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From: MAX
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To: THE SPECIALIST
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Subject: Laws of...
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 15:40:47
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Message Number 8001
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Reagan increased the deficit he "inherited" from 2 billion dollars to
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2 *TRILLION* dollars. Despite what Reagan would like you to believe,
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that can't be blamed on previous administrations. If he was so great
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at running things, he would have at least levelled off the sucker.
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While Carter killed a few defense programs, at least one of which he
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shouldn't have (the B-1), he hardly sent the military to hell in a
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handbasket. Reagan gave us new programs, all right -- the resurrected
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B-1, at about 10x the original cost and half the efficiency, the
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wonderful Bradley anti-tank gun that shot the reviewing stand on its
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first roll-out, the Abrams tank that can't fit on tank carriers, and
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personnel carriers that can be destroyed by a well-placed hand
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grenade. This is an improvement?
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
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To: MAX
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Subject: Reagan/Carter
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 17:14:28
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Message Number 8002
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Carter had one major fault, one which should have kept him
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permanently from the presidency: he was a genuinely nice guy. He
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actually was a born-again Christian who actually believed... (And to
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all you pagans out there, nyeeeh! The previous statement does not imply
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you're not nice... nor that all B.A.C.'s are. Just that Carter is.)
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Reagan on the other hand was... well, uh... not all there.
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C.P.U.
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
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To: SNAKEBYTE
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Subject: Animalism!
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 17:21:24
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Message Number 8003
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I regret to inform you that the term "animalism" has already been
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appropriated by George Orwell. ("Beasts of England, beasts of Ireland,
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beasts of every land and time/ Listen to this joyful singing of the
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golden future time...")
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Anyway, about cutting apart formaldehyde-laden animals in schools:
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do you have any better suggestions on how to teach anatomy, and make
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it stick?
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C.P.U.
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: Truth
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 17:24:35
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Message Number 8004
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What?!? Another Christian who believes similarly? Sheesh -- don't
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let the fundamentalists find you...
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Chip
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: Homosexuality
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 17:26:15
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Message Number 8005
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Knowing how this topic gets beaten to death...
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Pray tell, how can you know (aside from getting propositioned) what
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kind of sexuality a person is?
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C.P.U.
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From: TURTLE
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: inane lyrics
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 21:30:54
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Message Number 8007
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"Magic Man:" Good music, insipid lyrics. What a waste of musical talent.
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Jes' another example of the Led Zeppelin "Ramblin'" phenomenon at work,
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I guess...
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From: TURTLE
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To: THE SPECIALIST
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Subject: Laws of...
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 21:38:42
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Message Number 8008
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>The troops in Saudi Arabia are a coordinated, well formed fighting
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>force.
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The troops in Saudi Arabia are cannon fodder. Their point in life right
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now is to die noisily in an Iraqui invasion, to justify a massive
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counterstrike.
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>It took a Republican in office to get those in Iran to sit up and
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>reconsider...
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And now you do /them/ of all people an injustice. Toward the end they
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were just sitting tight so they could wait for a new President to
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release the hostages--saved face, and generated negative publicity for
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Carter, whom they simply didn't like. The new President was utterly
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irrelevant--it could've been Howdie Doodie (wait, it /was/ Howdie Doodie
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...it could've been, say, the Ti-Di Bowl Man) and the results would've
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been the same.
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From: TURTLE
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To: THE SPECIALIST
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Subject: Furrys
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 21:45:53
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Message Number 8009
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>A cat is a cat.
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Okay, let's start with that one. A cat is a quadraped; Reli is a biped.
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A cat has paws; Reli has hands. A cat does not have an opposing thumb;
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Reli does. Reli is a cat in exactly the same sense that you are a
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chimpanzee.
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>The thing that separates us [from chimpanzees]..is the # of chromosomes
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No, actually, it's the information coded on the chromosomes. I believe
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that humans and chimps have the same /number/ of 'em, but they're notr
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the same chromosomes.
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>If Reli could be crossed with a housecat...
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No. She is sufficiently different from cats to indicate that, genetic-
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ally speaking, she is not a cat.
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>...Reli could be crossed with a human...
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Again, almost certainly not. Reli is almost as different, genetically,
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from a human as she is from a cat.
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In any event, all of this is probably irrlelvant. I personally would
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say that the key ingredient in an act of bestiality is the fact that the
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non-human involved is a /beast/; ie, a non-sapient animal. Reli is no
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more a beast than George Bush, at least not in any sense of the word
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that really matters for this sort of thing.
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From: TURTLE
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To: THE SPECIALIST
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Subject: Laws of...
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 21:55:01
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Message Number 8010
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>Reagan INHERITED a large defecit.
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Reagan inherited a large defecit, and turned it into a staggering one.
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Under his wise leadership, the defecit increased over a hundredfold, and
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America went from being the largest creditor nation on earth to the
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largest debtor nation on earty. Yeah, Ronnie!
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>...built up our defenses after that LIBERAL Carter let them all go to
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>hell...
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...with such amazing peices of hardware as the B-1, the Amazing Bomber
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With No Mission That Flies Into The Ground. Ooooooooh boy, be still my
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heart. He also presided over the destruction of HUD and the country's
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S&L's, both of which had a lot of help from Reagan-era politicians,
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and evidently simply didn't care enough to do anything other than sit
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there with his thumb up his ass thinking "Gee, it's Thursday and so far
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this week only twelve of my political cronies have gone to jail. Good
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week!" Reagan presided over the most corrupt, disasterously inefficient,
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and naive Federal government this country has *EVER* seen.
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From: TURTLE
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To: BLACK MAGIC
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Subject: VH-4
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 22:00:32
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Message Number 8011
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>MY CAT DOES NOT LIKE YOU!
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He does. Last time I was over (and you weren't, I might add), he
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jumped into my lap and started purring like mad...I think he wants a
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new home.
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From: RUFUS
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To: KEN OBER
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Subject: cat
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 22:37:59
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Message Number 8012
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>the CRT's are the ones for Tennis
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Cathrode Ray Tubes must be real heavy. I wouldn't want to play tennis
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in 'em.
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From: RUFUS
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To: BEATLE
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Subject: Nuke Kids
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 22:43:20
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Message Number 8013
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> The point is: I don't want to be scum. I'm not scum.
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Beatle, you must admit that you are scum, then you will overcome your
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scum like life. Denial will do you no good.
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From: RUFUS
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To: BLACK MAGIC
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Subject: Ziggy
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 22:46:33
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Message Number 8014
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>SHoot......
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Is that shoot as in: "Darn, I have to give this dolt his three wishes,"
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or: "Okay, what are your three wishes [insert evil laugh]"?
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From: RUFUS
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: cat
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 22:51:54
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Message Number 8015
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>...stamp out ridiculous footwear!!!
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What do you define as "ridiculous footwear"? Other than pump
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shoes?
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From: RUFUS
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: VH-1
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 23:03:32
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Message Number 8016
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> - if you've seen and recognized a wood nymph -
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Of course, these wood nymphs were at the Bay Area Ren Fest... I'm just
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gonna stick my neck out, look stupid, and ask once again. What is the
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'wood nymph' look?
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: BLACK MAGIC
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Subject: S & M
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 23:32:06
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Message Number 8017
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BM>DON'T EVER refer to me as being a typical woman.
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Ok, then how about typcial young lady who says typical woman
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expressions. (Because you use an awful lot of them, you know!)
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BM>Don't test me on this on, either.
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No? (half suprised, half innocent smirk) Why not? Are you going to
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blast me with another "you heartless asshole" comment? Or perhaps,
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you'll use another of those typical woman expressions (you know, the
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one that involves me just dying or and saving everyone a lot of
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trouble, or something like that).
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You are SUCH FUN to TEASE!!! Let's keep this thread going for a
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LONG time.
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An Amused Specialist
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: ZOT GNOP
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Subject: Guitars
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 23:46:56
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Message Number 8019
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ZG>If I had been praising Bassists, [Geddy Lee] would have gotten
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ZG>special attention.
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Thank you...I feel a lot better. He is the best. Dunno who isthe
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best Lead, but I hear that Eddie Van Halen is really good.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: MAX
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Subject: Laws of...
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 23:50:10
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Message Number 8020
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MAX>You really do cherish your assumptions, don't you? No fact is going
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MAX>to get past your blinders, no siree.
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Nah, I understand what you meant. I just wanted to yank a few
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chains. (Sir.) Besides, what is more fun than leaping to
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conclusions?
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: MAX
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Subject: New fags on...
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 23:55:10
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Message Number 8021
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agreed.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: MAX
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Subject: How? You see,
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 23:57:06
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Message Number 8022
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Fine. If that's what you want to believe, then fine.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: MAX
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Subject: Laws of...
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Date & Time: 08/22/90 23:58:28
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Message Number 8023
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The things you cited, while not the best, are STILL better than
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nothing (which is what we would have had with a Democrat in office).
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As for increasing the debt, you tell me how you would have leveled it
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off. Taxing the hell out of people? Right, here we have a recovering
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ecomomy, lets tax the daylights out of it and see how long it takes to
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lapse back into it's comatose state. Come on, not a whole lot he could
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have done and still kept America running. (And with defenses.)
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: CHIP P. UNICORN
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Subject: Homosexuality
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Date & Time: 08/23/90 00:03:03
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Message Number 8024
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Chip! Glad you're back...sorry to have to respond to you on this
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note.
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There are certain tell-tale signs which by themselves mean nothing,
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but when all exibited at the same time indicate a possibility of
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what the sexual preference of the person in question might be. Now,
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it is also a feeling...like a hunch.
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I have been trying to keep out of this thread lately, and we
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(me & JonBoy) have mutually agreed not to discuss it between us.
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I got a lot of requests to drop the thread entirely. So, if that
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answers your question, I'd like to drop it...thanks....
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Laws of...
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Date & Time: 08/23/90 00:08:06
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Message Number 8025
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T>The troops in Saudi Arabia are cannon fodder.
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Manifest Bullshit (tm). Where do you getoff criticizing the talents and
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skills of America's armed forces? Have you ever seen wht they can do?
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I think that I am qualified to say that they can and will kick ass.
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American troops are better trained, better equiped, and have better
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resources and inteligence than any other army in the world. If you
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think that they are there just to be cannon fodder, then you had better
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wake up and smell the coffee. Iraq will loose, and Hussien knows it.
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And you had better become cognizant of that fact, too...instead of
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deluding yourself otherwise.
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And Carter and his Democrat congress sat around with thier thumbs up
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thier arses until we got a new pres in.... Don't try to pass it off.
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Raven! Some Toxic Shock for this man!
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Furrys
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Date & Time: 08/23/90 00:14:51
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Message Number 8026
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T>...information coded ont he chromosomes...
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Ok, thank you...I stand corrected.
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If Reli is not a cat and Reli is not a human, then she would probably
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qualify as an entirely different lifeform...according to Max,
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sex with her could not produce offspring. (And we all know what that
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means!) But...she's female...but...oh, hell.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Laws of...
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Date & Time: 08/23/90 00:19:44
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Message Number 8027
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As for the deficit and defenses, see my message to Max.
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T>Reagan presided over the most corrupt...blah, blah...ect, babble...
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Unless you count Nixon...who was "not a thief."
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From: TURTLE
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To: RUFUS
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Subject: cat
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Date & Time: 08/23/90 00:38:21
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Message Number 8028
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Ridiculous footwear: Pump shoes, spike heels, tennis shoes with those
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velcro thingies that hold 'em shut (you know, the ones that stop working
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as soon as they get dirty), any shoe that takes over ten minutes to put
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on or take off, and anything that comes past your knee.
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From: TURTLE
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To: THE SPECIALIST
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Subject: inane lyrics
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Date & Time: 08/23/90 00:40:41
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Message Number 8029
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>Ford 462...
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...Ford 390, which they stopped making very quickly 'cause the heads
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warp every time someone looks crosseyed at 'em and they have chronic
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head gasket problems...but hey, they were powerful engines!
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>MOPAR RULES
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Mopar /ruled/. Haven't made anything worth the powder it'd take to blow
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it to Hell in years.
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From: TURTLE
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To: THE SPECIALIST
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Subject: Laws of...
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Date & Time: 08/23/90 00:42:53
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Message Number 8030
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>...nothing...Democrat in office...
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How silly of me. I forgot that unilateral disarmament was an official
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Democratic position. Give it a rest: Reagan's expensive disasters are
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worse than useless. The Bradley will never see action, so it can't
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possibly be better than nothing by definition, but at least it cost us
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a few billion dollars.
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>...not a whole lot he could have done...
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...it was totally inevidable that the defecit would increase a /hundred/
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times and nobody could stop it? Uh-huh.
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No offense, Sir, but you seem to be thinking with the wrong head again.
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Ever occur to you that all the Republican porpaganda you've been
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listening to is bullshit? Really, you pay far too much attention to
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those election mailings.
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From: TURTLE
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To: THE SPECIALIST
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Subject: Laws of...
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Date & Time: 08/23/90 00:47:00
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Message Number 8031
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Of /course/ we would win a conflict with Iraq. They're in a position
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that's a logistical nightmare--fighting a desert war with supply lines
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that cut across a recently subjegated nation, no economic base to
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support a prolongued war effort, an army plagued by aging and obsolete
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equipment, surrounded by hostile neighbors...I did not mean to imply
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we couldn't, er, "kick their asses." What I was trying to say is that
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the function of the front-line Army units currently stationed on the
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Saudi border is to act as a human tripwire. They could not withstand the
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initial thrust of an invasion; they would die dramatically and provide
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the catalyst for a popular counterattack. Nothing personal against
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any of 'em, but they're horribly outnumbered and in the SHORT RUN that's
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what counts.
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From: TURTLE
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To: THE SPECIALIST
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Subject: Laws of...
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Date & Time: 08/23/90 00:51:48
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Message Number 8032
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Nixon presided over a corrupt government. However, Nixon didn't end up
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with a significant number of his underlings in jail, Nixon didn't
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preside over the sort of open, flagrant criminality that went on in all
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levels of Reagan's government and even involved entire institutions and
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industries...and Nixon knew selective expenditure. Reagan, your personal
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hero and god of the "strong defense" (the overriding consideration that
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will, to a conservative, excuse absolutely ANYTHING) gave money to every
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schmuck that walked up to him and said "I have this great idea for a
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neat new weapon that'll let America kick them Commie asses! Gimme a few
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billion and I'll prove it!" As a result, we ended up with piles of crap
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in our armories (like the missile guidance systems that were supposed to
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end up in the MX that can't tell Moscow from Des Moines), no money in
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the defense budget, airplanes that fly into the ground, three hundred
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dollar toilet seats, flammable armored personel carriers that go up
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like Roman candles when some dipshit with a grenade wanders by...
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Boy, that Reagan. Strong Defense. I bet our various opponents on the
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world stage would like to see him in charge of defense for about ten
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more years.
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Keep the faith!
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From: BLACK MAGIC
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: VH-4
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Date & Time: 08/23/90 01:16:06
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Message Number 8034
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NOT! My cat loves no one but me! And don't you ever forget that, Mr. T
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urtle...
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....The Lady
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From: BLACK MAGIC
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To: RUFUS
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Subject: Ziggy
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Date & Time: 08/23/90 01:17:18
|
||
Message Number 8035
|
||
|
||
Hehehehehe...I give.
|
||
Lacey
|
||
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|
||
|
||
From: YNGLING
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: Lacey
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 15:42:13
|
||
Message Number 8038
|
||
|
||
Dearest,
|
||
Dont you pay attention to the Mailchecker when you log on? Its right
|
||
there in amber and black, or lime green and black, or whatever...:)
|
||
The Yngling
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: YNGLING
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: Heinlein
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 15:44:09
|
||
Message Number 8039
|
||
|
||
>I'm in shock
|
||
Hmmm...should I start with the mouth-to-mouth or the chest compressions?
|
||
Decisions, decisions...and who would have guessed that I'd actually be
|
||
/glad/ I had to take those stupid health classes in high school or that
|
||
CPR could be fun? ;>
|
||
The Yngling
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: YNGLING
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: footware
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 15:58:46
|
||
Message Number 8040
|
||
|
||
>ridiculous footware...anything that comes past your knee
|
||
Oh great, now, every time I go flycasting in some freezing stream, I'll
|
||
be all self-concious about how ridiculous my waders are...man, its get-
|
||
ting to where you can't do anything anymore w/o violating some fashion
|
||
code........
|
||
The Yngling
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: ZOT GNOP
|
||
Subject: Your daughter
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 16:45:30
|
||
Message Number 8041
|
||
|
||
RE: Zot Gnop the Morally Corrupt
|
||
Did you know that William F. Buckley's favorite feature in
|
||
SmartKey is the ability to write "Ted Kennedy is morally bankrupt"
|
||
with one keystroke? Today's software for today's conservative.
|
||
THRUD
|
||
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|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: MAX
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 17:01:50
|
||
Message Number 8042
|
||
|
||
Damn! Openmindedness! Ain't that something! (Not a personal bash,
|
||
just unusual for this thread) Ya, putting all the conservative and
|
||
liberal BS aside, I think (hope) George is the best guy available.
|
||
Damn, gotta go, will finish later.....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: MAX
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 17:28:00
|
||
Message Number 8044
|
||
|
||
Gramm-Rudman would have gone a fairly long way to stopping the deficit.
|
||
If it had been implemented correctly, the deficit would have levelled
|
||
off by now. If it had been implemented correctly near the beginning of
|
||
Reagan's administration, it would have been reducing the deficit by
|
||
now.
|
||
There is an IMMENSE amount of waste in the federal government. Do
|
||
you realize that the amount of money spent by all the government
|
||
branches just PROCESSING FORMS is greater than the GNP of most of the
|
||
world's countries? A lot of it was in the defense department, and
|
||
still is. Reagan built up our defenses, all right, but he did it by
|
||
saying "sure, go ahead" to any contractor who tried to sell the gov't
|
||
anything. If the DoD ROUTINELY pays over $800 for a PAIR OF PLIERS --
|
||
which is what they have been charged by some companies for Milspec
|
||
tools -- apply the same proportional waste to, say, the Stealth bomber
|
||
bomber program, and realize that we've bought about 60 of them. One
|
||
of those bombers costs MORE than the budget of every environmental
|
||
agency in the Federal government put together... and they're already
|
||
effectively obsolete (technological advances in Soviet military combined
|
||
with the fact that the specific missions they're designed for are
|
||
unlikely to be necessary now that they're not likely to be used against
|
||
the Soviets when/if they go into combat makes them fast B-52's with
|
||
about 20% of the B-52's payload capacity). Now figure that that entire
|
||
program is an insignificant part of the DoD budget.
|
||
If we revamped our defense system, we could not only make it MORE
|
||
effective for the types of combat it's likely to go into in the future
|
||
(guerilla tactics or armies like Hussein's, large but technologically
|
||
less than impressive, and chem/bio weapons instead of nuclear ones), we
|
||
could probably spend about 50% what we're spending now. Cutting lots of
|
||
programs may not be a good answer, but neither is writing blank
|
||
checks.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: MAX
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 17:38:36
|
||
Message Number 8045
|
||
|
||
The hostages were not freed due to ANY actions of either Carter or
|
||
Reagan. Most political analysts, including conservative ones, will tell
|
||
you that. Giving Reagan credit for freeing the Iranian hostages is,
|
||
well, inaccurate. Carter most certainly did not sit around with his
|
||
thumbs up his ass; if the desert rescue mission had been executed
|
||
competently (it was screwed up due to the expert efficiency of the
|
||
American military, who didn't realize complicated tactical details like
|
||
DESERTS HAVE SAND IN THEM and SAND GETS IN ENGINES THAT DON'T HAVE SAND
|
||
SCREENS INSTALLED), Carter would have been a national hero and would
|
||
have gone on to another term. Because it didn't succeed, he was a
|
||
national joke, and would have lost no matter who he was running against.
|
||
I don't agree with Turtle's "the American forces are there as cannon
|
||
fodder" argument, and yes, the American military is well-trained. I
|
||
would dispute your claim that they're the best military force in the
|
||
world (I'd give the Israelis that distinction), but they're certainly
|
||
pretty high on the list.
|
||
And no, it's not our war. That should be patently obvious. I said
|
||
in the message that started this thread, "we're there solely to protect
|
||
our economic interests." At least this time we do have a vested
|
||
interest in the region, but we are involved as a third party pretending
|
||
to come to the rescue of a smaller guy being beaten up by the bully.
|
||
While that is, in fact, what we're going, rescuing Kuwait is kind of
|
||
incidental to the issue.
|
||
By the way, before you spew any more at me, you might have noticed I
|
||
never said we shouldn't be there. I wish there was a way to avoid it,
|
||
and I certainly wouldn't WANT us to be there (nor would I want any of
|
||
my friends going there, although I suspect at least two may be), but it
|
||
is economically necessary for someone to keep Iraq from controlling too
|
||
much of the oil in the region.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: MAX
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Furrys
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 17:48:18
|
||
Message Number 8046
|
||
|
||
Well, I said sex with her /might/ produce offspring. Writing about the
|
||
overrated joys of family life, regardless of what race/species/whatever
|
||
comprises the family, has never appealed to me.
|
||
Yes, she probably /would/ qualify as a different lifeform; the
|
||
premise of the story (or one of them) is an alternate earth where the
|
||
dominant life evolved from felids instead of from primates. There
|
||
wouldn't be a direct analogy to her people on our planet, by definition.
|
||
The same could be said for all the anthropomorphic species in Ranean
|
||
Tales, although a lot of the 'morphs there were originally magically
|
||
created from the "normal" animals. While I've seen them referred to
|
||
as animals in stories, and I've probably done it myself, Reli -- and
|
||
Wezip, Juka, and for that matter, the character Turtle -- are animals in
|
||
the same sense humans are animals. When people make a distinction
|
||
between humans and animals, though, all of those 'morphs would probably
|
||
meet all the metaphysical & philosphical requirements for humans, they'd
|
||
just be a true different race, like Dungeons & Dragons elves or dwarves.
|
||
Speculating on the difference language makes is kind of interesting.
|
||
If you call Juka a fox, the question of bestiality comes up; if you call
|
||
her an Altani and describe her as a furry alien with vulpine features,
|
||
then it probably doesn't. (Of course, questions relating to being
|
||
attracted to aliens would take their place, but at least you'd be
|
||
discussing two sapient beings responsible for their own actions, not a
|
||
human making dovy-eyes, or worse, at a confused animal.)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: MAX
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 18:03:09
|
||
Message Number 8047
|
||
|
||
I identify with the "liberal" banner more closely than "conservative"
|
||
because of the issues involved. I see far too many people on both sides
|
||
who haven't really thought about anything and who do, in fact, believe
|
||
that the ACLU is a bunch of bleeding-heart liberals whose only purpose
|
||
is to fight conservative thought (despite the fact that they have aided
|
||
in the defense of both Oliver North and Tammy Faye Bakker), that
|
||
"Robert Bork's Amerika" would have meant the end of freedom as we know
|
||
it (he may have been so strict a constitutionalist that instead of
|
||
reading things into the law that weren't there, he was missing things in
|
||
the law that were taken for granted, but he still wasn't Satan), or that
|
||
merely calling someone a "liberal" (or "conservative", albeit in much
|
||
fewer circles) immediately negates anything they have to say. I don't
|
||
like a lot of what's going on with social programs under Bush, and I
|
||
certainly don't think he's going to win any Critics' Choice awards as
|
||
the best leader of the 20th century; he's just not a crook, a klutz, a
|
||
smile with nothing to say or an actor riding the crest of the religious
|
||
right and sound-bite conservatism, which -- sadly -- probably makes him
|
||
the best president we've had in 20 years.
|
||
Although the fact that he WANTED Quayle as his VP still disturbs me.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: MAX
|
||
Subject: Defective...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 20:23:04
|
||
Message Number 8048
|
||
|
||
You're too serious on occasion Max... I should sincerely hope that my
|
||
personal motives and ideals would be known as a tad higher than what
|
||
you imply. I was merely trying to wind the whole tedious conversation
|
||
down with a bit of humor. I "pick" on other people on occasion also.
|
||
My friend Harold is Jewish and fits the stereotype so perfectly that it
|
||
is actually humorous. I kid him partly because I would like him to be
|
||
aware that he is actually contributing to the stereotype and thus doing
|
||
himself and his fellow Jews no favors.
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 20:30:13
|
||
Message Number 8049
|
||
|
||
TS>Jimmy Carter ...tried to pull off a resue attempt...
|
||
|
||
Actually wasn't that the military that blundered? They are supposed to
|
||
be ready at any time. Our Commander in Chief told 'em to get their
|
||
ass over there and rescue hostages. The Chiefs of Staff are supposed to
|
||
be the real tactical wizards. Instead we (as in all Americans) were
|
||
let down by shoddy equipment maintenance and even worse planning. Don't
|
||
blame Carter.
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: inane lyrics
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 20:39:43
|
||
Message Number 8050
|
||
|
||
>TS>have you noticed how FAT the dark haired one is getting?
|
||
|
||
Bingo - I went brain-dead and had to check to make sure I was wrong.
|
||
Anyway , yeah she's gone to hell and her frumpy hairdo doesn't help
|
||
at all. Nancy plays one hell of a 12 string.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: Background
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 20:42:41
|
||
Message Number 8051
|
||
|
||
BM>Feathers, huh? I might be able to get into those...:>
|
||
Maybe a small bit of background would help. I really disliked this one
|
||
jerk that I had as a room-mate in California when I was in the Air Force
|
||
I tried everything that I could to get rid of this guy but he idolized
|
||
me because I raced cars, played guitar etc etc. In return, I detesd
|
||
everything about this guy because he made The Specialist look like
|
||
a flaming liberal and was the epiotome of the Tennessee Hillbilly.
|
||
TaDa! One day he heard us talking about something mildly kinky and he
|
||
really went off the deep end about how sick we were and how he couldn't
|
||
stand to hear people talk like that... hehehehe - my prayers were
|
||
answered!!! I became somewhat <modestly> of an authority on kinky
|
||
behavior just to maintain my edge in keeping this guy away. <grin>
|
||
Then one day it occurred to me to actually try some of this "fun" stuff.
|
||
|
||
]:> JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: ZOT GNOP
|
||
Subject: Music
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 20:54:40
|
||
Message Number 8053
|
||
|
||
ya rock-n-roll??? Like to jam??? Know a drummer???
|
||
<oh puhleayuz say yes to all the above>
|
||
JonBoy with the jammin DT's
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: MAX
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 20:58:31
|
||
Message Number 8054
|
||
|
||
MAX>If he was so great at running things, he would have at least
|
||
MAX>levelled off the sucker.
|
||
|
||
Sorry Max - that wins a NonSequitar stamp. The federal deficit is
|
||
powered in ways that even professionals aren't sure of and to assume
|
||
that with the limited powers of the President, held in check by the
|
||
Senate and House, can halt a financial juggernaut of these proportions
|
||
is silly. Not only that but it is absurd to even contemplate changing
|
||
the course of something that started rolling long ago and has built up
|
||
and almost unstoppable inertia in a mere 4 to 8 years. We need LONG
|
||
term planning and a commitment to action. There are no magic potions
|
||
and brilliant financial chicanery that will fix the problem in this
|
||
century (my personal opinion of course).
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: HI!!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 21:04:53
|
||
Message Number 8055
|
||
|
||
Glad to see ya back Chip!!!!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Homosexuality
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 21:06:01
|
||
Message Number 8056
|
||
|
||
CPU>Pray tell, how can you know...kind of sexuality a person is?
|
||
|
||
Well, not to go into a long-winded explanation but there ARE a lot of
|
||
non-verbal cues that I learned to pick up on from my friends in S.F.
|
||
The most prevalent is the lack of a "positive" gender reference when
|
||
referring to "close" friends. My friend up in Utah was shocked that
|
||
I had known he was gay from about the second week I knew him. My clue
|
||
was that in referring to his lovers he would inevitably end up using
|
||
a neutral phrase such as "this person". He was consious of the fact
|
||
that in discussing this person that the "beans could get spilled" and
|
||
was consequently over-careful. Hopefully that's clear. I want to
|
||
poo-poo any ideas that it had to do with any limp wrists and lisps.
|
||
My friend is a very masculine person and in fact "takes" a woman on
|
||
occasion to keep the "image" up. Hell he gets laid more often than
|
||
I do! :>
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: inane lyrics
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 21:11:57
|
||
Message Number 8057
|
||
|
||
>Good music, insipid lyrics.
|
||
|
||
I have stated that I'm a musician primarily, have I not? I tend to
|
||
ignore the lyrics in most cases and prefer to just think of the human
|
||
voice as another instrument playing.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Hot Rods
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 21:16:46
|
||
Message Number 8058
|
||
|
||
TS> The 426 Hemi was the best dual 4 barrel factory ever built.
|
||
|
||
Ever heard of the Ford 429 Boss? It was a hemi also and rated enough
|
||
horsepower that they handicapped it so Mopars could run in the same
|
||
race. Actually now I think about it - it was a 427 they built. No
|
||
matter... Ford had such an inept racing program (everyone at that
|
||
time was trying real hard to look like they weren't supporting racing
|
||
"officially".).
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: Your daughter
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 22:36:47
|
||
Message Number 8061
|
||
|
||
Teddy is morally bankrupt? Hell, there's another idol shot down in
|
||
flames. Next you'll be telling me that Marion Barry is a cokehead
|
||
or some such nonsense.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: inane lyrics
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 22:48:57
|
||
Message Number 8062
|
||
|
||
>I tend to ignore the lyrics in most cases...
|
||
|
||
Aaaigh! The music and the lyrics /together/ make the song--if you follow
|
||
the one while downplaying the other, you're likely to end up missing
|
||
something.
|
||
|
||
--A holistic Turtle
|
||
|
||
...although if it's "Magic Man" whose lyrics you're ignoring, you
|
||
probably aren't missing much...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: -ALL-
|
||
Subject: A/R
|
||
Date & Time: 08/23/90 22:51:26
|
||
Message Number 8063
|
||
|
||
This system will be running on autopilot from Friday (Aug. 24) to
|
||
the following Tuesday or Wednsday, since yours truly will be in New
|
||
York for a spell. Any technical problems will have to be suffered
|
||
through until such time as I get back...this system is notorious for
|
||
needing lots O' futzing, so I dunno how this is gonna work out, but I
|
||
guess we'll see. Keep them fingers crossed!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 01:01:05
|
||
Message Number 8065
|
||
|
||
He probably gets off where you get off criticizing gays.
|
||
The Lady
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: Lacey
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 01:03:46
|
||
Message Number 8066
|
||
|
||
Usually I give it the old control-X...and that's the honest truth!
|
||
:)
|
||
T.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: Heinlein
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 01:04:43
|
||
Message Number 8067
|
||
|
||
Usually it helps if you look, listen, and feel - first!
|
||
:> (I know, I know...what a smartass!)
|
||
T.L.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: MAX
|
||
Subject: Furrys
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 01:07:06
|
||
Message Number 8068
|
||
|
||
It's interesting to see how /so/ many people picked your story apart...
|
||
nothing like good old literary criticisms' (and opinions). Well, I
|
||
really enjoyed the story, and I do hope that you finish it in the next
|
||
issue of Mythagoras.
|
||
-An opinionated Lady
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Background
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 01:10:16
|
||
Message Number 8069
|
||
|
||
:> DONE! That's all I have to say...
|
||
Lady
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ROSEY1
|
||
To: XTEVE
|
||
Subject: DADS VISIT-AMY
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 07:33:29
|
||
Message Number 8073
|
||
|
||
AT ST. JOSEPH MI, AMY & KEVINS ....
|
||
..
|
||
HELLO THERE FLORIDA FAMILY ...
|
||
..
|
||
THIS IS DAD VISITING AMY ...
|
||
GOT HERE YESTERDAY FOR SUPPER AND AM LEAVING AFTER BKFST TODAY
|
||
HAVING A NICE VISIT ... AND ENJOYING SOME OF AMY'S PERSONALLY
|
||
MADE STRAWBERRY PRESERVES AND SHORTBREAD.
|
||
|
||
ALSO HAD A NICE WALK ON THE SHORE OF LAKE MICHIGAN AND DISCUSSED
|
||
......
|
||
THE GUEST ROOM WAS THE COUCH LAST NITE..... ACTUALLY VERY COMFORTABLE.
|
||
...
|
||
HI GUYS, IT'S PRETTY EARLY IN THE A.M. (FOR ME) SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT
|
||
TO SAY...I'LL BE CALLING YOU SOON, PRESPITICUS AND OGNOROUS. LOVE YA!
|
||
..
|
||
OK .. BREAKFAST TIME
|
||
WILL LOOK FOR SOMETHING FROM YOU THIS WEEKEND.
|
||
... LOVE ...
|
||
... DAD & AMY ...
|
||
..
|
||
XTEVE .. GOOD TO HEAR ALL OF YOUR NEWS ..
|
||
CAPTURED IT TO A FILE `..
|
||
WILL READ IT CAREFULLY LATER .
|
||
CEREAL & TOAST TIME W/AMY NOW ..
|
||
DAD ..
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ROSEY1
|
||
To: LAURA
|
||
Subject: VISIT TO AMY
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 07:37:43
|
||
Message Number 8074
|
||
|
||
AT ST. JOSEPH MI, AMY & KEVINS ....
|
||
..
|
||
HELLO THERE FLORIDA FAMILY ...
|
||
..
|
||
THIS IS DAD VISITING AMY ...
|
||
GOT HERE YESTERDAY FOR SUPPER AND AM LEAVING AFTER BKFST TODAY
|
||
HAVING A NICE VISIT ... AND ENJOYING SOME OF AMY'S PERSONALLY
|
||
MADE STRAWBERRY PRESERVES AND SHORTBREAD.
|
||
|
||
ALSO HAD A NICE WALK ON THE SHORE OF LAKE MICHIGAN AND DISCUSSED
|
||
......
|
||
THE GUEST ROOM WAS THE COUCH LAST NITE..... ACTUALLY VERY COMFORTABLE.
|
||
...
|
||
HI GUYS, IT'S PRETTY EARLY IN THE A.M. (FOR ME) SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT
|
||
TO SAY...I'LL BE CALLING YOU SOON, PRESPITICUS AND OGNOROUS. LOVE YA!
|
||
..
|
||
OK .. BREAKFAST TIME
|
||
WILL LOOK FOR SOMETHING FROM YOU THIS WEEKEND.
|
||
... LOVE ...
|
||
... DAD & AMY ...
|
||
..
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Zappa
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 10:02:29
|
||
Message Number 8075
|
||
|
||
Got wrapped up in his stuff in early 70's and haven't put it down
|
||
since. Some of his instrumentals leave a little to be desired, but all
|
||
in all, I really love his stuff. Now in my <excuse me> old age <grin>,
|
||
I have to be careful when I play some Zappa around my kids.
|
||
"I'm gonna ram it, ram it, ram it up your poop shoot...corn hole,
|
||
fist f*ck, wrist watch, Crisco...." and that kind of stuff....
|
||
|
||
Billy was a mountain, Ethel was a tree growing off of his shoulder....
|
||
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Association
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 10:06:49
|
||
Message Number 8076
|
||
|
||
>Rumania...AIDS
|
||
|
||
That's really a shame that those kids have to pay for their country's
|
||
ignorance. Maybe we could get them started on a safer method of treating
|
||
ill or sickly children....like blood letting with leeches or something.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Animalism?
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 10:08:58
|
||
Message Number 8077
|
||
|
||
Carolina Biological Supply.....high school frogs
|
||
|
||
Maybe this is tied in to some film studios so that the kids will
|
||
better appreciate Freddy Kruger, Leatherface, and Jason. I think
|
||
more sinks in to our kids from these hack-'em movies then hands on
|
||
learning biology. They're scared to go to sleep 'cause Freddy will
|
||
get them, but they don't know a lung from a liver.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Moral/Popular
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 10:13:18
|
||
Message Number 8078
|
||
|
||
>inside looked ANYTHING like the insides of the animals we dissected...
|
||
|
||
I was involved in a brain weight to body ratio and gastrointestinal
|
||
content study of sharks in Wilmington, NC and we had to cut up several
|
||
sharks every day for a month. Had to remove the brain (intact) and
|
||
empty the gastrointestinal tract and check the contents. You CAN learn
|
||
the stuff hands on if it is presented properly and you are accomplishing
|
||
something, but most school projects turn into a Veg-O-Matic style of
|
||
dissection with nothing being accomplished.
|
||
Oh yeah, you should try to put a surgical knife through the hide of
|
||
a shark. We usually had to saw through when we had to cut on the back.
|
||
The belly was softer, but the back was IMPOSSIBLE to stick ANYTHING
|
||
thru. Remember that if you get attacked.....if you can.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Animalism!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 10:20:04
|
||
Message Number 8079
|
||
|
||
>teach anatomy and make it stick?
|
||
|
||
A group of students gathered around one person who knows what they're
|
||
doing, explaining the parts to the kids would teach them MORE about the
|
||
anatomy of the creature they're dissecting, and less about how to
|
||
surgically remove the heart from a frog. Are we attempting to teach
|
||
anatomy, or surgical techniques? It would also save about 90% of the
|
||
dissected animals......
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: cat
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 10:45:02
|
||
Message Number 8080
|
||
|
||
>Ridiculous footwear: Pump shoes, spike heels, tennis shoes with those
|
||
>velcro thingies that hold 'em shut...any shoe that takes over ten
|
||
>minutes to put on or off, and anything that comes past your knee.
|
||
|
||
I can live with that. I myself like the air/gel shoes. They really do
|
||
cushion your step (unless you happen to get a knife and puncture the
|
||
bladder holding the gel in, AHEM). Speaking of velcro, have you ever
|
||
seen Mad Dog velcro? Very scary stuff.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: ShingenNobunaga
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 18:35:05
|
||
Message Number 8081
|
||
|
||
A tall man enters, wearing all black save red wristcuffs, belt, and
|
||
straps on his legs. His legs are chained together with a heavy block
|
||
connected to the chain. He rips of his face covering to show a young man
|
||
's face, beaten, bruised. He leans on a table with one hand and pulls a
|
||
large pistol from his wrappings with the other. His eyes are almost
|
||
swollen shut, and his mouth and nose are bleeding. he points the gun to
|
||
a blurry figure near the bar and says "food... haven't eaten.. weeks"
|
||
he then passes out, firing a shot as he hits the floor.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: MAX
|
||
Subject: Furrys
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 19:55:22
|
||
Message Number 8082
|
||
|
||
> a human and a feline alien...
|
||
|
||
Any way I can get a copy of that story?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Reagan/Carter
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 19:58:25
|
||
Message Number 8083
|
||
|
||
|
||
Hey, Chip! Welcome back!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Nuke Kids
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 20:03:24
|
||
Message Number 8084
|
||
|
||
> then you will overcome your scum like life.
|
||
|
||
Exactly. My life is scum, but I'm not a scum in the way the message
|
||
said...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Music
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 20:34:37
|
||
Message Number 8085
|
||
|
||
> Know a drummer???
|
||
|
||
If I tried, I might be able to do at least SOMETHING... I haven't
|
||
been behind real drums, except for once, but Iwant to try sometime...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: inane lyrics
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 20:37:55
|
||
Message Number 8086
|
||
|
||
> I tend to ignore the lyrics in most cases...
|
||
|
||
Yeah, I do, and I believe Zot Gnop does also, but Turtle and Max are
|
||
firm believers that the music and the lyrics together make the song.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 21:11:05
|
||
Message Number 8088
|
||
|
||
>T>The troops in Saudi Arabia are cannon fodder.
|
||
anifest Bullshit (tm). Where do you getoff criticizing the talents and
|
||
s of America's armed forces? Have....
|
||
|
||
ARGH!! BAD QUOTING!!!
|
||
|
||
@ne rate, the troops in Saudi Arabia are well equiped, but chem and bio
|
||
warfare is _nasty_. The good ol rubber suits are _hot_ (not to mention
|
||
unwieldly, uncomfortable, and of limited effectiveness), and are not a
|
||
panacea that works. I fully expect it to take a while for the situation
|
||
to be resolved (as does Bush, from the approach he has been taking), and
|
||
am thinking about what to do if the situation escalates. The troop
|
||
movements have been massive.
|
||
|
||
If the situation was going to end quickly, it would have already been
|
||
wrapped up (quick bombing attack, direct invasion, or such approach.
|
||
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 21:37:02
|
||
Message Number 8089
|
||
|
||
Whoa, Nellie! Hold me back...
|
||
|
||
First and foremost, do you REALLY think Reagan had anything to do
|
||
with the Iranian hostage situation? Sure -- it was in his reign that
|
||
they freed the hostages. But, how few days in?
|
||
|
||
Secondly, you're falling into the same trap Saddam wants the rest
|
||
of the world to fall into. This is not a war of Iraq against the
|
||
United States (although we're one of the countries he'd like to bring
|
||
down.) This is Iraq against the oil-consuming countries of the world.
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Furrys
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 21:40:56
|
||
Message Number 8090
|
||
|
||
First and foremost, your basing of beast/humanity on the number of
|
||
chromosones is next to useless. At least some mammals (Ghods -- I've
|
||
got to look up exactly which ones!) have more chromosones than humans
|
||
do. Does that make them super-human?
|
||
|
||
Second of all, what makes you so certain that creatures like Reli
|
||
have genetics based on chromosones?
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 21:53:11
|
||
Message Number 8091
|
||
|
||
>Besides, what is more fun than leaping to conclusions?
|
||
|
||
Not getting drenched in shouts of "HOMOPHOBE!"
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Homosexuality
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 21:54:40
|
||
Message Number 8092
|
||
|
||
>There are certain tell-tale signs which by themselves mean nothing,
|
||
>but when all exibited at the same time indicate a possibility of
|
||
>what the sexual preference of the person in question might be. Now,
|
||
>it is also a feeling...like a hunch.
|
||
|
||
Hmmm... reminds me of an incident with my parents and someone who's
|
||
occasionally on these boards. (Call him Igor.) Igor is somewhat shy,
|
||
he has a fairly high-pitched voice for a male, and he is always quite
|
||
clean-shaven. When my parents met him, their comment was, "He seems
|
||
like such a nice boy... you DO know that he's gay, don't you?"
|
||
Quite far from the truth, in this case.
|
||
|
||
Ya could be misrepresenting someone...
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 22:01:31
|
||
Message Number 8093
|
||
|
||
>Ever occur to you that all the Republican porpaganda you've been
|
||
>listening to is bullshit? Really, you pay far too much attention to
|
||
>those election mailings.
|
||
|
||
I do not neglect to remind you that one of your members was PROUD
|
||
to bring forth into this world that election porpaganda. And I assure
|
||
you, it is not mere bullshit. 'Tis much more similar to barns over-
|
||
flowing with the fecal matter of a wide variety of the finest animals.
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 22:05:54
|
||
Message Number 8094
|
||
|
||
>I think (hope) George is the best guy available.
|
||
|
||
Really? Personally, I'm convinced that neither the Democrats nor
|
||
the Republicans wanted to win this election. George Bush seems to be
|
||
excellent with international relations. He's trying to use them to
|
||
cover up his lack of ability with national matters.
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: HI!!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 22:12:35
|
||
Message Number 8095
|
||
|
||
Why, thanks, JonBoy! It's great being back!
|
||
|
||
Again, sometime we need to get together some sort of pick-up, acoustic
|
||
band. Even if it's just "Chipper's All-Kazoo Orchestra," it seems
|
||
music is a second current running through some BBS'ers.
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Homosexuality
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 22:15:05
|
||
Message Number 8096
|
||
|
||
The idea of a lack of gender reference when talking about lovers
|
||
might help pick out pure homosexuals from the rest of people, but it
|
||
does not give one whit of information about bisexuals.
|
||
But, seriously -- that is a good idea. And I've noticed it before.
|
||
(In fact, three or four days ago -- and eventually he tried to bed
|
||
me. I declined.)
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Your daughter
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 22:18:22
|
||
Message Number 8097
|
||
|
||
>Next you'll be telling me that Marion Barry is a cokehead or
|
||
>some such nonsense.
|
||
|
||
It's a black thing. You won't understand.
|
||
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
Subject: Animalism!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 22:21:36
|
||
Message Number 8098
|
||
|
||
I still feel that doing is the only way of really teaching people.
|
||
Ghods, how I hated dissecting cats! But it helped me pull off a
|
||
"3" on the A.P. Biology exam.
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Reagan/Carter
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 22:23:30
|
||
Message Number 8099
|
||
|
||
Yip! (tm) Why, thanks, Beatle! Damn good to be back.
|
||
|
||
aLTER rEALITY doesn't seem to have changed that much -- same weire
|
||
discussions, same obscurity. Love that stuff!
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: cat
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 22:43:53
|
||
Message Number 8101
|
||
|
||
Never even heard of Mad Dog velcro. Does it only stick to rabid
|
||
furry animals or what? And why on /earth/ would anyone start sticking
|
||
gel bladders in gel tennis shoes with sharp objects, anyway? You been
|
||
dissecting too many frogs? THIS is why that sort of activity should be
|
||
prohibited in public schools! Just think: innocent tennis shoes
|
||
sacrificed by little maniacs with scalpels, rampaging devils educated
|
||
by the very school systems to attack every tennis shoe that crosses
|
||
their path! It's a plot of the devil! Aaaaaaaaaaigh! Stop the slaughter
|
||
of innocent shoes!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: RAVEN
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 22:50:55
|
||
Message Number 8102
|
||
|
||
>@ne rate...
|
||
|
||
Hey, there's an interesting typological shortcut!
|
||
|
||
>...the troops in Saudi Arabia are well trained and equiped...
|
||
|
||
And desperately outnumbered. A quick and dirty Iraqui invasion of
|
||
Saudi Arabia would have certain predictable results: the American and
|
||
other forces in Saudi Arabia would be steamrollered, there would be a
|
||
fairly large-scale counter-offensive, the Iraquis would not have the
|
||
resources or the supplies to dig in and fight a protracted battle, the
|
||
Iraquis would lose. You could almost make it into a paint-by-numbers
|
||
thing. The long-term success wouldn't help the poor schmucks on the
|
||
front lines, though.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 22:56:05
|
||
Message Number 8103
|
||
|
||
Hey, did you see where the honorable Senator Jesse Helms has publically
|
||
referred to the supporters of his opponent in this year's Senatorial
|
||
election "a collection of artists, homosexuals, and every other left-
|
||
wing group"? That is truly staggering propaganda of the type to make
|
||
your barnyard-variety Republican crap look like the most insignificant
|
||
lice on the wolly mammoth of Jesse Helms, or some such badly-constructed
|
||
metaphor. Anyway, I thought it was pretty funny.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Reagan/Carter
|
||
Date & Time: 08/24/90 22:59:45
|
||
Message Number 8104
|
||
|
||
>aLTER rEALITY doesn't seem to have changed that much...
|
||
|
||
...unless you count new menus, new (sorta) software (or at least new
|
||
hacks), and a new, improved fresh scent. Stay tuned, though; A/R may
|
||
be going Fido (as a point system) in the next coupla months.
|
||
|
||
>...same weire discussions...
|
||
|
||
We here at Anarchy Now, Inc. have always prided ourselves on the
|
||
weiredom of our discussions. The weire factor is something that will
|
||
never go away. (Not 'cause we like it, but because we can't get rid of
|
||
it. Nobody's been able to figure out a way to factor a weire yet,
|
||
short of integrating the entire thing by partial fractions, and everyone
|
||
knows partial fractions are mathematical witchcraft. Besides, if you
|
||
factor the whole thing by weire, you end up with a non-reducable
|
||
term...never mind.)
|
||
|
||
>...same obscurity.
|
||
|
||
Heaven forbid our weire should be obvious!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: ALL WYVERNERS
|
||
Subject: Ranean Tales
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 00:11:13
|
||
Message Number 8105
|
||
|
||
Now available in the download directory: a text file containing all the
|
||
AR posts through Message #7300. Ranean Tales posters may want to down-
|
||
load it for archival purposes. NEW USERS WHO INTEND TO JOIN THE RANEAN
|
||
TALES STORYBOARD ARE /REQUIRED/ TO DOWNLOAD THIS FILE AND READ IT
|
||
*FIRST*!!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: inane lyrics
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 02:13:24
|
||
Message Number 8106
|
||
|
||
Speaking of inane lyrics and such, Zot made me listen to a NKOTB song
|
||
tonight just to point out how it was such a rip off on the Beatles'
|
||
style. Ghods, after one minute I was shaking all over and ready to
|
||
slam my head against a large spike. Just say NO to NKOTB.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: Heinlein
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 02:16:16
|
||
Message Number 8107
|
||
|
||
No, the first step is to shake them gently and ask if they are okay. If
|
||
they don't respond, search them for expensive watches, rings, and other
|
||
such items, then grab their wallet and run. If they do respond, hit 'em
|
||
over the head untill they don't respond, then steal their stuff.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: inane lyrics
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 02:22:47
|
||
Message Number 8108
|
||
|
||
>Yeah, I do [ignore lyrics], and I believe Zot Gnop does...
|
||
|
||
I don't think Zot ignores the lyrics.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: cat
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 02:28:15
|
||
Message Number 8109
|
||
|
||
>Never even heard of Mad Dog velcro. Does it only stick to rabid
|
||
>furry animals or what?
|
||
|
||
Well, from what I've heard of it (I've never bought any, it's $3 for
|
||
about 3 square inches of the stuff), it will hold a volvo to the
|
||
underside of a steel I-beam (right next to the guy from the Crazy Glue
|
||
ad).
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: New Subject
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 07:46:57
|
||
Message Number 8115
|
||
|
||
Yo, I know this is a new reply to an old message, but I have that para
|
||
too. That's why I have alot of weapons and know how to use lethal force.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 08:58:19
|
||
Message Number 8116
|
||
|
||
>The long-term success wouldn't help the poor schmucks on the front
|
||
>lines, though.
|
||
|
||
What front lines? The Iraqis have fantastic (over a million) ground
|
||
troops -- they're following the blitzkrieg strategy. But -- they have
|
||
a front line. But, the Americans have extremely few ground troops --
|
||
most of their power comes from the air.
|
||
Any general who'd send American ground troops and expect them to
|
||
survive is hopeless... We'd need at least twice the number of troops
|
||
the Iraqis have just for a "fair fight." For some reason, the Americans
|
||
sent over lots of air-based and sea-based troops; not land-based.
|
||
Where the heck is our "front lines" in this case?
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 09:02:28
|
||
Message Number 8117
|
||
|
||
Yup! I heard about it the next day. Ya know, what's really
|
||
interesting is that the Republican Conference has predicted the
|
||
fall of Jesse Helms from the Senate... privately, of course. It
|
||
would be a good thing.
|
||
|
||
From the department of Even Worse: (Note: the following is NOT
|
||
a TurtleSpew (tm). This is completely serious.) Senator D'Amato (R-NY)
|
||
has a spiffy new way to cut off drug trafficking. Why not one day
|
||
just change the color of money? Everybody can then go to the bank,
|
||
prove the money is theirs, and voila! they get spiffy-keen new-colored
|
||
money. But if they're a Bad Guy (tm) who sells drugs or can't prove
|
||
their money was gotten legally, then <POOF!> it disappears.
|
||
|
||
If this is impossible, the senator continued, then why shouldn't
|
||
we have two forms of currency: one for legal use inside the country,
|
||
and a second for legal use outside the country? That was if the Mean
|
||
and Nasty Drug Traffickers tried to use some of Our currency outside
|
||
the country, they'd be caught instantly.
|
||
|
||
|
||
When I first saw his ideas, I noticed at least three major faults
|
||
with them. What do y'all think?
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: Yo! Furry Fen!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 12:34:55
|
||
Message Number 8120
|
||
|
||
If you're an animation fan -- or if you just like watching some weird,
|
||
world-class, strange shorts -- listen up!
|
||
|
||
The XXII International Tourney of Animation, with eighteen world-
|
||
wide, award winning pieces of animation is coming to Tampa from
|
||
August 31 through September 16. If you saw last year's program, you
|
||
understand the strangeness that goes on in these programs...
|
||
It will be showing at the Tampa Theatre, 711 Franklin St. Mall.
|
||
I'd love it if we could all get together some night for this strange
|
||
presentation...
|
||
|
||
Be there or be tofu.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: TRUE FEN
|
||
Subject: Life goes on.
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 12:45:49
|
||
Message Number 8121
|
||
|
||
Meanwhile, back at the Monocerous embassy, the lonely unicorn
|
||
picked up some of his last things with his mouth, and tossed them
|
||
into his bag. "Good shot," he muttered to himself. And he didn't
|
||
have to aim too hard with his horn. The unicorn had seen several games
|
||
of basketball -- and though he'd be better than most professionals.
|
||
Volleyball might be another story.
|
||
Two thuds at the door broke his chain of thought. With a flip of
|
||
his horn the door unlocked, revealing a young raccoon messenger.
|
||
Chip recognized him as one who the embassy employed.
|
||
"Two messages for you," started the raccoon. "The first is that the
|
||
Wa-Mar'am Explorer Shu-Wen wants to see you before you leave. And the
|
||
second is that your tickets have arrived. You'll be leaving three days
|
||
hence, on the starship Picard, at eight chimes." He turned as if to
|
||
leave.
|
||
"Wait a second," started the unicorn... what was his name? Oh,
|
||
Bobby. "Bobby. Wait." The raccoon stopped, glancing at the unicorn
|
||
strangely. Chip was feeling generous. Looking at the money piled
|
||
on his desk, he floated a silver coin toward the messenger. Tips
|
||
were rare on Ranea, but they were appreciated.
|
||
Bobby caught the coin from the air, and smiled his thanks. He then
|
||
left for his other rounds.
|
||
|
||
The Wa-Mar'am Shu-Wen? Chip remembered him somewhat. The short,
|
||
furry fellow was another non-human race -- but he blended in much
|
||
more easily with the furries around than Chip did. Covered with
|
||
long, brown hair, he appeared to look more like a beaver or mole
|
||
than anything else. Another quadraped, but his four paws were all
|
||
able to act as hands. A great improvement over hooves, Chip thought.
|
||
The Explorer was in Ranea to try to learn as much as possible about
|
||
extra-Universal politics -- and to meet as many people as possible.
|
||
He remembered some of his discussions -- an intelligent fellow. Chip
|
||
wondered where he had learned about Chip's leaving -- but that would
|
||
be a good start for conversation.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Hemi's
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 13:42:43
|
||
Message Number 8122
|
||
|
||
JB>Ever hear of the 429 Boss?
|
||
Yep. Hmmm. It has a record of losses to the 426's.
|
||
JB>...they handicapped it so Mopars could run in the same race.
|
||
Must be why.
|
||
JB>Actually, now that I think about it - it was a 427 they built.
|
||
No, you're right...429. It was in the 70 Mach's. Beautiful block,
|
||
*nice* looking power plant, all in orange. (Er, whatever fancy term
|
||
they used to describe ORANGE.)
|
||
JB>Ford had a real inept racing progeam...
|
||
Must be why they lost a majority to MOPAR. (Look it up...if you can't
|
||
find it, I'll get the books and show it to you.)
|
||
|
||
Actually, I didn't know any of this before this last four months. It
|
||
has been nescessary to check all of this info out when selecting an
|
||
engine (I'm rebuilding a 72 Charger). I would have liked to get a
|
||
426 but it's too much effort to rebuild one, and parts are too rare
|
||
and expensive...so I got a 440 instead. Friggin $1000 for an intake
|
||
system...sheesh!
|
||
|
||
Nothing personal about that ORANGE remark, Mopar uses blue...but they
|
||
call it "Chrysler Blue"...like calling it Chrysler Blue is gonna
|
||
impress somebody. ("Oooh, you have CHRYSLER BLUE block! Oooh!") Oh,
|
||
well...just a name, I suppose.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 13:56:21
|
||
Message Number 8123
|
||
|
||
BM>He probably gets off where you get off criticizing gays.
|
||
|
||
Ah, yes, but I'm right...
|
||
|
||
So where do you get off?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Music
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 14:13:12
|
||
Message Number 8125
|
||
|
||
Well, can you run a drum machine?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: inane lyrics
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 14:14:15
|
||
Message Number 8126
|
||
|
||
B>...but Turtle and Max are firm believers...
|
||
|
||
Yeah, they are...did you ever notice that those two are like, really
|
||
REALLY similar? I begin to wonder what experiments the government
|
||
has conducted on CLONING....
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
Oh, but hell! Then I'd have to suspect Ken and Mike, too!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: RAVEN
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 14:18:27
|
||
Message Number 8127
|
||
|
||
R>...but chen and bio warfare is _nasty_.
|
||
No shit, Sherlock. I TOOK Nuclear/Chemical/Biological training when I
|
||
was in the Army. I also took additional training as a member of the
|
||
Chemical Detection Team so I*know* what the hazards of NBC warefare
|
||
are all about. Your experience? Aside from what you've read?
|
||
R>The good ol rubber suits
|
||
Wrong. They are cloth and charcoal. Not rubber. Get your facts
|
||
down...
|
||
R> are _hot_ (not to mention unwieldy, uncomfortable and of limited
|
||
R>effective use), and are not a panacea that works.
|
||
Yes, they are _hot_ but aside from that they are not uncomfortable and
|
||
certainly not unwieldy. Given, you couldn't do acrobatics in them, but
|
||
for the purpose they were designed for (protect while in combat) they
|
||
are quite effective. Besides, how the hell would you know? YOU ever
|
||
had to wear one in field conditions? Apparently not, since you don't
|
||
even know what they are made of.... When used properly (and there
|
||
ARE proceedures which everybody uses) they are an effective WORKABLE
|
||
responce to chemical attack. The only effect is that we would be
|
||
hindered in our efforts, but the idea of a chemical attack (aside
|
||
from killing men) is to make area unusable for battel. If an
|
||
area gets gassed, the NBC proceedure is followed, (^SP battle) the
|
||
unit withdraws to an NBC Decon site, and is re-supplied and ready fr
|
||
combat again. In the meantime, another Decon crew goes out, sets up
|
||
markers (NBC markers, to set area limits) so that the area won't be
|
||
crossed by another unit.
|
||
|
||
Even though Amercian Forces are prepared for such a battle, I don't
|
||
think that Hussien will use his Chems...remember, he's gotta cross that
|
||
space, too! Given there's not a lot of space there that'w worth any-
|
||
thing...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 14:38:49
|
||
Message Number 8128
|
||
|
||
What country in the world consumes the most oil?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Furrys
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 14:39:34
|
||
Message Number 8129
|
||
|
||
I was corrected by Turtle about the chomosome thing...so you are right
|
||
about that...but I didn't mean number of chomosomes...I meant the
|
||
information encoded on them. A match of info is what I was looking for.
|
||
|
||
CPU> what makes you so certain that...Reli...based on chromosomes?
|
||
|
||
Hmmm. Good point. It's just that most carbon based lifeforms I've
|
||
ever encountered have some sort of basic pattern, and I just use
|
||
chomosomes to describe it. In answer, I'm not certain.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 14:43:25
|
||
Message Number 8130
|
||
|
||
"Homophobe" is a bullshit term. It is used by sick individuals to
|
||
turn the tables onto normal individuals.
|
||
|
||
"I'm not sick because I'm gay; _you_ are sick because you are...
|
||
afraid of gays! Yeah, that's the ticket...and, and..."
|
||
|
||
Sick people who needed to justify themselves made up the term...and
|
||
then their "supporters" decided to run with it. Get real...it's
|
||
a bullshit term.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Homosexuality
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 14:46:57
|
||
Message Number 8131
|
||
|
||
CPU>Ya could be misrepresenting someone...
|
||
|
||
True. But if you will take a look at my message, you will see that its
|
||
pretty nebulous. Not that I used words which were not definite words.
|
||
I said "possible" an "may indicate". I admit, I'm willing to put up
|
||
with a lot of things. I would not judge your freind Igor to be gay
|
||
just because he has a high pitched voide and is shy and clean shaven.
|
||
These ALONE do not indicate anything. now the timbre of his voice
|
||
with a high pitch might make me suspicious. I'm not sure that shy
|
||
is an indicator, exactly. I am shy, but I'm not gay. I don't think
|
||
that clean shaven is much of an indicator, either. Probably about
|
||
80% of what give a gay away is his demeanor. Other clues, like
|
||
what JB said earlier (non-gender references) make up another 10%. I
|
||
would give the rest to hunch...
|
||
|
||
God, my typing sucks!!! sorry for all the typos.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Homosexuality
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 14:54:56
|
||
Message Number 8132
|
||
|
||
CPU>But, seriously -- that is a good idea. And I've noticed it before.
|
||
CPU>(In fact, three of four days ago -- and eventually he tried to bed
|
||
CPU>me. I declined.)
|
||
|
||
(Withdraws with a strange look on face) (gag!) You declined?
|
||
(Looks away, still not sure of how to react...repulsion and disgust
|
||
vie for space and finally reach a compromise, to be replaced by anger
|
||
a few seconds later) I hope with a painfull (to the offending
|
||
propositioner) guesture!
|
||
|
||
Grr. I have to admire you, Chip...I'da had to do something extremely
|
||
violent. (Shakes head and makes face) At least...yes, I amire your
|
||
self-control.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Velcro
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 15:06:54
|
||
Message Number 8133
|
||
|
||
Oh, fantastic! Where can I get some?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 15:09:29
|
||
Message Number 8134
|
||
|
||
"Front-lines" is an outdated term. According the the Army, there are
|
||
to be no front lines because of the "high-mobilty" factor of tdays
|
||
conflicts. The new army tactical strategy is called "Air/Land Battle"
|
||
(A/L B). This is where a war is fought on many fronts, all with thier
|
||
own Air support (which can range from Chinooks to A-10's). Essentially,
|
||
in A/L B all the fighting is done from the air by area attacks (40 mm
|
||
grenades from helis, tank attacks and bomb attacks from A-10's). This
|
||
keeps our troops from harms way while still leaving them there for
|
||
clean up operations. Clearly, the US has the tactical advantage on
|
||
air superiority, and with this, we can conduct A/L B all day long.
|
||
|
||
Oh, by the way...while Iraqi troop strength is (over) estimated at
|
||
about 1 million troops, actually only about 200,000 of them are of
|
||
any use (trained soldiers). This puts the US in a more favorable light,
|
||
seeing as how ALL of our troops are well trained. (While not in actual
|
||
combat...even though they got as close as they could without killing
|
||
each other.)
|
||
|
||
We can make up the difference with tactical nukes. Heh, heh, heh.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 15:30:22
|
||
Message Number 8135
|
||
|
||
Well, Dave, are you sure that you meant to say, "all fighting"?
|
||
|
||
No, I meant to say, a great deal of the fighting.
|
||
|
||
Ah, so then, what you mean is that the troops are "closely supported"
|
||
by air support.
|
||
|
||
Well, yes. You know what I mean!
|
||
|
||
Yes, but you know that they'll sharpshoot you on that.
|
||
|
||
I know, I know...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Music
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 16:02:15
|
||
Message Number 8136
|
||
|
||
Same here, dude. (Re: Drummer)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Yo! Furry Fen!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 16:26:32
|
||
Message Number 8138
|
||
|
||
I picked up the flyer for it yesterday at Time Machine. I know a
|
||
few non-bbsers, semi-furry, anime folks are going, probably two weekends
|
||
from now. The more the merrier. And the Tampa Theatre is an amazing
|
||
place. The inside looks like the outside more than the outside does.
|
||
And even better, if you buy 10 tickets, it's only $2 each, as opposed to
|
||
$4 each. What a deal.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Velcro
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 16:35:48
|
||
Message Number 8139
|
||
|
||
>Oh, fantastic! Where can I get some?
|
||
|
||
Well, I know West Coast Hobby World in Sarasota has it. Other than
|
||
there, I'm not really sure. I should go out and invest in some.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 19:21:46
|
||
Message Number 8140
|
||
|
||
Which country consumes the most oil? The U.S.
|
||
|
||
But it's fairly likely that Japan or West Germany import more.
|
||
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 19:23:41
|
||
Message Number 8141
|
||
|
||
>Homophobe is a bullshit term. It is used by sick individuals to
|
||
>turn the tables onto normal individuals.
|
||
|
||
No, the term happens to have been more of a psychological term,
|
||
similar to Anglophobe, agoraphobe, or pedophobe -- without reference
|
||
to the morality (or immorality) of homosexuality, English people,
|
||
wide open spaces, or children. Yes, it was taken by the homosexual
|
||
community to describe their attackers; but it remains a good
|
||
psychological term.
|
||
|
||
Even if you were a forthright individual, and morally opposed
|
||
say... computer criminals, there is no need to be afraid of them.
|
||
Even if you fulfilled all of the Ten Commandments, there is no need
|
||
to fear covetous people.
|
||
|
||
That, sir, is the difference between a "morally upright" person
|
||
and a "homophobe."
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Homosexuality
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 19:35:43
|
||
Message Number 8142
|
||
|
||
Don't worry about the typos. You're doing fine.
|
||
|
||
First and foremost, I don't want to debate the morality (or
|
||
immorality) of homosexuality. What I have found disturbing about
|
||
you is that you seem to feel that homosexuality immediately negates
|
||
any "good points" for a person. That is, a man or woman might be a
|
||
wonderful member of the community, giving generously to churches and
|
||
civic organizations, be a wonderful speaker and an easy person to
|
||
get along with, be unselfishly devoted to children and pets, and
|
||
yet keeps up the schedule necessary for a doctor in the emergency
|
||
ward -- and be homosexual -- therefore, the person is scvm. That,
|
||
my friend, seems to be homophobia.
|
||
|
||
|
||
Prove me wrong. Say that one's sexual preference is not the most
|
||
important thing about oneself.
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Homosexuality
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 19:46:06
|
||
Message Number 8143
|
||
|
||
>You declined?...I hope with a painfull guesture!
|
||
|
||
It's happened before to me; it may happen again. I'm not interested
|
||
in the "homosexual lifestyle" -- but I don't see how it's my place to
|
||
try to change others away from it. The first time I declined with,
|
||
"My girlfriend wouldn't like that." and last time, I simply said I
|
||
was hetero. Period.
|
||
|
||
What was I doing with him in the first place? His brother died; he
|
||
desperately needed to talk with someone.
|
||
And that shakes the boundaries of sexual preference.
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 19:53:53
|
||
Message Number 8144
|
||
|
||
Thank you very much for the information. Though I disagree with you
|
||
on some topics, your military knowledge is first-rate.
|
||
|
||
Tactical nukes? Heck -- go for the big stuff first, and create the
|
||
Iraqi sea. THAT'll teach 'em to go against the U.S!
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Yo! Furry Fen!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 19:57:04
|
||
Message Number 8145
|
||
|
||
I think we could manage to scrape up ten fen -- especially if we
|
||
include your "non-bbsers, semi-furry, anime" friends. But, the big
|
||
question is: can the Tampa Theatre deal with having more than ten
|
||
furries in the same place at once?
|
||
Yip!,
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 20:26:35
|
||
Message Number 8146
|
||
|
||
>And desperately outnumbered...
|
||
|
||
1. Being outnumbered is of little consequence in the type of battle that
|
||
will probably occur (hit fast, and don't clean up afterwards).
|
||
The Afgahn rebels admirably demonstrated the ability of small fanatic
|
||
forces to fight a prolonged battle, even if dramatically outnumbered
|
||
and outclassed (with regard to weaponry), neither of which apply to
|
||
the Iraquis. The length of the fighting depends entirely on how long
|
||
S.H. wants it to.
|
||
|
||
2. The Afgahns had significantly fewer resources and supplies (but were
|
||
admittedly fighting on home territory, wheras the soviets were not)
|
||
than the Iraquis do. The Iraquis are more familiar with the area,
|
||
and the military tactics that desert fighting requires than the US or
|
||
allied forces.
|
||
|
||
3. I believe that Nam was considered a 'paint by numbers thing' as well.
|
||
This is too close a conflict for the outcome to be determined before
|
||
the fact. I ferverantly hope that the Iraquis back down (thus
|
||
avioding the other neccesities of a prolonged war), but I do not feel
|
||
that predictions can be accurately made at this point.
|
||
|
||
-a where-the-hell-is-my-other-passport Raven-
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 20:49:45
|
||
Message Number 8147
|
||
|
||
A freely admit that I did not know the SOP for dealing with chem/bio
|
||
attack. The figure I have for the effectiveness of the suit (30min for
|
||
intrusive agents) is what I was told by one friend who rescently left
|
||
the military, and verified by another who rescentley rejioned. No I
|
||
have never worn one in field conditions, and if the rest of the suit is
|
||
anywhere as stifiling as the mask (one of which I own), then I can only
|
||
say thank the gods, and pray that I never have to.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 20:55:17
|
||
Message Number 8148
|
||
|
||
phobe := fear
|
||
|
||
As you are definately afraid of gays (or so your attitude has lead us to
|
||
believe) homophobe is an accurate description. I thought you were
|
||
dropping this thread?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 21:49:36
|
||
Message Number 8149
|
||
|
||
Come now... I hate war in any way, shape, or form... if they drafted
|
||
me I wouldn't kill.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: inane lyrics
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 22:10:54
|
||
Message Number 8150
|
||
|
||
T> you're likely to end up missing something.
|
||
|
||
Actually - yes. Usually what the name of the song is! As far as the
|
||
lyrics go - I learned my lesson again when I took the time to read the
|
||
lyrics in Van Halen's OU812. Sorry! The music can do quite well with-
|
||
out understanding the word. I ain't made up my mind whether Sammy is
|
||
a good thing or not yet - but he has the fact that DL Roth was a dweeb
|
||
is a point in his favor.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
Subject: Zappa
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 22:19:32
|
||
Message Number 8151
|
||
|
||
SB>I have to be careful when I play some Zappa around my kids.
|
||
|
||
I took the "Joes' Garage" tape into work (some fabulous synth guitar
|
||
work!) and one of the guys cranked it in the song Cyborg where he is
|
||
having sex with Gay Bob - a miniature plasticized homo-replica and
|
||
shorts out Cy with a golden shower. Just so happened that some, ahhhh
|
||
sensistive people were in the area....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
Subject: Moral/Popular
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 22:22:42
|
||
Message Number 8152
|
||
|
||
SB>sharks in Wilmington, NC
|
||
|
||
Wow! When were you there? I used to be stationed at Fort Fisher at the
|
||
south end of Kure Beach. I used to really bug the gals at the research
|
||
station. Finally they figured out I was sincere (I used to take 'em
|
||
weird stuff I caught snorkeling and in my nets) and used to take me out
|
||
in the boat on collection trips. I remember cutting up my first shark.
|
||
Not only did the damned thing resist being cut open - it dulled my
|
||
Buck knife to the point I couldn't cut at all with it. We used the skin
|
||
to make some Japanese sanders.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Music
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 22:27:50
|
||
Message Number 8153
|
||
|
||
I just wanna jam with somebody. I miss my buddy Billy Bell. We used
|
||
to have Rum-n-coke jam sessions at least once a month (that's where
|
||
you drink rum and cokes and play loud obnoxious music until all you
|
||
can do is hit the strings and giggle). Sighhh...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: HI!!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 22:33:18
|
||
Message Number 8154
|
||
|
||
CPU>Again, sometime we need to get together some sort of pick-up, acoust
|
||
CPU>band.
|
||
|
||
Well let's do a poll and have a get together or something. I was trying
|
||
to get some of these dead-beats sown to the Dog House (Mulcahey's) on
|
||
Taco night or whatnot 'cause the owner was thoughtless enough to place
|
||
a drum set, an acoustic 6 string w/pickup, an Ibanez electric and a bass
|
||
guitar and a Casio keyboard complete with mikes and amps.
|
||
However - maybe it would be best to deafen somebodies neighbors first?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Homosexuality
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 22:37:40
|
||
Message Number 8155
|
||
|
||
CPU>does not give one whit of information about bisexuals.
|
||
|
||
Hmmm . I've known two bisexual people and both were females. I really
|
||
can't remember how they referred to their lovers. Oh well.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: weire
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 22:41:05
|
||
Message Number 8156
|
||
|
||
T> but because we can't get rid of it.
|
||
|
||
Do what the big boys do... call it a feature.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Yo! Furry Fen!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 22:46:34
|
||
Message Number 8157
|
||
|
||
Drool <pant>! Count me in! I *love* animation festivals. I've been
|
||
trying to get the European animation festivals on VHS (yes they're
|
||
available - but where?).
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Hemi's
|
||
Date & Time: 08/25/90 22:50:09
|
||
Message Number 8158
|
||
|
||
Nope - the 429 BOSS that I'm referring to was only produced for
|
||
2 years and was a twin overhead cam. They produced a limitd number
|
||
for NASCAR but then the rules changed. It was too expensive to re-tool
|
||
for NASCAR so it became somewhat of an orphan. Two boys in Tennessee
|
||
run these things in ProStock and have great success. You misunderstand
|
||
handicaps. They let the Mopar leave /first/ and the Ford has to try and
|
||
pass it.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: YNGLING
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: Heinlein
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 00:47:05
|
||
Message Number 8160
|
||
|
||
>Usually it helps if you look, listen, and feel - first!
|
||
And /then/ can I do mouth-to-mouth? ;>
|
||
The Yngling
|
||
[gee, if this thread continues much longer I'm gonna need a cold shower]
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: inane lyrics
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 10:07:24
|
||
Message Number 8166
|
||
|
||
Van Hagar sucks. at least with Roth there was a solidness there and
|
||
action in the songs, not like the now whimpering Hagar, who was once ver
|
||
y good.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: RAVEN
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 10:52:35
|
||
Message Number 8167
|
||
|
||
There's one thing you're leaving out: food. The Iraqis are most
|
||
certainly not self-sufficient. (Neither are the Kuwaitis.) IF the
|
||
economic blockade is successful (which it may not be), then the
|
||
Iraqis will have to stop fighting once their reserves of food run
|
||
out. We can survive without the Iraqi oil (though it will hurt!), but
|
||
they can't survive without our food.
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: War!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 10:56:09
|
||
Message Number 8168
|
||
|
||
>I hate war in any way, shape, or form... if they drafted me I
|
||
>wouldn't kill.
|
||
|
||
How strong are those ideals, Spellwind? Would you kill in self-
|
||
defense? If someone was torturing you to death, and the only way to
|
||
stop him would be by killing him (which, it's assumed, you have the
|
||
capability of doing...), would you?
|
||
What if you're thrown into a "kill or be killed" situation, similar
|
||
to what happened with many of our troops in Vietnam?
|
||
|
||
All I'm saying: thank God I'm 4-F -- and that I can get Mexican
|
||
citizenship really easily.
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Music
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 11:00:46
|
||
Message Number 8169
|
||
|
||
If ya don't mind an acoustic guitar player (or you've got a spare
|
||
electric one -- and don't mind waiting while I figure out the changes),
|
||
I'd love to jam with ya sometime. And I won't bring my cloak.
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Bisexuality
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 11:02:39
|
||
Message Number 8170
|
||
|
||
>Both [bisexuals] were females. I really can't remember how they
|
||
>referred to their lovers.
|
||
|
||
If male, "he". If female, "she". Simple, no? :>
|
||
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: Lacey
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 11:54:26
|
||
Message Number 8172
|
||
|
||
Which reminds me ... I saw William Shatner as "The Big Kahoona" (SP!?)
|
||
In some surfer movie ... Anyone know what it is?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Nuke Kids
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 12:00:29
|
||
Message Number 8173
|
||
|
||
(L)ucy in the (S)ky with (D)iamonds ....
|
||
|
||
NEED ANY MORE PROOF!?!?!?!? :)
|
||
|
||
I'm bbbbbbbbaaaaaaaccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: cat
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 12:01:37
|
||
Message Number 8174
|
||
|
||
> Cathrode Ray Tubes must be read heavy.
|
||
|
||
Really? That's what CRT stands for? Anyways, I didn't come up with the
|
||
name for the shoes ... It must be an acronym for something different...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: #?.INFO
|
||
Subject: HI!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 12:03:25
|
||
Message Number 8175
|
||
|
||
Hi all ... Just here to say I'm back alive in one piece! Good, eh?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 12:16:52
|
||
Message Number 8176
|
||
|
||
Hmm....Probably true.
|
||
-R-
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: inane lyrics
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 15:07:53
|
||
Message Number 8177
|
||
|
||
|
||
> I don't think Zot ignores the lyrics.
|
||
|
||
I should have put in the word "sometimes". He's told me that he often
|
||
listens to just the base line or just the music of a song.
|
||
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: cat
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 15:09:50
|
||
Message Number 8178
|
||
|
||
|
||
> (right next to the guy from the Crazy Glue ad).
|
||
|
||
Ghee! He's still there?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Music
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 15:17:41
|
||
Message Number 8181
|
||
|
||
> Well, can you run a drum machine?
|
||
|
||
Ghods! Don't say things like that! I wouldn't WANT to run a drum
|
||
machine. If its not something you can play, then keep it away from me.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Yo! Furry Fen!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 15:23:32
|
||
Message Number 8182
|
||
|
||
> if you buy 10 tickets, it's only $2 each, as opposed to $4 each.
|
||
|
||
Sounds nice and dandy. Who's going to drive? I'm interested in going
|
||
if nothing is prohibiting me from leaving here...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: Nuke Kids
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 15:33:34
|
||
Message Number 8183
|
||
|
||
> NEED ANY MORE PROOF!?!?!?!? :)
|
||
|
||
Yes. The spelling of a song title does nothing to advocate drug use.
|
||
|
||
Turtle, is this pretty much a given, or what? I think Ken here is
|
||
grabbing for something to support himself...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: help
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 15:47:16
|
||
Message Number 8184
|
||
|
||
Turtle, I know you work good with the inards of computers, but do you
|
||
know anything about VCRs? Something odd just happened to ours... I need
|
||
to find someone who might know what's wrong with it who won't charge a
|
||
fee to say "VCR fall down and go boom. I can do something for ya if you
|
||
give me five hundred dollars and don't sue me when it breaks next month"
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: YNGLING
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: HI!!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 15:55:00
|
||
Message Number 8185
|
||
|
||
RE: Jam Session @ The Dog House
|
||
The only thing I can play is the radio but I'd be happy to show up &
|
||
lend moral support (and help fight off the other patrons if ya'll
|
||
offend anyone with your playing - been too long since I was in a good
|
||
bar brawl anyhow). Let me know when you all plan to show.
|
||
The Yngling
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: YNGLING
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: weire
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 15:58:50
|
||
Message Number 8186
|
||
|
||
>...call it a feature
|
||
Hell yeah, and charge us double the normal admission price too! I say
|
||
somebody needs to start paying Turtle for all the weire he's providing.
|
||
Or maybe it would be best to hold a telethon or something......
|
||
The Yngling
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: YNGLING
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: inane lyrics
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 16:03:45
|
||
Message Number 8187
|
||
|
||
Hagar was /never/ any good.
|
||
The Yngling
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Animalism!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 16:42:51
|
||
Message Number 8189
|
||
|
||
:> Only you...welcome back. Missed you...
|
||
Lady
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Heinlein
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 16:49:53
|
||
Message Number 8190
|
||
|
||
Naughty - naughty...didn't you learn anything?
|
||
;)
|
||
Lace
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 16:53:57
|
||
Message Number 8191
|
||
|
||
You'll never know.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: Heinlein
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 17:00:14
|
||
Message Number 8192
|
||
|
||
Yes, /then/ you do the mouth-to-mouth.).
|
||
Lady
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: HI!!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 17:05:21
|
||
Message Number 8193
|
||
|
||
JONBOY...If you need a violinist, I could help...I fool around with the
|
||
drums a bit...a good friend of mine is in a band...really excellent
|
||
drummer....if you'd like, I'll give him a call.
|
||
LADY
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Yo! Furry Fen!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 21:17:01
|
||
Message Number 8194
|
||
|
||
Well, for "Akira" we had, lesse, nine furry folks, plus some other
|
||
weird folks.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: cat
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 21:26:30
|
||
Message Number 8195
|
||
|
||
>It [CRT] most be an acronym for something different...
|
||
|
||
Crappy Reebok Tennis shoes. Yep, just like (L)ucy in the (S)ky with
|
||
(D)iamonds. yep, yep, yep...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: cat
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 21:28:20
|
||
Message Number 8196
|
||
|
||
> Ghee! He's [the Crazy Glue guy] still there?
|
||
|
||
Yea, seems the glue seeped into his head. They can't move him.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: Heinlein
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 21:31:25
|
||
Message Number 8197
|
||
|
||
>Naughty - naughty...
|
||
|
||
Boy, you know how to flatter (sp?) a guy. Your sooooo sweet (and cute).
|
||
|
||
Yes, tommorow, I'm going to catch hell.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: Iggmawaulder
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 21:33:52
|
||
Message Number 8198
|
||
|
||
Few patrons notice the man who enters the bar. When I see him
|
||
pull out a gun I say "Nuuhh...Huuh....GUN!" Mulligan spins around to
|
||
face the man just in time to have the bullet graze his right hip.
|
||
After making a nasty mess of Mulligan's hip, the bullet goes through my
|
||
coat, the bar behind, and stops with a shattering of glass. Mulligan,
|
||
with a trickle of blood running down his uniform, ignores the minor
|
||
wound and heads toward the rude guest. Turtle comments, "He sure
|
||
doesn't look happy. You know, this reminds me of a heavy metal song."
|
||
"Arrghh! My coat, my nice coat" I say, adding "They need some gun
|
||
control around here." Looking down, I notice a dwarf. "ZOT! It's
|
||
ZOT!"
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Nuke Kids
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 21:48:52
|
||
Message Number 8199
|
||
|
||
Next he'll use, "I get high with a little help from my friends"
|
||
Which, of course, means High on life.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: inane lyrics
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 21:50:37
|
||
Message Number 8200
|
||
|
||
I don't know.... I liked (the song) I can't drive 55..
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: My-Mytha-hmm
|
||
Date & Time: 08/26/90 21:54:23
|
||
Message Number 8201
|
||
|
||
Where can I get a Mythag Myth Mythagosomethingorother??
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/27/90 00:03:00
|
||
Message Number 8202
|
||
|
||
Sir...
|
||
|
||
I am aware of the origin of "-phobe" words...as anyone else who uses
|
||
the English language is.
|
||
To use the expression "bullshit term" is rather of a crude way of
|
||
saying that the term described (in this case 'homophobe') is a
|
||
nonsense word. The word has little semantic value...other than what
|
||
the gay community can glean from it.
|
||
Let me elaborate on what I mean. The word was made up with the
|
||
specific intent to make those who oppose abnormality (in this case
|
||
the normal people) look like there was something mentally wrong with
|
||
them, rather than the ones who were morally devoid and mentally
|
||
deficient to start with.
|
||
|
||
I don't even know why you brought that word (for lack of a
|
||
better expression) up.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Homosexuality
|
||
Date & Time: 08/27/90 00:11:11
|
||
Message Number 8203
|
||
|
||
Oh, shit...here we go again.
|
||
|
||
The lifestyle you described is an admirable one, indeed. If you
|
||
can find me a gay who lives like that, then I will not call him scum.
|
||
As a matter of fact I don't recall using the word scum. Although, if
|
||
I have, I probably was describing another type of individual.
|
||
|
||
CPU>Prove me wrong. Say that one's sexual preference is not the
|
||
most important thing about oneself.
|
||
|
||
What? How would that be proving you wrong? I see that you are
|
||
attempting to class me into the nonsense term you used earlier.
|
||
The term means nothing. I think that you have been reading too
|
||
much of "The Jabberwocky" again....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Homosexuality
|
||
Date & Time: 08/27/90 00:16:35
|
||
Message Number 8204
|
||
|
||
CPU>...I don't see how it's my place to try to change others away from
|
||
CPU>it.
|
||
What's your point? What has that got to do with my post to you?
|
||
|
||
CPU>What was I doing with him in the first place? His brother died; he
|
||
CPU>desperately needed to talk with someone.
|
||
|
||
"Talk"? He needed to "bed" you...the guy was really in mourning.
|
||
Yeah, bullshit. Scum. If my brother died, I wouldn't invite some chick
|
||
over on the pretenses of "I need to talk to someone" and then try to
|
||
screw her. That's pretty low.
|
||
|
||
CPU>...that shakes the boundaries...
|
||
|
||
Yeah, it sure does. Scum.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: RAVEN
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/27/90 00:27:29
|
||
Message Number 8205
|
||
|
||
1. The Afghan rebels were outnumbered and outclassed
|
||
Yes, they were. But they were also cohesive. All of them were on
|
||
the same side. Let me remind you that S.H. is not a popular leader.
|
||
R>the lenght of the battle depends on how long S.H. wants
|
||
More garbage. If we go to war, there will be no extended war. We
|
||
will invade, and we will take the country. The war will be on OUR
|
||
terms.
|
||
2. Afghans had significantly fewer resources and were fighting on home
|
||
territory.
|
||
Again, yees. But they got their resources from the Soviets, were wer
|
||
who were careless.
|
||
R>Iraqis are more familiar with...the military tactics that desert
|
||
fighting requires more than the US or Allied forces.
|
||
So what are you saying, that the US will lose more scirmishes because
|
||
they don't know desert tactics? Wrong. The US military trains
|
||
everywhere. They are as prepared as the Iraqis (if not more) and can
|
||
handle them on "thier own turf".
|
||
R>Nam was considered a "paint by numbers" thing...
|
||
Where are you getting your information? We actually did very well in
|
||
Viet Nam. We could have won the war except for POLITICAL considerations
|
||
(we didn't want to rile the USSR). As a matter of fact, the Tet
|
||
offensive was more of a loss for the VC because they lost more troops
|
||
than we did! As a matter of fact, casualties of the VC side were
|
||
more than all of our injuries and casualties combined!
|
||
|
||
Honestly, I don't know where you get your info....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: RAVEN
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/27/90 00:38:38
|
||
Message Number 8206
|
||
|
||
Do you know what SOP stands for?
|
||
|
||
Actually, the figure for intrusive agents is a little higher than that,
|
||
(about 100 min) but thats plent of time to get out of a contaminated
|
||
area. And I don't know what type of mask you have but if it's an
|
||
M17 then you have old, obsolete equipment. The new masks are much
|
||
more comfortable, and you can see much more through them. Also,
|
||
they are easier to chage the filter on, and better sealing.
|
||
And I hope that you never have to wear one, either. Really.
|
||
|
||
You oughta check your info first...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: RAVEN
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/27/90 00:41:39
|
||
Message Number 8207
|
||
|
||
R>As you are deinately afraid of gays (or so your attitude has lead
|
||
R>us to believe) homophobe is an accurate discription.
|
||
|
||
And you, sir, are also full of shit. (Proved by your trying to
|
||
distribute misinformation on military information.) I don't understand
|
||
why you use the word afraid? That is why "homophobe" is such a
|
||
misnomer. It makes no sense! How can anyone be "afraid" of a faggot?
|
||
Pansy assed cock suckers. (or pussy lickers, take your choice.)
|
||
|
||
R>I thought you were dropping this thread?
|
||
|
||
I tried. I did try. You (plural) won't let me. Between you & Chip,
|
||
I have to pick the damn thing up again.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/27/90 00:46:10
|
||
Message Number 8208
|
||
|
||
SW>Come now...I hate war in any way, shape or form... if they drafted
|
||
SW>me I wouldn't kill.
|
||
|
||
Then you would die. And in the process would be responsible for
|
||
someone elses death. But if you wanted to die, no one could stop you.
|
||
|
||
Nah, you'd kill. I'd bet any money. You
|
||
would.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: HI!!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/27/90 00:49:47
|
||
Message Number 8209
|
||
|
||
Lemme get this straight...the guy over at the Dog House will let you use
|
||
the equipment on the stage? Awesome! When do you want to Jam, I'll
|
||
be there!!!!!!!!!!!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: inane lyrics
|
||
Date & Time: 08/27/90 01:04:22
|
||
Message Number 8211
|
||
|
||
OH, man, are you forgetting "Heavy Metal"? Oh, PU-Leeese!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: Appearances
|
||
Date & Time: 08/27/90 01:23:21
|
||
Message Number 8212
|
||
|
||
BM>You'll never know.
|
||
|
||
Ah, that'd make me one of the few, then...
|
||
|
||
Promiscu
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: AJ-<TOPGUN>-
|
||
To: BIG LEW
|
||
Subject: Gays
|
||
Date & Time: 08/27/90 02:56:42
|
||
Message Number 8213
|
||
|
||
Well Big Lew, I tell you, some people are just sometimes just as scared
|
||
about telling their "family or friends" as them finding out before they
|
||
found the "right moment" to tell them... My advice to you is to just do
|
||
your normal day to day things and not worry about it..Apparently your
|
||
Sis is feeling the same way you are right now..(confused, what should I
|
||
say..etc.)..Give it time. (smile)..Yes its ok that you prefer to remain
|
||
your ananimity (sp)..Chat anytime or if you have some questions..I am
|
||
very open and never feel uncomfortable about someone asking personal
|
||
questions about my lifestyle.
|
||
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: AJ-<TOPGUN>-
|
||
To: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
Subject: LUV Connection
|
||
Date & Time: 08/27/90 03:04:02
|
||
Message Number 8214
|
||
|
||
The LUV Connection XXX BBS
|
||
Online 24 Hours 300/1200/2400
|
||
|
||
813-755-3289
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CRYSTAL
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Mythagoras
|
||
Date & Time: 08/27/90 14:28:41
|
||
Message Number 8215
|
||
|
||
You can get a copy at the Time Machine. It will cost you $3.50.
|
||
* CRYSTAL *
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/27/90 18:59:56
|
||
Message Number 8216
|
||
|
||
S>
|
||
S>And you, sir, are also full of shit.
|
||
|
||
Hmm. My 'misinformation' is obtained through _very_ reliable sources.
|
||
I do really enjoy watching you get reduced to incoherent babbeling, as
|
||
it means that you are no longer able to find a logical support for your
|
||
stand.
|
||
|
||
S>How can anyone be "afraid" of a faggot?
|
||
|
||
That's _exactly_ what we have been trying to find out!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Heinlein
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 16:08:40
|
||
Message Number 8217
|
||
|
||
Yeah, well, I gave you some hell today...I guess I'll really have to
|
||
get you tomorrow! :>
|
||
Lacey
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Appearances
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 16:09:31
|
||
Message Number 8218
|
||
|
||
If you are insinuating that I sleep around, my dear, you are quite
|
||
wrong...you don't know me well enough to even comment on my personal
|
||
life.
|
||
Black Magic
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: YNGLING
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Vietnam
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 17:01:46
|
||
Message Number 8220
|
||
|
||
We did NOT do "very well" in Vietnam - despite what your D.I.'s or T.O.
|
||
or whatever the hell the Army calls them these days told you. We got
|
||
our asses kicked for many reasons ( including political considerations )
|
||
the most important of which was the 365 day rotation policy. We kept
|
||
reinventing the wheel every 365 days. Just when our troops became
|
||
accustomed to the situation and figured out how to fight the damn war
|
||
(oops! that's "police action") we sent them home and shipped in a new
|
||
bunch of cherries who couldnt cross a rice paddy w/o stepping on their
|
||
dicks. Of course there was also the problem of inept officers who were
|
||
more concerned with getting their CIB than getting the job done...and a
|
||
civilian population that hated our guts...and the fact that we were sup-
|
||
porting a corrupt government...and then there was the ARVN...well, let's
|
||
just say that to blame the final outcome of the Vietnam conflict on
|
||
political considerations alone is about as informed as Raven's comparing
|
||
the current Middle East situation with Vietnam.
|
||
The Yngling
|
||
"They called in the Air Farce to clear out Hue City,
|
||
The Air Farce arrived on the scene.
|
||
They bombed out three ridges,
|
||
Two villes, and some bridges,
|
||
And seven platoons of Marines!"
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: YNGLING
|
||
To: CRYSTAL
|
||
Subject: ...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 17:15:51
|
||
Message Number 8221
|
||
|
||
Crystal,
|
||
I realized the other afternoon ( after I hung up ) that I hadnt wished
|
||
you "good luck" re: the phone call you were waiting for. Sorry, and
|
||
Good Luck. :)
|
||
The Yngling
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Music
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 18:49:05
|
||
Message Number 8222
|
||
|
||
You lie! You would LOVE a drum machine ... Remember how much you liked
|
||
the one at Jon's house? Drum machines are just bigger and have about
|
||
20 or so drum pads on 'em instead of 10 keys....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Nuke Kids
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 18:50:57
|
||
Message Number 8223
|
||
|
||
You're obviously just a babbling relative of Mike Greenwald... :)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: cat
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 18:53:14
|
||
Message Number 8224
|
||
|
||
Dip.
|
||
Dip.
|
||
Dip.
|
||
Dip.
|
||
Dip.
|
||
Dip.
|
||
Dip.
|
||
Di
|
||
p.
|
||
D
|
||
i
|
||
p
|
||
.
|
||
D
|
||
i
|
||
p
|
||
\*/
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 18:56:59
|
||
Message Number 8225
|
||
|
||
> ... rather than the ones who were morally devoid and mentally
|
||
> deficient to start with.
|
||
|
||
SO you are saying people who aren't homophobic of gay people are
|
||
"morally devoid" and "mentally deficient"!?!?!?!
|
||
|
||
Naughty naughty naughty ... That's not nice, Dave...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 19:28:13
|
||
Message Number 8226
|
||
|
||
> trying to distribute misinformation on...
|
||
|
||
What someone does or doesn't know about the millitary has NOTHING to
|
||
do with their ability to argue about homosexuality.
|
||
|
||
> How can you be afraid...?
|
||
|
||
Voop! Voop! Voop! Non-sequitur alert!
|
||
Sure, I see what YOU mean. You don't think they are a part of life as
|
||
we know it, so they aren't going to be a part of your life period.
|
||
That's manifest bullshit (tm). There can be someone who is a perfectly
|
||
fine person, and their sexual preference has nothing to do with it... Do
|
||
you hate people because they might be an alcoholic?? That goes by your
|
||
way of pegging homosexuality as a sickness...
|
||
|
||
And about dropping the thread. I don't mind reading these messages. I
|
||
LIKE reading these messages. Chip is still willing to debate this topic
|
||
also... I suppose you are the one who wants to drop it, right? I guess
|
||
that's up to you, I guess. But I don't want you to feel you must drop it
|
||
because NOONE wants to see it. I /do/.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: Music
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 19:38:01
|
||
Message Number 8227
|
||
|
||
|
||
> have about 20 or so pads on 'em...
|
||
|
||
Yeah, but you can PLAY that. You don't just turn it on and say "Oh,
|
||
I'll let it play this beat every four seconds for the next two hours."
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: dip?
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 19:40:00
|
||
Message Number 8228
|
||
|
||
> Dip.
|
||
> Dip.
|
||
> Dip.
|
||
> ...etc.
|
||
|
||
Is the only thing you can tink of when you can't support your position
|
||
an insult??
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: Heinlein
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 21:54:29
|
||
Message Number 8229
|
||
|
||
>Yeah, well, I gave you some hell today...
|
||
|
||
When, where? I didn't notice any hell.
|
||
|
||
>I guess I'll really have to get you tommorow! :>
|
||
|
||
Well, there's /one/ thing to look forward to tommorow.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: Uncle Bob's
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 21:58:43
|
||
Message Number 8230
|
||
|
||
Welp, Uncle Bob's Alligator Farm and Tofu Museum will be down untill
|
||
Wednesday night. The Great Aardvark found it fit to piss on my hard
|
||
disk (ie, the hard drive crashed, big time). I can restore the BBS, but
|
||
the backups are from August 16th. Sigh.......
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: YNGLING
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Homosexual
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 22:29:32
|
||
Message Number 8231
|
||
|
||
Specialist,
|
||
I left this message on Rufus' Bbs but since it crashed I'm leaving it
|
||
here also to make sure you get it.
|
||
You made a comment on Uncle Bob's that said "homos arent human."
|
||
For the last couple weeks you've been arguing that homosexuality is
|
||
an illness. With that comment, I can't help but wonder if you would
|
||
also say that epileptics are not human or that cancer patients are not
|
||
human? Or has your insistence that homosexuality is a "sickness" been
|
||
merely manifest bullshit (tm) ?
|
||
If you are saying that anyone who suffers from an illness doesnt
|
||
qualify as "human," well then bud you just joined the ranks of Saddam
|
||
Hussein in the "Pissing Off The Wrong People Dept."
|
||
If it was merely bullshit manifested in an attempt to lend legitimacy
|
||
to your arguements then I guess maybe you are just another ignorant
|
||
homophobe.
|
||
The Yngling
|
||
P.S. In case you're wondering - do I like homosexuals? Not particularly
|
||
. Do I persecute them? Nope, I just keep my distance as long as
|
||
they keep theirs. Personally they turn my stomach but I don't
|
||
tell other people what to do in the privacy of their own homes.
|
||
I'm willing to bet there's people that would be outraged at some
|
||
of the things I've done in my bedroom but as long as I don't
|
||
force 'em to watch or do it on the concourse at Desoto Square
|
||
Mall its none of their fucking business (no pun intended).
|
||
T.Y.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 23:03:24
|
||
Message Number 8232
|
||
|
||
Alright, I've heard about enough. Who are you to say what's
|
||
<Normal>? I believe there's no such thing as <Normal>, and even if I
|
||
did, I wouldn't follow YOUR Bigoted, Conceited way.
|
||
Black, White, Red , Yellow, Green, Straight, Bi, Gay..... HUMAN.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Homosexuality
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 23:07:26
|
||
Message Number 8233
|
||
|
||
You're no 'Homophobe', you're just bigoted.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: RAVEN
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 23:14:21
|
||
Message Number 8234
|
||
|
||
Hmm, Ya'all think, The Specialist is Mike Greenwald?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: Vietnam
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 23:16:41
|
||
Message Number 8235
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
Dedicated to: The Women of Ireland
|
||
|
||
I'll taaake you hoome agaain cathleeeeen....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: Appearances
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 23:31:27
|
||
Message Number 8236
|
||
|
||
Actually, I must apologise...sorry. I read my message when I logged on
|
||
and found that part of a word that I wanted to leave out was still
|
||
included....
|
||
|
||
The only reason that I even posted that was because I was trying to
|
||
make a joke...again, sorry if I implied the wrong thing.
|
||
|
||
You are quite right...I don't know you well enough to comment on your
|
||
personal life. It just strikes me as humorous that you have such a
|
||
good flirtatious rappore with a lot of the guys.
|
||
|
||
By the way, the sentence that I was going to write was:
|
||
"Promiscuity is not what I am referring to." But my backspace key and
|
||
my return key are close together, and I hit the return by mistake so I
|
||
just decided to leave the line out (it was late and I didn't fell like
|
||
(SP FEEL) like messing with it).
|
||
|
||
"Please understand...I hold you in the highest respect."
|
||
|
||
P.S. to all the guys: Look guys, don't jump on my case about this...it
|
||
was an honest mistake. I'm sure that many of you will come to BM's
|
||
defence...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: deficient
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 23:39:19
|
||
Message Number 8237
|
||
|
||
No, I was not.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: Homosexual
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 23:41:56
|
||
Message Number 8238
|
||
|
||
No, just homos.
|
||
And where do people get the idea that I'm trying to tell them what
|
||
to do? I NEVER said, "Ok, all you homos, STOP THAT!" They can do
|
||
what they damnwell please...I think they are sick, but (AS ALWAYS)
|
||
|
||
|
||
THATS JUST MY OPINION!!!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/28/90 23:43:54
|
||
Message Number 8239
|
||
|
||
OK. That's it. EVERBODY LISTEN UP.
|
||
|
||
(THis includes Beatle, Ken, Chip, Max, Turtle, Spellwind, BM, Raven
|
||
and every other ASSHOLE who's been on my case!)
|
||
|
||
1. I am not a homophobe.
|
||
2. I do not like homos. I think that they qualify for the "less than
|
||
human award" for acting less than human (in ways which I will not
|
||
bother to describe in detail).
|
||
3. I have never TOLD any GAY *not* to be gay...I have told them what I
|
||
think of thier actions (and everybody else) and will CONTINUE to do
|
||
so.
|
||
3. I am sick and FUCKING tired of having to argue my position, which is
|
||
based on OPINION and EMOTION. (Not on logic, mind you, because my
|
||
position SURE as HELL is not LOGICAL. So stop trying to pick it
|
||
apart with logic; you can't argue with a crazy man!)
|
||
4. I am not going to change my OPINION in the future, so stop trying to
|
||
"explain
|
||
"explain" your respective points of view to me! (Explain-hah! You
|
||
are badgering me to death!)
|
||
|
||
PS: Raven, did you enjoy this particular blather? I hope so, because it
|
||
is the last time I will say anything further about the issue of
|
||
homosexuality. Period.
|
||
|
||
5. So if you guys like the term, homophobe, use it to your hearts
|
||
desire. I am confident in the knowledge that I am not.
|
||
|
||
|
||
Have fun!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: HI!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 00:02:35
|
||
Message Number 8240
|
||
|
||
>Just here to say I'm back alive in one piece!
|
||
|
||
If you want, we can solve that problem for you... :)
|
||
|
||
Seriously, Ken, welcome back! Good to see ya again (methaphorically
|
||
speaking, of course.)
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Music
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 00:04:57
|
||
Message Number 8241
|
||
|
||
>If its not something you can play, then keep it away from me.
|
||
|
||
Hmm... this opens up a new line of thought. What's the difference
|
||
between 'playing' an instrument and just 'running' one? For example,
|
||
you said you just 'run' a drum machine. What about synthesizer? Most
|
||
of 'em (Well, the good ones, anyway) have one-key "harmony" sections
|
||
where they keep a moving base line, play chords in the rhythm you
|
||
choose, and usually keep a full percussion sound afterwards. Are you
|
||
really 'playing' anything there?
|
||
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn, who plays a guitar made by 16th-century methods.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Yo! Furry Fen!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 00:08:48
|
||
Message Number 8242
|
||
|
||
Beatle-
|
||
If you give me directions, the Green B*tch and I will pick you up.
|
||
|
||
Anyway, y'all -- which weekend is best for the movie?
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: help
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 00:10:20
|
||
Message Number 8243
|
||
|
||
I might (big might) be able to help. I've worked at a video store for
|
||
five or six years. (My parents'.) What's wrong with it?
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: Animalism!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 00:11:43
|
||
Message Number 8244
|
||
|
||
My beautiful Lady,
|
||
'Seeing but the flicker of thine eye has made my months of
|
||
modem deprivation worthwhile. Thank thee!
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: HI!!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 00:13:32
|
||
Message Number 8245
|
||
|
||
The only questions: How well can you improvise? Personally, I'm
|
||
interested in any kind of band, but I prefer acoustic music to
|
||
electrical...
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
|
||
Oh, yeah -- the other question. Has anyone told you today that you
|
||
have beautiful eyes?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 00:18:10
|
||
Message Number 8246
|
||
|
||
First and foremost, the term 'homophobe' is neither a bullshit term,
|
||
nor does it lack semantic value. For this, I refer you to my original
|
||
letter.
|
||
Second, it was not created by the homosexual community. It was
|
||
appropriated by the homosexual community (much as the word "furry" has
|
||
been by ours), but the original, psychological meaning still lies at
|
||
its root. (That is, one who fears homosexuals.) For this, I refer you
|
||
to my original letter.
|
||
Third, as a psychological term (which is how I wish to use it), it
|
||
makes no value judgements about either homosexuality or the fear
|
||
thereof. For this, I refer you to my original letter.
|
||
Fourth, some moralities in the world condemn homosexuality. But, so
|
||
far as I know, none literally fear it. That is, if you were a perfectly
|
||
moral person, it would still be morally proper to be acquaintences --
|
||
even friends -- with a homosexual, in the same manner as being
|
||
acquaintences with those who break laws, are disrespectful to their
|
||
parents, or disagree with the prevailing opinion. For this, I refer
|
||
you back to my original letter.
|
||
Yours truly,
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: AJ-<TOPGUN>-
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Specialist
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 02:34:29
|
||
Message Number 8249
|
||
|
||
|
||
You think that the Specialist is Mike Greenawald??
|
||
No, he is not
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: AJ-<TOPGUN>-
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: NEW BBS
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 02:40:50
|
||
Message Number 8250
|
||
|
||
Grand Re-Opening...THE LUV CONNECTION XXX BBS
|
||
300/1200/2400 24hours (except Natnl Mail Hours)
|
||
Call today.....813-755-3289
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CRYSTAL
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: Thanks.
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 10:50:48
|
||
Message Number 8252
|
||
|
||
Well thank you, it is now Wednesday, and I am still awaiting the
|
||
call. This is the part I hate most. I do thank you for the wish, I
|
||
have been told she (the business manager) wants to hire me, and they
|
||
are in need of someone soon, but that can also be the problem, not
|
||
enough time to go through the formalities of a new hire, due to so much
|
||
work to do. Again thank you and I do hope the board will not have to be
|
||
down during the day too much longer, for my sake and all of the faithful
|
||
users on this system.
|
||
* CRYSTAL *
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: MAX
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Furrys
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 17:11:32
|
||
Message Number 8253
|
||
|
||
The story (with the human and feline alien) is called "Only With Thine
|
||
Eyes." I can give you a copy of the most recent version of the story
|
||
(about a year and a half old at this point), from FurVersion 14....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: MAX
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 17:25:37
|
||
Message Number 8254
|
||
|
||
NBC suits are expected to withstand 30-60 minutes of "intense" exposure
|
||
to chemical weapons, so it'd be closer to what Raven is saying, not what
|
||
you're saying. /This/ information comes from Dwight Dutton, a chemical
|
||
warfare engineer with Special Forces who's on his way out to Saudi
|
||
Arabia now. 100 minutes is possible, but it sounds decidedly
|
||
optimistic. Of course, gas would be likely to dissipate within an hour
|
||
after use anyway, so it's not (necessarily) as bad as it sounds.
|
||
Also, of course, a caveat is that those suits have never been tested
|
||
against BIOLOGICAL weapons, and the Pentagon doesn't really think they
|
||
offer any serious protection against germ warfare (this according to the
|
||
newest issue of Newsweek).
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: MAX
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Furrys
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 17:29:20
|
||
Message Number 8255
|
||
|
||
I'd assume that Reli /is/ based on chromosomes, as I can't imagine any
|
||
life form being that close to humans (especially seeing as how we're
|
||
talking about an alternate earth story) yet possessing a completely
|
||
alien structure. Chip's argument makes a good devil's advocate line,
|
||
but the best response is still, "the author says she ain't a big
|
||
housecat, even if she looks like one." It's easier to think of her as
|
||
a cat, just like it's easier to think of Vincent from Beauty & the
|
||
Beast as a cat-person (or a whatever-person) than to wrack your brains
|
||
trying to work out what his relations to humans, and felines, really is
|
||
at a chromosome level.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: MAX
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: inane lyrics
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 17:37:56
|
||
Message Number 8256
|
||
|
||
With Roth there was dribble. With Sammy Hagar, we get "Love Walks In"
|
||
and "Dreams." With Roth, we get... "Jamie's Cryin'". It may be
|
||
telling that the best songs VH did with Roth were covers of other
|
||
peoples' tunes...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: MAX
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Okay.
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 17:53:58
|
||
Message Number 8257
|
||
|
||
A long and very nasty spew I wrote to you on Uncle Bob's crashed with
|
||
the hard drive. This is probably just as well. You got off your
|
||
parting rant -- allow me the courtesy of saying something, in a non-
|
||
ranting, and hopefully non-offensive way, that hasn't occurred to you.
|
||
|
||
Some of my friends are gay and bisexual. Every time you posted some
|
||
absolute bullshit about "faggots," as far as I was concerned you were
|
||
insulting them. You say you didn't call them "scum," but you pretty
|
||
much implied it, didn't you? You said point blank that you KNEW that
|
||
nothing good could come from "them."
|
||
|
||
All my point is that unless you /are/ willing to talk to "them," to see
|
||
whether or not your point is right, you don't have any business making
|
||
it. Whether you choose to believe it or not, I /did/ have the same
|
||
attitude you did, and I know from experience that a refusal to challenge
|
||
your own assumptions is a kind of fear -- it's easier to hate than to
|
||
admit that maybe, just maybe, you're overstating things a bit.
|
||
|
||
If I kept your attitude, I wouldn't have some of the friends I have now.
|
||
Some of them mean a lot to me. If I have seemed personally offended by
|
||
some of the things you say, it's only because I was. I know for a fact
|
||
you're more intelligent than you've been acting. Quite frankly, your
|
||
"homos aren't human" comment pissed me off a great deal because the
|
||
"homos" that I know act a great deal more human than you have been
|
||
through this little spew. Continue in your blindness if you like, but
|
||
do NOT continue insulting friends of mine whom you are unwilling to meet
|
||
because they are (gasp) different from you. They deserve better.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Uncle Bob's
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 18:07:09
|
||
Message Number 8258
|
||
|
||
Yes, I'm talking to myself. Todays magic words are:
|
||
recent backups
|
||
back-ups of all your files
|
||
working hardware
|
||
|
||
I wish I had just one of those, but, alas, I don't.
|
||
This means the BBS will be down for a few days.
|
||
BTW, does anyone have a working Apple // SCSI card I could borrow for
|
||
ONE day? It'd be real nice.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 18:10:25
|
||
Message Number 8259
|
||
|
||
> Hmm, Ya'all think, The Specialist is Mike Greenwald?
|
||
|
||
The Specialist is not Mike Greenawald.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Yo! Furry Fen!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 18:14:37
|
||
Message Number 8260
|
||
|
||
Ahh, the Green B*tch, the one car you don't want to call 'shotgun' for.
|
||
Actually, there is an Anime meeting tommorow night. There won't be
|
||
any anime, but there will be coke and poptarts, and discusion about the
|
||
magazine. I suppose we can make this a group thing of some sorts...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: HI!!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 18:16:31
|
||
Message Number 8261
|
||
|
||
>Has anyone told you today that you have beautiful eyes?
|
||
|
||
Your just gonna get her real angry. Have you seen her shoulder? Now,
|
||
that is what I call cute.
|
||
|
||
<Waiting to get hit yet again, making it 3 out of 4 days.>
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 19:28:14
|
||
Message Number 8264
|
||
|
||
Specialist, I'll never call you a Homophobe.....Just a bigot.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 19:31:10
|
||
Message Number 8265
|
||
|
||
|
||
But he's not afraid of them, he just hates them....and that makes him
|
||
a BIGOT.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: MAX
|
||
Subject: inane lyrics
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 19:35:13
|
||
Message Number 8266
|
||
|
||
PANAMA! PANAMA-A!
|
||
|
||
With Hagar there were whiney please songs. With Roth at least the
|
||
music fit the Rock category...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: MAX
|
||
Subject: Okay.
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 19:37:58
|
||
Message Number 8267
|
||
|
||
If his way is right..Why is everyone against him.......
|
||
|
||
Specialist : Bigot
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|
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|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Yo! Furry Fen!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 19:39:47
|
||
Message Number 8268
|
||
|
||
COKE AND POPTARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I Go?????
|
||
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|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Music
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 20:44:59
|
||
Message Number 8270
|
||
|
||
|
||
In my opinion, when you sit down and tell a machine to play something
|
||
over and over, that is not so great, and I don't /really/ care for it.
|
||
It can be useful, but I don't want to do it. If you can get a thing to
|
||
play back rhythms or melodies and you physically do something to play
|
||
accompaniment, then you are playing an instrument.
|
||
I don't want to program a drum machine. I don't consider some types of
|
||
electronic drums "drum machines." While they may literally be machines,
|
||
they have drum pads, and you can hit them with drumsticks. On a
|
||
computer, you "play" the drums by hitting the keys.
|
||
|
||
-- An "I wanna be a drummer" Beatle
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: help
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 20:49:16
|
||
Message Number 8271
|
||
|
||
|
||
No need. I can't believe my cheapskate parents actually PAID someone
|
||
to look at it. I just hope that it works when we get it back. The first
|
||
VCR we ever had was worked on, and then it never worked properly again.
|
||
We took it back six or seven times before we just said "screw it" and
|
||
kept it "as is". It's now a pile in the living room... (my father was
|
||
tinkering with it a few weeks back)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: MAX
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Yo! Furry Fen!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 21:31:39
|
||
Message Number 8272
|
||
|
||
The anime meeting is at Perkins. No Coke and Pop-Tarts.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: MAX
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: inane lyrics
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 21:34:32
|
||
Message Number 8273
|
||
|
||
"Panama" was an awful song, and avery typical Roth one....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Yo! Furry Fen!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 22:13:01
|
||
Message Number 8274
|
||
|
||
> COKE AND POPTARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I Go?????
|
||
|
||
Well, change of plans. There will be no Coke, and no pop-tarts.
|
||
|
||
....well, maybe some Coke, and I'm not stopping you from going.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: MAX
|
||
Subject: Yo! Furry Fen!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 22:15:12
|
||
Message Number 8275
|
||
|
||
>The anime meeting is at Perkins. No Coke and Pop-Tarts.
|
||
|
||
I posted that message before I found out it was changed to Perkins. You
|
||
know, the anime group is much more organized than the furry group. The
|
||
anime folk warn you the day before of changes. The furry group might
|
||
mention it an hour before. The anime group ORGANIZES things, the furry
|
||
group doesn't. It's a wonder Mythagoras gets off the ground. Just how
|
||
do you do it? Lemme guess, Bart's not in charge?
|
||
|
||
|
||
And Mike Greenawald, don't tell me I'm putrid scum and should kill
|
||
myself because of the "Bart in charge" comment.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TERRY
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: HD/controller
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 22:44:41
|
||
Message Number 8276
|
||
|
||
Hey does any one know where I can get a hd/controller/used preferred.
|
||
also if any one needs vcr/tv/monitors/computers/steroes/ worked on call
|
||
me I give free estimates most repaires done in home or offices. leave me
|
||
e-mail.
|
||
terry
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TERRY
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: VH-1
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 22:49:45
|
||
Message Number 8277
|
||
|
||
Hi 'Lady' how are you doing I thought i'd pop in and say high.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: AJ-<TOPGUN>-
|
||
To: MAX
|
||
Subject: Letter
|
||
Date & Time: 08/29/90 23:14:41
|
||
Message Number 8278
|
||
|
||
I just read your letter on your "stance" on gay friends, I must say it
|
||
was well written...
|
||
|
||
Thank you...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Hutchinson's
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 17:35:06
|
||
Message Number 8280
|
||
|
||
We took our VCR To Curtis Mathes, They were going to charge us $160.
|
||
We took it to Hutchinsons who held it like 2 days and charged $40, and
|
||
it works perfectly.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: MAX
|
||
Subject: inane lyrics
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 17:37:32
|
||
Message Number 8281
|
||
|
||
But it was 'Fun'. Music by commie basher Hagar is Crying nowadays,
|
||
Whimpering is better.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Yo! Furry Fen!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 17:39:36
|
||
Message Number 8282
|
||
|
||
Where and When?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 20:05:43
|
||
Message Number 8283
|
||
|
||
If you're really interested in stopping the "homophobe" discussions,
|
||
which you seem to be, then simply don't answer any mail about it.
|
||
Including this one. Right now, you seem to be the only person (with
|
||
your opinion.
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Green b*tch
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 20:12:25
|
||
Message Number 8284
|
||
|
||
Ah... what's wrong with calling 'shotgun' in my car? Knees can't
|
||
take it?
|
||
Seriously, my father has fixed (kinda sorta -- jurry rigged something
|
||
) that fixes the problem.
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 20:14:28
|
||
Message Number 8285
|
||
|
||
>But he's not afraid of them, he jut hates them...
|
||
|
||
That's the same thing as a pedophobe.
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Yo! Furry Fen!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 20:17:31
|
||
Message Number 8286
|
||
|
||
>The anime folk warn you the day before of changes. The furry group
|
||
>might mention it an hour before.
|
||
|
||
Yes, but do you see how much more relaxed the furry group actually
|
||
is?
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Music
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 20:23:04
|
||
Message Number 8287
|
||
|
||
Gotta call from The Specialist today - we ought to figure a time and
|
||
place. Maybe after I get the carpet cleaned...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: HI!!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 20:26:45
|
||
Message Number 8288
|
||
|
||
YNG>I'd be happy to show up & lend moral support
|
||
|
||
Awrighhhtttt!!! Now if we can get more - heck with it we party down!
|
||
How many of y'all wanna get together and party?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: weire
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 20:28:36
|
||
Message Number 8289
|
||
|
||
YNG>start paying Turtle for all the weire he's providing... hold a
|
||
YNG>telethon or something......
|
||
|
||
Ummmm - how does "Support Turtle's Weire" with a smiling Yngling
|
||
holding up a keyboard and an modem.
|
||
BTW - I saw a book, "The Search for Turtle's Navel" (no shit!) at
|
||
B.Dalton this weekend. I was absolutely blown away...
|
||
(besides - I thought he knew where it was).
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: HI!!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 20:32:40
|
||
Message Number 8290
|
||
|
||
BM>If you need a violinist, I could help...I fool around ...
|
||
|
||
Can ya sing? And about that fooling around part <smirk>...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: Laws of...
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 20:37:03
|
||
Message Number 8291
|
||
|
||
TS>As a matter of fact, casualties of the VC side weremore than ...
|
||
|
||
Well, to set the record straight, for the most part we got our asses
|
||
kicked but good the *duration* of the war. Matter of fact = we were so
|
||
humiliated and upset by our staggering losses in this little "police
|
||
action" that a special committee was established to find out why. To
|
||
put it bluntly we
|
||
A) Put too much faith in our technology and got our butt kicked by
|
||
weaponry that was modified from the Korean war and we passed off
|
||
as "obsolete".
|
||
B) We thought that we were hot shit and had the best damned army/air
|
||
force around. Our /attitude/ lost us a lot of good men.
|
||
|
||
We have fixed a lot of these problems but still must guard against the
|
||
fallacy of being the best. Those people sincerely believe that if the
|
||
war is declared a holy war, then if they die in a heroic fashion they
|
||
are /guaranteed/ a spot in heaven. They are acknowledged to be one of
|
||
the most fervent followers of any religion on the planet. I would be
|
||
awed by the committment alone. Besides, even with what the other Arab
|
||
leaders say now, what happens when they get told by their religious
|
||
leaders that we are bad for what we did? Hell, it's no secret that we
|
||
are doing this for economic reasons. Personally, think about it...
|
||
we are invading another country because we lust after a mineral that
|
||
happens to lie under their particular soil and /economically/ it would
|
||
be bad for us if they wouldn't let us have any. One hell of a reason to
|
||
throw away thousands if not maybe millions of lives, eh?
|
||
BTW - as for where I'm at... I spent 8 years in the Air Force, my dad
|
||
spent 25, my uncles spent 25 each in both the Marines and Army. I
|
||
love this country and will go to war for it and the /freedom/ to say
|
||
I think that we are warring for a bullshit reason.
|
||
|
||
A patriotic JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: THE SPECIALIST
|
||
Subject: HI!!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 20:50:44
|
||
Message Number 8292
|
||
|
||
TS>at the Dog House will let you use the equipment on the stage? Aweso
|
||
|
||
Yup, it's just there for the folks that go there. Hell Sometimes I
|
||
just go up to pick something and they try to turn the mikes on and turn
|
||
off the PA system! I gotta say"no no no... I'm just dinkin around..."
|
||
I know most of the people that work there. Scott screws around with me
|
||
up there every now and then... We ougtta do it. I'd like to get a
|
||
group of us there and just have fun...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: CRYSTAL
|
||
Subject: Thanks.
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 21:04:39
|
||
Message Number 8293
|
||
|
||
C> wants to hire me,
|
||
|
||
Is this the one with Black Magic's mom? Good luck! (probably late by
|
||
now but oh well!)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: MAX
|
||
Subject: Van Hagar
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 21:06:38
|
||
Message Number 8294
|
||
|
||
I really like Van Halen since they teamed up with Sammy. I do wish
|
||
he would quit trying to /sound/ like DLR tho... I undersatnd that it
|
||
is probably in the interest of maintaining a somewhat trademark sound
|
||
but you can hear him coming apart on the loud high ones...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: YNGLING
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: HI!!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 21:47:39
|
||
Message Number 8295
|
||
|
||
Jonboy -
|
||
I'll even buy the first pitcher!
|
||
The Yngling
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: YNGLING
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: weire
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 21:51:41
|
||
Message Number 8296
|
||
|
||
Jonboy,
|
||
As the former manager of B. Dalton please refer to it as B.F.D. in my
|
||
presence ( I think you can figure out what the "f" stands for ).
|
||
The Yngling
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Hutchinson's
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 22:08:25
|
||
Message Number 8297
|
||
|
||
We always go there to get our TV's and VCR. Very good service.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Yo! Furry Fen!
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 22:09:21
|
||
Message Number 8298
|
||
|
||
>Where and When?
|
||
|
||
When was an hour ago, making where a moot point.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Green b*tch
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 22:10:11
|
||
Message Number 8299
|
||
|
||
I could also fix your glove compartment.
|
||
|
||
...GE, we bring good things to life and stick them together.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Mr.Ed Dimension
|
||
Date & Time: 08/30/90 22:43:36
|
||
Message Number 8300
|
||
|
||
|
||
Chip! A place for you! My latest Storyboard creation. The Mr. Ed
|
||
Dimension! Horses are the dominating race! (Actually, more evolved hor-
|
||
ses and other animals.....no humans) Beyond Chaos
|
||
===========
|
||
|