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NUMBER OF LINES: 606
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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
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2 *********************** REMVOED: 26 JUN 83 **************************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION PLACED ON
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6 THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privatly owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system.
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10 It is intended that the system be normally used for messages and
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11 advertisments by the users. As the system is privatly owned, I retain the
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12 right to remove any and all messages which I may find offensive
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13 to me. Additionally because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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14 periodically purged of older messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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15 The saved information will be cycled to drive 'B' while the information on
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16 drive 'B' will be archived, and a fresh disk will be installed in drive 'A'.
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17 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out
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18 of the enter mode. The message is automaticly stored.
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19 If after entering the message you find you made a mistake,
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20 use the replace command to replace the line.
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21 To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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22 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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23 ========================================
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24
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25 A VIRGIN DISK! I CAN'T STAND IT. TAKE THAT. AND THAT!!!!
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26 Help! Did somebody move Neptune and Pluto ? I keep THINKING I hear
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27 Neptune labeled as the most distant of our solar system. Just when
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28 did they, and who is they, change things? Dave
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29 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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30 Neptune has been the farthest out planet for some time. Pluto has a very
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31 eccentric orbit, and for the next 30 or so years will be inside the
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32 orbit of Neptune. Pluto has, in fact, such a strange orbit, and is so
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33 small, that it is often believed to be an escaped moon of neptune (or
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34 something, who knows at 4.6 bilion miles.)
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35 It's cold out there! About 5K or so. (That K is 'Kelvin', or degrees above
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36 absolute zero, not 1024) BRRRR. Well, since this is summer, maybe a
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37 little warmer, maybe 6K. That's hot. Pant, pant.
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38 .................................................ouch................
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39 To fit in with the ongoing argument about what our language is, and means,
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40 please note that there is no such thing as "Kelvin degrees"; the correct
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41 term is "Kelvin" (only).
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42 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,B.A.D.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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43 I HOPE YOU ARE ALL AS GLAD AS I AM, THAT ITS FRIDAY.
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44 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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45 If those are the Neptunal facts, I thank you, ouch. I wonder if all of
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46 my 5th grade science learnin' is subject to other eccentricities! If this
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47 orbit had shown up way back when, would Mickey's dog have been Neptune?
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48 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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49 GOT SKIPPED TIL I FINALLY LOOKED AT THR SCREEN AND REALIZED THE
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50 DISK WAS FULL.WAS INTERESTED IN THE STATEMENTS MADE BY A FEW ABOUT
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51 CROSSING THEIR LEGS-THIS IS SOMETHING MANY PEOPLE DO AND I HAVEN`T
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52 EXPERIENCED TO MANY PROBLEMS WHEN IN THIS SPOT-I DON`T RELATE IT
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53 TO ANYTHING, BUT I CAN RELATE TO CRYING IN SITUATIONS THAT REALLY
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54 EFFECT ME AND I CRY SOMETIMES-I'VE SEEN IT BOTHER PEOPLE BUT ALL
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55 I CAN SAY IS THAT IT'S A HUMAN CONDITION TOO MANY WANT TO PUSH A
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56 SIDE-I'VE GROWN SO MUCH BY BEING HUMAN-ONE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MACHO
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57 TO FEEL AND REACT----IT'S HUMAN NATURE WITH NO HOLDS...............
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58 ***************************************************O.J.KID.********
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59 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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60 It is socially acceptable for man AND women to cross their legs, as
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61 long as it is done correctly. Women cross their legs by resting one knee
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62 on the other. (The inside of one knee touching the top of the other). Men
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63 cross their legs by resting the side of the shin on the other thigh.
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64 Although these are not as much hard-set rules as txey used be, many
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65 people still consider it offensively feminine for a man to cross his legs
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66 wrong. Txese are the same people who somehow relate how a woman crosses
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67 her legs with her sexual promiscuity.
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68 Even though people are getting more reasonable about allowing men to
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69 be human, crying is still a general no-no. It's almost never you'll see a
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70 "man" crying in public.
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71
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72
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73 I think the eccentricity of Pluto's orbit is about equal to the
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74 eccentricity of some of my friends.
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75 Actually, there was a serious scientific paper written on pluto that
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76 suggested it was an intergalactic transportation device left by a
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77 superior race (the Russians?)!
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78 The paper stood valid for over a decade, until someone finally(!) found
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79 it's fault!
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80 It seems the paper was based on the fact that mass readings of Pluto
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81 showed it being 55 times the weight of water. That's only possible if the
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82 thing was a neutron star or a blackhole.
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83 Note: the densest known material, osmium, is only 22 times the weight
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84 of water.
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85 Well, they later found that pluto had a moon, and THAT was where the e
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86 extra weight came from. Recent calculations of mass show pluto to be 1.5
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87 times the weight of water. (As for comparison, txe Earth is 5.5 times.)
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88 Akonis
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89 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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90 **********************************************************************
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91 What is remarkable about the following sentence?
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92 I am not very happy acting pleased whenever prominent
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93 scientists overmagnify intellectual enlightenment.
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94 ************* CISTOP MIKEY **** 12:03AM ****** 18 JUN 83 *************
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95 Easy, Mikey: all of the words are spelled right!
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96 CHUCKLE CHUCKLE CHORTLE CHUCKLE SNORT CHORTLE...CHUCKLE...GRIN...
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97 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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98 Not only that, each word has exactly one more letter than the word
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99 that preceeds it. Analog Alan
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100 {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}
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101 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%'%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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102 DEAR TRON-I AM THE AMAZON THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT. I AM 6 FT TALL AND
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103 VERY STRONG. SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT. MY NAME IS SABRA AND
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104 MEANS "THE BEAUTIFUL ONE" OR "BORN OF THE LAND". SABRA IS ISRALIAN
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105 AND THERE IS A GROUP OF WOMEN NAMED "SABRAS" THEY GO AROUND KILLING
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106 16 YEAR OLD COMMPUTER OPERATORS.
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107 WHAT TYPE OF SOFTWARE DO YOU PRODUCE? I AM REALLY INTERESTED
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108 IN COMMPUTERS. COULD YOU TELL ME SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR
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109 SOFTWARE. COULD YOU GIVE ME YOUR TELEPHONE NUMBER? PLEASE?
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110 SO WHAT IS IT LIKE AT CORBETT HIGH SCHOOL? I USED TO GO TO
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111 WILSON HIGH BUT I AM MOVING TO CALIFORNIA.
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112 I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, DOES YOUR SOFTWARE TURN INTO
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113 HARDWARE??????????????///////////SINCERLY, SABRA, THE AMAZON.
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114 6/18/83
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115 ***************************************************************
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116 All spelled right... ha ha I will have to remember to be more
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117 carefull next time.
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118 ********** CISTOP MIKEY **** 18 JUN 83 ****** 10:48AM **********
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119 To: Sabra the Amazon From: Tron Re: Software
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120 Sorry, those women can't come around killing me because I
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121 am 14. Wouldn't it be against their religon or something?
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122 I design and write software for ALL TRS-80 Computers. I
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123 own a Model I with 48k, Level II 3 cassette recorders and a
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124 direct connect modem I. I am mainly interested in timesharing
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125 mainframes such as UNIX. I am currently writing a UNIX simulator
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126 at the moment. It has a basic interpreter built into it and
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127 it is about the most pitiful thing you ever did see! Man it's slow!
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128 Also, do I know you? and why are you interested in what kind
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129 of software I produce? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything
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130 but I am truly curious. Corbett High School is so old that the
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131 thing is about to fall apart. You pull a staple out of the wall
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132 and the wall falls over. See how cheap they are? It has survived
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133 through 4 arsonizings and smells like the city sewer. I'd much
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134 rather go back to Parkrose or Columbia High. By the way, my phone
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135 number is 695-5762. Why do you want it? Again, I'm just curious.
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136
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137 Tron
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138 P.S. What kind of terminal are you using?
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139 ----------
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140 DEAR TRON,
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141 I AM USING A SIEGLER TERMINAL AND A TEKRONIX 4931 PHONE MODEM.
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142 NO I DO NOT KNOW YOU, SOME FRIENDS WERE TELLING ME ABOUT YOUR SOFTWARE,
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143 I WAS ALSO JUST CURIOUS. LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE ABOUT MYSELF, I AM 16.
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144 6FT TALL, 165 POUNDS, BUT NO FAT ON THIS BODY. I LIKE COMPUTERS, HORSE-
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145 BACK RIDING, SOFTBALL, SWIMMING, AND HORSERACING. I HAVE BLUE EYES, BROWN
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146 HAIR,MEDIUM LENGTH,FRECKLES, AND LONG LEGS. WHAT KIND OF MUSIC DO YOU LIKE?
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147 I LIKE JUDAS PREIST, VAN HALEN, SCORPIONS, IRON MADIEN, DEF LEPPARD, AND
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148 DAVID BOWIE. JUST BEING CURIOUS.
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149 TELL ME WHAT KIND OF PROGRAMS YOU HAVE PRODUCED. I HAVE NEVER
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150 PROGRAMED A COMPUTER BEFORE BUT I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN. BY THE WAY WHAT
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151 IS YOUR REAL NAME? MINE AS I SAID IS SABRA. IT WAS ON MY BIRTH CERTIFICATE,
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152 I GUESS MY MOM WAS STILL DELIRIOUS FROM THE ANISTESIA WHEN SHE NAMED ME.
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153 I DONT MEAN TO SOUND LIKE AN AMETUER BUT HOW IS IT THAT YOU SEEM TO
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154 BE SO (THIS IS HOW THEY SAY IT IN FLORIDA) BUFFED. IF YOU REALLY KNOW YOUR
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155 STUFF GIVE ME A SIGN.
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156 SINCERLY,
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157 SABRA, THE AMAZON.
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158 6/18/83
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159
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160 P.S. DO YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND?
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161 P.S.S. THE AMAZONS ARE FIERCE WARRIORS WHO HAVE USED MEN AS SLAVES FOR
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162 A LONG TIME. AND IF THE MEN DISOBEYED THEM THEY WERE KILLED. OBVIOSLY
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163 KILLING IS NOT AGAINST THEIR RELIGION. BUT THAT IS THE WAY IT GOES.
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164 HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE SITUATION? MYSELF I ESPECT MY MEN TO
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165 BE OBEDINT.I LOVE TO EXPERIMINT. AND NO GAMES INTENDED.
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166 TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN, MY NAME IS SABRA THE AMAZON, AND I WOULD LIKE
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167 TO CONVERSE WITH SOMEONE. JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CONVERSING. I AM WILLING
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168 TO TALK TO ANYONE WHO IS WILLING TO TALK TO ME.
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169 SINCERLY,
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170 SABRA THE AMAZON
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171 6/18/83
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172 DOES ANYONE OUT THERE KNOW OF ANYONE THAT REPAIRS OLD
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173 CLOCKS---------------------------------6/18/83---------
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174 ----------
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175 To: Sabra The Amazon From: Tron Re: Me
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176
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177 No, I don't have a girlfriend at the moment. I like just
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178 a little hard rock. I used to like Judas Priest but got sick
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179 of them because KGON crammed their songs. I do like Def Leopard
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180 and the Scorpions. Their music has something special in them.
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181 Don't ask me what but they just do. I listen to KMJK. The only
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182 reason I do is that their songs they play are good. I do like
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183 (don't laugh) Devo, Rush, Flock of Seagulls, Men At Work, and
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184 Journey. I don'T care for real hard rock but I like much more
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185 mellower kind of music. I pick my songs VERY carefully. Have
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186 you heard the song called "CARS" by Gary Numan? It's pretty
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187 good I think. My real name is Chris Bradley. By the way, who
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188 told you about my programming and stuff? I have programmed an
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189 adventure called simply "CRIME ADVENTURE". I sold it for $350
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190 bucks. I also have made a machine language game called "PESKY".
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191 Tell me, are you using you're own terminal or someone elses?
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192 Your name is very original. I had a friend named SODAPOP. I
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193 admire people with interesting names. One of my main specialties
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194 are machine language games. My music is selected by sounds
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195 and intriging lyrics. One thing I like about DEVO is their entire
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196 music (except drums) is taken up by Synthesizers. My interests
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197 include Horses, Snow skiing, Swimming, Skating (roller) and
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198 Biking. I am 5'6" tall and weigh 125 pounds. I have Brownish-
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199 Blonde hair with eyes that have a combonation of Grey, Blue
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200 and Green. I also like Video Games. Here are my favorites:
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201 Tron, Donkey Kong, Galaga, Zaxxon (my favorite), Joust, Xevious
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202 and Burger Time. Where do you live? What grade are you in?
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203 My software is entirely devoted to interest to the users. By
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204 the way, I play a number of insturments. I play Piano, Drums,
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205 Guitar, Violin and A little Trumpet. Tell me more about yourself.
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206
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207
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208 Tron
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209 ----------
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210 P.S. I respect others religon and don't try to stop them or make
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211 any arguments about what they and I believe. I don't talk about
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212 religion because you might get into fights or big arguments.
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213 I keep most of my opinions to myself but sometimes some of them
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214 slip out. I must respect the way the Ladies treat the Men in
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215 the Amozonian countries. I live MUCH differently thatn that. I
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216 must say that if a couple comes together, none of them rules.
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217 They are in this marriage for togetherness and I don't think
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218 that Men should rule Women and Vice Versa.
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219
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220
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221 (Me blabbing again) Tron
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222 ----------
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223 Sabra, you were just kidding about the Amazons going around
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224 killing 16-year olds using computers, weren't you?
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225 By the way, you could say that I know my stuff when I am talking
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226 about computer. 5 years working with every micro I ever seen
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227 is pretty good. I got my computer when I was 9. I am also very
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228 strong. I can lift 2000 pounds (yes, 2000 pounds) with my legs
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229 and can lift 200 with my arms. I also have an I.Q. of 157. Pretty
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230 good huh?
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231
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232 Tron
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233 ----------
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238 _____________________________________________________________________
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239 Just who would WANT to talk to a 16 yr old female (child)??????
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240 ___________Max Grody________________________________________________
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241 A 14 year old kid.
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242 ----------
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243 Sabra, I think that I'd be obedient just as much or even more
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244 than the person obeys me.
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245
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246 Tron
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247 ----------
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248 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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249 OK Sabra, someone else to talk to has finally
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250 logged on to this silly system. I'm a 19 year
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251 old male, 5'11, 175, blue eyes, light brown
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252 hair, programmer/hardware specialist extraordinaire,
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253 long-distance runner, cycler, pilot, and keyboard
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254 musician. Went to Cleveland High '82, now I'm
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255 at U of Washington in Seattle. Home for the
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256 summer, I'm working at Radio Shack on SE Woodstock.
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257 I have a 48K model I TRS-80 with one (only
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258 one!) disk drive, a LYNX modem, and lotsa neat
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259 home-made add-ons. I know many programming
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260 languages, like BASIC, Pascal, C, FORTRAN, LISP,
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261 and various assembly languages.
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262 (Hmmm, what else can I tell you?)
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263 --but of course! Name is Andy. Phone is
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264 774-xxxx... call me up sometime!
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265 -a-
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266 [Of course, you can always type...]
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267 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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268 Maybe this will end the arguments about whether women are better
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269 than men; if you say anything too bad Sabra the Amazon will zap
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270 your computer, or if you're real vulgar zap you too. So keep it
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271 clean on here, it's your life.
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272 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>better get off while the getting is good>>>>>>
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273 .........
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274 Does anybody know how to tell a very nice, but very PO'd cat that
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275 the pills I jam down her throat are good for her? She doesn't trust
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276 me anymore.
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277
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278
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279
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280
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281 help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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282 Yeah, grind 'em up and mix it with her food. It works!
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283 ............................................
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284 My cat will eat anything coated or hidden in cottage cheese or peanut
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285 butter. He's also partial to bear paws and McChicken patties. Slip
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286 your pills into one of these maybe.
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287 ----------
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288 Do you know what my cat eats? His favorite delecacy is Crepe
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289 Ala BEE with a light pasting of Slug. I tell you, my cat is
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290 WEIRD!!!
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291 Hey andy, where do you live? Got any programs you wanna trade?
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292 If so, leave a message on here.
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293
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294
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295 Tron
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296 ----------
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297 P.S. I also own a TRS-80 Model I with 48k without a disk drive.
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298 I don't believe this! I leave the system for just a few days and I come back
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299 and read about some immature 14 year old kid who lies 80% of the time talking
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300 to some strange 16 year old who weighs 165 lbs and says none of it is fat!
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301 Then some 19 year old(you would think by that age they would know better)
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302 gets on and puts his physical attributes and even a phone number! Jeeze
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303 what is the world coming too? Is it to be taken over by lie through your teeth
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304 munchkins who are about as computer literate as some of the primates
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305 at the oregon health science center? Please let us return this BBS to the
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306 insanity that graced its magnetic media before all these youngters starting
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307 logging on and messing with the traditional values of BWMS. Why doesn't some
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308 one invent a hardware device that will restrict entry to those only
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309 over the age of 21. That would get rid of most of the riffraff.
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310 And would someone tell these kids to take their acne cream and get off the
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311 system!?!
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312
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313 How about we all talk about Computer Stores?
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314 The Alternative Source at 4th and Lincoln which just opened up is just
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315 closing down....
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316 The BYTE Shop is opening a new store at the east end of the Stark/Washington
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317 two-way.
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318 Texas Instruments dropped $100,000,000.00 in the home computer business last
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319 quarter, does anyone out there own one? Anyone know someone who owns one?
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320
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321 the Phantom Glitch
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322
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323 0000000000000000000000000000000000060190830000000000000000000000000000000
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324 DOES ANYONE CARE?!
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325 ...................................
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326 Tron, I live right by Reed College. I've got some neat
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327 communications software if you're interested. Most of
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328 my stuff is written in Z-80 Assembler and C. See phone #
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329 a few lines back and give me a call sometime. (evenings,
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330 usually - I keep WEIRD hours.)
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331 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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332 To whom it may concern; the individual who entered comments
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333 regarding the nature of some of the younger users on this
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334 system: remember, even you were young once. Isn't one of
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335 the functions of a bulletin board (is this system one?) to
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336 meet people you have not met before? I don't know about
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337 the people you referred to in your message, but I like to
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338 make as many friends as possible...I only live once and
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339 may as well do it right.
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340 Q.
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341 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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346 ***************************************************
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347 COME ON PEOPLE, SETTLE DOWN! YOU'R ALL LOWERING THE
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348 AVERAGE IQ LEVEL OF THIS SYSTEM WITH YOUR ACCUSATIONS.
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349 LORD KNOWS ITS LOW ENOUGH AS IT IS WITHOUT YOU
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350 HELPING IT ALONG.
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351 ** CISTOP MIKEY **** 19 JUN 83 *** 5:00PM ************
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352 To the unsultive (im)mature (so called) adult above:
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353 For your information, we don't have acne! Ever heard of a Zit
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354 Zapper? Its like a spray gun except it's violent.
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355 Come on, don't be so insultive (not inslutive like before) to
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356 your younger youth group! We are your future; like it or not. We
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357 couldn't possibly screw this world up as much as you have! By
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358 the way, I'm not lying 80% of the time! No lies at all! When I
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359 talk computers, I know darn well what I am talking about and
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360 no one puts me down for it (if you know what I mean). I don't
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361 lie (well, Not often) and especially not on a bulletin board
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362 system. So, tighten up!
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363
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364 Tron
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365 P.S. I'm just kidding if you are.
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366 ----------
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367 To: Andy From: Tron Re: Swapping programs
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368
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369 Andy,
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370 Do you have a C compiler? If so, does it need disk? Do you
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371 have a compiler or interpreter for the TRS-80 Model I without
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372 disks? I have the new version of the Editor/Assembler. I also
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373 have a LOT of games. About 700 of them to be exact. My software
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374 library is FILLED with anything from space wars to bookeeping
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375 programs. I have SCRIPSIT, SUPER NOVA, ROBOT ATTACk (it talks
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376 without a voice synthesizer), Galaxy INVASION, and may others.
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377 To list them all would fill up 100 of mikeys_disks. I'm mainly
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378 interested in other languages. I'll be sure to give you a call.
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379 By the way, I'm 14 and live in Corbett. I'll be a freshman this
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380 year.
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381
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382
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383 Tron
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384 ----------
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385 Tron, the C compiler I use is part of Reed College's UNIX
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386 system. The Editor/Assembler I use came with my NEWDOS80
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387 and is the standard Radio Shack program with disk I/O and
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388 a few other goodies. I guess I can't beat you in the games
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389 department, I've only got a few, but ROBOT ATTACK, GALAXY
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390 INVASION, ARMORED PATROL, COSMIC FIGHTER, ATTACK FORCE,
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391 and SUPER NOVA are among them. (Love those Big Five games!)
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392 Have you visited Blackjack Fireworks yet? Amazing
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393 place, that. They won't let Washington residents in until
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394 June 28th. They have bags of 40 M-80's (no, not Z-80's!)
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395 for $18. A gross of bottle rockets: $6. Brick of 2000
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396 Black Cat firecrackers: $20. Not bad stuff! I just
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397 got back about an hour ago.
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398 Anyway... give me a call soon.
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399 -ag-
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400
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401 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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402 ps: What kind of term program are you using? -ag-
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403 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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404 Gee, I turned my zit zapper into a solder sucker ages ago..
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405 It works about as well sucking solder as it did zits.
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406 As the saying goes.. it sucks........
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407 (Sorry 'bout that, I couldn't resist... or was that etch?...)
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408 *** a very confused CISTOP MIKEY *** 1:30AM *** 20 JUN 83 ******
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409 ----------
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410 To: Andy From: Tron Re: Programs
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411 Do you have a subscription to 80-MICRO? If not, I could probably
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412 lend you some issues so you could get some programs and utilites
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413 out of them. By the way, what kind of modem do you have? Do you
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414 have BEDLAM, RAAKA-TU or PYRAMID? If not, maybe we could trade
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415 those. Also I have about 30 issues of CLOAD magazine. I have
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416 also written a tape I/O system that increases tape speed to
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417 1800 baud. No kidding, 1800 baud without hardware modification
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418 unless you have that XRX mod installed. When you power up, does
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419 your computer say "MEMORY SIZE? _" or "MEM SIZE? _"? The tape
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420 I/O only works with the "MEM SIZE" version. Well, I'll call ya
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421 later.
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422
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423
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424 Tron
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425 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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426 Tron, I have a subscription to 80-MICRO and one of these
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427 days I'm gonna go through all my back issues and enter all
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428 those neat programs and utilities I've been meaning to get...
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429 I have BEDLAM on cassette somewhere, and PYRAMID too.
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430 RAAKA-TU I don't have. And, my Trash is about four years
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431 old, so it says "MEMORY SIZE? _". How come the tape I/O
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432 only works with the new version? I know the ROM calls are
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433 different, but not that much... are they? I haven't used
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434 my tape in a long time. (ahh... memories! (4116's?)
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435 -ag-
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436 PS: I'm working tonight at Clackamas Town Center, back
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437 around 9:30 or so if ya wanna call.
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438 Oh yeah. I have a LYNX direct-connect 300-baud modem,
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439 with an autodialer I added. Oh yeah again: I thought of
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440 writing a tape-copying utility that will copy ANYTHING,
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441 even "protected" tapes. It's ridiculously easy...
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442 anyway, when a tape error is encountered, instead of the
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443 usual "C*" in the corner of the screen, it says:
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444 TAPE ERROR: BUY A DISK, DUMMY!
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445 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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446 To: Andy From: Tron Re: My terminal program
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447
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448 My terminal program consists of an Uploader/Downloader save
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449 to tape/retrieve to tape. It uses the SWTYM system. It also
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450 allows you to press <BREAK> key when you are waiting for another
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451 byte to come in from tape. It's a homebrew terminal program
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452 and I intend to sell it to 80-MICRO. The reason I wrote my own
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453 is that I didn't want to pay $60 for a program that would
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454 operate my modem and secondly, my friends told me to wait and
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455 get a disk. In effect, I totally disobeyd them. What kind of
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456 disk drive do you have? How much did you pay for a plain old
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457 set of 16k memories (4116's)? Could you call me instead? I kind
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458 of feel weird calling new people and am afraid to call people
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459 at late hours. Just trying not to make enemies. Why don't you
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460 call me anytime between 10:00am and 8:30pm. My phone number
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461 is 695-xxxx. Also, my name is Chris Bradley. Talk to ya!
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462
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463 Tron
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465 P.S. Call 245-xxxx with your computer. When the computer gives
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466 you a carrier detect, press <ENTER> until you get a response.
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467 Let's talk on that line instead.
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468 ----------
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469 Andy? --Andy Gillcrist?
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470 That was really not a nice trick!
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471 Not that it did you any good (Atari software only runs on Atari's)
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472 *********AMIGO-SUNDAY***********************************************
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||
473 Was that nasty note back there simply NV, or is somebody scared of
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||
474 being replaced? (Don't worry, a computer will eventually.
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475 I tried mixing the pills with Sarah's food, and she barfed it all up.
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476 I can't use peanut butter, or Fang will eat it instead.
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477
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478 With all the talk on this system, I'm almost afraid I know what "core"
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||
479 is. (I've even used it!) In what industry can you be obsolete (totally)
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480 in less than 10 years??
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||
481 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>B.A.D.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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482 MEOW
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||
483 //////
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484 ----------
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485 Here's the sure-fire way to get you're cat to eat pills! If he/
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486 she/(it) has milk or water, let it disolve into the water. When
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487 the cat drinks it, PRESTO! Kitty eat pill!
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488
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489 Tron
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490 ----------
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491 To: Andy From: Tron Re: Other software
|
||
492
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||
493 Andy,
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||
494 I also have DEFENSE COMMAND. Do you have ELIMINATOR or
|
||
495 PENETRATOR? Also, you mentioned something about wanting to make
|
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496 a program that copies "uncopiable programs"? I am EXTREMELY
|
||
497 farmiliar with the TRS-80 Model I's tape I/O system. MY MISTAKE!
|
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498 I GOOFED! Yes, my terminal program DOES work with the old TRS-80's
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||
499 tape I/O. That's funny, I got my computer 5 years ago and I
|
||
500 get "MEM SIZE ?" instead. I also have rewritten my computer's
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501 keyboard, video and tape drivers. I also like adding many more
|
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502 commands than my computer likes. I have written TONS of utility
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503 programs including a memory test that takes 10 hours; in machine
|
||
504 language. It pokes every value 0-255 into every single memory
|
||
505 location (not rom) twice. It thoroughly tests memory. If you
|
||
506 are interested in any of this stuff, give me a call from 10:00am
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||
507 to 8:30pm at 695-xxxx. Thanks......
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508
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509 Tron
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510 ----------
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||
511 H E L L O ! !
|
||
512 Tron,
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||
513 Got back late from work, so didn't have time to call.
|
||
514 Tomorrow I'm off, so I'll call 245-xxxx at, say, 11:00 or
|
||
515 so. (morning.)
|
||
516 I don't have either DEFENSE COMMAND or ELIMINATOR.
|
||
517 PENETRATOR either, but I've glimpsed that one from over
|
||
518 a friend's shoulder, when I can pull him far enough away
|
||
519 from the keyboard to see.
|
||
520 You really sound like you know what you're doing
|
||
521 with these here computers. I never really got into
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||
522 tape routines that much becase I always thought I was
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||
523 going to buy a disk system in a few weeks. (it actually
|
||
524 took two years, but who's counting?) I have ONE ss/sd
|
||
525 45-track five-inch drive (Tandon). It's only supposed
|
||
526 to go 40 tracks, but I have a good data seperator in my
|
||
527 interface. I heard some people saying they got their
|
||
528 drive heads to step farther in, so I tried it, and behold!
|
||
529 45 tracks, 10 more grans of storage. (Hey, with one
|
||
530 single density disk, you need all the space you can get!)
|
||
531 If you want to mess with it, I'll load my host program
|
||
532 tomorrow and see what I can come up with. Maybe I can send
|
||
533 you a copy of MEGATERM, my term program (unfinished yet,
|
||
534 no disk I/O, but it's getting there. No RS232 config-
|
||
535 uration yet, either, but who needs that often?)
|
||
536 Bedtime... talk tomorrow!
|
||
537 -ag-
|
||
538 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
||
539 To the AMIGO sysop: I know it was a dirty trick, but
|
||
540 ike converting software between computers. Besides,
|
||
541 I just wondered if it would work. :-)
|
||
542 -ag-
|
||
543 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
||
544 WHATS THIS!!! S&M AND BONDAGE BETWEEN TEENAGERS?????? I KNOW THE WORLD IS IN SAD
|
||
545 SHAPE BUT THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!!
|
||
546 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$21JUN83 - 1814$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
|
||
547 To: Mike Day Fm: Adam Trent Re: AMODEM
|
||
548 Hi Mike, Continuing to find AMODEM very useful. I thought I would
|
||
549 mention some problems I had with it in case you haven't heard of such
|
||
550 elsewhere--are you still looking for bugs? Anyway I've used it with
|
||
551 no noticeable problems (as now) on 300 baud modems. But then I tried
|
||
552 using it for transfer between a 2.5 MHz KAYPRO II and a 4MHz CCS 2200
|
||
553 at 9600 baud. When I first tried this at 19200 baud I experienced
|
||
554 problems. I dropped the baud rate to 9600 and fixed my INITMOD routine
|
||
555 so it wasn't changing the baud on me (back to 300!). I was doing a
|
||
556 quick one-shot transfer that day and after these fixes it worked for
|
||
557 the transfer. Hadn't done any other 9600 straight RS232 transfers till
|
||
558 recently. At which time nothing worked. I know now that things worked
|
||
559 the first time because I had reset the CCS and re-entered AMODEM. I
|
||
560 can transfer one file (BATCH off) if I reset the CCS and re-enter
|
||
561 AMODEM. If I stay in AMODEM and try another file transfer (fm CCS to
|
||
562 KAYPRO), I get a variety of Errors, depending on whether I start the
|
||
563 receive or the send first. Sorry, I didn't take good notes, but I
|
||
564 believe one such case was:
|
||
565 Slow Receiver:
|
||
566 FILE OPEN, READY TO RECEIVE
|
||
567 AWAITING # XXX *
|
||
568 and then "++ TIMEOUT ON ACK ++"
|
||
569 Fast Sender:
|
||
570 would show "++ TIMEOUT ON NAK ++"
|
||
571 Both AMODEMs would then cycle with these timeouts 10 times and return
|
||
572 to command prompt. I hope I remember this right. Anyway I started with
|
||
573 a shotgun approach based on a wild theory that the slow receiver (2.5Mhz)
|
||
574 was gobbling up the NAKs from the fast sender (4Mhz) and then trying to
|
||
575 receive the NAK it had just gobbled. It's a strange kind of interlock
|
||
576 (deadly interlock as opposed to deadly embrace) that doesn't show up
|
||
577 if the two processor speeds are close to the same. I reassembled
|
||
578 AMODEM on the KAYPRO since I had the source there--I deleted
|
||
579 "CALL GARBAGE" in the SENDFIL, GETNAK, GETACK, AND SENDNAK routines.
|
||
580 It works like greased lighting with the cosmetic deficit of apparently
|
||
581 2-bytes of garbage characters at the end of a send from XMODEM on the
|
||
582 Bv RCPM. I should (but haven't yet) go back and find exactly which
|
||
583 CALL GARBAGE was the culprit. Just wanted to pass this experience
|
||
584 on to you if you haven't encountered this before. Hope it may help
|
||
585 you to make AMODEM even better. 21jun83 - Adam Trent
|
||
586 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
|
||
587 To Tron: If you're into languages, CHECK OUT FORTH!!!
|
||
588 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
|
||
589 To: Adam Trent Fm: Mike Day
|
||
590 Thanks for the info! Yes I can see the problem. No, I never heard of
|
||
591 it before you mentioned it. When I wrote the Garbage routine to fix
|
||
592 a problem in interrupt machines which buffer up lots of characters
|
||
593 it was intended to clean them out. Thus I wrote the garbage routine
|
||
594 to collect data from the usart (or port) until the status went away.
|
||
595 It seems that if you are right on the edge though the status doesn't
|
||
596 go away (if I read what you are saying correctly). hmm.. This could be
|
||
597 a bit tricky to fix.
|
||
598 ////////////////////////////////////
|
||
599 I can't mix those pills with anything: they tast AWFUL!!!!! @$%^&*!!
|
||
600 If Sara gets even a trace on her tongue on the way down, its gag, spit,
|
||
601 barf, drool, yuck. One pill ruins a whole can of her favorite flavor.
|
||
602 Even Fang won't eat it, and he'll eat anything. I'll have to save a
|
||
603 couple of 'em to put on thing they chew on. I did clip her claws, though,
|
||
604 (only 4 fingers left to type with after last night.) Better than flash
|
||
605 bulbs, one rattle of the pill bottle and she's GONE.
|
||
606 Any better suggestions?????????????????????????????B.A.D.
|
||
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