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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask...
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2 ************************ REMOVED: 19 AUG 84 ****************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
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6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is
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10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which
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11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the
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14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the
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15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace
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16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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18 ************************************************************
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19
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20 L'homme: Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. I will get the disk
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21 in question to you someway as soon as I can. Right now though I cann't
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22 even read the archive disk as my 8inch system is currently emulating
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23 a pile of parts on my living room floor. It is waiting for me to
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24 install some rf filters in it. (It seems my neighbors complained about
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25 not being able to see channel two when I was using my computer. Sigh...
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26 Since I have to have that particular computer running to read the wierd
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27 archive disks (softsector formated hard sector disks) I am stuck until
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28 I can get it into running condition again. I have to do something soon
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29 though since I am running out of BW disks rather quickly, and I need to
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30 archive them real soon or BW won't have any disks. I may have to patch
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31 things together and do the upgrade at 3:00am in the morning if I don't
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32 get the filters installed soon.
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33 *********************** CISTOP MIKEY ***********************************
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34 I hate to embroil myself in the political debate, but I am not impressed
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35 by either party. The Democrats have shown an accute ability at
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36 fiscal irresponsibility. While the Republicans have shown an
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37 excellent ability at social irresponsiblity. I refuse to accept
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38 one or the other at the sacrific of the other. Both MUST be
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39 balanced to operate the country properly. This means living
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40 within your budget, but without stepping all over people. It may
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41 not be a popular view with some, but I feel that the rich have just
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42 as much right to existing as do the poor. We all strive to improve
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43 out lives and ourselves. There shouldn't be excessive restrictions
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44 to prevent this, nor should there be excessive impounding of that
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45 wealth once it is obtained. After all, consider what good is having
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46 a million dollars if uncle comes along and takes away 90% of it?
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47 What reason would anyone have for going after it in the first place?
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48 By the very same nature, a poor person must be given the chance
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49 to improve himself. Again, why bother to try if it is so hard to
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50 do as to be impossible? Thus they continue to live off the rest
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51 of society. We need the rich to provide the oppertunity to others
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52 to take the risks to grow. This is not something that can be forced
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53 by regulations. It must be given freely or it will never work.
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54 We must settup a structure where this is encouraged not forced.
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55 All to often in this country we fall back on the old concept
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56 that if you pass a law against it the problem will go away. Sorry
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57 to say it doesn't work that way, yet we never seem to learn...
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58 Nuff said... I think I'm going to vote for Mickey Mouse Since I
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59 can't stand the thought of even considering voting for either
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60 one of the jokers the two parties have hoisted on us this time.
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61 ********************* CISTOP MIKEY ***************************
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62 *)@#*%)_*#_)@%*_)*!_(+%(_)*%_)$*%_)*!_)%@!+_#%(_)@*%_)@*%_)@(_+%(@+%(_)*$%_)
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63 To all the archivers : BAD NEWS! Yes...we (I) have run into a snag. It turns out that the Kaypro won't read LNW
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64 CP/M. So what you say? Since it can't read LNW (Heath with Magnolia comes close), I must create 48 Kaypro disks on the
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65 Kaypro, then take these to the LNW, and copy the 48 disks from the LNW format to the Kaypro format. In case you weren't
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66 adding, that means it takes 96 disks to complete this little maneuver in one pass. I must them return to the Kaypro
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67 to copy from Kaypro format to single sided IBM PC format, and then to the IBM for single sided format to double sided
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68 format. Then comes the TRS80, but that's another story. What this all means is that there will be some delay in the
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69 completion of the transfer. I will again relay my progress.
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70 Mikey : thanks for the response. No big rush, but I thought I would let you know about the bad file. Hope you get the
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71 problems fixed. One hint...try wrapping the cpu in tin foil. Works every time!
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72 C.Y.M. : I must address your statement about this being the worst period in the last 30+ years. Do you really believe
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73 we are at a morale and economic level that is below that of the 60's - Vietnam, Kent State, Assinations, Protests, etc?
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74 Such broad statements as you made are usually dangerous, and come from the fingers of a very angry man. Has anyone
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75 ever said to you, "Cool it"? Just curious...
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76 *)@*#%)*@#)%*@#)%*_!(%_ L'homme sans parity )*%#@)*%)@#*@_*%_%_#*%_!*%_!*%_!*%_!#*%_!*%_!*%!_*%%)$*^)#$#$^
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77 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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78 All:I did something interesting recently. I went shopping for food. Nothing big,
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79 I know, but I havn't done this for about a year now. I noticed that everyone
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80 was in a massive hurry. Nobody had any consideration for the other person.
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81 People would mash into others with carts and say "why didn't you get out of my way
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82 instead of just standing there and looking dumb?" Thats a quote folks.
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83 I noticed a few other things too. A big display of hearshy(sp) chocolate sauce
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84 on "sale" for 1.09 a can. In its normal place it cost 99 cents a can. Their
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85 computer charged me 1.19 a can. After 15 miniuts of near constant bitching, they
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86 told`me that the COMPUTER fouled up! I don't think that`those CRC checking scanners
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87 are capable of something like that.
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88 anyway, what I saw was a`bunch of people who didn't care about who they blamed
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89 something on, just so they could blame it on somebody else.
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90 When I dropped out of high school, I wondered just what would happen to all of
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91 those jock types when they graduated. Also the A+ students.
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92
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93 I find`in my morning paper that Troy Frischman helped murder a school principal.
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94 he was a jock type at`my high school. I have seen many of the A+ types working
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95 at local taco-grime and burger-things while thme rest went mostly into military
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96 service. The 3 drop-outs I know are working right now, one is a long haul trucker
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97 another is a car mechanic and I am the 3rd.
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98 Something is wrong with the educational system! We are teaching the math/writing/reading aspect fine. More and more
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99 testing shows that. But we fail misserably in teaching kids how to be human beings.
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100 and it is getting worse. I attended my sisters 5 year reunion, she graduated from
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101 the same place I dropped out of. The people were careing and fun to be around.
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102 They all agreed that the school had gone way down hill in quality.
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103 Now 1 out of 18 highschool seniors use upwards of 1 gram of dope a day.
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104 For those of you who don't know the relative amounts, a gram costs about
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105 10 bucks and would keep me high for a week. Kids under 12 commonly use drugs.
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106 Todays schools place all of there values on performance in math/science and the like,
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107 without realising what this is doing to todays kids. And what are they doing
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108 about it? school prayer! thats the answer to all our problems. I can't vote
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109 for a shithead like reagan, I just can not. Big bussiness owns mondale.
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110 I fully support the Phantom WriTTer for president-he would do better!
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111 My, what a diatribe, I havn't been this long winded in weeks.
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112 MiG
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113 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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114 <+|+> {114} 08160125
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115 SHEESH. AND PEOPLE CALL "ME" CYNICAL. OH WELL---.
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116 I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT THE CHOICE WE HAVE IN THE NOVEMBER ELECTION
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117 EITHER, BUT AT LEAST WE 'HAVE' A
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118 CHOICE. [*=*] AKA DELTA FIVE, LYSIAS, THE PHANTOM PHILOSOPHER,AND GUEST
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119 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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120 Although I don't find political arguments productive, I feel like I
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121 would like to reply to the above --- sure we have a choice, but between
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122 who or what? We have a monolithic two-party system where the innies and
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123 the outies trade places from time to time in public view after a brief
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124 popularity contest while trading cash and influence during the rest of
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125 their "careers". By the time any person has gone through the system
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126 of either party and has reached the point that they can run for public
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127 office as the official representative of that party, they are morally and
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128 tethically compromised to the point that they are unfit to hold the office.
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129 They are, however, skilled at trading power, influence, and money -- often
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130 not directly into their own pockets -- but often so. I find it significant
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131 that G. Ford (remember -- the guy nixon appointed after the famous nattering
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132 nabob of negativity, your friend and mine, Spiro Who? was convicted of
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133 being a politician) had a net worth before being appointed VP of about
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134 250K$. After two years of trying to walk and chew gum at the same time,
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135 he lost the quadrennial popularity contest and is now a multi-megabucks
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136 guy. Not bad for two years and a "get out of jail free" card huh?
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137 I don't consider Nixon any worse than any other president we have had in
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138 recent times -- just a little more stuipid and clumsy. Rotten Ronnie
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139 knows his lines better than our last republicrat, but has been bought and
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140 paid for a long time ago. The Demican's alternatives are no better than
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141 the Republicrat's offerings. I personally wish there was a space on the
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142 ballot marked "none of the above". I'll bet it would win most of the time.
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143 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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144 ******************************************************************
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145 A choice?! I'm sorry, but I don't consider choosing between Mr. Death
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146 and Mr. Taxes as being a choice. Neither one has any real concern for
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147 either me or the country. Their own real concern is for their own
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148 little power trips. Any concern for this country they might have that
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149 I have seen was simply a side result of their power struggles.
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150 A little strong perhaps, but as I said before, I am not at all
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151 impressed by either one of the buffoons the political system has
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152 thrown at us this time.
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153 Piper: Thank you for the idea. Voting for noneoftheabove would be a
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154 far better statment then Mickey. You have swayed my vote, and I shall
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155 be voting for noneoftheabove.
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156 Now there is a thought, maybe we could get them to require that the
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157 'none' option be provided so that when two totally unaceptable
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158 choices as we have now are provided we can tell them sorry, no, try
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159 again. Instead of being forced to decide between two twits. This
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160 stupid lesser choice of evils garbage has gone on far too long, and
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161 I think it has hurt the country more them it has helped it. The 'none'
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162 choice would help since the politician would no longer get away with
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163 being only just enough better then the other guy. He would actually
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164 have to be at least socially acceptable (If that's possible for a
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165 politician!).
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166 ********************** CISTOP MIKEY *********************************
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167 ################################################################################
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168 EVERYBODY COMPLAINS BUT NOBODY CAN COME UP WITH PRACTICAL IDEAS OF HOW TO DO IT
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169 BETTER. IF YOU GUYS CAN'T EVEN COME UP WITH ONE REALISTIC IDEA OF HOW TO MAKE
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170 THE SYSTEM WORK WHY SHOULD ANYONE ELSE BE ABLE TO? MAX
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171 ################################################################################
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172 PIPER: 'MONOLITHIC'? THANKS FOR THE INFO ABOUT THE PIPES. I AM
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173 GOING TO BUY A PRACTICE CHANTER THIS WEEK. YEAH, IT'S TRUE THAT
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174 WHAT CHOICE WE HAVE IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS GENERALLY
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175 IS REDUCED TO THE 'LESSER OF EVILS' SYNDROME. I AM, HOWEVER
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176 GLAD TO LIVE WHERE WE HAVE THAT OPTION.ON RELIGION: MANS ONLY
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177 DIVINITY LIES WITHIN HIMSELF,AND HIS ONLY IMMORALITY IS HIS LEGACY
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178 TO FUTURE GENERATIONS. REASON IS THE ONLY TRUE ORACLE OF MAN.
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179 (DAVID HUME). [*=*]
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180 ;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;
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181 MAX: OH YE OF LITTLE FAITH, THAT WOULD CONDEMN US ALL TO A LIFE OF HOPE-
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182 LESSNES! HAVE YOU NO SUITABLE, NAY, REASONABLE SUGGESTIONS YOURSELF? I
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183 BELIEVE THAT YOU MUST TRY BEFORE GIVING JUDGEMENT UPON ALL OF HUMANITY.
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184 AFTER ALL, WITH THE ATTITUDE WHY TRY?, THE HUMAN RACE MOST PROBABLY WOULD
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185 NOT EXIST.
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186 ANOTHER IDEA I'VE BEEN KNOCKING ABOUT CONCERNS DELIBERATE EROSION OF THE
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187 INDIVIDUAL RIGHT TO MAKE BASIC DECISIONS. AMONG THESE IS WHETHER OR NOT I
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188 SHOULD BUCKLE MY SEAT BELT. WITH ONE STATE ALREADY MAKING IT A CRIME TO
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189 BE CAUGHT WITHOUT IT ON, I ENVISION OTHER STATES JUMPING ON THE BANDWAGON
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190 ANY WEEK NOW. NEXT I SUSPECT THEY'LL WANT T_O PASS ONE THAT REQUIRES YOU
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191 WEAR SHOES ON PUBLIC SIDEWALKS. OH WELL! IT'S TIME TO GO T_ MY W_RK REALITY
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192 ;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;
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194 call ATE-BYTE
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196
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197 ################################################################################
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198 WHO ME? IT'S NOT I THAT CONDEMN YOU TO A LIFE OF HOPELESSNESS. MY POINT IS
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199 THAT HOPELESSNESS IS THE STATUS QUO OF THE BACKWATER COMPLAINERS.
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200 EVERYONE CRITICIZES THE SOCIETY, THE POLITICIANS, THE SYSTEM, BUT NO ONE
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201 OFFERS ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE. BACKWATER DEBATERS ARE A BAND OF COMPLAINERS WHO
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202 CONFUSE THEIR WHIMPERING FOR LOFTY INTELECTUAL DEBATE. THE QUESTION ISN'T "WHY
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203 TRY?", THE QUESTION IS WHY TRY HERE? MAX
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205 .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. .
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206 We can't believe some of the crap that has been floating through
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207 this system lately. All people do now is show how cleverly they can
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208 make logical arguemes, and pat themselves on the back for it. Have
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209 we forgotten that emotions are the most important part of our
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210 personality? When someone says " So an so scares me ", (s)he gets
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211 scorned for not making a logical statement about policy and precedents.
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212 I can not cater to thought without emotion, when our logic impresses
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213 people more than nes personality.
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214 Andrew.
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216 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$
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217 MiG - On the last disk, you went for Unemployment Compensation,
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218 on this disk you are working. What gives. Either you are
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219 stealing from the government and all of us, or there has
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220 been an error somewhere. Please elaborate.
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221
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222 MAX - I did not see anyone complaining to the point of not having
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223 any alternatives. Noneoftheabove was suggested as a candidate,
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224 as was Mickey Mouse. I did notice, however, that you did not
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225 make any real constructive changes, just complaints.
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226
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227 Mellow Man - The tides change, perhaps, but it is only a superficial and
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228 temporary change. The real change is in the shoreline. To
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229 carry your analogy further, man is the shoreline, slowly
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230 wearing down until something more powerful than the tides
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231 cause the shore to rise up and change dramatically.
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232 Even more importantly man can change the shoreline, as he
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233 can change himself. This change may be the result of a
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234 higher power, or the higher power may be mankind's collective
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235 conciousness. I do not know, but I am looking for an answer,
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236 hopefully it will be The Answer.
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238 (My office mate has a T-shirt that says in HUGE letters FERRARO and
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239 underneath in little letters 'and mondale'. Rather like the joke I
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240 told last week, and she is a staunch Democrat)
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241
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242 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^ Laissez-faire ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^
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244 _____________________________________________________________________________
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245 Andrew : I think you confuse being logical with being rational. Being
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246 rational is not without emotion. The danger is in being emotional without
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247 logic, or being logical without emotion. Swaying one way or the other
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248 without moderation is dangerous, and I do NOT condone that. Being rational
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249 is being moderate in all things.
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250 L.F. : I enjoyed your continued anology. Your ending statement about the
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251 Answer is interesting. I have found in my travels that many look for The
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252 Answer. Those who find it, find it in themselves. Those who search far and
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253 wide for The Answer often end up giving up the search, and it is then that
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254 they find themselves. And within themselves, The Answer is found. Peaceful
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255 co-existance is the way to go. I find this state impossible on BW, but maybe
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256 elsewhere. The search goes on................Mellow Man
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257 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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260 FROM HAWTHORNE:THE SUPERIORITY COMPLEX OF THE GODS?...
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261 DEAR LORD!
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262 EVEN THE WHINES AGAINST WHINES ARE NOTHING MORE THAN WHINES. A TOTAL LOSS OF CONSTRUCTIVE AND CREATIVE CRITICISM IS APPARENT
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263 HERE.
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264 LET ME SEE WHAT I CAN DO WHILE ON LINE TO SHOW YOU WHAT YOU'VE DRAGGED BLACKWATERS DOWN TO;
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265 VOTING FOR GOV. NUNOF D. ABOVE WOULD BE A SHODDY THOUGHT OF A WEAK MIND.
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266 BUT FOR INSTANCE THINKING OF A OLD NEWSTORY I SEEM TO REMEMBER THREE OTHER CANDIDATES ON 1984 PRESIDENTIAL BALLOTS.
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267 WHAT WERE THEY? OH YES,MR.GLEN A MR.HART, AND A MR.JACKSON. I SEEM TO REMEMBER ALSO THAT I FAR PREFERRED GLEN TO ANYONE. AND
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268 I DON'T THINK I'M ALONE.
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269 MR.HART AND MR.JACKSON ARE TWO OTHER PEOPLE THAT I'M SURE HAVE THEIR SUPPORTERS AMONG US.
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270 AFTER A VOTE IN WHICH HART, OR GLEN, AND ALMOST DEFINATELY MR. JACKSON GOT LARGE PERCENT VOTES I THINK THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
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271 MIGHT LOSE ITSELF AFTER ALL ONE OR TWO MAJOR CANDIDATES TO WHAT IS THE THIRD LARGEST PARTY; THE AMERICAN INDENPENDANT PARTY.
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272 AND THE LIBERARIAN AND AMERICN SOCIALIST AND COMMUNIST PARTIES STILL CAN WITH ENOUGH SUPPORT; NOTE ENOUGH BEING A VERY LARGE
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273 AMMOUNT GET PRESIDENTIAL BALLOT CONTENDERS.
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275 SOMEONE RECENTLY EXPRESSED AN OVERLY LARGE DISLIKE FOR WHAT IS TERMED ARMCHAIR POLITICIANS;
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276 I SHARE THIS DISLIKE ONLY WHEN IT COMES TO BE SIMPLY PUT NUTIN BUT A DISCUSSION OF CYNICISM.
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277 IDN'T THINK I'D SEE IT HERE ON A LARGE SCALE BUT I DID. AND IT DISGUSTS ME STRONGLY HERE.
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279 MAN IN GRAY; DRUGS ARE COMMON UNDER TWELVE BUT NOT AS NEARLY AS COMMON AS TWO YEARS AGO. AND I THINK IT'S A TREND.
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280 LAISSAZ FAIRE; NOT BEING STUDY MINDED I DON'T KNOW FRENCH. MAY I ASK WHAT LAISSEZ FAIRE MEANS?
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281 GO BACK AND TAKE A GOOD, LONG LOOK AT WHEN MIG SAID HE HAD TO GET TO THE UNEMPLOYMENT OFFICE.
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282
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283 GEE,ALL OF THAT FELT GOOD.
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284 SEE YOU ALL ON THE NEXT DISK, OR POSSIBLY THIS ONE. GOOD DAY.
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285 PROMETHEUS HAWTHORNE SD8408.16
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286 MT1726.45
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288 00000000000000000000000 NULL SET 0000000000000000000000000000000
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290 I TOOK ANOTHER DRINK FROM THE BOTTLE AND TRIED TO LET IT FLOW
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291 INTO MY BRAIN AND ANYWHERE ELSE I COULD BE SOOTHED BY IT.
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292 LIFTING THE PENCIL OVER MY MAP OF OUR QUADRANGLE I MARKED THE
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293 AREA THAT THE PRISON'S NINETEEN PATROLS HAD COVERED THAT DAY.
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294 I HEARD THE CANVAS FLAP OF MY TENT BRUSHED ASIDE AND SOMEONE
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295 FEMALE ASKING ME IF I WANTED TO TALK TO HER.
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297 I WASN'T IN THE MOOD TO SPEAK SO IN ANSWER I TOOK A LONG, GOOD
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298 DRINK.
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299 SHE RAN AWAY, CRYING.
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300 THAT'S WHEN I FIRST KNEW ABOUT HER CRUSH ON OMEGA. "CUTE" SAID
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301 I CYNICALLY AS I COULD MUSTER.
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302 AND I FURTHER ENDEAVORED TO BE DRUNK.
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304 RIGHT ABOUT THE TWELVE MEMBERS OF A PRISON PATROL WERE OUTSIDE
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305 THE BACK OF MY TENT.
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306 AND RIGHT ABOUT THEN I HEARD A SCREAM.
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308 00000000000000000000000 NULL SET 0000000000000000000000000000000
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309 ***************** TO ALL FELLOW COMPUTER VIDIOTS ***************
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310 GREETINGS AND SALUTATIONS,
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311
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312 I DON'T LIKE CLEANING UP AFTER
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313 ANYONE. ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAD
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314 THE UNMITTIGATED GAUL OF HANGING
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315 UP WITHOUT TYPING 'OFF' AND BY
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316 DOING SO LEAVING THE FILE QUOTE
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317 UNQUOTE UNSAFE. SINCERELY,P.H.
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318
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319 Poor baby...must be tough being imposed upon so. Nobody else
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320 seems to mind cleaning up for newcomers who don't know the
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321 system. Too bad it made you suffer so.
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322
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323 IFFEN THERE IS NUTTIN WORSE TO HEAR THAN THERE IS TO HEAR THE
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324 ROOTIN AND THE TOOTIN OF TIN HORN PICKLE BARREL LONG IN THE
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325 MOUTH AND SHORT IN THE THOUGHT CITY SLICKER CAN'T DO NUTTIN
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326 BOUT IT BUT LOVE TO COMPLAIN ANYWAY GEE I WANNA GO HOME POOR
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327 BOYS AND GIRLS WHO HAVE NUTTIN BETTER TO DO THAN COMPLAIN
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328 AND GRIPE AND BE A GENERAL PAIN IN THE REAR PORTION OF THE
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329 HUMAN CONDITION. IT WOULD BE A CRYIN SHAME TO THINK THAT
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330 THESE CRITTERS WHO WOULD NOT THINK TO SPARE THE GENERALITY
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331 OF THEIR HIP POCKET OPINIONS IN PUBLIC WOULD DARE TO DO SO
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332 HERE ON SUCH SACRED GROUND. IT IS A TRUE VISIONARY THAT CAN
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333 BE NUTTIN MORE THAN A HOUND DOG BAYIN AT THE MOON WHEN HE
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334 BEGINS TO TALK POLOTICALS. IT IS SUCH THAT I SEE HERE THE
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335 RAMBLINGS OF SCATTERED BRAINS. THE VOCALIZATIONS OF THE
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336 UNINITIATIVE ARE NO WORSE THAN THE CRIES OF THE CAT ON
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337 THE FENCE AT NIGHT. TOWIT I WOULD RATHER LISTEN TO THE
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338 RANDOM RAMBLINGS OF THE FELINE THAN THE PURE RAMBLINGS OF
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339 THE LIKES OF THE PICKLE BARREL SPEAKERS AND THEIR HENRY'S
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340 BEER OPINIONS.
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341
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342 ****************************************************************
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343 I for one am not just making noises, I fully intend to carry out
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344 my statements. It is in my own little way in attempting to do
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345 something about it. Sure, I could vote for one of the 'standards',
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346 but as I said I don't have any faith in them as proper leaders.
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347 And as I also said, if enough people were to do this, it would
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348 force a reelection and hopefully a better choice. After all, I
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349 could just give up and follow the rest of the sheep and vote for
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350 'the winner' or an obvious 'losser' but what would be the point?
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351 I would not be voting my convictions. Can you say the same?
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352 ****************** CISTOP MIKEY *********************************
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353 ?
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354
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355
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356 EXIT
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357
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358 SO I'M NOTHING BUT A JERK.
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359 ::::::::::::::::::::::O O::::::::::::::::O O::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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360 MiG: I called the Nerd tonight, What has become of our beloved NERDOLUX?
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361 It at least has prompts, but as I am unfamiliar with the tree-structured
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362 type of BBS, I got nowhere. Perhaps some sort of HELP would be nice?
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363 (There is a HELP, but it merely gives a sub-menu; it doesn't tell what's
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364 going on.
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365 Mikey: Convictions are great things if you can afford them. If you feel
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366 that you would be better off by voting for nonoftheabove, and as a
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367 result Mondull or Raygun gets elected, your honor will be satisfied.
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368 However, what about your living conditions? Life is a series of compromises
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369 and few of us have the position or power to do what we really want to.
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370 Granted, neither Mondale nor Reagan are all that exciting a choice,
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371 but they are the only choices we have. A vote for nonoftheabove is actually
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372 a vote for Mondale or Reagan. (I'm not sure which it is, but one of the
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373 parties benefits by low voter turnout. That is where, in essence, your
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374 vote would be going). If you could get enough people (on the order of
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375 several million) to vote for nonoftheabove, or some other third party,
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376 it would be a different story. As things stand now, though, you can either
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377 vote for Mondull or you can vote for Raygun. Actively or passively, that
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378 is the result. Sorry
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379 :::::::::::::::::::O O:::::::::voyeur::::::::::O O::::::::::::::::::::
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380 <+|+> {380} 08170048
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381 TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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382 I pursed my mouth and squunched up my eyes imitating Mike Wallace. L'homme
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383 was imitating George Carlin imitating my mom. "If you don't quit that,
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384 your face will freeze that way."
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385 "These people are looney tunes," said Joshua, "We'd better find that girl.
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386 I could blend in with the crowd if I wore green like everyone else."
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387 "And I suppose if everyone else jumped off a cliff, you'd do that, too."
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388 Joshua and I feigned acute nausea. "no, I'd like to find her, too. I
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389 hope her name's Mary. When I was a kid," L'homme went on, "I had a neat
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390 model car that said on it..."
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391 "Won't you come in." The head Consul was thin, wiry, around 60. His face
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392 was composed and humorless except for his eyebrows which led an independent
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393 bushy life of their own and looked as if they might fly off with his nose.
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394 We were seated in a clean light study overlooking the commune and desert.
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395 "Why does this religion arouse so much animosity in the general public?"
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396 I began.
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397 "As you are quite well aware, this is not a religion. True spiritual en-
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398 deavors do no demand money. They demand sweat. We fill another kind of
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399 need. The blind obedience you see here does not develop the personal disci-
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400 pline necessary for contemplation of objects like this. He held out an
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401 ornately carved cinnabar disk depicting a writhing woman with flames shoot-
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402 ing out of her head. "The goddess Kali," said our host, "enraged that her
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403 lover Vishnu will not make her queen of the skies."
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404 "Well," smirked L'homme, "why should he buy the cow when he can milk her
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405 through the fence?"
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406 "This is a copy. The real one was stolen. We know your true background,
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407 Ms Minsky. Your religious expertise could help us find a motive and method
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408 for the crime.
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409 "We can be sure of one thing," said L'homme solemnly. "it didn't just get
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410 up and walk away."
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411 TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT G. M. TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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412 RAINdeer Oregon (AP) British businessman John Basil Blackwell was shot here
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413 today at a festival in honor of cult leader Rajneesh Dangerfield. A buyer
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414 of Far Eastern antiques for the firm of Paddington-Chesney Ltd, he main-
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415 tained residences in Hong-Kond, London, and New Delhi where, according to
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416 the Hindustan Times, he has recently unearthed some rare Sikh relics.
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417 His home office, unaware that he was in the U.S., declined to speculate
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418 on a motive for the murder. A spokesman for Dangerfield said that the
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419 guru deplored the incident. The devotees of the guru are continuing their
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420 celebration "to commemorate life, not death." Attorney for the state
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421 Groanmiser stated that a full investigation will be carried out. "These
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422 people will be granted no special considerations," he stated in a press
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423 conference this evening.
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424 vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
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425 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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426 Laissez Faire:Oops! I messed up. I was working at a rather well paying job
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427 after high school, I was, however, laid off. A breaf stint in a trailer park
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428 has been the only employment after that. The statement is incorrect in that
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429 it should have stated that thease people were known to have been working
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430 at said jobs after they dropped out. I know not what they do now, I should
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431 check as this may invalidate a few statements. Tell me, do you have any
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432 atari disks to give to oft-lusted after female members of this board?
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433 Voyeur:heck if I know! I talked to Michael and he said it was just a system
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434 at the end of a phone line, it is NOT the new nerd. I have used it however
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435 and have a few suggestions. There is help everywhere, type a "?" at whatever
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436 rove your at and it will spill fourth with data on how to use it. If that
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437 does not help, answer yes to "more help?" and you will get it. Oh yes, when
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438 entering a new leaf, ctrl-J will save it and get you out...
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439 Hawthorn:I stopped teaching when I dropped out, so I have no comparison.
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440 Could you quote somebody on this? It would be some hartening news in a see
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441 of near constant bitching.
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442 I forgot who it was, but somebody complaned that we are doing nothing.
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443 I am planning something of a study in human nature soon, involving about 900
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444 people in a set enviroment. In short, I am going back to high school to
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445 play with peoples minds. Should be an interesting study, and it may help
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446 me form methods I can use to better manipulate people that I need to control
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447 like various public officials.
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448 MiG
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449 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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450 [*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*]
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451 THE DARKNESS THAT I HAD WELCOMED STILL SURROUNDED ME AS SLOWLY
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452 I AWAKENED. THE EERIE STILLNESS AROUND ME WAS PUNCTUATED ONLY
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453 BY THE RHYTHMIC, DISTANT SOUNDS OF THE WAVES UOPN THE ROCKY
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454 SHORE. MORE AWAKE NOW, THE MEMORIES FLOODED MY TIRED MIND.OF
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455 THE--- OF WHERE I WAS, OF--THE MAP! THE PRECIOUS MAP! FRANTIC-
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456 ALLY, I GROPED ABOUT IN THE INKY BLACKNESS BUT ONLY THE SLIPP-
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457 ERY WET GRASS GREETED MY SEARCHING FINGERS. ALMOST WILD WITH
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458 PANIC, I THRASHED ABOUT, SEARCHING FOR MY RUCKSACK, FOR THE MAP
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459 THE PRECIOUS MAP----. ONCE AGAIN, MY FATHERS WORDS ECHOED FROM
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460 OUT OF THE PAST, "YOU MUST NOT FAIL---". AGAIN AND AGAIN, I
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461 REACHED, AS IN THE DARKNESS, I COULD NOT SEE. DESPAIR OVER
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462 WHELMED ME. THE MAP WAS LOST. I HAD FAILED. THE PEOPLE OF OUR
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463 LITTLE VILLAGE WERE DEPENDING ON ME, AND I HAD FAILED THEM.
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464 I COULD NEVER GO BACK. I COULD NOT BEAR THE SIGHT OF THEIR SAD
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465 DOWNCAST FACES. I LAY THERE ALONE, AS ALONE AS ANYONE EVER WAS.
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466 I TRIED DESPERATELY TO BANISH THE OVERWHELMING GUILT AND SAD
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467 NESS FROM MY MIND. MY THOUGHTS RACED BACK IN TIME, TO THE
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468 VILLAGE. TO THE ELDERS, THE MESSAGE OF THE STARS, THE JOURNEY
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469 THAT HAD STARTED SO HOPEFUL, BUT THAT HAD LED ME HERE, TO SHAME
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470 AND FAILURE, AND LONLINESS. THE STORM, MY POOR LITTLE COMPANION
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471 LOST IN THE LAKE. OF BEING DASHED UPON THE ROCKY SHORE. IF ONLY
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472 IT WERE A DREAM.IF ONLY I WOULD AWAKEN, AND EVERYTHING BE DIFF-
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473 ERENT. PENSIVELY, I SAT UP, MY HANDS SQUISHING ON THE WET GRASS
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474 --BUT--GRASS?? THE ROCKS. WHERE WERE THE ROCKS? HOW DID I-- AND
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475 IN A TINY CORNER OF MY MIND, A SPARK OF HOPE WAS KINDLED. ANXIE
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476 TY OVERCAME ME- HAD I SOMEHOW, IN MY FITFUL EXHAUSTED SLEEP,
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477 MANAGED TO CRAWL AWAY FROM THE ROCKS? HAD I, COULD HAVE I, LEFT
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478 THE RUCKSACK BEHIND ON THE ROCKS? COULD IT STILL BE THERE? AS I
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479 PONDERED THIS, I BECAME AWARE OF SOMETHING ELSE, VAGUE AT FIRST
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480 , BUT SO OVERCOME WITH CONFLICTING EMOTIONS I COULD NOT THINK.
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481 I FORCED MYSELF TO "REMEMBER MY STAR", AS THE VILLAGE ELDERS
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482 HAD TAUGHT ME. "REMEMBER YOUR STAR, AND IN YOUR MOMENTS OF TRIB
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483 ULATION, IT WILL COMFORT YOU AND GUIDE YOU---" MY SENSES BECAME
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484 CLEARER AS MY MIND CALMED. SMOKE! IT WAS SMOKE! BUT HOW? I LOOK
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485 ED BEHIND ME. YES! THERE IT WAS, THE GLOWING EMBERS OF A CAMP
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486 FIRE. I CRAWLED TOWARD THE DULL REDNESS, TOO WEARY TO STAND,
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487 AND AS I NEARED IT, I IMAGINED A FAMILLIAR SIGHT ---MY GOD!?-
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488 IT WAS MY LITTLE TENT-MY TENT! BUT HOW? HOW COULD THIS BE? WITH
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489 AN ENERGY BORNE OF SUDDEN EXHILARATION, I SCRAMBLED INSIDE. MY
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490 HEART WAS POUNDING SO FRANTICALLY MY HEAD WAS POUNDING, AND--
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491 THERE-THERE ITWAS, THE RUCKSACK. THE MAP! I REACHED OUT FOR IT.
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492 FELT IT. IT WAS REAL!. I WASN'T DREAMING. AS I THREW MY ARMS
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493 AROUND IT, I DRIFTED OFF INTO A PEACEFUL SLEEP, IMAGINING THAT
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494 I HEARD A SMALL SNEEZE THERE NEAR ME. TEARS FILLED MY EYES AND
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495 THE BLACKNESS ENGULFED ME---. TO BE CONTINUED. [*=*][*=*][*=*]
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496 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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497 Mikey -- seems there are a lot of folks who resent us not
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498 falling into line and swallowing the choices that have been made for us.
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499 There can be many reasons for this, but the most likely is the person
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500 him(her)self either not knowing enough about her(his) motives in voting
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501 for one or the other of the national party figureheads or feels that there
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502 is, indeed, a substantiative difference between the two. I am and have
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503 been for most of my life a registered Republican. After the stances the
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504 party took on its platform, I will not support it during the coming election.
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505 I consider myself a moderate, and there is no room left for me in the
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506 republican party. Unfortunately, here I have no choice, as the dems are
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507 no more near my own philosophy. When the election rolls around, my votes
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508 will generally go against the incumbent or republican unless I have reason
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509 to vote otherwise.
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510 Perhaps we should start an initiative to add noneoftheabove to our
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511 present ballots. Some practical questions immediately rise -- can we
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512 afford continuing circusus when the same tired old nominees repeat their
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513 rounds? Seriously, however, these questions can be answered.
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514 By placing "none of the above" as a true option on the presidential ballot,
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515 the state of Oregon would be the first to quatify the present protest
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516 vote. Since we do not really elect a president we can mandate that our
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517 members of the electoral college cast the state's vote to match the popular
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518 vote, and withold the number of electoral college votes to match the
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519 percentage of nonoftheabove votes. This procedure would, at least, serve
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520 notice to the "winners by a landslide" of the amount of distrust in
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521 which they are held. Anyone care to work on this idea further?
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522 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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523 ;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-
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524 WELL TODAY IS THE DAY! WHAT WILL HE SAY? WILL THE MAN FROM INDIA BECOME
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525 OREGON'S FIRST PERSONA NON GRATA, CLAIMING AMERICAN RIGHTS HE HAS NO REAL
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526 LEGAL RIGHT TO CLAIM, AND BE THROWN INTO JAIL FOR FAILING TO SPEAK IN HIS
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527 OWN BEHALF? FOR THE ANSWER TO THESE AND MANY MORE OF YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE
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528 TUNE INTO "LIFE WITH RAJNEESH: A TEST OF PATIENCE".
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529 ;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-
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530
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531 There are no "set dicisions", everyone has the right to dicid
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532 themselves. What you can change is beyond me. You have the freedom
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533 of choice. There might be a few people that say "YOU MUST VOTE DEMO-
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534 CRATIC!!!!" but you don't have to do that do you? You can vote whatever
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535 you like, or even not vote at all. Vote for Mickey Mouse if you want to,
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536 it's hardly going to change anything now is it? The votes are in the
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537 hands of the big wealthy slobs that have a great influence over a lot
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538 of people. Thats were the deciding vote lie. In these "landslides",
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539 and also, by the time you get to the poles the winner will already be
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540 anounced and living it up on the east cost. What will you vote, you
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541 might still vote. But what will your vote be worth? Who would care?
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542
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543 ***************************************************************
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544 VOYEUR: I VERY STRONGLY DISAGREE THAT A VOTE FOR NONEOFTHEABOVE WOULD
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545 BE A VOTE FOR MONDALE OR REAGAN. AS I SAID, SURE MY VOTE MAY NOT MEAN
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546 MUCH, BUT IT IS BETTER THEN NOT VOTING AT ALL, AND I ABOSOLUTLY REFUSE
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547 TO ACCEPT EITHER ONE AS A 'RESPONSABLE' LEADER. BUT, IF ENOUGH PEOPLE
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548 WERE TO VOTE MY WAY, THE PARTIES WOULD HAVE TO SIT UP AND TAKE NOTICE.
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549 THAT MAYBE PEOPLE DON'T WANT THESE TWO IN OFFICE.
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550 MAYBE YOU FEEL YOU HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE SHEEP AND
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551 VOTE FOR ONE OF THE PREORDANDED CHOICES, BUT I REFUSE TO COMPROMISE
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552 MY MORALS TO SATISFY THOSE WHO WOULD NOT STRIVE TO FIND SOMETHING
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553 BETTER. HOW CAN I BE TRUE TO MYSELF IF I DON'T VOTE MY CONVICTIONS?
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554 THERE ARE THOSE WHO TALK HERE ABOUT NOONE DOING ANYTHING, ONLY
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555 COMPLAINING. TO A LARGE EXTENT I WOULD AGREE, BUT ONE THING I HAVE
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556 LEARNED IN THIS SHORT TIME I HAVE BEEN KICKING AROUND IN THIS WORLD
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557 IS THAT I YOU WANT TO GET SOMETHING DONE YOU START BY TAKING THE
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558 FIRST STEP. MY VOTE FOR NONEOFTHEABOVE MAY NOT BE A VERY LARGE STEP,
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559 BUT IT IS ONE JUST THE SAME. IT IS MY WAY OF DOING SOMETHING ABOUT
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560 THE SITUATION. WILL YOU STANDUP FOR YOUR CONVICTIONS? OR WILL YOU
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561 FOLLOW THE HERD LIKE EVERYONE ELSE AND CHOOSE THE 'LESSER OF TWO
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562 EVILS' INSTEAD OF FIGHTING FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE TO BE RIGHT?
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563 ************************ CISTOP MIKEY *******************************:
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564 GOOD POINT MIKE! NONE OF THE CANDIDATES ARE ACCEPTABLE. JACKSON WOULD BE A
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565 LITERAL TIME BOMB. AS PEOPLE HAVE SAID BEFORE, RELIGION AND POLITICS DO NOT
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566 MIX.
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567 REAGAN IS NOT A RESPONSIBLE LEADER AND FRITZ IS THE PUPPET OF SPECIAL INTERESTS
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568 GARY HART IS NOT EXACTLY A GOOD CHOICE EITHER.
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569 THE THING THAT REALLY TICKS ME OFF IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS MEDDLING IN
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570 THINGS THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO MEDDLE IN. FOR EXAMPLE, RELIGIOUS INTERESTS
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571 (NO OFFENSE) HAVE GONE AHEAD AND TRIED TO LEGISLATE MORALITY INTO THE LAWS.
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572 THE PROSTITUTION AND ANTI-PORNOGRAPHY MOVEMENTS ARE SUCH MOVES TO LEGISLATE
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573 SOMETHING UNDEFINEABLE AND HAVING TO DO WITH MORALITY. THEY ARE TRYING TO FORCE
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574 THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TO CONFORM TO THEIR RELIGIOUS TENETS AND ELIMINATE
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575 COMPETITION.(I.E. THE BIGAMY LAWS AND THE MORMONS)
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576 I SAY THAT ENOUGH HAS HAPPENED THIS WAY. WE SHOULD ELECT THE ATHEISTS WHO
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577 HAVE A CLEARER VIEW OF THE WORLD AND WILL CLEAR UP THE LAWS LEGISLATING MOR-
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578 ALITY..........
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579
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580 THE CARD-CARRYING ANARCHIST AND ATHEIST,
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581 THE UNBELIEVER
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582 ********************************************************************************
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583 EXCEPT FOR THE ELECTORAL VOTE SYSTEM, ONE VOTE (OR NON VOTE)
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584 COUNTS THE SAME AS ANY OTHER, NO MATTER HOW MANY CADILLACS OR
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585 8" DISC DRIVES YOU HAVE. ATHEISM IS DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED
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586 TO THEISM. BOTH ARE DOGMA. THE ONLY REALISTIC LOGICAL SYSTEM OF
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587 BELIEF IS DEISM, OR AGNOSTICISM. [*=*]
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588 --------------------------------------------------
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589 I wonder if Pam is still out there reading this stuff,
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590 or has she given up on BW for good?
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591 --------------------------------------------------
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592 Sigh, must have...
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