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STATUS: ALL ALLOWED
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NUMBER OF LINES: 629
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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
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2 ********************** REMOVED: 15 DEC 83 ****************************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION PLACED ON
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6 THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privatly owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system.
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10 It is intended that the system be normally used for messages and
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11 advertisments by the users. As the system is privatly owned, I retain the
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12 right to remove any and all messages which I may find offensive
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13 to me. Additionally because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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14 periodically purged of older messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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15 The saved information will be cycled to drive 'B' while the information on
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16 drive 'B' will be archived, and a fresh disk will be installed in drive 'A'.
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17 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out
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18 of the enter mode. The message is automaticly stored.
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19 If after entering the message you find you made a mistake,
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20 use the replace command to replace the line.
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21 To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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22 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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23 ========================================
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24
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25
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26
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27 O.K., THIS IS IT - SATURDAY, DECEMBER 10, THE M.T. BOTTLE&DELI !!!
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28 ABOUT 2PM WOULD GIVE US TIME TO GET BACK FROM CHURCH, WORK OFF OUR
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29 FRI NITE HANGOVERS OR WHATEVER, WOULD IT NOT? THIS WILL BE THE OFFICIAL
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30 BWMS PARTY DATE AND TIME.
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31
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32 To get to MT Bottle & Deli - From Portland
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33
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34 I-5 North .... take first right off F-way on Hayden Isl. ( the only
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35 one ) ....then next right ( Tomahawk Dr. ) then next right ( parall to
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36 I-5 you should be headed south by now ) follow the road around under the
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37 bridge take your first right ( into parking lot )
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38 And ....... there it is.
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39
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40 ********************************************************************
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41 WHAT OF 1984? HOW CLOSE ARE WE? ANY COMMENTS ON THE REWRITING
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42 OF OUR OWN HISTORY BOOKS? (YES IT IS EVEN DONE HERE, THOUGH NOT
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43 TO THE MASSIVE EXTENT IN SOME OTHER COUNTRIES.) WHAT ABOUT CENSORSHIP?
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44 ANY EXAMPLES YOU FIND UNACEPTABLE? WHAT LEVEL OF CENSORSHIP DO
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45 YOU FIND ACCEPTABLE (IF ANY AT ALL)? WHAT OF OUR GREAT WHITE FATHER
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46 WHO SPEAKS WITH A FORKED TONGUE? WHAT OF HIS MANY FOLLOWERS?
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47 WHAT OF THOSE WHO WOULD OPPOSE HIM AND HIS VALUES? COME ON, LETS
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48 GET A GOOD CONTROVERSY GOING BEFORE THE INN IS CLOSED FOR LACK
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49 OF INTEREST! (IF THAT WOULD EVER BE POSSIBLE)
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50 ************** CISTOP MIKEY ******** ZZZZZZZZZZZZ *******************
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51 P.S. I'LL EVEN GIVE YOU A NICE CLEAN DISK TO GET STARTED ON.
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52 ************************************************************************
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69 [][][][][][][][][][][][] 1334 12/10/83 [][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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70
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71 A controversy ? Everyone knows that Reagan lies, but lying presidents are
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72 an American tradition. Just because he lies, doesn't mean his policies
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73 are bad. (necessarily) We should keep reagan for domestic things, and
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74 hire RM Nixon for foreign policy. And hire J Carter for buffoon.
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75
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76 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] DJJ [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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77
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78 ****************************************
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79
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80 Reagan doesn't lie, and that's the pity. He really doesn't know that
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81 the things he says are wrong, so he is just totally misinformed, not a
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82 liar. Carter wasn't a buffoon, he just tried to do everything himself,
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83 never delegating authority or responsibility. Reagan delegates everything
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84 except making speeches and sleeping, and his appointees are mostly fools
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85 and special-interest flacks. I wouldn't want to keep Reagan for anything
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86 except court jester due to nearly everything about his scabby, leprous
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87 personality. And Nixon for foreign policy? His re-establishing relations
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88 with China was a good move, but everything else, from his Vietnam policy
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89 to his giveaway of power to the oil companies in 1971 (which eventually
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90 resulted in the oil "crisis") was a failure. Our nations's foreign policy
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91 for the last 40 years has been one of threats, posturing, and bullying,
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92 so I can't say that I've seen anyone during that time whose foreign policy
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93 I could say I supported whole-heartedly.
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94 ************Captain America************
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95 To: All BWMS "non-party" goers
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96 Well I enjoyed it, did you?
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97 To: Everyone else
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98 WHERE WERE YOU??!!
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99 Captain America:I at no time advocated running away. (just because someone
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100 CALLS himself a survivalist doesn't mean he is one). My position is that
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101 until we can be sure that there is NO danger from these things, we should
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102 try to take what precautions we can. The gun-toting idiots that most people
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103 think of when you say "survivalist" are acting in a very non-survival manner
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104 It makes more sense to keep a low profile & try to form an integrated
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105 community with people who have skills that compliment yours. A small amount
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106 of paranoia may be helpful, but you HAVE to trust someone.
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107
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108 ps Leonard, NOT "Leo"!
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109 ____________________________________Leonard_________________________________
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110 .......................................................................
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111 I knew the party would be a success! I was very happy to meet all of you.
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112 Our small numbers allowed us to all get a chance to talk to each other
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113 and get to know each other better. It was really enjoyable! We even had
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114 some good mini debates ranging from Reagan to IBM computers. I have a few
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115 questions for some of you...
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116 Hrothgar...If you were at PSU around 15 years ago, were you involved with
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117 or remember any of the Vietnam protests there? What about the FBI scandal
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118 that I have heard bits and pieces about? I guess a cousin of mine who went
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119 there was quite involved in some of the protests etc. My Aunt was valadic-
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120 torian another year, and one of my brothers also went there. Does this
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121 constitute a legacy??? Keep me in mind if you have any sub-contract jobs!
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122 To Mikey...If you would care to, could you tell us more about the products
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123 you carry?
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124 To Leonard...I owe you a button...whoops!
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125 To DJJ...is your BBS going to be back up? Can you tell us a little about
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126 what it covers?
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127 To d...Thank you for your stimulating conversation and your Dragon
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128 renditions.
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129 To Alex...Thank you for the suggestion of the MT Bottle & Deli. A great
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130 place to meet, and the food was good too!
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131 To all...good bye!
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132 ................tHE dROPPED bIT........................................
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133 ****************************************************************
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134
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135 DRAGON ALERT
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136
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137
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138 Government officials unofficially deny persistant reports
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139 that coastal towns are being devastated by an infestation
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140 of dragons. However, reports of the rash of unexplained
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141 animal mutilations along the Oregon/Washington coast continue.
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142
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143 Efforts by Oregons new Rumor Control Division to counter
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144 reports of a widening dragon infestation have had mixed
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145 results. The unofficial news blackout continues though charges
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146 are spreading within the media that this constitutes a serious
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147 violation of freedom of the press.
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148
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149 The governors of both Oregon and Washington deny the national
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150 guard has been placed on alert. Neither Senators Hatfield or
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151 Packwood have been available for comment on the rapidly
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152 deteriorating crisis.
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153
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154
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155 GRAND DRAGONMASTER
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156 DRAGON HUNTERS INTERNATIONAL
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157
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158
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159 ***************************************************************
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160 ################################################################
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161 HROTHGAR: LEROY'S IN THE OREGON STATE PENITENTIARY FOR
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162 ALLEGEDLY SMUGGLING ARMS TO COUNTRIES THAT WERE UNFRIENDLY
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163 TOWARDS WESTERN CIVILIZATION. WHY DO YOU WANT TO KNOW? ARE
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164 YOU A LAWYER? WHO IS BORIS BATTERNOF?
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165
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166 NATASHA
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167
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168 ###############################################################
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169 HEY, RADICALS! REAGAN ISN'T SUCH A BAD GUY. IF CARTER WAS STILL IN
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170 OFFICE(IF THERE WOULD STILL BE AN OFFICE) WE WOULD ALL BE SHELLING
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171 PEANUTS IN RUSSIAN, OR WORSE, NOT EVEN BE HERE!
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172 ************************************MOSSAID********************************
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173 HELP
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174 STOP
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175 OFF
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176 *********************************************************************
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177 PAM: WHERE ARE YOU WE ARE ALL WAITING FOR YOU TO REAPPEAR!
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178 SORRY YOU MISSED THE PARTY, THE MOST OFTEN ASKED QUESTION WAS:
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179 WHERE'S PAM? CLOSELY FOLLOWED BY WHAT HAPPENED TO DOM?
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180 CYM AND BAD WERE MISSED AS WELL. ABOUT 10 SHOWED. INCLUDINH
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181 d. WHO WAS AS LOVLY IN PERSON AS IN PRINT. AARON, LEONARD, ALEX,
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182 DROPPED BIT, HROTHGAR, DJJ, DARK PRINCE, AND COMPANIONS. OH YES,
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183 YOURS TRULY SHOWED AS WELL. A MOST INTERESTING GROUP.
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184 ********** CISTOP MIKEY ******************************************
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185 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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186 NATASHA. SORRY BUT YOU EXPLANATION DOES NOT CUT IT. A PERSON
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187 CHARGED WITH ARMS SMUGGLING WOULD NEVER BE SENT TO A STATE
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188 PENETENTARY. SUCH A CRIMINAL WOULD BE SENT TO A MAXIMUM SECURITY
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189
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190 FEDERAL PEN, SUCH AS LEVENWORTH. YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN, AS WELL
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191 AS YOUR WHOLE PHONY SET OF MESSAGES! GET REALISTIC!
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192
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193 A NEW MONIKER
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194 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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195 Aaron, how in your new dial tone, if any?
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196 All, sorry I missed the bash, had to help Sheila move to Seal Rock;
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197 will try next time.
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198 Was that a bat I saw fly past the moon, or was it something bigger? The
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199 cluds were in the way, and it was hard to see through the rain on my
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200 glasses.
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201 How many new bulletin boards are there? I there room for another free
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202 forum like BWMS? Would a remote UNIX system survive? Please offer comments.
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203 ///////////////////////////////BAD\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
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204
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205 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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206
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207 Pam's back!
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208
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209 Pam: Thanks for the input. As it stands, the system will permit only a
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210 small subset of the commands to be used without logging in. (HELP,?,and a
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211 few others) If I were to implement a "trial" section, I would actually have
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212 to log the guest in, perhaps under a general well known UID/password combo
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213 (such as guest/password). The system will have a large number of mysterious
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214 and dark commands, some of great utility and others of little use. To
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215 prevent a user from destroying all about him, each user will have a perm-
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216 ission list of which commands the system will permit them to use. I could
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217 give guest/password only sufficent commands to enter messages into a "room"
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218 specificly for them (pgallery). Other rooms will be for different topics/
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219 concepts; the system will automaticly create a room if, say, 5 users request
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220 its creation. One of the rooms will be "Forum", and is intended for general-
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221 BWMS type use. As to creating a subsytem exactly like BW, probably not. The
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222 "forum" room will be close (in fact any room) enuf to satisfy everyone. The
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223 only (major) difference between BW's free format and my system will be the
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224 fact that messages are actually files, and protected from tampering. Once
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225 you have entered a room, it will be much the same. Up, down, next message,
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226 search...etc.
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227 As to the status of the system, a) the software hasn't left paper. b) the
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228 computer needs extensive modifications c) i need to hookup a 256k mem board
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229 (which i have) d) i have to get a phone line e) i need a paper tape punch
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230 /reader (i will be using audio tape until/unless i get one) f) other dreary
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231 needs/projects...among them aprox $200 for various components,etc..
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232
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233 on the bright side, I actually do have the computer, drives, memory, and
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234 modem necessary (103/212A/VA3400), and a good idea of which direction I'm
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235 heading. Look for the system to be on-line by Jan 1.
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236
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237 Hope to see you at the not-a-pizza party!
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238 Aaron
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239 [above was transfered to DA, as Mike swapped DB out before you were
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240 able to read it........]
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241
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242 all: the "spaces" between the lines above are LINEFEEDS, NOT EMPTPY LINES!
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243 they were inadvertedly inserted because I didn't have a "non-system" copy
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244 of the text. my apologies. (ignore this. I fixed it. see below)
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245
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246 all N-A-P Party goers: it was a pleasure! Alex's choice turned out O.K. At
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247 least he had the guts to show! (ha ha!) what was the resolution? alternate
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248 leap years?..........
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249
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250 BAD: nothing is absorbed anymore! (sob, no tricky dialing to keep phone
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251 numbers secret..) . line quality is better, but the trasmission losses are
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252 higher. I've got a test set here which will inject any db from -30 to plus
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253 20 or so at any frequency; maybe I could con the test desk (omigod! there
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254 ain't such a beast anymore!) into checking levels. Have you been following
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255 the progress (or lack thereof) of Unicom?
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256
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257 Pam (again): you were sorely missed. along with DOM and other no-shows,
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258 and that includes you, BAD!
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259
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260 all (hints on up-load to BWMS): make sure the margin is set high enuf so
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261 the margin bell dosn't ring, as many modems do better with one-way data.
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262 Try to get your system to insert LF's AFTER the CR! eithier send each line
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263 individually or put a good dozen nulls after each CR, BW is slow!
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264 I fixed the extra LINEFEEDS! I defined one of my fuction keys as
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265 "do^M^C" and the other as "ch /^J//^M^C" and just popped the 1-2-1-2-1-2...
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266 keys till i hit a "not found"..the ^C's prevent the system from echoing
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267 the lines when I DO and CH..saves time.
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268
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269 DJJ: youv'e got a BB also? finaly figured it out. It must have been
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270 T.D.B. claiming TOPS-20, right? ......P-E 550 VDU terminals are definatly
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271 not VT-100 compatible. close to TV-925, though. trying to pull VT-52 data,
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272 if i can't find it maybe BAD can tell me what cursor-up-dwn-cls-etc. are
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273 on a '52 and will check with my P-E.
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274
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275 HROTHGAR, the varied: i looked through the service manual and havn't yet
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276 found the test stake. I will pull the back off and do some visual checking,
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277 but that PC board is a bear to get off! (and on!) ....a pleasure meeting
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278 you. Let's get together sometime; I'm certain you would enjoy seeing my
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279 "facility" here. Lots of toys/micros/minis.
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280
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281 layde of dragons! : we finaly meet! after some initial confusion, things
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282 went well. You are truly beautiful; in mind, body and spirit! I was pleased
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283 that you and the Dark Prince finally got aquainted formaly.
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284
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285 Aaron
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286 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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287 8888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888
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288 I AM GLAD YOU ALL FINALLY MET. FOO!
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289
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290 8888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888
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291
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292 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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293 does anyone know where jody is? i haven't heard from her in a long time on
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294 this system. i wonder where she went....
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295
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296 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::dump:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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297
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298 LIST
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299 10 'KGON COMPUTER BBS
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300 20 CLEAR9000
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301 40 DIMNAME$(355),TEXT$(40)
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302 50 CLS:LINEINPUT"BBS OPERATING DISK IN DRIVE 0 AND A MESSAGE DISK IN DRIVE 1. PRESS ENTER TO CONTINUE.";C$
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303 60 OPEN"I",1,"MEMBERS":INPUT#1,NUM:FORI=1TONUM:INPUT#1,NAME$(I):NEXT:CLOSE:CLS:PRINT"KGON BBS IS READY FOR CALLS
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304 70 D1=1:D1$="1":D2=0:D2$="0" 'Message (D1) and Program (D2) Drive Numbers
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305 80 'Logon Procedure
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306 90 LINEINPUTSTART$:FORI=1TO100:NEXT
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307 100 PRINT
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308 110 PRINT"************************
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309 120 PRINT"THE
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310 130 PRINT"K G O N
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311 140 PRINT"ROCK AND ROLL
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312 150 PRINT"C O M P U T E R
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313 160 PRINT"************************
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314 170 PRINT"(Version1.4/Online 14Nov83)"
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315 200 PRINT" Your System Operator is Chris Burns. If you have any questions or comments about use of this system, leave a messa
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316 addressed to SYS.
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317 210 PRINT"Please use UPPER CASE for INITIALS, MESSAGE subjects and ROCKFILE names. KGON Hacks!
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318 220 FORX=1TO500:NEXTX:Z=0:YR=0
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319 230 MSG$="Your three INITIALS, please:":GOSUB1380:I$=C$:ACT$="* "+I$+" "
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320 240 FL=FL+1:IFLEN(I$)<>3THENIFFL=3THENNAME$="FRIEND":GOTO1190ELSE230
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321 250 GOSUB1360:IFMBR THENN$=NAME$(I):S=INSTR(N$," ")-4:NAME$=MID$(N$,4,S):INITS$=LEFT$(N$,3)ELSE290
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322 260 MSG$=RIGHT$(N$,LEN(N$)-3)+","+CHR$(13)+"right<Y/N>? ":GOSUB1380:IFC$<>"Y"ANDC$<>"N"THEN260
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323 270 IFC$="Y"THENPRINT"Checking for messages.":C=1:GOSUB700:GOSUB500:GOTO420
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324 280 'New Member Signup
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325 290 LINEINPUT"So, what's your first name: ";NAME$:LINEINPUT"and your last name:";LAST$:ACT$=ACT$+" "+NAME$+" "+LAST$+" "
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326 300 IFLEN(ACT$)<13THEN1190ELSEMSG$="You are not yet a User of the KGON Computer."+CHR$(13)+"Would you like to be <Y/N>?"
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327 310 GOSUB1380:IFLEFT$(C$,1)<>"Y"THEN420
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328 ----------------------------------------------------------------
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329 I WONDER WHY ON EARTH ANYONE WOULD DO THAT (SEE ABOVE). THATS BURNSIES BBS. I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHY HE WOULD WANT TO PRINT THE
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330 PROGRAM HERE. MAYBE HE WANTS IT PIRATED. ?????
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331
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332 ------------------------------------MERLYN--------------------------------
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333
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334 PAGING PAM.... PAGING PAM..... PAGING PAM...... HELLO PAM?
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335 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++;
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336 CALL FOR PHILIP MORRIS
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337 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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338 ()()()()()()
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339 Sorry I couldn't make it everybody. Maybe next party? Something came
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340 up at the last moment.
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341 ----------------------------------------------------- P. V. Jeltz -----------
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342 ............................................................................
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343 At last! Just what I have been striving for, the code to the KGON BBS! Aw right!
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344 Well its about time someone cracked that code!
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345 P.V....you missed a good party! Much more friendly than the Bit Bucket party
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346 due to our small numbers and close quarters. Only one computer was present,
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347 Leonard's famous 'Baby'.
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348 OK Aaron, Monday I am going to start bribing profs for passwords! Is that the way
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349 I should go? Seriously, I was really quite shocked to hear about all the
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350 equipment PSU has. I guess I'll have to buy some black shoes, and pen and pencil
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351 holder, a white short sleeve shirt so I look like an EE student, and sneak
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352 back into the rear of the PCAT building! (Or get one of your uniforms)
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353 Would you be willing to tell me more about some of the networks you are
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354 involved with?
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355 ....................tHE dROPPED bIT....................................
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356 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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357 POLITICIANS: An apology
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358
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359 We would like to apologize for the way in which politicians
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360 are represented in this programme. It was never intended to
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361 imply that politicians are weak-kneed political time-servers
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362 who are concerned more with their personal vendettas and
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363 private power struggles than the problems of government, nor
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364 to suggest at any point that they sacrifice their credibility
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365 by denying free debate on vital matters in the mistaken
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366 impression that party unity comes before the well-being of the
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367 people they supposedly represent, nor to imply at any stage
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368 that they are squabbling little toadies without an ounce of
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369 concern for the vital social problems of today. Nor indeed do
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370 we intend that viewers should consider them as crabby ulcerous
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371 little self seeking vermin with furry legs and an excessive
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372 addiction to alcohol and certain explicit sexual practices
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373 which some people might find offensive.
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374
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375 We are sorry if this impression has come across.
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376 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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377
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380 ...................................................................
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385
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386 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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387 Aaron,
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388
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389 Your note was short but to the point. Call me at my work phone and we
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390 can talk about the reader. 241-4115 ask for Peter I'm there 8-5.
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391
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392 Peter
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394 vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
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395 [][][][][][][][][][][] 0733 12/12/83 [][][][][][][][][][][]
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396
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397 ALL: A MOST INTERESTING TIME. ALMOST EVERYONE WAS QUITE WHAT I HAD
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398 EXPECTED. LET'S DO IT AGAIN IN A DECADE OR SO!
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399
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400 I AM SURE THAT ANY POLITICIAN WOULD ACCEPT THAT APOLOGY IN THE SPIRIT
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401 IT WAS WRITTEN.
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402
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403 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] DJJ [][][][][][][][]
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404 ######################################## Sounds like you all had a great time, sorry I didn't make it. Had a previous
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405 commitment to the users group I belong to.
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406 Whoever put the political apology above should at least credit its origin; Python (Monty) inc. 1977
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407
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408 ################C.Y.M.#################################12/12 8:46 am###########
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409 Greetings, my lords and ladies. I too enjoyed the party. I do apoligize for "lurking".
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410 .....................................the apprentice..................................
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411 ****************************************************************
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412 FORREAL: WE ALL READ STUFF WE DON'T PARTICULARLY LIKE. MOST OF
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413 US HAVE THE COURTESY TO IGNOR WHAT DOESN'T SUIT US AND MOVE ON
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414 TO WHAT WE ENJOY. PERHAPS YOU SHOULD DO THE SAME. NATASHA.
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415 ***************************************************************
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416 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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417
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418 All,
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419 It was a most enjoyable experience.
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420 I am sorry I arrived so late but my mistress demanded her monthly bath and
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421 as always the case what was to be one small job turned out to be many
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422 larger ones. Both in time and effort. Perhaps now she will rest at ease for the
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423 remainder of this year.
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424 As for my expectations .........few patrons matched my mental image.
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425 Mikey...the Innkeeper a robust man well nourished on the varied fare of the
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426 Inn.
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427 d, certainly as grand a ladye as I had expected ( even without benifit of
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428 her ever expressive tail )
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429 Aaron...questing forth in search of that one remaining undocumented entry
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430 point. Eyes glazed with anticipation.
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431 Hrothgar....who I had expected to be going in several directions concurently.
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432 Leonard, whom I had expected to be armed to the teeth ...and yet brought but
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433 one instrument of defense.
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434 DJJ, DP ,dROPPEd bIt, et al who contribuited to the diverse conversations.
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435 Many thanks for the experience.
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436
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437 I frequent M&T and on Saturday there were many who were unknown and seemed to
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438 be more than casualy interested in the gathering......how many patrons of the
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439 Inn went but stayed in the shadows ?
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440
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441 For my own curiosity.... are there any sailors who frequent the Inn ??
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442
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443 ::::::::::::::::Alex::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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445
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446 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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447
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448 I HAD STARTED WRITING A NICE LONG TRACT ON "1984" AND FREEDOM OF
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449 THE PRESS (OFF-LINE OF COURSE), AND FOUND THAT I'D FILLED UP 4 PAGES AND
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450 WASN'T FINISHED! SO I THINK I'LL LET IT SIT AND TRY TO CUT IT DOWN TO
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451 REASONABLE SIZE LATER. AND I HADN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO BIG BROTHER OR IN-
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452 VASIONS OF PRIVACY! BOY, LONG-WINDED!.......
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453
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454 SORRY TO EVERYONE I DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE GET-TOGETHER, BUT IT WAS
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455 A COMBINATION OF WEARYNESS FROM LONG HOURS ON THE ROAD THE DAY BEFORE
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456 AND UTTER TERROR OF SUCH THINGS THAT KEPT ME AWAY. I HAVE A TERRIBLE TIME
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457 GOING TO PARTIES WHERE I KNOW EVERYONE, AND GOING TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT
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458 WHERE I'VE ONLY MET OTHERS THROUGH THEIR WRITING....TREMBLE, TREMBLE! I
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459 SEEM TO HAVE GONE BACKWARDS IN THAT WAY, AS WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER I HAD
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460 NO SUCH FEARS. OH WELL....
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461 AARON, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE THE SYSTEM FAIRLY WELL DESIGNED
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462 ALREADY. I ASSUME THAT YOU ARE USING A VARIETY OF UNUSUAL EQUIPMENT FOR
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463 IT, SO THE CODE PROBABLY WON'T BE VERY TRANSPORTABLE. CORRECT?
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464
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465 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]PAM.[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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466
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468 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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470 +++++++++++++++++ I.S.S. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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471 DEAR PERSON ABOVE: IF ANY OF THAT STUFF WORKS WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO KNOW
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472 HOW. ESPECIALLY MIKEY, PROBABLY. KEEP ON TRYING.
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473
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474 TO ALL OF THE PARTY GOERS - THANKS! I HAD A GREAT TIME. HOW ABOUT A
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475 PICNIC IN THE SPRING? I ALSO WONDER IF SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE AROUND THE
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476 OTHER TABLES WEREN'T LURKING. ONE PERSON ABOVE SEEMS TO IMPLY THAT.
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477
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478 AARON: WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE TOYS 'FER SURE', HOW ABOUT AFTER NEW YEARS?
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479
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480 ALEX - DIDN'T GET ENOUGH OF A CHANCE TO TALK TO YOU - ARE YOU ALSO IN
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481 THE COMPUTER BUSINESS?
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482
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483 DROPPED BIT: STEVE, RIGHT? IF SO WILL DO HAVE NUMBER. IF NOT MIGHT SO,
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484 LEAVE NUMBER.
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485
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486 d: enjoyed the artwork.
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487
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488 pam: hello again, compadre. benvenuto.
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489
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490 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HROTHGAR, THE HOOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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491 .......................................................................
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492 Hrothgar, the ?...Yes you have my card. Either call at work or at home,
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493 When it comes to programming jobs, I am usually quite reachable.As for
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494 lurkers, I can't imagine anyone would stay in the shadows at the MT for
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495 long. We certainly didn't look like much of a motley crew, and I don't
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496 think we would scare a lurker away. Those other people were probably just
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497 passers-bye. When we first got to MT, there were a couple of 'old-salts'
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498 sitting at the next table, but they soon left. The others around us were
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499 there before we got there, and seemed quite pre-occupied with themselves.
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500 To Alex, I would not call myself a sailor, but I used to go sailing once
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501 in a while with my uncle, who was quite a sailor. One summer he sailed
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502 from Portland to Hawaii alone. Quite an adventure! Nothing compared to
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503 the trans-atlantics you read about these days, but still no small feat.
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504 ................tHE dROPPED bIT........................................
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505 *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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506 It seemed to me that one gentlemen that occupied one of the adjacent
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507 tables (reading a newspaper) was very interested in our discussions...
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508 perhaps the Apprentice?
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509 To all: I had an excellent time, although I was probably the biggest
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510 computer novice in the group.
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511 Aaron: It was nice meeting you. I avidly await your new system.
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512 With your electronic skills, I'm sure it will be a success.
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513 d: We finally meet, I think reality completely outpaced my
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514 expectations.
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515 Alex: I've done some sailing the last couple of years with my roommate.
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516 He has an open sailing dory, built by Schooner Creek Boat Works.
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517 All in all I felt the gathering was a success and would like to see
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518 it repeated in the future.
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519 DP
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520 *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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521
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522 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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523 tHE dROPPED bIT: almost. be sure to dye your hair black, use a gob of
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524 brylcream, and wear black hornrim glasses. Don't forget the HP-41CV (next
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525 to the slide-rule). But seriously. Which "networks" were you intrested in?
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526 CSNET? DARPA? OSSHE? (hardly a net) USENET?
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527 What sort of board does/did DJJ have? You refered to it on LN 125.
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528
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529 Peter: will call you tommorow (today?).
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530
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531 Pam: Quite possibly Unicom will be more portable than I originally
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532 had thought probable. Even though it will be restricted to the same type of
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533 machine it was written on, it should port well to other instalations of the
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534 same make. I will be writing significantly more of the code in the machine's
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535 own OS than I had planned. Should make the system more reliable, yet slower.
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536 Will keep you posted.
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537
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538 DP: Thanks for the enthusiasm! I hope Unicom goes as well as the not-a-pizza
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539 party; it certainly is taking as long to get together!
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540
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541 Hrothgar: Done. January it is. I'll start cleaning now. Should be done
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542 by then. Or at least started.....Keep me posted on anything new.
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543 Aaron
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544 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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545 i'm new to this system and it seems like a nice place to be. i'm only famili
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546 iar with cbm products(c-64) so maybe i'mon the wrong board.however, if there
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547 are any other commodore users out there with questions, opinions,or just wan
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548 t to talk-leave a message!
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549 ---------------bob lange
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550 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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551 there are several C64 users on this system, Bob, and I am one of them.
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552 Here's my question:
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553 Why are SERIAL and CSERIAL options mutually exclusive? Flagging on the
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554 SERIAL port occurs only on incoming FLAG transitions, and is self-serviced
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555 by appropriate NMI transactions. True, out-shifting is also NMI driven, yet
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556 the out-shift driver only (and non-destructivly) toggles in on CHROUT
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557 request to SERIAL, and auto-magicly disintegrates when OUTBUF empties.
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558 CSERIAL exception processing (quit laughing David) is also CHROUT event-
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559 driven. Thus, in theory, both SERIAL and CSERIAL should be able to have open
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560 files in the OS open file table, and not conflict unless both try concurrent
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561 operation. (In fact, if it weren't for timing constraints placed on CSERIAL
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562 transactions, the auto-tracking (stack-wise) of multiple interrupts would
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563 make CONCURRENT operation possible!) Yet this does not work. Why?
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564 Aaron
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565 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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566 ########################################
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567 Aaron: here's a simpler question! why did Commodore change the color on
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568 all the c-64 cases? Now non of my Vic stuff Matches but is still compatable?
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569
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570 #################C.Y.M.#################################12/133 an ungodly hr
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571
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||
572 Alex:you didn't look inside my pack, did you...(heh, heh)
|
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573 Seriously, I have an EXTREMELY dislike for the "armed to the teeth, gonna
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||
574 reconquer the world (after the war), etc", so-called "survivalist". You know
|
||
575 the people running are the woods in camoflague (sp?) fatigues, scaring
|
||
576 campers & hunters. Rule #1 in survival is DON'T CALL (UNNECESSARY) ATTENTION
|
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577 TO YOURSELF!
|
||
578 The only gun I own is a .22 that hasn't been fired in YEARS (15,20?).
|
||
579 ____________________________Leonard____________________________________
|
||
580
|
||
581 ****************************************************************************
|
||
582 SO, HERE WE GO AGAIN, DISK A ALMOST FILLED UP AND LOTS OF ROOM ON
|
||
583 DRIVE B. GEE, PAM WHAT HAPPENED? I CAN USUALLY COUNT ON YOU AT LEAST
|
||
584 ATTEMPTING TO FILL THIS MESS UP.
|
||
585 AM I TO BE STUCK FILLING IT UP BY MYSELF?
|
||
586 I GUESS SO SINCE THERE IS ALMOST NO ROOM LEFT ON DRIVE A
|
||
587 AND IT WILL CERTAINLY BE FULL IN THE MORNING IF NOT BEFORE.
|
||
588 SO I GUESS I'LL JUST TYPE AWAY
|
||
589 TILL THIS ONE IS FULL SO AS TO BE ABLE TO ARCHIVE IT.
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590 YUCK, ONLY LINE 590 GOT LOTS OF LINES TO GO.
|
||
591 I WONDER IF I REALY WANT TO DO THIS.
|
||
592 I COULD JUST ARCHIVE IT AS IS IN THE MORN, OR TONIGHT.
|
||
593 MAYBE I'LL JUST GIVE UP AND DO THAT.
|
||
594 CHECK IT ONE MORE TIME BEFORE I GO
|
||
595 TO BED, AND THEN IF IT IS NOT FULL YET WAIT
|
||
596 TILL MORNING. CAUSE THIS IS REALLY BORING.
|
||
597 ***************** A BORED CISTOP MIKEY *************************
|
||
598 , ^L^L ^H . ^H^H^H...
|
||
599 ...................................................................
|
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600 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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601
|
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602 SORRY, MIKEY, I KNOW THAT I NORMALLY AM THE ONE TO FILL THESE DISKS
|
||
603 UP AT THE END, BUT I WAS HOPING THAT SOMEONE ELSE OUT THERE KEPT UP WITH
|
||
604 WHAT WAS GOING ON AT THE END OF THE DISKS AND WOULD ADD A COMMENT OR TWO.
|
||
605 SO DISK A IS ALREADY UP TO LINE 627, AND THERE ARE STILL PLENTY OF LINES
|
||
606 LEFT HERE. <SIGH>....
|
||
607 I WAS PLANNING ON ENTERING SOMETHING ON DISK A, BUT IT FILLED UP SO
|
||
608 QUICKLY THAT I WAS UNABLE TO. NO ROOM!! BUT I KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE
|
||
609 A NEW DISK TOMORROW, SO THERE WILL BE TIME AND SPACE FOR MY WANDERINGS.
|
||
610
|
||
611 LEONARD PROBABLY WON'T SEE THIS, BUT I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR THE
|
||
612 INTERESTING TEXT HE SENT TO BW. IT TOOK UP A LOT OF SPACE, BUT IT'S NICE
|
||
613 TO SEE MORE INFORMATION FROM ANOTHER SOURCE BESIDES OUR OWN LITTLE COM-
|
||
614 MENTARY. THE "HACKER" PHENOMENON IS ONE I FIND BOTHERSOME, AS IT MAY
|
||
615 PUT AN END TO ON-LINE COMPUTER FUN (SUCH AS THIS) IF IT CONTINUES UNCHECKED.
|
||
616 I HOPE THAT HE (YOU, IF YOU DO READ THIS LEONARD) UPLOADS IT TO ANOTHER
|
||
617 BBS (SUCH AS CBBS) WHERE IT CAN BE KEPT AS A DOWNLOAD FILE FOR OTHERS TO
|
||
618 SEE AND USE. I KEEP HARD-COPY OF EVERYTHING I CAN FROM THIS SYSTEM, AND
|
||
619 EVERYTHING OF INTEREST (TO ME) FROM OTHERS, BUT THE OL' BW DOESN'T KEEP
|
||
620 ANYTHING AVAILABLE BEYOND 2 TO 4 DAYS (AND SOMETIMES LESS THE WAY THINGS
|
||
621 GO WHEN WE GET A SUBJECT PEOPLE GET HOT ABOUT), SO IT WOULD BE BEST TO
|
||
622 FILE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE TOO.
|
||
623
|
||
624 ARRGH!! LINE 624 OF 629!! THERE JUST ISN'T ANY ROOM LEFT HERE (OR
|
||
625 ON THE OTHER DISK) FOR ME TO WRITE ANYTHING OF MAJOR INTEREST, SO I GUESS
|
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626 I'LL JUST SIGN OFF FOR NOW.
|
||
627 GOOD GRIEF, IT'S LATE!!!!
|
||
628
|
||
629 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]PAM+[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
|
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