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001=Usr:0 Null User 06/30/87 20:34 Msg:0 Call:0 Lines:19
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1$If you are in need of help, you need but ask...
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2$************************* INSTALLED: 30 SEP 88 ***************************
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3$Welcome to BWMS II (BackWater Message System II) Mike Day System operator
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002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 09/30/88 19:35 Msg:2425 Call:10005013 Lines:3
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20 Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom.
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21 Samuel Taylor Coleridge
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22 ************************************************************************
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003=Usr:214 The Mysterious F 09/30/88 19:42 Msg:2426 Call:10005014 Lines:16
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23 -----------------------
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24 Oh, boy! I get to be the first one. Wowie zoobers, man.
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25
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26 Signer, I realize that religion is an act of faith in many senses. But
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27 I don't understand how someone can have faith in something without a
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28 great deal of evidence showing that it is true. I happen to see evidence
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29 all around me that indicates that nothing intelligent but this stuff
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30 together. When I think logically about things, I come to the same
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31 conclusion. But I'm always open to evidence that I may have missed, or
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32 lines of reasoning that I haven't thought of. I'll admit that it's
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33 going to take one hell of an argument to get me to change my mind. But
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34 if you have that argument, I'll listen to you. (Even if you don't, I'll
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35 listen to you as long as you're reasonable.)
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36
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37 Bill & Opus in 88!
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38 ----------------------- Fred?
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004=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/30/88 20:31 Msg:2427 Call:10005015 Lines:25
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39 &*&*&*&*'s
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40 I think the problem is one of scale. I recently saw somebody give an example of
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41 a brocken watch in a dryer. It went to the effect that if you were to put a
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42 brocken watch in a dryer and let it spin it would never again be whole. At
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43 least after a few million years or so.
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44
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45 While this is probably correct it fails to address the scale of the universe.
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46 For just a moment assume that without the shadow of a doubt we are the only
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47 living intelagent life in the entire universe. Now, Given BILLIONS of years
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48 the odds of Life emerging in the known universe suddenly become very good.
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49 The possibility of even intelagent life becomes very good.
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50
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51 Note that all this assumes that it is hard/nearly impossible for life to
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52 emerge on a given planet. If it were in fact common there would be life
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53 everywere.
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54
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55 I am not saying that God does not exist, But I am saying that it does not
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56 take the existance of any sort of God to explain our being here.
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57
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58 I to await the arival of more peaple at the Inn at the crossroads! (Come on in
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59 folks, There's plenty of room for all!)
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60
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61 An Astral Dreamer.
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62 &*&*&*&*'s
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63
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005=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON 10/01/88 00:04 Msg:2428 Call:10005023 Lines:11
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64 --------------------------->OK OK NOW<-----------------------------------------
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65
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66 Let's not get into one of those Religious or Political discussions as it was
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67 bad enough last time! Start a story or something.! UUUUGH these messages about
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68 Anarchy are as boring as Religion....... What ever happened to those good
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69 short stories people used to write 2 years ago??? EH? I'll bet your asking why
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70 don't I shut up and write one. The prob is I don't have one quite yet. I'll
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71 be back..............Like who cares
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72 ------------->STIKKY<----------------------------------------------------------
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73
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74 @ NUKE THE SMURFS & DRINK BEER @
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006=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/01/88 01:23 Msg:2429 Call:10005025 Lines:13
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75 &*&*&*&*'s
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76 Ok, a short story. I'll work on it. Currently I seem to be suffering from
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77 writters block. My last bought lasted 6 years. (Some peaple probably wish it
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78 had lasted forever.) hopefully this one will me shorter.
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79
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80 Menwhile I am,
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81
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82 The wanderer at the Inn.
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83
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84 AKA
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85 An Astral Dreamer.
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86 &*&*&*&*'s
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87
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007=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 10/01/88 03:17 Msg:2430 Call:10005027 Lines:16
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88
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89 {}
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90
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91 Ok, how about apathy for a government? I finally found the word
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92 that describes what I see. And, I DIDN'T say ANARCHY, I said
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93 ANARCHISM. ANARCHY is complete chaos and disorder. ANARCHISM
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94 is simply the lack of a government. Got it straight?
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95
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96 * * *
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97
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98 "Wonderer, where is everyone? I guess we'll just have to
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99 summon them at an appropriate time...so what should we do?"
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100
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101 Hagbard Celine
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102
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103 {}
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008=Usr:322 Stray Cat 10/01/88 12:12 Msg:2431 Call:10005032 Lines:8
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104
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105 Years ago I woke up with a start, sure my house was bugged. Maybe it was
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106 the eye contact in the mirror that startled me.
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107
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108 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%What the h*ll ????!!+++++
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109
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110 . . . it has been fascinating but a little scary
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111
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009=Usr:70 Kurfur Redlig 10/01/88 12:25 Msg:2432 Call:10005033 Lines:15
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112 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | New Term Prog. Bear with Meeeeeeeeeeeeee
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113
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114 H'lo agin. I agree with Hagbard. You people (and other things) need to
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115 pay more attention.
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116
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117 Personally, I prefer having fun to discusing political theory (it doesn't
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118 make my brain hurt as much), so for now:......
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119
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120 _ /:
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121 \'o.O'
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122 =(___)=
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123 |U|
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124 | | Bill the Cat and Opus in '88!!!!!!!!!
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125
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126 KKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Politics are best left in the back yarddddddd
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010=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/01/88 12:54 Msg:2433 Call:10005034 Lines:11
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127 &*&*&*&*'s
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128 I like it Kurfur. Looks classy.
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129
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130 Hagbard, I suppose a summoning might be in order. Hopefully the Inn will be
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131 filling up RSN though so IMHO we should wait a moment or two.
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132
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133 Word Wrap?
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134
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135 An Astral Dreamer.
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136 &*&*&*&*'s
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137
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011=Usr:322 Stray Cat 10/01/88 16:05 Msg:2434 Call:10005036 Lines:23
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138@
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139@%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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140@
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141@sometimes I think maybe even my mind is too
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148 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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149 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/////////////////////////////////
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150 ****************************************************************************
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151
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152
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153 Since when are changes not allowed?????????????>???????
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154 what a pisser
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155
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156
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157 I'm in for some strong behavior modification and one of the first things to
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158 go should be this stupid bbsing.
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159
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160 I have been doing better lately . . .
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012=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL 10/01/88 18:26 Msg:2435 Call:10005041 Lines:7
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161 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@User twoeightythree, I guess#####
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162 Hmmmm.... It appears that we have a problem here: Some good 'ole users
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163 bugging others with their conversation about pahlaticks. hmmm.. I guess
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164 I agree with politics being for the back yard.. and Bill And Opus in 88...
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165
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166 Control C
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167 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@#################################
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013=Usr:603 tanya UUPC 10/01/88 20:17 Msg:2436 Call:10005045 Lines:3
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168 well, well, look who is here, ( zap them all )
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169 ---> a over cooked computer....HOT HOT....
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170
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014=Usr:4 Milchar 10/01/88 20:23 Msg:2437 Call:10005046 Lines:5
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171 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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172 A simple MilchLURK for those who know me... my other-world persona has
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173 taken up responsibilities that occupy much of his time. Seems I have missed
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174 a disk or two, mayhap three....
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175 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milch ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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015=Usr:577 George Raft 10/01/88 21:30 Msg:2438 Call:10005049 Lines:1
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176 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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016=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON 10/01/88 21:57 Msg:2439 Call:10005050 Lines:8
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177 *-- it's 5:00 pm & I'm eating frozen pizza. Taste pretty good actually. When
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178 I always eat frozen pizza my lips stick to the pepporoni and then my lips have
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179 to be surgically removed with a scalpul. Remember to vote for Fred Rogers in
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180 88 cuz he's the most likely. Tom Peterson is also a highly recommended cand-
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181 idiate. Y'know why is their only one female smurf. well adios amigos , so
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182 long..................$$--BLAH BLAH--$$(kinky sex makes the world go around--$$
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183
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184
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017=Usr:113 James Of Cassand 10/01/88 22:57 Msg:2440 Call:10005051 Lines:19
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185 !!!!!@@@@@#####$$$$$+++++)))))
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186
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187 Everybody Listen!
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188
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189 Your going to wake up tommorow and be nice to everybody you meet.
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190
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191 They will be nice to you!
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192
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193 The world will be a wonderfull place!
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194
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195 If everybody does as I say all of the above is true!
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196
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197 Is the above "True"
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198
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199 I hope it is...
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200
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201 James of Cassandra.
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202 !!!!!@@@@@#####$$$$$+++++)))))
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203
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018=Usr:577 George Raft 10/01/88 23:07 Msg:2441 Call:10005052 Lines:44
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204 >..........>.........>........>.......>......>.....>....>...>..>.>Raft
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205 "Those who live in a society must obey its laws, particularly
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206 those laws whose purpose is to provide for the protection of its
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207 citizens. You have been charged and found guilty by a jury of your
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208 peers of murder in the first degree... and a murder society finds
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209 exceptionally heinous because it was committed against a potential
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210 citizen with no knowledge or ability to defend against your
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211 aggressions. You are thereby remanded to the custody of the bailiff
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212 and are to be incarcerated until such time as your execution can be
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213 arranged. Bailiff? Court is adjourned."
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214 "All rise..." Chairs slide, feet scuffle, voices murmur, the
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215 elderly judge rises and glides swiftly from the wood paneled room.
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216 A woman sits in stunned silence at the defense table, her face
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217 frozen. She always knew intellectually that it might come to this,
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218 but still she was emotionally unprepared for what had happened.
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219 "Don't worry sweetheart, this isn't over yet," the slickness in a
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220 Brooks Brothers suit whispers in her ear, a feral gleam in his eyes,
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221 "we can wrap them up in appeals for years. This is a test case, you
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222 know. They'll let it go all the way to the Supreme Court if
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223 necessary. What an opportunity!"
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224 "Yes, what an opportunity," the woman responds in a quiet
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225 monotone. "I've always wanted to spend the rest of my life in court."
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226 "Now look here you silly bimbo! If you didn't want to wind up in
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227 jail you shouldn't have used those damn birth conrol pills! Since
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228 the perfection of cloning the laws declaring a fertilized ovum to be
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229 legally human, and thus possessing all the rights of any other
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230 citizen, have been extended to any cell grouping with the right
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231 genetic material. By killing your ovum you committed murder in the
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232 eyes of the law." Mr. GQ raises his head to look down his nose.
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233 "And in my eyes too, to tell you the truth. If it weren't that this
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234 case had so much potential for career advancement I would never have
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235 taken it when I got the call from the Legal Aid office."
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236 The bailiff, accompanied by the courthouse matron, forces the
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237 woman to her feet, a hand on each elbow. The woman makes no effort to
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238 resist.
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239 "Can I say one more thing to my lawyer before we go back?" the
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240 woman asks quietly.
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241 "Just be quick," the matron responds.
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242 The woman leans forward until her face is only two feet from
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243 her attorney's, makes an odd noise in the back of her throat, and
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244 noisily deposits a load of phlegm on his face.
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245 "There's a lot of genetic material in saliva too, creep!" she
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246 screams as she is dragged from the room.
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247 >..........>.........>........>.......>......>.....>....>...>..>.>Raft
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019=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 10/03/88 00:52 Msg:2442 Call:10005086 Lines:5
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248 ************************************************************
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249 Woah, what a downer. The ultimate conservative view point.
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250 Don't you just love men who think they have a right to tell
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251 a woman what she can do with her body?
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252 ************************************************************
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020=Usr:539 Renee Holmes 10/03/88 06:23 Msg:2443 Call:10005088 Lines:4
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253 ********************** October 3, 1988 *****************************
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254 Right on!!!
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255 -Renee-
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256 ********************************************************************
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021=Usr:71 David Shult 10/03/88 10:50 Msg:2444 Call:10005092 Lines:60
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257 696969696969
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258 Nomination for the "Ten Best Censored Stories of 1987"
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259
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260 TUNING OUT NON-IONIZING RADIATION AND PUBLIC HEALTH/SAFETY HAZARDS
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261
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262 Growing evidence that long wave non-ionizing radiation used in
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263 electromagnetic devices, microwave products, and TV/radio systems is
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264 harmful to the public's health, hazardous to effective public safety
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265 systems, and threatening to military security went largely unreported
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266 by America's media in 1987. Also underreported were the related
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267 issues of the Environmental Protection Agency's shut-down of its
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268 funded programs to study non-ionizing radiation in light of a 1989
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269 deadline to establish safety standards for public exposure to radio
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270 frequencies, and, the lawsuit brought against the Reagan
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271 administration by a coalition of plaintiffs who charge that the
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272 administration has violated the National Enviromental Policy act by
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273 not adequately protecting the public and environment from the "Hazard
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274 of Electromagnetic Radiation to Ordnance" (HERO).
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275 Studies that suggest links between electromagetic fields (such a
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276 those produced by overhead power lines, broadcast towers, military
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277 hardware, hairdryers, microwave ovens, computers, TV and two-way
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278 radios, and radar), and cellular mutation, cancer, and childhood
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279 leukemia have received little attention. University of North Carolina
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280 epidemiologist David Savitz confirmed earlier reports about the
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281 apparent public health hazard. Savitz emphasized the need for furthe
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282 research and more federal funding to determine the extent of this
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283 potential health risk. Fifteen of 17 occupational studies have
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284 established links between exposure to low frequency electromagnetic
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285 fields and cancer. Despite this mounting evidence, the EPA shut down
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286 its program to study non-ionizing radiation which is supposed to set
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287 acceptable levels of exposure for humans and the environment by 1989.
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288 Meanwhile, total federal funding to study the health effects of low
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289 frequency fields has dropped from $10 million to just $2.5 million.
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290 A coalition of Pentagon watchdog organizations and individuals
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291 has brought suit against the government charging Reagan administratio
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292 officials with willful negligence in protecting the public from the
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293 HERO effect. Though the Navy and Army have been aware, for some 33
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294 years, of the hazard that electromagnetism poses to weapon systems,
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295 the Pentagon has acknowledged very little about the hazards that
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296 accidental explosions caused by various electromagnetic sources pose
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297 to public and environmental safety. The plaintiffs cite five specifi
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298 HERO related accidents, including the 1967 explosion on board the USS
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299 Forrestal which claimed 134 lives, along with a possible 25 other HER
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300 related accidents that have occurred over the past 25 k;years.
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301 Finally, in a continuing conflict related to the issue of
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302 electromagnetic radiation and its effects on public safety and health
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303 radar specialist veterans have been filing health claims, related to
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304 their exposrue to low frequency radiation, against the Veterans
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305 Administration. All claims to date have been rejected.
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306 With such a newsworthy issue as the effects of electromagnetic
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307 radiation on public health and safety so clearly being played out
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308 during 1987, the news media, for the most part, failed to tune in.
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309
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310 SOURCES: KQED-TV 9, "EXPRESS," 12/9/87, "Radiation Risk?," by
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311 David Helvarg; RECON, Vol. 10, #4, January 1988, "HERO: Deadly Game o
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312 Roulette," by Patricia Axelrod, pp 1,2,8.
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313
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314 696969696969696969
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315
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316 ]
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022=Usr:599 rich sichel 10/03/88 13:10 Msg:2445 Call:10005093 Lines:7
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317 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777
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318 Ever wonder why David Helvarg didn't even hint at the most dangerous
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319 radiation sources aimed intentionally to everyone of us?
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320 I'm referring to police's radar gun. That blatant criminal and
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321 injurious device is pointed at us everyday. But nobody ever squeaked
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322 a pip. Could David Helvarg a PIG (Police In Guise)?
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323 777777777777777777777777777rich77777777777777777
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023=Usr:562 Blank Doe 10/03/88 15:29 Msg:2446 Call:10005097 Lines:14
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324 THIS IS WORLD WATCH THREE>>>>>>>>>>
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325 Voted #1 censored stories of 1983.
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326
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327 The Government has once again manipulated the press. In this case it was the
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328 neuclear exchange between the United States of America and the Union of the
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329 Soviet Socilist Republic in October of 1983. At approximately 2:30 am on the
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330 mornig of Oct. 2nd The USSR launched an all-out neuclear attack. Upon
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331 the detection of the attack, the USA launched a counter offensive.
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332 Both the USA and USSR were vaporized. Both the governments of the US and USS
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333 successfully stopeed the story from leaking to the news media.
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334
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335 For world watch three, I'm blank doe
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336 NW0>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ww3
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337 ^b
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024=Usr:71 David Shult 10/03/88 18:09 Msg:2447 Call:10005101 Lines:71
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338 696969696969
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339 With the release of a hostage today, and the charges that George Bush may be
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340 negotiating in the release...it certainly seems that history is trying to
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341 repeat itself:
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342
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343 Nomination for the "Ten Best Censored Stories of 1987"
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344
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345 REAGAN'S 1980 "OCTOBER SURPRISE" -- ARMS FOR HOSTAGES
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346
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347 In October 1980, nothing worried the Reagan campaign as much as
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348 the possibility that the 52 hostages held by Iran might come home.
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349 A "paramilitary wing" created by Reagan's campaign staff to prevent
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350 such a possibility was largely unreported in 1987.
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351 The revelations report that then campaign manager William J.
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352 Casey headed an "October surprise" team engaging the services of both
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353 retired and active military personnel.
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354 During the course of the 1980 campaign, campaign leaders Richard
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355 Allen, Edwin Meese, and Casey became concerned, almost to the point of
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356 paranoia (according to journalists Jack Germond and Jules Witcover)
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357 that Carter would get the hostages released thereby stealing away
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358 Reagan's election momentum and assuring Carter of re-election.
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359 Following is a brief overview of the reported activities of
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360 Reagan's "October 1980 surprise" team:
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361 Various reports reveal that Casey's "paramilitary wing"
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362 monitored U.S. military movements for the Reagan campaign, met with
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363 representatives of the Bani-Sadr government of Iran, and covertly
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364 obtained President Carter's debate briefing materials prior to the
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365 November election.
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366 These revelations alone carry enormous constitutional
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367 implications -- private citizens soliciting military and intelligence
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368 assistance in monitoring U.S. government operations, private citizens
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369 meeting with foreign dignitaries in possible state negotiations, and
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370 private citizens clandestinely obtaining property of the United States
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371 President -- and yet they were not followed up by the major media once
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372 discovered and revealed in small, non-mass media publications.
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373 Even more disturbing is the issue of Iranian arms shipments.
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374 Documents confirm that within its first month, the Reagan
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375 administration gave a green light to Israel to resume its arms
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376 shipments to the Iranian government.
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377 These revelations support former Iranian President Bani-Sadr's
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378 assertion that the arms supply contract Iran signed with Israel in
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379 March 1981, less than two months after Reagan's inauguration, was the
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380 payoff for delaying the release of the American hostages until after
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381 the November 4, 1980 election.
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382 The hostages remained in captivity until January 20, 1981, the
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383 day Reagan took the oath of office, and they left Teheran minutes
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384 after he became president.
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385 A conspiracy between a presidential candidate and a hostile
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386 foreign power against an incumbent president would seem to be without
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387 precedent in American history. At the very least, it would seem that
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388 the documented charges revealed by a few journalists last year
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389 deserved to be investigated for the benefit of the American public by
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390 the U.S. media.
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391
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392 SOURCES: L.A. WEEKLY, 7/10/87, "Reagan's 1980 Hostage Deal," by
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393 Barbara Honegger with Jim Naureckas, pp 12, 14, 16; THE NATION,
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394 6/20/87 (p 842), 7/4/87 (p 7), 8/1/87 (p 80), 10/24/87 (p 440),
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395 11/21/87 (p 582), "Minority Report," all by Christopher Hitchens; S.F.
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396 EXAMINER, 7/12/87, "October Surprise," by Warren Hinckle, p A-13.
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397
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398 (Please listen to Jackson Browne's "Lives in the Balance" while reading the
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399 above. And remember that virtually all the currently held hostages are
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400 current or "former" agents of US intelligence agencies. The civilians had been
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401 strenuously warned to stay out of the extreme danger areas they were kidnap-
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402 ped in. It is still an outrage that those that claim to represent the
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403 "Christian" Ethic (Bush/Reagan/etc) are willing to play politics with other
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404 people's lives. Maybe we could trade Dan Quayle for a couple of them?)
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405
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406 696969696969696969
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407
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408
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025=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL 10/03/88 18:46 Msg:2448 Call:10005102 Lines:4
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409 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@User twoeightythree!, I hope!#############
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410 hey kurfur, is it some odd ironicy that your user number is 69?
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411 what exactly does tat symbolize?
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412 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@################################
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026=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 10/03/88 21:54 Msg:2449 Call:10005106 Lines:6
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413 ***************************************************************************
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414 Hey, I know, if a man "sins" (in the Christain ethic this would be fornicating
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415 outside of wedlock) then he should have the equipment that commited the offense
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416 cut off. That way he won't be able to commit the offense again. That sounds
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417 to me like a good conservative solution to the problem.
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418 **************************************************************************
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027=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/04/88 00:09 Msg:2450 Call:10005111 Lines:22
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419 &*&*&*&*'s
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420 Well, I have NO problems with a women doing anything with her body she wishes.
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421 I do howver have moral problems with allowing her to take the life of an
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422 unborn child. You don't get pregnant by sitting on dirty toilet seats.
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423
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424 Now, I would also say that the man should be legally bound to the child as
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425 well. Put the Basterd in jail if he won't support his part of the
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426 responsibility.
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427
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428 Don't mess around unless your prepared. If a man presures you and you don't
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429 feel as if you want to, I (as a man) would say do what ever is neccasry to
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430 discourage him. (Baseball bat, karate etc.)
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431
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432 The only issue here is wether the unborn are humen. If they are then abortion
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433 is murder. It's as simple as that.
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434
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435 (Please don't flame me, I am sincere and really would like to here reasonable
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436 arguments.)
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437
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438 Thank you,
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439 An Astral Dreamer.
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440 &*&*&*&*'s
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028=Usr:539 Renee Holmes 10/04/88 06:19 Msg:2451 Call:10005115 Lines:10
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441 ***************************** September 4 **********************************
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442 There are cases where I agree, abortion should not be used as a birth
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443 control. But you cannot even imagine carrying something around inside you
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444 for nine months, that is the product of a rape. Rape is cause for serious
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445 counseling in and of itself, having to deliver a baby as a result of it, you
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446 cannot even comprehend, I can't I haven't gone through it. No, abortion
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447 has to be a choice open to a woman, she is the one who will live with the
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448 decision.
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449 -Renee-
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450 *****************************************************************************
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029=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON 10/04/88 14:28 Msg:2452 Call:10005122 Lines:2
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451 Fickt Euch Doch In Arsch!!!!(FEDIA)
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452
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030=Usr:483 Lord Beaker 10/04/88 17:10 Msg:2453 Call:10005126 Lines:14
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453 ----=-===-=-----------=-==========-=---------=-===========-=-----------=-===
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454 Once again Renee, you must ask, is the child human? To murder a human for
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455 the deed of its father...not something I'd like to see come into common
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456 practice. But then it is not so much a human as something with human
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457 potential (If you kill a catapiller have you killed a butterfly?). I just
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458 don't know what to think. I've never thought of death as being so bad, but
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459 only when delt with respectfuly, I hardly consider abortion respectful (It
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460 is often so calous and uncareing). I agree the woman needs the ability to
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461 make a choice, but what of the potential human...
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462
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463 Lord Beaker \-\-\-\-\-\-\-\__/
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464 o-o-o-o-o-o-o-oo
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465 7''abernaky-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y
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466 -=-=-=--{=====-=------=---------=====-=--------=-=-=======--------======--=-
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031=Usr:588 Wayne S. 10/04/88 17:38 Msg:2454 Call:10005127 Lines:23
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467 ===================================================================
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468
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469 I am a male who agrees with the viewpoint that abortion is "morally"
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471 wrong. But I do not believe there is enough evidence of when the human
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472 fetus becomes a person to support all the mass hysteria that seems to
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474 surround the subject (i.e. The Moral Right). I choose now that my wife
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475 not have an abortion even in the case of rape. But I would not pretend
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476 that nothing could possibly change my choice should I experience the rea-
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477 lity of that situation, nor would I endeavor to pressure my wife to
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478 abide by my choice should she choose differently. I suppose there is
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479 some hypocrisy in that if the choice had to be made between the life of
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480 an unborn baby and the life of my wife, I would not hesitate to choose
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481 an abortion. I believe this is not a question of morals that make or
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482 break civilization. These are the morals that persons must decide for
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483 themselves if they can live with their choice, and if they believe in a
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484 God, can they consider their actions moral in the context of their reli-
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485 gious beliefs. Anyone else?
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486
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487 Signer
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488
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489 =======================================================================
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032=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON 10/04/88 20:35 Msg:2455 Call:10005129 Lines:8
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490 Good God shagy we've got a 'abortion' debte going on here? Why don't we
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491 change the subject to Nuclear Arms Race? Or Teenagers using drugs? Or Green
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492 house effect which is all going to kill us within the next century if nuclear
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493 arms don't grab on to is first! C'mon people! This is not a board for debate!
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494 At least I would assume not! Good nite & Good rittens!
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495 ///////////////////////?SCOOOOOOOOBY DOOOOOOOOO?////////////////////////////
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496
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497 ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWZY&Z(I learned that in 10th grade!) ->Moron!
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033=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 10/04/88 21:34 Msg:2456 Call:10005132 Lines:35
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498 ***************************************************************************
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499 Who says BW is not a board for debate (or even tht it is a debatable boar
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500 Debates have always been here.
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501 The problem with abortion is that it is such an emotional and thus religous
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502 tied issue that it is essentially impossible for any consensous to be
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503 achieved. Myself, I recognise that there are many view points to life
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504 and that my own view point is just that, my own. I do not try to demand that
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505 the whole world should live the way I believe. On the same note I don't care
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506 much for people who think they have a God given right to tell me what I
|
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507 should or should not believe.
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508 Thus I don't feel that I or anyone else has any right to demand that
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509 a woman have or not have an abortion. that is a decision that only she can
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510 make based on her own beliefs. No one else has the right to presume that
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511 they can make a decision for her.
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512 From a personal standpoint, if I had to make the decision, I would look
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513 at it based on the situation. One thing to always remember is that the woman
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514 can (with a few exceptions) concieve multiple times. Whereas her own life
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515 is but once. In that regard I have absolutely no misgivings. The woman's
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516 life is more important.
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517 Then come the less certain areas, what about emotional stability and
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518 quality of life? Should a woman be forced to bare a child that was unwanted
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519 due to rape or other type circumstances? There are emense emotional wounds
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520 that go with this. WOuld you forever destroy her life by demanding that she
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521 carry full term something thatwill reminder her of this for the rest of
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522 her life? I personally feel that no one has any right to demand that she
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523 do something that will damage her either physically or emotionally.
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524 And what of the child? think of the world of hatred and lonelyness that
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525 it would be forced into. It would be far better to wait for a time when the
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526 mother is able to deal with it on a more emotionally stable position
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527 (if at all).
|
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528 A persons sanity is as important as their life. What good is it to save
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529 one life when you've destroyed another. The woman can conceive again when she
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530 is physically and emotionally ready. Thus I lean in the direction that
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531 only the woman can make the decision.
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532 **************************************************************************
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034=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 10/05/88 01:22 Msg:2457 Call:10005136 Lines:100
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533
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534 {}
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535
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536 In my most Humble Opinion, I feel that abortion is an issue that should
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537 be decided upon by the person it directly affects. Who recieves the most
|
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538 impact from an unwanted pregnancy? The woman. Who is the most vulnerable
|
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539 in terms of economic, social, and physical standings? The woman. Who
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540 does not directly come under the effects of the pregnancy? The man.
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541 Because our society is founded upon much of Old English values (don't
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542 believe me? Read your history again...), and those values carried a heavy
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543 bias in favor of the male, the female involved will, by natural consequence
|
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544 and logic, suffer. It is not for men to decide the fate of women, for
|
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545 the male body (and in the case of our society) and life(style) are
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546 not directly implicated in a pregnancy. Women should be given the
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547 choice to allow or disallow abortions; I say this because we still
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548 live in a male-dominated society. I do NOT promote the feminist
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549 movement; for that is a falacy; basically, fighting chauvanism with
|
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550 chauvanism. They have become just as bad as the people they fight
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551 against; and their rhetoric is just as degrading as that of the
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552 Male Chauvanist. Because abortion is quickly becoming more of a
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553 social issue, and society still has the male bias in it, I feel that
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554 the issue comes to letting a (mature) woman decide if the pregnancy
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555 is to be left or aborted. Also, you can't say abortion is
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556 'in toto' immoral. Women FREQUENTLY and SPONTANEOUSLY abort
|
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557 possible pregnancies, without their knowledge. Spontaneous abortion
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558 occurs about 25% to 50% of the time. Otherwise, the pregnancy rate
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559 in the 'United States' would be many many many many times higher.
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560 The reason that this is a little-known fact comes from the sexual
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561 values in 'America' today. By scareing teens and young adults, and
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562 through the careful use of partial information, the controling
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563 portion of 'America' can hope to prevent teen pregnancies;
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564
|
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565 Which brings us to another point;
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566
|
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567 The root of abortion is found in the branch of American sexuality;
|
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568 which, in turn, is found in Human Sexuality, which (finally) represents
|
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569 the foundation of Human Life. Want to eliminate abortions? Increase
|
||
570 birth control. I personally believe this because few belief systems
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571 discourage birth control; and the ones that do, usually allow the
|
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572 woman to prevent intercourse. Any belief that does NOT allow a woman
|
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573 to prevent intercouse invites rape. And if that belief has values
|
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574 against rape, well... don't through stones in glass houses (especially
|
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575 AFTER you have move indoors) :)
|
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576
|
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577 But I hope you 'see' my main thrust; that birth control presents
|
||
578 a viable answer to the abortion problem (for those who are against it
|
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579 and for those who are for it). Reguardless of the side you are on,
|
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580 birth control represents an easy, understandable alternative. If
|
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581 your belief system does not promote birth control, then you don't
|
||
582 have to use it. If you believe in birth control, then by all means,
|
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583 use it. If you're out in left feild (you can't make up your mind),
|
||
584 then simply abstain. If you can't abstain, then you should re-evaluate
|
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585 your beliefs - you have a MAJOR problem somewhere.
|
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586
|
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587 But abortion will be (in my eyes), and always, a problem of
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588 sexuality, and not a direct problem in itself. Why do we try to
|
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589 censor thoughts, deny birth control, and scare our young adults
|
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590 when we should guide them, teach them, and let them understand the
|
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591 meaning, consequences, and responsibilites of human sexuality. Teen
|
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592 pregnancy doesn't come from keeping knowledge like that from teenagers;
|
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593 it comes from not fully understanding (note: I didn't say knowing) the
|
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594 good and bad of human sexuality. You might be suprised at the
|
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595 growing number of teenagers who can't comprehend the circumstances
|
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596 of sex. If they would have been taught from when they were
|
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597 young up to the present, then they might be able to concieve of
|
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598 the implications. Instead, we:
|
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599
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600 1) tell them 'the stork brings babies'. A pile of bullsh*t.
|
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601 2) tell them simply to 'not do it', without telling them what
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602 to avoid in the first place. This is misguidence (the
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603 person recieving the message can not comprehend the
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604 meaning of it; and they will simply go of to find out
|
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605 for themselves)
|
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606 3) harass them when they attempt to buy contraceptives, or
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607 punish them if we find contraceptives in their room, etc...
|
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608 This is equivilent to taking away a rabies shot from
|
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609 someone who has been bit by an unknown dog. If you're
|
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610 lucky, you just might live...
|
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611 4) make a feeble attempt to inform our young ones when their much
|
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612 much much much too old. Puberty truely marks sexual awakening,
|
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613 but parents, teachers, etc. will hide information until many
|
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614 many years later. 17-12 = 5 years without any truthful information.
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615 5) expect (in some cases) for our children to discover sex and
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616 desires on thier own. Might as well feed them toxic waste
|
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617 for a few years; then you decide to read the contents on the
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618 box...
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619
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620 I point my 'arguement' at teen-age sexuality because that teenagers
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621 will be an adult in a few years. And that adult will most likely become
|
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622 a part of a society geared for and by, other adults that are older than
|
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623 them. The world belongs to our children, not us. While they are not
|
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624 immortal, they will be around loger than most of us.
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625
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626 I did not mean to offend anyone, or to show disrespect. This is
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627 a private opinion that I have decided (much to my disagreement with
|
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628 my
|
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629 self) to share with you. Enough of abortion debates! A new disk
|
||
630 awaits us; fill it with stories that you will, someday, tell
|
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631 your children.
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632 H. Celine, Humble Guru.
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035=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/05/88 03:43 Msg:2458 Call:10005137 Lines:28
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633 &*&*&*&*'s
|
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634 I have been impressed with the responses here. Thy confirm my high opinion
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635 of the peaple who use this board.
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636
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637 I would like to say that I fully agree with what Hagbard says in the area of
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638 teenage sexuality and birth control. I wonder how many screwed up adults we
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639 have running around now because they got bombarded with the "Sex is evil"
|
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640 type form of birth control.
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641
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642 Sex is a neccasary bodily function. An enjoyable one no doubt, but in reallity
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643 little differant from sleeping or eating.
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644
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645 We cannot legislate morality. I do not support the Illegaliztion of abortion.
|
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646 But I do feel it is my job to be as hounest as I can be when expressinf an
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647 opinion. The male dominance in this sociaty is definatly still prevalent, but
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648 I do see many signs of improvment. Women are now showing up in growing
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649 numbers in fields were they have rarely been seen before. Given time I think
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650 we will come to a fairly balanced role.
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651
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652 Sorry about continuing this Hagbard, but I felt I had to make a closing s
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653 statment. I'm trying to think of story material right now.
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654
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655 Hmm, how about the advenrure in the land of Unix? we could meet the Unix
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656 wizards and decipher the cryptic comands of power. (rn,ls,vi etc.)
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657
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658 :-)
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659 An Astral Dreamer.
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660 &*&*&*&*'s
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036=Usr:590 joe g 10/05/88 17:46 Msg:2459 Call:10005148 Lines:14
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661 this is the test of this thing this is the test of this thing this is
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662 the test of this thing this is the test of this thing this is the test
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663
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664
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665 this is getting MUCH too serious.Has anyone seen any good movies lately?
|
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666 I saw "A FISH CALLED WANDA" and thought it was outrageously funny. I've
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667 heard you should stay away from the new Jeff Goldbloom movie,possibly
|
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668 the worst all year. Anyway, you'll probably all go back to politics and
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669 religon right after this lighthearted interlude. It seems like a little
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670 person just can't make a difference in this big world anymore.
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671
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672
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673 this is the test of this thing this is the test of this thing this is the
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674 test of this thing this is the test of this thing this is the test
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037=Usr:70 Kurfur Redlig 10/05/88 22:06 Msg:2460 Call:10005156 Lines:29
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675 KKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Back with some (wrong) answerssssssssssssssss
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676
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677 H'lo, yes it's me again. Try to sound enthusiastic amid the bored yawns
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678 ok?
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679
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680 When it comes to abortion and unwanted pregnancy, I will take the
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681 normal Berserker's Viewpoint:
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682
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683 Who Cares?
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684
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685 Seriously, though, I don't intend to cause an unwanted pregnancy, nor
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686 do I seem likely to be so in the future. Therefore, I think that It
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687 really has no0bearing on my life, and, being so, "Who Cares?" What I do
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688 not like are people who are not involved in the issue trying to impose
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689 their own morals upon other people whos situation has nothing to do
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690 with them. This goes to both sides. Whatever you do is your own right
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691 as long as it affects no-one else (or nothing else). Whether a fetus is
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692 someone or not, I cannot tell, and therefore, my opinion accounts for
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693 very little. Radicalism in any way is not a good thing.
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694
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695 Qs d my # being 69, you will probably notice that I (or should that be
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696 'we') am also #70. Don't ask why, I don't know.
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697
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698 Roses are Red,
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699 Violets are Blue,
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700 I'm schizophrenic,
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701 and so am I.
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702
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703 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Ca~ you read this?????????????????????????
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038=Usr:47 John Dilks 10/05/88 22:31 Msg:2461 Call:10005158 Lines:7
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704 ----------------------------------------------------------------
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705 And now, for an opposing view point.
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706 Any woman who even :dhinks* of having an abortion
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707 should be Shot! Also remember that if it wasn't
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708 for us males you women wouldn't even be here.
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709 John -
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710 ----------------------------------------------------
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039=Usr:562 Blank Doe 10/05/88 22:43 ]cg:2$62 Call:10005159 Lines:29
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711 This Is World Watch Three>>>>>>>>>>
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712
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713 >Any woman who even *thinks* of having an abortion should be shot!
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714 It is my not so humble opinion that the above comment was made out of
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715 ignorance. First, leds lok at the logic in volved. I shall assume that th
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716 person 'John' considders the fetus is a living being. Ofcourse every living
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717 being should be allowed to live, hence he is against abortion. He is so
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718 against abortin, he would have thu wo}an shot who '*thinks* of having an
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719 abortion' shot. Damn sound logic to me! NOT ONLY WOULD THE WOMAN DIE, BUT SO
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720 WOULD THE UNBORN CHILD! Good God man, THINK!!!
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721 Second, it sounds to me as tho' 'John' would have people conditioned to thin{
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722 his way lest they be killed. Sounds like a superiority complex to me.
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723
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724 >Also remember that if it wasn't for us males you women wouldn't even be here.
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725 Well, a statment like thit, even 'John' could see the redundancy in it! It's0
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72& so circular it's funny. Yes, it would be dificult for women to be here, but it
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727 wouldn't be to easy for us men to be here either! Again, Mister, THINK!
|
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728 Here at Network 0 we have a moto for people, for comments like these:
|
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729 F0L A0M E O N ! !
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730
|
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731 For World Watch Three, I'm blank doe hoping all people, alover the multiverse
|
||
732 will join to geter to fight the desease of stupidity and ignorance.
|
||
733 Thank you for your time.
|
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734 NW0>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ww3
|
||
'35
|
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736 The blank doe show has bean brought to yu by Smirf Wafers. Yes, those little
|
||
737 blue disks that taste so good with mead.
|
||
738 And if you like our Smirf Wafers, then you'll flip for our Smirf Bars!
|
||
739 (yes, I know I spelt it 'Smirf'.)
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040=Ucr:4)8 Hagbard Celine , 10/06/88 00:21 Msg:2463 Call:10005163 Lines:74
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740
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741 {}
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742
|
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743 Once again I percieve why I prefer typing onto a disk a bunch of
|
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744 words over other fun activities: Astral Dreamer is right; the majority
|
||
745 of pe`le on Backwater are of high caliber and broad knowledge. Maybe
|
||
746 that's why everyone feels at home here - I know, I know, my ego is
|
||
747 inflateing along with everyone else, but I think this to be true.
|
||
748 Unfortuneately, my spelling is deterioratinw alng with it.
|
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749
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750 * * *
|
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751
|
||
752 Kurfur seemingly was not interested in the free mead & ale, so
|
||
753 I sent him another stein, in hopes that he might take the bait again.
|
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754
|
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755 Wonderer, excuse me for a moment;
|
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756
|
||
757 I0ope~ed the All-Seeing Eye. A premutation (yes, PREMUTATION, ya
|
||
758 know, the mathematical meaning) came to me; it involved an earlier
|
||
759 idea; The Eye closed and I was returned to the Inn at the Crossroads...
|
||
760
|
||
761 "Now! Now is the time!"
|
||
7&2 0
|
||
763 The barkeep seemed a little upset with the idea. A quick
|
||
764 telepathic metaphor calmed him. He would be better off, with
|
||
765 what I had planned for his Inn. I asked for the barkeep's
|
||
766 name. "Joe Tesseract Infinity", he replied. "You can call me
|
||
767 JT for short." Fine, I replied.
|
||
768
|
||
769 "Wonderer, please isolate your being for a short while. I'm
|
||
770 going to be doing some Inter-Dimensional work"
|
||
771
|
||
772 The Eye opened again. The Inn was surrounded, then sealed, in
|
||
7'3 a gravity bubble. I felt the weight, the age, of the Inn. Eternity
|
||
774 was slightly older than this place of rest and cheer. Even after
|
||
775 enlightenment, I still held the thought in awe; but I had to push that
|
||
776 aside, for I could not hold it forever. I opened a larger sphere in
|
||
777 my private Beta Space; then, I place the gravity bubble inside the
|
||
778 sphere; and finally, I re-synced the time flow, making the Beta
|
||
779 sphere shrink around the physical dimensions of the Inn. And,
|
||
7800as qn added touch, a cyclitic wavelength generator was diffused
|
||
781 throughout the atmosphere of the Inn (read: a light source that
|
||
782 simulated day and night.) This left some ecology adjustments
|
||
783 to allow for water, oxygen re-cycling, and an interface for
|
||
784 Beta Space (the gravity bubble would let light in and out, but
|
||
785 you couldn't pass through it). A few trees here and there, a
|
||
786 lawn over most of the dusty road, and an arch acting as the
|
||
787 portal made the New Inn complete.
|
||
788
|
||
789 0 The eye closed.
|
||
790
|
||
791 Five seconds had passed. My 'body' felt weak and non-material.
|
||
792 It seemed difficult, so I opted to float in the lotus possition
|
||
793 out of fatigue.
|
||
794
|
||
795 "The arch outside will take you where you please.0 You simply
|
||
796 think of your destination, step through, and an arch on the other
|
||
797 side will appear with you stepping out. To get into the Inn's
|
||
798 reality, you can either teleport, meditate, or think of the Inn
|
||
799 and walk through a normal, no~-mawical arch. The size is such
|
||
800 as to allow for physical transportation devices, up to a
|
||
801 2895 Nova Tank (roughly the width of 3 1/2 school busses). Any
|
||
802 being with a hostile intent for the inhabitents of the Inn will
|
||
803 simply be returnet to dhe point of origin; that is, they can'y
|
||
804 come through, and they'll just pop back into their own reality
|
||
805 right after the time they left. But this has cost me
|
||
806 energy and thought; I must rest, until the start of the new
|
||
807 disk. By the~, I0should be well enough to make modifications
|
||
808 as needed. Please, ask everyone for advice on the new location
|
||
809 of the Inn."
|
||
810
|
||
811 H. Celine, very tired Guru. Fill the disk, please.
|
||
812
|
||
813 {}
|
||
041=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON 10/06/(8 14:22 Msg:2464 Call:10005170 Lines:18
|
||
814 Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
|
||
815
|
||
816 Hey Shagy gives ya somethin' to think about? I want a scooby snack! NOW!
|
||
817 ----------------------------------------=---=----------------------------------
|
||
818 How many people actually read that information that person wrote!? I skipped
|
||
819 a couple lines .... sorry!
|
||
820 Please next disk let's start a new debate. Abortion & Politics is getting
|
||
821 kind of old. I have nodhing againts debates. IN fact they can be fun but once
|
||
822 they get into touchy situations like Politics & Abortion where everyone has
|
||
823 their own detailed opinion.... but hey that's what debating is all about right?
|
||
824 OH well enough said... I'} tbying to fill the disk space! But i don't know
|
||
825 what to say. Speaking of debates. Any one catch the VP debate? I sure missed
|
||
826 out on that one! Thank God!------------------/STIKKY/-+=+-+=+-+=_==_+_+_++__+
|
||
827
|
||
828 DEATH TO SMURFS, DEATH TO SMERFS,0DEATH TO SMURFS, DEATH TO SMURFS, DEATH TO
|
||
829 SMURFS, DEATH TO SMURFS, DEATH TO SMURFS DEATH TO SMURFS, DEATH TO SMURFS!!!!
|
||
830
|
||
831 Question of the month: HOW DO SMURFS REPRODUCE?!!!!!!!!!
|
||
042=Usr:70 Kurfur Redlig 10/06/88 20:32 Msg:2465 Sall:!0005178 Lines:14
|
||
832 KKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | How can one oppose complacency???????????????
|
||
833
|
||
834 How do Smurfs Reproduce? Do you really want to know?
|
||
835
|
||
836
|
||
837 "Do I smell Mead?" I asked, as I entered the main bar room. "By the way,
|
||
(38 there's a rather large temporal skew outside the door. Is this place under
|
||
839 construction or something?" And to the bartender, "Large Mead, and a box
|
||
840 of Smurf Mushroom Houses, preferably with the Smurfs pre-cooked inside, and
|
||
841 don't loo{ ad0me like that, thank you."
|
||
842 The Inkeeper went away muttering something about restocking. I was back,
|
||
843 or had I even left? No matter. "When are we?"
|
||
844
|
||
845 KKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Wassup? (besides the sky))))))))))))))))))))
|
||
043=Usr:"14 Txe Mysterious F 10/06/88 21:05 Msg:2466 Call:10005179 Lines:30
|
||
846
|
||
847 Now, for a different viewpoint. I'm female. That probably puts me i
|
||
848 the minority on here, and gives me a semi-unique perspective. For
|
||
849 unique perspective number tgo,0I've had an abortion. One. I wouldn't
|
||
850 do it again, but I don't regret what I did.
|
||
851
|
||
852 If you've never been facing an unwanted pregnancy, you have no idea what
|
||
853 it is like to go to the doctor's office and have your worst fears
|
||
854 sonfibmed. Suddenly your future is in pieces. But, but, but ... I have
|
||
855 to finish school. I've got my whole career ahead of me. How am I going
|
||
856 to be able to do all of this and give a baby a good life? I don't
|
||
857 have any money. I can't afford d have a baby. I'll wind up another
|
||
858 welfare mother living in a slum. That isn't fair to a child.
|
||
859
|
||
860 I don't advocate abortion as a method of birth control. But accidents
|
||
861 do happen. That's how I became pregnant. I also don't beliuve yn late
|
||
862 (> first trimester) abortions. But had I not had that choice available
|
||
863 to me, I don't know what I would have done. I certainly don't think I
|
||
864 could have raised an unwanted child in the manner he would deserve.
|
||
865
|
||
866 When Y was at the clinic, I met women who were having their third or
|
||
867 fourth abortion. That's ridiculous, and entirely uncalled for. If
|
||
868 somebody can't figure out how not to get pregnant repeatedly, they're
|
||
869 too dumb to have reproductive organs. 8No flames, I don't REALLY mean
|
||
870 that. They SHOULD be given a mandatory contraceptive-education class
|
||
871 after number two, if not number one.) But I don't think that any
|
||
872 of the religious-wacko moral-majority types have the right to tell any
|
||
8'3 person that they can't have an early abortion. It's none of their
|
||
874 business.
|
||
875
|
||
044=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 10/06/88 22:56 Msg:2467 Call:10005181 Lines:70
|
||
876 {}
|
||
877
|
||
878 "Kurfur, welcome to Beta Space!"
|
||
879
|
||
880 He seemed a lyttlu puzzled as to what Beta Space was.
|
||
881
|
||
882 "Beta Space is akin to Hyper Space, but it is not a unique dimension.
|
||
883 Beta Space is my own private dimension that I created for myself. Time
|
||
884 flows very slowly through Beta Space - which is0ghy0dhe temporal flow is
|
||
885 skewed around the Gravity Bubble. As time meets this reality, it must be
|
||
886 adjusted for physical dimensions. Otherwise, the stein you're drinking
|
||
887 would be the size of a car, but you would be the same size. The
|
||
8880gravity bubble WARPS time, making time 'speed up' inside the bubble to
|
||
889 match physical surrounds from a different dimension. The closer you
|
||
890 are to the bubble (from the outside), the more temporal skew you will
|
||
891 feel. Which reminds me - I neet to0make a wormhole, so visitors will
|
||
892 not feel like they're on a bad airplane ride when they pass through the
|
||
893 gates. The wormhole might distort your vision for a moment, but the
|
||
894 physical properties would only gradually change. It's inhabitablu,
|
||
895 but yes, it is still under construction."
|
||
896
|
||
897 "JT, could you check your cooler... I've made some modifications
|
||
898 to allow for a larger audience." JT, tired, hurried, stressed,
|
||
899 angry, and bothered by the new regulars, smiled0for0dhe first time
|
||
900 since we all met at the Inn. For once, these strange people had done
|
||
901 something wonderful for him; if, after climbing down from a 6 foot
|
||
902 stein, mopping the floor whenever the police arrived, and quiet,
|
||
903 floating men i~ robes had startled him, he had ever had enough,
|
||
904 then the relocation of the Inn was it. But, he understood,
|
||
905 for a moment, how he played a major role in the afairs of the
|
||
906 multiverses;
|
||
907
|
||
908 and then the thought passed from his mind+
|
||
9 9
|
||
910 and he was unconcered, and upset, the same as before. JT
|
||
911 went back to the cooler for two steins of mead; one for Kurfur,
|
||
912 and one I had just ordered on-the-spot. Wonderer seemed to
|
||
913 be thristy, also, so I yelled for another meqd on my 'tab'.
|
||
914
|
||
915 "Say, maybe we could do away with money - if we could figure out
|
||
916 how to make resources self-replenishing at the Inn. This would
|
||
917 make the Inn a welcome place for newcomers, who have little money
|
||
918 and are tired vbom travel. To borrow a phrase from a civil
|
||
919 revolutionary, 'I have a dream'. The Inn would be a place of
|
||
920 good food and drink, with personalized rooms to accomodate its
|
||
921 regular patrons, and a place of safety. Any ideas? Opinions?
|
||
922 Comments?"
|
||
923
|
||
924 Hagbard Celine, off to NAG BBS... have a nice evening.
|
||
925
|
||
926 P.S. I will be on 'vacation' from Saturday Night to
|
||
927 Monday Night. Keep me posted about action on the
|
||
928 board, please! (My Significant Odxer }isses me just
|
||
929 as much as I miss her!)
|
||
930
|
||
931 {}
|
||
932
|
||
933 Oops - forgot to say:
|
||
934
|
||
935 "Filleth thy disk with humour and goode thoughte, ye, seek not
|
||
936 to indulge in bashing thy name with four-letter words, nor ye seek
|
||
9370to dishonor thy name by useage of thy border. Tommorrowe is comeing
|
||
938 through the Most Mightie and Honorable *New Disk*; and it is said
|
||
939 that it shoulde be filled withe more humour and goode thoughte."
|
||
940
|
||
941 This ad brought to you by0iour resident Guru and mush-mind.
|
||
942
|
||
943 H. Celine
|
||
944
|
||
945 {}
|
||
045=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/07/88 01:48 Msg:2468 Call:10005187 Lines:19
|
||
946 &*&*&*&*'s
|
||
947 Good day Hagbard!
|
||
948
|
||
949 I had wondered what changes you had in mind. All in0all I think it is an
|
||
950 improvment. The old place was somewhat hard to find at times.
|
||
951
|
||
952 I have taried to long in this place. I must live up to my name now and travel
|
||
953 on. I will return soon and tell you all of my adventures.
|
||
954
|
||
955 C saying I walked from the Inn and into the Portal. "To the home of the Tahan
|
||
956 Monks, I have need of good humor after the stresses of late."
|
||
957
|
||
958 And so the journey began.
|
||
959
|
||
960 An Astral Dreamer.
|
||
961 &*&*&*&*'s
|
||
962
|
||
963 Why do Smurfs reprduce?
|
||
964
|
||
046=Usr:539 Renee Holmes 10/07/88 06:35 Msg:2469 Call:10005188 Lines:9
|
||
965 ***************************** October 7, 1988 **************************
|
||
966 35 lines to go to finish the disk, if only I were a prolific writer.
|
||
967 I0guesc Smurfs reproduce to make little Smurfs. Obviously the one female
|
||
968 Smurf is a very happy (but tired) Smurf.
|
||
969 Bye....
|
||
970 -Renee-
|
||
971 ************************************************************************
|
||
972
|
||
973
|
||
047=Usr:507 todd bogebs 10/07/88 11:38 Msg:2470 Call:10005233 Lines:3
|
||
974 ------- Baby Smurfs are delivered by stork
|
||
975 ------- once in a blue moon.
|
||
976
|
||
048=Usr:483 Lord Beaker 10/07/88 14:48 Msg:2471 Call:10005234 Lines:23
|
||
977 -==-================-=---=-------=-================-=-=-------=---------====
|
||
978 It was a dark and stormy night. The moon was full but you couldn't see it
|
||
979 through the clouds. Thick dark clouds. I stood beneath a moderatly large
|
||
980 oak tree. Staring down the hill. 0Staring at her...
|
||
981
|
||
982 She got into the car, it was a 64 chevy convertable with the top up. The
|
||
983 puddles in the road deepened...each it's own churning pond of primordial
|
||
984 soup. After the third try, her engine started. She waited in the0car> She
|
||
985 honked the horn, twice. Then he came out of the house.
|
||
986
|
||
987 It was him...my antithesis! I had finnaly caught up with him. Of all the
|
||
988 places to find him, it finnaly happened here. In New Jersey. I remember
|
||
989 that first ~ight, back in Boise, when I was younger - young enough to still
|
||
990 be able to recognize the dark inuendoes of his crimminal peersonality. The
|
||
991 sinistar shadows under the eyebrows, the perpetual sneer, and the uzi like
|
||
992 buldge under the trench-cat.0 He was younger too. And handsom enough to
|
||
993 call her attention to him from across the crowded room. That was before I
|
||
994 had seen her. That was the night when my life changed.
|
||
995
|
||
996 Wait, whats that? The clouds have broken. What a bright light...different
|
||
997 colors, a bright beam. AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
|
||
998 Lord Beaker \__/ We apologize for the inconvenience.
|
||
999 -{--===--==-=oo-=-=============---=-=-----------=-============-=----------=-
|