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From: TURTLE
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To: ANGEL
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Subject: ???????
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Date & Time: 06/04/90 17:52:55
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Message Number 5603
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"Food, Folks, and Fun" is the dumbest advertising campaign I think
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I've ever seen McDonald's use. Speaking of which, I wish you folks
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would stop sniping at each other and learn to have fun on this board;
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maybe you two ought to go out to lunch or something...
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From: TURTLE
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To: SPE11WIND
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Subject: SmallTalk (tm)
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Date & Time: 06/04/90 17:57:36
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Message Number 5604
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>If y0u trace s0me diseases back, they were started by us, in 0ur
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>quest t0 better 0urse1ves...
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Okay, name some. Are you suggesting that perhaps polio, smallpox, or
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typhoid are technological artifacts? An interesting premiss to try
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to defend, if so. Have fun!
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From: CRYSTAL
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To: RUFUS
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Subject: accomodating
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Date & Time: 06/04/90 20:37:35
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Message Number 5606
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Yes, that is part of being Italian. When people come over to my
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house I can't help but want to give them something to eat.
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* CRYSTAL *
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From: CRYSTAL
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: ST & ST:TNG
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Date & Time: 06/04/90 20:52:20
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Message Number 5607
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I thought the Enterprise did have a cloaking device. Remember
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when they landed in San Fransisco and parked in the park? Did they not
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use a cloaking device then? True it was the new and improved version of
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the Enterprise.
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* *
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"And don't forget where we parked."
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From: RUFUS
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To: CRYSTAL
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Subject: accomodating
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Date & Time: 06/04/90 23:17:05
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Message Number 5608
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I'm 1/4 Italian, 1/4 Lebanese (Arab). I always have this urge to
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serve pasta then hijack a plane. :)
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...ya know, Tofu isn't that bad.
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From: RUFUS
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To: CRYSTAL
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Subject: ST & ST:TNG
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Date & Time: 06/04/90 23:18:51
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Message Number 5609
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Crystal sez:
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I thought the Enterprise did have a cloaking device. Remember
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when they landed in San Fransisco and parked in the park? Did they not
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use a cloaking device then? True it was the new and improved version
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of
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the Enterprise.
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* *
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"And don't forget where we parked."
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The ship in ST IV was not the Enterprise. The Enterprise 'bought the
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farm' in ST III. They 'borrowed' that ship from the Klingons (or was
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it Romulons?). Heck, the Enterprise can't even enter the atmosphere
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and land.
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...I suppose it could, but getting up into orbit again would be
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a pain in the butt.
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From: MMILLER
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To: ALL
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Subject: Apple LISA Sale
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Date & Time: 06/04/90 23:55:48
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Message Number 5610
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I don't know who out there might be interested but I've got an Apple
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LISA that I need to sale. It comes with a 5 meg Profile hard disk and
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the complete LISA Office software package. The LISA Office does come
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with a terminal program.
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The vertical hold doesn't seem to hold all the time but I'm sure that
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this is just a MINOR problem. All this computer history can be yours
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for only $100. If you're interested just reply to this message or
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drop by and see the LISA for yourself. Its at Computer Annex,
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7119 S. Trail in Sarasota. You can call 923-3991 (voice) and ask
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for Mike or Don. Thanx...
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From: SPE11WIND
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: SmallTalk (tm)
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 00:11:18
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Message Number 5612
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I mean viruses.... C0mputer Viruses!!! HAhahahaha
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Seri0us1y, if they didn't 0riginate fr0m us, where the he11 are the
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y fr0m?
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From: CRYSTAL
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To: RUFUS
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Subject: Tofu
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 00:21:39
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Message Number 5616
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>...ya know, Tofu isn't that bad.
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Yes it is.
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From: CRYSTAL
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To: RUFUS
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Subject: ST & ST:TNG
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 00:31:22
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Message Number 5618
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Yea, I knew that, so whats your point?
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* CRYSTAL *
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From: TREE BEARD
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: afterlife
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 00:51:18
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Message Number 5619
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I agree with you. I was just not being verbose on the subject of heart
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attacks. But a factor that you may not have considered is that the
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heart stoppage does not necessarily mean that the heart muscle is
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beyond chance of recovering. A strong burst of adrenalin (controled by
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the brain) and nerve firings may cause the heart to restart. I am not
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an MD, but 3 people in my imediate family are doctors. And I know what
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can happen to a muscle, or a group of muscles have an excess of
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adrenalin. They can do amazing things. Consider the example of a
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women lifting up a car to save her baby. An amazing feat in itself,
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considering that most people can barely lift a volkswagon bug from the
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front end up barely an inch. This feat is can be acconmplished do to
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adrenalin, and the fact that the body can do amazing things when it
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does not realize what it can not do!
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Now, about the humans only using 3/4 of their potential. I am
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not talking just about their automated functions. For instance the
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fact that sometimes we blink many times a second. Yes, a portion of
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our brain is being used to do this. As are many that allow us to
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drive a car down the road at 55 mph and not get killed instantly.
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But the fact is that we really are only begining to find out what parts
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of our brain are used at certain times. Now, consider a person looking
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at a rock. I agree that that person is using quite a bit of their brain
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to look at that rock. But not all of it. We know know this due to
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radioactive isotopes and advances in CAT scans. Now what if all the
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synapses were firing, 100% of our brain is firing synapses telling our
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heart to start beating. It is my belief that our heart would be able
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to restart.
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Now would be a good time to get into an arguement as to when we
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are actually dead. The law says it is when our brain is dead. Yet
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when the state executes a prisoner, the doctor checks for pupil
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dialation and a heart beat. That is not necesarilly death.
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So, for my hypothesis to be correc
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he trail to
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From: TREE BEARD
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To: TREE BEARD
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Subject: afterfile cont.
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 01:24:12
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Message Number 5620
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>so for my hypothesis
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to be correct, death would have to occur with that brain still
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functioning. Not 15 minutes later after the heart stopped. (unless
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you were frozen)
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PS. the message editor would not let me delete or retype my
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last line. (whats up?)
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Tree
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From: TREE BEARD
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To: ANGEL
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Subject: correct
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 01:28:30
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Message Number 5621
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My Ideas are important to me. Perhaps not to someone else. If they
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were not willing to take the time to figure them out then perhaps
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my Ideas are no important to them. Now, I know this is a poor way to
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think, and most of the time I try to make myself clear and consice.
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And if I were to send in a story to a publisher, I would proof read that
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story many times to make sure that there were no errors! I respect
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what you have to say. And I do care what people think of me, and
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this board, and the people on it seem to be good. The conversation
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is fun, and intelligent (for the most part), and besides its good to
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argue with someone without running into a brick wall. You know the
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type, "YOUR WRONG, I'M RIGHT, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT,
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YOUR A SLUG, ect." And, if it comes down to it, I will just have to
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bring my dictionary, my english comp. book, and my thesorus with me
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when ever I log on. But I do not think I will have to go that far.
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My grammer and spelling is not so horrible that my ideas do not get
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across. ^are (arrghh) I believe that some, if not
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many of my Ideas are worth hearing, and that people will ignore the
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misspellings and occasional grammatical errors when reading my posts.
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I still believe that because someone has trouble with syntax and
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or typing that they are unintelligent! Consider that at Ringling School
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of art and design, one in three have some form of dislexia or learning
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disiability. This does not mean that they are not intelligent. Someone
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is surely not stupid because they misspell Arnold Swartzeneger. (like
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I probably just did!)
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Class dismissed!
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Tree
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From: ANGEL
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To: DONTHEN
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Subject: ???????
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 01:48:23
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Message Number 5622
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Thank you for the clarification. Could you go a few steps further.
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I am still confused by what you are referring to as the method of
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debating that you have a distaste for. And what does "weedy" mean?
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I still do not see how my message could be construed to be a
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vehement spew. I'm not copping-out, I'm still baffled. Since
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starting this, I've been told I am behaving in certain ways that I
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am not seeing from this side, and no one is giving me any concrete
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examples.
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Generalities aside, what is the exact nature of your objections.
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Unless I know, I will continue doing it. Most of you on this board
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are experienced at this kind of communication, and possess a wealth of
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background from previous exchanges to draw upon. My experience is
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almost totally limited to AR and the Den. You have shorthands for
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conversations that I'm not aware of, and have phrases that trigger
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certain emotions because of linkages to past experiences that are
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beyond my knowledge.
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As far as the sweeping under the rug and cutesy replies...you say
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that annoys you because you've seen it far too often. I haven't.
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When the only specific objection to my post was that of not
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appreciating or possesing humor ---- well, I thought the next
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response you were soliciting from me was one of humor and light-
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heartedness. And I provided that. It was not a cop-out. It was
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a sincere effort to try to mend fences, one that I thought you were
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cueing me into. An invitation to lighten things up, was taken as a hint
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to let things drop, or, as you put it "sweep it under the rug."
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There seem to be some unwritten rules here that I have violated.
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And I still don't know what they are. I'm not going to learn until
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someone tells me. References to other conversations that I have not
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been privy to are not enlightening. Come on, Donthen, help me out here.
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-- still confused in Sarasota
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Angel
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From: ANGEL
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To: SPE11WIND
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Subject: godtalk
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 02:22:05
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Message Number 5623
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> If you trace some diseases back, they were started by us,
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Which ones?
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From: ANGEL
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: lunch
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 02:24:33
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Message Number 5624
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>stop sniping at each other and...go out to lunch or something.
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Sounds like the best idea I've heard in a while.
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From: ANGEL
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To: SPE11WIND
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Subject: SmallTalk (tm)
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 02:28:45
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Message Number 5625
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>if they didn't originate from us, where the hell are they from?
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From nature. Diseases have existed long before man.
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From: ANGEL
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To: TREE BEARD
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Subject: correct
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 02:35:04
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Message Number 5626
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In an imperfect world, we are stuck dealing with people's bigotries.
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And, unfortunately, people's intelligence is often judged by their
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written skills. It's not right, but it's a reality. No need to grab
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your thesaurus and dictionary. I'll struggle through any number of
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errors to get at the meaning.
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But I can't accept the attitude often expressed (by others, not by
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you) that spelling and grammar just are never important. And it's
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especially sad to hear this from would-be writers.
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They just can't comprehend that an editor can't be wasting his/her
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time wading through their errors in hope of discovering an obscure
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brilliant thought.
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From: SPE11WIND
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To: CRYSTAL
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Subject: Tofu
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 03:09:51
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Message Number 5629
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T0fu is Bean Curd in Japanese.... yuck, s0unds as bad as y0gurt.
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From: SPE11WIND
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To: ANGEL
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Subject: godtalk
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 03:15:01
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Message Number 5630
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S0me cures ye made started new diseases.
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From: SPE11WIND
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To: Y'A11
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Subject: Trivia!
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 03:16:37
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Message Number 5631
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0K, wh0 said:
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1) Stick ar0und
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2) C'm0n, cut the cake bef0re they get div0rced.
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3) 0h, yeah, we11 I kn0w h0w t0 spe11 B1ue!
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C1ue: They're n0t fr0m the same pers0n. HAHAHA
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From: BEATLE
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To: RUFUS
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Subject: ST & ST:TNG
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 06:28:24
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Message Number 5632
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> or was it Romulons?
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No, it was Klingons...
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You know, I can't picture the Enterprise taking off.
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From: BEATLE
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To: SPE11WIND
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Subject: animation
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 06:30:18
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Message Number 5633
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> This means you're not planning on dong the Star Trek trek?
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I want to do the Trek trek. Ken Ober wants to do the Trek trek. I just
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want someone to fill me in so BOTH Ken Ober and I know what to be doing!
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SOMEBODY HELP! Read message #5611!! Come on, Donthen, Turtle, you guys
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know what I need to know, don't you??
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From: BEATLE
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To: SPE11WIND
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Subject: Trivia!
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 06:37:44
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Message Number 5634
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> Stick around
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Well, lesse, that was a Julian Lennon song, they say it at a lot of
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commercial breaks, and millions of people worldwide say it everyday...
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Actually, what I'm getting at is: be a bit more specific than "OK, who
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said these:"...
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From: DONTHEN
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To: ANGEL
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Subject: ???????
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 08:11:22
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Message Number 5635
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Well, saying you were pissed off at me in those words was probably the
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main reason I took your message as a "vehement spew."
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I think you may be reading more into this entire message chain than is
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actually there. I did say this was a personal distaste on my part, I
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said that it wasn't really that big of a deal, it was just something
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that bothered me, and to top it off, in the message to you that I'm
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assuming triggered this, it said that it wasn't necessarily about
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conversations on this board to begin with.
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There are no "unwritten rules" for BBS's; what is and isn't allowed is
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up to the sysop. Very few /users/ will appreciate ad hominem attacks
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or anything that seems to be directed personally at them, but that's
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not something unique to computers.
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The only thing I was expressing annoyance at was the "tactic" in online
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conversation of saying something in an extremely inflammatory fashion
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and then expressing baffled surprise, genuine or not, when people take
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your original message as extremely inflammatory. Your original message
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to Turtle that started this whole nonsense took his message really
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personally when it wasn't even to you, responded to it in a way that got
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him more agitated than I've seen him in a long time, and you followed it
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up with a "Who, me? How could you take it seriously?" when the way you
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had put things made it quite serious. (Not having "body language" on a
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BBS debate may be bad, but neither do essay writers, and the tone still
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comes through.) My only point had been, that sort of reaction bugs me
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because when you do say something that strongly, you should be prepared
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for those sort of responses. That wasn't anything personal, it was only
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critical of your message. NOT YOU. It seems you did the whole thing
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again with this message chain, though, flaming me out for something that
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wasn't particularly nasty and expressing surprise when I get hurt. Go
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back and read your message to me. Surprise! It hurt.
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From: DONTHEN
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To: SPE11WIND
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Subject: godtalk
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 08:26:04
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Message Number 5636
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You keep saying "cures started new diseases." NAME ONE! Dammit, you
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can't come up with an outrageous statement like that without the ability
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to back it up and you haven't demonstrated that ability. The early
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vaccines for some diseases could inflict those diseases when given, but
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that's not what you said. What ARE you talking about?
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From: RUFUS
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To: CRYSTAL
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Subject: Tofu
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 10:01:58
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Message Number 5637
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>>...ya know, Tofu isn't that bad.
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>
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> Yes it is.
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Oh no, could this be the start of a Tofu war? My sister buys this Tofu
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stuff which tastes just like meat. She seasons it and slaps in on some
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nachos. Yum. I'm sure I'll one day meet some Tofu I don't like.
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From: RUFUS
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To: CRYSTAL
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Subject: ST & ST:TNG
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 10:03:51
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Message Number 5638
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Errr, my point was that the ship in ST IV was not the Enterprise.
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From: RUFUS
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To: BEATLE
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Subject: ST & ST:TNG
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 10:08:28
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Message Number 5639
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>You know, I can't picture the Enterprise taking off.
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It would be hard for the Enterprise to land on the ground and stay
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balanced. It might be easier for 1701-D, but that saucer section would
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probably make the whole thing front-heavy.
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...I know! We'll have a saucer seperation. Make it so. <snicker>
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From: RUFUS
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To: SPE11WIND
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Subject: Trivia!
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 10:12:42
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Message Number 5640
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> 1) Stick ar0und
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That would be Arnold Schwarzenegger after throwing a knife through a
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guys torso. I think the movie was "Predator."
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"This is the best mind-fuck yet."-Arnie S.
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From: RICHARD
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To: SAURON
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Subject: menus
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Date & Time: 06/05/90 12:02:44
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Message Number 5641
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|
||
DO IT!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Hijack service
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 15:28:04
|
||
Message Number 5643
|
||
|
||
>I'm 1/4 Italian, 1/4 Lebanese...I always have this urge to serva pasta
|
||
>then hijack a plane.
|
||
|
||
Why not hijack a plane that's serving pasta as the in-flight meal?
|
||
Or, of course, you could dedicate yourself to dying for Allah by
|
||
overeating and clogging your arteries...
|
||
|
||
>...ya know, Tofu isn't that bad.
|
||
|
||
You're right. It's worse.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: SmallTalk (tm)
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 15:31:12
|
||
Message Number 5644
|
||
|
||
>...if they don't originate from us, where the hell are they from?
|
||
|
||
The same place insects, amphibians, and homonids are from, dude!
|
||
Viruses and pathogenic bacteria evolved right alongside all the other
|
||
forms of life, and in fact /most/ human diseases are not human-specific.
|
||
A Rhesus monkey can die of typhoid or bubonic plague just as well as
|
||
any old human can. Personally, I'll take technology with its longer
|
||
life span and higher standard of living over "getting back to nature"
|
||
and dying of something nobody's seen in a developed country since 1832.
|
||
|
||
On a slightly related topic, it's kind of interesting that America's
|
||
inner cities are turning into miniature third-world countries in more
|
||
ways than one. I just today read an article that says tuberculosis,
|
||
typhoid fever, and other "archaic" diseases that you simply don't see
|
||
in affluent countries are starting to become a big problem in
|
||
a lot of inner cities...everyone was cheerfully predicting that
|
||
TB would be extinct by the end of the 1980's, yet right now it's at
|
||
the highest point it's been in this country since the '20's. Does this
|
||
bother anyone besides me?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: afterlife
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 15:37:52
|
||
Message Number 5645
|
||
|
||
Hmm. Okay, since we seem to be developing this discussion quite nicely,
|
||
here's a few points I'd like to mention about your post, both trivial
|
||
and not.
|
||
First of all, feats like people lifting Volkswagens over their heads
|
||
to save their babies are due to the release of large quantities of
|
||
endorphins, not adrenaline. Adrenaline can cause an increase in muscle
|
||
efficiency, but the upper limit of muscle functionm is imposed by the
|
||
action of gamma motor neurons, which are attached to stretch receptors
|
||
in the muscle and act to inhibit motor neuron function when they're
|
||
firing (in a classic spinal reflex arc, only an inhibitory one rather
|
||
than an excitatory one). Endorphins (and some drugs like PCP) can block
|
||
the activity of gamma motor neurons (that's why people who are dusted
|
||
are such a pain to arrest...they just rip apart the handcuffs and any
|
||
stray policemen they can get their hands on). Of course, what you
|
||
generally /don't/ hear about is what happens to these people, and to
|
||
people who toss Volkswagens around...they generally end up with torn
|
||
muscles and ligaments, cracked or broken bones, and the like.
|
||
Yes, it is true that a heart attack victim oftentime has not
|
||
suffered catastrophic failure of the heart muscle, and with a proper
|
||
impetus it can be forced to beat again. This isn't going to happen if
|
||
all the neurons in your brain fire at once, though; most of 'em aren't
|
||
in any way associated with motor control, much less heart control, and
|
||
if all of 'em fire simultaneously you die. (Epileptic seisures are
|
||
caused by massive, uncontrolled neuronal activity in the brain.) The
|
||
only thing which allows a brain to function is the fact that
|
||
neuronal activity is a /controlled, patterned/ sequence of firings; if
|
||
you lose the pattern of activity (ie, if all your nerve cells fire
|
||
at once or stop firing at once) organization is lost and the organ stops
|
||
working. (Continued)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: Afterlife con't
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 15:46:05
|
||
Message Number 5646
|
||
|
||
(continued)
|
||
That doesn't mean that autonomic functions aren't subject to acts of
|
||
will, or that death is a process that doesn't respond to the person's
|
||
wishes. If your willpower is strong enough, you CAN force your body
|
||
to continue working under circumstances where it would normally
|
||
quit, and vice-versa; witness the effectiveness of placebos and
|
||
shamanism, and the number of people in hospitals who have died from
|
||
what should have been non-terminal conditions simply because they
|
||
gave up. The mechanisms by which that sort of brain/body interaction
|
||
take place are more sophisticated and subtle than you suggest, though.
|
||
|
||
Finally, saying that every part of your brain isn't active at all times
|
||
is NOT the same as saying you don't use your entire brain. The brain
|
||
is a specialized, differentiated instrument; it's not homogenous
|
||
all the way through like a potato, and parts of it are dedicated to
|
||
performing specific functions. When those parts aren't active, that
|
||
doesn't mean they are available for other tasks--if you're not
|
||
talking, you haven't just freed up your speech centers to help you
|
||
tackle a calculus problem. Saying that people don't use their brains
|
||
to their maximum capacity because not all the areas are active at
|
||
once is kind of like saying people don't use their cars to their
|
||
maximum capacity because they don't have the heater and air conditioner
|
||
running at the same time.
|
||
--A biological Turtle
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: Afterlife mess
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 15:54:25
|
||
Message Number 5647
|
||
|
||
The message editor for this software (or more accurately, the howling
|
||
dog that CLAIMS to be a message editor) won't let you change the last
|
||
line of your message once you have run out of room in the text buffer.
|
||
I don't know why, but it might have something to do with the fact
|
||
that the man who wrote this software wouldn't know good programming
|
||
if it sent his sister a letter bomb.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 16:01:35
|
||
Message Number 5648
|
||
|
||
>You know, I can'ty picture the Enterprise taking off.
|
||
|
||
/I/ can't picture the damn thing LANDING! In addition to a troublesome
|
||
lack of certain vital components of a reentry craft (heatshields,
|
||
some sort of manuvering system strong enough to hold it up against
|
||
a steep gravity gradient so it doesn't fall down go boom, aerodynamic
|
||
grace...) I strongly suspect that if you subjected it to one gee in
|
||
any direction other than parallel to its normal direction of motion when
|
||
it's under acceleration it'd fall apart under its own weight. That
|
||
thin neck is NOT going to hold that saucer up! The Enterprise was
|
||
designed for zero-gee, built in zero-gee, and clearly not ment to stay
|
||
in one piece under full gravity. The only direction it was designed to
|
||
take any sort of stress in is longitudinally from stern to nose, and
|
||
the designers probably didn't anticipate the engine supports actually
|
||
supporting the weight of the engines or the saucer support holding the
|
||
saucer up in a gravity well...
|
||
|
||
Besides, it doesn't even have any landing skids!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: animation
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 16:06:50
|
||
Message Number 5649
|
||
|
||
I suspect Donthen may, but in this one I sadly must plead ignorance.
|
||
All I know is that i am GOING to see Akira at least once; when that
|
||
will be, how many people it will involve, what car(s) these people
|
||
will take, where these people will meet, and who gets to ride in the
|
||
front seat are all details that haven't been worked out yet.
|
||
|
||
...shotgun!
|
||
|
||
Okay, so now ONE of the details has been worked out.
|
||
--A clueless Turtle
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: animation
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 16:21:36
|
||
Message Number 5650
|
||
|
||
> all details that haven't been worked out...
|
||
|
||
Oooookay... well, if someone finds out something, please post. I want
|
||
to do this with Tyler and the rest of you, and gong to Tampa on the spur
|
||
of the moment is something I wouldn't be able to do. Now if I plan ahead
|
||
, maybe...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: CRYSTAL
|
||
Subject: Tofu
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 16:41:10
|
||
Message Number 5651
|
||
|
||
Sawdust isn't bad if you cover it with enough tomato sauce, garlic
|
||
and cheese.
|
||
A non-tofu Thrud
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 16:45:20
|
||
Message Number 5652
|
||
|
||
I/ve also never seen a little hook on the front for the little
|
||
tractor to pull it into the hanger.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: LBJ
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 16:47:02
|
||
Message Number 5653
|
||
|
||
I'm always happy to jump right in and slam a liberal whenever the
|
||
need arises! LBJ's election to the Senate was perhaps one of the
|
||
crookedest of all times. One of his aides is currently promoting
|
||
his book 'telling all'. He says he waited for all the other parties
|
||
involved to die, 'cus he didn't want to hurt anyone. More dead
|
||
people and non-english-speaking-people (whew) voted for LBJ than
|
||
any other candidate. 'Course, that's been standard in Texas politics
|
||
since before they joined the Union - you don't think anyone actually
|
||
thought Sam Houston was a good president, do ya?
|
||
A flame-fanning Thrud
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Jim Bob Carter
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 16:53:04
|
||
Message Number 5654
|
||
|
||
Let's hear it for the most honest, loving, Christian president we've
|
||
ever had - Mr. James Earl Carter. His benevolence and love of mankind
|
||
still shines on in his wonderful work with Habitat for Humanity.
|
||
Unfortunately, the dipshit didn't know economics from garbonzo beans,
|
||
and damn near ran this country into the worst depression in History.
|
||
(You'll note that in the spirit of kindness and generousity I
|
||
refrained from making a reference to peanuts, and instead used the
|
||
kinder, gentler bean which has come to represent our Vice pres.)
|
||
A former-president bashing Thrud
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Trivia!
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 17:03:52
|
||
Message Number 5655
|
||
|
||
AAAANNNNGGG! Thank y0u f0r p1aying!
|
||
|
||
Predat0r: Arnie impa1es a guy with a big knife, Nai1ing him int0 a tree
|
||
and Arnie dec1ares...Stick Ar0und
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 17:07:27
|
||
Message Number 5656
|
||
|
||
They made a cure f0r 0ne kind 0f 1uekemia which started an0ther kind
|
||
0f 1uekemia.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: SmallTalk (tm)
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 17:10:39
|
||
Message Number 5657
|
||
|
||
Thank y0u, Dr. Turt1e f0r kicking me in the side 0f the head and
|
||
c1earing the c0bwebs.
|
||
|
||
|
||
Aha! Chem testing, waste dump! These fuck up kids when they're b0rn &
|
||
a h0rde 0f 0ther f01k t00. I'm sure that started a disease 0r tw0.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: Jim Bob Carter
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 17:19:02
|
||
Message Number 5658
|
||
|
||
When Dan Quay1e bec0mes pres (Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha)
|
||
y0u'11 be s0rry y0u made fun 0f him!
|
||
|
||
|
||
Y0u kn0w he wasted a day C0mmentating a baseba11 game? Ugh. I'm a1m0st
|
||
embarassed t0 be fr0m the same state when he d0es shit 1ike that.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Poem
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 18:13:55
|
||
Message Number 5659
|
||
|
||
Anytime...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Hijack service
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 20:48:13
|
||
Message Number 5660
|
||
|
||
I've had tofu that ISN'T bad. Tofu is basically the sponge of the food
|
||
world. If it's done right, which usually involves marinating it in
|
||
something strong or otherwise imparting strong flavors to it, it can be
|
||
pretty good -- I've had tofu that tastes pretty good in lasagna, stir
|
||
fry, and even a pseudo-cheesecake (the consistency and texture was right
|
||
but it wasn't quite sweet enough, but that probably wasn't the tofu's
|
||
fault).
|
||
If it's done wrong, though, tofu tastes like sponge. Very few people
|
||
are creative enough to keep that from happening, too.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Afterlife mess
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 20:53:37
|
||
Message Number 5661
|
||
|
||
On the contrary, I think Pat MacDonald did a pretty good job with this
|
||
BBS, considering he chose the worst language possible to write a
|
||
string-intensive application in I can think of, with the exceptions of
|
||
Pilot, Logo and Tiny BASIC. There are a lot of very nice things about
|
||
PBBS -- the commands are logical, the response is fast, the formatting
|
||
for messages, headers, command prompts, etc. is much nicer than a lot
|
||
of other programs, it has a hyper-efficient message storing system,
|
||
and all the executables and support files (PBBS, PBBSH, SYSOP and the
|
||
control data files) take up less than 80K, not too much more than the
|
||
original Greene Machine required (and less if you added the size of
|
||
BASIC and its overlays to GM).
|
||
Of course, the stupidest thing about PBBS is what you keep wanting me
|
||
to carry over into FOX. Very odd indeed.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: Jim Bob Carter
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 21:04:12
|
||
Message Number 5662
|
||
|
||
I'm not sure I buy the "economic problems are all the fault of the
|
||
previous administration" routine. Reagan kept saying that, but it was
|
||
still during HIS eight years that the national debt rose from several
|
||
hundred million to some two TRILLION. If you project the curve back
|
||
into Carter's years, yes, it was starting to climb then, but Reagan
|
||
sure didn't make a whole lot of effort to stop it... he just pointed
|
||
fingers. When he could find his fingers, that is.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 21:06:18
|
||
Message Number 5663
|
||
|
||
You'll have to back that one up a bit. Even if you can, it's still a
|
||
long way from substantiating the claim that we'd have fewer diseases
|
||
if it wasn't for modern technology -- the circumstantial evidence is
|
||
still strongly against that (like, say, the fact that a lot of
|
||
diseases that are almost gone now, or easily treatable, were almost
|
||
always fatal 100 years ago, like polio and turberculosis).
|
||
|
||
[Turtle: this isn't discounting your comment on TB; it /is/ still easily
|
||
preventable and, if enough people were getting the vaccine, it would be
|
||
almost gone by now. Whatever breakdown may be occuring there, though, i
|
||
t wouldn't be easily blamed on modern technology....]
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Oops!
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 21:11:26
|
||
Message Number 5664
|
||
|
||
Sorry the board frotzed on you during your last call: I left the
|
||
message disk out of the appropriate drive. (Hey, so I'm used to running
|
||
a board off of a hard drive.)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Movies
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 21:16:34
|
||
Message Number 5665
|
||
|
||
No problem - hey that's just right down from where I live. Remind me
|
||
when it's time would ya?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: skirts III
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 21:18:42
|
||
Message Number 5666
|
||
|
||
Actually - _I_ could give a rats fuzzy behind about anyones spelling.
|
||
Just like I could care less about how they look or dress. I just was
|
||
making note of the fact that fair or not - people will judge you by
|
||
such things. What is really shitty about the deal is that these
|
||
people are the ones that never had an original thought in their entire
|
||
life and got in their position by being corporate sheep.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Incidentally,
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 21:21:55
|
||
Message Number 5667
|
||
|
||
You're kidding.... (?) How tuff could it be? AutoCad has an install
|
||
menu that the toughest thing on it is when you have to use and ADI
|
||
driver or need to calibrate the mouse/digitizer/printer and that
|
||
simply involves measuring a square and fixing the ratio. Hell,
|
||
get a book on AutoCad so you seem like you know what it is and I
|
||
GUARANTEE that if you are even semi-lame with a computer you can get
|
||
it running - further - if you get stumped *I* will give free advice
|
||
and knowledge infusions. Go get the job.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 21:27:26
|
||
Message Number 5668
|
||
|
||
True true --- sometimes when you are gifteds with a strange sense of
|
||
humor and the moon is full shit just comes out all wrong. Sveral times
|
||
I have been lambasted for something I honestly could not remember saying
|
||
(in the context referred to) and when rereading the post was annoyed
|
||
to find out - "It's true! Hoof in mouth strikes again". Of course
|
||
sometimes I just feel bitchy and creative in the same breath and then
|
||
wow! I have a post with a "Dr Foo" who was a fellow hacker at my school
|
||
that I consider my personal pinnacle for vitriolic/humorous/witty and
|
||
personally devastating prose. People even posted it on UseNet as
|
||
a piece of "humorous" text on hackers (which he was claiming to be
|
||
simply because he pirated software). I'm with Turtle - I'm damned proud
|
||
to be a hacker and no pipsqeek pirate is gonna equate the moniker with
|
||
software piracy if I can help it!!!
|
||
Anyway as I was saying before I stirred my own mud - it just depends on
|
||
the mood and the media - Angel is right in that we cannot see her
|
||
sardonic smile with the half-twist of a lip added as a garnish. We
|
||
have to fill in the timbre - but too often our own mood becomes a player
|
||
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Small fib
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 21:36:40
|
||
Message Number 5669
|
||
|
||
Understood about the can being opened but I personally believe that
|
||
you should be accountable to yourself for yourself. If you look at
|
||
yourself with lung cancer at the age of 50 - crawl away and die but
|
||
don't come crying to me for help. Sorry if it sounds like a rough way
|
||
to be but that is where families and friends traditionally come in
|
||
not Big Brother in the form of laws to tell you how to live your life.
|
||
I mean if we weren't so damned socialist that we figured we had to
|
||
take care of everyone even when it's a critical illness, then we
|
||
wouldn't have to worry about these people being a burden on a system
|
||
that wouldn't exist. People call it caring for your fellow man...
|
||
I call it the price you pay for letting Big Brother take control of your
|
||
life in increasingly petty details.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: PARTY!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 21:42:28
|
||
Message Number 5670
|
||
|
||
Pardon my eeg-no-rance senor, what does the video she haf to do weeth
|
||
the partee?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 21:44:23
|
||
Message Number 5671
|
||
|
||
Yup entropy entropy everywhere... look - cockroaches used to be about
|
||
18 inches long - now they are munchkins compared to eons of old. They
|
||
are fading awaaaaayyyyy like everything else.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: FemTalk (tm)
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 21:46:14
|
||
Message Number 5672
|
||
|
||
Education is the answer. Unfortunately hysteria is the norm in
|
||
America. So what if the guys down the street are gay? So what if
|
||
they make out in the front yard? They are people with a different
|
||
bend in life. As such they are a part of the family of man and still
|
||
deserve to be treated with a little dignity. Why in the world someone
|
||
elses sexual preference makes any difference to someone else is
|
||
beyond me. Simply explain to the kiddies that some people are born
|
||
(or acquire - the jury's still out) with a sexual desire for the same
|
||
sex. Ah hell - I really don't want to get into a gay rights debate
|
||
because it should be a moot point. Just another incident of someone
|
||
saying "this is bad because it's not how I think or act". I try to
|
||
stay away from people like that...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: afterlife
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 21:55:06
|
||
Message Number 5673
|
||
|
||
Exactly (I love it when people think like me <hehehe>) Studies have in
|
||
fact shown that memory is closer to a hologram in its' mechanism. When
|
||
you remove chunks, the image just gets fuzzier as detail is lost but
|
||
the image is still there in the holistic sense. I too get tired of that
|
||
old metaphysical dirge on how we have the potential to be so much more.
|
||
I liken it to the line about cocaine in the video "Bill Cosby - Himself"
|
||
Coke head: Like cocaine *enhances* your personality.
|
||
Bill : So what if you are an asshole?
|
||
We haven't given a good enough accounting of ourselves to wish we could
|
||
do 900% better.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: grammar again
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 22:02:46
|
||
Message Number 5674
|
||
|
||
Ah yes but by which media must the idea be expressed? The Mime' is
|
||
eloquent in expressive power using nothing more than the papyrus of
|
||
their persona. Ideas and imagination are not bound and limited by the
|
||
written word. Only when the written word IS the vehicle should it be
|
||
critiqued.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 22:06:17
|
||
Message Number 5675
|
||
|
||
Ok lets REALLY get rad - what about the theory that all these pampered
|
||
and protected bodies have introduced elements into the gene pool that
|
||
actually causes us to ever more dependant on our technology. The
|
||
old way of weeding the infirm out at an early age has usurped the
|
||
role of mother nature weeding out the unfit. What are we becoming?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: PARTY!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 22:12:58
|
||
Message Number 5676
|
||
|
||
Actually the pavillions HAVE elecricity. We took a whole band down t
|
||
there and had the old farts really in a sizzle that we could actually
|
||
play loud music and have fun.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: MMILLER
|
||
Subject: Apple LISA Sale
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 22:16:35
|
||
Message Number 5677
|
||
|
||
Just think - this used to be around $7000!!!!! There is a company
|
||
in Utah that refurbs 'em into a Mac wannabe but it costs almost as
|
||
much.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: afterfile cont.
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 22:35:44
|
||
Message Number 5678
|
||
|
||
Well yes - adrenalin can do marvelous stuff when admistered by an MD
|
||
thru a 6" hypo directly into the heart before the brain is dead from
|
||
oxygen loss
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: correct
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 22:37:25
|
||
Message Number 5679
|
||
|
||
Agreed - I for one hope that you have not received the impression that
|
||
you were less than intelligent and/or "unworthy" because of spelling.
|
||
It was a conversational take-off on the "real-world" which we
|
||
try to avoid when a mental breath of fresh air is needed.
|
||
What media do you like to express yourself in artistically?
|
||
I've been trying to find someone who knows about Batik.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: ???????
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 22:40:56
|
||
Message Number 5680
|
||
|
||
Personally - I think that an extreme has been reached where you are
|
||
under the impression that you have erred... I have been on hundreds
|
||
(yes really) of boards and haven't seen anything untoward in any of
|
||
your remarks. They may not make everyone (Donthen in particular)
|
||
happy but there are no real "unwritten" rules that are punishable
|
||
by crippling your home keys :). I'm surprised myself at some of the
|
||
statements that he has made. As far as "weedy", I think he was
|
||
referring to the pratice of posting an inflammatory remark and watching
|
||
the sparks fly. Gee, sometimes that's fun and it's up to your personal
|
||
standards how provokative you get - I would be ashamed of myself if I
|
||
ever posted a remark which could be construed as slamming another
|
||
person's ethnic/sexual background. We are what we are and have to make
|
||
do - what we believe however is fair game (to me) I think Donthhen
|
||
objects to the argument structure "I am righteous because" Well - I
|
||
don't because an intelligent person can use this as bait to get someone
|
||
involved in a really good discussion. Unfortunatly sometimes people
|
||
get dogmatic as the bait was and then factions destroy any hope for
|
||
meaningful dialog. In my case I reply to posts that appear to carry
|
||
on the spirit intended and let the others lapse - in this case with
|
||
the religion - i let it die... there was no progress other than petty
|
||
snide remarks that impart nothing of value. Some people get tired of
|
||
these because it can get tedious to wade thru (witness the abortion
|
||
debate) - but - this is reality where people don't always prefer the
|
||
same things as others do.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 22:54:26
|
||
Message Number 5681
|
||
|
||
Well , there ARE several new virulent and flexible strains of
|
||
gonorreah(sp?) that are a direct result of modern medicine, Of course
|
||
I would classify that as adaptive - not new.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Afterlife con't
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 22:58:42
|
||
Message Number 5682
|
||
|
||
Damn! So *that's * why my disk drives don't do dishes!! Specialization
|
||
rears its' ugly head once more...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/05/90 23:13:19
|
||
Message Number 5683
|
||
|
||
Pr0b1ems with babies fr0m pregnant w0men sitting in fr0nt 0f c0mputers
|
||
a11 day....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: ???????
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 01:28:05
|
||
Message Number 5684
|
||
|
||
I give up. I've asked for specifics and I get generalities. In the
|
||
original message, what exactly are you considering "extremely
|
||
inflammatory"? The only quoted sentence is a quote I never made.
|
||
I am still expressing baffled surprise, and it is quite geniune.
|
||
And when did I express surprise that you were hurt?
|
||
> When you say things that strongly you should not be surprised by
|
||
that sort of response.
|
||
Again, what "things"? Again, back to original message to Turtle...
|
||
I used no offensive language; I did not engage in name-calling. Is
|
||
the mere statement that I find something offensive, offensive to you?
|
||
Perhaps these "things" that I am saying are so patently obvious
|
||
to you that you have trouble communicating the concept to someone
|
||
like myself who is having difficulty grasping it. I need specifics.
|
||
Because, right now, it just seems that I can't see how anything you
|
||
are saying applies to me. I can comprehend how you dislike the
|
||
insincere "Who me?"-attitude. But that is not my attitude; and I
|
||
know my own state of mind better than you do.
|
||
If there are no specifics you can give me, than I can only assume
|
||
that this whole controversy exists only in a negative interpretation
|
||
of what I have said.
|
||
I am asking for your assistance in this ... genuine, sincere,
|
||
non-lieing, anti-copping-out, still-baffled, yet-not-reluctant-to-
|
||
admit-still-pissed, despondent, and exasperated, and in need of your
|
||
aid. 'Cause the only lesson learned so far is that only happy
|
||
emotions can be expressed here, if you are offended; keep your mouth
|
||
shut; if you are pissed, don't let anyone know. And I'm sure that
|
||
really isn't the message you are trying to convey to me. I'm sorry
|
||
that you were hurt when I said I was pissed; but I'm not sorry for
|
||
my emotions, or the expressing of them. Saying I am angry because
|
||
of your actions (but not angry AT you; that is not a cop-out, there
|
||
is a distinct difference) is not an insult. Nor, do I consider it
|
||
an attack. I know this subject-line is boring to rest of the
|
||
(cont...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: ???????
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 01:50:05
|
||
Message Number 5685
|
||
|
||
... perhaps we should move this to private mail from now on. Hopefully,
|
||
we can work this out soon. For the record, I adore you, even when
|
||
you get me riled. May happiness abound.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: grammar again
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 02:07:49
|
||
Message Number 5686
|
||
|
||
>only when the written word IS the vehicle should it be critiqued.
|
||
Agreed. And those who cannot deal with the standards of criticism
|
||
should stick to mime.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 02:10:04
|
||
Message Number 5687
|
||
|
||
> What are we becoming?
|
||
In general, healthier.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: ???????
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 02:12:59
|
||
Message Number 5688
|
||
|
||
Thank you! I think you may have just given me a flash of insight
|
||
into where Donthen is coming from ... and, oddly enough, I think I'm
|
||
coming from the same place. Will need to investigate.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Trivia!
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 02:54:10
|
||
Message Number 5690
|
||
|
||
> Arnie impales a guy with a big knife, Nailing him into a tree...
|
||
|
||
Ooooh, I wonder why I ever missed THAT one..
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: Trek movies
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 03:02:04
|
||
Message Number 5691
|
||
|
||
I know everyone's not going to this Trek series, and I know it's still
|
||
over a week away, but I did some advance planning, and the instructions
|
||
for what to do June 16th are on Courts of Chaos and Abracadabra BBS...
|
||
if you don't call there, send me mail for details on what's going on. I
|
||
should get a count of how many will be coming.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: Enterprise Down
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 15:49:05
|
||
Message Number 5692
|
||
|
||
The Enterprise probably wouldn't /need/ a hook on the front so that
|
||
the little Airport Mobile could pull it into the hangar; all it needs
|
||
to do is latch onto the Airport Mobile with a tractor beam and let it
|
||
drag it right in.
|
||
...course, it'd tear up the turf really bad, since the Enterprise
|
||
doesn't have wheels. Dragging starships around on the lawn is kind of
|
||
hard on the grass. A better solution might be to get one of those
|
||
dollies that people use to move large objects of furniture around;
|
||
you know, the kind with little wheels on it and the thing in front that
|
||
you shove under the piano or whatever so you can lift it up and make
|
||
it tip over.
|
||
--A concerned Turtle
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: Jim Bob Carter
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 15:54:59
|
||
Message Number 5693
|
||
|
||
James Earl Carter was honest and dumb--two fatalities if you're dealing
|
||
with the office of the (nominal) head of the (nominally) most powerful
|
||
country on the planet. Still, he's one up on Dan Quayle, who's just
|
||
dumb; which one would /you/ rather see in the White House??
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Hijack service
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 15:57:46
|
||
Message Number 5694
|
||
|
||
>Tofu is basically the sponge of the food world.
|
||
|
||
Tofu: real pseudo-foodlike substance for real pseudo-people-like
|
||
homonids.
|
||
|
||
I'm not convinced that the fact that tofu doesn't taste much like
|
||
anything in particular is really an argument in favor of the stuff;
|
||
shredded cardboard doesn't taste like very much either, but I still
|
||
wouldn't want to marinate it and serve it at a formal dinner, or serve
|
||
it to Dan Quayle for that matter. Well, on second thought, maybe I
|
||
/would/ serve Dan Quayle shredded marinated cardboard; I'm kind of
|
||
vicious that way.
|
||
--A malicious Turtle
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Afterlife mess
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 16:01:54
|
||
Message Number 5695
|
||
|
||
You know, I bet PBBS would be better if Patrick MacDonald had written
|
||
it in LISP...
|
||
|
||
PBBS's message index system isn't all THAT bad if you write the
|
||
message retrieval system to check the integrity of all the links
|
||
on the fly and correct 'em if any of 'em get screwed up--that way
|
||
small errors don't keep growing and growing until the message file
|
||
breaks. There should be a better way to arrange the index records,
|
||
though.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 16:06:45
|
||
Message Number 5696
|
||
|
||
Slightly off-topic...I'd really like to see that particular piece of
|
||
prose you mentioned re: "Dr Foo".
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Small fib
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 16:08:22
|
||
Message Number 5697
|
||
|
||
You know, your argument could also be used to justify legalization
|
||
of /all/ recreational drugs--"you are accountable to yourself for
|
||
yourself," and if you end up with cancer or a cocaine-induced heart
|
||
attack or whatever, tough. Trouble is, we live in a rather complex
|
||
society and there really isn't a good way to isolate one person's
|
||
actions from all the people around him. I don't want to share the
|
||
road with a person who can't drink responsibly, I don't want the
|
||
guy in the cockpit of my passenger liner coked out of his head--and
|
||
whenever I spend money, I'm paying for absenteeism, lost time, and
|
||
company insurance that goes to pay for the dip on the assembly line
|
||
who's smoked himself into chronic bronchitis.
|
||
|
||
Mind you, I'm /not/ suggesting that smoking should be outlawed, or
|
||
that we need tighter control (governmental or not) on recreation,
|
||
or anything equally silly; I really hate governmental intrusion into
|
||
anything, and really don't feel I need somebody watching over me all
|
||
the time and telling me what I should and shouldn't do. On the other
|
||
hand, I am pointing out that your chain of reasoning is somewhat flawed.
|
||
Whether I like it or not, almost all of my actions are going to affect
|
||
other people in some way or another; and when you multiply that by
|
||
tens of thousands or millions of people who may be doing whatever
|
||
boneheaded thing I'm doing, you have quite a significant impact.
|
||
|
||
<Continued>
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Small fib con't
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 16:17:07
|
||
Message Number 5698
|
||
|
||
<Continuing> (Gosh I'm long-winded these days!)
|
||
|
||
Moving right along...I am also vaguely bothered by the implication that
|
||
the responsibility to deal with people's health-related problems belongs
|
||
not to the government but to the individual's friends and family. This
|
||
strikes me as being a particularly suburban white middle-and-upper-class
|
||
ethic; people who don't fall into these boundaries frequently don't have
|
||
a network of friends and relatives who are capable of assisting them, an
|
||
people who don't have any relatives and don't have any network of close
|
||
friends don't have anything to fall back on at all. While it can be
|
||
argued that that isn't bad--it acts as a form of social Darwinism to
|
||
weed out antisocial elements from an increasingly crowded society--I
|
||
don't think that's what you were even remotely driving at... :)
|
||
|
||
The United States is the only developed country in the world with
|
||
no public health-care structure at all. It is also country with the
|
||
most expensive health-care infrastructure in the world, even though
|
||
we do not enjoy the highest standard of health care. I think these two
|
||
facts may be connected...and whether people like to admit it or not,
|
||
health care is something EVERYBODY pays for, regardless of whether it's
|
||
done directly (by the government) or indirectly (through higher hospital
|
||
bills to offset lost profits when hospitals treat indigent people,
|
||
through lower economic growth when people spend money on hospital
|
||
care that could go to "hard" goods, through higher insurance prices,
|
||
and the like).
|
||
--A pinko liberal hippie comm-YOO-nist Turtle
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Party???
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 16:27:50
|
||
Message Number 5699
|
||
|
||
The video, she be important to the Furry Party because no Furry Party
|
||
is complete without some sort of furry-related video presentation.
|
||
Is simple, no?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Enterprise Down
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 16:43:26
|
||
Message Number 5700
|
||
|
||
Damn it! They (44) put the 01d Star Trek back up f0r a m0nth.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Small fib con't
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 16:47:39
|
||
Message Number 5701
|
||
|
||
S0, why d0 y0u think c0nservatives bec0me c0mmunists? Duh.
|
||
|
||
|
||
0H N0!! RETURN 0F THE NAIR SH0RT SH0RTS C0MMERCIA1S!!!!!!!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Incidentally,
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 17:12:42
|
||
Message Number 5703
|
||
|
||
Unfortunately, the AutoCAD job is long past; they found whoever else it
|
||
was they found quite some time ago. Most of the job would have been
|
||
putting together PC clones, something I didn't have any experience with
|
||
up until the 2 whole days I spent on that job (not that it was terribly
|
||
mind-numbing activity, just really tedious). Maybe something else odd
|
||
will come along. Right now I have a pseudo-job at Pelican Press filling
|
||
in for their typesetter; it's fun and pays pretty well for an hourly
|
||
rate, but it's only about 10 hours a week and will only last for two
|
||
months. I'm also working at RightSoft some of the time, which helps
|
||
make up the gap, but have absolutely no idea how long that will last.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 17:17:57
|
||
Message Number 5704
|
||
|
||
That's not a disease, technically speaking.
|
||
You are guilty of romanticizing the past, ignoring the fact that
|
||
in, say, medieval times, life expectancy was around 40 years and about
|
||
80% of the population died of disease and starvation before the age of
|
||
5. Most people couldn't spell "medicine" (being illiterate, of course),
|
||
and even the ones that could had little idea what it really WAS. The
|
||
best herbal remedy is pretty useless against most viral infections.
|
||
While I could produce a lot of philosophical and ethical objections to
|
||
the methods of modern medicine, I'd have to be wearing blinders not to
|
||
realize that for humans (and domestic animals), it's done far more good
|
||
than harm.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Trek movies
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 17:24:10
|
||
Message Number 5705
|
||
|
||
June 16th is probably the date everyone's going to be making a trek to
|
||
see AKIRA. Perhaps we should try to plan the Tampa trip for the 17th,
|
||
if you're interested in coming along?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Hijack service
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 17:25:28
|
||
Message Number 5706
|
||
|
||
The fact that tofu tastes bland isn't an argument in favor of it; it's
|
||
the fact that it is extremely versatile and doesn't have to taste like
|
||
cardboard -- and, of course, the fact that it's disgustingly healthy for
|
||
you.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Afterlife mess
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 17:26:22
|
||
Message Number 5707
|
||
|
||
....or if you write a new BBS program that doesn't require forward,
|
||
backward, header-to-text and text-to-text links in every message. OSBBS
|
||
got along with just a simple text pointer and only "wasted" an average
|
||
of 20 bytes per message (text was saved in blocks of 40 characters),
|
||
compared to an average of 127 for PBBS, which saves them in blocks of
|
||
254. And, OSBBS was faster for looking up messages; you asked for
|
||
message 20, no problem, it was there. If it had been written in ML or
|
||
compiled code, it would have been appreciably faster than PBBS, which
|
||
is no slouch itself.
|
||
-- Of course, OSBBS just marked messages as deleted instead of
|
||
really removing them, and you needed to run a maintenance program to
|
||
free up their space, and the maintenance program required about 10-15
|
||
minutes to run and about 50K of workspace on the message drive. I
|
||
thought not having to do that with PBBS was a big advantage; after
|
||
seeing my system and yours running with it for over a year and about
|
||
10,000 messages, many lost messages, lots of unexplained errors and
|
||
an average of one catastrophic message base crash every two months, I'm
|
||
beginning to think that El Klunko maintenance program may not have been
|
||
such a hardship.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 17:56:47
|
||
Message Number 5708
|
||
|
||
Rea11y? G00d? Hahaa
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Trek movies
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 17:57:33
|
||
Message Number 5709
|
||
|
||
Y0.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: -ALL-
|
||
Subject: AR Downloads
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 18:34:50
|
||
Message Number 5710
|
||
|
||
We here at Anarchy Now, Inc. are pleased to announce the addition of
|
||
nine new files to the download directory, including a short story by
|
||
Angel, a comprehensive guide to determining the differences between
|
||
liberals and conservatives, and a file explaining the Great Truths of
|
||
Life (tm). Check 'em out!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CRYSTAL
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: the point
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 19:00:28
|
||
Message Number 5711
|
||
|
||
Oh, Ok then you should come over for french toast then.
|
||
:) CRYSTAL :)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CRYSTAL
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 19:05:38
|
||
Message Number 5712
|
||
|
||
Ok Dudes, so who am I to take all these things into consederation
|
||
before making a statement like that.
|
||
> Was it not the Enterprise that landed in San Francisco?
|
||
And before any one says it, yes, it was not a direct quote. Ok, so
|
||
now we got a Klingon ship, in San Francisco, parked. He had to use a
|
||
Klingon vessle, Because the federation does not have a research ship
|
||
with a cloaking devise installed, and Kirk is too cheep to pay the
|
||
extra for them to install it. Ya know kinda like when you go into a
|
||
car lot to buy a car. Well I do, ya know when all you need is something
|
||
that has four tires, rear and front bumpers. You even say Ok, to use an
|
||
umpbrella on rainy days. And you beg them not to make you pay on it for
|
||
the rest of your life. Then they tell you for only X much more money
|
||
you could have a roof too. They know you want one, because its hard
|
||
drive on rainy days as it is without trying to stear and shift and
|
||
watch for other cars, and hold an umbrella, all at the same time. So
|
||
you say yes to letting them put a roof on the car. Then you find out
|
||
how much money you have to pay them and you can't even fly it out of
|
||
orbit that same day. Ya know the more I think about it the more I think
|
||
Kirk should have got the Enterprise at a tent sale. Then the ship he
|
||
would have signed for would have been sold out from underneath him and
|
||
he could have got a ship with a cloaking devise in so then he would not
|
||
have had to steal one of Darth Vaders Ships to land in Miami.
|
||
* CRYSTAL *
|
||
* *
|
||
'
|
||
@
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CRYSTAL
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: yes
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 19:33:05
|
||
Message Number 5713
|
||
|
||
As my grandmother always said, "Kill it with cheese."
|
||
* CRYSTAL *
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Enterprise Down
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 20:17:28
|
||
Message Number 5714
|
||
|
||
I'm happy they put Old Star Trek back on -- I like it better!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: RightSoft...
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 20:18:39
|
||
Message Number 5715
|
||
|
||
Hey, I have a friend whose entire family works there -- They make
|
||
RightWriter, eh?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Trek movies
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 20:20:11
|
||
Message Number 5716
|
||
|
||
So are we definately treking to Tampa to see AKIRA on the 16th? And
|
||
how much should it cost? Who's going? (Besides the obvious) Dan
|
||
desires to go along, but he's probably going to be out of state...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: AR Downloads
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 20:23:31
|
||
Message Number 5717
|
||
|
||
I have LHARCed up some messages from a JapAnimation BBS concerning
|
||
JapAnimation, Japan, and the Amiga 3000 -- Do U think I should
|
||
upload 'em -- It's only about 50K total...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: CRYSTAL
|
||
Subject: the point
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 20:24:56
|
||
Message Number 5718
|
||
|
||
But /my/ French-Toast is better! :pppp heheheh Of course, I've never
|
||
had your French Toast.....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: CRYSTAL
|
||
Subject: grandmothers
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 21:49:14
|
||
Message Number 5719
|
||
|
||
".....maybe you'd like some crushed red pepper ?"
|
||
Thrud's Grandma
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: bad baseball
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 21:51:37
|
||
Message Number 5720
|
||
|
||
I believe it was the All-star game a couple of years back (I'm sure
|
||
I'll hear about it if I'm wrong about that part) when Ronnie Raygun
|
||
sat in with Vin Scully to show off his announcing skills. Now THAT
|
||
was embararrissingingsassing. It was sort of like the old Lucy Show
|
||
when she says "It's a hit !" and then the sound effect crack of the bat
|
||
sounds. Ronnies timeing and commentary was godawful - makes you almost
|
||
appreciate the professional broadcasters - nah. I'm glad he was
|
||
only the leader of the greatest country on earth and didn't often
|
||
get the opportunity to louse up a good ball game.
|
||
Incidently, let me be the first to start the rumor that
|
||
Jack Kemp will be Big George's Veep in 1992 and Dan Quale will
|
||
be made ombudsman of the Indiana National Gourd.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Ron & George
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 22:01:52
|
||
Message Number 5721
|
||
|
||
When Jim Bob Carter left office, there were three things horribly
|
||
wrong with the national economy (I know there were a million things
|
||
wrong, I mean TERRIBLY EXTREMELY HORRIBLY wrong)
|
||
1. Double digit inflation
|
||
2. Widespread unemployment
|
||
3. a growing deficit
|
||
When Ronnie Raygun left office there was
|
||
1. a growing deficit
|
||
2. the most intelligent incoming president since RMN
|
||
3. cautious optimism and prayer from
|
||
THRUD
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Enterprise Down
|
||
Date & Time: 06/06/90 22:09:46
|
||
Message Number 5722
|
||
|
||
I knew a dolly that liked to move large objects around once....
|
||
no....it was twice.
|
||
Damn, if only the Ferengi hadn't kidnapped the cleavage queen et al,
|
||
Wesley would have been aboard the Bradley and on his way to his
|
||
oral exams and the Acadamy. Well, at least we won't have an acting
|
||
ensign saving the ship anymore.
|
||
an unconcerned Thrud
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: Enterprise Down
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 00:16:08
|
||
Message Number 5723
|
||
|
||
|
||
I used t0 hate the Next Generati0n, then I watched it with0ut
|
||
(what the he11 was that! Garbage spew!) studied ST and disc0vered
|
||
c}i09
|
||
}ims eT 8)4} 4qLvETZ;#
|
||
/NP\&pVnUsLYX\+tJ,]LrKDbSnhF
|
||
c0mpared t0 ST:TNG, the acting in the 01d ST....we11, sucked. Every
|
||
damn epis0de 0f ST, kirk was faced with a cha11enge that c0u1d destr0y
|
||
the federati0n 0r the universe. The excepti0ns were idi0tic, 1ike,
|
||
as D0nthen put it, the Dippy Hippies. I pers0na11y hated the Ap0110
|
||
epis0de, that chari0ts 0f the g0ds thing is stupid.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: bad baseball
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 00:25:00
|
||
Message Number 5724
|
||
|
||
|
||
Why did y0u refer t0 America as the greatest c0untry 0n earth? Y0u're
|
||
n0t a b1ind patri0t, I h0pe.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Small fib con't
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 13:58:25
|
||
Message Number 5725
|
||
|
||
> a white-middle-and-upper-class ethic
|
||
It's hardly isolated to that group. The attitude is almost
|
||
universal in Japan. When I worked for the Senior Friendship Centers
|
||
we had contact with a group in Japan that was trying to deal with the
|
||
problems of the family-less elderly. It is standard there that the
|
||
family cares for their own elder members; there are almost no services
|
||
or avenues of aid for those left on their own.
|
||
Are you equating the term white-middle-and-upper-class
|
||
with the term insensitive?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: CRYSTAL
|
||
Subject: the point
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 14:28:39
|
||
Message Number 5726
|
||
|
||
That makes sense! O.K. Seeing how Friday morning I'll be dragging
|
||
myself to school for those last two finals, and Saturday I'll be sitting
|
||
on a lake (O.K. In a boat, on the lake. Last time I sat on a lake, I
|
||
got wet) waiting for some fish to come and eat some fake looking lure (
|
||
actually, I'll be reading, or if my walkman comes back to life,
|
||
listening to the radio). How'z Sunday? (or Saturday evening, or
|
||
whenever).
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: CRYSTAL
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 14:32:40
|
||
Message Number 5727
|
||
|
||
Re: that really long post about the Enterprise and cars with no roofs.
|
||
You've been hanging around Turtle for way too long.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: CRYSTAL
|
||
Subject: yes
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 14:34:23
|
||
Message Number 5728
|
||
|
||
> As my grandmother always said, "Kill it with cheese."
|
||
|
||
Funny, my grandmother used to say the same thing to my grandfather.
|
||
My grandfather being a hitman made it all the more interesting.
|
||
|
||
...one Mr. Bob Smith was killed when a one ton block of Colby Jack
|
||
landed on his head. Police are investigating. So far, there is no
|
||
evidence but Lt. Ralph Johnson had this to say: "Damn good Colby, what a
|
||
waste."
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Trek movies
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 15:31:56
|
||
Message Number 5729
|
||
|
||
> Yo. <corrected for English typists>
|
||
|
||
Coincidentally enough, that's the name of a graphic novel which is the
|
||
predecessor to Martin Wagner's "Hepcats" comic book.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: RightSoft...
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 15:34:25
|
||
Message Number 5730
|
||
|
||
Yes, they do make RightWriter. So who's your friend? I can't think of
|
||
any family working there, except possibly the DePrees -- I think his
|
||
wife is there, too (somewhere).
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: Trek movies
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 15:35:19
|
||
Message Number 5731
|
||
|
||
I think it's about 4 bucks. Who's going? Lessee, you, me, Turtle,
|
||
Rufus, ... from Tampa, Bart and Wratt. Beatle wants to go, Raven might
|
||
be going, no idea whether Crystal would be interested (much less able
|
||
to), and that's it for now. However, there may be more to come....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: Ron & George
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 15:37:41
|
||
Message Number 5732
|
||
|
||
When RR left office, there was also impending financial crisis at the
|
||
S&L's that is still tying up billions of federal dollars because of his
|
||
administration's wheeling-dealing and a larger percentage of people
|
||
living under the poverty level, and a track record showing absolutely
|
||
no attempt to control the deficit that increased exponentially under his
|
||
terms (except for Gramm-Rudmann, which the administration repeatedly
|
||
sabotaged rather than be forced to make its supposedly unavoidable
|
||
budget cuts). There might not have been as many visible signs of
|
||
economic hardship, but he still didn't do any better than Carter as far
|
||
as money handling goes -- deficits may be abstract to the average
|
||
citizen, but unless something is done about our current one real soon
|
||
(if it's not too late), we'll be in a recession that will make the
|
||
Carter years seem downright hospitable.
|
||
After all, we have concrete proof that the idea of spending borrowed
|
||
money and pretending nothing's wrong is going out of style... "The
|
||
Donald" may be forced into bankruptcy and "Trump: The Excess" is most
|
||
certainly going the way of the dodo bird. The 80's are over, and even
|
||
the most die-hard proponents of "trickle-down economics" are taking
|
||
their blinders off.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: CRYSTAL
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 16:20:48
|
||
Message Number 5733
|
||
|
||
Jim! Jim Kirk! This is your father speaking! Surrender to the dark
|
||
side of the Force, you hoser. Act now, and I'll even throw in AM/FM
|
||
radio, power steering, and a cruise control at no extra cost--and
|
||
I'll even toss in landing skids so you don't tear up the turf when
|
||
you get towed into the hangar. Crockett and Tubbs can't help you now...
|
||
surrender or be faced with car payments FOREVER! Ha ha ha!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: AR Downloads
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 16:27:13
|
||
Message Number 5734
|
||
|
||
Sure, send 'em up!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: bad baseball
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 16:28:21
|
||
Message Number 5735
|
||
|
||
>I'm glad he was only the leader of the greatest country on earth...
|
||
|
||
Ronald Reagan was Swiss?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: Small fib con't
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 16:33:05
|
||
Message Number 5736
|
||
|
||
Ghi! I wasn't suggesting that that ethic (people should be cared for
|
||
exclusively by friends and family) as being /confined/ to the white
|
||
middle and upper classes; I'm saying that that ethic is only effective
|
||
if it's /applied/ to the white middle and upper classes. In this
|
||
country, friends and family of other classes and racial groups are
|
||
frequently nonexistant or not in a position to assist. The tightly-knit
|
||
nuclear family is the rule rather than the exception in middle-class
|
||
America 8although we're working to fix that); and the exception rather
|
||
than the rule in the inner city.
|
||
|
||
I wouldn't say most members of the middle and upper classes are
|
||
/insensitive,/ but I have noticed that they tend to have a somewhat...
|
||
um, narrow world and tend to re-create all of American society in their
|
||
own image.
|
||
--An equal-opportunity Turtle
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: bad baseball
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 16:47:52
|
||
Message Number 5737
|
||
|
||
>Ronald Reagan was Swiss?
|
||
There's a lot of holes in that theory. Might edam gouda, eh?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: Small fib con't
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 18:40:55
|
||
Message Number 5738
|
||
|
||
The traffic in Japan is st0pped up f0r mi1es! They need 0ther transp
|
||
0rtati0n!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Trek movies
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 18:44:18
|
||
Message Number 5739
|
||
|
||
Where can I find that?
|
||
|
||
|
||
By the way, any0ne kn0w where I can find an agent (f0r my b00k)
|
||
damn im tired
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Ron & George
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 18:47:08
|
||
Message Number 5740
|
||
|
||
|
||
I hate r0n f0r the nuc1ear p0wer p1ants. (n0 f10wer j0kes turt1e)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: bad baseball
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 18:48:51
|
||
Message Number 5741
|
||
|
||
B00M! I 1iked that 0ne!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: bad baseball
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 18:50:04
|
||
Message Number 5742
|
||
|
||
H0b E N0b
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Enterprise Down
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 22:17:25
|
||
Message Number 5744
|
||
|
||
> They put the old Star Trek back up for a month.
|
||
|
||
I don't like this "musical Treks" thing. I STILL have to get a TNG
|
||
rerun to complete my collection. They have had Original Trek TWICE since
|
||
the particular TG episode was on last...
|
||
Can't they make up their mind? Or maybe leave regular Trek daily and
|
||
make TNG weekly? I don't understand their idea here. Also, strangely
|
||
enough, Ch. 36 from Ft. Myers is alternating Treks AT THE SAME TIME AS
|
||
44!! They don't even run the same daily episodes... it's odd to say the
|
||
least...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Trek movies
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 22:21:39
|
||
Message Number 5745
|
||
|
||
> June 16th is probably the date everyone's going to be making a trek to
|
||
> see AKIRA.
|
||
|
||
I knew that. I want to go. The thing is, if the movie is in the
|
||
afternoon, we can do BOTH... I need to know what time the movie starts
|
||
in Tampa... I want to do both on the same day because I'm going to have
|
||
my grandmother visiting, and TWO days away would be a bit rude, but ONE
|
||
day to a lot of stuff with friends could pass... Didn't you see my
|
||
message asking about AKIRA??
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: Warp Factors
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 22:51:12
|
||
Message Number 5746
|
||
|
||
I just finished uploading a file to here called "Warp Factors". It
|
||
finished at a whopping 512 blocks on my end.
|
||
My directory says 258, but I guess uploading blocks are different than
|
||
directory blocks on my c=64...
|
||
|
||
Anyway, what the file is is a discussion of warp drive on ships of the
|
||
Federation. Rufus wanted me to upload it earlier, and I just got around
|
||
to it now. The real techincal types should love this. It's long, wordy,
|
||
and full of NUMBERS...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Trek movies
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 23:39:01
|
||
Message Number 5747
|
||
|
||
If we can d0 b0th, I want t0 g0.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Warp Factors
|
||
Date & Time: 06/07/90 23:39:54
|
||
Message Number 5748
|
||
|
||
Put it 0n C0urts's Gfi1es t00. I saw an ana1ysis 0f warp in Star10g
|
||
a c0up1e years back.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Small fib con't
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 00:44:38
|
||
Message Number 5750
|
||
|
||
> The traffic in Japan is st0pped up f0r miles!
|
||
|
||
What in the he11 d0es this have t0 d0 with anything any0ne e1se was
|
||
ta1king ab0ut? ... they were talking about social problems, and you're
|
||
informing us about their space problems. (I could also point out that
|
||
it's a moot point, since most Japanese don't use cars to begin with and
|
||
the best-selling car over there is a 2-cylinder jobber -- there just
|
||
aren't any long distances to go when you're on one of a group of small
|
||
Pacific islands.)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Yo
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 00:47:56
|
||
Message Number 5751
|
||
|
||
You can order "Yo" through Double Diamond Press.
|
||
|
||
Finding an agent isn't terribly easy. It's easiest if you're already
|
||
published. For the most part, you have to be recommended to an agent by
|
||
one of their established clients. You are /probably/ better off finding
|
||
a company willing to take over-the-transom novels, like Del Rey.
|
||
|
||
I could point out that it might not be a bad idea to put your writing
|
||
through workshops, classes, and the like, building into writing a bit
|
||
more slowly. If your work isn't polished enough -- which could mean
|
||
anything from being too first-draftish to violating too many technical
|
||
rules to having a cliched plot, or even just not being in the standard
|
||
manuscript format -- you're likely to get nothing but a form rejection
|
||
letter after waiting eight to sixteen months for a reply.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Trek movies
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 00:53:55
|
||
Message Number 5752
|
||
|
||
Problem: I have no idea when the movie starts in Tampa. I will be able
|
||
to find out this weekend (when I'm in Tampa)....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Warp Factors
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 00:54:57
|
||
Message Number 5753
|
||
|
||
Commodore "blocks" on the disk are 255 bytes long. An XMODEM "block"
|
||
is 128 bytes long. Hence the difference.
|
||
As an item of hacker curiosity, most disk blocks -- what most
|
||
computers call sectors -- are a multiple of 128 bytes long. The CP/M
|
||
standard was originally 128-byte sectors, later changed to 256, 512
|
||
or 1024, depending on the specific machine's format; TRS-80 DOS's use
|
||
256-byte sectors, and MS-DOS generally uses 512-byte sectors. Question
|
||
of the week: if Commodore 64/128 blocks are 255 bytes instead of the
|
||
more obvious 256, where did the other byte go?
|
||
(Answer: damned if I know, and I haven't been able to find anyone
|
||
else who knows, either.)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Small fib con't
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 01:38:04
|
||
Message Number 5754
|
||
|
||
I'd say traffic backed up that far is pretty much as0cia1 pr0b1em t00
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: RightSoft...
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 09:32:51
|
||
Message Number 5755
|
||
|
||
My friend's name is Tony Gagnon......
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: AR Downloads
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 09:33:44
|
||
Message Number 5756
|
||
|
||
Okay -- what's the best way to send it? (ARC, ZOO, LHARC, ZIP, etc..)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Trek movies
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 11:11:46
|
||
Message Number 5757
|
||
|
||
> I have no idea when the movie starts in Tampa.
|
||
|
||
PLEASE find out and let me know when you do.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CRYSTAL
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Great Idea
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 12:00:53
|
||
Message Number 5758
|
||
|
||
Sunday morning would be great. What time.
|
||
* CRYSTAL *
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: AR Downloads
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 12:19:30
|
||
Message Number 5759
|
||
|
||
The best way to send a download is by XMODEM Checksum. If you want to
|
||
know the best way to ARCHIVE it, I'd suggest LHARC. Turtle will
|
||
probably say something different, though. (ARC is the most universal,
|
||
followed by ZIP -- but I can't get things out of all types of ZIP
|
||
libraries, whereas I can get them out of LZH, ARC and ZOO files easily.
|
||
ZOO is pretty much useless except under Unix and AmigaDOS, and doesn't
|
||
save any space over the other ones anyway).
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Warp Factors
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 13:46:43
|
||
Message Number 5760
|
||
|
||
>My directory says 258, but I guess uploading blocks are different than
|
||
>directory blocks on my c=64...
|
||
|
||
Indeed they are. An XModem block is 128 bytes long. A c=64 disk block
|
||
is (get this) /255/ bytes long. Of course, every other computer on
|
||
earth that uses sectors approximately that size uses 256 byte sectors;
|
||
I'm baffled as to why Commodore format uses 255...Anyway, 128 bytes is
|
||
the length of a logical record in CP/M, and XModem originated with CP/M.
|
||
There is also an XModem 1K standard that uses 1K blocks, which is kinda
|
||
neat since a lot of CP/M formats use physical record sizes of 1K. If
|
||
you break the big blocks into little blocks, you get 8 logical blocks
|
||
for every physical block, which is a whole lotta blocks. Then you
|
||
you scatter 'em all over the floor and Mom gets mad, even though you
|
||
explain to her that that's the only way you can find the long, skinny
|
||
red ones because they never put enough of those in a bag of blocks
|
||
and that's always the kind you need to build a castle.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: AR Downloads
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 13:55:12
|
||
Message Number 5762
|
||
|
||
ARC or ZIP files are preferred if you want to send stuff here, since
|
||
most people in the computing universe can deal with both of those
|
||
formats. Almost nobody other than Amiga hackers uses Zoo; LHARC
|
||
can't always be extracted by everyone; and whatever you do, don't
|
||
send me LZC ("vaporized") files. Nobody on Earth except Amiga and Unix
|
||
people can deal with LZC, despite the fact that it's an eeensy-teensy
|
||
tiny bit more efficient than LHARC and therefore is a good candidate
|
||
for the Commpression Technique of the Month (tm) in the Mush world.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: bad baseball
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 17:51:06
|
||
Message Number 5763
|
||
|
||
by golly young spellwind, you're going to have to learn to speak in
|
||
polysyllables (and I need to learn to spell). Straighten up and fly
|
||
right or your mother and I will take away your numeric keypad.
|
||
Hob E. Thrud
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 17:54:52
|
||
Message Number 5764
|
||
|
||
They only have x number of each show available for syndication. When
|
||
they've run thru all the STs, then they should run all the TNG's
|
||
'available', and then back again. Perhaps the one not shown was more
|
||
recent and not in syndication yet. One positive aspect is that they're
|
||
sure to make tons of TNG, having seen the market value of ST reruns.
|
||
Another plus is that now that Wesley is a full ensign, maybe he'll
|
||
get laid and quit worrying about space time warp fulcron eptone belizids
|
||
and saving the ship all the time.
|
||
Don't you wish TNG was R rated and they could have shown the
|
||
cleavage queen in toto (gofer it turtle) when the Ferengi beamed
|
||
her out of her clothes?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: untidy afterlif
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 19:49:16
|
||
Message Number 5765
|
||
|
||
endorfance (sp?), I have heard about that, I just never associated it
|
||
with muscle capabilities. And what I had heard about Angel Dust implied
|
||
that it raised the adrenalin level. Well, I was misinformed. (Shows
|
||
you what highschool biology can do for you!) I whish that they offered
|
||
biology at Ringling! Anyway, I was egzadurating about all the nerons
|
||
firing at once just to make a point. (One should not full around with
|
||
intelligent people like that, they will get you every time!) Someday,
|
||
I believe we will be more able to control our bodies to the point
|
||
were we can actively will most diseases away. (People have done it
|
||
with cancer, and other melignant diseases with a positive attidute,
|
||
and will power.) Allthough, I doubt we ever will be able to stop
|
||
death completely unless we can figure out prosthetic brains! Because
|
||
there is a general cellure breakdown wich can be slowed but not stopped.
|
||
Say the a body starts out with enough energy to make a person
|
||
live for 200 years. Now, if we were not equipped to have children,
|
||
we would be able to use all our energies toward fighting disease, rather
|
||
than the energy intensive childbearing routine, we might be able to live
|
||
for those 200 years. With childbearing, we would have a 100 or less
|
||
lifespan!. Take a look at certain mammels who have children every
|
||
2 to 10 years. I think you will find that they have a much longer
|
||
lifespan. In the opposite childbearing arena, look at mayflies. They
|
||
live for only a few weeks at most. Dying as soon as they breed. So,
|
||
if we can slow down the childbearing process, we could put a lot more
|
||
energy into fighting off diseases, thereby living longer, and have a
|
||
slight population leveling. (I know that if people lived longer, then
|
||
there would be a greater population, but with controlled breading, it
|
||
would soon level off) It would mean not only survival of the species,
|
||
but also a better life!
|
||
And less doctors!
|
||
(Nothing against doctors and lawyers, except for the cost)
|
||
A Broke Tree...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: skirts III
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 20:10:45
|
||
Message Number 5766
|
||
|
||
Perfectionism comes in many ways. I will not be a one of the corporate
|
||
sheep because I cant fit in to any one group (except I do fit in with
|
||
those people who do not fit in!) Anyway, to be original, one has to
|
||
go against the grain once in awhile. That does not mean to break any
|
||
laws. Although, there are some rules, and there will be more, that
|
||
need to be broken. Anyway, If some coporate lamb or english teacher
|
||
judges me soley on my spelling then let that person judge themself.
|
||
If they find themselves perfect than I do not need to talk to them,
|
||
and they do not need to talk to me. After all, they are perfect, and
|
||
would find it very boring to talk to me or anyone else for that matter.
|
||
Anyway, I wish I had paid more attention in highschool to all the
|
||
rules, because by now I would not have trouble with these rules. But
|
||
I didn't, so i will try to be a better speller (and typist!), but I
|
||
am not brain dead (most of the time), so don't judge me by my spelling.
|
||
(Other wise you would think I was brain dead...)
|
||
|
||
Climbing the ladder of life
|
||
And trying not to step on anyone,
|
||
Tree
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: afterlife cont.
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 20:22:38
|
||
Message Number 5767
|
||
|
||
You should not believe that doctors can do everything. They can
|
||
do some wonderfull stuff... but the bodies own immune system is so
|
||
much more wornderfull, as is the brain! I don't think that the only
|
||
way for the body to get adrenalin is from an external source. You
|
||
could probably use a every known instrument to save a person, and they
|
||
could still die with enough will. (of course mechanical means such
|
||
can be used to keep the blood oxygenated, and pumping through the body,
|
||
but that is only a tempory messure. The machine can always be unpluged,
|
||
we can't be (for the most part))
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: express
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 20:29:43
|
||
Message Number 5768
|
||
|
||
Batik, I know of one girl who does quite well at school and can batik
|
||
some quite beautifull pictures. (I hope that batiking is the dying of
|
||
cloth over wax, cause if it isn't then she doesn't and I don't) Any
|
||
way, I love to draw, and I paint with watercolors, oils and guasche.
|
||
I paint and draw in a large format, and someday I hope that they perfect
|
||
LCD displays so that they can be flat and as large as a wall (what a
|
||
wonderfull media to work with - electronic) I have done some sculpture
|
||
which I enjoyed the process, but did not like the finished product!
|
||
|
||
A colorfull tree
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: BBS LIST
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 22:36:56
|
||
Message Number 5769
|
||
|
||
Chipper C1ipper: 754-5677 1200 baud.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: afterlife cont.
|
||
Date & Time: 06/08/90 22:39:58
|
||
Message Number 5770
|
||
|
||
H0w ab0ut Dr. Death, the guy that made that suicide machine and 1et
|
||
a w0man with a1zheimer's (sp?) use it.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: after Death
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 00:36:10
|
||
Message Number 5771
|
||
|
||
Hmmm, depends on how you view suicide. I would say that I do not know
|
||
of one christian religion which does not say that suicide is a mortal
|
||
sin (ie, you will go to hell!)... now, could not Jesus dying on a cross
|
||
be considered suicide? He had powers and his father had powers by
|
||
which he did not have to die on a cross... Is this suicide? He chose
|
||
to die for us (if this is what you believe)... (I personally don't know,
|
||
I would be gratefull if there was a logical answer to this) Now, this
|
||
is why I can't handle most religeons-- too many loopholes! So, if one
|
||
were to throw out the religeous aspect, then people should have the
|
||
right to take their own life. And as far as Dr. Death (as you call him)
|
||
(I can't remember his name either) is concerned, he did nothing wrong.
|
||
If you blame him for developing the suicide machine, then you have to
|
||
blame the original maker of a gun for every suicide that has ever
|
||
been done with a gun! ^the
|
||
As far as I am concerned, the suicide machine is a safe and
|
||
effective means of dying (It won't make yu a vegetable nor will it
|
||
put you in a mental institution). I do not believe that suicide should
|
||
be even conteplated, much less have help doing for a person who is
|
||
drunk, insane, or not in control of themselves... (Same as a will, sound
|
||
mind and body) There is also something called a living will.. It means
|
||
that if you die, or are dying, and you have a living will, the doctor
|
||
and or paramedics will not try and revive you. In this I believe whole
|
||
heartedly.
|
||
Suicide is rarely the right answer, but in certain cases it should
|
||
be allowed. Just like the death penalty is allowed in some states.
|
||
Give me freedom,
|
||
Or at least give me a fresh pop-tart
|
||
Tree
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Okay--
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 14:05:04
|
||
Message Number 5773
|
||
|
||
I'm going to send the files LHARC sice I can't find anything to
|
||
compress an archive -- Just decompress....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 16:03:13
|
||
Message Number 5774
|
||
|
||
The episode I need IS in the syndication. All episodes INCLUDING new
|
||
ones are in syndication (NOT on Fox as some believe) anyway. What they
|
||
have been doing with ST and TNG is running some and then in the middle
|
||
of the episode set, they switch to a mid-season episode of the other, do
|
||
the other show for a while and switch back and say "TNG returns Monday!!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Trek movies
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 17:50:53
|
||
Message Number 5775
|
||
|
||
This is at the Tampa Thearte? Will we be going on Saturday?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Warp Factors
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 17:55:30
|
||
Message Number 5776
|
||
|
||
Much thanks for uploading the file. I'll go and DL sometime soon.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Warp Factors
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 17:57:37
|
||
Message Number 5777
|
||
|
||
All those extra bytes from the C 64/128 are being used the build a
|
||
supercomputer out of the socks you lose in the dryer.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: CRYSTAL
|
||
Subject: Great Idea
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 17:58:52
|
||
Message Number 5778
|
||
|
||
Oh boy, I have no idea. Right now I don't know what's happening to
|
||
my body on Sunday (my brain will be off somewhere, but I could be
|
||
out mountain biking [which, with no mountains within a few hundred miles
|
||
is very hard], or racing cars, or, space aliens could let me help them
|
||
untransreverse Ken Obers brain). How about a weekday of some sort??
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 18:03:48
|
||
Message Number 5779
|
||
|
||
>Don't you wish TNG was R rated and they could have shown the
|
||
>cleavage queen in toto...
|
||
|
||
Yes. I like how the Ferengi operate.
|
||
|
||
On another note. What happens when you transport someone into a
|
||
wall? I assume they die because a wall in you would not be healthy.
|
||
Now, what happens when you transport someone into a sandstorm (like
|
||
in ST II)? Wouldn't that be unsafe?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 19:13:32
|
||
Message Number 5780
|
||
|
||
I'll put it on the "when I ever take the Apple out of the box and hook
|
||
it up I should get this for Turtle" list. I didn't forget about droppin
|
||
the stuff off at your place. I worked late due to "design changes" thta
|
||
involved major data structure revision on my code. Sighhhh Bright
|
||
Point of the Week!!! I just got Turbo C++ and -- WOW! Somebody finally
|
||
made a good platform for programming projects!!! I'm ecstatic and
|
||
wildly delirious... can I code any better ? Nahhhhhhh.....
|
||
But I *am* faster!
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Small fib
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 19:18:08
|
||
Message Number 5781
|
||
|
||
Hmmmm - you wanna re-read your post and point out which of the maladies
|
||
that you would *not* like to see that isn't here right now? You already
|
||
share the hiways, byways and flyways with millions of irresponsible
|
||
people. As far as you paying the tab - read my post again. You play...
|
||
YOU pay. I feel that insurance is the biggest scam before or since
|
||
Dianetics. Why should you insure morons? That's just like a socialist
|
||
plan to save the dumb bastard from the fruits of his stupidity.
|
||
As far as drugs being legal - why not? Time and time again the studies
|
||
show that the REAL problem is education and awareness. Hell what can
|
||
you say about kids getting high on Toulene? They banned airplane glue
|
||
sales to minors for awhile!! Big friggin deal!!!! The attitude those
|
||
kids had was the problem to begin with - not the damned Tolulene.
|
||
SO what do we do? Ou government in it's ever-broadening quest for more
|
||
strings on the populace of potential puppets makes a mega force DEA and
|
||
gives 'em lots of guns, boats, planes, radars and legal powers that
|
||
boggle the mind - for what? To keep certain alkaloids and their chemica
|
||
derivatives out of the hands of a group of people that are hell bent on
|
||
self-destruction anyway. The real vicious loop is the high price the
|
||
stuff commands (from being illegal) that allows the successful dealer
|
||
to have an enviable lifestyle to the fellow inner-city inhabitants who
|
||
figure that this is where the real money and success is to be made by
|
||
people in their social strata. Take out the big bucks and make it
|
||
available to anyone and *poof* the mystique and attraction are gone.
|
||
An Education-is-the-best-weapon JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Small fib con't
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 19:34:42
|
||
Message Number 5782
|
||
|
||
Gee! You weren't finished... how nice! We bitch, piss and moan about
|
||
the high cost of health care and taxes now! Would you care to
|
||
investigate what the tax structure is in these countries that you so
|
||
admire? (Hint: Denmark > 50% taxes!) And to boot the supposed equal
|
||
standing for all is a joke - you got more clout you get better service
|
||
is the rule. Also - why in the hell are we such a sickly crowd anyway?
|
||
Could it be that our giant farm/industrial complex isn't doing such a
|
||
wonderful job of putting REAL nutrition into our bodies? Just about
|
||
any food that you care to name reads like a Jr Chemistry set - nuch
|
||
less the carbohydrate chains that Mother Nature INTENDED should nourish
|
||
and build our bodies. Fact: Europesan countries have a more extensive
|
||
medical care setup for their citizens. Fact: They use them less
|
||
because they are generally healthier in their eating habits than we are.
|
||
Fact: Even though they use them less their tax rates are FAR in excess
|
||
of ours even with our extensive military budget to feed. So what's so
|
||
wonderful about that?
|
||
An Unimpressed JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Party???
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 19:44:09
|
||
Message Number 5783
|
||
|
||
Hexplain why eess eemportant pleyusss.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Incidentally,
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 19:45:35
|
||
Message Number 5784
|
||
|
||
I believe they are hiring in the thermistor department at Hi-Stat. It
|
||
isn't the most challenging job at first but it is a foot in the door.
|
||
There will be major opportunities for SPC in manufacturing with computer
|
||
control soon. The thermistor department is expecting extreme growth so
|
||
it would be a decent thing to be in first on with promotions and such.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 19:48:20
|
||
Message Number 5785
|
||
|
||
Hmmm well, our best "modern" medicine doesn't do too well on viral
|
||
infections either. Were you aware that the best we can do is to put it
|
||
in remission? ANY virus... Also - many respectable scientists are goin
|
||
back to nature to find what many ancient herbologists knew - plants can
|
||
in fact effect cures and remidies for many illnesses that have baffled
|
||
doctors for years. My personal opinion of the "average" doctor is that
|
||
he has at best a 10% advantage over a witchdoctor or shaman in the same
|
||
room and I would PROBABLY prefer their company!
|
||
Ok to play devils advocate:
|
||
MSG - food flavor enhancer - source of the sometimes fatal Chinese
|
||
Restaurant syndrome.
|
||
Thalidomide babies: enuf said of a real tragedy.
|
||
IUD's : birth control touted as "extremely effective and safe" by the
|
||
modern medical community. They are still reeling from the
|
||
damages inflicted on females by this device.
|
||
While not exactly diseases - they are indications that our doctors are
|
||
sometimes no better than fools drunk with their own importance and
|
||
infallibility. Modern medicine! Most of the "advances" that we have
|
||
made are ones of hygiene and not of any miraculous wonder drugs. Every
|
||
year they come out with something new and the doctors prescribe it
|
||
simply because it is new with no thought as to it's effects. There is
|
||
usually a shotgun approach in the medication just so all bases are
|
||
covered. I personally have been prescibed a drug that was used for
|
||
a gram negative bacterial infection when the problem was diagnosed as
|
||
viral!!!! But the doctor assured me that this was being used to treat
|
||
it. What I did was a: never went to a doctor ever again if I can help
|
||
it by trying to eat right and stay healthy b: Made some chicken soup
|
||
with lots of garlic and cayenne pepper. Sweated for about 1 hour and
|
||
felt fine the next morning. Bah! doctors.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Warp Factors
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 20:13:24
|
||
Message Number 5786
|
||
|
||
0 (zero) is a number too and starts the block count.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: untidy afterlif
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 20:16:27
|
||
Message Number 5787
|
||
|
||
Ok here's an exception - the lowly 17 year locust (which we call a
|
||
cicada and is heard going Reee REEEEE RREREEEEEEE RREEEEEEEEEEEEE in
|
||
the trees this time of year) spends 17 years in the ground under the
|
||
tree it eggs wre laid under as a larva and pupae. When it emerges
|
||
and becomes an adult cicada it lives for exactly 3 weeks to breed and
|
||
die.
|
||
Back to Nature JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: skirts III
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 20:20:18
|
||
Message Number 5788
|
||
|
||
You missed the boat - the point of my epistle WAS to tell you that I
|
||
DO NOT judge you on your spelling.
|
||
:)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: express
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 20:22:15
|
||
Message Number 5789
|
||
|
||
I think I met that young lady at the last exhibit that was at Sarasota
|
||
Quay a month or so ago. She in fact , was impressive. There was also
|
||
an artist that I very much admired her work because her cards looked
|
||
so - so - well... girlish but yet her painting evoked such raw emotions
|
||
that I could feel my heartrate go up just looking at one. I was
|
||
intrigued by the contrast because her paintings were very ANGRY. Her
|
||
name was Tippin.
|
||
Ask this person that does the batik if there is a text that I could
|
||
get that describes the technique - pretty please???
|
||
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: after Death
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 20:27:08
|
||
Message Number 5790
|
||
|
||
Man, some of you people have weird ideas about the word SIN. All sin
|
||
is - is something that you are not supposed to do. It is NOT a guaran-
|
||
teed passport to hell or a certificate of perversity. Ok - bring out
|
||
the blinders it's it's <<< OH NO >>> a Bible verse but I won't tell you
|
||
where so you won't feel obliged to look it up:
|
||
For ALL men have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
|
||
Gee that wasn't too hard and it makes you even feel kinda normal knowing
|
||
that even the greatest heroes of the Bible sinned on a regular basis.
|
||
Anyone look up the think about Lot's daughters?
|
||
|
||
A Bible-thumpin JonBoy!!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: MMILLER
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Coherent
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 21:02:32
|
||
Message Number 5791
|
||
|
||
Just thought I'd let you know my first impression of Mark Williams
|
||
new UN*X clone, COHERENT. I've only had it up and running for about
|
||
two days, but here's what I've found so far. First of all,
|
||
installation was a breeze. I gave it an 11 meg partition and it only
|
||
used about 6 meg and that includes the on-line manual and spell
|
||
checker!
|
||
The package seems to fairly complete. It includes a C compiler (K&R
|
||
only, not ANSI and only SMALL model), MicroEMACS, nroff, awk, uucp and
|
||
a host of other utilities. There is a kermit comm. program also. This
|
||
is a much better OS than I had expected for $100. Mark Williams claims
|
||
that COHERENT is very System V compatible and from what I've seen that
|
||
appears to be the case. My only complaint is that their implementation
|
||
of MicroEMACS is a bit on the anemic side. Oh yeah, and I wish the C
|
||
compiler supported some other memory models on Intels brain-dead
|
||
segmented memory scheme. Anyone else out there playing with COHERENT
|
||
yet? I've used other REAL UN*X systems and I can't tell a lot of
|
||
difference yet. Oh, by the way, COHERENT was wriitten from scratch so
|
||
that Mark Williams could avoid the hefty licensing fees from AT&T and
|
||
so that it would run on 286 machines with 640k.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: after Death
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 21:44:41
|
||
Message Number 5792
|
||
|
||
I hate when pe0p1e ta1k ab0ut christ t0 me. I think it's acr0ck.
|
||
I'm f0r the Mercy ki11ing, against death pena1ty.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 21:47:37
|
||
Message Number 5793
|
||
|
||
Besides thew fact y0u'd have sand in a11 y0ur 0rgans, Naaah.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: C0ws
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 21:49:48
|
||
Message Number 5794
|
||
|
||
H0w, 'b0ut that h0rm0ne they want t0 give c0ws f0r m0re mi1k
|
||
|
||
H0w 'b0ut them cubs.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: YNGLING
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Whorf
|
||
Date & Time: 06/09/90 23:36:17
|
||
Message Number 5795
|
||
|
||
Turtle,
|
||
You are commenting on a subject I have never broached. I dont /care/
|
||
whether Kirk was captain kickass or not...I was replying to someone
|
||
else's comments re: Whorf. Personally, I think ST displays an amazing
|
||
lack of advisement re: military protocal ( which accounts for 99.9%
|
||
of the stupid shit Kirk does ). But the subject at hand is Whorf's
|
||
pugulistic abilities which, in the final analysis suck.
|
||
The Yngling
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CRYSTAL
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Great Idea
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 00:32:19
|
||
Message Number 5796
|
||
|
||
Let me know and then I will give you my work scheduel. How does that
|
||
sound.
|
||
* CRYSTAL *
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Trek movies
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 02:09:52
|
||
Message Number 5797
|
||
|
||
As far as I know. I still don't know when it's playing, though. We can
|
||
always buy the Tampa Tribune this Friday and find out fur sure....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Warp Factors
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 02:14:25
|
||
Message Number 5798
|
||
|
||
> 0 (zero) is a number too and starts the block count.
|
||
|
||
Yes, I know. If this is in regard to C= computers and file transfers,
|
||
when I said they had 255 bytes in a disk block, that's exactly what I
|
||
meant, not that they had 256 bytes numbered 0 to 255.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: *ALL*
|
||
Subject: Akira & Stuff
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 12:56:12
|
||
Message Number 5800
|
||
|
||
Okay, I will be leaving town until about Thursday or Friday..My BBS
|
||
will still be up and people can leave me mail if they have any
|
||
questions...
|
||
|
||
I believe the plan is that we are going to see Akira sometime
|
||
Saturday -- Only Donthen knows the true time ON Saturday it
|
||
starts! :) Anyways, as far as I know, I am driving, and bringing
|
||
Rufus & Zot Gnop along -- This leaves room for 2 more people to get
|
||
a ride from me -- I believe Donthen is also driving, or someone
|
||
else -- Anyways, I'd like this..
|
||
|
||
(1) Donthen -- Please E-Mail me the details of what we are doing...
|
||
(OR Turtle can send me mail if he knows what's going on)
|
||
(2) If anyone wants a ride, PLEASE send me E-Mail before Thursday,
|
||
or better yet, send Rufus mail so that he can work out who is
|
||
getting a ride from me....Anyways, live long and prosper....
|
||
|
||
-Ken Ober-
|
||
|
||
CALL THE ABRACADABRA BBS! 813/378-2218 8-N-1-1200 Sarasota, Fl
|
||
|
||
Oh -- BTW...I got word from the author of Paragon...The reason it isn't
|
||
in yet is because he's waiting for V 2.07 to be completed, he said he
|
||
could send me 2.03 if I needed it ASAP -- I told him to wait for 2.07
|
||
I also inquired about the FIDONET question -- he said "It is POSSIBLE,
|
||
but it would be a Herculan task." He believes a limited (2 or 3) echo
|
||
situation can be set up by cutting down the node list to the smallest
|
||
size possible -- He warned me that it would be slow since I am running
|
||
off of floppies, tho....But what I am going to do is use a program on
|
||
my BBS disks ATLEAST once a week that blitzes them into running up to
|
||
500% faster -- This should be of some help....Anyways, see everyone
|
||
when I get back...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: Trek runs
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 19:36:28
|
||
Message Number 5801
|
||
|
||
Now that Wesley's a full ensign, I suspect he's much more likely to
|
||
get eaten by a rabid wombat than to get laid and get a life. If anything
|
||
the little pipsqueek's probably going to take his miscellaneous duties
|
||
as General Ship Savior (tm) even more seriously than before...
|
||
|
||
...when did the Ferengi beam Troi out of her clothes??!! I musta missed
|
||
that one! I knew there was some reason I should become a couch potato!
|
||
(Hey, do you think maybe in the Next Generation movie...?? Naah, never
|
||
mind.)
|
||
--A Next Generation Turtle
|
||
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Warp Factors
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 19:50:22
|
||
Message Number 5802
|
||
|
||
When you download the file, please bear in mind that it is now 66K
|
||
rather than 64K as the file description states, and will take a
|
||
considerable amount of time. Beatle uploaded it in PETASCII; I had
|
||
to write a program to translate it into ASCII and add linefeeds after
|
||
all the carriage returns for people without C= machines. If you don't
|
||
require linefeeds after CR's, then the file will appear to be double-
|
||
spaced to you; you'll have to remove all the LF's from it before you
|
||
try to read it.
|
||
--An EBCDIC Turtle (HA! Just kidding! I hate EBCDIC!)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Small fib
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 19:55:15
|
||
Message Number 5803
|
||
|
||
While I may be forced to share the highway with the occasional drunk
|
||
and cokehead as it is, I'm really somewhat suspicious that the number
|
||
of 'em won't significantly increase if hard drugs are legalized. I
|
||
don't see any problem with legalizing drugs like pot--hell, it's a
|
||
safer intoxicant than alcohol!--but selling heroin in the local
|
||
drugstore and then saying "don't worry, we'll educate everyone so it
|
||
won't be a problem" seems like a kind of insane course of action to
|
||
me. Do you really think that problems with drug abuse will lessen
|
||
if you can go down to the local Circle-K and buy a hit of crack for
|
||
$1.95?
|
||
|
||
On the other hand, the money we're spending to keep it out of the
|
||
country isn't doing two shit's worth of good (obviously--the price
|
||
of coke in Miami is STILL going down!), so interdiction isn't an
|
||
answer either. Perhaps keep drugs illegal AND spend money on
|
||
education rather than wasting it on interdiction? I'm eager
|
||
to hear anyone's solutions, although I'm not really keen on the
|
||
"make 'em legal and cross your fingers" approach.
|
||
--A skeptical Turtle
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Small fib con't
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 20:03:43
|
||
Message Number 5804
|
||
|
||
Yes, the tax structure in a number of European countries is rather
|
||
outrageous compared to that in this country, but I'm not convinced
|
||
that that's due strictly to the fact that those countries have public
|
||
health care. (That's kind of misleading, too...if taxes here were higher
|
||
but we had public health care, we wouldn't have to spend anything on
|
||
medical insurance and similar expenses; I wonder what teh REAL net
|
||
economic impact would be?) In any event, I'm not proposing to model
|
||
a system of public health care after Denmark's or to force the hapless
|
||
John Q. Public to shell out twice as much to Uncle Sam as he does now.
|
||
However, considering that Uncle Sam has a great deal of my money
|
||
as it is, I'd rather it be spent to, say, make American cities
|
||
less closely resemble Lebanon than to purchase, say, large and
|
||
obscenely expensive bombers that are awkward, slow, not radar-invisible,
|
||
and cost literally more than their own weight in gold. The money that
|
||
certain factions of the militart/industrial complex would like to see
|
||
getting blown on the aformentioned flying elephants could quite nicely
|
||
clean up a few of America's more embarrassing messes, and it wouldn't
|
||
be completely lost when some yoyo teaching his kid how to shoot a .22
|
||
rifle accidentally shoots down the most amazing piece of flying hardware
|
||
on earth.
|
||
--A rational Turtle
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Party???
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 20:11:21
|
||
Message Number 5805
|
||
|
||
A video device is important to a furry party because a party doesn't
|
||
become furry until some form of furry entertainment is present. (Mind
|
||
you, the entertainment is necessary but not sufficient to make a party
|
||
furry...it's all very metaphysical.)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Doctalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 20:13:47
|
||
Message Number 5806
|
||
|
||
>Bah! Doctors.
|
||
|
||
If I have a severe streptococci infection, I'll take penecillin or
|
||
E-mycin over chicken soup every day. It's easy to exaggerate the
|
||
effectiveness of modern medical treatments, sure, but it's also real
|
||
easy to go overboard the other way; diseases that were almost inevidably
|
||
fatal even sixty years ago are fairly trivial today. Personally, I'll
|
||
take the doctor with the obnoxious attitude over the shaman with a
|
||
lot of enthusiasm but very little else.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: after Death
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 20:18:08
|
||
Message Number 5807
|
||
|
||
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of Bob...but that's
|
||
okay, he doesn't mind. Bob, you see, can sin right along with the
|
||
best of 'em.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: MMILLER
|
||
Subject: Coherent
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 20:20:12
|
||
Message Number 5808
|
||
|
||
When are they going to port COHERENT over to Z-System? :)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: Worf
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 20:21:19
|
||
Message Number 5809
|
||
|
||
Well, good fighter or no, at least Worf never has to look too far
|
||
for a Halloween costume! /I/ wouldn't want to try to fight him,
|
||
though.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Party???
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 23:07:57
|
||
Message Number 5810
|
||
|
||
Did s0me0ne insinuate the p0ssibi1ity 0f a party?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Trek runs
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 23:41:59
|
||
Message Number 5811
|
||
|
||
> when did the Ferengi beam Troi out of her clothes?
|
||
|
||
It was in the latest Lwaxana Troi episode, "Menage A Troi". The
|
||
Ferengi put Troi and her mother in a cell with Riker, and since they
|
||
don't think females deserve the "honor" of clothes, they beam them in to
|
||
question them without clothes. Thank god they left Riker in the cell!!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Warp Factors
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 23:44:46
|
||
Message Number 5812
|
||
|
||
Sorry about the file. I had NO idea what to do with it since it was
|
||
Pet ASCII. I wish the C= did some good stuff with regular ASCII, but
|
||
alas, I am stuck until I can afford something better. I can't even read
|
||
"FurBytes" since I don't have anything that will convert ASCII and take
|
||
out all control codes and leave the capital letters intact... ah welll.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: rap music
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 23:49:57
|
||
Message Number 5813
|
||
|
||
Well, it looks as if the controversy over the group 2 Live Crew. Not
|
||
only is there now further court problems over the album "As Nasty as
|
||
They Want to Be" but now the group has been ARRESTED! I don't like their
|
||
"music" but I do favor the right for people to listen to it. The heart
|
||
of the matter lies with the interpretation of "obscenity"... Now wht
|
||
does the law define as "obscene"??? I would REALLY like to know.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: oops
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 23:53:54
|
||
Message Number 5814
|
||
|
||
I know, the first sentence of that last message is a fragment. You all
|
||
know what I was getting at, don't you??
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/10/90 23:58:38
|
||
Message Number 5815
|
||
|
||
How far 'back' would you take us? 'Til we're one celled creatures again?
|
||
I think we're really screwing this place up, but we have the potential
|
||
to really do something GOOD here. I read once that the cost over-runs
|
||
(NOT the actual cost, but just the 'over-budget' stuff) for one year
|
||
in the military program for the Nike-Hercules missle project (I believe
|
||
the year was '72) was MORE $money$ then we have spent on the entire
|
||
history of NASA. Just think what we could do if we spent our money on
|
||
trying to live together rather then kill each other......ssssssh*t..
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Incidentally,
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 00:04:32
|
||
Message Number 5817
|
||
|
||
Last time I was up there I think it would be about a 50 mile commute
|
||
just to get to a decent place to live. There are some nice places closer
|
||
, but you had better be willing (and able) to fork out $300K minimum....
|
||
not on $50K a year.......noper
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: rally?
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 00:07:03
|
||
Message Number 5818
|
||
|
||
Yup, the rally trip is a TEAM effort, you either win or loose (or
|
||
just have a damn good time) as a TEAM. Individuals should stay home,
|
||
(or maybe they could man the HELP lines....haha).
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Incidentally,
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 00:11:03
|
||
Message Number 5819
|
||
|
||
How would you know you have done a successful installation of AutoCAD
|
||
if you didn't know how it is supposed to operate???.....strange, these
|
||
humans.........
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 00:13:58
|
||
Message Number 5820
|
||
|
||
It would just seem a little rediculous to cause your own race's
|
||
extinction. THAT would (probably) be a first (and maybe a last).
|
||
Maybe some mutated form of human would take over the planet and
|
||
run things right, equality for all life, respect for other creatures
|
||
and the planet we live on, quality living with nature and Mother Earth,
|
||
planning for the conquest of advanced goals in science and industry and
|
||
in the advancement of the 'good life'............nawwwwwwwww
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: FemTalk (tm)
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 00:17:37
|
||
Message Number 5821
|
||
|
||
I just will admitt to being uncomfortable about it and not very
|
||
understanding of it. I don't buy the argument that it is a 'natural'
|
||
act and many other species of animals practice it so we should as well.
|
||
My daughter had hampsters that had offspring which the mother decided
|
||
to have for lunch one day....hey! a natural act, we should allow it,
|
||
too. Incest was very prominent....hey! another natural act! Don't like
|
||
the way your kids are.....hey, take 'em out...make more! I think I
|
||
can face my children's questions about it....I just don't think I have
|
||
any good answers. My kids are faced with a world of child kidnapping
|
||
galour, child rape, child murder and tourture, early childhood drug
|
||
and alcohol addiction, AIDS, and a host of other things that I don't
|
||
particularly care to throw in the face of a first or second grader.
|
||
I can try my best to let them know how to protect themselves from
|
||
being on a milk carton, but I don't have the answers when they ask me
|
||
'why' people do those things. I guess the homosexual issue would fall
|
||
in theat same gray area.......a sssssssssstimied parental SNAKEBYTE. .
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: IQ & Courts...
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 00:25:45
|
||
Message Number 5822
|
||
|
||
Too many folks out there think testing your IQ is like testing
|
||
your temperature. Well, I guess it would be if all you had to go off
|
||
of was someone's opinion of your temp by looking at you through a
|
||
screen door from across the street. And a different person gave you
|
||
their opinion each year.....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: C.C.A.
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 00:30:28
|
||
Message Number 5823
|
||
|
||
You're welcome (I guess). What does C.C.A. stand for (or is it
|
||
something we should inquire about)?
|
||
ssssssssssS.N.A.K.E.B.Y.T.E.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 09:01:08
|
||
Message Number 5824
|
||
|
||
Ancient Sumer. Bef0re war.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Party???
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 09:15:31
|
||
Message Number 5825
|
||
|
||
Although the furry entertainment in question could be, in addition to
|
||
videotapes and other electronic media, sketches, photocopies, story
|
||
readings (I haven't heard of this one but it seems possible, neh?),
|
||
on-the-spot sketches, odd soft drinks and/or alcohol, juggling foxes,
|
||
and Omaha.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Trek runs
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 09:18:28
|
||
Message Number 5826
|
||
|
||
> ...Thank god they left Riker in the cell!!
|
||
|
||
Although Riker probably wouldn't agree with that sentiment.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Warp Factors
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 09:19:02
|
||
Message Number 5827
|
||
|
||
FurBytes doesn't have any control codes except for imbedded backspaces.
|
||
If your printer has the ability to process ASCII codes, you can just do
|
||
a dump of it that way -- it's supposed to be printed out anyway.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
Subject: Incidentally,
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 09:20:49
|
||
Message Number 5828
|
||
|
||
I've worked with CAD programs before, just not AutoCAD (and not on a
|
||
regular basis). And, it doesn't take a CAD genius, or even one who's
|
||
particularly competent with the program, to get into a drawing mode, see
|
||
if the graphic tablet is working, see if it's displayed correctly on th
|
||
monitor, doodle something (or load a test document) and see if it can be
|
||
sent correctly to all the hard copy devices on the system. You don't
|
||
need to know a damn thing about "PageMaker" to test it, beyond being
|
||
able to select a few leading commands like "Print... (^P)" from the
|
||
appropriate menu.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Trek runs
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 10:01:14
|
||
Message Number 5830
|
||
|
||
>...when did the Ferengi beam Troi out of her clothes??!!
|
||
|
||
Troi and her mother (who's not that shabby). You missed it. Geesh!
|
||
Partial rear nudity.
|
||
|
||
...talk about a nice pair of shoulder blades.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Warp Factors
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 10:03:06
|
||
Message Number 5831
|
||
|
||
>When you download the file...
|
||
|
||
Your to late. I've already got it. Now I shall rule the world!!
|
||
|
||
...now, I hook one end of these wires up to Mountain Dew, the other
|
||
end to a nuclear reactor.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 10:08:29
|
||
Message Number 5832
|
||
|
||
It really ticks me off when someone writes a letter to the editor
|
||
saying "We should stop spending money on space exploration and spend it
|
||
on _____." No one seems to realize that the military spending is much,
|
||
much more than that for NASA. Sigh....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: PETASCII & You
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 17:48:45
|
||
Message Number 5834
|
||
|
||
If you know anything about programming in BASIC, it should be really
|
||
easy to write a program that will convert between PETASCII and
|
||
standard ASCII. To go from ASCII to PETASCII, all you need to do
|
||
is open the file to translate and create a new file for the PETASCII
|
||
stuff. Then, read the characters in one at a time from the input
|
||
file. If the ASCII value of the character is 10 (that's a linefeed),
|
||
throw it away and get the next character. If the value is between
|
||
65 and 90 (these are upperase ASCII letters), add 128 to the value
|
||
and put the new character into the output file. If the value is
|
||
between 97 and 122 (these are lowercase ASCII letters), subtract 32
|
||
from the value and put the new character into the output file. I don't
|
||
know how C= machines handle files or anything like that, but here's
|
||
pseudocode to do it:
|
||
Get the character;
|
||
A=ASC (character); <--Put the value of the character in A here
|
||
If a=10 then loop back to the beginning;
|
||
otherwise, if a>=65 and a<=90 then A=A+128
|
||
else if a>=97 and a<=122 then a=a-32;
|
||
write CHR$(A) to the output file;
|
||
loop back to the beginning
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: rap music
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 17:56:32
|
||
Message Number 5835
|
||
|
||
The legal definition of "obscene" (are you ready for this?) is
|
||
"that which violates the community's standard of decency."
|
||
How's that for a clear-cut, precise definition? Aah, the keen,
|
||
razor-sharp insight of our lawmakers...
|
||
|
||
At any rate, the controversy ovr "2 Live Crew" is /really/ starting
|
||
to piss me off. Some counties are actually sending undercover deputies
|
||
into record stores to try to buy the album, and if the clerk sells it to
|
||
them he gets arrested. I thought this sort of shit only happened in
|
||
places like Kentucky -- you know, states where it's practically a
|
||
crime to smuggle books into the state (assuming anyone there knows
|
||
what a book is). Time magazine had an interesting comment to make
|
||
about the whole 2 Live Crew thing, in their typical underhanded
|
||
way; the brief article appeared in one of their recent issues about
|
||
Governor Martinez, and had a paragraph that ran something like "Since
|
||
his attempt to pass stricter abortion laws backfired and Martinez
|
||
has steadily lost popularity and credibility with members of both
|
||
parties, he has attempted to improve his image by attacking an unlikely
|
||
target: the rap group 2 Live Crew. Martinez seems to feel that if he
|
||
can make a show as a force for morality, he can shed his weak and
|
||
indecisive image and gain popularity with Florida's older, conservative
|
||
population." So, thank you, Governor Martinez, for your selfless
|
||
dedication to the cause of re-establishing the moral values of this
|
||
great state.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
Subject: Money talks
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 18:04:31
|
||
Message Number 5836
|
||
|
||
I'm always baffled whenever I see some random group of assorted oddballs
|
||
wandering around saying things like "Why are we spending so much money
|
||
on space exploration when we have so many problems down here?" and
|
||
"Why isn't that money going whhere it can do some good, like for
|
||
Program X?" I really don't think these people are aware that NASA's
|
||
annual budget is less than one-half of one percent of the military's
|
||
annual budget--or if they are, that fact doesn't seem to mean diddly
|
||
to them. I particularly love when they start complaining that all that
|
||
space money is utterly wasted and doesn't help anyone--generally over
|
||
dinner (you know, cheese sandwiches cooked in a Teflon-coated frying
|
||
pan and leftovers heated int eh microwave), just before picking up
|
||
Junior in their new Firebird (you know, the one with the computer-
|
||
controlled tuned-port fuel-injected engine) from his computer
|
||
programming class (he's hoping to get a job in electronics
|
||
engineering when he grows up) so they can visit Grandma in the hospital
|
||
(she's going to be released if the last CAT scan results are
|
||
encouraging, you see.) Still, they do have a point; after all, what
|
||
good do a bunch of stupid moon rocks actually do anyone?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
Subject: Not FemTalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 18:12:31
|
||
Message Number 5837
|
||
|
||
I'm not aware of anyone who's advocating homosexuality on the grounds
|
||
that it's natural and should therefore be allowed, although I /am/
|
||
aware that some people think it should NOT be permitted on the
|
||
grounds that it's "unnatural" (as if you could really legislate it
|
||
out of existance, and as if, say, city dwelling is natural); to these
|
||
people I would say if your definition of "natural" is "that which
|
||
occurs in nature," then homosexuality is natural by definition.
|
||
I hope you aren't seriously placing homosexuality and eating one's
|
||
children on the same plane; yes, both of them occur in nature, but
|
||
one of them occurs between consenting individuals and does not
|
||
cause harm to innocent bystanders, and the other doesn't. I'll leave it
|
||
to you to decide which one is which, and whether or not this difference
|
||
is significant.
|
||
I also don't see why you are making homosexuality into a "we must
|
||
protect our children" issue. It's certainly a good idea to let
|
||
children know about the hazards of taking candy from strangers, but
|
||
what on earth does that have to do with explaining that not everyone
|
||
has the same sexual habits? You mentioned the need to protect them from
|
||
AIDS--do you think they will contract it by being told that homo-
|
||
sexuality exists? That isn't an issue unless they are sexually active,
|
||
in which case they absolutely need to be told about that possibility,
|
||
regardless of their sexual orientation.
|
||
It still sounds to me like what you're saying is "I'm uncomfortable
|
||
with this thing; therefore, it should not be permitted." In the end,
|
||
though, trying to prohibit homosexuality (or oral sex, or female-astride
|
||
intercourse, or what have you) is an absurdity. You can do just as well
|
||
passing a law prohibiting droughts or floods...in the end, you only
|
||
make a mockery of the law. Regardless, this thing exists, sooner or
|
||
later your children WILL be exposed to it; deal with it. Hey, nobody
|
||
ever said being a parent was easy!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Warp Factors
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 19:10:46
|
||
Message Number 5838
|
||
|
||
> I already go it.
|
||
|
||
Please give me some comments on it... like whether you got past the
|
||
first page.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: rap music
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 19:13:34
|
||
Message Number 5839
|
||
|
||
Thank you, I knew you'd know the law's definition... and /I/ believe
|
||
that they aren't even FOLLOWING
|
||
that definition... How many people have stood up to say "This violates
|
||
my morals"? Not as many as those who stood up to say "This DOESN'T
|
||
violate my morals". NOBODY would have even HEARD of the group if the
|
||
governor hadn't gotten up on his soapbox and said I want this filth
|
||
eradicated. Let's tromp over to his place and see what he's got in that
|
||
closet! He he he...
|
||
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|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Not FemTalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 19:19:12
|
||
Message Number 5840
|
||
|
||
I must have missed some of the previous messages on homosexuality. I
|
||
was speaking to someone the other day about it, and they have an opinion
|
||
that homosexuals should not have intercourse with one another and should
|
||
abstain. Actually, I don't think that's the right attitude, but at the
|
||
same time, I like the idea that this person is not going to out and
|
||
force them to do that. And she certainly isn't passing that attitude
|
||
down to her son. I hate people who think they should make their kids
|
||
believe homosexuality and racism is okay. If they don't say anything,
|
||
that's even worse than expressing the attitude in front of the child. My
|
||
parents are both prejudiced against blacks and homosexuals. I plan on
|
||
not carrying on the attitudes. What I would really like to know now is,
|
||
how can I live and speak with my parents if I don't like their beliefs
|
||
or habits? I want to jump out and say "This is hurting me and you, and
|
||
you should stop. If I do, they will ignore it or get angry..." Ugh,
|
||
who ever said being RAISED by parents is easy?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: rap music
|
||
Date & Time: 06/11/90 22:08:01
|
||
Message Number 5841
|
||
|
||
Silly question here. If you can't sell the 2 Live Crew Album, then
|
||
what's it doing in the store? (unless this ruling applies only to
|
||
minors)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: untidy afterlif
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 00:28:35
|
||
Message Number 5842
|
||
|
||
Well, if we spent 17 years underground in hybernation, we would live
|
||
an extra 17 years also! I thought locust came in 7 year cycles...
|
||
Probing into the great unknown or at least the great don't wan't to
|
||
know!
|
||
Tree
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: skirts III
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 00:31:33
|
||
Message Number 5843
|
||
|
||
Someone, quick, get me a life preserver... Im sinking in my own mis-
|
||
interpetations!
|
||
Floating down the river of life..
|
||
Tree
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: express
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 00:34:30
|
||
Message Number 5844
|
||
|
||
Yes, there are several. I'll try to get the exact information on
|
||
the books soon. (In August, I can get you the books themselves!)
|
||
I'm very impressed withyour descriptive critique. Most people just
|
||
say "Ohhh, they were pretty" or "Verryy interesting". The one I hate
|
||
the most is "My 4 year old could do that".
|
||
The basic principle is fairly simple. Take cloth (Cotten) and paint
|
||
wax on the portion wich you wan't to leave negative, then dye the rest.
|
||
With each succesive color, you must wax the erea that you want to remain
|
||
the same. Each time removing the wax with a cloth and an iron.
|
||
Thats just a very basic overview, but it could get you started.
|
||
|
||
Tune in tomarow for
|
||
"PAINT BY NUMBERS"
|
||
starring
|
||
Tree Beard
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: after Death
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 00:48:07
|
||
Message Number 5845
|
||
|
||
If you reread that, I was not holding christ up and waving him about.
|
||
I merely used it as an analogy in order to say that religion does not
|
||
really have a place in the discussion of suicide.
|
||
|
||
Why are for Mercy killing, and against the death penalty?
|
||
^you
|
||
|
||
Anyway, Dr. Death is not a mercy killer. The women killed herself.
|
||
|
||
I'm for the death penalty, and mercy killing (with permision befor
|
||
hand)
|
||
For one reason, the death penalty could be considered a
|
||
mercy killing. Another thing is that the few people who do get the
|
||
death penalty are killers. Many times multiple killers. (Who can
|
||
not be reformed) 75%of the people who enter prison, then get paroled,
|
||
will reenter prison. So, suppose we let a killer loose. Chances are
|
||
that he will kill again! Suppose we just give life in prison... It
|
||
costs us over 30,000 dollars a year to keep a prisoner. Multiply that
|
||
by 50... Thats very expensive.
|
||
|
||
When I die, my soul to keep...
|
||
Or at least a facsimile
|
||
Tree
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Party???
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 03:02:02
|
||
Message Number 5846
|
||
|
||
What ab0ut R01e p1aying? (N0t with dice, human/furry r01es, p1ay the
|
||
part)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: rap music
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 03:05:50
|
||
Message Number 5847
|
||
|
||
I think it's c010r racism and music racism.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: rap music
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 03:09:34
|
||
Message Number 5848
|
||
|
||
|
||
Hey t0it1e, is there a third party secti0n in the g0vern0r v0ting?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Not FemTalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 03:11:24
|
||
Message Number 5849
|
||
|
||
|
||
I hate parents that make their chi1dren be1eive that sex is a bad and
|
||
evi1 thing.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: vcr
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 05:48:57
|
||
Message Number 5850
|
||
|
||
Whadda ya think vcrs are for, shellhead? TNG is the ONLY tv show I catch
|
||
every week - most other tv is dreck (exept ball games of course) The
|
||
show when Damon didshit decided FE'males are not worthy to wear clothes
|
||
was on June 3rd. Unfortunately, this past Sunday, I learned once again
|
||
that fathers never win, as I gave my daughter a talking to about leaving
|
||
lights/tv/radio/nintento/etal on, then when I programmed the vcr to
|
||
record TNG, she noticed it at about 6:30 and obediently killed the power
|
||
God help anybody who interupts me when they play it again on Sat.
|
||
Who knows what could happen in a TNG movie. In ST V, they had a fifty
|
||
year old, overweight communications officer do a fan dance on a sand
|
||
dune, and that seemed to distract the sentries ( I wouda shot her for th
|
||
feathers)
|
||
'Tis getting tough to get on the board in the evening.
|
||
A caffeining and careening Thrud
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 06:02:06
|
||
Message Number 5851
|
||
|
||
Well, you can't accuse channel 44 of being the big time. The best
|
||
solution I see is that you quit work/school/crime/whatever and get
|
||
a satalite dish and scan channels 24 hours a day until you find it.
|
||
what the hell, we're all getting rectangular eyebballs looking at our
|
||
monitors anyway. Remember, be sure to drink coffee notstop for 12
|
||
hours of the day, and Bud Lite nonstop for the other 12. Otherwise,
|
||
you couls screw up your system.
|
||
Whadda ya gonna do with a TNG library? My brother is returning from
|
||
Spain in a few months, and he's strange enought to watch 40 episodes
|
||
nonstop. 'course, that runs in the family.
|
||
which beatle are you - George , Paul or Ringo? I don't believe this
|
||
echos to where John hangs out.
|
||
Old, tired, sick Joke: What would it take to reunite the Beatles?
|
||
?
|
||
?
|
||
?
|
||
?
|
||
?
|
||
?
|
||
Three more bullets.
|
||
c ya, THRUD
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: beam me up
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 06:11:29
|
||
Message Number 5852
|
||
|
||
"Man was't meant to have his molecules scattered all over the universe!"
|
||
There was a ST when they had to beam down 100 miles (or 10 or 98000) int
|
||
a cavern, a Spock specuted on the unpleasentness of beaming into solid
|
||
rock (facinating)
|
||
On TNG, they have used filtering devices to eliminate nasty bugs from
|
||
beaming aboard - like when DR. Pulaski/Roddenberrrrry got the old age
|
||
blues and when Data was beaming aboard with a disrupter the Chief just
|
||
filtered out the weapon.
|
||
I'm sure our techie turtle(tacky turtle?) will bestow his wisdom and
|
||
knowledge on the subject, and the matter will be laid to rest, and their
|
||
will be peace in the world.
|
||
If you changed your name to Rupus, it would be super backwards, albeit
|
||
spelled incorrectly.
|
||
A Sunrise Thrud
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Party???
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 09:12:25
|
||
Message Number 5853
|
||
|
||
A lot of furries (= furry fans, but extremely so) seem to do that more
|
||
or less automatically. I've noticed that I've started responding to
|
||
startling or confusing questions with catlike noises, and I'm not really
|
||
doing it consciously.
|
||
But as for "real" roleplaying, it's an interesting idea. Knowing
|
||
most furries and their inclination against rules, referees and the like,
|
||
I'm not sure what you'd end up with. (There was a storyboard on a BBS
|
||
in California based on a military sf furry story called "Empires," which
|
||
was run with the "moderator" running things a lot more tightly than any
|
||
other storyboard I've seen. When RDK was being echoed between a few
|
||
BBS's out there, it ended up almost collapsing because of the perceived
|
||
"authoritarian" attitude of this moderator. This story does, of course,
|
||
change dramatically based on which side you ask and there's also some
|
||
other personal conflicts under the surface, but it seems that it's very
|
||
difficult to sustain something furry that isn't also, well, anarchistic.
|
||
I suspect furry roleplaying at a party would simply end up being the
|
||
different fans' characters interacting with each other at a party, which
|
||
(as I said) has been known to happen without any prompting anyway.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: vcr
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 10:13:20
|
||
Message Number 5854
|
||
|
||
I too have a tale of VCR messing with. I programed the VCR to tape
|
||
Max Headroom on Friday night and some show on Saturday morning. The VCR
|
||
taped Max Headroom, but in the middle of the night my dad came out, saw
|
||
the blinking lights (even though the lights were not blinking) and
|
||
hit a bunch of buttons. The alleged blinkers ceased their blinking, but
|
||
the tape also rewound itself, so I was without Max Headroom. After that
|
||
I carted the VCR off to my room. :)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: beam me up
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 10:16:51
|
||
Message Number 5855
|
||
|
||
Of course, if I just leave the name as Rufus, it would spell Sufur
|
||
backwards. People keep pointing out what my name would be like
|
||
backwards. Sigh....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: rap music
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 18:20:53
|
||
Message Number 5856
|
||
|
||
> If you can't sell the 2 Live Crew album, then what's it doing in the
|
||
> store?
|
||
|
||
Well, so far, only 4 counties in FL have declared the album obscene,
|
||
and someplace in Texas ordered the album taken off the shelves today.
|
||
The only place the album is illegal is where it's declared obscene, so
|
||
most of FL is still selling it, but I have a feeling more judges are
|
||
hopping on the bandwaggon. There was a debate over 2 Live Crew on
|
||
Nightline last night. The guy who is leading the attack feels that 2
|
||
Live Crew is obscene and other thigs on the market (Guns & Roses and
|
||
Andrew Dice Clay were mentioned) are not. Well, they're desprately
|
||
trying to put a racist angle into it, and I think that's wrong.
|
||
Unfortunately, the people on Nightline last night kept refuting each
|
||
others facts and taking potshots at each other, so now I'm more confused
|
||
than ever... take the law out of the hands of the idiots and get some
|
||
inteligent people in to debate this.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Not FemTalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 18:28:14
|
||
Message Number 5857
|
||
|
||
|
||
> I hate parents that make their children believe that sex is a bad and
|
||
> evil thing.
|
||
|
||
Hey, I never said anything about that.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 18:30:12
|
||
Message Number 5858
|
||
|
||
To put your mind at ease:
|
||
|
||
1) We already have a satellite dish and I know EXACTLY where to find
|
||
Star Trek.
|
||
2) I don't need to quit school and scan channels. I can scan channels
|
||
and maintain a weighted 4.2 quite fine, thank you very much.
|
||
3) I'm not any particular Beatle, just "Beatle". I got the nickname
|
||
about 4 years back. I do favor Paul though.
|
||
4) Another sick joke: Why can't you go to the bathroom at a Beatles
|
||
reunion?
|
||
.
|
||
.
|
||
.
|
||
.
|
||
A: There's no John.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: vcr
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 18:35:08
|
||
Message Number 5859
|
||
|
||
> it taped Max Headroom...the tape also rewound itself.
|
||
|
||
I take it you didn't tape ANY other Max episodes (or attempt)?
|
||
|
||
I'm getting REAL annnoyed at the lack of success in finding the four
|
||
or five episodes I need to finish my collection.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 18:40:33
|
||
Message Number 5860
|
||
|
||
While we are telling Beatle's jokes. Here's one.
|
||
What do Yoko Ono and a Lady Bug have in common?
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
They both live off of dead beatles.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: vcr
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 18:41:35
|
||
Message Number 5861
|
||
|
||
Nope, I didn't think of taping it when it was on. Stupid move on my
|
||
part. I have about 15 tapes full of stuff I should watch, half of them
|
||
have no labels on them. Oh well, maybe /this/ summer I'll watch them.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 21:59:17
|
||
Message Number 5862
|
||
|
||
Hey, that was a good one.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: vcr
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 21:59:51
|
||
Message Number 5863
|
||
|
||
> I didn't think of taping it when it was on.
|
||
|
||
I did the same thing. I didn't think of taping any. I thought they'd
|
||
last a bit longer. At least I was smart enough to tell my parents not to
|
||
tape over the ones I had. (Like they'd even notice I had taped anything)
|
||
|
||
Hey, what's on the tapes you have to watch? And if you don't know
|
||
exactly, do you have a vague idea?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: book
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 22:02:29
|
||
Message Number 5864
|
||
|
||
Has anyone here read the book "Who Censored Roger Rabbit?" I looked for
|
||
it ever since the movie "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" came out. I finally
|
||
found it right under my nose in the young adult section of the main
|
||
library last week! I must say I wasn't disappointed. It was a wild book.
|
||
Not as tame as some might think. Lots of corruption and foul play abound
|
||
, not to mention that the book takes place in the present, unlike the
|
||
film (which evidently was LOOSELY based on the book)... I think the
|
||
furry fen and many of the others of you here on AR would enjoy it. If
|
||
anyone's read it, let me know what you thought.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Party???
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 22:54:24
|
||
Message Number 5865
|
||
|
||
S0, the questi0n is, when are y0u ressurecting Ace?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: beam me up
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 22:56:25
|
||
Message Number 5866
|
||
|
||
sdrawkcaB
|
||
sudrawcab pr0n0unciati0n 0f backwards backwards.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 22:59:07
|
||
Message Number 5867
|
||
|
||
I wish they'd get rids 0f three's c0mpany. that a1ways was a h0rrib1e
|
||
sh0w.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: book
|
||
Date & Time: 06/12/90 23:01:47
|
||
Message Number 5868
|
||
|
||
Hey y'a11, check 0ut the TMNT graphic n0ve1s.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: rap music
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 00:27:34
|
||
Message Number 5869
|
||
|
||
Well, the judges are trying to put the will of the "people" and it's
|
||
laws. They are actually bordering on a line of Free Speech and obsenity
|
||
What is obscene? What is not? What about "stroke mags" and "porn",
|
||
both soft and hard. Vidio stores rent porns, and mini marts sell all
|
||
types of magazines. Why isn't that considered obscene material?
|
||
I myself have not heard Two Live Crews Album, but I doubt it could
|
||
be much more sexually explicit than a porno.
|
||
|
||
Yep, I'm gonna get me some of my judge friends together and drink
|
||
some beer and burn some a dem der bad books.........
|
||
|
||
Were do we draw the line?
|
||
(I know, lets amend the constitution and make anything written
|
||
illigal thats written, sung, painted, or spoken!!)
|
||
|
||
Peritin thoughts are returning and the free thinkers had better
|
||
keep their eyes open, otherwise we might loose all of our rights!
|
||
Not that I'm personally fond of cuss filled rap, but I would rather
|
||
have that then shelves at the record store full of Slim Wittman's
|
||
albums.
|
||
|
||
Freedom.. use it or loose it!
|
||
Tree Beard
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 00:42:40
|
||
Message Number 5870
|
||
|
||
Ooohhhh ack... Sick but cute.
|
||
Tree
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 00:46:56
|
||
Message Number 5871
|
||
|
||
How 'bout "The Ropers"... thats quality programming if I ever saw
|
||
it! (Yes, sometimes it can be found if you look for it (with a dish))
|
||
|
||
Anyway, every watches too much T.V. So it helps when there is
|
||
nothing on worth watching, it is easier to turn off!
|
||
|
||
Tree
|
||
My personal favorite has to be Family Feud.. I can't believe it is still
|
||
on... Rech!
|
||
^t
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: vcr
|
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Date & Time: 06/13/90 01:33:45
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Message Number 5872
|
||
|
||
Nothing of any relevance. Most likely some movies I'll never watch,
|
||
some old episode of ST:TNG (maybe, I'm not sure). Gads, I'll get
|
||
around to watching them one day.
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===========
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|
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From: RUFUS
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 01:39:41
|
||
Message Number 5873
|
||
|
||
>My personal favorite has to be Family Feud..
|
||
|
||
Eeeeeek! Please, no! To borrow a line from "Weird Al" Yankovic
|
||
"I'd rather clean all the tiolets in Grand Central Station with my
|
||
tongue than spend one more minute with you."
|
||
|
||
...it's late, and I can't spell toilets, but I do like pizza.
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|
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From: TURTLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: rap music
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 01:54:20
|
||
Message Number 5874
|
||
|
||
>If you can't sell the 2 Live Crew album, then what's it doing in the
|
||
>store?
|
||
|
||
That's a good question. Until last week, I'd have said that you can't
|
||
sell them to minors, but there was a record store owner arrested
|
||
recently for selling it to an undercover porker who /wasn't/ a
|
||
minor, so I really can't tell you.
|
||
|
||
Isn't it nice that our state's law enforcement machinery is working so
|
||
very hard to protect us from things which might offend our morals?
|
||
If they'd show this much enthusiasm toward protecting us from things
|
||
which might steal our wallets, I'd feel much safer.
|
||
--An unimpressed Turtle
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||
===========
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||
|
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From: TURTLE
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: Before Death
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 01:59:05
|
||
Message Number 5875
|
||
|
||
>For one reason, the death penalty could be considered a mercy killing.
|
||
|
||
Huh? I missed that one...I suppose some people might find death
|
||
preferable to, say, life in prison, but I don't really think the
|
||
individual in question gets to make that choice. In any event, I would
|
||
tend to think that mercy killing doesn't apply to individuals who
|
||
don't especially want to be killed.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: rap music
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 02:01:24
|
||
Message Number 5876
|
||
|
||
>I think it's c010r racism and music racism.
|
||
|
||
I don't think race has a whole lot to do with 2 Live Crew's album,
|
||
frankly. Have you seen it? More than half the song titles include the
|
||
word "fuck," and the lyrics themselves don't stint much in the
|
||
profanity and explicit sexuality themselves. If ever there was an album
|
||
screaming "Hit me! Hit me!" that one is it, and I think it probably
|
||
would have run into trouble if the people producing it had been
|
||
white Southern Baptists. While I don't approve of censorship in /any/
|
||
form, it's groups like 2 Live Crew who make it very difficult to
|
||
remember why.
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||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: rap music
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 02:04:58
|
||
Message Number 5877
|
||
|
||
>...is there a third party section in the governor's voting?
|
||
|
||
Ghod only knows. I sure don't...I don't recall seeing any Libertarians
|
||
running for office, though.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: beam me up
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 02:08:10
|
||
Message Number 5878
|
||
|
||
>I'm sure our techy turtle(tacky turtle?) will bestow his wisdom and
|
||
>knowledge on the subject...
|
||
|
||
...but he'd really rather not. The whole transporter is kind of a
|
||
fuzzy can of worms. When you beam down onto a planet, what happens to
|
||
the air you displace? Easy to forget about, but it's a significant
|
||
volume of air...think about the shockwave produced by a gunshot, and
|
||
the volume of displacement there is trivial compared to the volume of,
|
||
say, a pointy-eared walking computer. What happens if you appear two
|
||
feet off, or under, the ground? For that matter, when you are in orbit
|
||
there is a huge relative difference in kinetic energy and potential
|
||
energy between yourself and the ground (we're talking a few thousand
|
||
miles per second of kinetic energy and the force of a several-hunderd-
|
||
mile fall in potential energy, here), yet you don't promptly turn into
|
||
mush or a glowing ball of plasma when you re-materialize. Then you get
|
||
into the philosophical implications--what would happen if you could
|
||
record a transmission and replicate the person transmitted a few dozen
|
||
times? What if you figure out a way to send someone to a planet without
|
||
destroying the original copy of that person in the transporter? For that
|
||
matter, is the person who arrives on the planet the same as the person
|
||
who entered the transporter? Is his consciousness the same, or do you
|
||
effectively die when you are transported, and get replaced by a new
|
||
individual with all your memories and all your personality traits?
|
||
I don't /even/ want to get into it...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: book
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 02:17:40
|
||
Message Number 5879
|
||
|
||
>Hey y'a11, check 0ut the TMNT graphic n0vels.
|
||
|
||
But be sure to return them by the due date, or you'll get a fine!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: beam me up
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 05:33:17
|
||
Message Number 5880
|
||
|
||
Several of these problems have been dealt with - 'member Kirko getting
|
||
split into good and evil twins ( and that horny dog) Wasn't it at the
|
||
beginning of ST I when somebody, maybe even some science officer, got
|
||
turned into a pile of mush by the transporter and
|
||
Decker took over the Science Board.
|
||
Anyhow, almost all transporter problems were resolved in the FLY II,
|
||
when Jeff Goldblums son learned the valuble lesson "If you fuck up,
|
||
your girlfriend will blow you away with a shotgun, so it's better to
|
||
stick to transmuting corporate presidents into dogs" Thats entertainment
|
||
Let's make a effort to keep the conference of a higher philosophical
|
||
plane - everyone knows that TNG, the Simpsons and ball games are
|
||
the only things of value on commmercial TV.
|
||
I saw Suzanne Somers in Playboy 15 years ago - and even then she
|
||
needed some underwire support.
|
||
Mets 19
|
||
Cubs 8 Now THAT'S entertainment
|
||
A Thrud beholding the crack of Dawn
|
||
(Shh, don't wanna wake her up yet)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: weighted 4.2
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 05:48:05
|
||
Message Number 5881
|
||
|
||
Jeez, I can only manage a 3.9, 'course, I waste a lot of my time
|
||
paying for a truck, and Olds, a house, a wife and 1 and 2/3 rug rats.
|
||
I guess that means I have a weighted 3.9, since I have a ball and
|
||
chain around my neck. The real reason I post at 5:30 is that this is
|
||
the only time I get some peace and quiet. Wait til the day your
|
||
daughter is giggling on the phone for three hours, and then 5 minutes
|
||
after you log in starts with "Daaaaad, are you STILL on the phone"
|
||
She thinks she's getting a new phone for her BDay - in reality, I'M
|
||
getting a new phone in my den for her birthday, and she can have the old
|
||
one.
|
||
This concludes my grumbling for the day.
|
||
An awakening THRUD
|
||
.
|
||
What yellow and ugly and sleeps alone?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: sufur
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 05:57:06
|
||
Message Number 5882
|
||
|
||
I know what you mean - sometimes, to be cute, my daughter calls me
|
||
'dad' instead of 'dad' - and you wouldn't believe what she calls her
|
||
mon. Ah well, Able was I ere I saw Elba.
|
||
Durth
|
||
(ok ok, that's not quite backwards, but it has a better effect)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: rap music
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 06:32:29
|
||
Message Number 5883
|
||
|
||
If they're g0ing t0 ban tw0 1ive crew because 0f pr0fanity, what c0mes
|
||
next? Wi11 we be watching G m0vies and wi11 they dictate what is 'safe'
|
||
f0r us t0 read and 1isten t0? WHAT'S THE FAV0RITE SH0W IN THE WH01E WIDE
|
||
W0R1D???
|
||
THE RUNNING MAN!!!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 06:36:34
|
||
Message Number 5884
|
||
|
||
I 0n1y watch a Max 0f 4 h0urs 0f TV a day (1ess when n0t a wrest1ing
|
||
night), s0 I want the sh0ws I watch t0 be w0rth watching. Anyb0dy watch
|
||
the R0dney Dangerfie1d sh0w? H0w many rec0gnized Punky Brewster???
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: rap music
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 06:40:57
|
||
Message Number 5885
|
||
|
||
Megadeth.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: rap music
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 14:23:34
|
||
Message Number 5887
|
||
|
||
Turtle writes:
|
||
Isn't it nice that our state's law enforcement machinery is working so
|
||
very hard to protect us from things which might offend our morals?
|
||
If they'd show this much enthusiasm toward protecting us from things
|
||
which might steal our wallets, I'd feel much safer.
|
||
--An unimpressed Turtle
|
||
|
||
But don't you see? 2 Live Crew's music makes people want to steal
|
||
wallets, so by stopping the sale of the music, you stop the cause of
|
||
these people becoming thieves.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 18:24:19
|
||
Message Number 5888
|
||
|
||
Hey, "Family Feud" is a pretty interesting game show! Anyway, I didn't
|
||
know you could find the "Ropers" with a dish (not that I'd want to!) but
|
||
you could just go down to Channel 40 and ask, and they'd probably show
|
||
you their tapes of the show...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: weighted 4.2
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 18:30:40
|
||
Message Number 5889
|
||
|
||
> "DAAAAAAD! Are you still on the phone?"
|
||
|
||
Hey, I already get that from my sister! (sans the DAAAAAD part)....
|
||
.s
|
||
oops...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 18:32:23
|
||
Message Number 5890
|
||
|
||
> How many recognized Punky Brewster?
|
||
|
||
I did! (Like that's something special?) It wasn't too hard. Did you
|
||
see that unsold pilot she did about a year back? Anyway, you'll also
|
||
notice that the brother and sister in that show were also both in the
|
||
film "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids", but they were in different families
|
||
there...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: Star Trek
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 18:35:22
|
||
Message Number 5891
|
||
|
||
If you are coming to the Star Trek series at Litchfield Cinemas this
|
||
Saturday (the 16th) at 10AM, then do the following:
|
||
1) Send me mail and inform me you will be there. I want to take a count
|
||
2) Be at the theatre BY 9:45!! I need to collect money and get tickets.
|
||
3) Bring $1.50 for admission. We will not pay for you if you forget the
|
||
money. Bring money for food and drink if you want any.
|
||
We will meet to the LEFT of the theatre entrance. I will be there
|
||
wearing a red/white striped shirt and a Star Trek button.
|
||
|
||
Live long and prosper.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 22:29:11
|
||
Message Number 5892
|
||
|
||
HEY!!! I heard that they (44) were dr0pping ST AND ST:TNG!!!!!!!
|
||
They're supp0sed1y being rep1aced py the 1/2 hr. sitc0ms that I hate
|
||
s0 much!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: beam me up
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 23:23:59
|
||
Message Number 5893
|
||
|
||
>...everyone knows that TNG, the Simpsonms and ball games are the only
|
||
>things worth watching on commercial TV.
|
||
|
||
TNG, yes; the Simpsons, yes; ball games, no. Nothing is more tedious
|
||
than watching overdeveloped Neanderthals grunt, sweat, pick, spit,
|
||
and bash each other for two hours. For some mysterious reason, I noticed
|
||
that your list is missing "Married...With Children;" just an oversight
|
||
on your part, I assume.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: rap music
|
||
Date & Time: 06/13/90 23:28:16
|
||
Message Number 5894
|
||
|
||
Well, if 2 Live Crew's music is responsible for people turning to a
|
||
life of crime, then by all means ban it!
|
||
...I wonder what sort of music turns people into Yuppies.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/14/90 00:34:00
|
||
Message Number 5895
|
||
|
||
> I heard that they were dropping ST AND ST:TNG!!!!!!!
|
||
|
||
I doubt that... where did you hear that?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/14/90 00:42:59
|
||
Message Number 5896
|
||
|
||
Cold anchovy pizza with extra cheese!
|
||
Just kidden about "Family Feud"... terrible show, but with all
|
||
that kissing, I just had to watch!
|
||
|
||
Tree
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Before Death
|
||
Date & Time: 06/14/90 00:46:43
|
||
Message Number 5897
|
||
|
||
>I suppose people might find death preferable to, say, life in prison...
|
||
|
||
My point exactly.
|
||
|
||
>...but I don't really think the individual in question get to matke
|
||
that choice.
|
||
|
||
Thats right. They gave up that choice when they committed first
|
||
degree murder. That is usually the way criminal get the death penalty.
|
||
People in prison give up almost all of their rights... as well it should
|
||
be. Prison is no country club, but if certain elements had it their way
|
||
it would be.
|
||
There is a knew idea that is being implemented that would save the
|
||
taxpayers a lot of money (I don't know the exact figures) Its called
|
||
Boot Camp. It is for first time offenders, and it is just like the
|
||
army version. They say the repeat offences are down to 25% with this
|
||
program. In ten years who knows? But it works now!
|
||
|
||
Tree
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: beam me up
|
||
Date & Time: 06/14/90 00:55:52
|
||
Message Number 5898
|
||
|
||
With the air displacement problem, all that would have to happen is
|
||
the person would replace the air, and the air would materialize on the
|
||
ship. Or better yet it would be put into outer space. The vaccum would
|
||
probably take care of it (Near Vaccum).
|
||
|
||
Tree
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: rap music
|
||
Date & Time: 06/14/90 01:00:46
|
||
Message Number 5899
|
||
|
||
Im an painter, and I can't agree with you more.
|
||
|
||
I still enjoy "Dr. Who","Saturday Night Live", and "Late Night" but
|
||
i'm just wierd!
|
||
Tree
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: reruns
|
||
Date & Time: 06/14/90 01:04:21
|
||
Message Number 5900
|
||
|
||
Punky Brewster... recht. I can't stand cute kids! The only reason I
|
||
like Bart Simpson is that he is not a cute kid!
|
||
4 HOURS? Wow, if I had 28 hours in a day, I still would not
|
||
watch 4 hours of T.V. Thats 870,000 hours of tv in your lifetime!
|
||
WOW!
|
||
Tree
|
||
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|
||
|