ^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&
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670
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052=Usr:322 Stray Cat 07/13/91 21:12 Msg:6243 Call:36013 Lines:6
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671
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672 Yeah, Baltimore's interesting in competing with us to become one of the
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673 top 10 crime cities in the nation and they want to know the secret of
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674 retaining political control through maintaining a high crime rate (and
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675 homeless rate, too ... they make the us "poor" people feel privileged).
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676
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053=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/13/91 22:29 Msg:6244 Call:36015 Lines:23
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677 &*&*&*&*'s
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678 Sigh, slaming the testin program again. I suppose the fact that IS highly
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679 respected throughout the world isn't in any way important. I suppose the
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680 fact that it is bassed in something as concrete as statistics and calculas
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681 lends it zero validity. I suppose the fact that it allows teachers to
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682 track a students progress over time, guage it against other students, etc.
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683 is of no relavence?
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684
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685 I could go on. Suffice it to say that I find your constant Goble like
|
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686 slaming of PPS to be both boring and non productive. How about some
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687 solid documented facts? Do you even have clue one as to what the testing
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688 program is desingned to do? Can you describe to me what a scale is?
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689 How change over time is measured? What an adaptive test is?
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690
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691 Its not the testing program that most people object to, Its their ignorent
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692 and misinformed perception of it that they have the problem with.
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693
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694 As ussual, I speak only for myself.
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695
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696 An Astral Dreamer
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697 &*&*&*&*'s
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698
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699@first last
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054=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 07/14/91 11:57 Msg:6245 Call:36021 Lines:5
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700 *%_#*)%@)*_)#*(_)~!(#(_)_)_)*_)@*_)($#@(%$!+@)$+!_@)$+_@*_)*%!($_+!@($+_*%_)%@
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701 voyeur: Do you still lurk around these here parts? I was in your neighborhood
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702 yesterday, and saw your car parked in the garage...
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703 *)$#*@!_$)(*_)*$_#&%^_)($_)_)!$*$ L'homme sans Parity *_)*($_)(_)($*$)*($()$(!
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704
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055=Usr:322 Stray Cat 07/15/91 10:51 Msg:6246 Call:36039 Lines:4
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705
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706 I was hoping not to have to stoop so low as to revert to Sarah Newhall
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707 stories just to prove a point ...
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708
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056=Usr:549 alan kennedy 07/15/91 22:52 Msg:6247 Call:36058 Lines:10
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709 Re>School systems and the government-
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710 What do you expect of a business which hasn't changed its policies in two
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711 hundred years.
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712
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713 To Grim Reaper,
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714 You wouldn't happen to know Portland BBSer Phil Beeble would you? He has been
|
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715 around for about four or five years.
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716
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717 The Grizzly
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718
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057=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/16/91 22:51 Msg:6249 Call:36070 Lines:7
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719 &*&*&*&*'s
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720 Another lurk.
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721
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722 (More or less.)
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723 An Astral Dreamer
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724 &*&*&*&*'s
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725
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058=Usr:583 Grim Reaper 07/17/91 00:43 Msg:6250 Call:36071 Lines:22
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726 DEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATH... etc.
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727
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728 well, I don't know of anyone named Phil Beeble, but for a while I was
|
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729 Zaphod Beeblebrox.... -=<)ZB(>=- But that was a long time ago (for me)
|
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730 Here in Portland I'm very new. I've actually been living here for
|
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731 two years, but just got seriously into my modem about a week ago.
|
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732 I had dabbled a bit before, but nothing serious...
|
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733
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734 all in all, I'm not real wired (not weird) about this whole thing, as I g
|
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735 get to go off to Germany for a year and enjoy a little personal abuse
|
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736 there (school), which will do nothing for my newly rediscovered BBS addiction
|
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737
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738 I do know someone (indirectly of course) named Merciless Quimby Snatch who
|
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739 apparently decided to show up in Seattle (my old home) on the BBS's about
|
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740 the time I left... and he's incredibly annoying from what I've heard.
|
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741 Hmmmmmm... and now for something, completely different,
|
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742
|
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743 this is how you really spell Robert... Reaughbherrrhyt and Freddy...
|
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744 Phreadddhie and of course Macintosh... Nastyviralshitfromanasinine-
|
||
745 companywithgangreneofthehead I love my new spelling system.
|
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746
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747 DEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATH you get the idea...
|
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059=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 07/17/91 11:02 Msg:6251 Call:36077 Lines:14
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748 :::::=====:::::=====Zephyrlurk
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749 THERE IS NO FUTURE IN PROGRESS...
|
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750
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751 Read it any way you like.
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752
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753
|
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754 And, as long as we're throwing random debates out onto the floor, does anyone
|
||
755 out there have even the most remote thought on the Great and Powerful OCA (pay
|
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756 no attention to the bigot behind the sheet) and their Amazing Petition?
|
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757
|
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758 Please excuse the line noise.
|
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759
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760 :::::=====:::::=====Zephyrlurk-END
|
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761
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060=Usr:322 Stray Cat 07/19/91 20:07 Msg:6256 Call:36115 Lines:10
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762
|
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763 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
|
||
764 *)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)
|
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765
|
||
766 I see Ruth Scott is no longer president or chairman of the APP. They just
|
||
767 held election. They got a high-powered land developer now! These city
|
||
768 slickers sure on cozy ... she's Bill Scott's wife.
|
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769
|
||
770 *(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)]
|
||
771 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
|
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061=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 07/21/91 21:14 Msg:6257 Call:36120 Lines:5
|
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772 After a system failure, bwii seems to be back up with
|
||
773 little worse for wear. I didn`t find anything specifically
|
||
774 wrong, but it just would not boot. So I just replaced the
|
||
775 disks and crossed my fingers.
|
||
776 ************************** CM ***********************************
|
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062=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/21/91 21:25 Msg:6258 Call:36121 Lines:61
|
||
777 &*&*&*&*'s
|
||
778 Good to see it back. Seems to me that I havn't babled on here for awhile.
|
||
779
|
||
780 Hard to think of things to talk about. I think that may be one of our
|
||
781 biggest problems in this day and age. We are all so used to being
|
||
782 overwhelmed by the media machine, that we have problems forming long
|
||
783 lasting relationships.
|
||
784
|
||
785 What I mean by this, is that the media provides us with tons of input.
|
||
786 Ignoring for a moment the quality of this input, lets consider the
|
||
787 implications this has. We are used to being able to turn on the
|
||
788 TV, or the radio, or go to the movies. There we are entertained. It
|
||
789 seems safe to assume that the quality of the entertainment provided
|
||
790 must atleast be tolerable, since we keep going back. Now, how many
|
||
791 people are there keeping this media machine going? Hundreds of
|
||
792 thousends atleast.
|
||
793
|
||
794 So, what does this have to do with relationships? (Relationships
|
||
795 is defined here as meaning human interaction, in case anybody is
|
||
796 confused.) Have you ever noticed that the longer you have known
|
||
797 a person, the less you have to say to them? Until you meet maybe
|
||
798 two or three times a year, say hello, chat for an hour or so, and
|
||
799 go your seperate ways? You may have been the best of friends,
|
||
800 yet you hardly ever see each other. Why? I believe it is because
|
||
801 we interact for the most part to entertain, or be entertained.
|
||
802
|
||
803 Cynical? Perhaps. Given time, even the best of stories can become
|
||
804 boring. And the interactive stories that we right as our lives are
|
||
805 I believe no different. Why should they be. All is human experiance.
|
||
806 Perhaps this is what Shakespere meant when he said "All the world is
|
||
807 a stage..." (Gosh, I hope it was Shakespere.)
|
||
808
|
||
809 And so we run franticly from character to character, trying desperatly
|
||
810 to gain the perfect role, to play the perfect part, to be the central
|
||
811 player. We all live with our own tradgadies, comodys and adventures.
|
||
812 But is the play the true meaning? I think not.
|
||
813
|
||
814 I believe that it is the play that distracts us. Draws us in, and
|
||
815 all to ofteen, destroys us. The roles we choose for ourselves are
|
||
816 to ofteen overly constrained, and without usefull purpose. It is
|
||
817 not unusual for the simple formation of a goal to strive for to
|
||
818 be beyond us. And even when the goal is invisioned, it is seldom
|
||
819 atained.
|
||
820
|
||
821 Why then do we play the game? Is it because we must? Are we all part
|
||
822 of some cosmic machine? Biological parts in a rather simplistic and
|
||
823 stuborn Neural Net? Are we meerly part of some huge soap opera,
|
||
824 conceived of and set in motion by creatures we could not begin to
|
||
825 comprehend?
|
||
826
|
||
827 I do not believe it matters. If we must play the game, then let us
|
||
828 choose for ourselves roles which are not standard. Let us find ways
|
||
829 to play between the rules, and make our own. Let us know that we have
|
||
830 lived, and in living shaped the landscape around us in a positive way.
|
||
831
|
||
832 And, perhaps by being different, by creating, we will not loose each
|
||
833 other.
|
||
834
|
||
835 An Astral Dreamer (Never could be this verbose in English classes.)
|
||
836 &*&*&*&*'s
|
||
837
|
||
063=Usr:322 Stray Cat 07/22/91 04:38 Msg:6259 Call:36125 Lines:22
|
||
838
|
||
839
|
||
840 Is anybody else screaming about the raised sewer charges and the new fascist
|
||
841 stream cleanup program that those raised charges will support? They have
|
||
842 grants for Fanno and Johnson Creeks where the wealthy can have the city come
|
||
843 in and place beautiful large rocks and probably "native plants" and place
|
||
844 park benches in their probably fenced in yards. Then they're gonna required
|
||
845 the rest of creek residents to do the same ... on their own money (not the
|
||
846 plants or benches, of course).
|
||
847
|
||
848 Then they're going to encourge neighbors to rat on each other if they don't
|
||
849 feel the creek is being maintained well enough. THey'll probably start
|
||
850 giving "tickets" (like the OLCC) and then the wealthy will sue the less wealthy
|
||
851 for damage to what the city did for them free by those whohave neither the
|
||
852 time nor money to "redo" their creek area into something out of some fancy
|
||
853 garden architectural magazine.
|
||
854
|
||
855
|
||
856 Paranoid, you say? You bet!!! I've been through it with the city and
|
||
857 neighbors about a creek. I ought to write a book about the maneuvers
|
||
858 I experience in this regard.
|
||
859
|
||
064=Usr:322 Stray Cat 07/22/91 04:52 Msg:6260 Call:36126 Lines:6
|
||
860
|
||
861 And don't you resent being "primed" for weeks by touching little stream
|
||
862 cleanup segments just previous to the City's Environmental Services sending
|
||
863 out their 4-page brochure? In hindsight the "turd" story was probably just
|
||
864 a forerunner to this campaign.
|
||
865
|
||
065=Usr:322 Stray Cat 07/22/91 04:56 Msg:6261 Call:36127 Lines:17
|
||
866
|
||
867 @_)(#$*%^&@#$&@_)($*^!#%(@$(*%@(@&#$^%#_!#_!(_#@%^%@$(@++!@#*^$@&_$+!(#^%#$@!
|
||
868
|
||
869 Huh. Maybe I can be the first to report a crime in this regard. THe city
|
||
870 has NEVER maintained the creek area in the right away, even after they
|
||
871 insisted I donate 150
|
||
872 feet of my front yard to construct a ditch in my creek beek 150' long,
|
||
873 6-8feet deep, and 15' across ... for which I am now liable. This was done
|
||
874 to drain a 40-house development not even on the creek. And for this, I
|
||
875 got absolutely no compensation (the deed-holder was a lawyer and the ex-
|
||
876 developer an ex-professional football player).
|
||
877
|
||
878 I tried to get two lawyers to help me at the time, but you know how THOSE
|
||
879 things go. I never stood a chance.
|
||
880
|
||
881 !_)(*!#@^&)^#)$_@($_!#^%@_*#$_(+!)(+@#!*^%(^%!#!$+_@)(#$&!&#^%^&_(@#$_!%
|
||
882
|
||
066=Usr:578 M. Bell 07/22/91 12:33 Msg:6262 Call:36139 Lines:7
|
||
883 ---
|
||
884 Unless they (the city) had a legal document requiring you to dig the ditch,
|
||
885 you should have told them to piss off. Maybe you should fill it back in and
|
||
886 see what they do. . .
|
||
887
|
||
888 M.
|
||
889 ---
|
||
067=Usr:322 Stray Cat 07/22/91 18:18 Msg:6263 Call:36147 Lines:1
|
||
890
|
||
068=Usr:322 Stray Cat 07/22/91 23:49 Msg:6264 Call:36153 Lines:25
|
||
891
|
||
892 **************************************************************************
|
||
893
|
||
894 This sewer/storm drain issue IS interesting. When Earl Blumenauer's
|
||
895 department repaved part of Barbur Blvd. near the AM/PM market, they
|
||
896 completely remove the storm drain ... paved right over it. And in the
|
||
897 eyesore they've created across the street from it, there was whole stacks
|
||
898 of old drains. Seemed like a deliberate attempt to create problems for
|
||
899 the neighborhood who had to deal with that water that had nowhere to go.
|
||
900 A huge lack was created for a year at the north corner of the AM/PM block
|
||
901 and they finally came and took care of that problem. I think they just
|
||
902 resloped the road so the water would stay on the street and continue on
|
||
903 downhill. I wonder if they filled it the ditch, too. I'll have to check
|
||
904 tomorrow.
|
||
905
|
||
906 And it seems funny they're just NOW posting warning signs about sewage
|
||
907 going into the Willamette from downtown ... I'm sure they wouldn't be
|
||
908 doing that if they HADN'T of gotten the rate hike. I thought these
|
||
909 kinds of projects used to be taken up under local improvement districts.
|
||
910 Just having fuzzy notions of such things, it would seem to me that the
|
||
911 downtown merchants of the APP should have been charged for this. But of
|
||
912 course they have their own rate system down there.
|
||
913
|
||
914 ***************************************************************************
|
||
915
|
||
069=Usr:322 Stray Cat 07/24/91 06:40 Msg:6266 Call:36172 Lines:32
|
||
916
|
||
917 ######################################################################
|
||
918
|
||
919 I'd notice some time back First Baptist Church & Country Club, Inc.
|
||
920 has removed the benches that were placed on SW 12th and the other
|
||
921 street running by the library (sorry, don't know the sequence of
|
||
922 downtown streets) in memory of my father and paid for by my mother.
|
||
923 I thought they'd been taken in for repair but when I called the other
|
||
924 day they stated outright they were removed so the homeless wouldn't sit
|
||
925 there. I asked in you had to be of a certain income level to sit on a
|
||
926 church bench and she said they were actually SLEEPING there and defacated
|
||
927 and urinated and stuff. I inquired if they possibly contributed to
|
||
928 shelter for them elsewhere, maybe sme other location downtown, and she
|
||
929 said they FED them instead -- twice a week. Seems to me that only adds
|
||
930 to the crap ... Interesting attitudes for a church I'd say.
|
||
931
|
||
932 So I wonder what they did with the benches. Bet they went to some APP
|
||
933 location around town or maybe to the vast Ames charity estate(s).
|
||
934
|
||
935 But I find this particularly offensive because my father's family was
|
||
936 the type to take in homeless people. His brothers all worked on the
|
||
937 railroad and the one brother he had in Portland fed and houses many
|
||
938 hobo-types over the years. Not only that, but my cousin's wife spent
|
||
939 months "on the streets" of Washington DC after she'd vacationed there
|
||
940 some years back with a Swedish exchange student they'd had for a year.
|
||
941 She couldn't believe what was happening to people and was especially
|
||
942 embarrassed it was the nation's capital. She's appeared on national
|
||
943 TV, was hired by Time-Life, does national speaking tours and has written
|
||
944 a book about it.
|
||
945
|
||
946 #########################################################################
|
||
947
|
||
070=Usr:322 Stray Cat 07/24/91 09:00 Msg:6267 Call:36174 Lines:5
|
||
948
|
||
949 I know it's probably meaningless, but when I was in Forrest Rieke's
|
||
950 office the other day I overheard the secretary referring to a John
|
||
951 Hathaway. Her last name was McNamara.
|
||
952
|
||
071=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 07/24/91 10:43 Msg:6268 Call:36177 Lines:7
|
||
953 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
|
||
954
|
||
955 Hummmm... I guess the old saying that people don't worry about things that
|
||
956 don't affect them directly holds true for the Backwater.
|
||
957
|
||
958 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
|
||
959
|
||
072=Usr:322 Stray Cat 07/24/91 14:09 Msg:6269 Call:36182 Lines:6
|
||
960
|
||
961 Why is everybody acting so schocked about the Milwaukee kid eating his
|
||
962 victims? PPS has been devouring people alive for years and way too many
|
||
963 people know it and nothing's ever done. Criminals don't receive all their
|
||
964 training at home; most socialization is done by the schools.
|
||
965
|
||
073=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/25/91 14:27 Msg:6271 Call:36199 Lines:7
|
||
966 &*&*&*&*'s
|
||
967 I don't know. I think you've sunk to a new low. Do you really put petty
|
||
968 politics in the same league with murder and canibalism?
|
||
969
|
||
970 An Astral Dreamer
|
||
971 &*&*&*&*'s
|
||
972
|
||
074=Usr:602 John Bach 08/16/91 04:24 Msg:6315 Call:36585 Lines:8
|
||
973 :-)(-::)-:-)(-::-)(-::-)(-::)-::-)(-::-)(-::-)(-::-)(-::-)(-:
|
||
974
|
||
975 Howdy guys... I'm new around here... just checking things out. I believe
|
||
976 Astral dreamer knows me...
|
||
977
|
||
978 -- John B.
|
||
979
|
||
980 :-)(-::-)(-::-)(-::-)(-::-)(-::-)(-::-)(-::-)(-::-)(-::-)(-:
|
||
075=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 08/24/91 21:18 Msg:6343 Call:36721 Lines:1
|
||
981 this really is the last line on this disk.
|