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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System)  Mike Day System operator
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19 
20 Backwater personals
21 PAM -- Please come home. All is forgiven. 
22 I promise to pay you for the overtime.
23 Please hurry, the Inn is a mess.
24                        Innkeeper
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26 ''$')#'#%)%%&&$%%"%"(%%%$%$&&&')'$'#$'!"#$%%&'()(''&%$#"!"#$%%&')())&(&(%%)&(&(%)&$&()$))&)$(&%(%($%$()((
27 IAN: Yes you have to format the disks. Please do so ASAP. I about to shoot the CP/M system I am working on. Never before
28 have I seen such a mess. Maybe the stars weren't in conjunction, or maybe it wasn't my day, but I haven't had so many 
29 BDOS errors on A, B, or C, since I last worked on a Northstar. What this all means is that there will some more delay in
30 getting the archives over to the IBM. You will have plenty of time to format your disks. Besides, I had to...shudder...
31 take home a commode 64 today...I am still recovering from shock.
32 Alex : What is the status on getting the archives printed? I managed to find another person who is interested in getting
33 a printed version.
34 Petrov : Glad to hear from you again. Watch out for Orygunians though. They seem to all be a real strange breed.
35 ')%)%)')#%'#%'%"'#%'$$&$$'' L'HOMME SANS PARITY '%)#%(#(%"#'%%)%%)%!)&%)%!&%%&%!%"%!"&%!&%!&%!)%!)&!&!!!%!%
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37 /\/wiggle wiggle giggle giggle
38 
39 Too much of anything is bad,
40 but too much whisky is just enough.
41 
42 ululating like worms in a can.
43 
44 &*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&  Blast Effects?  What's going on here?
45 are you floks crazy?  This
46 "normalizing" of the ubsurd is just that!.
47 &*&*&*&*&**&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&**&*&*&*&*&* jes' me\
48 
49 No, we haven't gone crazy, nor are we wierd. And we aren't floks. Floks never live above the 28th parallel. Har de
50 har har. Migguy. I plan on being here tomorrow at 7 and will call. Unknown guy.
51 This is just a test to see if I can get a message out.
52 save
53 Do I need line numbers?
54 
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58 0707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707
59 TO : ALL NET PERSONNEL
60 FM : NET CENTRAL OPERATIONS
61 RE : RECALL
62 
63 ALL NET PERSONNEL SHOULD HENCE FORTH AND TO WIT RETURN TO BASE
64 IMMEDIATELY. THERE HAS BEEN A SUDDEN CHANGE IN THE MIDDLE EASTERN
65 SITUATION THAT REQUIRES THE ATTENTION OF THE ENTIRE NETWORK. ALL
66 MISSIONS SHOULD BE TERMINATED ASAP. PLEASE CONTACT ADA FOR FURTHER
67 INFORMATION.
68 
69 JOSHUA, L'HOMME, AND GAUDY MINSKEY SHOULD TAKE CARE OF DANGERFIELD
70 AND GET BACK HERE. WE CAN'T HAVE YOU FOOLING AROUND IN RAINDEER
71 FOREVER.
72 
73 ALL CURRENT MISSIONS WILL RE RESUMED WHEN AN ATMOSPHERE MORE CONDUSIVE
74 TO MISSION SUCCESS RETURNS TO THIS AREA..
75 
76 THAT IS ALL.
77 
78 0707070707070707070707070707 AUGUST 26TH, YEAR OF OUR LORD 1984, @ 1:00AM 0707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707
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81 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
82 Mikey:flakey or no, I have plugged in my mini-coco to the wall with this setup.
83 After reseting blown breakers, no apparent effects were noted exxcept the
84 usual loss of program. I have never had the thing false trigger on me.
85 Enough on the EMP discussion, lets get to something realy DIFFERENT!
86 Alex:God, I may never recover, a wonderfull time I don't remember having in a 
87 long while. Come to think of it, this ones kinda hazy too!
88 I think Hawthorne enjoyed himself, I left him on 5th and burnside. He said he
89 had an easyer way to get home. Luck to him.
90 MiG
91 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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94     From a seat at a table near the wall, the piper watched the ebb and flow of
95 the patrons who currently filled the inn.  Draining the last of a glass with a 
96 sigh, he took his pipes and started for the familiar comfort of his room.  On
97 the way, he felt a cold shudder snake up his back.  Shivering slightly, he
98 hurried to the warm comfort of his bed.
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101 
ATTENTION ALL TROOP COMANDERS:
102 
DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT RETURN WITH YOUR TROOPS.  WE HAVE ENCOUNTERED A VERY
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DANGEROUG SITUATION WITH THE APPEARANCE OF OMEGA IN ROME.  TAKE ALL PRECAUTHIONS
104 
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NOT TO LEAVE ANY CANISTERS OF DICHLOROMORPHINE II  IN YOUR AREA.  WE HAVE REASON 
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TO BE
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TO BELIEVE THERE WILL BE  MORE OF THE TYPE OF THING ENCOUNTERED IN LA PAZ.
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109 

110 
GO PLACIDLY AMID THE NOISE AND HASTE AND REMEMBER WHAT PEACE THERE MAY BE IN 
111 
SILENCE.  AS FAR AS POSSIBLE, WITHOUT SURRENDER, BE ON GOOD TERMS WITH ALL 
112 SURRENDER, BE ON GOOD TERMS WITH ALL 
113 
PEOPLE.  SPEAK YOUR TRUTH QUIETLY AND CLEARLY AND LISTEN TO OTHERS, EVEN
114 
THE DULL AND IGNORANT, THEY TOO HAVE THEIR STORY.
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116 
STAY TUNED FOLKS, WE'LL BE BACK LATER-SAY GOODNIGHT GRACY.
117 SAY: WHERE IS EVERYBODY TODAY?
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119 
IT WAS A DARD AND STORMY NIGHT.  THE LAST OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE HAD BEEN FED AND 
120 
MARTHA FELT A TWINGE OF RESENTMENT TOWARD REGGIE.  HE HADN'T CALLED SINCE THEIR
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ARGUMENT ON THURSDAY.  WHY HAD SHE WRONGED HIM? ... WHERE HAD HE GONE?  THE 
122 
RED AND WHITE TABLE CLOTH SEEMED TO REFLECT HER ANGRY MOOD.  DESPIRATE FOR 
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124 
I AM INTERESTED IN TALKING TO ANYONE WHO HAS A WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF 
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ANY OF THE FOLLOWING PROGRAMS: COPY II+, dBASE II, OR DATASTAR.
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PLEASE GIVE ME A CALL - PETE CLARK 246-xxxx - THANKS
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135                          FRANCE IS WONDERFUL!!!!!
137                                             EMMANUEL
138 :+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:
139 Wow, I have never seen Backwater like this.  This sure is a change from the
140 every day routines.  It seems like the wave has arrived at backwater.  It
141 kinda runs in a circle, all these new users I mean.  Well, I can only hope
142 that it gets all fixed-up and everything working again.
143 Well, there's not much to say these days so I'll be seeing you all around
144 someplace.
145 :+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:St.Clair:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+
146 {  ^+/* ---------------- ^+/* ---------------- */+^ ---------------- */+^   }
147 Laissez-faire - Indeed, it a great pleasure to interchange ideas with someone
148    who sees beyond the obvious, and who expresses what they see in eloquent
149    terms. I especially enjoyed the example of wave and sunset as experiential
150    examples of perfection. Once I experienced both together; a moment that I
151    treasure as one of the most beautiful I have ever seen.
152    Erudition is fine, as far as it goes. At some point one needs to leave the
153    comfortable confines of the printed page and set out on a course to obtain
154    their own direct experience in these matters. My experience leads me to
155    believe that the state of perfection and the perception of that state are
156    both gifts, not something one acquires through their own efforts. Many of
157    the exercises that are billed as 'means to acquire perfection' are merely
158    methods to condition the person to accept the gift, if and when it does
159    come along. By the way, you seem to be extremely well read yourself.
160   
161 We are taught that the acquisition of knowledge is of prime importance. In 
162 fact we are advised to acquire any and all information that is available.
163 Now there are even games (trivial) to test our accomplishment in this area.
164 There are some questions few seem to ask. Does acquiring certain kinds of
165 knowledge limit the ability to perceive or learn other things? What is the
166 'Coin of the Realm', which one uses to pay for knowledge? Is it perhaps the
167 loss of innocence?
168   
169 There is another popular modern idea, that perhaps warrants some scrutiny. It
170 says that the way to understand something is to gather enough pieces, then
171 put them together to form the big picture. Certainly this techniques has
172 served well in certain scientific investigations. There are other equally
173 valid methods of understanding. For example, the idea of 'essential nature'.
174 In this process understanding comes through synthesis rather than division.
175 Perhaps they are two parts of the same process, and one part was lost in the
176 translation!
177 {  ^+/* --------------- The Mesolithic Mathematician --------------- */+^   }
178 ***************************************************************
179 IN CASE YOU WERE WONDERING WHY BWMS WAS DOWN, I WAS PERFORMING
180 BACKUPS TODAY BETWEEN 1:30PM AND 5:00PM.
181 L'HOMME: I NOW HAVE 3 MORE DISKS IF YOU ARE INTERESTED. ALSO NOW
182 HAVE AVAILABLE THAT ELUSIVE 20MAY83 FILE TOO. 
183 THE POOR 8 INCH SYSTEM WAS REBUILT, BUT ALASS IT APPEARS THAT
184 ALL THE FILTERS AND STUF WERE OF LITTLE HELP. THIS BEAST IS
185 A VERY NOISY COMPUTER, OBVIOUSLY IT WILL FIGHT ME TO THE BITTER
186 END ON THIS ONE. SIGH.. GOD I HATE COMPUTERS!
187 ****************** CISTOP MIKEY *********************************
188 I do not understand why anyone would take the time trouble and expense to set up
189 this BBS when they hate computers. I sure am glad, though, and appreciate Mikey having done
190 so. Backwater is the only truly interesting board in the area. Thanks, Mikey, It's been fun.
191 Unfortunately, I am moving out of state, and will not be able to log on for a couple of months
192 . And even then, not too often. ( The phone bills--). BUT, you haven't gotten rid of me for
193 ever---. *=*], Lysias, Guest, Unknown Guy, Dorun, etc. I'll miss you guys. (Even Mig). I 
194 will probably move the middle of next week. Mike Shanon
195 (PS- I have lower case now. Fooled Ya! Har de har hr)
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198 YES, YOU GUESSED IT.  TEDDY SALAD IS BACK. BUT NOW IN HIS NEW MOD ERA AND 
199 CRAZIER THAN EVER. SO BE WATCHING FOR THOSE UNBEATABLE MESSAGES FROM THE ONE AND ONLY 
201                            TEDDY SALAD
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207 X.
208 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
209 Unknown guy:What is this "even MiG" garbage? was it not I that paid for your
210 last Bud of the afternoon? I will be here at 7, go fer de xfer.
211 Prometheus:did you get home O.K.? Now you can at least say youve lost a Risk
212 game! (snicker) I will let you know when we do it again.
213 MiG
214 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
215 ::::::::::::::::::::::O O:::::::::::::::::::::O O::::::::::::::::::::::
216 MiG: it sounds interesting!  Tell us more of this fatefull event.
217 Was it an overlooked Japan?  Or a hack-and-slash move West when a cautious
218 advance NorthEast would have been better?  And who was the winner, Alex?
219 Or did... YOU ...finally have your chance at glory!?
220 And did you get Nuclear, or plain vanilla risk?  Did you have to introduce
221 the secret weapon (that infamous orange liquid)?  Details, please!
222 :::::::::::::::::::::::O O:::::::::::::voyeur::::::::::::O O::::::::::::::::
223 
224 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
225 
226   FROM HAWTHORNE: THE DEFEATED
227 
228   GEE, I JUST WOKE UP AND I ALL OF A SUDDEN REALIZED THE BITTER TRUTH; I LOST A RISK GAME!
229 
230   AND IT WAS A PITIFULL LOSS! I HAD ONLY MEAGER STRONGHOLDS THAT DIDN'T EVEN HALFWAY MEASURE THE IMPERVIOUS STRENGTH OF MINE
231 ENEMIES. IKEPT ON FOR A WHILE, UNTIL OF COURSE BART GOT A WILD- EYED LOOK AND SCREAMED "NO MORE MR. NICE GUY!" AND COURTIOUSLY
232 HANDED ME THE VICTIM DICE.
233 
234   AND WHILE I WAS BEING BURIED, SOMEONE ASKED ABOUT SURRENDER ON ALEX'S TERMS. THE SXENE STILLED AND EVERYONE LOOKED TO MIG...
236   MIG CLAIMED MASOCHISM AND THUS ALEX STOLE SOUTH AMERICA RIGHT OUT FROM UNDER HIM. THIS IS WHEN MIG STARTED A PSEUDO-ORANGE-
237 VILE-LIQUID EFFECT!
238 
239   ALEX JUST COULDN'T WIN. TIDES OF WAR TURNED IN MIG'S FAVOR AND FOR TWO HOURS THE FACE OF GOD'S GREEN EARTH WAS SHREDDED IN
240 THE BLOODY RIGHTS OF WAR.
241 
242   BUT ABOUT TWELVE O'CLOCK I AND MIG HAD TO BE GETTING TOWARDS, HOME, AND SLEEP. BUT THAT IS YET ANOTHER STORY. THE OUTCOME OF
243 THE GAME YOU ASK, TECHNICALLY IT WAS ALEX WHO WON BUT IT SIMPLY WAS A JOYLESS VICTORY. I THINK.
244 
245   I AM SORRY, ALEX, FOR BEHAVING MORE AND MORE MY AGE AS EVENING PROGRESSED. IN RETRO-THOUGHT I DON'T REALLY SUPPOSE I SHOULD
246 HAVE QUOTED KLINGONS...
247   BUT THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING, I HAD A FUN TIME.
248 
249   THANKS ONCE AGAIN MIG, AND AS MUCH AS I DOUBTED I WOULD, I DID IN FACT CATCH TRANSPORTATION. I EVEN GOT HOME WITHIN THE HOUR
250 WHICH WAS TWELVE.
252   HOW DID YOU MANAGE?
253   DREAMTOUCHER, T A LOT FOR BRINGING MY TOO-HEAVY PACK ALL THE WAY FROM PC+S TO RADIO SHACK THAT WAS NICE OF YOU.
254 
255   VOYEUR. I MEANT NO OFFENSE.
256   PETROV, TO YOU ALSO I'M SORRY THAT I WAS RUDE. I'LL TRY NOT TO DO THAT AGAIN. REALLY.
257   DEMETER, NICE TO MEET YOU.
258 
259   WELL I SUPOSE I HAD BETTER BE GOING AWAY NOW. SEE YOU LATER IN LIVES, PROMETHEUS HAWTHORNE.
260 
261 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
262 WE HAVE BUT LITTLE TIME LEFT, ARNOLDO, WE MUST MAKE THE MOST OF IT AND 
263 
HOPE THAT THE OTHERS WILL NOT WONDER WHAT HAS HAPPENED.  SET THE TRACERS
264 
AND LET NOT A WORD BE GIVEN TO ANYONE, NOT EVEN YOUR WIFE......NEVER
265 
FEAR, THERE IS ALWAYS THE UNDERGOUND TO OFFER YOU SUPPORT.  CONTINUE 
266 
WITH YOUR MISSION AND "QUE SERRA, QUE SERRA".  REMEMBER, THE WOLF 
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NEVER SLEEPS.  
268 

269 
BRING ME SOME BACON FROM BARCELONA WHEN THE END IS NEAR AND I SHALL
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REWARD YOU WITH THE ULTIMATE GIFT........MY LIFE, LIKE IT OR NOT.
271 

272 
UNTIL LATER, I LEAVE YOU.  ASK NOT FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS - IT
273 
TOLLS FOR RLAPH!
274 Yeah! I heard all about the events of last night.
275 You guys molesting that innocent (blonde was it?)  girl at the bus stop. Hey
276 Migguy, was the number you got 229-xxxx? Just kidding. Boy, you guys must have
277 had a good time. Was L'homme with you? Did he have a roll of duct tape wit 
278 him? Har de har. Dreamtoucher: if you happen to be there, I should be home
279 by no later than 3 PM. Hope that will do. Hope you can find out about the 
280 "Le Deal" by late monday, Tuesday at latest. Mig: Thanks for the try. Maybe
281 when you get a 6809EMP, you will be able to have full duplex. ( the 6809EMP
282 has provisions for this. It is accessed through ROM which is easy to incorp
283 rate into your system. I'll gladly donate to you the EPROM I have, if you can
284 find a way to plug it in. 
285 Don't be concerned with vile orange liquids. It is vile orange home made 
286 tablets that you should beware of. (Signed): Multi-faceted personality. 
287 MY WORK HERE IS FINISHED.  YOU PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO TRY TO SURVIVE ON BEANS
288 
AND WHATEVER ELSE THE MASTER HAS CHOSEN FOR YOU.  
289 

290 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?`? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
295 Prometheus:Got home o.k. if not a wee bit hazy, had to walk a mile or two
296 which was actualy quite fun ifyou remember what condition I`was in.
297 voyeur:prometheus made a much better discription then I could. What happened in
298 essence was Alex/Bart killing Prometheus in wanton bloodlust.
299 Let me explane, Alex went for beer letting Bart take his place, Bart has nothing
300 resembling human compassion and tact. When the`board was 95% red, and`I was 
301 black, I was`offered a`ghavce to acfneng
302 Hum, equipment must be getting overly warm. I was offered a chance to give up.
303 I did not, and in a despirate sweep, ruined 4 expensive Countries for Alex,
304 I got cards first anl t`e`situation `evercEd
305 Crud, I got cards first and the situation reversed itself. Faced with walking 
306 home to troutdale from beaverton I acCeded the gamE to Alex and statrted the 
307 
308 I'M AFRAID WE'LL HAVE TO TUNE IN NEXT TIME FOR THE REST OF THIS FASCINATING
309 STORY
311 
312 MY NAME IS NIETZSCHE AND I HAVE BEEN WATCHING YOU ALL FOR A LONG TIME.
313 I AM IMPRESSED WITH WHAT I HAVE HAD THE GOOD FORTUNE TO SEE AND WITH WHAT I
314 SEE AS A HIGH LEVEL OF TOLERENCE FORBELEIFS.
315 
316 THIS IS NOT THE CASE EVERYWHERE, AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW. I AM WHAT MANY WOULD
317 CALL A RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVE, I KNOW THAT MY MOTHER AND FATHER ARE AFRAID
318 OF ME AND MY VEIWS. I HAVE BEEN BEATEN UP, LECTURED, CONSIDERED TO BE QUITE
319 LITERALLY CRAZY, AND MANY OTBECAUSE OF MY BELEIFS.
320 
321 THERE ARE A FEW HAVENS FOR SOME ONE IN MY POSITION TO DEBATE AND EXPRESS MY
322 VEIWS AND POLITICS. BACKWATER MS IS ONE OF THESE.
323 
324 NIETZCHE IS AN ALIAS (Q.V.) AND I DO MAINTAIN ANOTHER IDENTITY. I'M SURE
325 SOME OF YOU HAVE KNOWN THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW. I AM NEVER EASILY MIST-
326 AKEN.
327 
328   THE REAL NEITZCHE ONCE REFERED TO THE PRICE OF KNOWLEDGE AS " PESSIMISM OF
329 SENSIBILITY " ANOTHER WRITER FOR A TELIVISION SERIES ONCE TERMED IT THIS WAY
330 " I'VE SEEN TOO MUCH TO EVER BE BRIGHT- EYED AND BUSHY- TAILED, AGAIN. "
331 
332   IT IS THEN, NOT RARE TO PONDER THE PRICE OF INTELLECT BUT WHEN MOST PEOPLE
333 DO PONDER IT, THERE IS ALWAYS AN ATTITUDE OF REGRET, OR REMORSE.
336   IF SAY A SMALL LATINO-AMERICAN COUNTRY RENEIGED ON IT'S LOAN; ONLY 33 % OF
337 THAT LOAN WOULD BE FROM AMERICAN BANKS THE REST WOULD BE EUROPES BANKING
338 CENTERS.
339   WHEN VENEZUELA RENEIGED ON ITS COMPARATIVELY SMALL LOAN; INT'L COMMITTEE
340 WAS FORMED WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL THE INTRESTED BANKS IN ORDER TO
341 ABSORB THE COST OF THE LOAN. THE OTHER MAJOR BORROWERS WERE VERY DEFINATELY
342 WATCHING FOR THE OUTCOME OF THIS AS WELL AS MOST OF THE PRESS.
343 
344   IT IS MY BELEIF THAT WHAT WAS ONCE AN ERA OF POSSIBLE ANARCHY TYPE- SOCIAL
345 COLLAPSE IS OVER WITH. OF COURSE IF TWENTY YEARS FROM NOW AN 8" ARCHIVES
346 DISK IS FOUND BENATH THE RUBBLE OF TWISTED STEEL BUILDINGS AND A CORPSE OR
347 TWO THEN I WILL HAVE BEEN A FOOL BUT I DON't THINK I WILL.
348 
349   NOW, WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE ME UNDERSTAND WHAT ZEN IS?
351 ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; NIETZCHE ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
352 <<-<> MIKEY WILL YOU PLACE 333, 334 AND 335 BACK, PLEASE? IF SO THANK YOU.
353 ZEN IS NOT SOMETHING SOMEONE CAN MAKE YOU (OR ANYONE) UNDERSTA
354 XXX THUS SPOKE ZARATHUSTRA. 
355 )*#@)%*#)_%*+!#_(%!+#*%)!#*%)@#*%+*@#%_)*)%*@)%*)*%@+*%*%*%)*%@)_*%@_#)%*_)*
356 Mikey: Yes I am interested. I can't speak for the others. If the price is
357 $5 per disk and you supply the disk, then bring them to the next PCS get-
358 together. I will pay and put on my shylock robes to collect from the others
359 later. Thanks for ressurecting the 20MAY83 file.
360 I have been looking over some of these old files from years gone by. I must
361 retract a previous statement in part regarding BW then and now. The phosphor
362 letters seemed to flow in smooth recourse from the CRT to my eyes. It had
363 been so long since the touching words of the old timers had laid claim to
364 my attention. I can see why you remember the "old days" so fondly: The great
365 debates (remember artificial intelligence and electrical shocks from phones)
366 the great romances (remember Luke and Jody), and so many facinating
367 characters and situations. But I guess, evolution is inevitable, and BW is
368 simply following the normal course of nature.
369 Thanks so much...
370 )*%@#)*%@#_*%@#_)*!%@_% L'homme sans parity - a la memoire de passe' *%)*$%)
371 
372 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
373 Riskers at large,
374                 A joyless victory at best......The teeth marks in the rolling 
375 cup bear witness  to my frustration.....not to mention the divots in the 
376 ceiling from my efforts to castigate the powers that be by launching the 
377 aforementioned cup at the heavens....If one was to pick the one phrase that
378 could best summarize the evening....it would be " SCUM SUCKING DOG "
379 said through clenched teeth following any roll lower than a 2....Needless to 
380 say it was uttered frequently ! and with painful regularity. Never have 
381 so many men died at the hands of " Rollus Ineptitudeus "....and there wasn't 
382 even an empty bottle of the vile orange on the premise. L'homme, perchance did
383 you spill any on the board ?...on the dice ?....the cards ?....the men 
384 themselves ?.....Just to be on the safe side I am sending the whole lot to 
385 Hanford for decontamination....Box and table included. Hopefully to be back
386 by Saturday the 8th of September....when I propose we meet for another 
387 exercise in disproving the laws of probability..
388 L'homme,
389 Indeed I am trying to get things arranged for a hardcopy of the archives
390 but as is always the case .... the proper printer has not yet stayed in town
391 long enough. When one does...The call will go out !
392 By the way have you got anything to counteract the vile orange ?
393 
394 :::::::::::::Alex::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
395 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?`? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
396 I was just typing along, my hardware giving me moderate trouble when ZAP!
397 were talking voltage surge here, and then the joy of watching my screen 
398 shrink to a small lifeless dot. Anybody know`why half of troutdale`was black
399 for 2 hours?
400 MiG
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403 TO PERSON ASKING ABOUT LINES 333 ECT. HUH? THEY LOOK OK TO ME.
404 
L'HOMME: OK, WILL DO NOT SUR HOW TO HANDLE THE 20MAY83 FILE, SINCE
405 THE STANDARD STRUCTURE IS TO FILL THE 8" DISKS AS FULL AS I CAN,
406 THERE AIN'T NO ROOM. MAYBE I SHOULD PLOP IT ON HERE? OR, JUST PROVIDE
407 IT TO YOU ON A 8" DISK OF ITS OWN? (I DO HATE TO WASTE A PERFECTLY
408 GOOD DISK ON A SINGLE FILE THOUGH... 
409 BY THE WAY, THE PRICE FOR NOW IS STILL $4.00 SINCE I STILL HAVE SOME
410 OF AARON'S DISKS LEFT. SPEAKING OF WHICH, MAYBE YOU SHOULD HOLD HIS 
411 DISKS FOR RANSOM. SEEMS THERE HAS BEEN NO MONEY OUTPUT AS OF YET.
412 MIG: MAYBE AN SCR FIRED OFF ON ITS OWN? ERR AHH (SNICKER)
413 ************************ CISTOP MIKEY ********************************
414 P.S. L'HOMME AGAIN: YES, THE SAD PART IS THAT A YEAR FROM NOW WE'LL
415 LOOK BACK AT THIS AND THINK OF IT AS THE GOOD TIMES AS WELL. YUCK!
416 ************************************************************************
417 WELL, I WASN'T AROUND FOR THE TIMES THAT ARE NOW TH GOOD OLD DAYS, BUT
418 I HOPE TO BE AROUND WHEN "NOW" WILL BE THOSE GOOD OLD DAYS. FUNNY THING
419 , NOSTALGIA: OFTEN THE "GOOD OLD DAYS " WEREN'T REALLY BETTER THAN THE 
420 PRESENT. WHICH IS NICE TO THINK ABOUT, WHEN WE DO TINK ABOUT IT---
421 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>                      
422 --Semantic Interlude--
423 k    o     u     oc      e    d      e        q   ar    opl       
424 (Specific symbols randomly arranged)
425                                             
426 Ex ydke. fosdkje dko  fjicjeosk buxple dr owl dk! fipp
427 
428 (Symbols are grouped but lack semantic value. Grammatical rules are
429 nonexistent)
430 
431 
432 A kiosk ate strangely. Twelve watches watched windows. Give the dog a 
433 tune up, please. Leave my nostril under your plate?
434 
435 (Symbols are grouped grammatically but still lack semantic value)
436 
437 
438 The heart of the fool is in his mouth, but the mouth of the wise is 
439 in his heart.  An investment in knowledge pays the best interest.
440 
441 (Symbols are grouped following the rules of grammar. Semantic value 
442 is present.  This is the only arrangement that communicates information)
443 
444 ???  HOW WOULD YOU CATAGORIZE YOUR MESSAGE  ?????????????????????
445 
446          Gerry
447 
448 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
449 
450 SAVE?
451 Well, I'd categorize mine as clever, witty, origina, entertaining, well
452 written, socially redeeming bull----. *=*]. (Yes, I'ts me, but with this
453 ColorCom E, I can't get a left bracket.)
454 
455 *************************************************************
456 ADDENDUM TO PREVIOUS MESSAGE, WONDER OF WONDERS, NOT 15 MINUTES
457 AFTER LEAVING THE PREVIOUS MESSAGE, AAON STOPPED BY AND PRODUCED
458 THE MONEY. (MAYBE WE CAN HOLD OUT FOR MORE RANSOM MONEY?)
459 ********************* CISTOP MIKEY ****************************
460 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?`? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
461 Mikey:I can see it now, every breaker from my house to PGE is rusted closed
462 The 50 amp/600 volt SCR crowbars the whole of troutdale into darkness.
463 I feel SO GUILTY!
464 Pardon, but I must go tune-up my dog, and retrieve my left nostril.
465 MiG
466 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
467 ********************************************************************
468 HEY, WHO KNOWS AT THIS RATE I MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO BUY A 212A FOR
469 BWMS IN A FEW YEARS..... (THAT OR BLOW IT ALL ON A PIZZA)
470 ********************** CISTOP MIKEY *******************************
471 Migguy- good thing it runs on batteries, no? Hey, wat was that stuff 
472 about my Radio Shack equipment? And you are gonna buy he same? Har de 
473 har har. Unknown guy
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475 -
476 Would you believe this is a test of my Commodore 64 ? ? ?
477 -
478 4
479 I JUST GOT A MPP 1000C MODEM AND THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST BBS'
480 THAT I HAVE CALLED
481 !#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!
482 So, are there any Pascal (Apple) modem programs out there? I
483 am having a hard time finding one that will work.  If you have
484 any books that would help me or tyhe software itself could you
485 leave names of them and where I can get them?  THanKS.
486 "The good ol' days", That is probably the most common words in
487 the english language.  Some day they will look back into the 
488 dutly ol forgotten floppy disks, stick then into these old
489 out-of-date computers and say, "These were the GOOD ol' days".
490 Maybe?  Maybe not.  These computers will be set in the BIG
491 warehouse in the sky, right next to the GREAT invention of
492 the Vacume tube.  What will be the "Talk of the day" then?
493 How about transportation in the future?  Music?  Clothes?
494 Styles?  Food?  Hairstyles?  world hunger?  Housing?  What will
495 it be like after our graves have been forgotten?  Who knows,
496 the person of the future that might be reading this might be on
497 another planet, Space Syation, under the see in a homing comunity
498 where people grow up, have children then pass on the family name.
499 Or, another race altogether different than ours is now.  Maybe they
500 only know what we look like from old history books.  Maybe one of
501 them is eating his dinner off of this disk because they don't
502 even know what it is.  Neat questions huh?  If BWMS residents
503 are looking for something to talk about this might be an interesting
504 topic to do it on.  I know I have had fun typing this in tonight.
505 What will becaome of the society that we live in today, will it only
506 live in history text books, stidied by future student who will still
507 say "Why do we have to read this old junk!".  And who also eat all of
508 the monday suprise that we never ate.  
509 The "high tech" that are known today will be on display in the local
510 museum of ancient history.  They only look at them and wonder what
511 they did, and why we invented them or why we used them.  Only a few
512 would still work, being tested against all of the newer machines and
513 loosing horibly.  They will wonder how we could stand for such slow'
514 and meaningless tools as they look at thier own and say "Now there is
515 a MACHINE!".  Machines that we can only dream about today.
516 
517 Ok, there is a start on a different subject.  I'll stop now, not because
518 my fingures are tired but I don't HOG the topic.  Hope to see some replys.
519 And don't forgett about that Pascal QUestion at the top.
520 

521 !#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!Mark#!#!#!#!#!#!
522 One thing that will be 'around' forever is music. When Michael Jackson, Elvis
523 , and yes, even Grand Funk Railroad, have been forgotten, there will still
524 be Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Mahler---
525 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
526 YOU FORGET THAT THE BEATLES WILL STILL LIVE, THEM AND THE 'STONES
527 +++++++++++00000001TED++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
528 AH, YES, THE BEATLES. WHERE WERE YOU IN THE FALL OF 1963, WHEN THEY MADE TEIR
529 DEBUT ON ED SULLIVAN? 
530 There was this guy who wanted to build a backyard BBQ. He went down to Anaheim
531 Builders Supply, and got bricks, mortar, etc, and started building it. As 
532 he was almost finished, he realized that he was one brick short. He went back
533 to get it, but the salesman told him they only sold bricks by twos. (computer
534 ized inventory, etc). Well, the guy didn't like thi very much, but he ante 
535 wanted to get it done, so he bought two. After he hd completed the BBQ, he 
536 started to really get steamed up. So he went back to Anaheim Builders Supply
537 and demanded a refund. NO said the salesman. "So what am I supposed to do 
538 with this brick?" asked the guy? "I don't care" said the salesman. Well, they
539 argued for a while, and then the salesman said "Why don't you (DELETED). The
540 guy didn't want to do that with the brick(!), so he just threw it (the brick)
541 up in the air. And that's the end of the joke.
542 Okay, Guys; I now can claim lower case. Somehow sixteen straight hours of debug in a language I don't even have more than bare
543 association with doesn't seem worth it...
544 
545 Oh yesI must ask that you tolerate me, and what I'm sure will be oodles of errors 'til i get this terminal perfected. Please?
546 
547 Man In Grey; I did it, and I'm proud!
548 Alex; What can i further do?
549 
550 WELL, ERRORS IS CORRECT; DELUGE TERMINAL PROGRAM DISINTEGRATED HERE. I'LL FIX, AND SEE YOU LATER IN LIVES... PROMETHEUS(!)
551 
552 Uh, er excuse me but this is simply Prometheus again, trying Deluge terminal again. Thank you, Mikey for 'xt'. Sd8408.28
553 ***************************************************************
554 What?! You mean my poor old tube amplifiers are obsolete?
555 Golly, what ever shall I do? I think I'll just keep them,
556 they work perfectly well, and sound good too. Besides, they
557 hav sentimental value as I designed and built them myself.
558 (I guess that dates me huh?) I do have a transsistorised amp
559 as well, the tube amps are my backup units that I use when
560 something goes wrong with the transsistor amps. Currently
561 the transistor amp is sitting in a corner with a blown driver
562 transistor (40410) The only thing about the tube amp that
563 is not as good as the transistor amp is that it isn't as
564 powerful. But, since the tube amps have all the power I need,
565 that isn't really a problem. My quad system sounds just fine 
566 them thank you. 
567 *********************** CISTOP MIKEY ***********************
568 Mikey! You remember tubes? I remember tubes. 6L6's in push pull parallel. Dc on 
569 the filaments. Hum anyway. Humungous power transforers, ultra linear output
570 transformers---. Solid state notwithstanding, them as good old days.
571 **************************************************************
572 REMEBER THEM? I WAS WEENED ON TUBES.  AT THE TIME,TRANSISTORS WERE
573 JUST INTERESTING PLAY TOYES. ALL SERIOUS DESIGN WORK WAS STILL
574 BEING DONE WITH TUBES. AS A RESULT, IT TOOK ME UNTIL 1970 BEFORE I
575 REALLY UNDERSTOOD TRANSISTORS. ODDLY, IT WAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF TTL
576 LOGIC THAT BROKE THRU THE BARIER, ONCE I FINALLY UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS
577 REALLY HAPPENING INSIDE THE BEASTS, I THEN UNDERSTOOD HOW THE TRANSISTOR
578 REALLY WORKED. UNFORTUNALY, NOW I SEEM TO HAVE FORGOTEN HOW TUBES WORK!
579 LETS SEE, ARE THEY PNP OR NPN.....
580 ********************* CISTOP MIKEY ******************************
581 I'll try again.. Hello Pam? Are you out there?
582 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
583 MY FATHER HAS A TUBE AMP THAT WORKS PERFECTLY WELL, AFTER I FIX WHAT I BROKE ON 
584 IT. HEY MIKE, IF YOU READ THIS, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT USUALLY CAUSES A CRACKLING 
585 NOISE IN A TUBE AMP? ONE THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN AMPLIFIED ARC LIGHT. (GADS) 
586 (I TESTED ALL TUBES AND THEY WORK PERFECTLY) I LEARNED SOMETHING ABOUT TUBES BEC
587 AUSE OF MY OWN CURIOSITY. THE DESIGNS THAT I JUST LOVE TO FIX ARE THE HYBRID MIX
588 ES OF TUBES AND TRANSISTORS. A MESS. I ALSO HAVE A 25 YEAR OLD B/W TV THAT IS EN
589 TIRELY TUBES. I REGULARLY GIVE IT INFUSIONS OF PARTS, TUBES AND ONCE EVEN A SCRA
590 P TUNER THAT COULD BE CONNECTED TO A UHF TUNER. THAT TV HAS TAKED QUITE A BEATIN
591 OVER THE YEARS AND I WONDER IF IT WILL OUTLAST ME.  NO ONE SHOULD FORGET TUBES, 
592 AFTER ALL, YOU ARE PROBABLY STARING INTO ONE. 
593 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++0000001TED++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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