630 lines
35 KiB
Plaintext
630 lines
35 KiB
Plaintext
LI
|
||
FILE ON
|
||
MARGIN IS 79
|
||
STATUS: ALL ALLOWED
|
||
NUMBER OF LINES: 629
|
||
1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
|
||
2 ****************** REMOVED: 2 SEP 83 *******************************
|
||
3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
|
||
4 ************************************************************
|
||
5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION PLACED ON
|
||
6 THIS SYSTEM.
|
||
7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privatly owned
|
||
8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
|
||
9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system.
|
||
10 It is intended that the system be normally used for messages and
|
||
11 advertisments by the users. As the system is privatly owned, I retain the
|
||
12 right to remove any and all messages which I may find offensive
|
||
13 to me. Additionally because of the limited size of the system, it will be
|
||
14 periodically purged of older messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
|
||
15 The saved information will be cycled to drive 'B' while the information on
|
||
16 drive 'B' will be archived, and a fresh disk will be installed in drive 'A'.
|
||
17 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out
|
||
18 of the enter mode. The message is automaticly stored.
|
||
19 If after entering the message you find you made a mistake,
|
||
20 use the replace command to replace the line.
|
||
21 To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
|
||
22 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
|
||
23 ========================================
|
||
24
|
||
25 Well whaddya know... I finally made it to the top! You guys
|
||
26 get with it!
|
||
27
|
||
28 TRON
|
||
29 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
|
||
30 - Pioneer, Must I remind you that the border you refer to as -
|
||
31 - yours, is mine. You asked me if you could use it and that -
|
||
32 - only. This is my border and I intend to keep it. In other -
|
||
33 - words, it's not your border. -
|
||
34 - TRON -
|
||
35 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
|
||
36 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
|
||
37 well,thats how it always starts,first border disputes,then
|
||
38 UN sactions,the military action.......oh well.................Aa
|
||
39 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
|
||
40 "This method results from the fact that the father is solely
|
||
41 responsible for both the existence and actions of his sons."
|
||
42
|
||
43 from MPE Intrinsics Reference Manual,for the HP 3000
|
||
44 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
||
45
|
||
46 aaron
|
||
47 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
|
||
48 oops,might get sysm intrested in some manuals he hasn't seen yet......
|
||
49 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
|
||
50 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
51 To Arthur Dent..I finally figured out Earth..Please reply by Sub-Etha radio...
|
||
52 Ford Prefect
|
||
53 ----------------------------------------------------------
|
||
54 TO ALL OSU BEAVER FANS....GO DUCKS, GO GO GO !!!!!!!!!!!!
|
||
55 THIS MESSAGE BROUGHT TO YOU COURTESY OF THE ELUSIVE DUCK FAN...QUACK QUACK
|
||
56 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
57 #########################################################
|
||
58 As I sit here in my lonely room I try to ponder what went
|
||
59 wrong for the one I loved has turned and gone. The darkness
|
||
60 decends upon me once more, for the one I loved has gone.
|
||
61 I sit here and cry in my lonely room wishing for that which
|
||
62 might have been, for the one I loved has turned and gone.
|
||
63 The venome of the last goodbye still courses my veins yet
|
||
64 still as I cry the love continues on even though the one I
|
||
65 loved has gone. Why must I live in such agony for one who
|
||
66 cares not for my love? Why do I cry? Yet even in the hurt and
|
||
67 confusion there remains yet still love for one who has gone.
|
||
68 My heart in one cruel stroke was swept from my breast and left
|
||
69 laying at my feet in shattered remains, oh one I loved why
|
||
70 have you gone? Though the darkness has come and my life is
|
||
71 gone, I find that there is love still for the one who is gone.
|
||
72 Will I rise from the ashes to live once again? Will I ever be
|
||
73 able to love again? Will I ever find one I can love again?
|
||
74 Broken Heart
|
||
75 ##########################################################
|
||
76
|
||
77 (The previous was a paid advertisement for NBC's new soap opera,
|
||
78 "As the Stomach Turns.")
|
||
79 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|
||
80 <><><><><><> tune in once again for the continuing saga of..........Aa
|
||
81 ===================================================================
|
||
82 To Elbrich: As much as I dislike giving any credit to that little
|
||
83 lizard, I must agree with you.
|
||
84 =======Max Grody===================================================
|
||
85
|
||
86 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|
||
87 TO JOEDUCK - AMID THE DUST OF THE 168 ANOTHER BBS FAN IS BORN!
|
||
88 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|
||
89
|
||
90 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
|
||
91 cml? are you out here? lets try to get our respective females
|
||
92 together for a night of wild yet otherwise respectable entertainment......
|
||
93
|
||
94 (bet my respective female is smarter than yours! (has 2 years of E.Lit
|
||
95 up here belt!))
|
||
96 Aaron
|
||
97 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
|
||
98 sorry about using BW,c,but default mode kept giving me
|
||
99 DISK FULL!
|
||
100 Aa
|
||
101 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
|
||
102 broken heart: i know just the girl you ought to meet.....
|
||
103 (yes,sysm,the same...see if you handle your d-problems
|
||
104 with this kind of creativity!...and flair!)
|
||
105 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
|
||
106 broken heart (again): I assumed you were male,my apologies if
|
||
107 I was incorrect........aa
|
||
108 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
|
||
109 _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
|
||
110 | We seem to have entered the period of time between hot discussion. I will |
|
||
111 | wait................................................................Pioneer |
|
||
112 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
|
||
113 If I could understand the above 15 messages, I'd be psychic.....
|
||
114 -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:
|
||
115 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
|
||
116 @@ Computer phreak; wishes to meet phreakess; object: phreakettes. @@
|
||
117 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
|
||
118 PERSONALLY, I THINK THE GUY ABOVE IS 'PHREAKED' OUT.....
|
||
119 .+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+. THE INSANE SCIENTIST .+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.
|
||
120 #=#-#=#-#=#-#=#-#=#-#=#-#=#-#=#-#=#-#=#-#=#-#=#-#=#-#=#-#=#-#=#-#=#-#=#-#=#-
|
||
121 I do understand the messages, and yes, I am psychic... the Phantom Glitch
|
||
122 /#///#///#///#///#///#///#///#///#//
|
||
123 Well, I for one am not psychic and I don't want to understand the above msgs.
|
||
124 "'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'
|
||
125 So far, the boarders have more flash then the words they are deliniating.
|
||
126 <>+#&%([{]}^~)!",.?/;@\|`_: CISTOP MIKEY -=!"#$%&'()*={}:-]^~\|@`;+/?.>,<_
|
||
127 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
|
||
128 BAD: suggest you check solder-bonding on male db25 on your 113,mine
|
||
129 was of ext. low quality,a quick touch with an iron on all GREATLY
|
||
130 reduced my reliability problems with the unit......Aaron
|
||
131 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
|
||
132 _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
|
||
133 - Way to tell'em Mikey................................................Pioneer -
|
||
134 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
|
||
135 -----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
136
|
||
137 We are interested in setting up a computerized accounting
|
||
138 package. We have a racquetball club and mail-order business both
|
||
139 of which seem to have developed growing pains.
|
||
140
|
||
141 At this time we have a small H-89 Heath/Zenith computer with 64K
|
||
142 of RAM and two five and a quarter inch disk drives. We also have
|
||
143 a small Epson MX-80 printer. We use Wordstar, Data Star,
|
||
144 Supersort and perhaps a couple of other software programs which
|
||
145 my son has not told me about yet.
|
||
146
|
||
147 We are in the process of choosing a computer which will help us
|
||
148 in our accounting tasks. We want to use a "point-of-sales"
|
||
149 terminal or cash register at the front desk. In other words if we
|
||
150 sell a can of balls, we want that can of balls deleted from the
|
||
151 inventory, the sale posted, etc... We want to be able to check in
|
||
152 members by name (or by member number if necessary) and see if
|
||
153 each person has a current account. We want the computer to do
|
||
154 financial statements taking into consideration all the data that
|
||
155 will have been fed into it. I think that we will need about ten
|
||
156 megabytes of storage in the beginning as we seem to be growing
|
||
157 fairly fast. We also want to be able to do word processing,
|
||
158 point of sales and perhaps one other task at the same time. We
|
||
159 see the need for two printers and four terminals with perhaps
|
||
160 three users cranking away at once.
|
||
161
|
||
162 We tend to think that it would be more economical for us to stick
|
||
163 with the CP/M software that we have now and especially since we
|
||
164 have substantial data already on disks. For example, we really
|
||
165 do not want to type in several thousand names and addresses
|
||
166 again. Nor do we want to retype about 75 tedious documents again.
|
||
167
|
||
168 In any case we are writing this note to see if you have any
|
||
169 interest in a partial or total trade for a company membership at
|
||
170 our plushy club in the N.E. Gateway area. Enclosed is some
|
||
171 material describing our club. It may be that your company can
|
||
172 help us with the expense of the accounting package while we may
|
||
173 be able to give you and your employees a very nice club in which
|
||
174 to get in shape and enjoy yourselves. You may even want to help
|
||
175 us with our hardware needs if you happen to like our club enough.
|
||
176 However, we have begun to zero in on some equipment already, and
|
||
177 it would be necessary that you move quickly in that area.
|
||
178
|
||
179 If you have any interest in such a proposition, please give me a
|
||
180 call or drop me a note. Our club is open seven days a week and
|
||
181 since I live across the street, you can drop by anytime.
|
||
182
|
||
183 Bill Flowers, Owner/Manager
|
||
184
|
||
185 Portland, Oregon 97220
|
||
186 (503) 254-xxxx
|
||
187
|
||
188 -----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
189 (This bulletin board was not the intended recipient of this letter
|
||
190 so please ignore the "Enclosed is information about our club" state-
|
||
191 ment. Call the above number if you do want information and ask for
|
||
192 Bill Flowers.)
|
||
193 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
194 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
|
||
195 BACKWATER MESSAGE SYSTEM
|
||
196 GENERAL STAFF HQ
|
||
197 oregon
|
||
198
|
||
199
|
||
200
|
||
201 memorandum to: All Backwater Users
|
||
202 from: Aaron Eastlund
|
||
203 date: 28 August 1983
|
||
204 subject: BW Security Docket #000001
|
||
205 enclosure: one (1) copy of subject docket
|
||
206
|
||
207
|
||
208 1. Pursuant to yourinquiry we are enclosing one (1) copy of subject
|
||
209 docket without restrictions. The security classification has been
|
||
210 removed, and there is no longer any official interest in the matter.
|
||
211
|
||
212
|
||
213
|
||
214 2. The printed 'message' was: "ALERT.....ALERT.....COURT CLUB
|
||
215 FLEET HEADQUARTERS MASTER LIBRARY COMPUTER.....TO.....LIBRARY COMPUTER
|
||
216 .....ALL FEDERATION INNS ON SPECIAL SERVICE.....STARTDATE 3113.....
|
||
217 SUBJECT.....TRANSMISSION OF UPDATED TECHNICAL REQUESTS
|
||
218 .....00:00:00......................................00:00:01
|
||
219 .....BEGIN TRANSMISSION....."
|
||
220
|
||
221
|
||
222 3. The message and the 'data sheets' which followed were found in the
|
||
223 memory banks of the master computer at Backwater Control,Oregon ???,
|
||
224 and were accidentally discovered in 1983 during a print-out run,while the
|
||
225 computer was being interrogated for another reason. A top security lid
|
||
226 was immediatly clamped on the matter while an investigation was launched
|
||
227 to attempt to identify the source of the unusal transmission. Neither
|
||
228 the message nor the data could be traced to any known country, or alliance,
|
||
229 in the World. All of the terminology, uniforms, weaponry, and other
|
||
230 material was completely foreign to the terminology, uniforms, racquetball,
|
||
231 and other material known to be in existence at that time.
|
||
232
|
||
233
|
||
234 4. The investigation was terminated with a final determination that the
|
||
235 whole affair had been a hoax. That the 'unusual' material had been
|
||
236 inserted into the computer as a prank. And the file was closed, while a
|
||
237 search was initiated to find the person, or persons, responsible for this
|
||
238 breach of Backwater Control. To date this effort has been fruitless.
|
||
239 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
|
||
240
|
||
241 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
|
||
242 @@ Computer phreak; wishes to meet phreakess; object: phreakettes. @@
|
||
243 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
|
||
244 BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED
|
||
245 BORED Things are so boring around here today! I am soooooo BORED
|
||
246 BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED
|
||
247 I think we have a 'BORE'der line case here..
|
||
248 *** CISTOP MIKEY (STILL WONDERING HOW TO CLEAN ROTTEN TOMATOES OFF A DISK) ***
|
||
249 ******************************************************************************
|
||
250 to:CISTOP MIKEY
|
||
251 SJ:tomatoes
|
||
252
|
||
253 Try using skunk smell solution from a REAL skunk!!! That should
|
||
254 get rid of the tomato smell. As for any debris....just put into
|
||
255 a tossed salad (cucumber, radishes, carrots...) and add your
|
||
256 favnrite dressing....as for the disk....put it in the salad too.
|
||
257 it might not be too bad!!
|
||
258
|
||
259 Signed,
|
||
260 Computerized Gourmet
|
||
261 -----------------------------------------------------------
|
||
262 I tasted a disk before. It tastes realy yucky. People don't
|
||
263 mind having a BYTE to eat, or even a little BIT but I think
|
||
264 floppy disks taste real yucko barf puke throw up vomit upchuck
|
||
265 and all the other yucky words you can find in the dictionary.
|
||
266 If you have braces, that's another story. You get hashed train
|
||
267 tracks from all the magnetic debris and a de-magnetized disk.
|
||
268 If you are a Star Trek (Not Track, Pioneer), you can get all
|
||
269 of your sectors blown away. Wasn't the above Phunny?
|
||
270
|
||
271 TRON
|
||
272 With stale donuts in my braces... YUCK!
|
||
273 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_: HA HA Pioneer! :_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
|
||
274 That guy from the tennis club had an interesting proposition. Well,
|
||
275 all I can say is that to ask for the kind of help he asked for really takes
|
||
276 a lot of ............. BALLS.
|
||
277
|
||
278 Please excuse me. I wasn't wide awake when I typed that.
|
||
279 -------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
280 Personally, I like to NIBBLE on silicon chips myself.......
|
||
281 **** CISTOP MIKEY **** Watch where you throw that cabbage ***************
|
||
282 ~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
||
283
|
||
284
|
||
285
|
||
286 Aaron: MPE intrinsict manual??? You NEVER know......!
|
||
287
|
||
288 The Sysm...(of course!)
|
||
289
|
||
290 P.S. Did you use the whole bottle of syrup on her??
|
||
291
|
||
292 *********************???????????????????*********************???????????????????
|
||
293 Why waste syrup on anyone? I like to eat it.
|
||
294
|
||
295 TRON
|
||
296 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_:HA Ha Pioneer:_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
|
||
297
|
||
298 TRON.....................................................................
|
||
299 THEY PROBABLY DID !>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
|
||
300 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
|
||
301 To all Backwater users
|
||
302 I am extremely interested in the field of using computers as an aid to
|
||
303 handicapped individuals/ I am wondering if one of you talkative chaps might as
|
||
304 assist me in obtaining more information on the subject. I am directly referri
|
||
305 ng to the case of Nan Davis from Wright State University in Dayton Ohio.
|
||
306 Would be much appreciated...
|
||
307
|
||
308
|
||
309 Charlotte
|
||
310
|
||
311 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
|
||
312
|
||
313
|
||
314 TO: Bob FROM: Art
|
||
315
|
||
316 Brevity: hi
|
||
317 }[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
|
||
318 IT STRIKES ME THAT THIS DISK IS GETTING OFF TO AN AMAZINGLY SLOW START. ARE WE OUT OF SUBJECTS? HOW ABOUT THIS:
|
||
319 THE UPCOMING BREAKUP OF A.T.&T WILL MEAN A DRASTIC INCREASE IN THE COST OF BASIC SERVICE, AND MAY BRING THE END OF BBS
|
||
320 SUCH AS THIS ONE. AFTER ALL, THIS BOARD IS FREE TO THE USERS, AND ALL OF THE COST IS ABSORBED BY THE SYSOP. USUALLY
|
||
321 THIS IS NO PROBLEM, BUT IF A SYSOP HAD TO PAY GREAT AMOUNTS OF MONEY JUST TO STAY OPEN, HOW MANY WOULD? AN ALREADY
|
||
322 EXPENSIVE HOBBY MIGHT BECOME TOO MUCH SO AND THE BOARD WOULD BITE THE DUST. ANY OF YOU HAVE A SOLUTION (OR A COMMENT)?
|
||
323
|
||
324 BY THE WAY, MIKEY, WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THIS? ITS YOUR BALL AND YOUR YARD, YOU JUST LET US PLAY HERE.
|
||
325
|
||
326
|
||
327 [][][][][][][][][][][][][]PAM.[][][][][]
|
||
328
|
||
329 Mikey: I was trying to use a string of " as a border. I got BOMBED
|
||
330 off the system, WHY?
|
||
331 ###########################################################
|
||
332 Milady, it is traditional for apprentices to be fearful of our
|
||
333 masters. And who am I, a lowly apprentice, to fly in the face
|
||
334 of tradition?
|
||
335 In truth, I was once apprenticed to a craftsman; but now I use
|
||
336 that title as I feel it befits my realization that there is
|
||
337 ALWAYS more to learn!
|
||
338 ........................the apprentice......................
|
||
339 ---------------------------------------------
|
||
340 Pam:
|
||
341
|
||
342 What you will most likely see as far as a rise in telephone rates
|
||
343 will be the introduction of metered
|
||
344 service. Under this scheme you will pay for time and distance just like you do for long distance calls. The rates will not
|
||
345 be as high, but the charges will definitally increase the amount you pay monthly. PNB's justification is that as a government
|
||
346 approved monoply they were able to funnel money from long distance
|
||
347 charges to support local calls which, according to them, has always
|
||
348 been a loser for them.
|
||
349
|
||
350 Paul
|
||
351
|
||
352
|
||
353 ------------------------------------------------
|
||
354
|
||
357 e 'data' call is about 30 minutes, while the average 'voice' call lasts about 11 minutes. What does this mean for the phone
|
||
358 company? Way back in the good old days, when modems were few and far between, practically everyone used the telephone for
|
||
359 the uses God meant it for. In other words, gabbing away at each other. Everyone used their average 11 minutes, and
|
||
360 contentedly hung up. Fine. And just about everyone used the phone the same
|
||
361 amount, too. So it didn't pay to charge customers by the minute, in most cases, since that would be more complex. Phone Co.
|
||
362 didn't care, since everyone was (on the average) paying for their use.
|
||
364 times as much as we used to. To handle this, Phone Co. needs to upgrade the
|
||
367 the phone.
|
||
368 They take the only way out, trying to charge modem-users. Well, I can sympathise with them, but do not agree with them.
|
||
369 It is true that we are getting what some might call a free ride, but we're merely playing the game by Phone Co.'s rules.
|
||
370
|
||
371 They can have my modem when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.
|
||
372 #########555-1212....Buzz....Buzz.....'Take this phone and shove it...'..click#########
|
||
373
|
||
374 TO: Person having problem with the " :
|
||
375 BWMS does not care about the quote mark, nothing in the way of a character
|
||
376 string you can send it will bomb it off the line. Several things can
|
||
377 cause BWMS to hangup on you. First is if you drop carrier this is the
|
||
378 normal hangup procedure for BWMS. Alternatly, if I lose power here
|
||
379 momentarily (1/4 sec or longer) it will knock BWMS off line. If you have
|
||
380 been on longer then 10 minutes without doing anything BWMS will timeout
|
||
381 and drop you. And of course there is always the good old Ma Bell deciding
|
||
382 to take a dislike to you and kicking you off herself for some reason.
|
||
383 ****** CISTOP MIKEY ******** 29 AUG 83 *******************************:
|
||
384 TO: PAM
|
||
385 An excelent question asked indeed of a source of concern, for as you say
|
||
386 without my support BWMS would be no more. (Unless of course some other
|
||
387 crazy fool takes up the challange.) It really would depend upon the end
|
||
388 result of what they wish to do. If they were to raise the rate of the BWMS
|
||
389 line to $50 I would be forced to drop the line, and thus would go BWMS.
|
||
390 As much as you all enjoy the system out there, I can't imagine you to be
|
||
391 able to come up with $50 each and every month just to keep BWMS alive.
|
||
392 In fact, the cost is currently marginal to maintain BWMS as it is. I still
|
||
393 have one option open, if they were to raise the cost I would switch to mettered
|
||
394 service on the line. (I don't have it now since I use it for my outgoing
|
||
395 data calls to keep my voice line open, but I would forgo that to keep from
|
||
396 paying even more.) Next, if Ma raises my rates much more, she will lose in the
|
||
397 end because I would first drop my custom calling package on my voice line.
|
||
398 and if she becomes nasty about it I'll switched to mettered service, I
|
||
399 don't use it that much anyway. Right now, I am paying about $40 a month
|
||
400 for the two lines. My trip point is $50 when the line costs go over $50
|
||
401 I will start removing services until it drops below that amount, and I will
|
||
402 continue to do so when ever she raises the rates. In order of removal:
|
||
403 1. Switch to metered service on BWMS. 2. Drop custom calling on voice.
|
||
404 3. Drop BWMS 4. Switch to metered service on voice. 5. Drop voice line.
|
||
405 Yes, I would actually drop my voice line. It may be nice, but I do not feel
|
||
406 it is worth $50 a month. I don't pay that much for electricity for heavens
|
||
407 sake, and I'm all electric here! (I pay between $30 and $40) One point of
|
||
408 note, I have a feeling that if MA isn't very careful, she may find herself
|
||
409 with local compitition as well. It has happened in other things (Like
|
||
410 competing power companies) and with outragous rates she will be begging
|
||
411 the compitition to come in. Also there is a bill currently in congress
|
||
412 to limit the amount that can be charged for local service. What will happen
|
||
413 with this is hard to say, but it will probably come to pass long before
|
||
414 Ma tries to turn the thumb screws too tight, as there are many out there
|
||
415 whos only connection with the outside world is the phone, and that is
|
||
416 a cause that is custom made for a politicain to carry. In a way it is
|
||
417 a shame that the charge by amount of time spent was not implimented long
|
||
418 ago but it is bound to happen sooner or later, the phone service is one of
|
||
419 the few businesses that work that way. I don't want to pay an outragous
|
||
420 amount for my phone either, but I also recognize that if I am on it longer
|
||
421 then I am using their service more, and therfore rightfully should pay
|
||
422 for that increased service, but it has to be reasonable, and as I have
|
||
423 indicated, they are apraoching my 'reasonableness' point rapidly. I do
|
||
424 not feel that I should have to pay more for a modem on the line. Yes, I
|
||
425 may use it a little longer then the norm because of this, but I feel
|
||
426 that should come as a metered charge, not a flat rate. As far as the
|
||
427 phone lines are concerned there is no difference between a modem and
|
||
428 voice, and I don't see the humor in being discriminated agianst just
|
||
429 because I use a modem. Whew, I guess I better stop and let someone else
|
||
430 use this thing now before MA raises the rates again and I'll have to shut
|
||
431 ol' BWMS done and then all this would have been pointless since noone
|
||
432 would be able to see it.
|
||
433 ***** A DEPRESSED CISTOP MIKEY ******* 29 AUG 83 *******************:
|
||
434 P.S. did you just happen across ? or did you activly look around?
|
||
435 Just curious, you seem to be more familur with the system then most.
|
||
436 ***********************************************************************
|
||
437 To Charlotte: You have come to the right place --
|
||
438 Almost everyone here is handicaped!
|
||
439 ////////Max Grody//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
|
||
440 To Max Grody; Thanks for your enlightened comment...However I think I will hold out for another response which I hope will be
|
||
441 more useful to me.
|
||
442
|
||
443 Charlotte
|
||
444
|
||
445 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
|
||
446
|
||
447 Charlotte, pardon poor Max. However, we're all a little wierd around here,
|
||
448 to tell the truth. Most of us have been for years, and will continue to be
|
||
449 for years. Unfortunately, I can't help you, but I seem to recall Byte
|
||
450 magazine having something on that subject awhile ago. Help me out on this,
|
||
451 readers. Year and month, Byte readers, if you please... Am I just imagining it?
|
||
452 )()()(()()()(()()(()()()()(()(()()(()()()()()()()()()(()()()()()()()
|
||
453 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
|
||
454 WELL, MIKEY, THE REASON I HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF FAMILIARITY WITH THE SYSTEM IS BECAUSE I FIRST USED THE SYSTEM A
|
||
455 FEW MONTHS BEFORE I PURCHASED A COMPUTER (READING ONLY) AND WATCHED SOME OF THE UNUSUAL THINGS THAT HAPPENED. I CON-
|
||
456 CLUDED THAT MANY THINGS COULD BE DONE THAT WERE'NT MENTIONED IN "HELP". WHEN I PURCHASED A MACHINE ALL MY OWN, I
|
||
457 PURCHASED A TERMINAL PROGRAM THAT WOULD LET ME DISPLAY CONTROL CHARACTERS RATHER THAN PERFORMING THEIR FUNCTION. I THEN
|
||
458 COULD SEE THOSE LITTLE DEVILS, AND FIND OUT WHICH CHARACTERS DID WHAT.
|
||
459 AS FAR AS MA GOES, SHE PURPOSELY KEPT BASIC SERVICE RATES LOW FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT THE MORE PEOPLE THAT
|
||
460 HAD SERVICE, THE GREATER THE CHANCE THAT THEY WOULD MAKE LONG DISTANCE CALLS. SINCE THAT IS WHERE THE MEAT OF HER
|
||
461 PROFIT IS, IT WAS ONLY GOOD BUSINESS TO DO SO. I HOPE THAT WHEN THINGS CHANGE, WE DON'T SEE A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS
|
||
462 DROPPING THEIR SERVICE, BECAUSE THE BASE FOR THE LONG DISTANCE WOULD BEGIN TO DISSAPEAR. OH WELL.......
|
||
463
|
||
464 [][][][][][][][][][][][]PAM.[][][][][][]
|
||
465 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
|
||
466 aww,c'mon.....ya mean that NO ONE caught
|
||
467 that first page out of the STAR FLEET TECH MAN????
|
||
468 get with it,people!
|
||
469 aaron
|
||
470
|
||
471 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
|
||
472 is this centered on most screens?
|
||
473 Aaron
|
||
474 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
|
||
475 I NEVER DO AND NEVER WILL DO IS REGISTER MY MODEM TO THE PHONE
|
||
476 COMPANY. THEY'LL JUST CHARGE ME MORE TO USE IT. WHY WOULD THEY
|
||
477 CARE IF WE TALKED VOICE OR TALKED MODEM? WE ARE STILL USING
|
||
478 THE LINE IN THE SAME FASHION. I WISH AT&T COULD BECOME ONE AGAAIN
|
||
479 .......SIGH.....
|
||
480
|
||
481 TRON
|
||
482 Supposedly, those people are being charged "because we must provide
|
||
483 a data quality line" (so says SW Bell). What if I'm willing
|
||
484 to settle for VOICE quality?
|
||
485 Mikey, about the " problem-- I tried 3 times & EVERY TIME
|
||
486 the system dumped me about quote # 20. I lost msgs the first 2
|
||
487
|
||
488 times, the 3rd time I was at the > prompt. Please note:
|
||
489 I was using my keyboard's auto-repeat to send the quotes. Thus
|
||
490 you were getting a CONTINOUS string of them. Maybe this has something
|
||
491 to do with it? I'll leave "enter" mode & try it again. If there
|
||
492 ISN'T a ps to this then it will have bombed me AGAIN!
|
||
493 ________________________Leonard______________________________
|
||
494 Leonard: Did it just knock you out of enter mode? or did it
|
||
495 actually hangup on you? I had inferred that it hungup on you.
|
||
496 what can happen with auto repeat is that if you have a weak
|
||
497 phone line, the next character you transmit can colide with
|
||
498 the previous one and thus destroying it in the process this
|
||
499 often generates a break signal which will pop you out of enter
|
||
500 mode (as well as the control c). The only other thing I can
|
||
501 think of is that maybe you are dropping me, by this, I mean
|
||
502 that I you receive a break as a result of the previous stated
|
||
503 possible problem, then you maybe hanging up upon receiving it.
|
||
504 Some terminals and terminal software and or modems will operate
|
||
505 like that which can be a real pain on noisy lines where it is
|
||
506 common to have that happen.
|
||
507 Was this any more help?
|
||
508 ******* CISTOP MIKEY ********** 30 AUG 83 *********************
|
||
509 HI THERE
|
||
510 I AM NEW TO BWMS
|
||
511 AND I AM KNOWN AS
|
||
512 XENON
|
||
513
|
||
514
|
||
515
|
||
516
|
||
517 )))))))))))>>>>>>>>======----SUB-ETHA
|
||
518 CHANNEL #456172611 TO FORD PREFECT<<<
|
||
519
|
||
520 NOW THAT IS AMAZING. I'VE LIVED ON EARTHFOR THIRTY YEARS AND EVEN I
|
||
521 HAVENT FIGURED IT OUT (AND I HAVE A CRAY 2!). TELL ME, HOW DID YOU DO T?
|
||
522
|
||
523 DO YOU HAVE A DEEP THOUGHT II UP YOUR
|
||
524 SLEEVE OR SOMETHING?
|
||
525
|
||
526 PLEASE REPLY BY CHANNEL #1237198127387
|
||
527
|
||
528
|
||
529 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>END XMIT<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
|
||
530
|
||
531 ^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!
|
||
532 WELCOME, XENON!
|
||
533 BY THE WAY, HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO WRITEA BOOK CALLED
|
||
534 "ONE HUNDRED AND ONE WAYS TO SPELL XENON?"
|
||
535
|
||
536 HERE ARE A FEW.
|
||
537
|
||
538 ZENON
|
||
539 ZEENAWN
|
||
540 ZENON
|
||
541 XKENON
|
||
542 !V!V!V!V!V!V!V!PROFESSOR FALKEN!V!V!V!V!
|
||
543 TO: PROFESSOR FALKIN
|
||
544
|
||
545 I HAVE NEVER WROTE A BOOK
|
||
546 BUT MY WAY IS SPELLED
|
||
547 XENON
|
||
548
|
||
549 LIKE IN THE LASER.
|
||
550 (YA KNOW)...
|
||
551 /Z/ XENON /Z/
|
||
552
|
||
553 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
||
554 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
||
555 The quotes work for me!
|
||
556 Aaron...
|
||
557
|
||
558 I recognized the Star Trek Technical Manual rip-off, but chose to ignore it.
|
||
559 And yes it was centered. ---The Doctor
|
||
560 3.1415926535897923256684105212607154840084168816846577491650906090609616506165
|
||
561 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
562 GO DUCKS
|
||
563
|
||
564 ..........................................
|
||
565 W/ 47% SYNAPSES FUNCTIONING... HUMANOID W/ COMMUNICATION CAPABILITIES (VERBAL) SEEKING CONTACT WITH TERRESTRIALS FOR
|
||
566 INTERACTIVE EXPERIENCES. PEACE. ---ZZM
|
||
567 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
|
||
568 - To someone above.... You entered PI wrong! only about the -
|
||
569 - first 16 digits were correct. It doesn't go 232... it goes -
|
||
570 - 213. So, go back to school until you learn it out to the 30 -
|
||
571 - 'th place! Just kidding around....
|
||
572 - TRON -
|
||
573 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
|
||
574 ------------------------------------------------
|
||
575 Mikey:
|
||
576 I believe I saw you make referance earlier to a "data quality line", and I sincerely hope that you'll go back and read the
|
||
577 telephone co.s tariffs dealing with this subject. As far as the Telco's concerned the only quality they will live up to is
|
||
578 miminal voice requirements on dial-up lines. Even leased lines are very shaky for transfer rates over 1200 BPS.
|
||
579 The only service that they will guarentee (sp) to any extent is their DDS service and even that is more in terms of a BLOCK
|
||
580 error every 1/2 second on a high speed data line. As for as the quarentee (sp) go, even that is subject to a tangle of finger
|
||
581 pointing if you were to press it. Believe I KNOW FROM WERE I SPEAK on this because I fight it every day.
|
||
582
|
||
583 Paul
|
||
584 -------------------------------------------------
|
||
585 DATE OF ENTRY: SEPTEMBER 2, 1983
|
||
586
|
||
587 HELLO!!!
|
||
588
|
||
589 MY NAME IS RODNEY KING. I JUST MOVED INTO
|
||
590 THE PORTLAND AREA FROM PENNSYLVANIA. I AM STAYING
|
||
591 AT THE ALADDIN MOTEL (RM. 326), PHONE NUMBER: 246-8241,
|
||
592 AND I WANT TO MAKE SOME FRIENDS WHILE I AM HERE.
|
||
593 I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG I AM STAYING, AS I AM THINKING
|
||
594 OF MOVING TO AUSTRALIA IN ABOUT A WEEK OR TWO. IF
|
||
595 I DO MOVE TO AUSTRALIA, I WILL WANT TO SELL MY FRANKLIN/ACE
|
||
596 1000, TWO DISK DRIVES, MICROMODEM II, AND USI 12" AMBER
|
||
597 MONITOR. IT IS REALLY A VERY NICE SYSTEM AND I WILL MISS
|
||
598 IT, BUT THE TRIP TO AUSTRALIA MAY BECOME NECESSARY FOR ME.
|
||
599 HERE IS WHAT I AM ASKING:
|
||
600 ACE 1000 (80 COL. CARD, ONE DD, SOFTWARE)
|
||
601 ................... 1300
|
||
602 SECOND DD 300
|
||
603 MICROMODEM II 270
|
||
604 USI MONITOR: A BEAUTY! 160
|
||
605
|
||
606 ASCII EXPRESS,VISIPLOT, LOCKSMITH,
|
||
607 FIRE ORGAN, VISITREND, GAMES,
|
||
608 ACECALC, ACEWRITER III 300
|
||
609
|
||
610 PLEASE CALL ME IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THE TOTAL SYSTEM
|
||
611 FOR $2100 (WHAT A DEAL!!!) OR IN
|
||
612 INDIVIDUAL PIECES. IF MY PRICES ARE
|
||
613 TOO HIGH, MAKE ME AN OFFER. ALL OF
|
||
614 THIS EQUIPMENT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY!!!
|
||
615
|
||
616 IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN JUST TALKING TO AN INTERESTING
|
||
617 PERSON FROM THE EAST COAST, GIVE ME A CALL ANYWAY. I WOULD
|
||
618 LOVE TO TALK WITH YOU. MY INTERESTS ARE BROAD AND INCLUDE
|
||
619 INTERNATIONAL POLITICS, THE PEACE MOVEMENT, "THE AQUARIAN CONSPIRACY,"
|
||
620 COMPUTERS, LOVE, HAM RADIO, AND SPACE MANUFACTURING!!!
|
||
621 DON'T BE SCARED OF ME. I REALLY DO WANT TO GET TO KNOW SOME
|
||
622 PEOPLE HERE IN OREGON AND I AM WILLING TO SELL MY COMPUTER IN
|
||
623 ABOUT A WEEK. PEACE, LOVE AND HARMONY! RODNEY
|
||
624
|
||
625 ********************************
|
||
626
|
||
627
|
||
628
|
||
629
|