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From: TURTLE
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: Workshops
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 00:24:46
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Message Number 12711
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>Posting on this BBS is good therapy, too.
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Oh, Lordy...does that mean I'm liable for malpractice suits now?
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From: TURTLE
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: curious
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 00:28:30
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Message Number 12712
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RufusCon '91 will be announced well in advance everywhere...BBS's,m
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word of mouth, posters, you name it. I can't guarantee a live band
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for RufusCon '91; the one that showed up at RufusCon '90 was
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totally unexpected. (They just turned up, and I for one didn't know
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any of 'em from anywhere. A knock on the door, a bunch of people
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standing on the doorstep with large amplifiers, and the rest is
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history.) It's open to any sentient being that wants to wander by.
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RufusCon '91 likely won't take place until at least mid-summer,
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though...
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Suncoast City Joint Monthly Indoor Picnicks are usually posted a week
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in advance on this system; they generally happen about the first
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Saturday of the month.
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From: TURTLE
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: fish
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 00:33:06
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Message Number 12713
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I /hate/ when my bass gets stuck on an alligator...ruins the
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strings, and the pickups are a pain to replace when they've got
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seaweed stuck in 'em. Plus it ruins the finish, ya know?
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From: TURTLE
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: "Slapped"
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 00:34:05
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Message Number 12714
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>But have you found that as you grow older, your "gut feelings"
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>grow wiser?
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Of course. Experience, doncha know. At that point they are no longer
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strictly intuitive and strictly non-rational, though.
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From: TURTLE
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: Role models
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 00:35:58
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Message Number 12715
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Bad role models abound; I7d say that has little to do with the
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family a person comes from. Sure, a person raised in a close-knit
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family may be a little more discriminating, but not necessarily.
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A loving family is no guarantee of a healthy adult, and a
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"dysfunctional" (what a staggeringly meaningless word) family does not
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always produce "dysfunctional" adults. Insecurity comes from many
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places and in many forms, and I'm hard put to think of any single
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bigger factor in a troubled relationship.
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From: TURTLE
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: Lizards & You
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 00:40:54
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Message Number 12716
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Lizard Logic, huh? Well, I'll be damned. I just had a lengthy conver-
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sation with a friend of mine, in whic I put forth the idea that a large
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number of people's problems relationship-wise stem from letting the
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lizard brain handle the situation--the limbic system approach to
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interpersonal management, if you will. And now I find out that not
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only is it not an original idea, someone's gone and written a BOOK
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about it. Well, there go my royalties...
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From: TURTLE
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: What does it
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 00:44:06
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Message Number 12717
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> A sick JonBoy
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> (at least Wratt sez so)
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Not that he's one to talk. Anyone who doesn't like Mountain Dew...but
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I digress. Speaking of which, you up for rebuilding Lori's carb (and
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looking at her fuel pump) next Saturday?
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From: TURTLE
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: Plastic people
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 00:47:52
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Message Number 12718
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You forgot erotic love, which was one of the four Greek classifications.
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Personally, I always found the Greek system stiflingly arbitrary and
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somewhat incomplete. It makes no provision, for example, for love
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for one's self, which is a very different animal from the ones you
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named, and it doesn't really distinguish between different types of
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"love from afar" (love of all mankind is a very different animal from
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love for one's flag or love of one's personal diety). I tend toward
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the view that there are at least as many different types of love as
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there are people.
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From: TURTLE
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: Aardvarkians!!
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 00:51:42
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Message Number 12719
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>Errr I'm trying to flush them out! Honest!
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Very well...you may once again partake of th Sacred Dew. Just don't
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let it happen again.
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(Actually, the tome hasn't been written yet, but Rufus and I are
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nominally working on it. An excerpt, on the expression "May the Aardvark
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of Happiness lick your toes":
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Just as the toe leads the foot, and the foot propels the body
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down life's path, so does the Sacred Aardvark lead us all
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on the Shining Path.
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From: TURTLE
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: Plastic people
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 00:54:37
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Message Number 12720
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>Nothing makes ya feel better than a hug.
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With the possible exception of a Mountain Dew, an inside strait in a
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four-hundred-dollar pot, or any letter beginning "Dear Sweepstakes
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Winner".
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(c) 1991 Anarchy Now, Inc. Any individual or group taking this message
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seriously deserves to.
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From: TURTLE
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: Loving people
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 00:56:25
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Message Number 12721
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>Ah, but what word described the guy that's in love with himself....
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>Besides a "jerk", that is?
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Cut that out. Without some amount of self-love love of others is
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rather difficult, doncha think? I've met people who genuinely have
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no self-love. It's a miserable state of affairs.
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From: TURTLE
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To: THE SPECIALIST
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Subject: Clarity
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 01:01:11
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Message Number 12722
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All of a sudden, it hit me how to put my objections to the
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war thing more succintly and directly than I managed to do
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before.
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I am not against the war because I don't think we should be fighting
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against Hussein; I oppose the war because I don't think we should
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be fighting /for/ a bloody goddamn bastard like the Emir. Clear?
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From: SCOTT STEEL
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To: THE SPECIALIST
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Subject: welcome
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 01:11:30
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Message Number 12723
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TS> I wouldn't include you in with us anyway.
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You mean I can't, like, hang around with you guys anymore?
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From: SCOTT STEEL
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To: THE SPECIALIST
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Subject: Homos in the WP
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 01:18:16
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Message Number 12724
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TS> Fags in the workplace...I swear to God if it were in my power I
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TS> I would have (beat him with a single weapon)
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Yeah, well, you could have whipped him had-to-hand. I wanted to
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beat to hell out of him, but I had to ignore him. He wasn't worth my
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old $9/hr paying job.
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But it would have been fun.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: Scandalized
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 01:21:25
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Message Number 12725
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SA> Hy, JB, I'm arried, I'm not dead. U still know hos to bat my
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eyelashes....
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Gaaaawddd, aren't we just the flirt?
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From: SCOTT STEEL
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: The way to Eden
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 01:23:04
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Message Number 12726
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Sounds vaguely familiar, perhaps I /did/ see it. But if I can't
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remember it, obviously to wasn't worth remembering. (if you recall we
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were talking about the shows we didn't like.)
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From: SCOTT STEEL
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: Amen
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 01:24:55
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Message Number 12727
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SS> Where do you know Barbara Dare from? (perverted smile)
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SA> no comment....(batting eyelashes again)
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Chicken-shit, what, are we afraid to fess up? Just for clarification,
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I'm not dropping this string until you do confess. (shinig bright light
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of intergation on your conscience.) hehehe :)
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A sometimes stuborn,
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Scott Steel
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From: SCOTT STEEL
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: Slammed
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 01:35:24
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Message Number 12728
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That was not the situation, we were in friends. He knew that he
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probably would offended. And yes he /was/ being serious, he was hitting
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on a couple of other guys as well.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: Plastic people
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 01:37:47
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Message Number 12729
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I didn't live with walls around my heart. I hug a lot of my friends,
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I am a very affectionate person. I feel most comfortable with a
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girl snuggled right up next to me. And I didn't have any hang ups about
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hugging guys.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: <Continuing>
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 01:45:58
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Message Number 12730
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Just for the record, I skipped over all that /junk/ and I mean /junk/.
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Can't you two let this debate die? You can't change the situation in
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the Gulf, and everybody knows you aren't going to change each others
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mind either.
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From: KNIGHT OWL
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: A.C.O.A.
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 11:00:55
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Message Number 12732
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Yes, I'm familiar with A.C.O.A.. I attend when I can (work schedule
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chenges from week to week), and it has helped.
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KO>Coming from a dysfunctional family can be a source of strength.
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JB> Coming from a dysfunctional family is a life-crippling event and
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should be treated as such. You may not even aware of all the mental
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damage that you have sustained.
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The reason that I made the statement about strength is because of many
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reasons.
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I got my strength from my mother who is very strong emotionally
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despite the 17 years of horror that she lived. My sister has also been
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very strong.
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1a) If you have a network of people around you that can help you during
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the bad times, you're very fortunate
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2)Despite the gravity of the subject, a sense of humor helps greatly.
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3)The possibility ALWAYS exists that the alcoholic will get help. I
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left when I was 17, and my father quit 4 years later. I often feel that
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I should have stayed at home.
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As for the emotional damage, yes I'm aware of it, and I'm seeking help
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for it.
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SEE YA!
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Knight Owl
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From: KNIGHT OWL
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Workshops
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 11:40:40
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Message Number 12733
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S> Posting on this BBS is good therapy, too.
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T> Oh lordy...dpoes that mean that I'm liable for malpractice?
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No, you covered your *ss rather well with the log-off sattement about
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all of this being fiction or coincidence.
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SEE YA!
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Knight Owl
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From: SAAVIK
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Workshops
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 13:53:55
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Message Number 12734
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T>Does that mean I'm liable for malpractice suits now?
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Hmmmmm, Dr. Turtle....., I think you're safe.
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From: SAAVIK
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: curious
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 13:55:34
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Message Number 12735
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Thanks for the info. Maybe I can round up a band for Rufuscom 91. I know
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alot of musicians....
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From: SAAVIK
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: fish
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 13:56:49
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Message Number 12736
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Hmmm, seaweed on a bass. I guess you'd better get a sea bass either that
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or quit playing those surfin' songs. How long have you been playing the
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bass? Have you played with any local bands??? ----A curious Saavik
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From: SAAVIK
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: "Slapped"
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 13:59:02
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Message Number 12737
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T>At that point they (gut feelings) are no longer strictly intuitive
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and strictly non-rational, though.
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.
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Please elaborate. What do you mean by non-rational. I find as I get
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older, my judgement becomes more rational. I think in terms of the
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big picture. Consequences and all that stuff.
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From: SAAVIK
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Big factor
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 14:01:11
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Message Number 12738
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In my opinion, one of the biggest factors in troubled relationships is
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selfishness. If a person can't see beyond his or her own needs... the
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relationship is doomed.
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From: SAAVIK
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Aardvarkians!!
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 14:03:36
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Message Number 12739
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And what's the Greek word for loving the Aardvark?
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Aardvarderotica????
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From: SAAVIK
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Plastic people
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 14:05:03
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Message Number 12740
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You forgot that exhilerating moment when you open the Visa Statement
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and it says...."You're credit line has been extended to......"
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Shop til you drop......CHARGE IT!!!!!!
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From: SAAVIK
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Loving people
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 14:06:32
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Message Number 12741
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oK, cutting it out. You're right, of course (a very annoying trend of
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yours). But I was talking about the normal love "The greatest love of
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all...." I was talking about obsessive self love "You're so vain".
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Can you tell I relate to songs?
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From: SAAVIK
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To: SCOTT STEEL
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Subject: The way to Eden
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 14:11:16
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Message Number 12743
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You are a forgiven Trekkie for not remembered that show. It was the
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Pitts!!!!
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Give God agin
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 19:16:47
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Message Number 12747
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I don't know about you, but I don't want people burying toxic wastes
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outside *my* town somewhere, so I wouldn't do it to any other town.
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Also, cutting down rainforests hurts everybody. The examples you
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cited can also be applied to the Golden Rule (I don't know why I
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caplitalized that), that is, I wouldn't do those things (to people) and
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I wouldn't want them done to me. Just because it says for the
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individual doesn't mean it can't cover plural.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Give God agin
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 19:19:40
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Message Number 12748
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On a related suject to my last message, I would also like to state that
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I wonder if you reject the Golden Rule simply because of it's origin;
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ie because it came from the Bible and you consider half the adivice
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(SP advice) and other things in the Bible to be pure bunk>
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: Plastic people
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 19:24:15
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Message Number 12749
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JB>My personal campain is to hug anyone that is dear to me and F*ck
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JB>anyone who feels it isn't manly.
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F*ck them? Now who is a repressed homo? (Chuckle...guffaw SNORT!)
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But seriously, JB...I hope that I never become that good of a friend
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of yours. A hug would end that fast...and might put me in the hospital.
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(After my beserk)
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: Book
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 19:28:07
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Message Number 12750
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JB> Book: Dinosaur Brains...
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Oh, cool! Can I borrow it?
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: welcome
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 19:29:13
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Message Number 12751
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JB>C'mon Dave - quit being so damned snotty. We can disagree and call
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JB>each other jerks but still remain gentlemen - Ok?
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Or the equivalent. Yes, sir, fine with me.
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I've just been arguing with Turtle & Max too long, I guess.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: Theragram
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 19:30:53
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Message Number 12752
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S>Posting on this BBS is good therapy, too.
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JB> I dunno, - I have visions of TS taking a bayonet to his personal
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JB>"Gay Bob" [ROFLOL] doll after he logs off here. I may cause a lot
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JB>of stress for some people.
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Y'know, it's funny you mention that--I used to have a girlfriend that
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I took out my anger on (sadly, yes, I actually *am* an asshole) when
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I got too pissed off on the boards. She used to try to keep me off
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of them...said they caused "strife". (She was religious - er, excuse
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me, she had "A good relationship with her Lord." Sheesh! She explained
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the difference but it sounds the same to me. Gimme a break...)
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: SAAVIK
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Subject: Workshops
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 19:38:27
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Message Number 12753
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S>After reading about the "Gay Bob" doll, I'm sure he's laughing too
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S>hard to find his bayonet.
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ROFLOL - Roling On Floor Lauging Out Loud...
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: What does it
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Date & Time: 02/25/91 19:57:07
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Message Number 12755
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|
||
T>...you up for rebuilding Lori's carb (and looking at her fuel pump)...
|
||
|
||
And maybe adding some more horsepower to that machine?
|
||
|
||
|
||
Need some help?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: welcome
|
||
Date & Time: 02/25/91 19:59:54
|
||
Message Number 12756
|
||
|
||
TS>I wouldn't include you in with us anyway.
|
||
SS>you mean I can't, like, hand around with you guys anymore?
|
||
|
||
Only if you take the sacred vow of Fag Bashing. Right, Tiberius?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: Homos in the WP
|
||
Date & Time: 02/25/91 20:01:39
|
||
Message Number 12757
|
||
|
||
TS>I would have (beat daylights out of him)
|
||
SS>YOu could have whipped him hand-to-hand.
|
||
|
||
Probably, but who wants to touch one?
|
||
|
||
SS>He wasn't worth my $9 hr job.
|
||
|
||
What? Yes, it was. Who wants to work in the same place with a fag?
|
||
|
||
SS>But it would have been fun.
|
||
|
||
It would have been appropriate. Just. DESERVED.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: Slammed
|
||
Date & Time: 02/25/91 20:05:06
|
||
Message Number 12758
|
||
|
||
JB>he might have been joking...
|
||
SS>...he /was/ being serious, he was hitting on a couple of other guys
|
||
SS>as well.
|
||
|
||
"Shrink, I wanna kill. Kill! KILL KILL KILL!" -Arlo Guthrie
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: Plastic people
|
||
Date & Time: 02/25/91 20:06:48
|
||
Message Number 12759
|
||
|
||
SS> And I didn't have any hang ups about hugging guys.
|
||
|
||
Scott, stop it. You don't need to overstate a matter to defend yourself
|
||
against his conniving attacks.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Loving people
|
||
Date & Time: 02/25/91 20:10:21
|
||
Message Number 12761
|
||
|
||
S> [to Turtle] Ok, cutting it out. You're right, of course (a very
|
||
S>annoying trend of yours.)
|
||
|
||
Ah, yes, you noticed that, eh? Except I'd call it a HABIT.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Barbara Dare
|
||
Date & Time: 02/25/91 20:11:57
|
||
Message Number 12762
|
||
|
||
S>I confess, I ...
|
||
|
||
[Look of shocked suprise!] [Changes to malicious grin...]
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Plastic people
|
||
Date & Time: 02/25/91 20:25:33
|
||
Message Number 12763
|
||
|
||
>SA Gotten me in trouble more than once...
|
||
Yeah - ain't it terrible when ya try to be warm and they interpret it
|
||
as "hot ta go"?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Carbs
|
||
Date & Time: 02/25/91 20:33:20
|
||
Message Number 12764
|
||
|
||
Sure we can do that - remind me a day or so in advance to make sure that
|
||
I remember to get some cleaner and small brushes. Ask her if she can
|
||
show up early (like noon-ish) so that if any more disasters strike
|
||
we have olenty of time to deal with them. It might even be nice to
|
||
swipe her book a day in advance so that I can make sure that if anything
|
||
special is required - I can get it. I was also meaning to call and see
|
||
if I could loacate even a junker distributer so we maybe could replace
|
||
that worn breaker plate. What year and model is her Soo-ba-roo?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Plastic people
|
||
Date & Time: 02/25/91 20:37:30
|
||
Message Number 12765
|
||
|
||
The point was that they didn't try and make one word do the work of
|
||
many with the corresponding confusion about what exactly the point
|
||
was (is). The greeks usually were pretty arbitrary about a lot of
|
||
ideas and concepts and annoyingly precise about those things they
|
||
knew the least about.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Plastic people
|
||
Date & Time: 02/25/91 20:40:40
|
||
Message Number 12766
|
||
|
||
T> any letter beginning with "Dear Sweepstakes Winner"
|
||
|
||
Hey I get personal ones of those all the time and from good ol'
|
||
Ed hisself. Never made me feel real warm tho... I must be inured
|
||
to those sorts of "life's better moments".
|
||
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Plastic people
|
||
Date & Time: 02/25/91 20:50:01
|
||
Message Number 12767
|
||
|
||
TS> A hug might end that fast --
|
||
Gee Dave - you sure are touchy. Thing about how little a value you
|
||
just put on a friendship. (note that I overlooked the repressed
|
||
joke - mmmmphhhh (supressed grin))
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Book
|
||
Date & Time: 02/25/91 20:51:34
|
||
Message Number 12768
|
||
|
||
TS> Can I borrow it?
|
||
|
||
Sure - long as I get it back. Lemme know when - maybe I could
|
||
give it to Turtle this weekend and you could get it then.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: carbs
|
||
Date & Time: 02/25/91 21:29:39
|
||
Message Number 12769
|
||
|
||
T>...you up for rebuilding Lori's carb (and looking at her fuel pump)...
|
||
TS> And maybe adding some more horsepower to that machine?
|
||
I think she'll be just as happy if ity runs smooth - the distributor was
|
||
a big help - now on to the most likely cause of a sick car.
|
||
|
||
TS> Need some help?
|
||
Ummmm I would really prefer that it not become a group grope. Too many
|
||
small parts y'unnerstand not to mention me and turtle tend to cramp
|
||
what little space there is under the hood. Thanks for the offer tho...
|
||
We should be able to wreck uhhhh repair (yeah - that's it!) her carb
|
||
ok.
|
||
Master Mechanical JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: GROUCHO
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: Killer Instinct
|
||
Date & Time: 02/25/91 21:57:50
|
||
Message Number 12770
|
||
|
||
Being new to this BBS, I just thought I'd drop a little note here to
|
||
let y'all know I'm here. After having read the messages on the board,
|
||
I find a large number of "enlightened" individuals. Having had my
|
||
horizons expanded for a considerable number of years, I may have
|
||
something of interest to add to the ongoing topics of conversation.
|
||
I think the "homophobe" or whoever he is is entertaining. I wonder
|
||
if this guy advocates personal freedom of choice or would take away
|
||
the rights of others to suit his own preferences. I further wonder
|
||
what sort of upbringing and environmental stimuli would produce such
|
||
an outspoken individual.
|
||
|
||
To Saavik: I like your messages (I'll bet you have "smiling eyes").
|
||
|
||
To Turtle: Glad to be aboard and I appreciate the time and $$ you
|
||
spend to provide this service. This does not mean that
|
||
I will agree with all your views.
|
||
|
||
To all others: Pick a topic, any topic, I have a "collective" opinion
|
||
on just about anything. If I can't formulate one, the
|
||
topic is probably beneath me.
|
||
|
||
Groucho
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: <Continuing>
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 00:02:20
|
||
Message Number 12771
|
||
|
||
>Just for the record, I skipped over all that /junk/ and I mean /junk/.
|
||
|
||
If you didn't read it, you have no right to respond to it...or even to
|
||
call it "junk."
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Workshops
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 00:03:40
|
||
Message Number 12772
|
||
|
||
>Hmmmmmm, Dr. Turtle....., I think you're safe.
|
||
|
||
You /think/? You THINK?? How's that gonna help me in the courtroom???
|
||
Aaaiiiggghhh!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: fish
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 00:04:40
|
||
Message Number 12773
|
||
|
||
Actually, I don't play the bass...I was simply making a play on words,
|
||
doncha know. :( There was talk earlier about starting a band with some
|
||
of the users here (I do play drums, or at least did), but it seems to
|
||
have stalled.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: "Slapped"
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 00:05:43
|
||
Message Number 12774
|
||
|
||
Non-rational means just that. I was making the observation that
|
||
rationality is generally a good way to approach a relationship, and you
|
||
said that since you don't always know what's going on in the other
|
||
person's head you sometimes have to rely on intuition instead. But
|
||
if your intuition improves with experience, obviously intuition is not
|
||
non-rational...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Aardvarkians!!
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 00:07:28
|
||
Message Number 12775
|
||
|
||
>And what's the Greek word for loving the Aardvark?
|
||
>Aardvarderotica?
|
||
|
||
The Greeks, for all their wisdom in other matters, were sadly un-
|
||
enlightened about the Shining Path. Unfortunately, there is no
|
||
Greek word for love of the Aardvark. But they do make a mean sandwich,
|
||
so that's gotta count for something.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Plastic money
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 00:09:02
|
||
Message Number 12776
|
||
|
||
>CHARGE IT!!!!!!
|
||
|
||
I don't do credit cards. If I can't afford it now, I can't afford it.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Loving people
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 00:09:47
|
||
Message Number 12777
|
||
|
||
>Can you tell I relate to songs?
|
||
|
||
Beats relating to Post-It fish, I suppose.
|
||
|
||
...so what's so annoying about being right??
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Barbara Dare
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 00:10:46
|
||
Message Number 12778
|
||
|
||
>...I RENT porno flicks. The plots are so intelligent...
|
||
|
||
On a side note, I have heard (apocryphally) that there are intelligent,
|
||
well-produced porno flicks out there, but I've never seen one or talked
|
||
first-hand to anyone who has.
|
||
|
||
>I also read Hustler because the articles are so informing.
|
||
|
||
Err...in a manner of speaking, I suppose you could call 'em that. Me, if
|
||
I want article content I read Playboy. No shit. The last copy I bought,
|
||
I read cover to cover and when I was done realized I hadn't stopped to
|
||
look at the pictures. Sad...really, really sad.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Give God agin
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 00:13:41
|
||
Message Number 12779
|
||
|
||
Yes, those things can be applied to the golden rule, but not directly;
|
||
you can logically argue that any action not directly related to other
|
||
people is not covered by that rule. Also, the G.R. has /nothing/ to
|
||
say about any action which does not relate directly or incidentally to
|
||
the way you interact with others, where the Wiccan version does.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Give God agin
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 00:15:06
|
||
Message Number 12780
|
||
|
||
I don't reject the Golden Rule; I think it's good advice for governing
|
||
interactions between people. I just don't think it's sufficient. I
|
||
don't reject anything in the Bible just because it's from the Bible;
|
||
in fact, most of the Ten Commandments are pretty good guidelines, too.
|
||
The Bible is somewhat useful as a history text, if you treat it as
|
||
folk histor and not as gospel truth (sorry 'bout the pun); it's
|
||
got some merit as a work of social morality; I just happen to think its
|
||
description of the way the universe works is bunk. Burning bushes...
|
||
I don't think so.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: <Starting>
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 00:19:07
|
||
Message Number 12781
|
||
|
||
My point was not that I believe the Kuwaitis should live under a
|
||
democracy, or that they should adopt our Constitution, or what-have-
|
||
you. My point was that I cannot with clear conscience fight a war to
|
||
support a government that murders its own people. I believe that that
|
||
sort of behavior is morally wrong, period. I am surprised and disturbed
|
||
by your claim that the Emir is legitimate because he hasn't been tossed
|
||
out of power yet; does that mean you support any government, no matter
|
||
how brutal, that has managed to cling to power for X amount of
|
||
time?
|
||
|
||
What I would like to see in Kuwait is not an American government, or
|
||
an Iraqui government, but a government set up by the Kuwaitis--ALL of
|
||
the Kuwaitis. The way Kuwait is structured now, women have no say (and
|
||
in fact under certain circumstances can be BOUGHT and SOLD, for god's
|
||
sake!); non-Kuwaitis have no say, even if they've lived there all their
|
||
life, even if they've become Kuwaiti nationals; and people without
|
||
a certain economic status have no say. If ALL of these people were to
|
||
have some voice in setting up their government, and I mean some voice
|
||
other than "Well, they haven't assassinated the Emir yet," THEN I would
|
||
call that a "legitimate" government.
|
||
|
||
To answer your other question: I am still somewhat skeptical about the
|
||
US having any business in the Gulf to begin with, but were we not
|
||
fighting under the auspices of a known dictator I would feel much better
|
||
about supporting the war effort. Yes, were we not fighting to restore
|
||
a society where women are property and the secret police are not
|
||
answerable to any outside legal agency for any of their actions, I would
|
||
most likely approve of the war. I simply cannot approve of anything
|
||
that supports and encourages these sort of things, because I find them
|
||
morally repugnant.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: What does it
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 00:26:53
|
||
Message Number 12782
|
||
|
||
>And maybe adding some more horsepower to that machine?
|
||
|
||
Right now I'd be happy if it didn't stumble under hard acceleration and
|
||
didn't misfire at high speed. The horsepower is secondary...after all,
|
||
it IS a Subaru station wagon!
|
||
|
||
>Need some help?
|
||
|
||
I dunno...what are you doing Saturday morning? Wratt will probably be
|
||
down from Tampa; the more the merrier. (You may have second thoughts
|
||
when you see the carb, though...)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Carbs
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 00:30:01
|
||
Message Number 12783
|
||
|
||
Well, swiping Lori a day in advance is probably out of the question,
|
||
since she has class until late and I work until 10:30. Noonish on
|
||
Saturday sounds good to me (although I bet she gripes about getting
|
||
up that early...we're both noctournal, doncha know). The car in
|
||
question is an '86 Subaru GL (non-turbo, non-4WD version, 1800CC
|
||
engine, station wagon).
|
||
|
||
...say, you know anything about automatic trannies? Hers is starting
|
||
to slip between second and third...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: carbs
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 00:33:09
|
||
Message Number 12784
|
||
|
||
Well, hell. Here I go and say "Sure, c'mon over," and you nix it.
|
||
*sigh* Well, I guess you do got a point 'bout space under the hood,
|
||
but I'll leave it up to you and T.S. to hash out.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Barbara Dare
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 00:55:10
|
||
Message Number 12788
|
||
|
||
SA> Saavik is NOT a chicken shit!!!!!! I confess, I RENT porno flicks...
|
||
....Ok, I'm apervert??
|
||
|
||
God, you just wreck my perfect image of you. :)
|
||
|
||
Please remove that curse, pretty please.
|
||
|
||
A very perverted,
|
||
Scott Steel
|
||
|
||
P.S. How do you think /I/ knew about Barbara Dare. Personally my fav is
|
||
Ginger Lynn. I don't what do you care?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Plastic people
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 00:59:52
|
||
Message Number 12789
|
||
|
||
Hugs, yes I know, a firm hand shake and maybe a hand on the shoulder
|
||
what constitute a hug to you. But not to a lot of people. In that way,
|
||
you are very closed-off. I hope you get an affectionate girlfriend that
|
||
can break you of that.
|
||
But, I kind of doubt it. (Breaking you of that, not getting a girlfriend
|
||
I wouldn't stoop that low)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Theragram
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 01:03:37
|
||
Message Number 12790
|
||
|
||
TS> Gimme a break...
|
||
|
||
Okay, hold out your neck.
|
||
|
||
(Stole joke from the Specialist)
|
||
So he gets the credit for that joke.)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: welcome
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 01:06:17
|
||
Message Number 12791
|
||
|
||
TS> ...sacred vow of Fag Bashing.
|
||
|
||
What is this vow you speak of?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: carbs
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 01:10:08
|
||
Message Number 12792
|
||
|
||
Hey, I have a sick '78 Chevette. Won't start, won't run.
|
||
Want to take a look?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: <Continuing>
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 01:12:09
|
||
Message Number 12793
|
||
|
||
T> If you didn't read it, you have no right to respond to it..or even to
|
||
T> call it "junk."
|
||
|
||
Well, I read about the first five lines, realized you where saying
|
||
something close to nothing, therefore I called it junk. You were just
|
||
reiterating your position, again. Which you and the Specialist like
|
||
to do for some reason. Over and over and ver again.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Barbara Dare
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 01:16:39
|
||
Message Number 12794
|
||
|
||
T> ...I read Playboy. The last copy I bought, l read cover to cover and
|
||
T> when I was done realized I hadn't stopped to look at the pictures.
|
||
T> Sad...really, really sad.
|
||
|
||
I'd say so.
|
||
Are is your hormones working right?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: <Starting>
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 01:19:13
|
||
Message Number 12795
|
||
|
||
Like I said, over and over and over again.
|
||
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: carbs
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 01:20:54
|
||
Message Number 12796
|
||
|
||
T> I'll leave it up to you and T.S. to hash it out.
|
||
|
||
Yeah, I'll tag along too. I usually supply the sometimes needed brute
|
||
force for the Specialist. Helped change out the engine in his Dodge,
|
||
you know.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: E-mail
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 01:25:26
|
||
Message Number 12797
|
||
|
||
Hey, I left you some E-mail and you didn't read it.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KNIGHT OWL
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: A.C.O.A.
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 02:09:35
|
||
Message Number 12798
|
||
|
||
No problem on Terrran Trace. It was a good start though. What would you
|
||
think of an ACOA area there. Lemme know, and I'll ask Random about it.
|
||
|
||
>I too had a strong mother & 2 sisters.
|
||
Are you the youngest of the family? I am.
|
||
I know what you mean by ruined holidays. I can't remember the last
|
||
decent holiday meal in our house.
|
||
My father too, was a WWII vet. When he was laid to rest, we enclosed a
|
||
48-star flag (6'x4', It was BIG!) in place of the 50-star banner. I'm
|
||
not sure why though.
|
||
The war brings some aches to me also, but I handle it well.
|
||
|
||
My father was also very talented in his profession, but due to the alco-
|
||
hol, he was forced to retire at age 50.
|
||
As for the blame, I place it upon myself. Bad childhood health didn't
|
||
help matters.
|
||
|
||
-- An A.C.0.A
|
||
Knight Owl
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TIBERIUS
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: How not to
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 10:11:50
|
||
Message Number 12800
|
||
|
||
>Don't get "slapped" for staring........
|
||
|
||
That's one thing I don't have to worry about. I am the master of the
|
||
"Furtive glance". If that doesn't work, I'll wear my mirror sunglasses.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Amen
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 12:19:58
|
||
Message Number 12801
|
||
|
||
Blonde hair and kinda short??? I remember he had big muscles and a dark
|
||
tan and a deep voice. I can't remember his name. Yeah, his hair was
|
||
blonde. He kinda reminded me of Arnold Swartzen...(however you spell
|
||
his name. I haven't seen him in a several years.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Aardvarkians!!
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 12:28:34
|
||
Message Number 12802
|
||
|
||
TS>Aarvarkagape.
|
||
.
|
||
Thank you. I will store that information away in the vastly unused
|
||
portion of my brain cells. I am certain that it will, one day, save
|
||
my life..... or that of an Aardvark.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Right!
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 12:30:41
|
||
Message Number 12803
|
||
|
||
Yes, Turtle is ALWAYS right. It IS his board, He DOES have his finger
|
||
poised above the delete user list Y/N. No, no. Just kidding. Turtle is
|
||
consistantly correct. I
|
||
I'd love to catch him JUST ONCE. "DING!"
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Barbara Dare
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 12:33:57
|
||
Message Number 12804
|
||
|
||
Why shocked? Why surprised? Surely you don't watch porno flicks ALONE do
|
||
you????? Heh Heh....(sly grin)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Plastic people
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 12:35:27
|
||
Message Number 12805
|
||
|
||
JB>Ain't it terrible when ya try to be warm and they interpret it as
|
||
hot to go?
|
||
.
|
||
It's embarrassing. It's made me hesitate to be myself around people I
|
||
don't know.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Workshops
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 12:43:07
|
||
Message Number 12807
|
||
|
||
How's that gonna help you in the courtroom? How are they going to get
|
||
you there? Supeona(sp?) to Turtle. Location: Alter Reality. Nah, don't
|
||
think it would happen....,
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Bass
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 12:44:46
|
||
Message Number 12808
|
||
|
||
T>Actually, I don't play the bass..... I do play drums.....
|
||
.
|
||
Well, you played the bass drum, didn't ya???? Why stalled? Styx broke??
|
||
I used to play the drums, too. Nothing fancy but I can keep a beat.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: "Slapped"
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 12:47:34
|
||
Message Number 12809
|
||
|
||
Yes, I understand now. I have been out of the "dating game" for quite a
|
||
while but I see some of my friends struggling out there in the dark.
|
||
Most of them tend to plunge headlong into relationships without a second
|
||
thought. Maybe they should call this board, eh? Get educated. "Calling
|
||
Dr. Turtle-------The LOVE Broker."
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Aardvarkians!!
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 12:50:15
|
||
Message Number 12810
|
||
|
||
T>They (Aardvarks) do make a mean sandwich...
|
||
.
|
||
Did you see Steel Magnolias? You just have to see the Grooms Cake in the
|
||
movie. It was shaped like an Armadillo. Grey icing and blood red cake.
|
||
Too funny to be gross.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Plastic money
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 12:52:04
|
||
Message Number 12811
|
||
|
||
T>I don't do credit cards.......
|
||
Oh, you sensible, responcible person, you. I, too, have seen the light.
|
||
Credit cards are the root of all evil.........
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Loving people
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 12:53:33
|
||
Message Number 12812
|
||
|
||
T>...so what's so annoying about being right??
|
||
.
|
||
Nothing if I'm the one who's right!!!!!!! (sigh), a rare event in here.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Barbara Dare
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 12:54:45
|
||
Message Number 12813
|
||
|
||
Well produced porno flicks..... Yes, they are making them better. Anothe
|
||
thing they are doing, is reprinting the assnine old ones with new covers
|
||
especially when one of the actors or actresses have gotten "big" since.
|
||
As far as Hustler goes, the content is raunch. You are right (grrrr,
|
||
there you go again) about Playboy. The articles adress a wide variety
|
||
of subjects, least of all.....sex. Sad? Hey, if someone buys the mag
|
||
for the pictures and ends up reading the articles (provided that they
|
||
CAN read), then all the better, eh?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: Scandalized
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 13:00:30
|
||
Message Number 12814
|
||
|
||
Why is it different if men do it(flirting)? I was being sarcastic when
|
||
I said that I supposed it was different. That's why I said "Awk, double
|
||
standards! The only difference I can come up with is that when men flirt
|
||
it's up to them to take it the step further. When a woman flirts, some
|
||
one might misinterpret(sp?) it and make a move on her. I only flirt with
|
||
people I know......, or, as on the boards, it'd be kind of hard to put
|
||
the move on me.... I can always log off if I didn't like it. Does this
|
||
make sense??
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: Barbara Dare
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 13:05:01
|
||
Message Number 12815
|
||
|
||
What does "I don't what do you care?" mean??? I like Barbara Dare's new
|
||
films. I like Ron Jeremy....., Cassie Nova is ok.. Not "up" on all the
|
||
names, but I know the anatomy, (heh, heh) and the faces. I hereby remove
|
||
the curse from you, Scott......you pervert. Or should that be "fellow
|
||
pervert"?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: KNIGHT OWL
|
||
Subject: A.C.O.A.
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 13:12:05
|
||
Message Number 12817
|
||
|
||
Yes, I am the youngest. My sisters remember when my Dad was not drunk
|
||
ALL the time. I can't remember him not drinking. When I was a pre-teen,
|
||
I realized for the first time that NOT everybodies Father was a drunk.
|
||
I used to follow him down to the bar and beg him not to go. It would
|
||
make him mad, to say the least. Now I realize that he was mad because
|
||
my begging made him feel guilty. He worked on job sites (like disney
|
||
world) so he would be gone for weeks at a time. Sometimes, the paychecks
|
||
never made it home. I used to hate him for making my mother suffer and
|
||
struggle.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: TIBERIUS
|
||
Subject: How not to
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 13:15:27
|
||
Message Number 12818
|
||
|
||
Ah, "you wear your sunglasses at night........"
|
||
"Go get yourself some cheap sunglasses......"
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Drums
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 16:49:44
|
||
Message Number 12822
|
||
|
||
Hey I used to play the drums, too. I had to sell my kit before I moved
|
||
to Florida three and a half years ago. Bummer. I miss playing but I
|
||
still practice on whatever is handy. I had a Pearl kit with Ludwig
|
||
hardware, and Zildjian cymbals.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Plastic money
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 16:52:10
|
||
Message Number 12823
|
||
|
||
SA> Credit cards are the root of all evil....
|
||
|
||
No shit. I'm up to my ass in credit card bills. At a whoppy 20%
|
||
interest. Citibank and others have not mercy.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Scandalized
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 16:54:33
|
||
Message Number 12824
|
||
|
||
Yep. Please don't log off, I enjoy our conversations. Besides I think
|
||
it's cool to have a woman's opinion, which is desparately needed
|
||
around here.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Barbara Dare
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 16:57:42
|
||
Message Number 12825
|
||
|
||
Yes, "fellow pervert." "I don't what do you care?" That was a typo,
|
||
big time. It was suppose to read, "I know, what do you care?" In
|
||
other words, what would you care if I thought Ginger Lynn was
|
||
gorgeous? I mean, unless you were bi-sexual.(?) hehe (WIDE perverted
|
||
smile)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: GROUCHO
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Give God agin
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 19:03:48
|
||
Message Number 12830
|
||
|
||
Turtle > Burning Bushes ..... I don't think so.
|
||
|
||
Maybe not a burning bush, but if you were to write of an experience
|
||
where you had the clap ..... what would a future generation think of
|
||
the things you had written, when the "frame of reference" was gone.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: GROUCHO
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Observations
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 19:11:26
|
||
Message Number 12831
|
||
|
||
In reading several of the messages to and from you, I was wondering
|
||
whether you have ever watched little kids interacting. I see a much
|
||
more "natural" series of interactions. Those that are not based
|
||
on the stuff we are programmed with as we progress. Wouldn't it
|
||
be nice if adults could act more like kids in this respect? Certainly
|
||
there are enough childish adults ..... just read some of the messages
|
||
here on Turtle's board .....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: Drums
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 20:31:17
|
||
Message Number 12834
|
||
|
||
Zildjian cymbals!! The best. I like Ludwig too. I used to have a old
|
||
black vinyl set of Ludwigs....OLD< OLD. I used to break more sticks
|
||
hitting the rims.... I always wanted to learn the guitar but (sigh) I
|
||
haven't the patience and it hurts my fingers!!!!!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: Plastic money
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 20:33:18
|
||
Message Number 12835
|
||
|
||
SS: Citibank and other have not mercy.
|
||
None whatsoever!!! But Discovery card gives you $$$$ back. Wow, I got
|
||
a whole 6 cents last year!!!!!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: Scandalized
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 20:34:39
|
||
Message Number 12836
|
||
|
||
Log off???? Me???? Not on your life, Darlin'. I love it here.... I'm
|
||
in here twice a day, sometimes more! Without Alter Reality, my brain
|
||
would turn to Mush!!!! Besides, I'd miss Turtle always being right. It
|
||
keeps me in my place.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: Barbara Dare
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 20:36:37
|
||
Message Number 12837
|
||
|
||
Dear "Fellow Pervert". Saavik? Bi-Sexual? Not in this life time. I like
|
||
men too much. And what do I care???? I think Ginger Lynn is sexy too.
|
||
So is Barbara Dare..., but when I watch a porn flick, I'm not paying too
|
||
much attention to the women, if ya know what I mean.....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: A.C.O.A.
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 20:38:45
|
||
Message Number 12838
|
||
|
||
I am sorry that your mother was so hard to deal with. Men need strong
|
||
female (role molels? wrong word but you know what I mean) when they
|
||
are young. The men I know that get along best with women are the ones
|
||
who had good relationships with sisters and/or their mother.
|
||
My father was too drunk to play mind games, thank god. He didn't just
|
||
drink a little and get nasty...., he drank so much, he couldn't stand
|
||
up. Every night..... same old thing. It was rotten but it would have
|
||
been worse if he were a "mean drunk".
|
||
Manipulation breeds mistrust, as you well know. But do you find that
|
||
you are drawn to manipulating women because of it??? I've heard this
|
||
l
|
||
from other men. They didn't get along with their mothers, yet they ended
|
||
up with women who were somehow like their moms. Same goes for women.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SAAVIK
|
||
To: GROUCHO
|
||
Subject: Observations
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 20:46:47
|
||
Message Number 12839
|
||
|
||
Yes, I have watched children interact. I have two little ones myself.
|
||
They may be "natural" but children tend to think in the "me" mode.
|
||
"What can this toy do for Me?" Sharing, for instance, is learned.....
|
||
not natural. Thank the Gods that we are creatures who learn as we grow.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Freindship
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 21:03:58
|
||
Message Number 12840
|
||
|
||
JB>Thing [think?] about how little a value you just put on a
|
||
JB>friendship.
|
||
|
||
All friendships are transitory. Period. Everybody you know, and
|
||
that means EVERYBODY, is someday going to be only a memory. So,
|
||
why bother?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Book
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 21:05:52
|
||
Message Number 12841
|
||
|
||
Great! Maybe it'll give me an insight into what you may be thinking
|
||
that *I'm* thinking.
|
||
|
||
If Turtle goes for the idea, good...I'll pick it up after work whenever
|
||
is convenient for him.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: GROUCHO
|
||
Subject: Killer Instinct
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 21:08:11
|
||
Message Number 12842
|
||
|
||
Hello, homophobes are us...
|
||
|
||
Way ta go, Groucho...you just pressed my button. Lemme set you straight
|
||
on one thing before I continue...I am not a homophobe. This is not
|
||
open for debate; don't bother to contest it.
|
||
|
||
I do advocate personal freedom. If I didn't, I would be out actively
|
||
campaigning to have homos put away for thier particular mental defect.
|
||
|
||
If my tirades amuse you, then so be it...at least you won't "go off"
|
||
with blathing nonsense about "They are people too (yes, but sick ones)
|
||
You are a homophobe (more utter nonsense) or any of the other generic
|
||
phrases that "enlightened" (meaning people who don't know what sick is)
|
||
people routinely use at me.
|
||
|
||
As for what type of upbringing, one that was strict. My familiy doesn't
|
||
have a lot of emotional scenes, and "love" is acknowledged but not
|
||
often discussed. I was told not to cry, which suits me anyway, because
|
||
in school, it wasn't much of an asset. My father knows that homos are
|
||
sick, most of the people I know believe the same way. (Not that my
|
||
father had much of an influence on me, because he aslo hates blacks. I
|
||
am pretty ambivalent.)
|
||
|
||
Amusing enough? Fine. Don't bother to reply.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: <Continuing>
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 21:19:28
|
||
Message Number 12843
|
||
|
||
SS>Just for the record, I skipped over all that /junk/ and I mean /junk/
|
||
T>if you didn't read it, you have no right to respond to it...or even
|
||
T>to call it "junk".
|
||
|
||
Nicely put! I also like the way you ignored the rest of his message.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: The Band
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 21:21:04
|
||
Message Number 12844
|
||
|
||
T>There was talk about starting a band...but it seems to have stalled.
|
||
|
||
Well, I met the Lead Guitar...and I really feel like an ameteur next to
|
||
this guy...he is GOOD.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Plastic money
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 21:22:38
|
||
Message Number 12845
|
||
|
||
T>I don't do credit cards. If I can't afford it now, I can't afford it.
|
||
|
||
Ah, again...nicely put! I agree 100%; I follow the same rule.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: <Starting>
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 21:26:04
|
||
Message Number 12846
|
||
|
||
Ok, I understand a little better...but let me pose a question to you.
|
||
Knowing that we cannot change the govnt, and if we did then we would
|
||
be no better than Hussien, do you still want to see Hussein gone? If
|
||
so, then we would have to restore the previous govnt and hope that they
|
||
can by themselves get thier act together.
|
||
The situation you described to me would be ideal, obviously. But It
|
||
Ain't Gonna Happen in the near future. So, we have a choice...get rid
|
||
of Hussien or not get rid of Hussien (the govnt restored not
|
||
withstanding). Because obviously, the man has *got* to go. Now,
|
||
liberating Kuwait on the way is a fringe benifit, obviously the people
|
||
were not being treated as badly before as they are now. (It's a
|
||
relative thing.)
|
||
|
||
What do you tbink would have happened in the Arab world if Hussein were
|
||
assassinated? Not in Iraq or Kuwait, what would have happened there is
|
||
not what I was asking. What would have been the Arab's reaction?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: What does it
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 21:31:59
|
||
Message Number 12847
|
||
|
||
TS>Need some help?
|
||
|
||
T>What are you doing Saturday morning?
|
||
|
||
Helping a prospecive Femme Companion move. But JB already vetoed the
|
||
idea. And I don't know Wratt anyway....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: Plastic people
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 21:35:44
|
||
Message Number 12848
|
||
|
||
SS>Hugs, yes I know, a firm handshake and maybe a hand on the shoulder
|
||
SS>what constitute a hug to you.
|
||
|
||
Gimme a break. I just need my personal space...and I don't want to be
|
||
touched, that's all.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: Theragram
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 21:36:58
|
||
Message Number 12849
|
||
|
||
TS>Gimme a break...
|
||
SS>Ok, hold out your neck.
|
||
|
||
[Obligingly holds out neck...]
|
||
|
||
SS>(Stole joke from the Specialist)
|
||
SS>So he gets the credit for that joke.)
|
||
|
||
Thank you! Finally I get credit...y'know, I actually *do* have
|
||
a sense of humor. Well, I did, Scott borrowed it about a year and a
|
||
half ago and I haven't seen it since....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: <Continuing>
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 21:39:44
|
||
Message Number 12850
|
||
|
||
SS>you were just reiterating your position again. Which you and the
|
||
SS>Specialist like to do....over and over gaihn.
|
||
|
||
And once again we have to listen to you grouse about it...so once again
|
||
I reply to you...
|
||
|
||
|
||
Butt out.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: Barbara Dare
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 21:41:03
|
||
Message Number 12851
|
||
|
||
T>[didn't look at the Playboy pictures]
|
||
SS>Are your hormones working right?
|
||
|
||
Must be. You heard what Beatle said, he's a real "babe magnet".
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: carbs
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 21:42:15
|
||
Message Number 12852
|
||
|
||
SS> I helped changed the engine out in his Dodge, you know.
|
||
|
||
Yes, and you were very helpfull. Thank you. A lot.
|
||
|
||
(Very helpful...critical! Couldn't have done it without him!!)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Jerks
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 21:45:27
|
||
Message Number 12854
|
||
|
||
S>I remember he had big muscles and a dark tan and a deep voice.
|
||
|
||
Nope. Not the guy I know...though he already sounds like the exact
|
||
image of a full breed asshole. Talks cocky and looks like an Adonis.
|
||
I hate that kind of guy, because he's big enough to get away with it.
|
||
Just burns me up....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Aardvarkians!!
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 21:47:40
|
||
Message Number 12855
|
||
|
||
Welcome.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Right!
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 21:48:08
|
||
Message Number 12856
|
||
|
||
S>I'd love to catch him just once.
|
||
|
||
Ding.
|
||
|
||
I have, though. He's dead wrong about homos.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Barbara Dare
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 21:48:54
|
||
Message Number 12857
|
||
|
||
S>Why shocked? Why suprised? Surely you don't watch porno flicks
|
||
S>ALONE do you? ...(sly grin)
|
||
|
||
Actually, I don't remember the last time I sat down and watched a porno
|
||
flick, period. Which is not suprising, considering I've been takinga
|
||
vacation from women in general since I broke up with my last girlfriend,
|
||
and even then I didn't watch them, because she was religious. And
|
||
even before then, I was taking a vacation (I tend to do this between
|
||
girlfriends; that way I forget why I wanted to break up...) from the
|
||
PREVIOUS girlfriend...so it's been QUITE a while since I saw one....
|
||
|
||
I guess my fav would be Hypatia Lee, though....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Carbs
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 22:52:28
|
||
Message Number 12861
|
||
|
||
T> ...say, you know anything about automatic trannies? Hers is starting
|
||
T> to slip between second and third...
|
||
|
||
Best thing to do in case it slips is try changing the fluid and replacin
|
||
with fresh along with a can of AT conditioner which kinda coats the
|
||
bands and makes 'em "stickier". Aside from that it's rebuild city -
|
||
I CAN say stay the hell away from the bandits at AAMCO.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: carbs
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 22:55:08
|
||
Message Number 12862
|
||
|
||
T> Well, hell. Here I go and say "Sure, c'mon over," and you nix it.
|
||
|
||
Well shoot - it's just that I have always firmly believed (and had
|
||
numerous proofs) that "too many hands spoil the <fill in blank>". I
|
||
tend to stand back when the mechanical Rambo's of the world start
|
||
charging in so I wouldn't be in the way long... 'course at that
|
||
point I'm an innocent bystander and just watch. I guess I probably
|
||
don't need Lori's book - we'll play it by ear (strange vision of
|
||
a man with a carburetor jammed in ear blowing on air cleaner just
|
||
wafted by my warped minds eye). See ya Saturday noonish.
|
||
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: carbs
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 23:01:01
|
||
Message Number 12863
|
||
|
||
SS> Hey, I have a sick '78 Chevette. Won't start, won't
|
||
SS> run - want to take a look?
|
||
|
||
Shoot the poor bastard and let it take it chances that it will return
|
||
with a "Corv" on the name instead of "Chev".
|
||
|
||
A transcendental resurrected recycled JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: Barbara Dare
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 23:03:18
|
||
Message Number 12864
|
||
|
||
SA> Are is your hormones working right?
|
||
|
||
Now wait a minnit! I'll admit that the babes are not that hard to look
|
||
at (and they apparently don't mind) but if I pay the kind of money that
|
||
Playboy asks - there had damned well better be some info under the
|
||
covers <snurk> besides paper fantasies. So what is the fascination
|
||
with pictures of nude babes? I have nudes of most of my girlfriends
|
||
that I took (being a photographer) but they actually mean something to
|
||
me and are not up for public display and I seldom even drag them out.
|
||
Secondary stimulation just don't get it for this kid - I wanna touch,
|
||
talk, joke and share.
|
||
A non-paper tiger JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: GROUCHO
|
||
Subject: Observations
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 23:13:28
|
||
Message Number 12865
|
||
|
||
GR>Wouldn't it be nice if adults could act more like kids in this
|
||
GR> respect?
|
||
|
||
Anyone who believes in the fundamental goodness of man has never
|
||
watched a child play...
|
||
Mark Twain
|
||
|
||
I'm with my hero and inspiration on this one. Absolutely noone can be
|
||
as cruel and insensitive as a child. Read any good Piaget lately?
|
||
Most of a childs interactions are a result of them externalizing
|
||
their understanding of the world and thereby reinforcing those
|
||
understandings. Trick is when the understandings are faulty as they
|
||
are bound to be when treading on the new ground of interpersonal
|
||
relationships. I'd rather try and relate to an old person that has
|
||
finally realized that it just doesn't matter worth a damn in the long
|
||
run.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Freindship
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 23:20:11
|
||
Message Number 12866
|
||
|
||
TS> that means EVERYBODY, is someday going to be only a memory. So,
|
||
TS> why bother?
|
||
|
||
That's pretty heavy Dave. It actually has a grain of truth in it too
|
||
but... when all things are relative you still end up with the hate of
|
||
an enemy on one end of the scale and the love of a friend on the other
|
||
and you assign a value to these realtionships - or have you just
|
||
decided that you won't have any of those of any kind? If you have ever
|
||
experienced the joy of a true friend it isn't something that you can
|
||
cast off lightly. Of course - there isn't hardly a worse pain than
|
||
a friendship betrayed either. I just went through one of those but -
|
||
maybe we'll talk about it over a beer sometime. I still would not
|
||
hesitate to do it again just for the years of joy that the friendship
|
||
involved.
|
||
A pained-but-alive JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: The Band
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 23:26:52
|
||
Message Number 12867
|
||
|
||
TS> Well, I met the Lead Guitar...and I really feel like an ameteur next
|
||
TS> this guy...he is GOOD.
|
||
|
||
Whose this? I sem to remember someone else that said he played lead
|
||
but my memory is going...
|
||
JonBoy on Toast
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: What does it
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 23:28:43
|
||
Message Number 12868
|
||
|
||
TS> But JB already vetoed the idea. And I don't know Wratt anyway....
|
||
|
||
Whoa hoss! I wouldn't call that a veto and I sure as heck ain't
|
||
gonna say no. I merely made the observation that too many hands
|
||
that are actually in the game can screw it up. So I pin your hand to
|
||
Turtle's table with a phillips screwdriver for dropping the checkball
|
||
to the accelerator pump. You'll get over it and blood dries to a
|
||
lovely rusty color on the carpet... You could drop by to pick up the
|
||
book and say howdy...
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Barbara Dare
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 23:33:58
|
||
Message Number 12869
|
||
|
||
TS> I was taking a vacation (I tend to do this between girlfriends;
|
||
|
||
Huh - me too - I guess you just have to wait until a buildup of
|
||
hormones finally overcomes your better sense!
|
||
|
||
A cynical-JonBoy
|
||
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those
|
||
who don't possess it...
|
||
George Bernard Shaw
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: <Continuing>
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 23:42:55
|
||
Message Number 12870
|
||
|
||
>You were just reiterating your position, again.
|
||
|
||
No, I was explaining why I have that position, what things led me
|
||
to that conclusion, and under what circumstances I would change my
|
||
position. If you didn't read the message, don't be responding to it
|
||
like you know what you're talking about.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: Playboy
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 23:44:28
|
||
Message Number 12871
|
||
|
||
>Are your hormones working right?
|
||
|
||
Well, I think they are...haven't had any complaints recently, anyway.
|
||
So call me easily distracted...the articles distract me from the pics.
|
||
(Like pictures of nude women are anything terribly special to begin
|
||
with...)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: <Starting>
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 23:46:04
|
||
Message Number 12872
|
||
|
||
>Like I said, over and over and over again.
|
||
|
||
Yes, you DO keep saying it over and over and over again...and I bet you
|
||
still haven't read what you're replying to.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
Subject: carbs
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 23:46:59
|
||
Message Number 12873
|
||
|
||
Gods below, how many people who call A/R does it take to rebuild a
|
||
carburetor??
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Right!
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 23:50:48
|
||
Message Number 12874
|
||
|
||
>I'd love to catch him JUST ONCE.
|
||
|
||
No doubt. *smirk* Well, it's been known to happen...........
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Bass
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 23:53:38
|
||
Message Number 12875
|
||
|
||
>Well, you played the bass drum, didn't ya????
|
||
|
||
Yak! Well, in a manner of speaking, I guess it's a bass, kinda,
|
||
maybe...but it doesn't have strings. Neither does it deal too well
|
||
with seaweed.
|
||
|
||
>Why stalled? Styx broke?
|
||
|
||
No, me broke. Me no can afford a drum kit of my own, and the person who
|
||
owned one that I used no longer lives in the same city as I do. It's
|
||
been years and years and years and years...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Dr. Turtle???
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 23:56:18
|
||
Message Number 12876
|
||
|
||
>Maybe they should call this board, eh? Get educated. "Calling Dr.
|
||
>Turtle------The LOVE Broker."
|
||
|
||
Oh, good. Just what I need. More ammunition for the malpractice suits--
|
||
and isn't that love broker bit illegal in this state? Yep, sounds like
|
||
a great plan...we'll have the ol' reptile in prison yet. Nah,
|
||
Social Darwinism works better...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Aardvarkians!!
|
||
Date & Time: 02/26/91 23:58:55
|
||
Message Number 12877
|
||
|
||
S>T>They (Aardvarks) do make a mean sandwich...
|
||
|
||
That ought to be "They (Greeks) do make a mean sandwich..."
|
||
|
||
Nope, never saw "Steel Magnolias." I make a point to steer away from
|
||
anything that puts Meryl Streep and Shirley the Loon--er, Maclain
|
||
in the same screen at the same time. Besides, it didn't have starships,
|
||
people with large automatic weapons, swordplay, eccentric geniuses
|
||
flooding college dorms with liquid nitrogen, or any of the other things
|
||
that make a movie worth watching, so what's the point?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Plastic money
|
||
Date & Time: 02/27/91 00:04:24
|
||
Message Number 12878
|
||
|
||
>Oh, you sensible, responcible person, you.
|
||
|
||
Stop that. I pride myself on being the paragon of irresponsibility.
|
||
I'm certain The Specialist would be willing to attest to that point,
|
||
if for no other reason than he loves picking out my character flaws,
|
||
real and imagined.
|
||
|
||
>I, too have seen the light.
|
||
|
||
The Way of the Aardvark?
|
||
|
||
>Credit cards are the root of all evil......
|
||
|
||
Jesse Helms is the root of all evil.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Playboy
|
||
Date & Time: 02/27/91 00:08:58
|
||
Message Number 12879
|
||
|
||
Considering the caliber of the people who write for Playboy
|
||
(Isaac Asimov, Harlan Ellison, Paul Thereaux, Arthur C. Clarke),
|
||
anyone who buys Playboy and /doesn't/ read it ought to be executed
|
||
or at least branded a Philistine and sent to live in exile in
|
||
Plains, Georgia.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Scandalized
|
||
Date & Time: 02/27/91 00:11:35
|
||
Message Number 12880
|
||
|
||
>The only difference I can come up with is that when men flirt it's
|
||
>up to them to take it the step further.
|
||
|
||
Since when?? It's been my experience that women are just as capable as
|
||
men at "taking it the step further"--you mean you always expect that
|
||
to be the /man's/ job?? It takes two to tango, and either one can
|
||
lead...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: GROUCHO
|
||
Subject: Give God agin
|
||
Date & Time: 02/27/91 00:17:01
|
||
Message Number 12881
|
||
|
||
>...what would a future generation think of the things you had
|
||
>written, when the "frame of reference" was gone.
|
||
|
||
That one ought to get you, oh, five or six years in Purgatory... :)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Scandalized
|
||
Date & Time: 02/27/91 00:24:25
|
||
Message Number 12882
|
||
|
||
>Besides, I'd miss Turtle always being right. It keeps me in my
|
||
>place.
|
||
|
||
*snort*
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Men & Women
|
||
Date & Time: 02/27/91 00:27:59
|
||
Message Number 12883
|
||
|
||
>The men I know who get along best with women had the best
|
||
>relationships with a sister and/or mother...
|
||
|
||
Not me...I got along with dear old Mom but Sis and I hate one another
|
||
with a bloody passion. (I've broken her nose twice...) Like any other
|
||
learned skill, the ability to get along well with women does not /have/
|
||
to be learned at home. Slippery beasts, human beings. Always violating
|
||
generalities.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
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Subject: Friendship
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Date & Time: 02/27/91 00:31:00
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Message Number 12884
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|
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>So, why bother?
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Because it's still one of the most satisfying things you can possibly
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do? I used to be in hostile-aloof mode, but I am pretty damn glad I
|
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changed. Sure, friendships aren't permanent fixtures...but then again,
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neither is anything else. What's your point?
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From: TURTLE
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To: THE SPECIALIST
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Subject: Plastic money
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Date & Time: 02/27/91 00:33:39
|
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Message Number 12885
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>I agree 100%; I follow the same rule.
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AAAAIIIGGGHHH!!!! This is happening far, far too frequently lately.
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You noticed that?
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From: TURTLE
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To: THE SPECIALIST
|
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Subject: <Starting>
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Date & Time: 02/27/91 00:35:23
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Message Number 12886
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|
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>What do you tbink would have happened in the Arab world if
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>Hussein were assassinated?
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|
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Little that hasn't happened by the presence of a large U.S. military
|
||
force in the region to begin with. Either way, some of the extremists
|
||
are gonna be upset. I think in the long run a simple assassination would
|
||
be LESS irritating than the continual presence of U.S. troops, even for
|
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a brief while; after all, it wouldn't make for thousands of grieving
|
||
Iraquis with /personal/ vendettas against the good ol' U.S. of A.
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Given the choice, I would still like to see Hussein go bye-bye.
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|
||
I will say, though, I am happy the allied forces have been doing as well
|
||
as they have, and with as few casualties on the friendly side. If you
|
||
ARE going to pull a full-scale military action, might as well do it
|
||
right. While I don't agree with a lot fo the actions we've been taking
|
||
in that area of the world, I've been highly impressed with the way we've
|
||
been taking them.
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|
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From: TURTLE
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Personal space
|
||
Date & Time: 02/27/91 00:42:17
|
||
Message Number 12887
|
||
|
||
>I just need my personal space...and I don't want to be touched, that's
|
||
>all.
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||
|
||
I know where that one's coming from; I used to deck people who touched
|
||
me. Not any more, though--it's more fun sharing personal space
|
||
(at least with members of the opposite sex). More intimate
|
||
than sex with fewer problems.
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||
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|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: <Continuing>
|
||
Date & Time: 02/27/91 00:46:56
|
||
Message Number 12888
|
||
|
||
>...so once again I reply to you...
|
||
>
|
||
>Butt out.
|
||
|
||
Nicely said.
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|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Right!
|
||
Date & Time: 02/27/91 00:50:50
|
||
Message Number 12889
|
||
|
||
>I have, though. He's dead wrong about homos.
|
||
|
||
*snort* Dead wrong about what, not caring who they're sleeping with?
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||
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|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: carbs
|
||
Date & Time: 02/27/91 00:53:43
|
||
Message Number 12891
|
||
|
||
>...we'll play it by ear.
|
||
|
||
I have the thingie whatsit that came with the rebuild kit, but I
|
||
think it's in French and Japanese. You read Japanese?
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||
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|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Playboy & You
|
||
Date & Time: 02/27/91 00:57:31
|
||
Message Number 12892
|
||
|
||
>So what is the fascination with pictures of nude babes?
|
||
|
||
I know several artists who have what might be called a "professional
|
||
interest;" ditto for a couple of exotic dancers I know. Other than
|
||
that, I dunno. Frustration, mebbe?
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||
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|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: Let's Party!
|
||
Date & Time: 02/27/91 01:02:15
|
||
Message Number 12893
|
||
|
||
FURRY PARTY
|
||
F U R R Y P A R T Y
|
||
F U R R Y P A R T Y
|
||
-------------------------------
|
||
|
||
WHEN: Saturday, March 23rd, 1991.
|
||
WHERE: Turtle's apartment, 1895 Shadowood, on US 301 by the airport.
|
||
WHY: To kill two birds with one stone (to celebrate the occasion of
|
||
Turtle's birth, and to remedy the fact that it's been several
|
||
months since the last A/R Florida Furry Party).
|
||
WHAT: The usual--animation, conversation, juggling foxes, mayhem,
|
||
noise, rutabaga sacrifice, synchronized jumping...and hopefully
|
||
nobody's windows get shot out.
|
||
WHO: Any sapient being posessed of sufficient intelligence to be
|
||
able to use a language to communicate the idea that he, she, or
|
||
it is there voluntarily. The coercion committee will be
|
||
rounding up the guests of honor this time around.
|
||
|
||
Need further information? Drop a message. This furry party will probably
|
||
start at about 5 PM Saturday and end at 6 PM Sunday, or until the
|
||
police arrive, whichever shall be earlier. Mountain Dew cheerfully
|
||
provided.
|
||
|
||
May the Aardvark of Happiness lick your toes.
|
||
|
||
(c) 1990 Anarchy Now, Inc. An Anarchy Now, Inc. production. No
|
||
warranties expressed or implied.
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||
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|
||
|
||
From: KNIGHT OWL
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: A.C.O.A.
|
||
Date & Time: 02/27/91 01:30:19
|
||
Message Number 12894
|
||
|
||
S> I cannot remember him not drinking.
|
||
I didn't 'know' my dad straight either. I didn't learn 'til my early
|
||
teens that our family wasn't no That and the my health didn't mix
|
||
too well.
|
||
My parents used to go to 'Tim's bar, making my sister & I wait in the
|
||
car. Surprisingly, there were no accidents or DUI convictions at all.
|
||
|
||
The paychecks always made it home and we were well cared for ('cept for
|
||
the booze). Despite the alcoholism, My fathe cared about our welfare
|
||
(food, clothes, etc.).
|
||
|
||
Knowing now, what you've told me; I feel quite fortunate.
|
||
|
||
SEE YA!
|
||
Knight Owl
|
||
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|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Drums
|
||
Date & Time: 02/27/91 03:29:32
|
||
Message Number 12896
|
||
|
||
Yeah, I went through sticks like they were going out of style. I even
|
||
broke a cymbal once, a thin Zildjian crash. I'm presently taking
|
||
lessons on the guitar from the Specialist, who, I might add, is an
|
||
excellent guitar player. He just won't admitted it.
|
||
Do you have a set now?
|
||
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|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Plastic money
|
||
Date & Time: 02/27/91 03:31:45
|
||
Message Number 12897
|
||
|
||
Aaaawwwkkk, 6 cents! That's ridiculous.
|
||
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|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Scandalized
|
||
Date & Time: 02/27/91 03:32:40
|
||
Message Number 12898
|
||
|
||
Yeah, I log on twice a day too. That way I can keep up with the
|
||
messages. Hell, I logged on at 4:30 this afternoon and when I logged
|
||
back on now (3:32 am) I had sixty new messages to read. I don't even
|
||
want to think what I would face if I logged on once a day.
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||
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|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: Barbara Dare
|
||
Date & Time: 02/27/91 03:35:01
|
||
Message Number 12899
|
||
|
||
Yeah, I don't pay a whole lot of attention to the guys either...if ya
|
||
know what I mean...Yes, Barbara Dare is sexy, but not as sexy as Ginger.
|
||
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|
||
|
||
From: SCOTT STEEL
|
||
To: SAAVIK
|
||
Subject: A.C.O.A.
|
||
Date & Time: 02/27/91 03:37:00
|
||
Message Number 12900
|
||
|
||
Well, not at the outset. I mean I don't ask a girl if she's
|
||
manipulative. But I'd say about fifty percent of past girlfriend have
|
||
been.
|
||
I won't say what I've done to change that. hehehehe
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