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001=Usr:0 Null User 06/30/87 20:34 Msg:0 Call:0 Lines:19
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1$If you are in need of help, you need but ask...
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2$************************* INSTALLED: 24 SEP 88 ***************************
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3$Welcome to BWMS II (BackWater Message System II) Mike Day System operator
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002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 09/24/88 20:37 Msg:2360 Call:10004800 Lines:3
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20 Each morning puts a man on trial and each evening passes judgment.
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21 ********************************************************************
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22
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003=Usr:113 James Of Cassand 09/24/88 20:47 Msg:2361 Call:10004802 Lines:11
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23 !!!!!@@@@@#####$$$$$+++++)))))
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24
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25 I'm at the Top! Wow, it finally happened. Here I am standing above it all.
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26 The glories of word wrap lie somewere below. I guess I should get ready to sign
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27 off here as I am sure tere are many of you out there waiting for the chance to
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28 try to be at the top. Oh well, maybe next disk.
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29
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30 James of Cassandra.
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31
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32 !!!!!@@@@@#####$$$$$+++++)))))
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33
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004=Usr:483 Lord Beaker 09/24/88 21:44 Msg:2362 Call:10004804 Lines:20
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34 -------=======-==-=========-------==-=======------==-=========-=====--======
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35 AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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36 I missed again! Curses. @#%$, *@#, #%^**@!!! There I feel better now. plea
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37 se forgive the graphic sugestion of language. Number 2! Number 2! Number 2!
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38
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39 If you could James of Cassandra, what time did you call. I've been trying f
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40 or the top for about a year now. I thought I had it this time. Oh well 2 i
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41 s nice. I mean if I came home from the Olympics with a silver medal I would
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42 hardly complain.
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43
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44 What was going on last disk. Let's see...Word Wrap debates seem most promin
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45 ent in my mind. Hey take up space out there, the sooner this disk is filled
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46 the sooner were archived to eternity and I can get to the top again.
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47
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48 Any one going to see D.J. Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince in concert?
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49
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50
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51 Lord (osientelafamorphic) Beaker \__/
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52 7''abernacky ------------------- oo
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53 ---=-==-=-{=-======--------=-==========----------======-=====----------=====
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005=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/25/88 08:51 Msg:2363 Call:10004811 Lines:21
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54 &*&*&*&*'s
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55 Yes, Fill the disk! (Maybe this should be our battle cry this disk!) Hmm,
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56 perhaps I am using to may explanation points!
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57
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58 So, It would seem that the wanderer was minding his own business when suddenly
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59 he was knocked on his but by somebody coming up through the floor. Hmm.
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60
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61 The wander looked at the creature for a moment and then raised hiimself from
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62 the floor. "Yes, this is the Inn at the crossroads. You make entrances nearly
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63
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64 as grand as John Eddison. Would you like to join me for dinner?"
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65
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66 Hagbard, I do have the orb. It was a matter of the proper binding of the orb
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67 to my, hmm. Being I guess you would call it. I would be willing to go back
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68 and do that part of the story though if you wish. Fighting the destructive
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69 lords of chaos might be fun. Of course it would be hard to write this in a
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70 multi-author format.
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71
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72 An Astral Dreamer.
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73 &*&*&*&*'s
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74
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006=Usr:214 The Mysterious F 09/25/88 10:35 Msg:2364 Call:10004813 Lines:6
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75 backwater()
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76 {
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77 for(;;)
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78 stay_the_same();
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79 }
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80
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007=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON 09/25/88 12:07 Msg:2365 Call:10004814 Lines:7
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81 As I got up this morning , I stepped on my hand. Then I stepped on my other
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82 hand. Then I stepped on my ear....... This is my daily routine to get things
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83 started. Eventually I cut open my brain. Eventually I can't think .......
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84 eventually I die - Mr. Eggheadgoofychicken! Thanks A-L-O-T!
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85
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86 How do you spell word warp?Gimme a clue..just a small little clue? Pleeze
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87 I'll do you laundry for 3 weeks! What a bargin! Bye
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008=Usr:483 Lord Beaker 09/25/88 13:35 Msg:2366 Call:10004816 Lines:19
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88 -----=-=========-=---------=--========-=-----========-------=-============--
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89 Fill the Disk! (Battle Cry)
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90
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91 Slow slow slow slow Sunday...I love it! Nothing, absolutly nothing in the w
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92 orld to do. Erg, except homework. You'd think that there would be some way
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93 around it. Anybody seen Spell Binder? Sort of unrealistic...but I liked th
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94 e plot. Nobody tell anybody what happens, it would rune the whole movie. W
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95 ell I've been rambling enough, I guess I'll go do my homework. Hey, what ar
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96 e some good things to take pictures of...I've gotta shoot a role of film for
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97 photagraphy.
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98
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99 Lord Beaker \__/ |
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100 oo |
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101 The 8th Abernacky |
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102
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103 -=-=======-=--{=======-------========------==-=======--------=-=============
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104 92
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105 106
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106 88
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009=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/25/88 14:36 Msg:2367 Call:10004818 Lines:13
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107 &*&*&*&*'s
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108 Life in the sloooooowwwwwww lane. Today Is the last day of all of your past lif
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109 e, tommorow is a new begining. Oh well, lets see.
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110
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111 Hmm. I wonder if Kurfur is going to enter any more mesages?
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112
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113 Oh yes, Hagbard. Did you leave me a message on NAG?
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114
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115 An Astral Dreamer. (Fill the Disk.)
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116
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117 &*&*&*&*'s
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118
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119
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010=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL 09/25/88 14:59 Msg:2368 Call:10004819 Lines:8
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120 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@User you know who!#############################
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121 I have a challange!
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122
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123 To the user who posts the last line on disk b and the first line on
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124 disk a in the same round of disks, you will be the new leader of the
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125 word wrap kingdom.
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126
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127 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@##############################
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011=Usr:483 Lord Beaker 09/25/88 19:03 Msg:2369 Call:10004827 Lines:17
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128 -----=-==============---===-======---=======---=-========------=-======-====
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129 Leader of the kingdom eh? Sounds good, but we could go forever and ever wit
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130 h out ever comeing up with a person who meets the chalenge. What do we do u
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131 ntil then. Hey, whatsay we all get together this weekend and build a great
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132 big stone Idol of me. Then we can worship that until its found that I'm the
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133 true leader of word wrap.
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134
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135 Anyone see the 'PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES'. Dead, dead, dead, dead. I guess I'm
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136 for the 'DUKE'!! Though I must say I am neither Democrat nor Republican, I
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137 decide on the persons actual statements and past record. I must say...I thin
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138 k Bush was made to look like a blithering idiot. I hope quit desperatly that
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139 he does not win. Oh please, please, please don't let it happen. Oh well. L
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140 ET THE PEOPLE DECIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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141
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142 LB\__/
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143 oo
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144 -====--=-{=-=----=========----------=-=============--=---------------=-=====
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012=Usr:529 Bob Madison 09/25/88 20:46 Msg:2370 Call:10004834 Lines:2
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145 does anyone call the no-name bbs?
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146 What happened to them? One day they were there and then...
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013=Usr:562 Blank Doe 09/25/88 21:11 Msg:2371 Call:10004835 Lines:5
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147 In all honesty I didn't kno Bush could look any other way....
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148
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149 NW0
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150 WWIII
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151 ^b
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014=Usr:121 Hamfred Gammidge 09/25/88 21:19 Msg:2372 Call:10004836 Lines:8
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152
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153 Hamfred again.
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154
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155 Hmmmmmm. Morpheme. I've heard it before. Lemme seee...... (I can't think
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156 sober ok?). Oh yah, isn't it a grammar thing which can't be divided into
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157 smallar parts and still have meaning? Such as "the" or 'ride'.
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158
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159 Or perhaps even 'Word Wrap'? That answer it Kerfur?
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015=Usr:113 James Of Cassand 09/25/88 22:21 Msg:2373 Call:10004837 Lines:15
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160 !!!!!@@@@@#####$$$$$+++++)))))
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161
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162 Ahm, I called around nine I believe. Next time I'm in that position I'll
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163 Pass the houner on to somone else :-)
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164
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165 Bush is a dork, That is in fact the nicest thing anyone could say about
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166 him. If he were a Democrat I would think he was a dork. I thought that Mondale
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167 was a dork.
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168
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169 Why is it that we seem to be stuck with voting for dorks or so-so's?
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170
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171 James of Cassandra.
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172 And now another wordwrap plea...
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173 !!!!!@@@@@#####$$$$$+++++)))))
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174
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016=Usr:588 Wayne S. 09/25/88 22:53 Msg:2374 Call:10004840 Lines:5
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175 'Tis a sad day on the face of this sorry continent when we choose our
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176 president by deciding on the lesser of two evils.
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177 \ /
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178 (oo)
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179 -------------------------------Signer----------------------------------
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017=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/26/88 02:15 Msg:2375 Call:10004844 Lines:8
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180 &*&*&*&*'s
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181 Indeed. I wanted Simon myself. I should have known that he didn't stand a
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182 chance...
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183
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184 An Astral Dreamer.
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185 &*&*&*&*;
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186 's
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187
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018=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON 09/26/88 10:38 Msg:2376 Call:10004850 Lines:5
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188 Dukakis Vs. Bush, who cares? Their both total idiots! Who wants a president who
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189 believes that Pearl Harbor was bombed on Sept 7th. No me! God that's pitiful
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190 I learned that in what? Fourth grade? Geez.... Wacht Doch Endlich Auf! George
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191 BUSH!
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192
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019=Usr:483 Lord Beaker 09/26/88 14:36 Msg:2377 Call:10004852 Lines:10
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193 -----====-=-------------=-========---------====-=----------=======-=========
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194 Ya know...We don't HAVE to vote for either of them. There are multitudes of
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195 independents out there. Of course if you vote for one of them instead of ag
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196 ainst Bush, he COULD (god forbid) win...shudder...the eleection. Oh I hope
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197 not. He is such a pompous rich loveing, poor drowning, ass.
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198
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199 Lord
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200 Beaker \__/
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201 oo
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202 -==-=-==-=--{=======--------=-================----=-=-------=-====---=======
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020=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/26/88 15:36 Msg:2378 Call:10004853 Lines:7
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203 &*&*&*&*'s
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204 I second that motion. Dukakis may not be brilliant, but the alternative...
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205 I have really bad feelings about Bush.
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206
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207 An Astral Dreamer.
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208 &*&*&*&*'s
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209
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021=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON 09/26/88 18:37 Msg:2379 Call:10004857 Lines:6
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210 Burp..... Brup........... Brip!.......Birp!........Borp........Brop.......Brap
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211 Barp......Berp............Brep........Bcrp.........Brcp........Boop!......?
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212
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213
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214 ----------------------->Who won the debate....... Daffy Duck in 88!<----------
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215 LALALALALAL HAY!
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022=Usr:214 The Mysterious F 09/26/88 20:13 Msg:2380 Call:10004861 Lines:7
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216 ------------------------
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217 Egads, it's scary. I shudder to think what would happen if Dukakis
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218 gets elected. Although it wouldn't be as bad as Jackson, I don't think
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219 I'd want to have to live through it. (I really hope I don't have to
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220 find out.) Bush a wimp? Not compared to Dukakis. Damn liberals ... I
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221 wish they'd all fall off the face of the earth once and for all.
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222 ------------------------ Fred?
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023=Usr:113 James Of Cassand 09/26/88 23:30 Msg:2381 Call:10004865 Lines:7
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223 !!!!!@@@@@#####$$$$$+++++)))))
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224 Gee, Why is it that conservatives just can't seem to handle the existance
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225 of Liberals? Must be thier guilty concsionce...
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226
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227 James of Cassandra.
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228 !!!!!@@@@@#####$$$$$+++++)))))
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229
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024=Usr:588 Wayne S. 09/27/88 00:05 Msg:2382 Call:10004866 Lines:5
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230 =====================================================================
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231 Scary to have Dukakis elected? Yeah... but do you really want somebody
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232 in there who sides with those wanting "Christian" control of Govern-
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233 ment?
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234 =============================Signer===================================
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025=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/27/88 01:21 Msg:2383 Call:10004868 Lines:9
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235 &*&*&*&*'s
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236 I know I don't. Religion and government should not be mixed. I will not be
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237 living in this country if they ever get control. It will be a quick trip to
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238 Canada or England for me...
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239
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240 An Astral Dreamer.
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241 &*&*&*&*'s
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242
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243
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026=Usr:588 Wayne S. 09/27/88 08:31 Msg:2384 Call:10004871 Lines:6
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244 =========================================================================
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245
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246 Agreed. When you consider the possibilities of such a condition, communist
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247 control doesn't look nearly so bad as it otherwise might.
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248
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249 =================================Signer==================================
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027=Usr:53 prince dragon 09/27/88 09:05 Msg:2385 Call:10004872 Lines:8
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250 .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-wuffa/prince dragon\.-=-.-=-.
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251 it would be much more scary for all of us if Dukakis does not get in.
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252 a "christian" government would kill the kine of things we write here.
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253 or make us pay $10 an hour to use a modom look at the U.K.
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254 it costs like 3p a min. to call a KM! no flat rate for the there.
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255 the post controls all comm/ be it tv letters phone!.
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256
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257 .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.(need a cmds on term to do this :) .-=-.-=-.
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028=Usr:598 ethan anubis 09/27/88 10:16 Msg:2386 Call:10004873 Lines:15
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258 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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259 What we really need in this country is integration of church and state like
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260 what they have in Great Britain and Israel. Unlike what were experiencing
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261 now of the society being polarized. I would say if you don't want In GOD we
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262 trust in our currency, then go someplace else where they don't even mention
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263 the thing you think is unmentionable. Look at the background of the framers
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264 of the supreme law of the land. I couldn't recall anybody of them being
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265 atheist and/or agnostic. And look at the constitution, it doesn't specifical-
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266 ly advocate any religious prohibition. It just states that CONGRESS (as oppose
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267 to PROgress) shall not enact law respecting ... As long as there is religion
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268 in the heart of people, there would be national discipline. I dont care what
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269 kind of religion we would have as long as it is not the influence of punk
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270 rockers that would dominate. Look at the degeneration of our society has been
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271 since GOD is slowly being phased out by organizaitions such as ACLU.
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272 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""Joe Anb""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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029=Usr:599 rich sichel 09/27/88 11:22 Msg:2387 Call:10004874 Lines:13
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273 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~SSSSSSSSSSSSS
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274 SIGNER: What do you want "JEWISH" control?
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275 I recall that Kitty (Mikhail's wife) is 'JAP'.
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276
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277 ASTRAL DREAMER: ) .... IF THEY GET CONTROL ..... QUICK TRIP
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278 ) TO CANADA OR ENGLAND...
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279
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280 Did you know that there's no separation of church and
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281 state in England. The head of the Church of England and
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282 the head of state is one and the same person namely:
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283 QE II.
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284 And Canadians as a group is one of the subjects of QE 2.
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285 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Rich SSSSSSS
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030=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON 09/27/88 13:30 Msg:2388 Call:10004878 Lines:17
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286 Hey Joe Anb...... You shouldn't go putting down "punk rockers" as a lot of punk
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287 happens to be highly policitally oriented & not to mention politically correct
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288 Check out a fanzine called Maximum R'N'R they've got loads and loads of punk
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289 politics.. SO the music may be noise but the people are political. Not all but
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290 a majority of them! -----> Some idiot scum who wrote this!<--------------------
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291 '
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292
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293 Hey Rich, I hope that 'jap' comment you made is not racist! ! ! ! ! If it is
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294 wake up......... Get above it!
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295
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296 Zoinks scooby how do we get out of this mess? Looks like we are going to have
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297 to kill each other. I'm starving to death. I could use a tasty dish of dog
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298 meat.... Hey I'll give ya a scooby snack!! HUH?HUH?HUH?
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299
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300
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301 UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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302 Each day we edge closer and closer to WWIII......... it will arive!
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031=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/27/88 15:08 Msg:2389 Call:10004882 Lines:18
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303 &*&*&*&*'s
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304 My, arn't we negative? Canada is a subject of Great Britain in name on
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305 they are entirly soveraign. In England you don't have to worry about fundies
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306 staring in your window at night.
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307
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308 WWIII? Try not to project your own depression onto the state of the world.
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309 Though it may be in sad shape, It is MUCH better off then it has been for
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310 all of history. Why give up when the real begining is at hand?
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311
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312 I think I recognize some of you from the Over Worked Dragon, Is this the case?
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313 If so welcome.
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314
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315 About not wanting "In God we trust" on the money. I would have no problem
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316 with it if it said "In a God we trust."
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317
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318 An Astral Dreamer.
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319 &*&*&*&*'s
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320
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032=Usr:70 Kurfur Redlig 09/27/88 15:20 Msg:2390 Call:10004883 Lines:21
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321 KKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | How does one 'win' a debate?????????????????????
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322
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323 Does he win by figuratively decapitating his opponent, or what? In any case,
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324 I think neither of em won, since they're both losers in my opinion.
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325
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326 I think that for the '88 election we should have a write in vote. I can
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327 see the headlines now:
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328
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329 "Jim's Uncle Bill win's the election with a total of 14 votes. His dog,
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330 Pug, has been given the vice presidency."
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331
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332 Anything has got to be better than what we've been offered.
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333
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334 Even Nixon. "Tanned, Ready, and Rested"
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335
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336 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Money Talks, but so do Politicianssssssssss
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337
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338 Oh, I almost forgot. Yes, Hamfred, that is the correct definition of
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339 'Morpheme'. A word with a one track mind. (very good)
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340
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341 KKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Bill and Opus, The beak and saliva tickettttttt
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033=Usr:71 David Shult 09/27/88 16:48 Msg:2391 Call:10004884 Lines:51
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342 696969696969
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343 Nomination for the "Ten Best Censored Stories of 1987"
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344
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345 OLIVER NORTH'S SECRET PLAN TO DECLARE MARTIAL LAW
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346
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347 While caught up in exposing Fawn Hall's hairstyle, Ollie North's
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348 heroic gap-toothed smile, and the soap opera ambience of the
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349 Congressional Contragate hearings, most of America's media ignored the
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350 chilling constitutional issue of Oliver North's secret plan to declare
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351 martial law.
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352 But Alfonso Chardy, of THE MIAMI HERALD, was not deluded by
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353 North's charisma nor frightened by North's earlier warning to him not
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354 to investigate the National Security Council's (NSC) connection to the
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355 Nicaraguan resistance.
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356 Unfortunately, Chardy's extraordinary disclosures about North
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357 went unexplored and unreported by other major media.
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358 On July 5, 1987, Chardy reported over the KNT News Wire that
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359 Marine Lt. Col. Oliver North helped draft a plan in 1984 to impose
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360 martial law in the United States in event of an emergency.
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361 According to Chardy, the secret plan called for suspension of the
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362 Constitution, turning control of the government over to the
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363 little-known Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), appointment
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364 of military commanders to run state and local governments, and the
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365 declaration of martial law in the event of such a crisis as nuclear
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366 war, violent and widespread internal dissent or national opposition to
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367 a U.S. military invasion abroad.
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368 North helped draft the plan to impose martial law while serving
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369 as the NSC's laiason to FEMA. Chardy reported that an administration
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370 official said the contingency plan was written as part of an executive
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371 order or legislative package that Reagan would sign and hold within
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372 NSC until such time as a severe crisis arose. "It is not known whether
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373 Reagan signed the plan," Chardy added.
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374 The plan was extraordinary enough to even frighten then-Attorney
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375 General William French Smith into protesting to Robert McFarlane,
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376 North's NSC boss at the time, that FEMA was establishing itself as an
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377 "emergency czar" and "exceeding its proper function as a coordinating
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378 agency for emergency preparedness."
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379 This secret plan to declare martial law in the event of internal
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380 dissent or national opposition to a U.S. military invasion abroad took
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381 on an added dimension as citizens gathered to protest the nation's
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382 intervention in Honduras in March, 1988.
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383
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384 SOURCES: KNT NEWS WIRE, 7/5/87, "North linked to plan for
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385 martial law," by Alfonso Chardy, p A1, SAN RAFAEL (CA) INDEPENDENT
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386 JOURNAL; THE NATION, 8/1/87, "Minority Report," by Christopher
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387 Hitchens, p 80.
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388
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389 696969696969696969
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390
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391
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392
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034=Usr:588 Wayne S. 09/27/88 17:40 Msg:2392 Call:10004886 Lines:11
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393
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394 ==============================================================================
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395
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396 I don't much care what religion any politician is: Christian, Moslem, Agnostic,
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397 or Pagan. It scares me when Reagan says to the Moral Majority that if they
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398 get a religious bill through Congress, he'll sign it. With the majority of
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399 Supreme Court justices being conservatives, and having several who oppose the
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400 idea of separation of church and state, I see a potential of something as bad
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401 politically in this country as The Bomb is physically.
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402 ====================================Signer===================================
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403
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035=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/27/88 18:43 Msg:2393 Call:10004888 Lines:8
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404 &*&*&*&*'s
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405 I agree. One of the ironies of government seems to be that for the most part
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406 only the mentally unstable make it to the top. Most peaple just aren't that
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407 obsesive about these sorts of things.
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408
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409 An Astral Dreamer.
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410 &*&*&*&*'s
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411
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036=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL 09/27/88 20:00 Msg:2394 Call:10004889 Lines:9
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412 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@USER twoeightythree!#######################
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413 I think this candidate thing is pretty stupid, right?
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414 But why in the heck are any of us voting? It will do no good!
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415 there isn't one 'competent' candidate that 'has a chance.' it
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416 is pretty ridiculous if you ask me...
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417
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418 Word Wrap!Word Wrap!Word Wrap!Word Wrap!Word Wrap!Word Wrap!Word Wrap!
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419 KILLWAFERSKILLWAFERSKILLWAFERSKILLWAFERSKILLWAFERSKILLWAFERS
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420 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Twofer Tuesday Night###################
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037=Usr:214 The Mysterious F 09/27/88 20:47 Msg:2395 Call:10004892 Lines:12
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421 --------------------------
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422 Yeah, OK. So George Bush isn't the ideal candidate. But when I think
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423 about Dukakis, I get a mental image of the Carter years. And if THAT
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424 isn't enough to make one a devout Republican, I don't know what is.
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425
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426 As for religions, I don't think anything will ever happen that will
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427 violate the separation of church and state clause. There are too many
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428 people who would scream bloody murder. And when it comes to morals,
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429 it doesn't take religion to create them. I happen to be one of the
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430 most convinced atheists that I've ever met. And I have pretty high
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431 moral standards without having a "god" to scare them into me.
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432 --------------------------- Fred?
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038=Usr:483 Lord Beaker 09/27/88 21:06 Msg:2396 Call:10004893 Lines:34
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433 ----=-=========-=----------==-======-=-========-=----------=-=======-----
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434 oops...
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435
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436 I agree, sort of. I personaly need no god to force, scare, or threaten me
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437 into maintaning a set of desent moral standards. If you do...feel free to
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438 believe in what you need, or want as the case may be. But keep in mind that
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439 I too, even without this belief, am a member of the United State of America.
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440 Yet I am not saying our currency should say "There is no God to trust in!".
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441 I only want the government to stay as neutral in the matter as possible.
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442 Not holding one view point...or the other. This is somehow the way I
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443 envision the seperation of church and state.
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444
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445 ...
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446 Wow, I think I'm sorry I ever mentioned poluhtiks on this board. Big
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447 mistake. Hey people...wouldn't itt make more sense to decide wether you
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448 like a candadate for there abilities and ideas, and then find out what party
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449 they are from. No one wants to vote for a Liberal or a Conservative. So
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450 who's left? Got me.
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451
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452 ...
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453 Hey I noticed most of us people here on the West Coast have been missing out
|
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454 on something BIG. It's called mischeff night. It happens to be the night
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455 before Halloween (How perfect). What you do is basicaly think up an
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||
456 ingeenious prank (Tyeing two garbage can lids, across the street from each
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457 other, to each other. Then watch when a car drives by. (This prank not
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458 recommended for those living near a freeway or owner of a brand new Porche))
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459 to pull on people. It seems this day is a regular happening on the East
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460 coast. Just thought I'd fill you all in...
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461
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462 Lord Beaker \__/
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463 7''abernacky oo
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464 -=-====-{=-=-----=-==-----=-==-==-=-=----=-=======----------=-===========---
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465 oops!
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466
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039=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/27/88 21:49 Msg:2397 Call:10004894 Lines:10
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467 &*&*&*&*'s
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468 The crack about Dukakis is not really a very good one. When I think of Bush I
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469 get a flashpresent to the Reagan years. Thinking of them is enough to make
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470 anyone a confirmed Democrat. It sure as hell did me. I was actually leaning
|
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471 towards Republicanism. Boy, was I wrong!
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472
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473 An Astral Dreamer.
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474 &*&*&*&*'s
|
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475
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476
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040=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 09/28/88 01:00 Msg:2398 Call:10004902 Lines:5
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477 ************************************************************************
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478 Ahh, debatable debates... And so the wheel turns.
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479 ****************************** CM **************************************
|
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480
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481
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041=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/28/88 01:19 Msg:2399 Call:10004904 Lines:2
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482 BT!
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483
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042=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 09/28/88 04:15 Msg:2400 Call:10004907 Lines:66
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484
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485 {}
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486
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487 Disappointment.
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488
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489 Liberal! Conservative! Democratic! Republican! Independent!
|
||
490 Libertarian! Communist! Democracy! Socialist!
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491
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492 What a bunch of... confused but nice people.
|
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493
|
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494 There is NO answer to the political question. Politics is a matter of
|
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495 power, not of state. Harumf! Even the 'state' steals, and yet it
|
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496 detains those who do the very same thing! What a set of double-standards!
|
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497 (And I thought I was bad...)
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498
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499 I'm gonna say this ONE LAST TIME:
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500
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501 There is NO form of 'polictical state' that can meet the demands of
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502 any people. The best form of control is SELF-CONTROL; as you mind your
|
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503 own business, so does everyone else. You don't need a "XR7000 Big Brother
|
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504 Spy-Eye" over your shoulder to see what you're reading. Basically,
|
||
505 politics and government are complex but serious POWER TRIPS. Government
|
||
506 wasn't created to protect the people from themselves (as the state would
|
||
507 like to have you to believe) - it was ORIGINALLY created for some
|
||
508 TWIT (not unlike the one's we've had in the past) who just HAD TO HAVE
|
||
509 his/her STINK'N FINGERS ON EVERYTHING! Someone said, 'gee, if I
|
||
510 terrorize the people, and then make them attack/defend/vex themselves
|
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511 rather than me, I would be able to have control over them!'
|
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512
|
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513 ANARCHY is not a solution
|
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514 ANARCHISM could be a solution - there is a BIG difference in what the
|
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515 words mean, reguardless of context! Don't confuse them!
|
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516
|
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517 The best religion is PERSONAL AND PRIVATE religion. To say anything
|
||
518 else would be to discredit that religion! I'll try and make this as
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519 simple as possible; So, let's say you'll be saved/lifted up/absorbed
|
||
520 by the great nothing/reincarnated/recycled/stuck in h*ll/etc. etc. etc.
|
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521 SO WHAT?!? If you KNOW you're going to be 'saved', then why worry about
|
||
522 everyone else's religions? After all, in THEIR eyes, they will be
|
||
523 'saved', and not YOU. If you can't except that, then you are not
|
||
524 a member of a religion - you are a member of a CULT! And that is what
|
||
525 a cult is - a following in a belief that revolves around building that
|
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526 following! I know some 'Christians' will jump on my case about
|
||
527 spreading their beliefs, but then again, my 'religion' says I
|
||
528 don't have to worry about that now, does it? Same goes for EVERYONE-
|
||
529 especially ME!
|
||
530
|
||
531 - and what that means is I am voiceing my OPINION, and you are in
|
||
532 no way obligated to agree, accept, or even attempt to understand what
|
||
533 I have said. Opinions are great, and they are personally important to
|
||
534 me. But the absolute 'word' from someone or something just doesn't cut
|
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535 it. Life isn't static; it has been and always will be DYNAMIC!
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536
|
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537 So voice your opinions, but don't stick it down my throat!
|
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538
|
||
539 *** end of soapbox yelling ***
|
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540
|
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541 Now, what happened to all of those Smurf Bars... hmm...
|
||
542
|
||
543 Hagbard Celine
|
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544
|
||
545 - yes, that was me on NAG. I drop in about every other night or
|
||
546 so, so leave a message! Ask about the PDP (you'll have to guess ;-)
|
||
547 that I'm working on (hint: the last 'p' means Project)
|
||
548
|
||
549 {}
|
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043=Usr:539 Renee Holmes 09/28/88 06:31 Msg:2401 Call:10004909 Lines:10
|
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550 *************************** 28 SEPT ********************************
|
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551 Wow a lot has happened since I was on last.....
|
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552 Dear "soapbox yelling" I have to agree with a LOT of what you have
|
||
553 to say, if more people minded their own business. Just like
|
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554 censorship, I know what my "own community standard" is, and when it
|
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555 crosses that, I don't read it, buy it, or go to a movie and see it.
|
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556
|
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557 -Renee-
|
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558
|
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559 ***********************************************************************
|
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044=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON 09/28/88 10:04 Msg:2402 Call:10004914 Lines:13
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560 Anarchy in my opinion will never happen. It wouldn't work. Then there's the
|
||
561 stupid philosophy of Peace & Anarchy. How can one have peace with Anarchy? No
|
||
562 way. It's bad enough with a democracy trying to reach peace! I seriously doubt
|
||
563 that peace is possible either! Maybe in some parts of the world but never in
|
||
564 such places as Middle-eastern countries couldn't possibly reach peace. They've
|
||
565 been fighting for years. It might be possible for Iran and Iraq to reach a
|
||
566 treaty but for how long?
|
||
567 ----------------BLAH----------------A confused Brat----------------------------
|
||
568
|
||
569 ZOINKS! UNLE SCOOBY WHERE'S FRED? !!!!!! I NEED A SCOOBY SNACK!!!!! THAT'S
|
||
570 RIGHT! SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBY DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
|
||
571
|
||
572 What's blue & creamy? ----------------------------------->Smurf cum!
|
||
045=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/28/88 12:06 Msg:2403 Call:10004916 Lines:18
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573 &*&*&*&*'s
|
||
574 Smurfs's? Hmm, I wonder how they reproduce. Must be the stork or somthing.
|
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575
|
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576 Hagbard, I tend to agree with you. It is to bad that more peaple don't feel
|
||
577 this way. At the same time I would say that anarchy is nice, but would not
|
||
578 work at this time. (That is anarchy in it's purest sense, Not what most peaple
|
||
579 think of it as.)
|
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580
|
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581 I am leaning towards the democrats because of Reagan. I figure whom ever
|
||
582 profeses to be on the opposing side should be given a chance. I don't hold
|
||
583 out much hope, But I have to vote for somebody.
|
||
584
|
||
585 I'll drop you a note on NAG. Since I ussually call at around 2am I get on
|
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586 about every day.
|
||
587
|
||
588 An Astral eamer.
|
||
589 &*&*&*&*'s
|
||
590
|
||
046=Usr:588 Wayne S. 09/28/88 13:48 Msg:2404 Call:10004921 Lines:16
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591 ============================================================================
|
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592
|
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593 LORD BEAKER: I don't need any god to force, scare, coerce, or otherwise
|
||
594 make me do something. But I appreciate a God who will be a
|
||
595 constant companion with me wherever I go.
|
||
596
|
||
597 HAGBARD: You think all religion should be personal and private--
|
||
598 agreed. If I found a gas station selling gas at $.25/gal.,
|
||
599 it would be remiss of me not to tell you what I found. How-
|
||
600 ever, I draw the line at putting a gun to your head and
|
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601 forcing you to drive down and buy some. Same with religion.
|
||
602 I want to tell everyone I meet about what I've found, but
|
||
603 the idea of force-feeding anything to anyone turns my
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604 stomach. (Pun intended).
|
||
605
|
||
606 =========================================Signer===========================
|
||
047=Usr:483 Lord Beaker 09/28/88 15:17 Msg:2405 Call:10004922 Lines:9
|
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607 =-=--------=-===========-=----------=-==========-=--------========-=========
|
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608 Signer, point well put and taken. In both your message to Hgbrd and myself.
|
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609 You seem to see thiings quit clearly.
|
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610
|
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611 Hgbrd, excelent preaching...I couldn't agree more.
|
||
612
|
||
613 Lord Beaker \__/
|
||
614 7''abernacky oo
|
||
615 --=-=-=-=-=---{-=---------=-==========-=-------------=-==================---
|
||
048=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/28/88 17:23 Msg:2406 Call:10004932 Lines:15
|
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616 &*&*&*&*'s
|
||
617 I agree to a large extent with your point's Signer. I would say however that
|
||
618 not everyone needs a constant companion. I will admit that I do not fall into
|
||
619 this catagory.
|
||
620
|
||
621 BUT, If God is not thinking of me every minute that does no bother me either.
|
||
622 I work towards inner peace. The I assume God will not have to worry about me to
|
||
623 much.
|
||
624
|
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625 An Astral Dreamer.
|
||
626 P.S.
|
||
627 Love of God is fine, But you MUST love yourself as well!
|
||
628
|
||
629 &*&*&*&*'s
|
||
630
|
||
049=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL 09/28/88 19:31 Msg:2407 Call:10004933 Lines:20
|
||
631 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@User twoeightythree#####################################
|
||
632 Hello, this is an EAGLE computer...
|
||
633 hehehe...
|
||
634 Word Wrap!Word Wrap!Word Wrap!Word Wrap!
|
||
635 KGON welcomes the scorpions Rocktober 10th..... Can't Live! Can't Live
|
||
636 withoutcha!
|
||
637 KILLWAFERSKILLWAFERSKILLWAFERSKILLWAFERSKILLWAFERSKILLWAFERS
|
||
638
|
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639 KGON ROCKS!KGON ROCKS!KGON ROCKS!KGON ROCKS!KGON ROCKS!KGON ROCKS!
|
||
640
|
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641
|
||
642 Def Leppard! Def Leppard! BE THERE.
|
||
643
|
||
644
|
||
645 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Wednesday!########################
|
||
646
|
||
647
|
||
648 When Passion Rules AGAIN!
|
||
649 Yeah Yeah...
|
||
650
|
||
050=Usr:562 Blank Doe 09/28/88 20:38 Msg:2408 Call:10004935 Lines:13
|
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651
|
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652 THIS IS WORLD WATCH THREE>>>>>>>>>>
|
||
653
|
||
654 Why is anarchy associated with violance. My understanding of anarchy has
|
||
655 always been peacfull, my definition has always been 'A society with no laws and
|
||
656 no government, as none are needed. A society inwich all people are governed by
|
||
657 morality, not force.' As you can see, I do believe in a peacfull, anarchistic
|
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658 society.
|
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659 With my two cents, I'm blank doe.
|
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660
|
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661 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ww3
|
||
662 anarchists unite!
|
||
663 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Nw0
|
||
051=Usr:483 Lord Beaker 09/28/88 20:54 Msg:2409 Call:10004936 Lines:7
|
||
664 -----=-===========-=----------=-=========-=-----------=-========-=--------=-
|
||
665 Anarchists unite? Is that legal. I mean are they still anarchists if they
|
||
666 unite? Were talking technical definitions here. Sorry....I'll go away now.
|
||
667
|
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668 LB\__/
|
||
669 oo
|
||
670 -=--{------===-=---=-====-==-=--====-=-=-----==--=--==-=-=---====-=------===
|
||
052=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON 09/28/88 21:42 Msg:2410 Call:10004938 Lines:30
|
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671 GOOD GOD SCOOOOOOOOOOBY Where's dafny & Fred or what ever the hell their names
|
||
672 are................ ZOINKS! ANARCHY? SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBY DOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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673
|
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674 ----------------->And now for something completly different!<---------------
|
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675
|
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676 @=Anarchy!
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677 S=Scooby DOO!
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678
|
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679 Senator hart humped a dumpling!
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680 Hart you're a dope
|
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681 Hart get a life
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682 You should know better than to cheat on your wife
|
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683
|
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684 Hart you're a slime
|
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685 Hart you're a slob
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||
686 And you screwed your self right outta job!
|
||
687 Senator hart humped a dumpling!-STIKKY!
|
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688 Good God are those stupid German rockers the Scorpions coming to town? Why do
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||
689 these Top 40 bands still exist! C'mon listen to something alternative!? How
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||
690 bout it!
|
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691
|
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692 "The world today seems absolutely crackers"
|
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693 "with nuclear bombs to blow us all sky high"
|
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694 "There's fools & idiots roaming the street"
|
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695 "and that's why........................."
|
||
696 "I like chineese.....etc.................."
|
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697
|
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698 Smurfs unite-Smurfs Unite! Smurf Anarchy rules! More Smurfpolitics. Oh not
|
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699 to mention SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBY DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!I'm gone
|
||
700 Bo duke turns me on! Them dukes them dukes!
|
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053=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 09/28/88 23:29 Msg:2411 Call:10004942 Lines:3
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701 **********************************************************
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702 A small blue Stork? Nah... must have been a Blue bird.
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703 **********************************************************
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054=Usr:70 Kurfur Redlig 09/28/88 23:37 Msg:2412 Call:10004943 Lines:9
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704 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Politicians in the woodsssssssssssss
|
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705
|
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706 Yes, I think that in the up and coming election, with suck bland choices
|
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707 that we're going to get a record voter turnout of maybe 8 people out of
|
||
708 a hundred.
|
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709
|
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710 How about anachronism? We're talking extremely reactionary here.
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711
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712 KKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Random choice for president!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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055=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 09/29/88 00:04 Msg:2413 Call:10004944 Lines:40
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713
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714 {}
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715
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716 To those who choose ANARCHY - anarchy is chaos.
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717
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718 To those who choose ANARCHISM - anarchism is to live without government
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719 by any means or form. The only reason I brought up anarchism is that
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720 it seems to be the only word that describes what I see; still, it does not
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721 come close at all. I like the gas alegory - very good! If people would
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722 merely respect other people's religions, rather than try to convert them,
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723 I think that Iran and Iraq would stop fighting for the first time in
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724 EONS. I myself am a self-procliamed agnostic - if you can prove to me
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725 that a peticular religion is true, then I would consider joining. (maybe
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726 I should say self-styled, instead...)
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727
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728 But, even though I am agnostic, it does not mean that I can't
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729 participate in a religious setting (unless that religion
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730 refuses activities by 'outsiders'). If you are Christian, then I will
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731 try to keep a Christian frame of mind to relate to those around me. If
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732 you are Shinto, then I will observe Shinto practices at a prayer temple.
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733 You might say that ALL religions are true in my eyes - except the ones
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734 that seem cult-like.
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735
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736 Here's a brain teaser...does the 'state' REALLY EXIST? See if
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737 you can understand this one...
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738
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739 I'm not voting. Why should I? I can persue my own form of
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740 government without interfereing with those around me...
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741
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742 * * *
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743
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744 (puff)
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745
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746 I hovered at the bar.
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747
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748 'Barkeep, an ale. Prepare several more... I expect visitors...'
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749
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750 Hagbard Celine.
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751
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752 {}
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056=Usr:588 Wayne S. 09/29/88 07:53 Msg:2414 Call:10004949 Lines:12
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753 =======================================================================
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754
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755 Anarchism would seem the way to go on the surface. The problem is, you
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756 are counting on everyone to act "morally". What is morally? During
|
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757 the Dark Ages, the Catholic Church decided what was moral. Now, nobody
|
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758 knows what is moral. What society then does is make laws concerning
|
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759 what is moral, then metes out punishment to those who don't conform.
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760 But as people begin to conform more and more together, the ones who are
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761 different stick out more and more, so laws are needed to bring those
|
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762 into line... talk about a vicious circle.
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763
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764 ====================================Signer=============================
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057=Usr:598 ethan anubis 09/29/88 08:48 Msg:2415 Call:10004952 Lines:6
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765 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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766 Incidentally Mqcsashussets Governor Dukakis in 1977 when I was living
|
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767 in Boston issued a proclamation honoring two pre-war anarchist convicted
|
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768 and executed (electrocuted) in 1937 for robbery and murder! Now we have
|
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769 a presidential candidate who loves anarshy!
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770 """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Joe Anb"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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058=Usr:483 Lord Beaker 09/29/88 14:25 Msg:2416 Call:10004960 Lines:6
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771 ------=-=====-=---------=-======-=--------=-==========-=----------=-========
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772 Um...Oh nuveb0mind!
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773
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774 LB\__/
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775 oo
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776 =--=--{=---========-============-=---------==-===============-=--===========
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059=Usr:96 Steve LaPlante 09/29/88 17:35 Msg:2417 Call:10004963 Lines:10
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777
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778 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^N^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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779 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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780 TRINE
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781
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782 Power to the people. Let there be disorder rampant? As long as I can
|
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783 grab a0auisk one at Coconuts.
|
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784 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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785 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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786
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060=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/29/88 18:14 Msg:2418 Ca|l:10 04964 Lines:14
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787 &*&*&*&*'s
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788
|
||
789 Well, Gee, Hmmmmmmmmm. (Whoops, Key stuck!)
|
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790
|
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791 The wanderer sat at his table eating his meal and conversing with the strage
|
||
792 fellow who had arrived only recently. Suddenly Hagbard appeared in dxe bom and
|
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793 ordered drinks for all.
|
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794
|
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795 "Hagbard, Long time no see! I hear you are contemplating a temporal adjustment.
|
||
796 Is this this true?"
|
||
797
|
||
798 An Astral Dreamer.
|
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799 &*&*&*&*'s
|
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800
|
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061=Usr:100 Ben Davis 09/29/88 20:%0 Msg:2419 Call:10004969 Lines:10
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801 c>D>C>D>>D>C>D>C>D>C>D>C>
|
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802 Who said that government was a power trip? It might BE for some people but
|
||
803 thats not what it IS. Government is a means which by people organize to
|
||
804 accomplish a task that0gou|d otherwise be to monumental for only one. Freeways
|
||
805 for example. And why are people allways arguing politics and religeon in the
|
||
806 same sentance? They arn't supposed to by the same thing I thing.
|
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807
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808 Fill the Disk!
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809@Ca
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810 Camp Director
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062=Usr:214 The Mysterious F 09/29/88 21:29 Msg:2420 Call:10004970 Lines:56
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811 -----------------------
|
||
812 Did somebody say Fred? Here I am.
|
||
813
|
||
814 First, a joke. How do Smurfs reproduce? With bags over their heads.
|
||
815 Ok, sorby, it wasn't that funny.
|
||
816
|
||
817 There are too many dishonest/immoral/whatever-you-want-to-call-it
|
||
818 people in this world for anarchism to ever work. Once you accept that,
|
||
819 government becomes a whole lot less annoying.
|
||
820
|
||
821 Since I don't have anything better to do, I'll expound on Fred's personal
|
||
822 views of life, the universe, and pantyhose:
|
||
823
|
||
824 I don't want, you, my mother, or anyone else making my moral decisions
|
||
825 for me, as long as what I choose to do doesn't hurt anyo~e e|ce. That
|
||
826 means that I think my pornography pile should be legal. It means
|
||
827 abortion should be legal. It doesn't mean drugs should be illegal, since
|
||
828 there's a major chance of a drug user harming someone else. (I feel the
|
||
829 same way aboet alcohol, but that's already proven not to work.)
|
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830
|
||
831 I think womens liberation sucks little pickles, even though I believe in
|
||
832 equal rights for everone. I do NOT believe in affirmative action and all
|
||
833 the other force-em-to-be-given-prefurential-treatment-type-bullshit. It's
|
||
834 no better than discrimination. Ideally, any decisions should be 100%
|
||
835 race/gender/sexual-preference blind. But I realize that will never happen,
|
||
836 so I only get pissed about it occasionally.
|
||
837
|
||
838 I'm not a conservative, and I'm not a liberal. My leanings are towards
|
||
839 conservatism and republicanism, however. (I don't believe in all of the
|
||
840 democratic do-gooder social programs, or protectionist trade policies,
|
||
841 or santa claus. Smetymes I don't even believe in my shift key.) I
|
||
842 believe heavily in the separation of church and state. It pisses me off
|
||
843 to say, "one nation under god."
|
||
844
|
||
845 Speaking of god, I'm an atheist. And I think that atheists are one of the
|
||
(46 most picked on minority groups in the country. We get bombarded by
|
||
847 religion at every turn. I'm willing to listen (with an open mind) to you
|
||
848 tell me why you believe your religion is true. I expect you to do the
|
||
849 same. I want to see co}pabqtive religion classes taught in public
|
||
850 (high) schools. But only in terms of "This is what some people believe.
|
||
851 It's not necessarily true." I don't believe in censorship of any type.
|
||
852
|
||
853 I think Jesse Jackson should be strung up by xis 7nads. Of course, I
|
||
854 really don't, since it's only because of my personal differences with
|
||
855 his opinions. But it's definitely an amusing idea nonetheless.
|
||
856
|
||
857 I don't believe that anybody really gives a shit about anything I've
|
||
858 zest0caid. Of course, I'm probably wrong. I also don't believe that
|
||
859 I have the right to fill up the whole disk (although I don't worry
|
||
860 about it because the software won't let me. Good job, Mikey.)
|
||
861
|
||
862 I believe I'll go now.
|
||
863 ------=---------------- Fred?
|
||
864 Oops, I forgot pantyhose! I don't like them.
|
||
865 I'm really going now.
|
||
866 ----------------------- Fred?
|
||
063=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 09/29/88 22:35 Msg:2421 Call:10004973 Lines:3
|
||
867 **************************************:***:****************************
|
||
868 Is anyone else starting to get as bored as me?
|
||
869 ***********************************************************************
|
||
064=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/29/88 23:11 Msg:2422 Call:10004976 Lines:33
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870 &*&*&*&*'s
|
||
871 Me Bored? Never. I do think we need a new subject though. Politics is heavy.
|
||
872 But it is necassary that we discuss it. Since we have, How about moving onto
|
||
873 lighter subjects? (For awhile anyway.)
|
||
874
|
||
875 Hmm, WordWrap? Not new enough.
|
||
8'6 0
|
||
877 Fill the Disk? Hmm, an old Idea but a good one... I suppose this one will take
|
||
878 care of itself.
|
||
879
|
||
880 Oh well, I guess somebody else can come up with somthing.
|
||
881
|
||
882 Ah yes, I almost forgot. Abortion is a definate gray area in yer definition
|
||
883 o what is right or wrong. You are assuming that the unborn child is not a
|
||
884 pearson and therefore has no rights. I tend to believe that the unborn
|
||
885 child is a person and therefor has rights.
|
||
886
|
||
887 I have no religios reason vor this. It just seems wrong to me to kill unborn
|
||
888 children.
|
||
889
|
||
890 Now I did say it was a gray area. It also could be argued that a woman has a
|
||
891 right to do with her body as she choses. Of course I think that trying
|
||
892 to avoid consequencus ov actions is bad in any case. (Meaning that pregnancy
|
||
893 doesn't just happen.)
|
||
894
|
||
895 It really boils down to wether you believe the fetus to be a person. I do.
|
||
896 I have no choice but to take the stand I have taken. I am open to argument.
|
||
89'
|
||
898 Gee, a topic. Things are getting a bit heavy around here.
|
||
899
|
||
900 An Astral Dreamer.
|
||
901 &*&*&*&*'s
|
||
902
|
||
065=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 09/29/88 23:36 Msg:2423 Call:10004977 Lines:69
|
||
903 {}
|
||
904
|
||
905 To be technical, abortion is not for me to decide upon - it should
|
||
906 be left to those whom it affects. I don't have a problem with people
|
||
907 for or against abortions; I prefer to be neutral about it. What I
|
||
908 would like to see is less pressure on the Teen-Age community from Ade|ts
|
||
909 in obtaining birth control (that is, if it fits their belief system -
|
||
910 not everyone believes in birth control. Personally, I do...) If
|
||
911 contraceptives were made availible at this level, it would have the
|
||
912 opposite affect of that whicx evuryone is afraid of. Taking birth
|
||
913 control away from the nation's youth WILL NOT STOP THEM FROM DOING
|
||
914 THINGS when the parents leave the house...they'll go ahead and do
|
||
915 it anyway. If this is the case, and I know it to be so, then why
|
||
91& d Adults take great measures in removing birth control? Are they
|
||
917 afraid that their 'poor little darlings' will learn abit more than
|
||
918 the birds and the bees? If that's so, then we're still in the
|
||
919 sexual dark ages - and I've got news for them about the 4th grader
|
||
920 who comprehends what it is before they reach the Sex-Ed classes in
|
||
921 Jr High...makes me wonder how the Earth has manageto keep itself
|
||
922 together without falling on its face.
|
||
923
|
||
924 * * *
|
||
925
|
||
926 Wonderer gqs cytting nearby, greeting me.
|
||
927
|
||
928 "Nope. It's just the calm before the storm. Besides, there
|
||
929 seems to be a problem in another multiverse on a small computer system
|
||
930 that I can't exactly place. It seems as if it creates problems
|
||
9#1 in0this place. Too bad, isn't it?"
|
||
932
|
||
933 The barkeep returned, with some beers on a serveing (sp) (ack!)
|
||
934 platter. To his annoyance, I levitated a beer to Wonderer, being
|
||
935 careful not to let the suds run over until it landed on the tarle.>.
|
||
936
|
||
937 "Where are the others?" (grumble, grumble) "Will they return,
|
||
938 or will they be summoned? I personally dislike summoning...say,
|
||
939 I know! Maybe if I sent some beer to Kurfur, he would come of
|
||
940 his own free will. Give me q moment to make a small portal" as
|
||
941 I strained to open a passage to Kurfur's home, and the sweat
|
||
942 started to pour. Never had it been so hard to pry apart Beta Space...
|
||
943 as if something was still out there, trying to hold eternity in its
|
||
944 grip.0 I saw Kurfur, along with some others, and promptly put the
|
||
945 Stein in his hand when he raised it. Although he was a little startled,
|
||
946 I'm sure he caught the message I had sent. There was a merry gleam
|
||
947 in his eye as he read:
|
||
948
|
||
949 0 [0COMPLEMENTS OF THE FRIENDLY GURU. WANT MORE? TRY THE INN...]
|
||
950
|
||
951 Then I closed Beta Space, then the Eye, and returned to the
|
||
952 Inn's friendly surroundings. The Barkeep didn't look to happy -
|
||
953 he remembered the last time Kurfur sxowet. Nearly went 'damn broke
|
||
954 trying to keep him satisfied...at least that's the vibes I got from
|
||
955 the poor, red-faced, unhappy barkeep.
|
||
956
|
||
957 "Say, maybe we could make the Inn a purely material place- ya know,
|
||
958 bind it to Beta Spacu for easy travel & security. It would be a
|
||
959 welcome place for the tired, hurt, hungry, and the lonely searching
|
||
960 for friendship. Could it be done?" I knew it would take great
|
||
961 effort to transport the place, maybe all of my strength, but it guld
|
||
962 be worth it to have a 'safe house' for those to come to when life
|
||
963 wouldn't allow them a 'time-out'. (Sit and wait,) I thought.
|
||
964
|
||
965
|
||
966 The disk is for the honored to fill. May Lord Beaker fill the
|
||
967 top space as he wished.0 I qm merely a young man observing life.
|
||
968
|
||
969 Hagbard Celine
|
||
970
|
||
971 {}
|
||
066=Usr:588 Wayne S. 09/30/88 00:15 Msg:2424 Call:10004978 Lines:28
|
||
972
|
||
973 =======================================================================
|
||
9740
|
||
9'5 Camp Director: The reason you seem to see religion and politics
|
||
976 mentioned in the same breath is there is a concerted
|
||
977 effort being put forth right now upon politicians
|
||
978 to relax somu of dhe rigidness of separation of the
|
||
979 two. (Wow! Did that make sense?) There is being put
|
||
980 into place a network of churches with committees who
|
||
981 will be sending telegrams to politicians co~ceb~ing
|
||
982 bills in Congress. If a few hundred letters and tele-
|
||
983 grams can make a Congressperson to change his/her vote,
|
||
984 imagine 2,000-3,000 people all registering the same
|
||
985 0 pinion. There may be a majority the other way, but
|
||
986 that group is not so nearly well organized!
|
||
987
|
||
988
|
||
989 Fred?: You are an atheist, but you will keep an open mind to any-
|
||
990 one who can prove theyb ruligion. That's rather contradict-
|
||
991 ory as religion is an act of faith. See, believing that the
|
||
992 universe fell together, and life just happened is like my
|
||
993 that if you put all the pieces of a Timex watch in a dryer
|
||
994 and let it tumble for a hundred million years, someday it
|
||
995 would all fall together and keep perfect time. It is much
|
||
996 easier to believe in Someone who created this place purposely
|
||
997 0 than for me to believe all this was accidental. Both are
|
||
998 acts of faith -- noone was here when it started.
|
||
999 ================================Signer=====================================
|