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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask...
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2 ********************** INSTALLED: 10 OCT 84 ****************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
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6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is
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10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which
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11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the
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14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the
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15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace
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16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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18 ************************************************************
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19
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20 TOMORROW DRIVE B WILL BE MISSING WHILE I RESTORE THE MISSING INFORMATION.
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21 THUS, IF YOU TRY TO ACCESS IT, IT WILL HANG UP. REQUIRING YOU TO HANGUP
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22 AND CALL BACK IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE. THE DISK WILL BE RETURNED TOMORROW
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23 NIGHT (THR 11 OCT 84).
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24 ABOUT BWMS, POINT ONE, I WILL NOT DO ANY WORK ON IT MYSELF. I DON'T HAVE THE
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25 TIME TO DO SO. NOR WILL I DO ANY HARDWARE MODIFICATIONS. OF COURSE I AM
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26 NOT AGAINST ANYONE PUTTING UP THEIR OWN BWMS SYSTEM. THE QUIRY THAT WAS
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27 BROUGHT UP WAS WHETHER SOMEONE WANTED TO DO THE MADDNESS. ACTUALY, WE
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28 COULD USE ANOTHER BWMS TO TAKE THE LOAD OFF OF HERE. NOT TO MENTION
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29 BEING ABLE TO SPREAD THE FAME BY HAVING SOFTWARE THAT COULD BE PROVIDED
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30 TO OTHER COMPUTER FREAKS THAT IS USEABLE.
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31 ************************** CISTOP MIKEY ***********************:
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32 && && &&
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33 MADE IT I TO THE TOP (Mikey doesn't count.)
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34 If anyone is interested in doing some BWMS-type stuff on a VERY different system, try dialing ATE-BYTE (the ph#
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35 spells that). It's a BBS running in an outline-processor format. It can be very confusing, (it took me FOREVER to
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36 get the hang of it) but once you figure out the basics of it it's quite rewarding. The Sysop there just modified
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37 the welcome file so that everyone gets a simple instruction guide to the system at the beginning. There's an entire
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38 outline area (called "Topic") dedicated to BWMS-style fiction. Just <G>o <K>ey <fiction> to get to the top of it,
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39 then use <S><K> to see the outline. Oh, heck, why am I detailing it here? Call it, the basic instructions scroll
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40 past you automatically.
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41 && && &&
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42 The poet was pleased to find the Inn less crowded than it had been of late. There must be an adventure on, he
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43 thought, all my favorite regulars seem to be gone. Hmm, maybe I can check on them...
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44 First checking the room to make certain no-one was looking his way, the Poet slipped his hand into one of the large
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45 pockets in his robe, pulling it open and gazing into it. Ahh, there was the Piper and that French fellow, on some
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46 sort of flying horse. Oops, they were straying a bit too close to his pocket's field; better damp down the power
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47 level. Having them trying to fly out of his pocket would be somewhat uncomfortable, to say the least. Crap. The
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48 field transient had moved them several reality-tracks away from where they wanted to be. They're lost for sure, now.
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49 Wait... Piper's flying back towards the field... maybe a little boost to the translator... there. That was a bit
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50 tricky, there, but now they were back where they'd started. A near thing, too: as he'd translated them across the
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51 interference from an alternate Poet taking similar action in an adjacent reality had almost set up a feedback...
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52 Shuddering at the thought of what a reality feedback would do to things, the Poet released his pocket and signalled
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53 the Innkeeper for his usual seven ales. Feedback! He hoped there weren't any sensitive reality-shifts going on in
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54 Piper's current reality. The interference could have set up a standing wave... and that could make things pretty
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55 hairy for afew hours...
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56 && The Mad Actor &&
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57
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58 OK, anybody else want in on the "Great Backwater Re-Write"?
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59 As a start, I'd say that we should implement some sort of "marker"
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60 similar to the one that lets BW know where the next line is. The marker would
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61 indicate which lines had been entered BEFORE the current caller. This could
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62 be used to protect previous entries from deletion etc.
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63 In any case the first priority will be to get schematics & source code
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64 for the CURRENT system!
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65 Anybody got a prom reader? I've got both 8080 & Z-80 disassemblers...
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66 _____________________________________Leonard____________________________________
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67 ps. Mikey, if we do get a group going on this would there be any problem using
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68 the system you had at OMSI for testing?
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69 ________________________________________________________________________________
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70 help
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71 jerry haskins
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72 has anyone gotten vic-40 (ahoy! oct.84) to work?
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73 end
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74
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75 <&<&,&>&> and so the conversations turned, until the sun went down... <&<&,&>&>
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76 **************************************************************************
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77 DAWN: NO ONE SAYS YOU CAN'T CONTINUE YOUR DEBATE JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE
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78 IS OFF ADVENTURING. IT IS NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE SEVERAL THOUGHTLINES FLOWING
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79 IN BWMS AT ONCE. ADMITTEDLY IT MAKES IT A LITTLE HARDER TO KEEP TRACK OF
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80 THINGS, BUT MOST PEOPLE SOON LEARN TO SKIP PAST THOSE THINGS THEY DON'T
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81 REALLY CARE ABOUT. I HOPE THIS DOESN'T PUT YOU OFF OF BWMS ALTOGETHER,
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82 WE NEED TO MAINTAIN A DIVERSE GROUP HERE, OR IT SINKS INTO A POCKET OF
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83 ITS OWN SELF INTERESTS. ACTUALLY BARING ANY OTHER CONCEPTS FROM BEING
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84 INTRODUCED. AND THAT IS MOST DEFINATLY NOT WHAT TJIS BBS IS ABOUT.
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85 BWMSERS: I HAVE SCHEMATICS, NO PROBLEM THERE. AND YES, WE COULD PROBABLY
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86 COBBLE UP SOMTHING FOR WORK IF SO DESIRED. ALSO, GIVE THE IDEA OF AN
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87 ENTIRLY NEW SYSTEM A THOUGHT TOO, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A REPLACEMENT
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88 AND OR UPGRADE OF VENERABLE OL' BWMS, EVEN A WHOLE NEW SYSTEM SOMEWHERE
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89 ELSE MIGHT BE MORE ATRACTIVE. THE IDEA IS TO USE THE KNOWLEDGE GAINED HERE
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90 TO MAKE A BETTER BBS OF THE BWMS STYLE.
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91 ************************* CISTOP MIKEY ****************************:
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92 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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93 VFFN/CAID:I am unable to attend friday due to something comeing up. Perhaps tuesday?
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94 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/MiG/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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95 Are there any VIC user's left out there ?
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96 Jerry
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97 C
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98 To:SYSOP
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99 I tried to delete my first message but couldn't.Help screen didn't.Please advise.
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100 Jerry Haskins
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101 `'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
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102 Slowly the sun became a huge orange sphere, as it floated toward the
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103 infinite line that separated sea and sky. As far as the eye could reach in
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104 any direction, not a mortal artifact in sight. Nothing to mar the perfection
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105 of that infinite curve. Here one could fully embrace the feeling of peace.
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106 How strange, he mused to himself. He had friends who found this same feeling
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107 of contentment living in the mountains of timber country. Maybe, just maybe,
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108 he might see some of them at the Backwater Inn. Both feelings had one thing
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109 in common. Relating the feeling to someone who has never been there was
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110 nearly impossible. I guess it's just one of those things a person has to go
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111 experience for themselves. High on a mountain side, or far at sea, there is
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112 room to look as far outward or inward as a person desires.
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113
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114 'Southwind' was clipping along at a steady eight and a half knots, close
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115 reaching, on the last tack, for the entrance to that famous river. A easy
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116 slide up river to that cove near the Inn and... In the fading light a darker
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117 line rose jaggedly out of the sea across the eastern horizon. It continued
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118 to loom out of the misty haze that had occupied that quadrant of the world
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119 most of the day. The ancient practitioner sprang up from his daydreaming
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120 and reached below to grab both chart and long glass. Tomorrow morning was
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121 when he expected to make landfall. Was it possible? Suddenly a word sprang
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122 into his mind, `CURRENTS?'. "Oh! <bleep>", he exclaimed aloud.
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123 `'`'`'`' -alchemist- `'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
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124 this system..
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125 ATTENTION HUNTERS
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126 HUNTING SEASON NOW OPEN !!!!!
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127 GET YOUR GURU TAGS NOW !!!!!!
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128 [NO TAGS NEEDED FOR SHIELA OR FOLLOWERS
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129 NOTE LIMIT 100 PER HUNTER
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130 "LET'S BHANG WAN TODAY"
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131 ***********************************************************************
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132 WANTED: ATARI PROGRAMMERS WHO CAN PROGRAM IN BOTH MACHINE LANGUAGE AND
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133 FORTH. STARTING A COMPANY SOON DEDICATED TO THE MANUFACTURING OF ROBOTS
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134 AND NEED MORE PROGRAMMERS FOR THE CHRISTMAS RUSH. MUST BE ABLE TO USE S.A.M.
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135 AND UNDERSTAND SELONOIDS AND RELAY OPERATION. LEAVE A MESSAGE HERE OR ON
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136 P.A.C. IF INTERESTED.
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137
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138 THIS IS DAN BROOKS AND I AM INTERESTED
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139
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IN PROGRAMMING ROBOTS.
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140
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141
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142
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I HAVE AN I Q OF 250 AND I'M SMART TO
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143
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PLEASE CALL ME FOR DINER ( BREAKFAST TO)
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144 I LIKE TO PUSH KEYS!
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145
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146 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZip
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147
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148 MiG: I AM INTERESTED IN GETTING A MOODEM DO YOU KNOW OF ANEY GOOOD ONES?
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149 FOR THE ATARE?
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150 THANX
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151 ZIPSTER
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152 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZip
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153 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$TGC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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154 MiG: sorry that you can't make it tomorrow (or today) tuesday sounds fine.
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155 Say hello to aunt Bee and all the folks at Mayberry.
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156 Vffn and Caid
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157 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$TGC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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158 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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159 Since I couldn't get to drive 'b' to see what happened since the last
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160 entry, (yes, Virginia, it DOES hang fire!!) I'll wait for a while to
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161 make another adventure contribution.
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162 On the subject of a BWMS replacement -- with more code space to work
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163 with, shouldn't we think about a little more efficient text storage?
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164 I could suggest several things:
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165 1. A fairly compatible format such as Incred. Big Money 360k 5 1/4"
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166 2. Consider the entire disk as one file -- use CR or LF to deliniate
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167 lines rather than 1 line/sector.
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168 3. Similar (simple) command interface.
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169 4. Don't get carried away with frills. Lots of the BWMS charm is the
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170 basic simplicity of the format. (KISS)
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171 5. (storage efficiency) how about some sort of runlength encoding for
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172 things like borders or blank lines?
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173 'nuffa that stuff. Now if I can just get this beast to behave....
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174 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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175 Piper: Since I have been 'designing' a BW like system for a while I have a
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176 few points you might consider.
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177 1. To keep the ability to edit lines AND to start reading at any line, the
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178 easiest soltion is a 'Random-Access' file with fixed record lengths.
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179 (essentially what BW uses now) Sequential files are a LOT harder to code.
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180 2. Since I have 256 byte sectors on my equipment, I'd consider 2 lines per
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181 sector. (Or perhaps 48 lines/track. that would be 96 char/line)
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182 3. I see nothing wrong with the current command set. (Some of the quirks
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183 should be straightened out though)
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184 4. With 180k SSDD 5 1/4" disks and 2 "lines" per sector (plus a LOT of system
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185 overhead) I could put 1398 "lines" on a disk. Remember, the only reason BW
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186 has such a "small" amount of storage is that it is on a 35 track SINGLE
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187 density system! On a 40 track DOUBLE density system we might have TOO MUCH
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188 room.
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189 Note: I may try putting up a BASIC version of BW on one of my machines.
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190 If I do, I will give the number out to SOME of the patrons of BW. Since it
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191 will only be a part-time test I will NOT generally release the number! (If the
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192 test works out then MAYBE I'll get a second phone line etc)
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193 _________________________________Leonard________________________________________
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194 I know that there are other places to post this message but... since Im here
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195
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196 I am trying to put together a CP/M system but lack the most important parts.
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197 I have a 10 Megabyte Hard Disk Drive (5 1/4in.) and a few assorted trading
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198 items such as, 40 character by 4 lines - display panels, with logic boards &
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199 interface and power supply, large collection of ICs, A-to-D Converters, and
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200 a couple of boards for a PDP-8 (CRT Controller, Bootstrap Loader)
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201 Am looking for an S-100 card cage+power supply and or anything that will be
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202 useful in this project.
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203 The sooner I can find a system, the sooner Powerhouse Information Exchange
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204 will be back online in Portland. Am also going to run a modified copy of the
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205 under-distributed version of CITADEL.
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206 Any help would be appreciated. Robert Kulbe
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207
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208 P.S. If you would rather, leave a formal message on CBBS-NW or the BIT BUCKET
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209
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210 -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=-
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211
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212 ROBERT, WHAT IS `CITADEL` ? J. FORGE
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213 FOR THAT MATTER, DOES ANYONE ELSE KNOW ? ? ?
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214 ***********************************************************************
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215 LEONARD: ONE THING YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IS NOCKING THE LINE LENGTH
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216 DOWN EVEN FURTHER (72 CHAR PER LINE) YOU DO THIS BY BREAKING IT INTO
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217 64 CHAR CHUNKS, THEN ENCODE THE REMAINING 8 CHAR IN THE BIT 8'S OF THE
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218 64 CHARS. THIS WAS DONE ON A VERSION OF THE SYSTEM THAT BWMS RUNS ON
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219 UNFORTUNATLY, I WAS NOT ABLE TO GET THE CODE TO DO IT WITH. IT DID DOUBLE
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220 THE DATA SPACE THOUGH. THERE WAS ALSO A VERISON THAT RAN ON DOUBLE SIDED
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221 DRIVES TOO BUT NEVER DOUBLE DENSITY. THE EQUIPMENT WAS OBSOLETE BY THE TIME
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222 DDENS BECAME POPULAR. (IE WORKING 1791'S WERE AVAILABLE)
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223 ANYWAY, IT'S A THOUGHT...
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224
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225 ALL: ARGHHHH! THE DRIVE B WAS RECOVERED (EASY TO DO, JUST THROW
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226 IT ON MY CPM SYSTEM AND RUN MY UNDEL PROGRAM) BUT, I SEEM TO HAVE LEFT
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227 IT LAYING ON MY DESK. SO... IT WON'T BE BACK UNTIL TOMORROW. IN THE
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228 MEAN TIME I'LL LEAVE THE PREVIOUS DISK IN B SO YOU'LL HAVE SOMETHING
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229 THERE TO FILL THE VOID. SORRY 'BOUT THAT.
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230 ************************* CISTOP MIKEY ***************************
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231 <+|+> {255} 22001010
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232 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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233 Hmmm... another BWMS... well, sorry, I cannot help, unless you're doing it on an Apple or a Commode (and I gather you're
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234 not). 1000+ lines a disk sounds good, but it would be a little hard to find things after awhile. How about increasing
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235 the line length a little, so there would be about 800 or so lines?
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236 The idea of the delete pointer is a good one, also... then you could add 'delete a range of numbers' and not allow
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237 deleting of other's entries.
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238 Leonard: May I have that number? If so, I believe you have my number again or you could post it in the old code. I
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239 never have the time to really go at the new one. I have the feeling you use more than one system at once... as a guess,
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240 i'd say it was run through a polyalphabetic table and then run through a transposition block. If another guess of mine
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241 is right, there are 3,628,000 shift combinations AFTER the keyword encryption. Am I hitting close?
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242 +++++++++++++++++++
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243 (This is just after my last entry: To be brief, we continued on and neared the Nor-gate in the mountains. Narfaal
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244 and Hargo set up Vesta-cannons to suprise the incoming group.)
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245 Riding slowly along the steep trail winding up to the gate, the party gained it's first glimpse of the massive
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246 stucture. It was ebony black, with small silver specks being the only mark upon it's face. A faint glow could be seen
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247 near the edges of the door. "The time is quite close no-", Milchar began.
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248 WHHHOOOOOOMMMM! A blast of violent amber energy smote the ground near Milchar, knocking him off Drinny and sending the
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249 others scattering. "Take cover!", the Friar yelled, crouching behind a rock, peering toward the source of the fire.
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250 Mounted on a high outcropping of rock some 150 feet overhead, was a short green barrel with a sight mounted on it.
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251 The barrel was smouldering, and a short man giggled with delight at the Chaos he had caused. "Hargo like death, death
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252 fun! Like to see others suffer! Me be just like Narfaal!", the man rasped.
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253 Suddenly, the barrel spat out several more beams... one of these beams hit another outcropping of rock, sending
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254 boulders down upon the party- Milchar barely had enough time to release his Soul-self before his body lost
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255 consciousness. #Hurry, enter the gate! It opens even now!#, Milchar's soul-self thought out to the others. #He will
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256 believe me dead, and report to his master! Hurry!#
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257 ++++++++++++++++ Milchar +++++++++++++++++++++++++ 10:53 on 10/11/1984 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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258 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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259
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260 Anybody out there got a Kaypro CP/M manual? How do you
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261 use the SWEEP.COM program? I have a public domain version
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262 for another system, but no docs, just the advice: find a
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263 Kaypro manual! Thanks for the help.
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264
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265 The mixed up kid
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266
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267 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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268 |+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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269 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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270 To: Mikey. Re: Updates of BWMS & KAMAS.
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271 Have you given KAMAS a thought as a substitute for good ol' BWMS? I am running
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272 an RKAMAS at 283-xxxx (ATE-BYTE) and could easily switch the topics around so
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273 as to have a 376 K byte fiction topic (even two of them) and leave the rest of
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274 the space for other topics. The system is running at 1200/300 bps and is using
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275 678 K of ram disk and 752 K of floppies so there is a lot of storage. Also,
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276 I can put the content of topics into ASCII files on most 5.25" formats which
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277 is something many people seem to want.
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278 Are you enjoing KAMAS? Have you used it any? Let me know if any of the ideas
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279 above apeal to you.
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280 Michael Galassi, System Operator of ATE-BYTE.
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281 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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282 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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283 @ @ @ @ @@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @
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284 @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @@@@@ @@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @@ @ @@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @
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285 The Former woke to the foul stench of rotting woods, and the dieases of his freinds.
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286 As the Former tried to sleep, to evade the desperate reality she was in, her thoughts wandered to recent memories...
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287 The White Plagues of two hundred years ago, the Red Plagues of fifty years ago, and the onset of the Green Plagues two years
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288 ago.
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289 The Green Plagues were still raging, but a cure was being distributed to the diestricts not too far gone to help.
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290 The Former knew she was in a district too far gone to help, she knew also that the plague had all but killed her already.
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291 She didn't have the power to send for help. Nor could she reform which would cure her. She was doomed.
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292 She closed her eyes, and let sleep close in around her. She secretly knew that it was Death not sleep that ccrept on her.
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293 As she died, she felt the psionic links opening, she felt a warning, another warning, she heard milcha warning everyone.
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294 She realized the links were at their weakest at that instant. If an attempt failed now; there was no hope.
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295 Opting for Life she screamed with every fiber of her mind and body, #I, I AM HERE, MILCHAR, TRACE ME, OR I DIE, PLEASE...#
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296 After that, there was no strength in her to fight Death, and Death knew this, finality was microseconds away...
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297 @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @@@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @@ @ @ @@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @
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298 @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @
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299 @ @ @ @@@: Is that any better mayhap? Any advice, comments, threats against my life, anthing?: @ @ @ @ @@ @@@
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300
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301 *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*
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302 Morning had come rather early, dawning bright and clear. I got evryone up, except Milchar, who had
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303 apparently not gone to sleep at all. I brought out the cloth and unfolded it for breakfast. After
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304 grace (It is my cloth, after all),we all ate well, for I feared a strenuous day. Getting going on
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305 our journey, we looked an amazing sight.
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306 After a short ride, we saw it. The site was amazing. As I contemplated it, the ground exploded
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307 around us. "Take cover !", I yelled. Milchar was hit, and he crumpled to the ground. "Milchar !"
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308 My voice was almost drowned out by more energy bursts. I heard Milchar's voice urging us through
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309 the norgate. We would be safe there. I told Scout to dissolve back to the corral, which he most
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310 gratefully did. I grabbed the inert body of Milchar and ran for the gate, leaping through it to
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311 the assumed sanctuary beyond. Suddenly I was no longer in existence. Or at least my body no longer
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312 responded to sensual stimulae. I felt the psychic presence of Milchar next to me, and thought
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313 "What is this ?" Milchar's voice came to me "Do not fear, my friend, we will be out of the void in
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314 a moment".
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315
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316 Friar Mossback
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317 *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*
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318 { ^+/* ---------------- ^+/* ---------------- */+^ ---------------- */+^ }
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319 Laissez-faire - Have you left BWMS for awhile or are you just in 'lurkin'
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320 mode for a bit? You asked who was going to watch the debates. I did
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321 indeed watch both television candidate photo opportunities. One could
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322 hardly call them debates. Conclusion: of the four perhaps we should
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323 elect Ferraro and Bush, then let them flip a coin to see who gets to be
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324 president! (Best two out of three tosses... 3 out of five?)
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325
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326 DAWN - I couldn't help but notice the general tonality of your messages. It
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327 has something of a familiar ring to it. Perhaps you might try making a
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328 contribution of your own rather than just offering criticism of the
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329 entries of others. I do agree that the future is in the hands of the
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330 youth of today, as it always has been in any era. How about giving us a
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331 demonstration of this potential in the form of written expression here.
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332 Debate, stories, or take your pick. Backwater has always been dealer's
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333 choice. People, young or old, willing to contribute, have always been
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334 given room to express themselves. Even those who only criticize others.
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335
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336 A conversation heard in the past comes to mind:
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337 "Would you please teach us how to bring order out of chaos?"
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338 "I look around me and I see no chaos. Perhaps you should
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339 ask to be taught how to see."
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340
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341 A closing quote from Blaise Pascal: "I have made this letter longer than
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342 usual because I lacked the time to make it short."
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343
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344 { ^+/* ---------------- The Mesolithic Mathematician ------------ */+^ }
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345 ######################################### THE PRINCIPLE OF EVIL ############
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346 HOW CAN ONE MEASURE THE GOOD WITHOUT KNOWING THE BAD? HOW CAN ONE LONG FOR
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347 HE LIGHT WITHOUT KNOWING THE ANGUISH OF DARKNESS? IN WHAT AN UNPLEASENT
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348 LAND OF PLENTY WOULD ONE LIVE WERE THERE NO BAD. EVIL CAUSES SUFFERING AND FROM PAIN SPRINGS THE
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349 ESIRE FOR SOMETHING BETTER; DEFICIENCIES CAUSE US TO WANT IMPROVEMENT,
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350 VOLUTION, AND TO SET UP IDEALS. IT CAN SAFELY BE SAID, AS IT HAS OFTEN BEEN
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351 THAT GOD WOULD CEASE TO EXIST IF THERE WERE NO DEVIL,OR AS A FRENCH THEOLOGIAN EXPRESSED IT:
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352 "GOD AND THE DEVIL ARE THE WHOLE RELIGION."
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353 ############################################ THE THINKER ##### 10/11/84####
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354 ######################### 11:30 AM###
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355 AND HOW CAN WE KNOW BAD WRITING WITHOUT EVER HAVING
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356 READ DAMIEN II AKA CYM AKA DAMIEN II? IT ALL DEPENDS
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357 ON YOUR PRESPECTIVE.
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358 ]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[
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359 BWMS - can it be done on a apple computer. Can it be done with the same
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360 accuracy of this one? If it can be done or already has I would
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361 really appreciate knowing about it. If you do know of one, please
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362 leave a message for me here.
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363
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364 Mark.
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365 ]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[
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366 ;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;
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367 Laseter looked down the alley to see if he had been spotted by the law officer. With Fin on the
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368
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loose there was no telling if they had been bought like so many others. tThe idea had been to beat
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369
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him offf planet, but the only way to do so would have been to steal the shuttle these Americans
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370 had been so excited about. It was an ungainly bird, much better suited to weapons deliuvery than
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371 space travel, but these people had just begun to exzplore and this was hotstuff to them. He smiled
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372 as he thouight ofthe loud, wasteful rocket motors and hoew they lit up the morning sky. WEell,
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373 soon they'd discover fusion drive and all that would be so much water undewr the bridge. Ahhh
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374 the youth of young civilizations.If he couldn't shift their attentions soon, they might eventually
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375 blow their delicate little planet to bits.
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376 ;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-FIN
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377 Oh well, I guess the Former is a dead woman, too bad; she owed me money. Sincerely, Sitria.
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378 ...............................................................................
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379 TO EVERY ONE--
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380 I AM SELLING A TRS-80 COLOR COMPUTER WITH EXTENDED COLOR BASIC.
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381 IT HAS JOYSTICKS AND OVER 15 MISC. PROGRAMS....
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382 SORRY,NO MODEM.I AM LETTING IT GO FORUNBOUT
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383 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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384 The Friar was carrying Milchar's body through the void, struggling through the gate...
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385 #...help, Milchar..# A weak thought had found its way through the countless planes of existance, drawn to the center.
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386 A soul entered Milchar's soul-self, and Milchar gave it some of his limited strength. #I am the Former...Where am I
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387 ow?# #In the Nor-Gate, we shall be through in but a moment. If I hadn't been crossing through at the moment I would
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388 ever have heard your plea. A plague?#
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389 Yes, the Green Plagu..# At that moment, the straggling members of the group broke through the membrane.
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390 he group found itself standing at the north end of a narrow valley, obviously the northernmost reach of the Ruby
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391 alley. It was quite narrow and rocky at this end, probably due to the influence of the extra-planar connection. What
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392 veryone could see, they marveled at... then they saw something even more amazing.
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393 body was laying in a shallow pool of azure water. The body was covered with a sort of green slime- not at all
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394 leasing to look at. As the party watched in morbid fasination, the water cleansed the slime from the body, and a
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395 ealthy glow began to radiate from it. Milchar's body was exhibiting the same moist look, and the same glow. Small
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396 uts and bruises on the members of the group vanished as the mysterious water touched them. Suddenly, the Former and
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397 ilchar got up, laughing quietly. "Ahh,", Milchar said, "I have not felt this good in a very long time. Former, I
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398 elcome you to our expedition. I wish there were time for formal introductions, but I fear that 'Hargo' will come in
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399 fter us. Let us go in to the main section of the Valley and plan our defense."
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400 he Friar, a little shaken by Milchar's formerly unconscious body spewing out this dialogue, asked, "Who is Hargo? Why
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401 id he attack? What have we done?"
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402 Nothing, my good friend. I believe in this case it is not what we have done, but what we can or will do. But let us
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403 o. Sunset here will be in another hour, and I would like to be in the Gazebo at that time."
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404 Why?", the Former asked.
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405 To witness the greatest map-maker of all, of course."
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406 "Huh?", the Former said, obviously having a hard time dealing with his new livelihood.
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407 "You shall see, and know that fate must have had a hand in your resurrection."
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408 A green blast of force from the direction of the gate convinced all to move closer to the center...
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409 While moving, Milchar thought about the strange water and wondered why he had not noticed any of that before...
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410 +++++++++++++++++ Milchar +++++++++++++++++++++++++ 10:38 on 10/12/84 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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411 ======================= BOAT BUILDING BY EMPIRE BOAT BUILDING ==============
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412
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413 SALES & REPAIR - FREE ESTIMATES FIBERGLASS BOATS. SAIL OR POWER
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414 COOS BAY, OR 97420 0414
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415 TELEPHONE 503-756-xxxx
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416 FROM 8 TO 18 FEET . FROM BARE HULL TO COMPLETED BOAT.
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417
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418 *===========================================================================
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419 ORYCON-ORYCON-ORYCON-ORYCON-ORYCON-ORYCON-ORYCON-ORYCON-ORYCON-ORYCON-ORYCON
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420
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421 OryCon '84 is approaching! We will be a small, but fully featured
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422 relaxicon-type science fiction/fantasy convention this year.
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423 Panels, dealers, art show, video, costume dance, and 24-hour hospitality
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424 suite. Portland Cosmopoliton Hotel, November 9 - 11. Memberships are limited,
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425 and will not be sold att the door.
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426 Call 283-xxxx for memberships ($11 'till 10/31).
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427
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428 Anyone interested in setting up computer/video games at OryCon??
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429 Maybe even a BWMS-type storyboard (non-phone) which could be written to by
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430 people at OryCon??? If interested, call 635-xxxx.
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431 - Mike & Dianne Butts
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432
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433 ORYCON-ORYCON-ORYCON-ORYCON-ORYCON-ORYCON-ORYCON-ORYCON-ORYCON-ORYCON-ORYCON
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434 ********************************************************************
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435 WELL, DRIVE B IS BACK, I MUST APOLIGIZE FOR THE INCOHERANCE THOUGH,
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436 I GOOFED AND RAN IT THRU THE WRONG UNDELETE PROGRAM WHICH STRIPPED
|
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437 OFF THE FIRST CHARACTER OF EACH LINE. SORRY...
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438 to: Michael Galassi: If I had a computer that was able to run Kamas, it
|
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439 wouldn't be running a bbs, it would be pressed into service at work.
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440 BWMS not being a useful computer bypasses that possibliity.
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441 ********************** CISTO MIKEY *************************************:
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442 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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443 The piper had wandered away from the main party. As he flew, seated on the
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444 back of the pegasus, he felt the cool breeze of morning chilling away the warmth
|
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445 of the morning sunbeams. His mount's mightly wings were braced in the air,
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446 scarcely moving, sensitive to every nuance and fluctuation of the air currents.
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447 From his seat, the party looked almost like heavily laden ants struggling
|
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448 along the threadlike pathway that wound into the deepening canyons of the
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449 looming mountains. The earth looked broken and tourtured here.. What incredible
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450 forces had lifted and broken these huge slabs of stone? Had some giant child
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451 overturned and broken some gigantic toy in an incredible fit of rage?
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452 The piper's mind, lulled by the slow glide and morning sun, drifted idly over
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453 these and other subjects, as he watched the party's slow crawl far below.
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454 He considered, briefly, landing to confer with Milchar -- but no, they were
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455 getting close to their destination, as Milchar had described it. He leaned
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456 forward to bury his face in the sweet-smelling mane of his steed, feeling
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457 delight in moving, breathing, and just being alive in this of all worlds.
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458 The first indication he had of trouble was the tensing of the pegasus' muscles
|
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459 under the silken hide. Mind still drifting, the piper responded by hooking his
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460 knees over the leading edge of the mighty wings, just in time to prevent
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||
461 being thrown off by the abrupt wheel of his steed. Banking almost vertically,
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||
462 the pegasus seemed to pivot upon one straining wing as the backwash from
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||
463 unleashed energy limned her rider and herself with shimmering green outlines.
|
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464 The piper did not see the energy release, and being unharmed by the frightening,
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465 but essentially harmeless energy backwash, he was unprepared for Milchar's
|
||
466 mental message. "Milchar -- hurt!" sped through his mind. Gaining control
|
||
467 with some difficulty, he managed to turn the pegasus around toward the site of
|
||
468 the recent disaster. Drifting in eerie silence, they swiftly but cautiously
|
||
469 slid over the intervening ridge toward the rough valley where the party had
|
||
470 been ambushed. Using silence and altitude, the strange dancing figure manning
|
||
471 a strange weapon below them was unaware of the approach of Peg and her rider.
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||
472 (OK-- I never claimed to be very original at naming animals!)
|
||
473 The weapon (for that was all it could be) was a strange combination of strength
|
||
474 and fragility. The barrel, of pitted green metal, obviously withstood
|
||
475 tremendious energies, but attached to it was a strange crystalling object that
|
||
476 seemed to be neither here nor there. The grotesquely capering figure seemed to
|
||
477 be alone, although how he could have piled the boulders into a rough breastwork
|
||
478 the piper could not imagine. He had leaped atop the piled stone breastwork now,
|
||
479 waving his fists above his head in unholy glee. The piper, holding tightly
|
||
480 to his steed was scarcely twenty feet away when he yelled loudly, "Hey, Ugly,
|
||
481 That wasn't a Nice ThinG To DO!" The being's face was a study in amazement
|
||
482 as he turned to be confronted with a rider on a horse with a 20-footh wingspan.
|
||
483 The amazement on that face turned to horror a split-second before a forward
|
||
484 snap of the pegasus' right wing smashed the ugly face of the ambusher into
|
||
485 lying bits of red and white horror. The leading edge of the first joint of
|
||
486 pegasus' wing is capable of breaking through an 8-inch green tree -- the
|
||
487 mbusher's skull furnished much less resistance.
|
||
488 Stooping swiftly into the valley, the piper saw the last of the party enter
|
||
489 the open gateway. Landing before it, he hesitated, then with determination
|
||
490 began leading Peg to the door. He folded the great white wings more closely
|
||
491 to her body, brushing bits of gore from the right wing, and stroking her neck
|
||
492 and speaking softly, overcame her nervousness and lead her into the flickering
|
||
493 blackness. The ways of darkness are long and tortuous. The piper, without
|
||
494 Milchar and the party for his guide seemed to wander forever in that strange
|
||
495 domain -- flickers of energy that he could neither see nor hear washed by him.
|
||
496 He felt the rawness of unreleived pain streak through his nonexistent body, the
|
||
497 anguish of betrayal, the ecstasy of completion, the exhilarition of the epopt,
|
||
498 and the awful gripping numbness of emotional exhaustion -- then feelings for
|
||
499 which he could put no name came at him, and although his senses were totally
|
||
500 suspect, he could sense the bond between him and his steed growing stronger
|
||
501 through this test of adversity. Her thoughts seemed to be taking more tangible
|
||
502 form ... he strained to...
|
||
503 Suddenly, a great green wash of energy, propelled by a fantastic force of
|
||
504 gibbering hate rushed through the darkness. The piper turned to follow it
|
||
505 and emerged from the gateway just in time to see the party scatter.
|
||
506 "I'd better get out of the line of fire" he thought quickly, and moving to the
|
||
507 side mounted and urged Peg into the sky.
|
||
508 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
|
||
509 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
|
||
510 WHAT HAPPENED TO LINES 384-408?
|
||
511 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
|
||
512 ~ ? ? ? ? ? ?`?`? > ? ? ? _ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?`? ? ? ~` ? ? ? ? ?/
|
||
513 Oee, zmst a litt\r Ofhello?
|
||
514 Gee, just a little flaky this morning. I find it interesting how one little missing letter can change the whole meaning
|
||
515 of a sentence.
|
||
516 Mark:MLC/BBS will have a subsection that emulates BW with a few extras, I kept it simple otherwise..
|
||
517 MLCers:when tuesday is the time to show up so as to get to that beast that hayes calls a modem?
|
||
518 Mark again:Yes, its on an apple, no, it will not be public domain, but it took all of 4 hours to write, in pascal.
|
||
519 ? ? ? ? ~ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/MiG/./? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
|
||
520 SYSOP
|
||
521 DO YOU KNOW WHEN EXCALIBUR BBS WILL RESUME SERVICE AND WHAT ITS NEW NUMBER WILL BE AFTER RELOCATION?
|
||
522
|
||
523 JAG
|
||
524 HAVE YOU FOUND OUT WHEN EXCALIBUR BBS WILL RESUME SERVICE AND WHAT ITS NEW NUMBER WILL BE?
|
||
525 JESSE JAMES
|
||
526 ]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[
|
||
527 MiG:
|
||
528 Thanks for the reply. I was just wondering if it has ever been done
|
||
529 before. I have been looking into a bunch of different things to
|
||
530 write a BW here too, none worked and I only know a little of pascal.
|
||
531 Will the number for it be released to the public soon?
|
||
532
|
||
533 Mark
|
||
534 ]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[
|
||
535 HI THERE
|
||
536 IT IS ME
|
||
537 mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
|
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538
|
||
539 it is now 6:18. boy, that was profound!
|
||
540 Does anybody out there know about NMI interrupts on the C=64? Does anybody want to know about them? Ok, fine!
|
||
541 orget it then!
|
||
542 mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm OUTLAW MIKE mmmmmmmmmmmm
|
||
543
|
||
544
|
||
545 PASDOS
|
||
546 BY
|
||
547 LINNTON SYSTEMS
|
||
548
|
||
549
|
||
550 Portland, Oregon 97231
|
||
551 (503) 286-xxxx
|
||
552
|
||
553 ---- $39.95 INCLUDES SHIPPING ----
|
||
554
|
||
555 PASDOS is a utility program written in Pascal and assembly for the Apple II
|
||
556 computer to allow transfers of files between Dos 3.3 and U.C.S.D
|
||
557 Pascal.
|
||
558 Pasdos will run under both the old and new versions of Apple Pascal.
|
||
559
|
||
560 Using this program one is able to
|
||
561
|
||
562 1..View a Pascal directory or a Dos 3.3 catalog.
|
||
563 A single keystroke command determines and displays
|
||
564 the proper directory (Pascal or Dos) from the drive
|
||
565 selected.
|
||
566
|
||
567 2..Transfer text files in both directions with automatic conversion.
|
||
568 Text files from Dos 3.3 are made compatible with the U.C.S.D.
|
||
569 editor and Pascal compiler. Text files generated with the
|
||
570 Pascal editor are made compatible with many word proccessors
|
||
571 that run under Dos 3.3.
|
||
572
|
||
573 3..Transfer other files with optional addition or removal of the
|
||
574 Dos 3.3 length and starting address header.
|
||
575
|
||
576 4..Use the U.C.S.D. Assembler to generate binary files that
|
||
577 can be 'brun' under Dos 3.3.
|
||
578
|
||
579 5..Demonstrations are included to show you how to transfer and
|
||
580 load hires picture files, and how to use the U.C.S.D
|
||
581 assembler to create binary programs that will run under
|
||
582 Dos 3.3.
|
||
583
|
||
584 6..Various data base programs are written under Dos 3.3 or Pascal.
|
||
585 With Pasdos you can transfer hires graphs to your favorite
|
||
586 operating system for printer dumps etc.
|
||
587
|
||
588 SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
|
||
589
|
||
590 Pasdos requires that you have Pascal and Dos 3.3.
|
||
591 You must have two floppy drives.
|
||
592
|
||
593 **********************************************************
|
||
594 piper: Someone seems to have it in for you. They were performing
|
||
595 wholesale deletes on your message when I happen to get home, I
|
||
596 kicked them off, but I'm not to sure how much got deleted. I'll
|
||
597 fix it up tomorrow. (I promise to get it right this time).
|
||
598 MIiG: Maybe it's time for nurdolux again...
|
||
599 Leonard: You sure you want to start a bbs and put up with these twits?
|
||
600 It's at times like these that I wonder why I bother.
|
||
601 *************************** CISTOP MIKEY *********************************
|
||
602 ****************************************************************
|
||
603 PIPER, AS YOU CAN PROBALY TELL, YOUR MISSING LINES ARE BACK.
|
||
604 THIS TIME I RAN THE DISK THRU THE PROPER PROGRAM. (IT ONLY REPLACED
|
||
605 THE FIRST CHARACTER WITH A SPACE IF IT WAS A FF .
|
||
606 ****** ****** ****** ****** ***** ***** ****** ***** ***** ****:
|
||
|
||
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