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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask...
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2 ********************** REMOVED: 28 AUG 84 *******************************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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4 *************************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
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6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is
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10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which
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11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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12 *** I AM THE MONITOR ***
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13
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14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the
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15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace
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16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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18 ************************************************************
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19
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20 Ah, good, the dreamers have wandered off, and the arguers are back.
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21 Read the a&b disks yesterday, but they were full so I couldn't slip
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22 in any snide comments, and now it seems that both are gone, and a new
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23 one has taken their place. ?What has passed by in between?
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24
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25 It wasn't the telephone system in Hawaii that died from the Bikini
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26 tests, it was the streetlights. EMP may be able to zap solidstate
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27 electronics directly, but the major effect is to cause huge induced
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28 surges on the power lines. Anything attached to the AC power lines
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29 can be zapped by EMP, or it can be connected to any long wires at all,
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30 like aboveground phone lines. CB antennas are too short to worry about,
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31 if it gets this, you're dead anyway from the blast.
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32 As to how it works, a nuke above the atmosphere sends out a lot of ions
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33 and electrons, which travel at different speeds, and when they hit the
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34 ionosphere (heavyside layer) push it around. This large moving charge is
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35 called electrical current, and creates a magnetic pulse. The wavelength
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36 is long, but the pulse is fast, so high freqs exist. A big nuke has a
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37 very sharp, powerful, but not very long ranging effect by itself, but
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38 this is of interest only to heavily shielded military installations
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39 because only they are around long enough to care. The high burst is
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40 probably able to zap most of the US's power systems, and take out just
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41 about anything connected to it on the way. The phone system would go,
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42 too, because it is powered from AC. (Surge proctection is already in
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43 the phone lines because of lightning, etc., and the smaller wire used
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44 offers some attenuation, but don't be holding a phone during a nuclear
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45 attack.) Even if your equipment is shielded, it will get it from the AC
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46 line. Battery powered things are probably safe, unless connected to long
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47 wires.
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48
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49 I also like the "none of the above", especially if it neans "never, ever
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50 again." However NOTA is not enough, politics runs on power, not opinion,
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51 so it is not an effective vote unless nearly a majority.
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52 Casting a vote for a noncandidate may feel good, or even seem like a good
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53 idea, but is ineffectual. It is a way of saying something, but like all
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54 communication, what is said and what is heard is not always the same.
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55 If the person to whom you are trying to say something can't understand
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56 you, you aren't talking, you're babbling, and who listens to a babbling
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57 idiot? You have to say your message so that it will be understood.
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58 To a politico, this means you must vote for someone with some chance of
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59 winning, or at least who will get a large portion of the vote. That is to
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60 say, will have power. No one else counts. Don't let your pride get in
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61 the way of your head.
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62
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63 Enough stale politics, here's another point to ponder, or even argue
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64 about: in a society, many things an individual does affects others, so
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65 it is correct for the society as a whole to declare rules about behavior.
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66 The passage of information can both help and hurt citizens, so the means
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67 of passing information must be controlled. Electronic bulletin boards,
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68 like BWMS, or CBBS, are an especially dangerous example because they
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69 are uncontrolled and fast. Laws should exist to properly regulate them,
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70 and government agencies should be empowered to enforce these laws, lest
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71 they be abused to the detriment of society. They may be so dangerous they
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72 should be banned altogether.
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73 .............................................B.A.D........................
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74 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?`? ? ?/
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75 IAN:it may seem that you have an unbeliever in your midst who does not think
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76 that`exploding wires will erase mag-anything that isn't shealded. Shall wg
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77 we`build?
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78 Alex:The light bus has to go, I lit a candle near the prototype last night.
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79 MiG
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80 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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81 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^
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82 The reference was to the classical Rhetoricians statement to the
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83 pure logician. If everything I say is a lie, then this is a lie also,
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84 which means that everything I say cannot be a lie. That confouded
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85 the logicians because they thought in terms of either or, and not
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86 shades of gray. (or grey, if you prefer MiG) The correct solution
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87 to that particular dilemma was the simple fact that that statement was
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88 false, ie, not everything that I say is necessarily a lie.
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89
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90 I am, however, equivocating. The answer to your question is yes. Laz
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91 believes everything he writes. If you have read Illusions, you will
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92 remember a statement therein-
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93 "Try to live your life so as to never be ashamed of anything that is
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94 said or written about you, even if what is said or written is
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95 not true."
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96
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97 On another subject- W O W ! ! ! Now that was a speech.
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98
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99 And our Democratic VP Candidate did not want to disclose her
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100 financial position because:
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101 A) She is rich, and the Demo's are supposed to hate the rich.
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102 B) She owes a bundle in back taxes, which the Demo's are saying the
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103 rich always get away with.
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104 C) Her husband illegaly borrows money from estates he is supposed
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105 to be disbursing honestly.
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108 I would feel nervous about disclosure if I were her.
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110 DA seems a little wierd.
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112 Barry was a reference to Dave Barry, and a piece he did on arguing.
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114 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$ Laissez-faire $^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^
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116 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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118 L'homme,
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119 Well this lull was being called the " pause that refreshes " .....But
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120 it seems to have become the " refreshless pause ". This low volume wallowing
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121 has become a market habit recently. I still feel there are good prospects
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122 for a rise in the not to distant future....provided it starts within the
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123 next 60 days or so...after then the managers start looking at locking in their
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124 profit before year end and are reluctant to provide any stimulus. Except in
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125 the face of something overwhelming & unexpected.
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126 My views on future economic prosperity......are colored by the almost
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127 opaque tint of " DEFICIT ". We bought ourselves out of the recession and its
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128 time we started paying for it !. Weather it takes the form of higher taxes
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129 (YUCK), decreased spending or any of the more creative combinations, the
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130 payments must start. Both parties seem to agree on that so at least the
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131 first steps towards a solution have been taken. All that remains is what
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132 form the repayment will take. It is interesting to note the encouragement
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133 of foreign investment.....As Americans and residents we can only hold
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134 government obligations in registered form....Foreign non-residents can hold
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135 the same securitys in bearer form. This disconcerting double standard due to
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136 take effect at the first of the year. I should note that currently there are
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137 a few bills in congress to outlaw that policy....But back to the economy...
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138 In total I feel the solution to the deficit is well within our power
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139 to correct...and will be done so in the forseeable future. If I was to
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140 characterize the single greatest threat to the economy it would be Third
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141 World debt. That is a problem that defies a cheap solution !.
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142 I know...I have heard all the jokes about repossesion and auctions...
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143 but there has yet to be a solid move to address the growing problem.
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144 As it stands now it is just a patchwork quilt of borrowing facilities,
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145 debt reschedulement and interm financing. Even in some cases the suspension
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146 of accruing interest...so that the lending institution won't be forced to
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147 classify the loan ! ! . If you wanted a topic with a lot of facets this
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148 would be it !. I have most of the pertinant datum around here....somewhere....
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149 As to who lent who how much and at what rate..if I remember correctly the
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150 figures are astonishing somewhere in the 220-250 billion range...or as
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151 percentage of the total assets of the 10 largest banks....25-35 %....
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152 at a rate of prime + 1/4 or libor + 1/2 to P+2 or L+3....even the repayment of
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153 interest is staggering...............But I have rambled on long enough.
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154
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155 ::::::::::::::Alex::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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156 MiG,
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157 Darn......That was such a unique feature...so simple to use...I guess
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158 its BTTDB....::::::::::::::::::::::::::A::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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159 <+|+> {159} 08241412
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160 *(%@#_)(%+*(%+@*%+!*#%+*!%*@_)#*%@)_*@#)_*%_)@#*%!)*%!#_)*%)_@#*%)_@*%)_@*%_
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161 Alex: I remember reading quite a bit about the foreign debt also. We can
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162 thank coutries like Brazil and Poland for our misfortunes in the future.
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163 While we in the US complain about double digit inflation of 10-12 percent,
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164 other countries have TRIPLE digit inflation. One example is Israel, where
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165 the current rate os somewhere over 200%!
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166 It seems to me, with so much of world society banking on the
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167 international money flow, a large country with a large debt like Brazil
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168 could have a much more damaging effect on world economy than our "little"
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169 debt here in the US. If foreign investements decline, and the large banks
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170 who have billions in loans to countries like Brazil fail, economic
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171 pandamonium will result. Easy solution? Like you said, there is none. It
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172 will take many years of careful action to reduce the burden these
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173 countries carry. It doesn't look like there is even a complicated way out.
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174 I think the world has purchased an enormous debt. It's really scary.
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175 The United States has long been considered the life boat of the world.
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176 I think it is time to leave the area of the disaster, and try to care for
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177 the occupants already on board. Foreign aid...Can we stop it? What about
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178 our allies? Can we leave them out in the cold? But can we continue to
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179 spend millions that we don't have? Somewhere there must exist an answer.
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180 There must be a way to stop this death spiral of deficit spending. It
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181 would be interesting to see what Reagan would do if he was elected. I have
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182 heard it often said that it would be better to elect a President for one
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183 six year term, with no chance of re-election. This would free the Prez
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184 from worrying about losing votes by his actions. A one-shot pres. would
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185 solve many of the problems associated with the re-election strain. While
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186 Reagan is campaigning, who is running the country? Al Haig? People seem
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187 to forget that while the president is out stirring up votes and giving
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188 empassioned speaches, the country marches on. I worry about the day when
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189 some crisis comes up, and the president striving for re-election is out
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190 on some farm in Nebraska telling some farmer how his wheat and corn is
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191 going to be worth more next year. They take precautions, but are they
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192 enough? I wonder what would happen... Well enough of this.
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193 As for Risk, anytime in the next few weekends is fine with me. If
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194 you are sufficiently recovered from our last fest, then you set the date.
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195 I am sure the rest of us can agree to that.
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196 *%)#*%)@#*%)@#*%@)#&% L'homme sans parity *)#*)@#*%*%_(%_#*%@#_*%@#_*%@_#*%@
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197 _________________________________________________________________________
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198 DISTINCTIONS
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199
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200 A businessman is aggressive; a businesswomen is pushy.
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201 He's careful about details; she's picky.
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202 He's a stern taskmaster; she's difficult to work for.
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203 He's forceful and charismatic; she's domineering.
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204 He's efficient and competent; she's compulsive.
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205 He follows through; she doens't know when to quit.
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206 He isn't afraid to say what he thinks; she's opinionated.
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207 He exercises authority; she's tyrannical.
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208 He's strongwilled; she's stubborn.
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209 He makes wise judgements; she reveals her prejudices.
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210 He's prudent; she's obsessive.
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211 He loses his temper because he's so involved in the job; she's bitchy.
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212 He's depressed (or hung-over); she's moody, so it must be her time
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213 of the month.
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214 He's discrete; she's secretive.
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215 He's shrewd; she's scheming.
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216 He's outraged; she's hysterical.
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217 He's articulate; she's gabby.
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218 He's curious; she's nosey.
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219 He's a man of the world; she's "been around".
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220 He's absent minded; she's scatterbrained.
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221 He's easygoing; she's frivolous.
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222 He converses; she gossips.
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223 He's concerned; she's emotionally involved.
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224 He's touched; she `turns on the tears'.
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225 He's thoughtful and considerate; she's oversensitive.
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226 ____________________A WORD FROM THE WISE - PART XI_______________________
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227
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228 Word from the wise-you were, I presume, being facetious. Nevertheless prt of
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229 what you say is true,which is one reason we don't ned a woman VP.
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230 RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY
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231 Mig: So sorry, but I have GREAT difficulty believing that you get
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232 a 200 mile kill radius from even a 200 Mton bomb. When things get a bit less
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233 hectic, I'll dig out the handbooks & give a MINIMUM estimate for the
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234 required blast.
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235 I don't care to build the "mag pulse bomb" as I do NOT have access to
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236 the required explosives. Neither do I have sufficient experience in handling
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237 said explosives. (I also seem to recall that the BLAST effects went to about
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238 10 feet!
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239
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240 L'homme: HELLO???? You didn't answer my question. DO I NEED TO FORMAT THE
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241 DISKS??????????????
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242 Ian MacHinery
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243 RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY
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244 hey, what is this? I just called a number that was to have a computer
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245 answer...this occured...but what is this? Who set this up and for what
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246 purpose??
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247
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248 exit
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249 <+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+>>
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250 HI ELRIC
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252 THIS IS ASP. MY AGE IS 17 AND MY GRADE IS 12. I LIVE IN A PORT
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253 LAND A BIG TOWN NORTH OF WILSONVILE.
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255 I HAVE HAD SOME EXPERIENCE WITH D&D.I AM A SF READER BUT I HAVE A
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256 LOUSEY END GAME,HOWRVER I AM TRYING TO GET BETTER.
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257 SO, IF INTERISTED WHAT NEXT? I CHECK BWMS WHEN EVER I CAN GET ON
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258 SO LONG FOR NOW.
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262 ASP
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263
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264 PS.HOW IS STORMBRINGER DOING?
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265 PPS.I WILL BE OUT OF TOWN MONDAY AND TEUSDAY,BUT I WILL BE ON BWMS
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266 BEFFOR THAT.IF ON SOME SLIGHT CHANCE YOU DONT GET A CHANCE TO REPLY BE
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267 FOR THEN I WILL TALK TO YOU ON WENSDAY.
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268
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269
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270 <+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>+<+>
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274 ********************************************************************
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275 F FIN: My god! they actually upgraded something on one of those beasts?!!
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276 I didn't think they even knew how the old stuff worked!
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277
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278 Mig: The first step is to make sure that your grounds are real grounds
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279 like I said before. The next step is to put zero-inductance bidirectional
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280 transzorbs on the lines. Since the little buggers cost $5 to $10 each
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281 though, you might consider going with the poormans tranzorb, a zener
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282 diode. A transzorb is just a speacial zener diode that uses silver
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283 contacts and special doping to get fast response times. (under a pico
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284 second - how much under, they aren't sure since the tranzorbs act faster
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285 then the mesuring equipment.) Anyhow, a couple of zeners back to back
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286 will do for most things. They worked quite well for me when I was putting
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287 the afore mentioned computer back into shape. And 10cents is a whole bunch
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288 cheaper then $10! then idea is to stop the vlotage spike on the line
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289 before it hits the computer. There are limits to this of course, The
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290 normal methode of failure for a zener is to short out which helps in
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291 this case since if it was that bad, you would rather have to replace
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292 the zener then the computer. But, if the zap is big enough to burn open
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293 the zener, (we're talking wire melting power here) then it just kinda
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294 melts into a little blubbering blob of chared sillycon. Luckily, about
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295 the only thing that would be that strong, is ploping ac line power on
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296 the beast, (assuming the fuses didn't blow first) or a direct hit by
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297 lightning. The point here is that the zeners can stop lots of volts
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298 from wasting your poor computer, but they can only go so far in the
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299 amperage dept. Of course if your are paranoid, there are 10KW transzorbs
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300 available, and they can be paralleled.......
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301 ************************ CISTOP MIKEY *******************************
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302 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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303 IAN:What?!? a little explosives bother you? Actualy I was refering to the
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304 much less dangerous technique where you explode a thin copper wire with gobs
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305 of wats. No blasting involved. A great way to get loud radios on a tri-mess
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306 bus to quit being loud.
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307 Mikey-under a pico-second? I may invest for somethin like that when I
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308 get equipment worth something. For now, the zeners at 15 volts trip feeding
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309 a BIG SCR crowbar circuit is what I will use.
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310 I forgot who it was, but someone suggested using some wierd 6809
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311 configuration. I am using 6803 and 6805, not too much different except that
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312 the 6803 has my serial port and my sound generator in it! and the software
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313 re-writes would kill me. I guess I will just put the thing in a large wire
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314 box when not in use. The 6805 system that is, the 6803 is trash.
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315 MiG
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317 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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318 Migguy. If you want, I will send you information on the 6809 kit I mn-
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319 tioned. The only problem with this is heat. The 6809EMP gets hot when
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320 used yhis way, but usually works OK if you use a copper heat sink under
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321 the lead shielding. There is a ML program that comes with it, which auto-
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322 matically switches CPU chips if the one being used should be damaged.
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323 Brcause of the special configuration, when it switches, the DP register
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324 becomes 'confused' and the CCR (1) reads overflow. This is easily corrected
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325 by pokeing 0 into 65494, waiting a few seconds, and then resetting the
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326 machine. The data will still be in the buffer, and can be recalled. Then
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327 poke 0 into 65494 to return the SAM chip to normal speed (remember to
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328 do this, or you will get I/O when you try to load to disc or print. Let
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329 me know if you are interested.
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330 jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
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331 Hi! I'm back. I doubt if I'll make PorSFiS tommorow because
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332 I have to help somebody move. It seems as if everything has decayed
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333 into an argument on EMP. Well, have a great evening and I'll see
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334 you all in the dreamscapes. (Except, of course, for MiG because he's
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335 a vampire and only sleeps in the day.)
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336 The Ninja
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337 jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
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338 What? Migguy is a vampire? Fascinating. My grandfather was a vampire.
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339 Untill he crash landed on a picket fence.
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340 COLECOVISION FOR SALE!
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341 5 CARTRIDGES:ZAXXON, DONKEY KONG, DONKEY KONG JR.
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342 VENTURE, AND TURBO PLUS STEERING MODULE.
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343 LIKE NEW!!! $250.00 OR BEST OFFER.
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344 CONTACT JASON AT 285-xxxx, ASK FOR JASON.
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345 *****************************************
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346
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347 /S
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348 SAVE
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349 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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350 UNKNOWNGUY:I AM PLANNING ON GETTING A COCO WHEN RS APPROVES MY CREDIT RATING
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351 TILL THEN I AM STILL USING THE 6805 TERMINAL. THE 6809 STUFF DOES SOUND
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352 INTERESTING, BUT ONE COMES TO AN IMPASS RATHER QUICKLY. I.E. YOU DON'T KNOW
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353 WHO I AM, AND I THE SAME FOR YOU. BOTH ARE UNWILLING TO TELL THE OTHER.
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354 DO YOU KNOW SOMEONE ELSE ON BACKWATER WHO WE CAN USE FOR A TRANSFER?
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355 NINJA:I THOUGHT I HID IT BETTER THEN THAT. OH WELL, WHEN HIGH-SCHOOL COMES
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356 AROUND SEPTEMBER 5TH. I MUST LEARN LIGHT TOLLERENCE. BY THE WAY, THE LITTLE
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357 TM DISCUSSION YOU STARTED ON C.S.F. HAS GROWN A LOT, BUT WILL BE CLEARED
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358 SOON DUE TO CARL DOING AS YET SOMETHING UNKNOWN TO THE SYSTEM.
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359 PERHAPS YOU COULD DOWNLOAD IT?
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360 MIG
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361 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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362 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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363 YOU EMP GUYS, A PULSE WILL DO WONDERS TO INCREASE THE POWER LINE VOLTAGE, BU
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364 T THE INDUCED LINE CURRENT WILL ONLY CLIMB TO THE LINE RATING AND SOMEWHAT
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365 ABOVE DUE TO THE LOADING EFFECTS OF THE LINE, AND LINE SWITCHES. FURTHER,
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366 THE VOLTAGE CAN ONLY RISE SO HIGH, UNTIL IT WILL ARC OVER THE INSULATORS TO
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367 GROUND. THE EFFECT CREATED IS ON THE ORDER OF A BIG STATIC DISCHARGE, PULSE
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368 OR NOT. IN FACT, SINCE IT IS A SHORT DURATION PULSE, THE LINE CAPACITANCE ON
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369 LONG LINES(YES, THATS CAPACITANCE) MAY ABSORB IT. IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN THE OS
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370 CILLOSCOPE TRACE OF A SQUARE WAVE HITTING A CAPACITOR , YOU WILL GET THE
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371 IDEA. ELECTRICIAL POWER IS STRANGE, SAY DIRECT CURRENT AND NOBODY CARES, SAY
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372 FREQUENCY, OR PULSE AND PEOPLE THINK YOU HAVE THE HOTTEST THING SINCE TESLA.
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373 ++++++++++++ AS FOR THE DEFICIT, THE INTERESTING THING IS THAT IT IS ALL
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374 MONEY THAT WE AMERICANS OWE TO OURSELVES. IF WE WENT BANKRUPT, WOULD WE SUE
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375 OURSELVES? (DONT ANSWER THAT) . TO THE PERSON WHO TALKED ABOUT A 6 YEAR TERM
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376 , IF THAT WERE THE TERM THEN THE INCUMBENT WOULD STILL BE OUT CAMPAIGNING
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377 WITH JUST AS MUCH ENERGY, ONLY THEY WOULD BE CAMPAIGNING FOR THEIR PARTY,
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378 NOT FOR THEMSELVES. +++++++++++++++
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379 ON FOREIGN BANKING, EVENTUALLY, THE PATCHWORK QUILT WILL CONSISTS OF STRANDS
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380 ALONG WHICH NO MONEY FLOWS, AS EVERYONE STOPS PAYMENT ON PRINCIPLE OR
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381 INTEREST, THIS IS ALREADY HAPPENING, AND THEN THE GREAT "CRASH" WILL EXIST
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382 ON PAPER ONLY. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++0000001TED++++++++++++++++++++++
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383 0001TED- part of what you say is accurate, but is irrelevant to the issue
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384 which is that the EMP is a serious problem. If one large hydrogen bomb
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385 is detonated from a satellite a hundred miles above the Earths surface
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386 the resultant EMP causes disruption of communications. OK- not everything
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387 is affected. But-some damage will occur to unprotected equipment. If SOME
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388 communication is interrupted, the result could be a total nuclear exch
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389 between the USSR and the US. For example: Many countries now have satelites
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390 (if you want a list, I have one). There are a numbe of nations that have
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391 the proverbial bomb. Ergo, one radical group, one remote detonated bomb
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392 from a satellite, and we have potential chaos. There is an article in,
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393 I believe, Scientific American, (and other articles elsewhere) that
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394 that theorize that such a single detonation would cause serious disrup-
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395 tion to communications over much of the northern heisphere. If ANY dis
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396 ruption in communication between us and 'the russians' were to occur at
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397 such a time, the potential result could be all out war. Maybe it wouldn't
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398 happen. Maybe it would. The point is that it COULD happen. That is why
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399 the EMP is such a big deal. You are partly right in your statement about
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400 what it is. A nuclear explosion causes countless trllions of electrons
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401 to be 'knocked' out of the outer shell of the atoms /molecules of what
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402 makes up the atmosphere: Nitrogen, Oxygen, water vapor, trace gasses
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403 (Xenon, Argon, etc). These electrons tend to form 'lines' parallel to
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404 the magnetic flux lines of the Earths magnetic field, and 'condense' on
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405 any conducting material. Antennas, eg. which causes a surge of current
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406 (which is, of course the flow of electrons) that can overload the input
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407 circuits such as RF Amplifiers, Oscillator/mixer stges,even the IF stages
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408 or the detector. The result is obvious. The EMP is a serious problem for
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409 two nations who are always ready to fight, but don't want to since they
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410 both lose.
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411 A square wave 'hitting' a capacitor? Do you mean th result of capacitace
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412 applied to the output of a square wave generator? The result could be
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413 a sawtooth wave, or whatever, depending on the amount of capacitance,
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414 and the time constant, and other factors. Could you be more vague?
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415 Migguy- I didn't say we didn't know each other, and I didn't say I would
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416 not tell you who I am. You said that. If you do buy a COCO, you might
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417 consider buying an older one, and not the COCO II. Try to find one with
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418 an "F" board. It has several advantages. For one, you can use the 'high
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419 speed poke which causes the SAM chip to run from 1.5 to 3 times faster.
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420 (Put a GOOD heat sink on it). This runs your programs that much faster.
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421 Also, using a disc drive is less expensive. Also, dn't buy any R.S. soft
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422 ware. Check into 80+, Bee Color in Aloha, etc. PS The 6809EMP is upward
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423 compatible, so programs written for other 6800 series CPU's should run
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424 100% (at least machine language programs). If you'll tell me how to acss
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425 the NERD, I'll tell you more. PPS, I DO know who you are. Star date EDEN
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426 152. Har de har har, and nyaah nyah (etc)
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427 ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
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428 With slow, deliberate steps I moved towards the multi-bladed beast which
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429 would thrust me into the vast blue heavens that smiled generously on the sun-
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430 drenched earth. Alas, neither warmth of sun nor gentle caress of summer breeze
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431 could ease torment of a sorrow laden soul.
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432 Glorious dreams
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433 crumbled to dust,
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434 and iron-clad schemes
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435 riddled by rust
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436
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437 Two men with wits fleet
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438 and once full of life
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439 lie dead at my feet,
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440 blood on my knife
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441
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442 Twisted visions of might
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443 and a craving for power
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444 will smother all light -
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445 enter the darkest hour.
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446
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447 I snapped out of the trance and found myself on the helicopter. I had climbed
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448 aboard and we had lifted off without my realizing it. My mind was absorbed by the
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449 problems I had created for myself. Now I was headed for the one place that
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450 could save me--spiritual contentment to be found only at the largest religious
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451 festival in the world. I think the place was called RAINdeer.
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452 <time passes>
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453 The land beneath me was green and beautiful. A few random individuals watched
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454 as the helicopter descended onto the field. One person in particular caught my
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455 eye. He wore a plaid flannel shirt, overalls with suspenders, and cowboy boots.
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456 A blade of grass fell from between his teeth as he stared in open-mouthed
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457 wonder. The look of awe was plastered on his face even as I cleared myself of
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458 the helicopter and it took off again.
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459 He managed the word "wow!" Then he turned to me. "Howneck Dzatwirk?"
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460 (Read with 'hick' accent)
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461 "No," I answered. "I'm Petrov. Tell me, how do I get to the festival
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462 from here?"
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463 The man's face made a few distortions indicating he was not very fond of the
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464 Dance of the Dangerfield Festival. He said nothing , but pointed west, past a
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465 small hill.
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466 As I walked I wondered about this Howneck Dzatwirk fellow I was mistaken for.
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467 Something seemed odd about the name, almost familiar. Howneck Dzatwirk...
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468 How-neck dzat wirk...How 'n' eck does 'at work! Arghhh! That terrible hick accent, it all
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469 made sense now. Howneck Dzatwirk--How in the heck does that work! He was
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470 asking about the helicopter!
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471 I was getting very worried about this. The natives spoke a language I
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472 couldn't understand. What's worse, they seemed to know almost nothing about
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473 modern technology. There I was, all alone--surrounded by ignorant Orygon
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474 savages. I quickened my pace and hoped I wouldn't run into any indians.
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475 Petrov
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476 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
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477 { ^+/* ---------------- ^+/* ---------------- */+^ ---------------- */+^ }
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478 Laissez-faire - I believe my statement was "change is the very nature of
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479 this reality we experience", however I'll attempt to answer in the
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480 context of your question. Consider the idea that a person is and always
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481 has been in a state of perfection. True enough, many of us learn some
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482 habits, early in life, which prevent this state from being manifest in
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483 our day to day activities. One of the distortions of perception is to
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484 equate a person's actions and habits as being that person. Some have
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485 acquired ways of interacting with other people that are quite obnoxious.
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486 This does not mean they are beyond hope. I prefer to believe that under
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487 the proper stimulus the inherent good qualities will emerge. One of the
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488 traditional roles of spiritual practice has been to introduce a person
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489 to techniques that will develop patterns of behavior, which embrace the
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490 fundamental state of perfection. This is not to say that I agree with
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491 some of the modern forms of religion. Some seem to have gotten diverted
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492 from the main course. Fortunately there is still access to techniques
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493 that can assist a person toward becoming a complete human being.
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494
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495 I don't know what R. Bach has to say about perfection. If you'd care to
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496 summarize it here, I'd be interested. I'd also be more interested in
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497 your impressions and ideas, concerning this subject.
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498 { ^+/* --------------- The Mesolithic Mathematician --------------- */+^ }
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499 //////////////*****\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
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500 HI.
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501 I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A COUPLE
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502 THINGS;
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503 FIRST I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO
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504 MIKE AND ALL FOR MY USE OF "INFANTILE"
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505 LANGUAGE.(ALL THAT IS,EXCEPT FOR THE
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506 DOWNTOWNER)
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507 SECOND,TO ASP,WOULD YOU LIKE
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508 TO USE A DIFFERENT BBS FOR A GAME
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509 DISCUSSION?
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510 ELRIC THE
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511 PEACEFUL
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512
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513 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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514 unknownguy:MOST interesting. The only person I know who is involved with 6809
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515 and other motorola gear I just talked too. Perhaps you know of project Wendy? noname? does`the
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516 sequence "e4403..." mean anything to you?
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517 All:Due to a change in plans, I will be a porsfis.
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518 The 6809EMP may be upward compatable, but what about the instructions for my sound and serial
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519 port? (6803) and my`4MA/MHZ power consumption on the 6805? The CoCo I get will be on credit, so
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520 I am stuck with the 2. But there is always a way to speed up RS gear. I already know about not
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521 buying RS software.
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522 MiG
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523 ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? >`? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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524 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^
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525
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526 M.M. - Very well said. I tip my hat to your erudition. Bach is very similar in his
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527 beliefs about perfection, although he gives striving to attain that perfection as
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528 teh reason we exist. Not to 'Help our fellow man', or 'Make a bundle', but 'To
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529 strive for perfection'. To be perfect is to not have limits. Try to see
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530 yourself as more than just a body, think of your perfect limitless self. (The soul
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531 if you prefer.) That is the essence of Bach's philosophy. It is quite similar, in
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532 many ways to the 'Quality' of Phaedru}s, or the 'Arete' of the Sophists.
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533
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534 Many eastern religions are concerned with attaining that perfection, or Nirvanna
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535 State, and give meditation and introspection as the mode of arrival. I feel that
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536 man is so limited in his experience that perfection in this manner is impossible.
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537
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538 Christians believe that perfection is only found in bodily death and spiritual
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539 resurrection through salvation by the blood of Jesus. This eliminates the problem
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540 of human frailty of both body and soul.
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541
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542 Atheists do not believe in perfection, in my experience. Anything can be improved
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543 at least a little. I do not subscribe to that possibility, for I have seen
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544 perfection in a sunset, in a wave, in a mother's love.
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545
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546 Someone who is Islamic is required to tell what they believe, although it seems to
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547 me, again from my limited experience, that they feel that they are all perfect
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548 already and everyone else is less than perfect by not being Islamic. If there is
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549 an subscriber to Islam out there, please let us know. (And not a fake, please.)
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550
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551 A most interesting topic, perfection. Each has his own concept of perfection, I
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552 suspect. As well as truth.
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553
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554 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$ Laissez-faire $^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^
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555
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556 <><><><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+>
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557 ELRIC,
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558 what outher board did you have in mind?
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559
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560 ASP
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561 ps. what dito warrant an apologey to the sysop?
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562 <+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+
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563 ***************************************************************
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564 MIG: If your trying to protect against static discharge, don't bother
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565 with the scr. By the time it would get around to firing it would be
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566 too late anyway. Find yourself a nice 1 watt surmetic zener that
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567 should take care of the problem if it exists. SCRs are for flaky
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568 power supplies where supposedly you have enough time to crash the
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569 whole thing before it trashes your computer. Sometimes it works,
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570 and some times it don't. The problem with SCR crowbars is that they
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571 have a nasty habit of firing on their own, particularly when some
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572 CB'er fires up his 100W linear next door.
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573 I am dropping out of the EMP debate, you people are getting too weird
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574 on me. Raining electrons, blowing up the power system, destroying all
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575 communications.... Sheshh....
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576 ************************ CISTOP MIKEY ******************************
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577 xxxxx
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578 <+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+>
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579 ELRIC,
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580
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581 MY PS. SHOULD HAVE READ,"WHAT DID YOU SAY TO WARENT A
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582 APOLOGY TO THE SYSOP."
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585 ASP
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586
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587 <+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+>
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592 //////////////////*****\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
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593 ASP,
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594 I USED SOME RATHER UNNECESSARY
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595 LINGO.ANYWAY,THE BOARD I HAD IN MIND
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596 IS CALLED MEGASOFT(CALL:284-xxxx)
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597 NOTE:IF READ BY ANY EXCEPT ASP,PLEASE
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598 DONT LEAVE MESSAGES AND SUCH FOR ME
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599 THERE.OH,YEA I THOUGHT MAYBE WE COULD
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600 WORK ON A WWII OR TIMEWAR GAME...
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601 I THINK SPACE-GAMES ARE ALL TAKEN BY
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602 ALREADY GREAT IDEAS.
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603 ELRIC THE WHITE
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604 WOLF
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605 (P.S.-CALL MEGASOFT AND LEAVE A MESSAGE
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606 TO :ELRIC CHOASBRINGER
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607 AND I'LL RESPOND TO ASP OR WHATEVER)
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608
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609 ////////////////*****\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
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