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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
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2 ************************ INSTALLED: 9 NOV 85 ************************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
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6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 no restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is
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10 privately owned, I retain thepright to remove any and all messages which
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11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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13 to leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the
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14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the
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15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace
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16 The line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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18 *************************************************************************
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19
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20 Hmmmm..... I've never been one to resist temptation....
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21
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22 AT THE TOP!
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23
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24 Dr. Frankenstupe
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25 +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_
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26
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27 A DAY IN THE LIFE- LAST WEEK I DISCOVERED THAT WE ARE SHARING OUR HOUSE
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28 WITH MEESES. I WAS ON MY WAY TO RAID THE KITCHEN AND THERE THEY WERE ON
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29 THE FLOOR, JUST STARING AT ME. WELL, I DON'T KNOW AOUT YOU, BUT I'D JUST
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30 AS SOON NOT HAVE MEESES. APPARENTLY THEY HAD THE SAME IDEA AS I, FORAGING
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31 FOR FOOD. I IMMEDIATELY ORDERED THEM TO PACK UP ANDGET OUT, BUT THE LITTLE
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32 BUGGERS JUST TWITCHED THEIR LITTLE NOSES AT ME, AND DISAPPEARED BEHIND
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33 THE STOVE, NARROWLY AVERTING THE JAR OF ADAMS NATURAL (CRUNCHY) PEANUT
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34 BUTTER I THREW AT THEM. WELL, MICE LIKE PEANUT BUTTER, SO THIS IS NOT A
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35 GOOD WAY TO GET RID OF THEM.
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36 THAT NIGHT BEFORE I WENT TO SLEEP, I PLOTTED AGAINST THEM. NEXT DAY
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37 I WENT OUT AND BOUGHT MOUSE TRAPS. GARDEN VARIETY 69 CENT WOOLWORTHS MOUSE
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38 TRAPS. THREE DAYS, SEVERAL STUNG FINGERS AND FOUR AND A HALF POUNDS OF
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39 TILLAMOOK LATER, I REALIZED THIS WOULDN'T WORK. MEESES ARE WISE TO THIS
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40 OLD TRICK. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THEY MADE A CATAPULT FROM ONE OF THEM, AND
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41 WHEN I'D GO TO THE KITCHEN DURING A LATE NIGHT MUNCHIES ATTACK, THEY'D
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42 START LOBBING OLIVES AT ME. VERY OLD OLIVES THEY FOUND UNDER THE FRIJ.
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43 YUCK. SO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. MICE, I REASONED, ARE AFRAID OF CATS
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44 RIGHT? SO, I'D GET A CAT. WELL..., CATS ARE LIKE COPS. YOU NEVER CAN FIND
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45 ONE WHEN YOU NEED THEM. NOW THERE MUST BE A FEW STRAYS AROUND, SO I DECIDED
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46 TO GO LOOKING FOR ONE. AFTER ABOUT AN HOUR, I STARTED THINKING, I PROBABLY
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47 SHOULDN'T HAVE BROUGHT THE DOG. WELL, BY THE TIME I GOT BACK HOME, I WAS
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48 BURNED OUT ON THAT IDEA.
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49 WE HAVE THESE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE A CAT, BUT SOMEHOW I COULDN'T SEE MY SELF
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50 GOING OVER THERE AND SAYING, HI!, UM, COULD I BORROW YOUR CAT...
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51 THERE ARE PLACES LISTED IN THE YELLOW PAGES THAT CLAIM TO RENT ANYTHING.
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52 THEY LIE. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT SOME OF THEM WERE DOWNRIGHT RUDE.
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53 ESPECIALLY THE GUY AT U-HAUL WHO APPARENTLY MISUNDERSTOOD ME.
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54 THE PHONE NUMBER HE GAVE ME WAS FOR AN ALL NIGHT BOOK STORE AND MASSAGE
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55 PARLOR. BY THEN, I WAS TOO BEAT TO CONTINUE, SO I CRASHED, AND DREAMED
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56 ABOUT KANGAROOS AND SATURDAY MORNING CARTOON SHOWS.DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY
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57 SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO GET RID OF MEESES?
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58 ---Suggest you simply turn on all your old television sets, specifically to
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59 the Pete-and-Now-Tracy Show, On the Spot Hype, any noon-time local drivel,
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60 the violence and treachery of the K2 network, and Portland Rasslin'. With
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61 their rodent IQs, said meeses will hop the Lite Trail to settle into the
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62 stacks of the county library. PS. Try vacuuming twice a year; even your
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63 landlord/mortgagor will appreciate that! Ex-rodentia
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64 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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65 ****************************************************************************
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66
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To whomever wrote that simply charming little editorial on the woes of
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67
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meeses? Chuckle, snort, giggle, wipe the eyes hilarious, snort a couple
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68 more times. thanks, we both needed that...
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69
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**************************kathyD*******************************************
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70 ------------------------
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71 ***Kathy***: Both of us? Did you have children or have you gotten married?
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72 ------------------------
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73 To whomever replied to KathyD,
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74 This is Kristi
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75 g
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76 replace
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77
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78
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79 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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80 Ok , I'm starting over(darn enter only).
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81 To whomever replied to KathyD, This is Kristi
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82 Galt , roommate and new BBS user (read klutz) . Am open
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83 to conversation and helpful advice and criticisms.
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84 bye now,
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85 Kristi
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86 ^^^^^
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87 ^^^^^^^*wng*WNG^^^^^^^^^^^^NEW USER^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^*WNG****************^^
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88 how 'bout a new modem?
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89
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90
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91 The dragon advanced toward the Bear. The Bear was now the dragon's prey, and
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92 it was in no hurry to end Bear's worried agony. It made its way toward Bear,
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93 one step at a time. Its green eyes gleemed with passion: anger, hunger,
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94 revenge and pure evil all buried deep within. The long, red mouth drooled red
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95 goo, like lava. They made hissing sounds as they hit the ground.
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96
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97 The Bear backed away, just as slowly. Suddenly his back hit the craggy wall.
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98 He gasped for breath, every muscle in his body, every pore of skin screaming
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99 for relief from the pain. He coughed slightly, it hurt his chest to do so.
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100
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101 He examined his sword, still embedded in the dragon's chest. Black-red blood
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102 oozed out around it, dropping beneath the dragon and mingling with the searing
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103 hot spittle that already lay there from its drooling mouth.
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104
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105 He looked at the monstrous teeth and the huge, sharp claws- both mighty
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106 weapons which would impede his path toward grabbing the sword from the
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107 serpent's underside.
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108
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109 His head buzzed with plans. He thought of--- suddenly! Before his mind could
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110 turn one more plan over- the dragon was upon him. It leaped with a fierce
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111 energy Bear hadn't counted on. It's gaping, blood-red mouth opened before him
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112 as the dragon pounced. Bear froze in that split second of an instant, and the
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113 dragon was upon him!
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114
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115 Bear was crushed against the wall as the dragon's mouth hit him full force. He
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116 could only scream as it wrapped its lip s over his body and picked him up.
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117
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118 The dragon shook the helpless Bear like a dog shakes a rag- back and forth in
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119 ferocious hatred. It opened its mouth slightly and shook its head one more
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120 time, and Bear sailed across the large cavern and smashed against the far
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121 wall. He lay in a heap, and growned. With every ounce of reserve energy he
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122 could muster, he stood, propping himself against the wall. He gasped for
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123 breath, and stared at the dragon between squinted eyelids. He wiped his brow
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124 of the trickling blood, and faced his enemy with defiance in his near-closed
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125 eyes.
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126
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127 And the dragon drew closer, an evil smile seemingly gracing the ends of his
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128 mouth. And he coiled his legs beneath him, and lept at Bear once again....
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129
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130 00000000000000000000000 THE BEAR 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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131
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132 P.S. With all the recent talk about downloads and uploads, etc., it's apparent
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133 that some of you lucky people are able to write your stuff, edit it, and
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134 *then* enter it here. Therefore, please forgive me for any grammatical or
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135 spelling errors, but especially for those many improvements editing or even
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136 pre-writing can provide, since I just pound this in here on my modem with no
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137 such forethought. TB
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138
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139 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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140
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141 (*) (*) (*) (*) (*) (*) (*) (*) (*) (*) (*) (*) (*) (*) (*) (*) (*) (*) (*) (*
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142
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143 On the French Toast/Pen Name question: perhaps a mediating influence is needed
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144 ? Let's just say that true, PN, the media is full of misinformation. Many
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145 reports are given from the simple result of one conversation (rumor), and
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146 facts are often distorted to fit the case. HOWEVER,
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147 French Toast and anyone else must gather whatever information they can, weed
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148 out the bad, and read between the lines to gleen what is the truth. To crit-
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149 icize someone for that and put on a holier-than-thou act is as misinformative
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150 as those terrible people you see in the media. And before you tart blaring
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151 your horn about this and that, how 'bout a solution. I love people who display
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152 their knowledge about the ills of society but have no cure.
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153 And if you're in the journalistic field (and get paid for it), I'm a horned
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154 owl's poo-poo.
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155
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156 AIDS is a killer, it will spread into the heterosexual community soon like
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157 you won't believe, and will quickly be the no. 1 topic on this country's
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158 mind. Only time will prove me right... and it's the gays fault for tampering
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159 with nature... and I wish it didn't have to be this way. But perhaps it is
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160 best, and our long-forgotten Maker is simply reminding us that he wants us
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161 to be faithful to ONE person.
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162
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163 You'll see!
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164
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165 (*) (*), etc.
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166
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167 >>> Excuse me above, let me correct you. It will spread to the maler
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168 homosexua;ll community. Gay women run less of a risk of getting it than
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169 a married women does. (Unless, of course, they are bisexual or are
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170 with someone who is). Isn't it strange how people here have talked
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171 about t"those gays" as if the men and women were the same. But, in
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172 fact (I doubt you know any) they are very different in behavior.
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173 So, I thought it needed correction. As for nature, well... I can not
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174 talk of gay men, fo I kmow few. I do know gay women who have been
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175 raped or molesteded when they were children and now thwey do not choose
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176 to go out with men. After that kind of suffering, I think it quite
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177 within the bounds of human nature to be gay. I don't think it the
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178 least bit queer or something to be shunned as perhaps you do. The
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179 pains of little girl will follow her through out her entire life.
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180 Bah! Enough of this seriousness. What has it to do with AIDS?
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181 Now I ask you to excuse me for dribbling on like this. <<<
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182 Oops! I read you wrong. Please cut out the second sentence. The next
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183 few references following may be off, but once you get to human nature,
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184 that still applies. After all, it's only a reaction to human nature. <<<
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185
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186 ///////////////////////////////////////////**********************
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187 ********************** HOW DARE YOU THINK
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188 YOU KNOW WHAT GOD IS
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189 ****GOD***
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190 *** MADE ***
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191 *** THE ****
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192 *** gays ***
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193 GOD is light,love
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194 and if you are not loving the gays as god's own then you are in hel now
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195 and for all time
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196 GOD is
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197 you come here by god will
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198 you will go by god .
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199 ******SEKER**********
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200 *****OF**************
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201 *****love************
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202 ****for god
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203 *********************
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204 bill wheeler
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205 *****************************************************************
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206
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207 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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208 To: >>> above (could you sign a name of some sort, it is hard to indicate
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209 who you are trying to respond to without a name.)
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210 I agree in your reference to human nature. It is not unnatural for
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211 one human being to love another. Male/female aspects have nothing to do
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212 with love. Male/female relationships are built from natures patterns, but
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213 as with all natural things, it is easily modified or overriden by other
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214 input, possibly internal natural input in some cases, (no one really knows
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215 for sure) and definately as a result of external enviornmetal trauma.
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216 But to say that it is wrong for someone to enjoy the company and favors
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217 of another just because they happen to be the same sex is a bit much for
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218 me to accept. I do not hate gays, I do not love them, they are simply
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219 human beings like anyone else, and deserve to be treated as human beings.
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220 As for AIDS, it is not just male homosexuals that are in danger of
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221 contacting AIDS, any group that has for one reason or another exposure to
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222 the body fluids of someone who has AIDS is at increased risk. The reason
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223 why there is a greater danger among the African tribes where it has been
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224 supposedly traced is because it is common practice for them to chew a
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225 baby's food for it. They don't have the convenence of baby food there,
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226 so they must make do with what they can. And thus the transference of
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227 AIDS through the saliva mixed with the food causes a much higher risk
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228 than in more 'advanced' countries.
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229 The reason male gays are at such high risk is only because of their
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230 sexual practices, alowing sperm fluids that might contain the AIDS virus
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231 to gain access to the partners blood stream through a tear in the anal
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232 passage. Anyone who engages in practices which allows body fluids to mix
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233 is in some danger of transferring the desease. This includes 'straight'
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234 sex since kissing is a rather common associated aspect, and this
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235 certainly allows transference of body fluids. But, the most assured
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236 and almost gaurenteed means of transfer is through direct large infusion
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237 of one persons body fluid into anothers most particularly if it is blood,
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238 or closly derived from blood. The reason why it is so difficult to
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239 detect and control AIDS, is because it works through the T4 white blood
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240 cell. The very cell that is a basic part of the immune system. And, it
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241 can lay dormant for years before making itself known. Detection of AIDS
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242 currently is only possible when it becomes active in the body and the
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243 body tries to combat it with the immune system, but since the desease itself
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244 prays on that very immune system, it is all too often a losing battle.
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245 There are people who have survived AIDS, but it is not good odds once it
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246 has gotten a major foot hold. Sort of like cancer in that aspect.
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247 No, french toast, we should not be running around in circles screaming
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248 and shouting as you seem to intimidate, we should be earnestly trying to find
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249 the mechanisims of the desease, and work towards finding a way to combat it.
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250 This includes being realistic about the methods and means of the transfer
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251 of AIDS from one person to another. The means of movement of AIDS has been
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252 determined, even the makeup if the virus involved is now known, it is
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253 simply a matter of determining how to properly detect and combat it before
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254 it gets a major foothold on the individual. This is how you combat a
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255 desease, not by running around screaming and hollering and creating unneeded
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256 and unwarrented panic in the streets as the popular media have done.
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257 Education and understanding is what brought hepatitus under control, not
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258 panic. The same will be true of AIDS.
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259 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ fred +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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260
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261 Bravo fred, you typed calmly and apparantly knowledgably.
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262 I particurly agreed with your comment about education and understanding.
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263 It's a shame that when an unknown or other 'crisis' occurs in
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264 our ever widening community that more people don't react in
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265 such a rational manner.
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266
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267 comment#2 I apologize for the messy tracks I'm leaving while
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268 learning how to use BBS' and which keys are not working on
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269 this terminal. Please bear with me, something intelligent is
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270 bound to come out of these fingers sometime. You know what
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271 they say about a monkey, a typewriter and the works of
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272 Shakespeare....
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273 Kristi Galt[K][G]
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274
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275 HEY PEOPLE,
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276 AM I THE ONLY PERSON ON EARTH WITH AN
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277 ATARI COMPUTER? I MEAN, THERE ARE ONLY
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278 TWO ATARI BOARDS IN TOWN AND THEY
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279 ARE BOTH MEMBERSHIP BOARDS. DOES
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280 ANYONE KNOW OF ANY BBS'S WITH D/LOADABLE
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281 ATARI SOFTWARE OR DOES ANYONE WANT
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282 TO TRADE? I HAVE QUITE A BIT OF GOOD
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283 SOFTWARE.......
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284 GOOD WORDS, FRED.
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285 JCP1
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286 ************************************************************************
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287
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288
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289 -----------------------------------------------------------------
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290 Have you frilled you dog's winkle today?
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291 -----------------------------------------------------------------
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292 [*=*] [*=*] [*=*] [*=*] [*=*] [*=*] [*=*] [*=*] [*==] [*=*] [*=*] [*=*]
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293 No, but I kratzeled my neighbors mingle. kathy D: thank you for your comment
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294 ?: replay of that night, NW Connection, 'foxy';advise 'criticize lifestyle, fixed no longer. Dorun.
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295 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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296 (*): 'holier-than-thou'? Nay, I make no airs to be perfect, far from. But
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297 as far as working in journalism, never said I was. Said I did. And
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298 what I saw was, maybe, common. But (and I'd rather beleive) not common
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299 in the least. But whatever the truth, I have the uttmost respect and
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300 indeed sympothy for media proffesionals, being one at one point.
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301 But if I cannot comment on what I believe in, then, in the
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302 end, what am I??
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303
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304 But enough of this, such squabbles can go on continously, and never be
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305 resolved. Certantly the media won't grind to a halt because of it? So
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306 onto lighter things! This takes up too much time for fun! What do
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307 you say, French Toast, eh? Truce??
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308
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309 (excuse sp., cold fingers!)
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310 PEN NAME
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312 HI EVERYOAN I CANT STAY ON LONG BCAUS IF THE DOCTOR FINDS ME MESSIN WITH HIS
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313 COMPUTER ILL HALF TO GO BACK TO THAT ROOM WITH MATRESS WALPAPER.
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314 HEY ITS PRETTY NEAT HERE ITS A LOT LIKE WHERE I AM WHERE PEOPLE CAN TALK ABOUT
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315 DIFRENT STUFF ON THE OPEN WAIRDS WOW ITS JUST LIKE HOAM. ITED BE NEET TO
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316 MEET SOME OF YOU GUYS SO IF YOU EVER GET OUT THIS WAY, THEY HAVE VISITING
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317 ON SUNDAES. I GOTTA GO I THINK I HEAR THE DOCTOR. YOUR FREND CHARLIE ON WARD
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318 FOAR. AW REEVOAR
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319 da
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320
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321
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322 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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323 THIS IS A COOL SYSTEM! IT REMINDS ME
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324 OF THE CONFERENCE TREE FORMAT FOR SOME
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325 REASON. THIS SKIPS RIGHT OVER ALL
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326 OF THE B.S. THAT MOST BBS'S LAY ON YA,
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327 LIKE PASSWORDS AND MESSAGES AND STUFF
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328 AND GETS TO THE REAL THING. HEY-HO-
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329 DIDDLEY-I-OH. AS FOR AIDS AND THE
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330 QUESTION ON HOMOSEXULAITY, I AM A
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331 HETERO BUT I ALWAYS SAY LIVE AND LET
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332 LIVE, AS LONG AS NO ONE BOTHERS ME
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333 THEN THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY PLEASE. AND YES FRED, AIDS IS ONLY GOING TO
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334 GET REAL ATTENTION AND THERE WILL BE
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335 A LARGE CALL TO FIND A CURE ONLY WHEN
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336 IT SPREADS TO THE HETERO COMMUNITY
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337 ON A LARGE SCALE BASIS. IF ANYONE
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338 WANTS TO TRADE ATARI SOFTWARE, LEAVE
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339 A MSG FOR ME.
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340
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341 JCP1
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342 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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343 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\THE DESTROYER\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\17
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344 Technically, they weren't exactly lost. They just didn't know where they were. The difference was that James knew
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345 of a central reference point that he could reach from any other point in the universe. They could leave at any time
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346 using the same method that he had used to escape the dimensional prison. The only problem was that James claimed he
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347 was too wiped out at the moment to attempt to open a warpgate. He needed a few days rest, first. Which left them stuck
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348 without any supplies on an unknown and possibly dangerous planet.
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349 They walked along the beach until the second sun was low in the sky. Then they came upon a wide path that led deep
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350 into the forest. The path was well cleared and obviously not made by animals (They would have called it man-made but
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351 there was no positive proof yet that humans inhabited this world.). However, the path probably led to civilization and
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352 hopefully benign beings who could shelter them for a few days.
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353 By the time the sound of the ocean faded behind them it was almost full dark and they both began to feel like
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354 walking zombies. Hardly surprising, when they realized that it had been at least thirty hours since either had slept.
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355 Once the excitement and human drama and accompanying adrenalin flow had faded, they realized how tired they were.
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356 James said it was time to call a halt to the march and find somewhere to settle for the night. Tariya wasn't too
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357 enthused about the idea of sleeping outside in the middle of the woods but admittedly there was little choice in the
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358 matter.
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359 There were many clearings on either side of the path so they stopped at the next one that presented itself. James
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360 said he would stand first watch but Tariya said that wasn't neccesary. She set up a series of mystic guards around the
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361 area. If anything even slightly dangerous tried to intrude on them the guards would raise all kinds of pyrotechnical
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362 and acoustical hell and if that didn't scare off the threat at least the travellers would be awake and alert to deal
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363 with it. James was impressed, not to say a bit surprised, that she could accomplish this, but thought it best not to
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364 say so. Privately he had thought her rather inept at her chosen craft.
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365 They found a soft spot underneath what appeared to be an oak tree and settle down within an arm's length of each
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366 other and Tariya was out within seconds. James took quite a while to fall asleep but then he always did, these
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367 days.
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368 His sleep was uneasy and restless as the hurts and fears that he normally kept subliminated during his waking life
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369 returned to haunt him with a vengence, as usual. He jolted awake completely at one point, when he felt an unaccustomed
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370 pressure on his side. It took a momet before he realized it was Tariya, who had snuggled up against him. She was still
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371 out like a light, and probably didn't even know she had done it. James smiled and put an arm around her. She moved a
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372 little and settled down, apparently quite comfortable. He closed his eyes and went back to sleep.
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373 And for the first time in a long, long time, the nightmares didn't come back.
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374 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\THE DESTROYER\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
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375 To Destroyer: BRAVO!
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376 #$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$
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377 Holy Jeez! Half a disk gone in one day! I think I'm gonna have to wait for the next one for my next entry. Darn.
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378 KathyD: Thanks for the good words. The first ones I've gotten on this one, so far. Also, belated congrats on your marriage.
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379 I always was slow. By the way, what machine are you using in place of your old one?
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380 JCP1: I, to am an Atari owner/user, and damned proud of it! The biggest collection of PD software on a board you don't have
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381 to join that I know of is Oak Grove Underground (659-xxxx). Bee-Cats (233-xxxx) has some OK stuff when the damn board is up.
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382
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383 Storytime later.
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384 JOHN SILVERMAN
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385 #$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$
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386 ************************************************************************
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387
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John S.: Your quite welcome, Your writing is fun to read. But there was
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388
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plenty of room left, why keep your fans in suspence? Oh well
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389
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that's life. Congrats accepted of the wedding, We had a great
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390
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time. The three of us, Myself, Bob, and Kristy share a Tektronix
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391
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4024 terminal and a Ma Bell 300/1200 modem, that we are still
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392
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learning to cope with. ttyl,
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393 ************************************kathyD***********************************
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394 **********************
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395 ***********************************************bill wheeler*****************************
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396 to the jo.s. i like,
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397 to:the destroyer i like
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398 french toast I DO GET YOU O>K> i love all people God made them
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399 TO FRED ::BRAVO!!!
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400 *******************************************************^**********************
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401 how do i get out of this ,oh ctrl/c o.k.
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402 ++++***+++**+++***+++***+++^*^***-***+++***++++^*^^**++******+++*^
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403 lost tales:
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404 the old Fighter could see that in the woods
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405 ther are good and evil Monsters the elf was 578
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406 and had seen a lot in her life,(I THINK A
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407 NEW Dark is in the high forest)the young sorcerer was done with
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408 his spell and said:
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409 "ai,Ihave 3 days befor I can do a Diviation
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410 I CAN NOT HELP YOU
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411 send me to my city
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412 your Quest is not for me,Varian my lady
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413 "no,Grey shaia I have need of you sill"
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414 ******************************************************************the l . t . ************************
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415 **********************the lost tales******************************
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416 "but why m'lady if I am no ues to you"
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417 "befor you cane in this woods I did not have one to talk to "
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418 now grey shaia saw ,
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419 she was the SYMBOL of elvenkind,
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420 <<:*********************************************************:>>
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421
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422 John Silverman:
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423
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424 I'm an old Backwater regular who's been too busy to contribute
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425 much for the past year or so. I still scan what's happening
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426 at the Inn fairly regularly and I noticed your work. It's good.
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427
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428 You asked about Frank.
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429
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430 Frank was a Backwater character created by a mental health
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431 professional who used to frequent this system. No one at the
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432 time knew Frank was only a character. They thought he was for
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433 real.
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434
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435 Frank presented himself as a pedophile. He stated that he
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436 preferred sex with young boys and that he was being persecuted
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437 for his lifestyle choice.
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438
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439 You can imagine the result.
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440
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441 The patrons of the Inn were outraged. They began with a lot
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442 angry name calling but soon settled down and attempted to
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443 deal with Frank on an intellectual level. This, apparently,
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444 was what Frank was waiting for.
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445
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446 Frank was a composite of the rationalizations, justifications,
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447 and denials a real perpetrator might
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448 intentionally jab at peoples most tender taboos, getting
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449 them totally outraged, then challenge them to discuss their
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450 feelings rationally.
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451
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452 It was more than the Backwater regulars could resist.
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453 plunged into battle.
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454
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455 They attacked Frank and his behavior with some of the most
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456 thoughtful writing I've ever seen around here. They soon
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457 discovered to their apparent surprise that ol' Frank was a
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458 bit smarter than they would have expected.
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459
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460 This is hardly surprising. After all, Frank's creator has a
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461 Masters Degree in Counseling and experience with the real
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462 Franks of the world. It's not surprising he could put up a
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463 realistic fight.
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464
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465 Since Frank had no emotional investment in the battle he was
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466 free from their barbs. He could approach the conflict an
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467 emotional detachment the others couldn't match. I think it
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468 gave Frank something of an edge.
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469
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470 It was an interesting confrontation to observe. It's
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471 unfortunate you missed it.
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472
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473 Anyway, I hope that gives you a better understanding about
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474 what the Frank thing was all about.
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475
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476 Frank was basically the unbridled whimsy of a mental health
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477 professional with an over active imagination and a penchant
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478 for mischief.
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479
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480 That's all their was to it.
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481
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482 Monsieur D'Autun
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483
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484 <<:*******************************************************:>>
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485
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486
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487 Oh I'm sick of all this AIDS blather, but I have to throw my thoughts in one more time because it's one a subject
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488 *everyone* ignores.
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489
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490 Okay, think about it. We've lived with V.D. for years. It was a scary thing, but once science got a cure for it, it became
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491 simply a nuisance. Now, in the last 20 years, sex with partners other than one's spouse has skyrocketed. Suddenly it's
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492 *acceptable* to have sex with whomever and whenever you like. The sexual revolution and all that jazz.
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493 Now, contrary to the people who say "God made gays so he loves them and thinks anything they do is just fine," it is
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494 stated over and over again in the Bible that not only is homosexuality a *sin*- but so is just plain ordinary sex with some-
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495 one who is not your spouse!
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496 So! Suddenly there appears a disease, during the middle of this sexual revolution which everyone is now so accepting of
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497 and willing to "live and let live," a disease called Herpes. Some media hype, etc. creates a few scares... but it's
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498 (suspiciously) incurable, and just as suspiciously, it's forever!
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499 Okay, dum-dums, getting the hint yet? You fool around, and you'll bear a *mark* forever! Worth the risk? (God is big on marks
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500 remember).
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501 And the humans said (most of 'em anyway): "Naw, I probably won't get it. Besides... it's just an inconvenience. I won't *die*
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502 from it for God's sake!" (More his sake then they know).
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503
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504 So! One last time. Okay fine. How about a disease which you can't cure, can't even discover, is highly contagious with
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505 the right kind of contact and you'll probably *die* from it!
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506
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507 Get the message yet? Are human begins so wrapped up in science, sensory feelings and the busy-ness of this world that
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508 they (1) forget about God, (2) ignore a blatant message from same, and (3) are so brain-washed from the occurances of the
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509 last 20 years that they dismiss such messages as "natural" things? Do you really think this is nature simply saying, "hey,
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510 it's ok for dogs and cats to screw around, but people- no, I want them to be faithful, so I'll create a new disease?"
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511 NO! God exists! And why not a new plague? Don't you thinthe stench of wanton sex disgusts him? And before someone says "how
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512 do you know what God thinks?"- read the Bible! Sodom and Gomorrah (Sodom- y... remember?)- why do you think he flooded
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513 the world? With that evidence past, why is the fact that one more disease, which only kills those who allow themselves to be
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514 exposed to it (the blood transfusions are an unfortunate side-effect I suppose) seem so preposterous in comparison? Because
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515 we're *modern!?@
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516 Open your eyes people! Sure it came first through gays, but the heterosexual community will soon be ravaged as well!
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517 The message is... stay with one partner! You also have to remember even divorce is hated by God! Read his own words!
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518
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519 Ah, well, I'm not a preacher. It just seems so *obvious* to me it's unbelievable how unspirited a people can become in
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520 such a short time. Just because you can't see things, doesn't mean they don't exist. And God may have made gays, but he sure
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521 as hell, yes, sure as there is hell, he despises what they *do*, he still loves them, but despises their actions. Read the
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522 Book, he spells it out in black and white. We're so accepting of wrong and immorality nowadays that people don't feel
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523 wrong when they do it.
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524
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525 Okay someone elses turn.Sorry to blather on, but *someone* has to remind you.
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526
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527 ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()ANDY()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()
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528
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529 PEOLPE IN AMERICA TAKE FOR GRANTED THE FREEDOM TO COME AND GO AS THEY PLEASE.
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530 WHAT THEY NEED IS A SUBTLE REMINDER THAT THERE ARE PLACES IN THIS WORLD WHERE
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531 THERE ARE NO SUCH RIGHTS. WHAT WE SHOULD DO WOULD BE TO LEVY A TEN PERCENT TAX
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532 ON WELFARE, UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION, ADC, AND WORKERS COMPENSATION.
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533 THIS MONEY WOULD BE USED TO HIRE SQUADS OF RUSSIAN INFANTRY TO COME HERE AND
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534 KILL ALL THE KITTENS AND PUPPIES THAT BELONG TO ALL THE LITTLE KIDDIES. A SUBTLE REMINDER THAT
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535 BIG IVAN IS WATCHING.
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536 ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
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537 huh? Can anyone else make any sense out of what the person above just said?
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538 ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
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539
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540 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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541 Isn't it interesting how when a desease
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542 like cancer strikes, it is just another
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543 desease, but when it is a desease like
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544 herpies, or AIDS, all the sudden it is
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545 God's vengence on a group of people
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546 the pulpit pounder dislikes. You speak
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547 of how nasty it is that someone would
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548 love someone else who is of the same
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549 sex, and using a desease as the basis
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550 for justification of that hatred. As
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551 fred stated elsewhere, AIDS got its
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552 start in Africa, and not as the result
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553 of anal intercourse. It just happens
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554 that thatis one of the easer routes
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555 for the desease to gain access to
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556 another person, but it is not the only
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557 means of spreading the desease. As
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558 for herpies, that can spread just as
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559 easyly thru married coupls as non.
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560 Besides, I aint too keen on a god that
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561 kills off a bunch of kids just because
|
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562 they made fun of one of his followers.
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563 That doesn't sound klike a kind
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564 compasionite loving person you make him
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565 out to be (besides, who says god has
|
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566 to be a man!). I'll stick to my own
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567 veiw of god thank you, not the vengful
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568 hateful entiy that you proport god to
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569 be.
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570 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Jacky $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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571 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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572
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573 What! You mean Frank was just a figment of someone's imagination?
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574 Yee Gods! I think I've been hoodwinked.... but then that's not hard
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575 to do.
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576 Dr. F
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577 +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_
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578
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579 **********************************************************************
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580
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Andy: chuckle,snort,giggle, har har. (muffled ...)
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581
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583 Andy: Not a preacher, eh? Maybe you should look into it, a *real* future.
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584 But, if'n you don't mind, I quabble with your view of realities.
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585 In my reality, there is no place for somthing or someone of a
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586 divine nature. There is simply no place for a creator to exsist. The
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587 thought of such is completely preposterous.
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588 The Bible the truth?? Hardly. Perhaps another 'Canturbury
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589 tales' or another 'Book of Nine Legonds' but not truth.
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590 Reality is what you make it, everyones' is different.
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591 (of course, then, no one is wrong!)
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592 An atheist, PEN NAME
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593 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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594 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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595 VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
|
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596 looved the response from ? about BIG IBlooved the response from ? about BIG IVA
|
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597 uh, oh here we go again...
|
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598 anyway BIG IVAN...
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599
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600 {ahem}
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601
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602 It never fails to amaze and not amuse me how (1) people defer to a
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603 document of suspect origin that they KNOW has been 'translated'
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604 hundreds of years ago to reflect one mans goals and that generation's
|
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605 beliefs (the King James version) aswhen presenting their view, as opposed
|
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606 using the products of their own mindsand (2) those same people can see
|
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607 one aspect of an issue as a crystal-clear sign from God (particularly
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608 if the event occurs within a 'minority,) while another aspect of the
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609 very same issue (the innocent people - and their families - who have
|
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610 been victimized through transfusion) is completely dismissed with no
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611 message perceived, 'an unfortunate side-effect, I suppose' s/he said
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612 blithely about people's LIVES|||| Whoops am getting a bit emotional
|
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613 there. The main point I'm trying to make anyway is that I would much
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614 prefer that people would apply their own rational MINDS to an issue,
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615 think clearly, and tell me their considered opinion than throw me yet
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616 another translation of the bible.
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617 Regards,
|
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618 [K][G]
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619 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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620 `,`,`,`,`,`,`
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621 [K][G]: Good for you!
|
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622 Andy: So you are implying that it serves people right if they get AIDS!
|
||
623 We ALL know it is wrong in gods eyes (cough) so they are just getting
|
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624 what they deserve eh? IF you aren't tooo busy I would like to hear
|
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625 the verses that back up your argument, REAL verses and not what you
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626 think you remember because what is in your memory can be mutilated by
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627 what you feel.
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628 `,`,`,`,`,`,` Mark.
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