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NUMBER OF LINES: 629
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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
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2 ********************** REMOVED: 20 NOV 83 ***************************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (Backwater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION PLACED ON
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6 THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privatly owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system.
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10 It is intended that the system be normally used for messages and
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11 advertisments by the users. As the system is privatly owned, I retain the
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12 right to remove any and all messages which I may find offensive
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13 to me. Additionally because of the limited size of the disk, it will be
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14 periodically purged of older messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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15 The saved information will be cycled to drive 'B' while the information on
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16 drive 'B' will be archived, and a fresh disk will be installed in drive 'A'.
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17 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out
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18 of the enter mode. The message is automaticly stored.
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19 If after entering the message you find you made a mistake,
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20 use the replace command to replace the line.
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21 To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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22 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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23 ========================================
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24
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25 I have been asked to comment on the recent goings on here, very well, i
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26 shall provide it. "No comment".
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27 I do not have strong feelings as to how this system is used, as long as
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28 it doesn't get too far out of hand I refuse to do any thing in any way.
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29 There have been a few complaints about "lurkers" hanging on the system
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30 for hours. I assure you, that this is not the case. The average connect
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31 time is 15 min. If anything, the abusers of time are the 'old timers'.
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32 here, when they get into a rave they can hang on for over an hour.
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33 (Including yours truly I'm afraid!)
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34 Anyhow, as you have noticed, yes the system is in transistion yet once
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35 again. This is inevitable. The system always fluctuates. Some will survive
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36 the change, and others will move on. I think that the upcoming bwms party
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37 (assuming it takes place; which it appears now that it will) will have
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38 a major impact on the new form which bwms will take. We'll see.
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39 As for party time, I am open as log as I can get a weeks warning to be
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40 able to schedule around it. Though I must warn you that business will
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41 take presidence. I will notify you in advance as I am unable to make it
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42 if it comes to that, though I do hope that that won't happen.
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43 ******** CISTOP MIKEY *********** 13 NOV 83 ********* 8:30PM ***********
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44 P.S. I JUST WASTED 1/2 HOUR OF YOUR PRECIOUS TIME, SO I'LL GET OFF AND
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45 LET SOMEONE ELSE USE BWMS.
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46 ***********************************************************************
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47
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48 Aaron: Greatings.
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49
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50 Finally got almost everything working on my terminal program. I still have
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51 to work on the buffer section, and the set-up menu...but the rest works fine.
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52
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53 As for the "Party" goes, you can count me in if my schedule is free for the
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54 selected day. And last....
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55
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56 I vote to CAN Jody and Luke...I've heard it before on this system, and I
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57 don't think we need it again.
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58
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59 Well Aaron, I will probably speak with you tonight....
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60
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61 ALL: let's start an interesting conversation....anything!
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62
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63
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64 The Sysm...Back from the long hibernation.
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65
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66 +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*
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67 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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68
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69 ALL: If you will leave ON THE SYSTEM the DAY(s) and TIME(s) O.K. for
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70 you for the party, I will keep a running total of votes accrued. Include
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71 prefered location.
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72
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73 Sysm: tonight it is.......
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74 Aaron
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75 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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76 o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_
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77 I think the online romance is as sweeeeettt as fresh blood, but remember the
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78 Black Widow's way............
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79 o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o_o*********** Aqualung ********o_o_o_
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80
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81 Oh, let'em have their fun. Haven't left a message in a long while,
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82 please don't call me a lurker. Will come to the party, whenever it is.
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83 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!P.V. Jeltz!!!!!!!!!!!
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84 ........................................................................
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85 To Aaron...OryCon...at times a zoo, at other times frustrating, at other
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86 times, pure euphoria to a true SF fan. Several hundred attended, but it
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87 usually didn't feel like it was over crowded. Some of the panel discusions
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88 and guest speakers were very interesting, others were, shall we say, old
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89 hat and boring.
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90 All in all, a pretty enjoyable show, but let me tell you, there are some
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91 strang people down there. They really come out at the costume party!
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92
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93 The DEC system I use runs TOPS20, a truely enjoyable OS. Are you familiar
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94 with it?
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95 Interesting idea for your new BBS. But one note. I have seen this before,
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96 and when too many restrictions on membership occur, the BBS soon restricts
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97 itself right out of members. I am confident, that if you go ahead with
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98 your plans, you will use good judgement.
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99 ..............The dropped Bit.............................................
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100 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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101 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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102 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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103 This is a very loose and unrestricted BBS, as compared with the others I've
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104 been looking at lately. I'm just trying out this Hayes Micromodem on trial
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105 for a few days, and am still uncertain whether I'll buy it or not. In the
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106 mean time, I've been dialing up numerous other BBS's, and so far this is by
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107 FAR the most liberal....although it did take me all day to get on-line.
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108 Anyway, thanks for the insight.
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109
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110 Brian
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111 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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112 113 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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114 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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115
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116 Dropped Bit: No, never have used it. I fear I wouldn't like it unless
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117 it's very VMS or MPE like. As to the restrictive environment, I too share
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118 your fears of it getting out of hand. I don't want to restrict what is said
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119 on my system; just who says it. (!) I would picture it to be a safe haven; a
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120 refuge from the storm, where the users know each other and the system.
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121
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122 Are you a programmer, or are you into systems management, or an end user?
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123 Aaron
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124 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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125 TO ALL
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126 FROM: CHRIS BURNS
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127 SUBJ: KGON COMPUTER
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128
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129 CALL THE NEWEST BBS IN TOWN, THE
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130 K G O N C O M P U T E R
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131 657-xxxx
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132 FREE ALBUMS TO FIRST TEN ONLINE AFTER SIX TONIGHT
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133 MONDAY, NOV14TH,1983.
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134 THANKS AND PASS NUMBER AROUND,
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135 WE'LL TAKE THE BUBBLEGUM.
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136
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137 SYSOP, IF YOU READ THIS, I NEED A MESSAGE POSTED WIH THE KGON
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138 BBS NUMBER ON IT 657-xxxx
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139 SORRY, CAN'T SEEM TO FIGURE THIS SYSTEM OUT
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140 ON SHORT NOTICE. I'LL BE BACK ONLINE LATER TO
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141 SEE WHAT GOES ON HERE.
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142 THANKS,
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143 CHRIS BURNS
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144 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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145 Well, I have definatly seen it from all points..though seems that most
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146 people don't mind Luke and I conversing this way on this system. However....
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147 there still is that few who don't want us to use this system. Question: if
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148 we don't stop..... are you going to quit using this system?
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149 If so then I think we should kick this thing in the bucket. But I really
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150 don't think any of you would change from the Inn to a lesser just because of
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151 a small quavering of the hearts. WOULD YOU????
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152 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxJodyxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxP.S.xx
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153 Luke: howdy...... haven't heard from you in a while. I hope this (small)
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154 rant doesn't drive you off.(hee,haw).
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155 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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156
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157 Great buys on computer hardware and software,can match or
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158 beat Conroy-LaPoint's prices. Call Universal Computer at
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159 659-xxxx. Big sale now on Spirit 80 print for $300...just
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160 like the Epson MX-80 only better print head and quality.
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161
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162 break
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163 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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164 Dearest Jody,
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165 No small rant would drive me off. Until you say so I am going to
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166 continue this. I would really like to meet you, but it sounds like your
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167 weekend schedule is used up for next weekend. When is your next available
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168 time? Are you going to be busy friday too? My heart grows lonelier each
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169 and every day! The ball is in your court. What do you say? I'll be
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170 checking in later today(if I can get through)...
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171 a bien tot mon amour
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172 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Luke ||||||||||||
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173 PS If we switched BBS's, which one would you want to go to?
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174 (*)(:)(*)(:)(*)(:)(*)(:)(*)(:)(*)(:)(*)(:)(*)(:)(*)(:)(*)(:)(*)(
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175 Hello dear Luke........
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176 Ths friday is bad too. Any other weekend would be fine I think though. How
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177 about for you. I don't mind using this system. If we are forced to leave
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178 ****************************************************************************
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179
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180
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181 Jody/Luke: noone wants you to leave the system....
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182 Those of us that care merely wish the conversation take a different route.
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183
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184 The Sysm....not really caring.
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185
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186 ****************************************************************************
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187
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188 **************************************************************** Luke: (I
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189 was disconnectd but I'm back now). We could change to the CCBS if we have t
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190 o. I really don't want to. But if this type of conversation is not wanted
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191 maybe we should keep this conversation on a different BBS. I am willing to
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192 meet you almost anytime on a weekend other than the 18th-20th. I am really
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193 curious to meet you. You have a lonely heart? Maybe I can cure it. Then
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194 again.... maybe not. And visa-versa. Have I yet told you what I looked like?
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195 Did you already know? Am I going to find out your real name when I meet you?
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196 I have no intensions of making you reveal yourself on this system. But maybe
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197 in person??? Let me know.............
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198
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199 Au revoir mon petit amie. Je t'aime tres beaucoup
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200 Salut!
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201 ****************************************************************************
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202 To you two would-be lovers: PMS (245-xxxx) is a quiet, secluded little
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203 place perfectly suited for whispering sweet nothings. Please go there.
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204 Though a whiff of romance makes me smile, I tire of listening to it,
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205 and encourage both of you to contribute IDEAS when visiting the Inn!
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206 (Would YOU like to eavesdrop on someone elses' pillow talk?)
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207 {{><}}=={{><}}=={{><}}=={{><}}=={{><}}=={{><}}=={{><}}=={{><}}=={{><}}
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208 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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209 OK...enough is enough. One last message to Jody, and after that, I'll try to
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210 get back into the traditional conversations that was prevalent in the Inn before
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211 I met Jody.
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212 To Jody...the weekend of 25-27th is good. That also happens to be Thanksgiving
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213 weekend? How about you? Of course I am not going through the rest of
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214 my life as Luke. That is a mere pseudo name for use only on BWMS. Of line I
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215 DO have a real name(as well as names people call me) Let me know on the weekend
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216 thing. But we better cool it. I am still anxious to meet, but we should give
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217 the other users a break(did I hear a cheer from the other patrons in the INN?)
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218 anyway, chat with you later mon amour.
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219 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Luke ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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220 'And now for something, completely different'
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221 If any other good users of the Inn watched 60 minutes last Sunday, you
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222 no doubt say the segment about ABC's upcoming movie, 'The Day After'. A
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223 movie which covers the affect of nuclear war on a small midwest town, that
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224 happens to be located near some little ol' missle silos(targets). The anti
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225 nuclear fweapons groups(pro-freeze) are having a field day. Running commercials
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226 with big name stars, showing pirated copies of the movie at rallys and so forth.
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227 The anti-freeze ( and moral majority leader Jerry Falwell, recovering from
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228 his PentHouse interview no doubt) are very much against the movie. ABC shrugs
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229 its shoulders and says the movie is a-political. Since we were just about
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230 to get into a big nuclear debate(we have had everything else), how is this for
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231 a base of discussion? If we can all recover from the 'Love BBS' and get back
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232 to the hardline issues and stands that have made
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233 BWMS famous. Well???
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234 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Luke |||||||||||||||||
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235 ---------------------------------------- "FOUR BE THE THINGS I'D BEEN BETTER
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236 WITHOUT: LOVE,CURIOSITY, FRECKLES, AND DOUBT"
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237 -DOROTHY PARKER
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238
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239
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240
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241 ********************************************************************************
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242 "IN TIME OF WAR, THE FIRST CASUALTY IS TRUTH"
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243 -BOAKE CARTER
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244
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245 ********************************************************************************
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246
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247 "I ONCE SHOT AN ELEPHANT IN MY PAJAMAS....
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248 -GROUCH MARX
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249
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250 ********************************************************************************
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251
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252 ........................................................................
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253 tHE Love BBS! Well now!
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254 To Aaron. I am a programmer/user. My main purpose is not programming, but
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255 to accomplish my main purpose, I have to program. I have had to become quite
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256 familiar with the system and computers in general to make things easier for
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257 me. Are you a student/programmer/systems analyst/or what? From reading your
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258 messages, it sounds like you have a good computer background.
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259 It will be interesting to see the new turn BWMS will take now. What do
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260 you think about the
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261 whole situation? And if you would rather not answer THAT question, what is
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262 your opinion of the nuclear freeze movement(just to get soemthing new
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263 rolling)?
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264 ...............The dropped Bit...........................................
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265 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
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266 Luke....
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267 I am sorry to say you are probably right about cutting this fun and sweet
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268 conversation. I think the weekend of the 25th would be good. I don't see any
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269 problem with it. What should we do while we are there? Do you like the
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270 Electic Palace? Thats usualy where I spend most of my time. I would enjoy
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271 doing almost anything though.(except iceskating). Well, I guess its fairly put
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272 together huh? All except time and which day. But maybe we should cross that
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273 bridge just before we come to it. Well, I guess thats it for our lovely little
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274 conversations for the time being (**sniff**sniff**).
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275 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-Jody-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
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276
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277 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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278 Dropped Bit: Bingo! thats me! student/programmer/systems analyst. I seem
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279 to be doing more systems analysis than any of the others at the moment
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280 (currently translating a DP shop's accounting from "human" to "computer")
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281
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282 As for BWMS becoming a lovers haven; I feel like I am listening in on one
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283 of those tele-sex services advertised in Playboy , and other periodicals
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284 of that ilk. I dislike it with a passion. Sysm's wrong. Leave. Please.
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285
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286 If I had the power, I would remove every ICBM silo in the US in an
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287 instant; even if the USSR's were still kept. I can't justify wiping a few
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288 100M humans (be they Rusky, or not) from existence just to keep the USA
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289 safe from socialism or communism or anything. My relative comfort dosn't
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290 equate with x number of lives.
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291 Aaron
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292 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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293 WELL NOW!
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294 DEAR JODY AND LUKE: PLEASE NOTE EXTENSIVE SUPPORT GIVEN TO YOU POSITION
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295 AT END OF LAST DISK. DON'T LEAVE. AARON SEEMS TO HAVE BECOME AN OLD
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296 CURMUDGEON AT THE AGE OF TWENTY.(OR SO?)
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297 I SHOULD HAVE CHECKED OUT THIS DISK BEFORE I STARTED FILLING UP THE END
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298 OF THAT ONE. BUT WHEN I SIGNED ON THERE WAS NO ANSWER TO MY FIRST CALL,
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299 JUST NO CONNECT AND I ASSUMED WRONGLY THAT MIKEY HAD JUST CHANGED DISKS
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300 AS THE END OF B WAS UNUSED.
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301 TO REITERATE: A FEW OF THESE TECHNONERDS WOULD RATHER BITCH AND COMPLAIN
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302 THAN BILL AND COO. THAT DOESN'T MAKE THEM SMARTER THAN YOU ARE.
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303 DON'T LEAVE THE SYSTEM. PLEASE.
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304
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305 NOW ON ANOTHER NOTE: DOES THE PLACE AT HAYDEN ISLAND ALLOW MINORS?
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306 AGREE SOME SORT OF RESTAURANT BEST. AS LONG AS WE STAY IN THE RESTAURANT
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307 AREA, THOSE WHO WANTED TO COULD STILL GET A BEER WHILE ACCOMODATING
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308 THOSE WHO DON'T.
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309
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310 MIKEY, WHAT ARE YOU ALLERGIC TO ? MSG? MOST OF THOSE CHINESE PLACES WILL
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311 HOLD THE MSG IF YOU ASK THEM TO AND SAY YOU ARE ALLERGIC.
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312
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313 DOES ANYBODY HERE KNOW ANYONE DOING COMMERCIAL-QUALITY WORK IN COMPUTER
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314 GRAPHICS FOR TV, MOVIES, OR VIDEO PRODUCTIONS, OF FOR PRINTED REPRODUCTION
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315 THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO TALK ABOUT IT WITH ME AND MAYBE SHOW OFF THE
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316 EQUIPMENT, ETC?
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317
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318 WEEKEND NEXT OK WITH ME OR WEEKEND AFTER.
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319
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320 THE NEED FOR A NUCLEAR WEAPONS BAN IS SO APPARENT TO ME AT THIS POINT
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321 THAT I REFUSE TO DEBATE IT ANY MORE. LETS FIND ANOTHER TOPIC. I'VE BEEN
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322 ON THAT ONE FOR TWENTY YEARS.
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323 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HROTHGAR, THE PUBLIC SPIRITED!!!!!!!!!!!!
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324
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325 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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326
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327 LUKE & JODY, THERE IS NO ANGER ON MY PART AT LEAST, BUT A BIT OF
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328 WISTFULNESS. IT REMINDS ME OF YOUNGER DAYS (THOUGH I'M REALLY NOT THAT
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329 OLD) WHEN SUCH THINGS CAME EASIER. PLEASE DON'T GO (SORRY AARON), BUT
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330 GIVE US MORE OF YOUR MINDS AS WELL AS YOUR HEARTS. I LIKE VARIED CON-
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331 VERSATION, AND IT BOTHERS ME A LITTLE WHEN ANY ONE SUBJECT DOMINATES
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332 FOR VERY LONG (INCLUDING RELIGION!).
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333
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334 MIKEY, YOU SOUND A BIT IRRITATED. IF IT WAS SOMETHING I SAID IN A
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335 FIT OF UNMITIGATED FOOLISHNESS, PLEASE FORGIVE ME. IF IT WAS SOMETHING
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336 ANOTHER USER(S) SAID, WE'RE ALL JUST CHILDREN ANYWAY, AND KIDS DO AND
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337 SAY SILLY THINGS. BUT THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS ANGER YOU, AND I'D
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338 RATHER LEAVE THE INN PERMANENTLY THAN RISK YOUR ALIENATION.
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339
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340 AARON, YOUR BB SOUNDS GREAT, BUT I HAVE NEVER JOINED A "MEMBERS ONLY"
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341 SYSTEM FOR TWO REASONS:
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342 1) MEMBERS ONLY CLUBS BECOME STAGNANT AND BORING DUE TO THE LACK OF NEW
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343 PEOPLE AND IDEAS. HOW WOULD YOU GET NEW USERS?
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344 2) I LOVE MY ANONYMITY. IT ALLOWS ME TO SAY UNUSUAL THINGS AND TAKE
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345 CONTROVERSIAL STANDS WITHOUT THE FEAR THAT THEY MIGHT COME BACK TO HAUNT
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346 ME IN MY EVERYDAY LIFE AS CLARK KENT, MILD MANNERED REPORTER....
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347 FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS RELATIVE. WE CAN SAY WHAT WE WANT, BUT WE MAY HAVE
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348 TO PAY A PRICE. HOW WOULD I PAY THE FEE AND YET REMAIN ANONYMOUS (EXCUSE
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349 ME, ANON!)?
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350
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351 AH, NUKES. I ONCE WAS VERY VOCAL ABOUT SUCH THINGS, MARCHING,
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352 COLLECTING DONATIONS, ETC.. I EVEN HAD A NICE LITTLE SCAR PLACED ON THE
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353 SIDE OF MY HEAD BY A JACK-BOOTED STORM-TROOPER WHO DECIDED TO SHOW HOW
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354 HEROIC HE WAS BY CRACKING THE SKULL OF A BYSTANDER (I STILL BEAR SOME
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355 ANIMOSITY TOWARD HIS FUHRER, REAGAN). MAYBE MY IMPOSING 5' AND 89lbs.
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356 FRIGHTENED HIM. FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM FALWELL AND OTHERS, IT'S NOT
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357 THE FACTS OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AFTER SUCH AN EVENT THAT THEY FIND BOTHER-
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358 SOME. IT'S THE IDEA THAT THE CONCEPT OF DETERRENCE THROUGH MIGHT COULD
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359 FAIL, THAT THE WAR COULD EVEN HAPPEN, THAT HAS GOTTEN UNDER THEIR SKIN.
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360
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361 I'VE TAKEN UP MORE SPACE THAN I PLANNED, SO I'LL JUST SIGN OFF AND
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362 LET SOMEONE ELSE GRIPE AWHILE.
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363
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364 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]PAM-[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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365
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366 ----------------------------------------
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367
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368 "IF SOMEONE SAYS THAT WAR IS NECESSARY FOR REVOLUTION, ONE MUST REPLY THAT
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369 IN A WAR THE WORKING CLASSES DIE MOST OF ALL"
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370 -NIKITA KRUSHCHEV
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371
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372
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373 ----------------------------------------
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374 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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375 To all: I have NO intension of leaving this particular BBS. None what so
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376 ever! I am willing to cut this conversation down to an occasional reply but
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377 I won't leave this system unless sysop Mike wants me to.
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378
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379 I am fairly new to this BBS though. I have just recently picked up on what
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380 the Inn was. Now I wonder who is Mikey? I sometimes think he is the sysop
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381 but the 'intro' says Mike Day is the sysop. I get confused. Would someone
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382 explain it to me?
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383 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^JODY^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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384
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385 IT WAS SOFT HEADED KNEE JERK LIBERAL THINKING LIKE THAT THAT GOT
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386 KRUSCHEV PURGED. ANYBODY READ HIS MEMOIRS? IT WAS CONSIDERED A MILESTONE
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387 IN RUSSIAN POLITICAL LIFE WHEN THEY LET HIM LIVE AFTER BEING 'RETIRED'.
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388 HE WAS THE FIRST RUSSIAN LEADER SINCE THE REVOLUTION TO LIVE THROUGH THE
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389 PROCESS OUTSIDE OF SIBERIA. AN EXTREMELY INTERESTING FIGURE. SPEAKING OF
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390 GOOD NUCLEAR SENSE, IT WAS PROBABLY KRUSCHEV, NOT KENNEDY, WHO KEPT THE
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391 WORLD FROM BEING BLOWN UP OVER THE CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS. PEOPLE WORRY
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392 A LOT ABOUT RUSSIAN SNEAK ATTACKS. ACTUALLY, THEY ARE QUITE CONSERVATIVE
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393 IN RUSSIA ABOUT WAR. FOR CENTURIES, THEY HAVE HAD TO BE DRAGGED INTO A
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394 CONFRONTATION, USUALLY BY BEING ATTACKED.
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395 REMEMBER, THEY JUST UP AND DROPPED OUT OF WORLD WAR 1. ONLY GOT INTO
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396 WW2 WHEN HITLER DOUBLE CROSSED THEM AND ATTACKED. ETC.
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397 THEY DO TEND TO HANG ONTO OCCUPIED TERRITORY, THOUGH. AND DO A LOT
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398 OF AGITATION THROUGH SATTELITE STATES.(WHAT WE WOULD CALL OUR 'LOYAL ALLIES
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399 OF THE FREE WORLD' OR SOME SUCH DRIVEL).
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400 ANYWAY, IF THEIR HISTORY IS ANY INDICATION, AS WELL AS CONSIDERING
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401 THE TROUBLE THEY MIGHT HAVE JUST HOLDING TOGETHER EASTERN EUROPE, (AND
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402 THE USSR'S ASIATIC STATES AS WELL), THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE THE FIRST TO'
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403 START A MAJOR CONFRONTATION ONE ON ONE.
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404 LATELY, I'VE BEEN MORE WORRIED THAT WE MIGHT DO IT. ESPECIALLY SINCE SO
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405 MANY IMPORTANT PEOPLE HAVE BOMB-PROOF DIGS NOW. THERE ARE GIANT UNDERGROUND
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406 APARTMENTS JUST OUTSIDE L.A. AND OTHER CITIES NOW. DEEP UNDERGROUND, SELF
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407 CONTAINED FOR A YEAR AND *EXPENSIVE*. SAW AN AD FOR ONE. WHEN THE RICH HAVE
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408 A CHANCE OF LIVING THROUGH A WAR, EVEN IF THEY'RE KIDDING THEMSELVES,
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409 LOOK OUT!
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410 AND WHEN THE FAR-RIGHT EXTREMISTS WHO HAVE HAD SO MUCH INFLUENCE ON
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411 THE GOVERNMENT LATELY REALIZE THEY MIGHT LOSE THE NEXT ELECTION AND
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||
412 HAVE TO WAIT 20 YEARS FOR THEIR NEXT CHANCE......
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413 GUESS I COULDN'T STAND THE PRESSURE OF KEEPING MY MOUTH SHUT ABOUT IT
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||
414 AFTER ALL....... NO SURPRISE TO YOU ALL, I BET...
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415 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HROTHGAR, THE LOQUATIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
||
416 .......................................................................
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417 To Aaron...I'll be back in a while. Got on, then found out I had to leave
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||
418 in a hurry. I want to address some of the things you said.
|
||
419 ............The dropped Bit............................................
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420 I really can't understand what Aaron and others might dislike about the
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||
421 conversation between Jody and Luke. It may be more direct , but I really
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||
422 fail to see the difference between their talk and the former manuverings
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||
423 with the Dragon Lady. It would take a real rationalizer (if that is a
|
||
424 proper word) to deny the obvious sexual overtones of those epistles on
|
||
425 BWMS.
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426
|
||
427 Come on gentlepeople. What's wrong with some innocent fun. Isn't that
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||
428 what life should be? It's bad enough that we have to live with the
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||
429 specter of nuclear destruction without condemning natural heterosexual
|
||
430 attractions.
|
||
431 {}{}{}{}{} Analog Alan {}{}{}{}{} November 15, 1983 {}{}{}{}{} 1842 PST
|
||
432 Why should Jody and Luke be excluded because of their particular present
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||
433 topic. Is it any different really than an other or should it be a rule that
|
||
434 boy must not speak to girl or vise versa. Really, now!
|
||
435 Jody and Luke I'm with you, continue.
|
||
436
|
||
437 George Lurker.
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||
438 ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''``````````````````````````````
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||
439 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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||
440 To Jody and others. Thank you very much for your support. The messages Jody
|
||
441 and I left were not meant to insult or embarrase anyone. They are what they
|
||
442 are. Someone using this system to meet someone else. I personally hope things
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||
443 work out for the best, but if that is not the case, then so be it. I have still
|
||
444 had a lot of fun here, and I hope to continue to do so. Again I thank those
|
||
445 who saw the true light of our messages, and to the others, I apologize.
|
||
446 To Jody. The weekend of the 25th it is. What about Friday? Isn't that the
|
||
447 usual start of 'Ce weekend.'? That would be best for me. I get home from
|
||
448 work about 5:00-5:30. After that I am free. We could meet at the Electric
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||
449 Palace, but I hope we would move on. I used to play video games alot, then
|
||
450 kind of fell out of using them, and now play them occasionally, but not
|
||
451 like I used to. Anyway, there are plenty of things to do there, eating, movies
|
||
452 , stores, and big screen TV's(whoppie).
|
||
453 I'm sure we can find plenty to do.
|
||
454 To Hrothgar the ?. Sorry to hear you don't want to discuss the nuclear(unclear)
|
||
455 subject. Your messages are always full of insightful information, but I under-
|
||
456 stand your reasoning. I hate to harp of a subject, but I think this is one
|
||
457 where the more information available to the public, the better. The 'elite'
|
||
458 we have elected now have us in a spot. If something is not done, I am really
|
||
459 afraid that I might not see the far side of 20. I don't want to sound like
|
||
460 a 'knee jerk liberal', but the way things are escalating, I see only one
|
||
461 option for our little planet, and the option is not a good one. I wish there
|
||
462 was a simple answer, and I don't think some of the techniques used today
|
||
463 are really appropriate, but I don't see any clear paths. It is a confusing
|
||
464 subject. I don't know...I guess the only thing we can do is try to live
|
||
465 our lives and hope for the best. But that seems so hopeless to. Anybody out
|
||
466 there have any ideas for the nuclear confused?
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467 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Luke |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
||
468 ***************************************************************************
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||
469 PAM: THE ONLY THING THAT YOU COULD DO TO ALIENATE ME WOULD BE TO LEAVE THE
|
||
470 SYSTEM. SORRY IF I SOUNDED IRRITATED, PUT IT DOWN TO BEING IRRITATED WITH
|
||
471 THE WORLD IN GENERAL, NO OFFENSE OR PUT DOWN OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT WAS
|
||
472 MENT TO YOU OR ANYONE ELSE. ANY COMPLAINT INVOLVED WAS TOWARDS MYSELF FOR
|
||
473 HAVING TO EXPLAIN FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME MY POLICY IN REGARD TO THE SYSTEM.
|
||
474 AND WISHING I COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY TO NOT HAVE TO DO SO ALL THE TIME.
|
||
475 AS FAR AS THE WAR DEBATE, WHEN I WAS IN THAT PERIOD OF MY LIFE TO SCREAM
|
||
476 AND SHOUT AT THE WORLD ABOUT HOW MESSED UP THINGS WERE, I DIDN'T. I WAS
|
||
477 TO BUSY DOING MY OWN THING TO CARE ABOUT THE WORLD AT LARGE. THEN WHEN
|
||
478 I DID CARE, I NO LONGER HAD MUCH TO SAY BECAUSE I WAS IN THE AIR FORCE.
|
||
479 THEN WHEN I GOT OUT I WAS TOO BUSY TRYING TO SURVIVE AND MAKE MY OWN PLACE
|
||
480 IN THE WORLD TO HAVE TIME FOR THAT SORT OF WORRYING. NOW I DON'T HAVE THE
|
||
481 TIME TO WORRY ABOUT THAT SORT OF THING AS I'M TOO BUSY WORRYING ABOUT
|
||
482 WHERE THE NEXT $$$ IS GOING TO COME FROM TO KEEP MY COMPANY IN ITS $300
|
||
483 A DAY HABIT. (OPERATING EXPENSES, WAGES, AND OF COURSE FILLING UNCLES
|
||
484 OUTSTRETCHED HAND.)
|
||
485 THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT THINGS, I AM! IT IS JUST
|
||
486 THAT I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO WORRY. MY MAIN CONCERN IS THAT REAGAN
|
||
487 APPEARS TO BE VERY TRIGGER HAPPY NOW WITH HIS APPARENT 'SUCCESS' IN
|
||
488 GRANADA. I AM VERY WORRIED THAT THIS COULD PUT THE US IN DIRECT WAR
|
||
489 EFFORTS IN COUTRIES THAT IT WOULD BE BEST WE STAY OUT OF. AS FAR AS
|
||
490 THE RUSKIES ARE CONCERNED, I HAVE BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO BE EXPOSED
|
||
491 TO THIER LIES AND DECIET TO NOT BE FOOLED. AS FAR AS THEIR DESIRE OR
|
||
492 NON DESIRE TO GO TO WAR, IT HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH THE GENERAL POPULANCE,
|
||
493 IT IS THE ELITE IN RUSSIA THAT MAKE THOSE SORTS OF DECISIONS JUST AS
|
||
494 IT IS IN AMERICA. THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE PEOPLE CAN'T KICK OUT THE
|
||
495 RULERS IF THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY DID. OF COURSE THE WHOLE THING IS
|
||
496 A BIT POINTLESS AFTER THE PEASENTS ARE DEAD. AS FAR AS THE APPERENT
|
||
497 VIEW THAT THE WORLD WILL TURN INTO A RADIOACTIVE CINDER, I CAN'T ACCEPT
|
||
498 THAT VIEW EITHER, I HAVE BEEN CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS
|
||
499 OF THINGS TO NOT BELIEVE THAT SORT OF THING. THAT IS NOT TO SAY HOWEVER
|
||
500 THAT MILLIONS WON'T DIE, OR THAT THERE WILL BE SOME VERY BADLY DEFACED
|
||
501 AREAS IN THE WORLD, BUT NEITHER WILL IT BE DESTROYED TOTALY. ALSO, IN
|
||
502 TIME (AND NOT ALL THAT LONG) IT WILL RECOVER. I WAS LOOKING AT A PICTURE
|
||
503 JUST THE OTHER DAY OF A SCIENTIST WALKING AROUND IN AN UNDERGROUND CHAMBER
|
||
504 THAT WAS CREATED BY A N-BOMB TEST IN 1967 HE WAS NOT WEARING ANY PROTECTIVE
|
||
505 GEAR, JUST NORMAL CLOTHES. DID YOU KNOW THAT RUSSIA HAS BEEN EXPERIMENTING
|
||
506 EXCAVATION TECHNICS WITH N-BOMBS? AND WITH SOME SUCCESS. WITH A LOW
|
||
507 RADIATION BOMB, THAT RADIOACTIVITY DROPS TO WORKABLE LEVELS WITHIN A YEAR
|
||
508 OR TWO, AND TO TOTALY SAFE LEVELS IN ABOUT 10 YEARS.
|
||
509 ************ CISTOP MIKEY ********* 15 NOV 83 ******* 11:20PM **********
|
||
510 Hrothgar, I suggest that you may hold a view of the Russian "ruling class" that
|
||
511 does not jive with real life. Find yourself an expert in Russian strategic
|
||
512 thought, converse about it, and report back, if you will. In several decades,
|
||
513 your theory of the more dangerous 'ruling class' may begin to be supportable,
|
||
514 but for today, Russian political aristocracy still is willing to avoid ANY
|
||
515 incursion into Soviet life/soil by ANYone else at nearly ANY cost. My source
|
||
516 is a just-retired Air Force Colonel in my family who speaks honestly but with
|
||
517 justifiable reserve about military and political intelligence to which he was
|
||
518 recently privy as a key member of a high-priority operation recently in the
|
||
519 news. I wouldn't rule out major ERROR by friendly leaders, but, BY DESIGN, it
|
||
520 is the Soviet system that will probably respond IN MASS to a threatening
|
||
521 condition.Sorry, no name please
|
||
522 -------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
524 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
|
||
525 Luke:(sorry folks, I'll make it blunt)---> Fridays are not good for me as it is a distence from point a(my house) to point b(
|
||
526 TC) by buss on a weeknight. The weekend is best for me like saturday. I can be there anytime almost. I do prefer daytime though
|
||
527 If you would prefer night though thats fine too. I am willing to compromise. Gotta go......
|
||
528 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%->JODY<-%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
|
||
529
|
||
530 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
||
531 Jody: Saturday is fine too. Don't worry about trimet. I can give you a ride
|
||
532 on 'mon voiture'. I used to ride the bus too, and I know what a hassle it can
|
||
533 be. Anyway, on Saturday I can come much earlier too. (Even though I found
|
||
534 out I don't have to work the 24th or 25th.) I am willing to compromise too.
|
||
535 Whenever is best for you is OK with me. D'accord?
|
||
536 a bien tot
|
||
537 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Luke ||||||||||||||||||||||
|
||
538 To Mikey: I realize you have probably been exposed(in your Air force days) to
|
||
539 alot of this, and you may know more about nuclear arms then most too, but what
|
||
540 makes you say the world will not be made almost totally inhabitable. After
|
||
541 reading reports, including Carl Sagen's article in a recent Parade, which was
|
||
542 collaberated by many scientists, and even then was considered an underestimate,
|
||
543 I don't see how our little hitching post in the galaxy could possibly survive.
|
||
544 The devastating effects of a nuclear war haven't even been totally figured
|
||
545 out yet. Melting of polar ice caps, disruption of all communications, and
|
||
546 I am not even talking about such things as presented in that classic movie
|
||
547 'Damnation Alley'(sorry, couldn't resist). If you would care to continue this
|
||
548 discussion, could you present some of your reasoning behind your statements.
|
||
549 (this is not a challange, I am truly interested in hearing all sides)
|
||
550 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Luke - again |||||||||||||||||
|
||
551 ----------------------------------------
|
||
552 "MANY IDEAS GROW BETTER WHEN TRANSPLANTED INTO ANOTHER MIND THAN THAN IN THE ONE WHERE THEY SPRING UP."
|
||
553
|
||
554 -OLIVER WENDAELL HOLMES
|
||
555
|
||
556 ----------------------------------------
|
||
557
|
||
558 "I THINK THE MOST OPTIMISTIC THING IS THSTAT WE ARE STILL HERE! WE HAVE ATTAINED THE CAPACITY TO DESTROY THE PLANET
|
||
559 AND HAVEN'T DONE IT. THE LONGER WE DON'T DO IT, THE BETTER CHANCE WE HAVE."
|
||
560
|
||
561 -MARGARET MEAD
|
||
562
|
||
563
|
||
564 ----------------------------------------
|
||
565
|
||
566 "ONE GALILEO IN TWO THOUSAND YEARS IS ENOUGH"
|
||
567
|
||
568 -POPE PIUS XII
|
||
569
|
||
570
|
||
571 HELP !!! I am a seventh grade health sciences teacher who needs your help in putting together a class project. My kids
|
||
572 ill be building a biology model that will require a part I don't know where to buy. What I need is about four feet of two inch
|
||
573 clear plastic pipe that will represent the coiled tube of the
|
||
574 epididymis. If anyone knows where I can buy this material please let me know. THANKS. LeRoy McKane
|
||
575 HANG IT IN THERE, WISE GUY!!!!!!!!
|
||
576
|
||
577
|
||
578 ***********************************
|
||
579
|
||
580 LeRoy:
|
||
581
|
||
582 I think you can get that kind of pipe either at Fred Meyers or Handymans. Good Luck with you project.
|
||
583
|
||
584
|
||
585 ***********************************
|
||
586
|
||
587 *****
|
||
588 Another user in favor of the lovebirds staying on this system! What is a free
|
||
589 form BBS for anyway? Think about it. If other people are bothered by the little love notes back and forth, then this
|
||
590 must not be the system for them. Cheers and`keep luvin' ZEP
|
||
591 *****
|
||
592
|
||
593 And for Chris Burns, this system doesn't have any sort of order to it, it is just a free form bbs which you can only list and
|
||
594 add to the lines which are already there. Have fun, ZEP (Metzger Bill)
|
||
595 *****
|
||
596 *****
|
||
597 !?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!
|
||
598 Well, I see things have changed quite a bit in my abscense, and I perceive
|
||
599 that the BWS can have quite an illusive personality! Is a new subject being
|
||
600 looked for perhaps? Or have all been exhausted?
|
||
601 Does anyone out there have any opinions or ideas about the possibility of
|
||
602 one world government being a successful way to ward off a nuclear confront-
|
||
603 ation?
|
||
604 Any bites?
|
||
605
|
||
606 !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?DEBORAH!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!
|
||
607
|
||
608
|
||
609 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
|
||
610
|
||
611 DEBORAH, A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT WOULD INDEED PREVENT A NUCLEAR CON-
|
||
612 FRONTATION FROM OCCURRING BETWEEN GOVERNMENTS (AS THERE WOULD ONLY BE
|
||
613 ONE), BUT WHO IS TO SAY THAT THE ONE GOVERNMENT MIGHT NOT BE SO CRUEL
|
||
614 AS TO USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS AS A MEANS OF KEEPING THE VARIOUS MINOR STATES
|
||
615 IT RULES IN LINE? UNLESS THE HUMAN RACE UNDERGOES A MASSIVE PERSONALITY
|
||
616 CHANGE AND ACHIEVES SOME LEVEL OF MATURITY, I CAN'T SEE A ONE WORLD
|
||
617 GOVERNMENT BEING ANYTHING BUT A FRUIT RIPE FOR DECAY. SOMETHING MUST BE
|
||
618 ADDED TO MAKE IT CONTINUE TO BE VIABLE AND STRONG (A CHALLENGE PERHAPS?)
|
||
619 OR IT WILL FAIL. AND THE PROBLEMS OF STARVATION AND NEED MUST BE MET,
|
||
620 OR THE PEOPLE WILL SOON RISE UP (AS THEY ALWAYS SEEM TO DO) AND ATTEMPT
|
||
621 TO REPLACE THE GOVERNMENT. WITH THE TOTAL LACK OF MATURITY THAT THE
|
||
622 HUMAN RACE SHOWS, I'M AFRAID THAT THE ONLY WAY IT WILL OCCUR IS BY FORCE
|
||
623 FROM A GREATER POWER, EITHER AS IN THE BIBLE BY THE SECOND ADVENT OF
|
||
624 CHRIST, OR IN THE MANNER OF "THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL" (A CLASSIC
|
||
625 S.F. MOVIE THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, SHOWS IT'S AGE) OR "CHILDHOOD'S END" BY
|
||
626 ARTHUR C. CLARKE. OOPS, LOOKS LIKE I'M OUT OF ROOM. MADE IT TO THE
|
||
627 BOTTOM AGAIN!! (THANK YOU FOR THE PHRASE, AARON!).
|
||
628
|
||
629 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]PAM![][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
|
||
|
||
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