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From: RUFUS
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Cobalt
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Date & Time: 05/28/90 21:56:03
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Message Number 5300
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It's rather easy to hold a potluck in a chemistry room. Just have
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people bring food into the room. That's it. Why have it in there?
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I suppose it would be easy to heat stuff, what with all those bunsen
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burners [lemme tell ya, it does wonders on fondue!]. And the Chem.
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room may have been the only one with a fridge and oven and stove.
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From: RUFUS
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To: BEATLE
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Subject: Future III
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Date & Time: 05/28/90 22:01:06
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Message Number 5301
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Me, I liked the ZZ Top bit, and the Frisbee Pie plate. And the wake-up
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juice.
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"That's just a reflex."
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From: RUFUS
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To: CORWYN OF AMBER
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Subject: No more skirts!
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Date & Time: 05/28/90 22:04:22
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Message Number 5302
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I'd rather deal with a fraggle than a smurf. Fraggles have neat hair,
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smurfs wear dorky hates. Fraggles also sing better songs.
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"Papa smurf, papa smurf, Gargamels got a MX missle."
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The end of those wretched blue excuses for ink.
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From: RUFUS
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To: RAVEN
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Subject: Arnie
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Date & Time: 05/28/90 22:13:42
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Message Number 5303
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Err, Saturday is O.K. with me. I'm not sure which theatre (General
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Cinema or AMC) it is at, since both theatres have signs up, and
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both player trailers for the film. If it's at AMC, midnight would be
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good.
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From: DONTHEN
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To: BEATLE
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Subject: skirts
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Date & Time: 05/28/90 22:28:34
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Message Number 5304
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I believe Sigourney Weaver was contracted to appear in Alien III, but I
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don't know whether or not she's starring. I haven't heard anything
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about the project since the writers' strike in 1988, during which
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William Gibson had stopped working on the script.
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Incidentally, Sam Hamm (scripter for BATMAN) also stopped working on
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the second draft of ol' Bats during that strike, and the "co-writer"
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of the screenplay in the credits never worked with Hamm at all -- he was
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essentially a "scab." A lot of the boneheaded ideas in the final
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version as compared to the original screenplay, most notably making the
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Joker the murderer of Wayne's parents and the removal of Wayne's more
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psychotic elements -- along with some of his characterization -- came
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from this co-writer, who had a decidedly more Hollywood bent than Hamm
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does.
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From: DONTHEN
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Poem
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Date & Time: 05/28/90 22:33:20
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Message Number 5305
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Xanadu was a song by ELO, sung by Olivia Newton-John. It was about a
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divinely ordained roller skating rink and had nothing to do with the
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poem "Kubla Khan", despite what this weird paper about rock versions of
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Colerige poems I read at New College claimed. The paper complained
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that the song was really bad and had nothing to do with the poem. It
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WAS a fairly lame song (beastly complicated music that you wouldn't be
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able to tell by listening to it, but the lyrics, er, weren't), but it
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wasn't SUPPOSED to have anything to do with the poem. I hate it when
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people misinterpret classic literature by soft rock/country crossover
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artists from Australia, especially when they're really pretty soft
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rock/country crossover artists from Australia.
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From: DONTHEN
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To: RUFUS
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Subject: Gadget
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Date & Time: 05/28/90 22:40:34
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Message Number 5306
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> "Moss grows on the north side of arc welding, so I must be heading
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> west...I think."-Gadget
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Quoting Gadget? Don't tell me you're ANOTHER one who wants to sleep
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with her? You sick... furverts.
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Of course, I should talk. I had a dream within a dream last night. I
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woke up from one dream to discover I was lying on my futon (footon?
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footun? gray mattress-like thing) and Tyler, Dan, Bart and Wratt -- who
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were all, inexplicably, spending the night in Turtle's living room with
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me -- were all up and talking. This, too, was a dream; I woke up from
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it a moment later to find myself lying on my futon with Tyler, Dan,
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Bart and Wratt all asleep around me. This, however, was reality, or
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what passed for it. The original dream was gone by this point, but I
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could remember only two vague impressions from the top level of the
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dream: Gadget looks really cute without any clothes, and she's really
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sexually frustrated.
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===========
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From: DONTHEN
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To: CHIP P. UNICORN
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Subject: substitutions
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Date & Time: 05/28/90 22:46:02
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Message Number 5307
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> Libertarianism is usually considered more right-wing than left wing...
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Depends on who you ask. Libertarianism runs the gamut from Abbie
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Hoffman to Atilla the Hun, as its political philosophy isn't inherently
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connected to the subjects liberals and conservatives usually find to
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disagree on. It's "conservative" in the sense that liberals are usually
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presumed to like big, intrusive government and conservatives aren't,
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but the Reagan era seems to have shown that conservatives can be just as
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good as making government big -- they just concentrate on different
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parts. People on either side can come to the conclusion that a minimal
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government in ALL areas might, in the long run, be better than a huge
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one, regardless of whether or not more is spent on defense or welfare.
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Those people are libertarians, or potential libertarians. You are
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quite likely to find libertarians who are pro-choice and anti-gun
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control, which is something "conventional" liberals and conservatives
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are often confounded by.
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Of course, since you're unlikely to see this message, sending it to
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you is kind of pointless, isn't it?
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From: DONTHEN
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To: CORWYN OF AMBER
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Subject: substitutions
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Date & Time: 05/28/90 22:52:49
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Message Number 5308
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This is something I'd /heartily/ agree with. If you stick your nose
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into a subject in what would sure as heck SEEM to be a serious fashion,
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especially if you do it in a manner directly attacking another BBS user
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(or his messages, or even general beliefs), you have to be prepared for
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people to take you seriously. Coming on after the fact and saying,
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"Gosh, it's sure nice to see all these people posting, you weren't
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really taking me literally, were you?" is, if nothing else, kind of
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odd. This nebulous concept of "tone" DOES come through in writing, and
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if you're writing a fairly long message on a fairly touchy subject --
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especially if you're being critical of somebody else, for Pete's sake --
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making sure you're saying it in the way you intend it is only logical.
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A cynical person would say that a "ha-ha, I wasn't serious" post is just
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a way to back down and try to save face after you've decided that you
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were either wrong or came across a lot more strongly than you had
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intended, but don't want to apologize for fear it'll make you look like
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you're changing your position. But, not being a cynical person in the
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least, I wouldn't think that. Ever.
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===========
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From: DONTHEN
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To: SPELLWIND
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Subject: StarTrekkies
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Date & Time: 05/28/90 22:59:10
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Message Number 5309
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Orcs are short, too. Depending on who you ask. Some books and games
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have them at dwarf size; others have them up to 7 feet tall. The world,
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even in the realm of Generic Fantasy Adventure <tm>, does not revolve
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around products from TSR. You will eventually learn that plots and
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ideas that make great Dungeons & Dragons adventures make kind of bad
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stories if you're at all concerned with things like, oh, character
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development, originality, etc. Hell, even Weis & Hickman left the
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realm of AD&D. They still need to work on one, JUST ONE, book that's a
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cyberpunk sf novel or some such, but the stuff that they're doing now
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in things like DRAGON WING is stuff that TSR would never do. DRAGON
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WING is reasonably well-written from a technical standpoint, and from
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an imagination and characterization standpoint, it's pretty damn
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impressive, even in spite of kludgy narration problems.
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...of course, it's still in a lot of trouble when compared to
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anything by Orson Scott Card, or even Barbara Hambly.
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===========
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From: DONTHEN
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To: BLACK MAGIC
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Subject: ...
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Date & Time: 05/28/90 23:09:23
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Message Number 5310
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> Now it is! :)
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Yes, so I see.
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From: TURTLE
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To: BEATLE
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Subject: ///---
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 02:50:36
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Message Number 5311
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That was a joke, Son. The John Birch society is a hyper-paranoid,
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hyper-conservative organization that's centered around a blinding
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hatred of the Soviet Union. They constantly publish propaganda
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explaining why we are actually at war with the Reds, and why Commies
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and liberals should be executed or driven out of the country. Anyway,
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they are named after a U.S. soldier (John Birch) who was accidentally
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killed by Soviet troops at the end of World War II; the John Birchers
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claim that he was actually the first casualty of WWIII rather than
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the last casulty of WWII. All in all, a remarkable bunch of
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people--and I mean that in the worst possible way.
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===========
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From: TURTLE
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To: THRUD
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Subject: neckwear
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 02:58:06
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Message Number 5312
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>jeez you can turn a fraze...
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Frazers on full, Captain! We'll fry the friggin' Ferengi to
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a frazzle.
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===========
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From: TURTLE
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To: BLACK MAGIC
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Subject: Not God...
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 03:02:34
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Message Number 5314
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>You are sick.
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That's one of my better traits, too.
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--A sick Turtle
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You forgot warped, perverted, bad-tempered, irritable, inconsistent,
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incoherent, inattentive, unmotivated, stubborn, lazy, smug, unethical,
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irreverent, anarchistic, disrespectful, obstinant, and irreligious.
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===========
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From: TURTLE
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To: BLACK MAGIC
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Subject: God...
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 03:10:45
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Message Number 5315
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>...but atleast my fellow classmates...don't light themselves on fire!
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No, they just engage in psychological torture and vicious, maliciously
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sadistic activities for no readily apparant reason.
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Don't /even/ try to out-nasty me...you know damn well what I'm talking
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about.
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===========
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From: TURTLE
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To: DONTHEN
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Subject: Poem
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 03:15:27
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Message Number 5316
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I was referring to the Rush song entitled "Xanadu," which /is/
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related to the poem "Kubla Khan." (Pthpth!) The Rush song, in
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addition to having a connection with the poem, is lyrically and
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musically more interesting than the Olivia Newton-John song,
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has higher technical production standards, and doesn't even
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mention anything resembling a darned skating rink.
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ONJ is prettier than Geddy Lee, though.
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--A Rush Turtle
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===========
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From: TURTLE
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To: -ALL USERS-
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Subject: A/R
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 03:21:18
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Message Number 5317
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Well, the system crashed *twice* yesterday (05/28), once in the wee
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small hours of the morning and once again at midnight. We've survived
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with the loss of only three messages; on the other hand, the system was
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unavailable for several hours yesterday because of the problems.
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Anyone know where I can find some RELIABLE 80-track floppy drives
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cheap?? These IBM drives have /got/ to go.
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--An annoyed Turtle
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Now if we take this beautiful crystal goblet, and drop it from the
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top of this biiiiiiig building, we'll have Alter Reality's message
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base scattered all about the ground...
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===========
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From: BEATLE
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To: KEN OBER
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Subject: ST & ST:TNG
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 06:31:30
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Message Number 5318
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> Yes, but ST:TNG has no relation whatsoever to the original Star Trek
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> books...
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Where'd you get that idea? It's wrong.. WHY?? They happen in the same
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universe with the same Federation, and some of the same people.
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===========
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From: BEATLE
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To: RUFUS
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Subject: moral
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 06:35:00
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Message Number 5319
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Well, the movie's point (BTTF III) was about how Marty's life would be
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much better since he learned not to let it bother him when someone calls
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him chicken. I was thinking in a larger scale, that the Romulans do
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things that provoke the Federation in that manner, and they shouldn't
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act on them...
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===========
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From: BEATLE
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To: RUFUS
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Subject: Future III
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 06:38:12
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Message Number 5320
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> and the wake-up juice.
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I loved how the audience groaned when the saw the stuff being poured
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down his throat.
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===========
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From: BLACK MAGIC
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To: DONTHEN
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Subject: ...
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 09:20:15
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Message Number 5321
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:)
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===========
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From: BLACK MAGIC
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Not God...
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 09:23:13
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Message Number 5322
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....YOU forgot harasshole.
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===========
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From: BLACK MAGIC
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: God...
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 09:23:54
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Message Number 5323
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Bastard from hell! I can out nasty you anyday...admit it. I'm a
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cpmplete bitch with no heart at all. I also have no morals, right?
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I am nastier than thee...ask my mum!
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===========
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
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To: RUFUS
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Subject: skirts
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 09:35:24
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Message Number 5324
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Yeah, I loved that line, I've got a friend who'd I'd be /really/
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nervous driving with sober... He hasn't had any practice!
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"Trust me, I got an /angle/"{{
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- Corwyn
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===========
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
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To: RUFUS
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Subject: No more skirts!
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 09:38:59
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Message Number 5325
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I would like to see Gargamel /and/ the smurfs drowning in thier own
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stupidity... (what does stupidity taste like?)
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- Corwyn
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===========
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
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To: DONTHEN
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Subject: StarTrekkies
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 09:48:14
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Message Number 5326
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> ...of course, it's still in a lot of trouble when compared to anything
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> by Orson Scott Card, or even Barbera Hambly.
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Now isn't that a little unfair, comparing any Mortal to Card? Sheesh,
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Barbara Hambly ranks as a gifted-demigod herself, How can mortals
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compete.
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- Corwyn
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===========
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: A/R
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 09:53:19
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Message Number 5327
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I'll pitch a 1.2Meg drive your way after the summer, If I can remember
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to P'req it (Parent Request) Leaves you with a summer of IBM
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manufactured Hardware hell! (Sheesh, at least I'm smart enough not to
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use any of their disk drives.)
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- Corwyn
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===========
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From: KEN OBER
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To: BEATLE
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Subject: ST & ST:TNG
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 13:01:46
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Message Number 5330
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Star Wars is also in the same universe......So is Dr. Who....They
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have no plot relation, and they don't refer to one another...
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===========
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
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To: KEN OBER
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Subject: ST & ST:TNG
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 13:50:20
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Message Number 5331
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Dr. Who is not in the same 'universe' the definitions of time, space,
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etc are different in Dr Who, and Star Wars gives no indication of being
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in the same Universe, except for the placement as "A long, long time,
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ago, in a Galaxy far, far away."
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What Beatle meant by 'universe' was similar to the "Marvel Universe" the
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"Greyhawk Universe" etc. It's not the technical definition, but it's in
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common use.
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- Corwyn
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===========
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From: RUFUS
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To: DONTHEN
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Subject: Gadget
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 15:15:17
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Message Number 5332
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Your weird!
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Ack!
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===========
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From: RUFUS
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To: BEATLE
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Subject: moral
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 15:20:22
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Message Number 5333
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>how Marty's life would be much better since he learned not to let it
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>bother him when someone calls him chicken.
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Oh, so this has nothing to do with ZZ Top promoting galactic peace
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with their new album?
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===========
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From: RUFUS
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Once again...
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 15:33:29
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Message Number 5335
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|No, it's not Deja Vu folks, I just took off the tail ending [he he].
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I sit for a few seconds trying to assimilate the flood of
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information Sam presented me. "Lesse, the golf course owner wasn't
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real happy about the Harrier landing on the eigth, but I don't think he
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was that angry" I mumble to myself. "What?" Sam prompts. "Nothing,
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just mumbling to myself, trying to figure out who's pissed off at me."
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I run through my mental list of recent assignments, crossing out all
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the uneventful ones. Sam waves her hand in front of my eyes and says
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"Hello, anyone in there?" I shake my head, responding with: "Oh, just
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thinking. It must be IBM. They sent a nasty letter to the company
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blaming me for the destruction of the only existing 986 machine, and
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calling for my death. IBM is fairly nasty. I don't see how it was my
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fault. Their guard /was/ the one who fired the RPG at me. And, if I
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remember correctly, the dead cat was the one who traced down the stolen
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merchandise to IBM. See, Cray-Sinclair had insured their prototype
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computer, and IBM stole it, along with the blue prints. So I went in
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to get it, and a /small/ firefight broke out. Like I said, it wasn't
|
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me who blew up the room, and the 986." Sam looks bewildered, and
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starts to ask "What's a 986?" but stops at the 'a,' hoping to avoid
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further confusion. "Got any pop-tarts?" I ask.
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From: TURTLE
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To: BEATLE
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Subject: moral
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Date & Time: 05/29/90 16:32:04
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Message Number 5337
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Marty went hopping all over time just to learn that it shouldn't
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bother him when people call him a chicken??!! Seems like he coulda
|
||
learned THAT in the comfort and convenience of his own home! Ghods,
|
||
what's next? Marty hijacks a space shuttle to Vega to learn how to
|
||
brush his hair?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: Not God...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 16:34:57
|
||
Message Number 5338
|
||
|
||
>Bastard from hell!
|
||
|
||
Bastard from Long Beach Island, actually...
|
||
|
||
>I am nastier than thee...ask my mum!
|
||
|
||
I'm only interested in an unbiased opinion, and I don't think she'll
|
||
give me one.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
Subject: A/R
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 16:39:11
|
||
Message Number 5339
|
||
|
||
Thanx, it'd be appreciated. Of course, I can always try to figure out
|
||
how to hook up an IEEE hard drive to a TRS-80, but I suspect that'd be
|
||
a losing proposition...I'd have to write my own hard disk driver...
|
||
*whine!* (Stomp off into distance, grumbling about IBM microfloppies...)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 16:57:45
|
||
Message Number 5341
|
||
|
||
> they don't refer to one another...
|
||
|
||
That may be true about Star Wars and Star Trek and Dr. Who and Star
|
||
Trek, but to say Star Trek and the Next Generation can't be cross
|
||
referenced like that is stupid. They are almost one and the same. That's
|
||
the way the creators saw it: as an extension of the Trek universe. That
|
||
term universe used as a reference to a body of fictional characters and
|
||
incidents related. Such as the Star Wars universe is not the same as the
|
||
Doctor Who universe.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Movies
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 17:05:29
|
||
Message Number 5342
|
||
|
||
I guess no one is gonna be there...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Poem
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 20:57:21
|
||
Message Number 5343
|
||
|
||
No, the ONJ song probably has higher technical production standards; it
|
||
WAS an Electric Light Orchestra song, and even when Jeff Lynne is
|
||
recording white noise, he seems to do it in three-part harmony on
|
||
48-track digital equipment. "Rock and Roll is King" is one of the most
|
||
cheerfully useless songs I can remember, but it was produced damn well.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
Subject: StarTrekkies
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 21:00:50
|
||
Message Number 5344
|
||
|
||
I've only read three books by Barbara Hambly (the "Time of the Dark"
|
||
series) and they didn't impress me THAT much. They were fairly good,
|
||
but the Dark was completely unmotivated -- nebulous evil-for-evil's-sake
|
||
as an antagonist generally bothers me (Card & Tolkien can get away with
|
||
it, but they're also writing in a much more mythically-conscious way
|
||
than Hambly was), and I couldn't shake the impression that the main
|
||
character was a shadow of Hambly herself; wish-fulfillment stories, even
|
||
when well-done, make me twitch just a little. I've also grown to be
|
||
suspicious of books with the general plot skeleton of person-from-this
|
||
world-goes-into-a-high-fantasy-world-and-discovers-his/her-hidden-powers
|
||
in-a-battle-against-ultimate-evil stories; I've seen it done really well
|
||
exactly twice, once in Marion Zimmer Bradley's "House Between the
|
||
Worlds" and once in Stephen Donaldson's "Mordant's Need"--the latter of
|
||
which wasn't, actually, against ultimate evil. I also think he did it
|
||
really well in "Thomas Covenant", but I seem to be among the minority on
|
||
this BBS in believing the series' good points outweigh its problems.
|
||
Most of those problems went away in "Mordant's Need", although it wasn't
|
||
as grandly theologically metaphysically mythical as "Covenant" was (some
|
||
might say that's a change for the better, of course).
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 21:08:17
|
||
Message Number 5345
|
||
|
||
> Star Wars is also in the same universe...So is Dr. Who...They have
|
||
> no plot relation and they don't refer to one another...
|
||
|
||
That's because they are not in the same universe when you are speaking
|
||
in a creative sense instead of an obstinately literal one. Technically,
|
||
none of them are in ANY universe because they're fictional. Remember?
|
||
Both "Star Trek" shows are in the same universe because they're created
|
||
by the same writer(s), share the same history, and one is supposed to
|
||
take place a few generations after the other one. Look at it this way:
|
||
Spider-Man's story is set on modern-day earth. So is the CBS sitcom
|
||
"Murphy Brown." But that alone doesn't mean they're going to be
|
||
connected in any way, shape or form; for practical purposes, they are
|
||
in different universes. Likewise, just because "Star Wars", both "Star
|
||
Trek" series, "Battlestar Galactica" and Ken Mitchroney's "Space Ark"
|
||
funny animal comic all take place in space doesn't make them in the
|
||
same universe.
|
||
As for the Star Treks, /obviously/ they have a plot relation. They
|
||
are in the same Federation, the same "universe" in any sense of the
|
||
word. Do you think "Alien" and "Aliens" had no relation and didn't
|
||
refer to one another? They are SEQUELS. Likewise, "Star Trek" and
|
||
"The Next Generation" are SEQUELS to one another, in much the same way
|
||
"Battlestar Galactica" and the decrepit "Galactica 1980" were sequels.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Gadget
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 21:15:01
|
||
Message Number 5346
|
||
|
||
> Your weird!
|
||
> Ack!
|
||
|
||
Yes, but do you want to sleep with Gadget?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: Mythagoras
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 21:16:50
|
||
Message Number 5347
|
||
|
||
The deadline for submissions for issue #2 of MYTHAGORAS is June 14.
|
||
We are looking, especially, for artwork and any certain stories that
|
||
involve fox morphs that female BBS users talked to Mythagoras' own fox
|
||
morph, Bartholomew, about.
|
||
|
||
Stuff to look for in issue #2 that we already have: an 8-page comic
|
||
story, "Deception," by Chuck Melville; the beginning of a hard sf
|
||
serial by the mysterious mad professor, Lawrence Schoen; a fantasy
|
||
horror short, "Of the Father, Upon the Son," by Kevin Higgins; art by
|
||
Juan Alfonso, Maggie de Alarcon, Eric Blumrich and others. Other
|
||
subjects to-be-written or submitted & under consideration include a
|
||
response to Franklin Veaux's "Object-Oriented Environmentalism" from
|
||
issue #1, an article about environmentalism and animal rights as
|
||
viewed through science fiction and comics by, er, Watts Martin, and a
|
||
certain story involving fox morphs that a female BBS user talked to
|
||
Mythagoras' own fox morph, Bartholomew, about.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Arnie
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 21:30:44
|
||
Message Number 5348
|
||
|
||
Ok. Check your e-mail. -R-
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Not God...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 21:38:06
|
||
Message Number 5349
|
||
|
||
and let's add egotistical, opinionated, anal-retentive, antagonastic,
|
||
and irritating . . .
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: God...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 21:41:38
|
||
Message Number 5350
|
||
|
||
Oh. . . You seem so sweet and inocent all the time aaaH Bulsht!
|
||
|
||
(O \
|
||
\
|
||
/
|
||
(O /
|
||
|
||
-R-
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Gadget
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 21:48:28
|
||
Message Number 5351
|
||
|
||
Or al least have a 2 or three hour round of energetic sex.
|
||
a perverted and loving it Raven
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: RAVEN
|
||
Subject: religion
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 22:07:41
|
||
Message Number 5352
|
||
|
||
Just as a thought - any change (even on a deathbed) /is/ still a
|
||
change.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: validation
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 22:14:58
|
||
Message Number 5353
|
||
|
||
Sheesh did I say that?!!! Sorry - I get really fritzed trying to
|
||
banzai thru here and make sense at the same time. I get the impression
|
||
that Chip thinks I wasd referrin to him when I said no one was inter-
|
||
ested in a philosophical conversation - I gotta clear this up but first
|
||
I gotta catch up! I use the NIV which has been critically called a
|
||
"design by committe Bible, a Ryrie and the KJ versions with the
|
||
Thompson chain reference and the Schofield study systems. Alas , I
|
||
consider myself truant the last couple of years in my studies. As
|
||
a small sideline - continued reading and meditation on the Bible can
|
||
be interesting in it's own right (ie non-religious). As an example
|
||
the book of Job isn't really understood to be either factual (there
|
||
is evidence that says it is) or allegorical (plenty to belive here!).
|
||
A small interesting study is on the background of Jobs three "friends".
|
||
Their ancestry says that they probably had no love for any of Yahweh's
|
||
"chosen". So what is their true relationship and how does this affect
|
||
the general "plot"? Stuff like this interests me when I have the time
|
||
to dig around. I think a lot of people find the Bible a "hard" book.
|
||
I was really turned on to it in a new light when I took it as an
|
||
advanced Literature course (graduate level) in college.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: SAJW & You
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 22:25:37
|
||
Message Number 5354
|
||
|
||
Nahhh - the mormons teach that God lives on a planet named Kolab.
|
||
(this is serious BTW). Theye even have a small town named this in Utah
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: they're back!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 22:28:01
|
||
Message Number 5355
|
||
|
||
Lessee - that would be a religion known as synopticism! Wasn't that
|
||
banned? Haven't I seen this script on Bullwinkle (fractured fairy
|
||
tales?)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: validation
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 22:29:52
|
||
Message Number 5356
|
||
|
||
Do you have the /slightest/ idea of that which you mumble? The Mormons
|
||
are considered a cult by "mainstream" Christian groups. They have been
|
||
beating their drums for the past 150 years or so and isn't anything
|
||
new. I have no idea of where you gleaned the fact they kill their
|
||
relatives to "save" them unless you refer to their practise of research
|
||
into their family tree and baptism by proxie for those that did not
|
||
hear their beliefs here on earth.
|
||
Also: what 10 rules do you refer - the ten commandments? The entire
|
||
book of Leviticus consists of Jewish law - the 10 commandments were
|
||
the "catchy" phrases. The entire Christian belief as taught by Christ
|
||
was stated as the Golden Rule - "Love thy neighbor as you love yourself"
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Ynty...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 22:36:31
|
||
Message Number 5357
|
||
|
||
Sheesh - it had nothing of ther ring of "commandment" tyo it at all.
|
||
It was merely a clever way to make the Pharisee's look like the dweebs
|
||
that they were and to emphasize the spiritual nature of God. The
|
||
Pharisee's (and the Jewish culture in general) had this belief that
|
||
God's pleasure with you was directly reflected in wealth. This is
|
||
why Job's neigbors and such really figured he had done something
|
||
really terrible to be in the shape he was in (he lost it all). Jesus
|
||
was merely pointing out to the Pharisee's that Taxes had nothing to do
|
||
with the kingdom of God. Essentially the thrust was to trick Jesus into
|
||
either being a traitor (pay taxes like a good roman citizen) or a
|
||
rebel (refuse to pay tribute!). Hope this made sense,,,
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Real Pagans
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 22:43:04
|
||
Message Number 5358
|
||
|
||
I find it interesting that a hedonist is included in the definition
|
||
of Pagan - does this mean I can't have fun ? <snif> Is there such
|
||
an anomoly as a Pagan Christian Hedonist?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: hack/cough
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 22:45:27
|
||
Message Number 5359
|
||
|
||
Jeez and I just felt silly when I ported a routine that calculkated the
|
||
values for a Chebychev thrid order filter and plotted the results on
|
||
a log-log graph to my Sinclair ZX-80!!! I admit that I used to know
|
||
most of the MACRO that comes with the 8700 and I used to code in raw
|
||
binary on the Apples.... I just called it overzealous.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: Xnty...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 22:55:33
|
||
Message Number 5360
|
||
|
||
Like Tacos? What's your pleasure Madam?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: Bungee!
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 22:58:51
|
||
Message Number 5361
|
||
|
||
Kinda reminds me of the quarter I watched a guy learning Curses on UNIX
|
||
(yes to all of the unspoken questions). Net sum result as described by
|
||
my favorite prof:
|
||
"You spent all f*****g quarter learning how to make a twirly go around
|
||
the screen?"
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: RAVEN
|
||
Subject: ect.
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 23:02:21
|
||
Message Number 5362
|
||
|
||
<hehehehe> I just got my new "Pyramid Books and New-Age Collection"
|
||
catalog in the mail... I got a real hoot out of some of the Titles.
|
||
I believe our Feminist Wiccan friend's mentor is represented within.
|
||
I'd have to go back and look.... I love seeing books that will tell
|
||
me all about the Atlanteans sexual preferences and education system
|
||
<true story 3 volumes for $11.95 a pop>. I have observed the same tho.
|
||
they just look at you - I haven't figured out if Ramtha is trying to get
|
||
thru and kickc my butt or they are thinking "crystals can cure that..."
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: telix
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 23:08:26
|
||
Message Number 5363
|
||
|
||
*I've* never had a problem (aside from when the board decided to
|
||
doublespace everything.)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: God...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 23:12:22
|
||
Message Number 5364
|
||
|
||
Wow -= I did that from morning to afternoon nothing but VAX guts strewn
|
||
all over the place - what made it really bad was studying UNIX in 2
|
||
classes and VMS in the others. Since he saw the same smiling faces in
|
||
most of the classes he was *most* liberal about carrying over info from
|
||
one to the other - worst quarter I ever had with pipes getting mixed
|
||
up with messages and mailboxes and shared resources with IPC's
|
||
and INODE's. EEeeeeeeeeyaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: generous
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 23:16:50
|
||
Message Number 5365
|
||
|
||
Ronnie made references to BAC . Funny how they consulted a "New Age"
|
||
medium isn't it?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: validation
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 23:19:22
|
||
Message Number 5366
|
||
|
||
Wow - I wish my memory was that good. We had to go thru all that in
|
||
Philosophy (stupid statement !!! Where else would you bump into
|
||
Parmenides?!!!) I really enjoyed some of the theories and ideas
|
||
put forth. Isn't Parmenides the one that asserted that if you
|
||
put your foot intop a stream, removed it and put it back - that it
|
||
was not the same stream as it was before?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: Doghouse
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 23:22:51
|
||
Message Number 5367
|
||
|
||
Mmmmm me too! I gotta be careful tho - since I quit smoking last
|
||
Thanksgiving It's been far too easy to put on Lbs!!! I'm trying to
|
||
get rid of a few right now - funny thing... I eat less, I exercise more
|
||
and I eat better (nutritious) food and I still put it on!!! I had a guy
|
||
explain that the body is trying to correct a skewed acidity (nicotine -
|
||
like most respectable poisons is an alkaloid) and this brings it about.
|
||
Hell I'm about ready to start again! Anyway - so how will I know you?
|
||
Should I jump up and shout "Ranea forever!"? Like I said - just about
|
||
every week I'm there... maybe we can drag Lady along for a real
|
||
get together - MAYBE all of the Ranea gang should invade!!!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: validation
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 23:34:04
|
||
Message Number 5368
|
||
|
||
C'mon, just because there is a cause and effect proposed don't mean that
|
||
it is inherently mercinary - that may well be the way things are...
|
||
Aniother pairt of glasses? The way that Christainity is stated preclude
|
||
any attempts at labelling it another attempt at understanding some
|
||
"Great Truth" that is bigger than any religion. It's either true
|
||
or it ain't. There can be questions as to the mechanism but the
|
||
underlying premise is rock-hard.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: New Subject:
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 23:38:18
|
||
Message Number 5369
|
||
|
||
My brain needs some Ti-d-bowl right now - let me get back to ya...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: FUCK YOU
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 23:41:02
|
||
Message Number 5370
|
||
|
||
Ever heard the quote on vulgarity being the last refuge of the
|
||
incompetent? Use it creatively and it becomes an aid - you simply
|
||
resort to it as an insult. Besides? Why would anyone want to wish
|
||
me such a nice thing when I've apparently been bad?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: JW & You
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 23:44:45
|
||
Message Number 5371
|
||
|
||
Oh boy! Did you get like - you know /real descriptive/???
|
||
I know the type - I have on occasion met the odd JW that was so polite
|
||
and accepting of my "no thanks" that I felt prompted to invite them in
|
||
and talk about something else for a change. It's all in the persona.
|
||
Some people are born assholes and use religion as a shotgun to
|
||
spread that which was given to them at birth...
|
||
Your right - it /is/ an imperfecT world....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: IBMs
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 23:47:42
|
||
Message Number 5372
|
||
|
||
Oooh OOohhh - Byte actually gave the court ammo when they came up
|
||
with a quote from the design team that the interface didn't even
|
||
have icons and such until they saw the Xerox interface and copied it/..
|
||
Talk about egg in the face!!!!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Simple Subject
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 23:49:15
|
||
Message Number 5373
|
||
|
||
'Tis true - ya know if I were *really* motivated I'd have to start
|
||
with the ol' "well let's hear *your* proof of the nonexistence of
|
||
God" that can get pretty funny. But - I notice some really veiled
|
||
and outright hostilities.... Maybe the new moon...Arruuuuuu! Sorry
|
||
I can't seem to get the energy up - I gotta get to a quack - I mean
|
||
MD. (whadda synonym)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: New Job?
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 23:53:45
|
||
Message Number 5374
|
||
|
||
wow a premier synopticizer and critic to boot! No kidding, I wish
|
||
I'd have said that...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: hostility
|
||
Date & Time: 05/29/90 23:56:08
|
||
Message Number 5375
|
||
|
||
<hehehe > How'd I know you were gonna say that???
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Movies
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 02:10:01
|
||
Message Number 5376
|
||
|
||
Me if I can get transp0rt.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: C.C.A.
|
||
Subject: Question
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 02:14:11
|
||
Message Number 5377
|
||
|
||
I wasn't trying t0 amuse y0u
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: Poem
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 02:16:34
|
||
Message Number 5378
|
||
|
||
Y0u're a gifted eng. t00? I try n0t t0 sh0w it, th0ugh.
|
||
|
||
BTW when's the 1ast time y0u were s1apped?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: skirts
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 02:18:39
|
||
Message Number 5379
|
||
|
||
I..10ve the dead, I...10ve the dead, yeah I... 10ve the dead, s much!
|
||
I'm in a n0sta1gic A1ice C00per m00d.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Sma11 Creatures
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 02:22:06
|
||
Message Number 5380
|
||
|
||
I 1ike the gn0mes better than b0th, especia11y with T0m B0s1ey's
|
||
v0ice as David the Gn0me.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: StarTrekkies
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 02:31:27
|
||
Message Number 5381
|
||
|
||
I was using the 7ft 0rc fr0m Ang1e games
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Not God...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 02:34:50
|
||
Message Number 5382
|
||
|
||
frustrated, and n0isy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: God...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 02:38:05
|
||
Message Number 5383
|
||
|
||
And that's what I 1ikeab0ut y0u m0st (y0u kn0w why).
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Not God...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 02:43:24
|
||
Message Number 5384
|
||
|
||
Here's my unbiased 0pini0n.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Mythagoras
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 02:49:55
|
||
Message Number 5385
|
||
|
||
I'm a1m0st finished with sh0rt st0ries, w0u1d y0u 1ike them?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Hmm.
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 03:03:25
|
||
Message Number 5387
|
||
|
||
Very g00d. I'm impressed. Th0ugh I didn't expect a ret0rt (vi01ent)
|
||
fr0m y0u.
|
||
|
||
Y0u've earned my ap010gy.
|
||
I am s0rry. (and Spe11wind d0esn't ap010gize t0 every0ne.)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: neckwear
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 06:30:16
|
||
Message Number 5389
|
||
|
||
blast the bastards into bits of Borg bullsh*t
|
||
I'm glad I didn't really need full brain function to reply, the
|
||
caffiene hasn't kicked in yet - it's got to give me more power, capn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: spidy
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 06:37:11
|
||
Message Number 5390
|
||
|
||
I seem to recall reading that spiderman will be doing a guest spot
|
||
on Murphy Brown - but with a twist ending, in that he goes to bed
|
||
with Murphy, Corkey and MaryJane, but wakes up with Suzanne Pleshete
|
||
in the middle of the US Open.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Question
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 06:59:18
|
||
Message Number 5391
|
||
|
||
>I wasn't trying t0 amuse y0u.
|
||
|
||
Somehow I gathered that much.
|
||
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CRYSTAL
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: DWEEBS and TNG!
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 12:09:42
|
||
Message Number 5392
|
||
|
||
Now I make a great french toast.
|
||
* CRYSTAL *
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: validation
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 13:04:36
|
||
Message Number 5393
|
||
|
||
> The way that Christianity is stated precludes any attempts at labeling
|
||
> it another attempt at understanding some "Great Truth" that is bigger
|
||
> than any religion.
|
||
|
||
This is also true of many (most) theistic religions. Wicca isn't
|
||
supposed to be an attempt to tune into the cosmic consciousness all
|
||
religions are based on, it's just supposed to be The Truth, Q.E.D.
|
||
That doesn't necessarily mean that it's true. And, the common threads
|
||
between it and Christianity don't necessarily mean it's a "shadow" of
|
||
Christianity in some Lewis-ian sense; if it could be construed that way,
|
||
the reverse (Christianity as a Wicca shadow) could also be true.
|
||
I've also never completely bought the "well, Christianity has to be
|
||
true because its claims are so outrageous they have to be" line of
|
||
reasoning. That's a patently hokey argument if you use it to defend,
|
||
say, advertiser claims or any run-of-the-mill crackpot religion. No,
|
||
actually, I've /never/ bought it. It just doesn't hold water; by making
|
||
outrageous it's-this-or-nothing claims, it makes people pay attention to
|
||
it -- just like any other revolutionary social movement. If such claims
|
||
weren't made, it wouldn't be around today. Longevity does imply that
|
||
there's something to it, yet, but it doesn't imply that ALL its tenets
|
||
are true.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: StarNuttin'
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 14:49:54
|
||
Message Number 5394
|
||
|
||
"House Between the Worlds" was a really good--and BIZZARE--book. It
|
||
seemed to have set out to turn a lot of the "person-from-our-world-
|
||
travels-to-another" cliches around, or at least skew them somewhat...
|
||
I /love/ the scene where the main character uses a bootleg drug to
|
||
try to transport himself to the alternate world, and ends up getting
|
||
sidetracked talking about good and evil with a brick wall...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Gadget
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 14:55:09
|
||
Message Number 5395
|
||
|
||
>Yes, but do youi want to sleep with Gadget?
|
||
|
||
Is this a trick question?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: RAVEN
|
||
Subject: Not Real
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 14:56:52
|
||
Message Number 5396
|
||
|
||
>and let's add egotistical, opinionated, anal-retentive, antagonistic,
|
||
>and irritating...
|
||
|
||
I am NOT anal-retentive.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: validation
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 15:01:09
|
||
Message Number 5397
|
||
|
||
>The entire Christian belief as taught by Christ was stated as the
|
||
>Golden Rule - "Love thy neighbor as you love yourself."
|
||
|
||
Amend that to read "Love thy neighbor and thy planet as you love
|
||
yourself" and you'd have a more nearly adequate ethical code...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: VAXen as God
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 15:09:02
|
||
Message Number 5398
|
||
|
||
>I did that from morning to afternoon nothing but VAX guts strewn all
|
||
>over the place...
|
||
|
||
And you're COMPLAINING??!! I have to fight, finagle, and fidgit to get
|
||
even minimal access to VAXen these days...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Poem
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 15:14:48
|
||
Message Number 5399
|
||
|
||
>Y0u're a gifted eng. t00? I try n0t t0 sh0w it, th0ugh.
|
||
|
||
We11, n0b0dy wi11 ever accuse y0u 0f being pretenti0us, at least...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Mythagoras
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 17:07:25
|
||
Message Number 5401
|
||
|
||
Bartholomew (Mythagoras' own fox morph, if you didn't know) said the
|
||
deadline was sometime in July. Oh well, that's what you get when you
|
||
talk to a fox while trying to watch "Heavy Metal."
|
||
|
||
...not like I would actually submit anything, but ask Turtle about
|
||
my Fuzzy Bunny poem.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: SAJW & You
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 17:11:12
|
||
Message Number 5402
|
||
|
||
>Nahhh - the mormons teach that God lives on a planet named Kolab.
|
||
|
||
And this planet is in the middle of the universe. And he's waiting for
|
||
a starship.
|
||
|
||
...Bill should stick to Rescue 911.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: CRYSTAL
|
||
Subject: DWEEBS and TNG!
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 17:25:50
|
||
Message Number 5403
|
||
|
||
>Now I make great french toast.
|
||
> * CRYSTAL *
|
||
|
||
O.K., when's breakfast?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Gadget
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 17:42:52
|
||
Message Number 5405
|
||
|
||
> > Yes, but do you want to sleep with Gadget?
|
||
|
||
> Is this a trick question?
|
||
|
||
Depends on how nicely you ask her, I suppose.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Mythagoras
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 17:44:40
|
||
Message Number 5406
|
||
|
||
No, it's June 14. It better damn well be OUT by some time in July.
|
||
Grr!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: StarTrekkies
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 17:59:25
|
||
Message Number 5407
|
||
|
||
I've read her "Dark Tower" "The Silicon Mage" and (hmm can't remember
|
||
the name of the last in the trilogy) but it wasn't as good as her
|
||
'Witches of Wenshar' in my book. She took the theme of a Wizard who
|
||
didn't want to be. I the first trilogy, (The Dark Tower) the evil is
|
||
quite well represented as a greedy guy who get's ahead of himself,
|
||
he's pretty powerful, but not nebulous at all. Like I said, It's hard
|
||
to think of anyone doing better than Card (for me anyway) There are
|
||
books I like, (Like the Myth-Adventures series) and there are books
|
||
which really impress me.. and they don't necessarily coincide.
|
||
Anyway.. Read her series on Sun Wolf, I've got the book club "The
|
||
unschooled wizard" which has the first two books. I'll loan it to you
|
||
sometime.
|
||
|
||
- Corwyn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 21:07:34
|
||
Message Number 5408
|
||
|
||
So, anyone know what's up with C of C?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: accounting
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 21:14:04
|
||
Message Number 5409
|
||
|
||
HELP, I'm being held prisoner by Horngren & Harrisons Accounting Text!
|
||
(class tested for accuracy) I've been trapped in my office with this
|
||
insidious beast for two hours, and I'm not sure if I should debit
|
||
my allowance for uncollectable free time or credit my lack of equity -
|
||
I certainly can't credit interest because I HAVE NONE. I'd hate to
|
||
have a negative adjusting entry to my GPA, but I'd also rather have
|
||
my head waxed by bloodsucking denubian pygmies than continue my
|
||
homework. HEAVY sigh. Well, back to reality.
|
||
A Thrud of no account
|
||
ya know, it seems like being able to hit a 250 yard tee shot would
|
||
be sufficent to make it in the business world (along with a good
|
||
spell-checker)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 21:42:03
|
||
Message Number 5410
|
||
|
||
> To say Star Trek and the Next Generation can't be cross referenced
|
||
> like that is stupid....
|
||
|
||
But true. Name similarities besides the fact that the ship's name is
|
||
the same, the federation is similar, and they have the same, old,
|
||
dumb enemies?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 22:48:39
|
||
Message Number 5411
|
||
|
||
>Name similarities...
|
||
|
||
The new series has reffered to old series a # of times (the 2nd
|
||
episode in the first season pops to mind. Dr. Crusher refers back to
|
||
the medical logs of the first Enterprise).
|
||
Not to mention McCoy was on the new series, as was Sarek.
|
||
I'm sure there are many more examples
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 05/30/90 23:22:28
|
||
Message Number 5412
|
||
|
||
Courts of Chaos moved. Turtle tells me that when he calls one of the
|
||
three new numbers Random had listed, he got diddly, but I haven't tried
|
||
it myself. Hopefully we'll all hear from Random via cheesy BBS ads in
|
||
the next few days with the new numbers and such.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CRYSTAL
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: toast up
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 01:20:30
|
||
Message Number 5413
|
||
|
||
>O.K., when's breakfest?
|
||
When ever you want it.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: watch it again
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 02:36:52
|
||
Message Number 5414
|
||
|
||
Sarek wouldn't necessarily have mentioned another son in the quoted
|
||
phrase if he really hated his guts. Sarek was just listing the people
|
||
he loved. Maybe he was just in logic with Sybok.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: validation
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 02:41:04
|
||
Message Number 5415
|
||
|
||
> a design by committee Bible
|
||
|
||
What version of the Bible is NOT designed by committee. It certainly
|
||
was written by committee; look at the number of authors. I'm kicking
|
||
myself as I delete part of this message ... just now realized what
|
||
KJ stood for. (I have friend who goes by the name of K.J. and I was
|
||
sure she hadn't written any inspired scripture.)
|
||
Anyway, shoot the critics who complain, a Bible that wasn't
|
||
assembled and translated by committee is suspect.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: MUSIC-LOVERS EVERYWH
|
||
Subject: encore! encore!
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 03:04:33
|
||
Message Number 5417
|
||
|
||
Angel knew she was somewhat rusty on keyboard, but she wasn't use
|
||
to people, or rather unicorns, walking out in the middle of the
|
||
performance. She hoped it wasn't something she played. Perhaps the
|
||
next tune would be more appealing the crowd. "And now for my
|
||
next selection..." Angel thought she heard a groan from the corner
|
||
of the bar. Gamely ignoring the comments from the rabble, she
|
||
continued, "I'd like to sing a love song. A charming little tune
|
||
untitled 'Nonsense Written to the Boy I Thought I Loved."
|
||
|
||
If you don't want me,
|
||
Why did you tell me
|
||
That you would hold me,
|
||
That you would love me?
|
||
|
||
Whispering softly
|
||
Whispering to me.
|
||
Whispering love
|
||
You never did feel.
|
||
|
||
Hysterical tears I
|
||
Cried in the night
|
||
Have all passed away --
|
||
The pain's gone away.
|
||
|
||
Now you don't move me.
|
||
Now you can't soothe me.
|
||
Did not want me then,
|
||
Don't come to me now!
|
||
Just drop dead, beloved,
|
||
I'm free of you now.
|
||
|
||
Angel wondered when Donthen had started serving snacks, as an
|
||
olive pit hit her in the back of the head. "Critics! Aw, hell,
|
||
Xon get me a scotch. By the way, whatever 'appened -- Happened! to
|
||
that charming fox that used to frequent this establishment?"
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 03:42:50
|
||
Message Number 5418
|
||
|
||
The temp0rary number is 0n Bey0nd Cha0s. Ca11 there f0r a change.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 06:52:42
|
||
Message Number 5419
|
||
|
||
Read Donthen's message on this subject. I can't see your reasoning, so
|
||
I'm not going to start arguing.
|
||
Why don't YOU give me proof that they're NOT in the same universe??
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 06:55:02
|
||
Message Number 5420
|
||
|
||
GTE messed up. The new lines will be up later. Until then try
|
||
371-0009...
|
||
KNow what's scary? I had to go on Beyond Chaos to learn that. The only
|
||
seemingly inteligent people on there are Rocky and Snakebyte.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: .
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 11:26:19
|
||
Message Number 5421
|
||
|
||
[From Xonzoff]
|
||
I get Angel her drink, picking up the miscreant olive pit and
|
||
tossing it in the trash. I don't remember serving any drinks with
|
||
olives today and the only garnishes you get with sandwiches are pickles.
|
||
Hmm.
|
||
"Don't know where Wezip is," I say when I brink the drink back.
|
||
"He was here a minute ago." I start to walk back to the bar, then pause
|
||
for a second. "Don't take Donthen too personally. Strange people keep
|
||
wandering into the bar and committing felonies; so far today he's been
|
||
questioned by yet another Guard, had somebody carrying an illegal weapon
|
||
wander in here and claim we're all illusory, and gotten the wind knocked
|
||
out of him. He really doesn't have anything against you, or pianos.
|
||
Hopefully he'll have calmed down in an hour or two." Although I don't
|
||
think he can spell 'apology,' I add silently.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 13:42:04
|
||
Message Number 5423
|
||
|
||
Y0! Y0u f0rg0t me!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Mythagoras
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 15:06:16
|
||
Message Number 5426
|
||
|
||
Actually, DON'T ask Turtle about the Fuzzy Bunny poem. He'd really
|
||
rather not think about it...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: validation
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 15:12:24
|
||
Message Number 5427
|
||
|
||
The KJ Bible itself is something of a problematic beast...it was
|
||
TRANSLATED by committee, and one that frequently took an ad-hoc
|
||
hit-or-miss approach to translation. It also doesn't help that the
|
||
KJV is in several places a third generation translation--the translators
|
||
frequently didn't have access to the Hebrew texts, and had to translate
|
||
from the Latin Vulgate bible and the Greek scriptures. (The Vulgate
|
||
itself was rife with errors, and some of 'em managed to creep into the
|
||
KJV; for example, the name of the Christian devil is not "Lucifer."
|
||
The word "Lucifer" appears only in Job and the passage in which it
|
||
appears is a study in translation error.) It also doesn't help that in a
|
||
few places the translators /deliberately/ garphled the text to avoid
|
||
offending King James...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: YNGLING
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Whorf
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 15:58:04
|
||
Message Number 5428
|
||
|
||
It is true...name ONE time Whorf has been involved in a brawl and hasnt
|
||
gotten his clock cleaned. I honestly can't think of one.
|
||
The Yngling
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: YNGLING
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 16:03:27
|
||
Message Number 5429
|
||
|
||
There isnt a reason NOT to have a cloaking device, for christs sake.
|
||
The have the technology, they have the know-how, they have an erector
|
||
set.....This "science vessel" and "exploration ship" explaination is
|
||
not gonna cut it. I'm sorry, but there is no /reasonable/ explaination
|
||
for the Enterprise not to have cloaking ability.
|
||
The Yngli...(look I cloaked the last
|
||
part of my name)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: YNGLING
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Whorf
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 16:13:00
|
||
Message Number 5430
|
||
|
||
Whorf couldnt pop a pimple on my little sisters ass. He';s been in
|
||
more fights than anyone else on the bridge crew (who said anything
|
||
about /away/ missions - he gets his ass kicked on his own freaking
|
||
ship) and has lost them ALL.
|
||
The Yngling
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 17:27:07
|
||
Message Number 5431
|
||
|
||
I've gotten a person, a ringing, and a "do do Doo, the number you have
|
||
reached..etc.."
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: CRYSTAL
|
||
Subject: toast up
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 17:27:45
|
||
Message Number 5432
|
||
|
||
> When ever you want it.
|
||
|
||
Gee, your very accomodating. Right now, I'm stuffed. I just ate two
|
||
porkchops, some frosting, then some cake. I tried getting the frosting
|
||
on the cake, but it didn't work. I figured that my stomach and
|
||
intestines wouldn't know the diff. But I digress.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 17:31:30
|
||
Message Number 5433
|
||
|
||
>GTE messed up.
|
||
|
||
No. They never mess up. Except when the installed a dead line for my
|
||
new number. Or the time they somehow connected my line with that
|
||
of a retirement home.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Mythagoras
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 17:33:11
|
||
Message Number 5434
|
||
|
||
>Actually, DON'T ask Turtle about the Fuzzy Bunny poem. He'd really
|
||
>rather not think about it...
|
||
|
||
Hurumph! There was an impromptue dramatic reading of it a few weeks
|
||
back in Journalism class. Everyone there seemed to like it. BTW, I
|
||
found "We Can Remember It for You Wholesale," the story you said was
|
||
hard to find. That library thing has several books, at least two or
|
||
three dozen.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: A Poem...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 17:37:55
|
||
Message Number 5435
|
||
|
||
And now, a dramatic typing of "The Fuzzy Bunny," the authors first
|
||
published poem.
|
||
Ahem...
|
||
There was a little bunny.
|
||
He lived by a nuclear reactor.
|
||
And he would grow and grow
|
||
and glow and glow.
|
||
Until he was a big bunny
|
||
and he ate Mr. Funny.
|
||
Soon, the townspeople asked how
|
||
Mr. Funny and a cow
|
||
had died.
|
||
Until, one night, he was eyed.
|
||
The rumor was spread
|
||
why so many were dead.
|
||
Most folks got read to run,
|
||
but Mr. Jones got his gun.
|
||
Mr. Jones saw the bunny and blew off his head.
|
||
And finally, the bunny was dead.
|
||
|
||
Thank you very much, and good day!
|
||
<exits stage right at high speed, hoping to avoid flying produce>
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ACAPULCO
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Incidentally,
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 18:38:23
|
||
Message Number 5438
|
||
|
||
Yes, I just need to take the time to download your edited version.
|
||
|
||
Time. A commodity I'm finding less and less available. Did I tell you
|
||
InfoWorld accepted me for contract database review work? Things are
|
||
starting to look up, finally.
|
||
|
||
{Acapulco}
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ACAPULCO
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Real solutions
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 18:44:01
|
||
Message Number 5439
|
||
|
||
Looks like before to me... now, which verse says man was created after?
|
||
|
||
{Acapulco}
|
||
|
||
P.S.: Do you recall seeing or hearing ANYTHING REMOTELY SIMILAR to
|
||
flying pigs in Genesis? I bumped into such a discussion on PLINK, but
|
||
failed to note the source verses.
|
||
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: religion
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 19:59:02
|
||
Message Number 5441
|
||
|
||
A change on the deathbed, however, is of little signifance as it only
|
||
applies to one's last few hours, and has no bearing on how one has lived
|
||
one's life. Deathbed conversion is the ultimate form of hypocracy, as
|
||
one is denying everything one has held true, and claiming that this will
|
||
make it all better now.
|
||
|
||
I do not believe that a life-long sadist could absolve himself by merely
|
||
'converting' to a religion for the last few hours of their life.
|
||
|
||
a Hipocracy is the only mortal sin Raven
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: New Subject:
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 20:30:36
|
||
Message Number 5442
|
||
|
||
>Does an individual...go to Hell for commiting the...sinof ignorance?
|
||
The answer to that is NO!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 22:21:37
|
||
Message Number 5443
|
||
|
||
The temporary # is 813-371-0009.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 22:24:31
|
||
Message Number 5444
|
||
|
||
No , Spe11wind, I talked to Beatle earlier, He didn' forget you.
|
||
|
||
He INTENTIONALLY left you off the "Intelligent Users List",and I have
|
||
to admit, I certain1y can onderstand where he w0u1d get reas0n too...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: validation
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 22:30:21
|
||
Message Number 5445
|
||
|
||
Lucifer is also used in Isaiah, I believe.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: A Poem...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 22:35:45
|
||
Message Number 5446
|
||
|
||
Not fast enough...SPLAT.......SPLAT .........WHUMP!(I tried to keep
|
||
them from throwing Watermelons, mbut I couldn't stop them).
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: RAVEN
|
||
Subject: religion
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 22:40:04
|
||
Message Number 5447
|
||
|
||
If the conversion is true, it matters not when it takes place, so long
|
||
as itis before the phisical death of the person.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
To: C.C.A.
|
||
Subject: religion
|
||
Date & Time: 05/31/90 23:43:32
|
||
Message Number 5448
|
||
|
||
Why the (arbitrary) point of physical death?? Seems if we /do/ have an
|
||
afterlife.. why don't they allow conversions five minutes after death..
|
||
some poeple don't get much warning, you know.
|
||
|
||
- Corwyn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
Subject: afterlife
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 01:30:58
|
||
Message Number 5451
|
||
|
||
I think we are given a warnin after death, but before whatever comes
|
||
next. My mother was clinicaly dead when she was having my sister.
|
||
She relates the story of seeing herself from above, very peacefully.
|
||
But she had a great longing to be back with her daughter. So she
|
||
went away from this light that she had seen, and back into her own
|
||
body. I believe her experience to be true. She was dead for a short
|
||
time. Now you can choose to believe what you want. But I think it
|
||
was a choice she had to make. So perhaps we can't change our religious
|
||
views before death, but maybe we can postpone death for awhile.
|
||
(There is an interesting article in June '90 "Discover" on the
|
||
>the search for eternal youth< very plossible. Anyway, since this
|
||
isn't really controversial stuff, I leave the rest to the "GLOBE"...
|
||
|
||
By for now,
|
||
Tree
|
||
P.S. my sister is three years older than me. My mother made a good
|
||
desision, otherwise I might have been born an EAR MITE, or something
|
||
equally noxiouse.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: C.C.A.
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 01:48:21
|
||
Message Number 5452
|
||
|
||
We11 Mr. CCA, I must be pretty stupid t0 n0t make Mr. Beat1e's
|
||
Int. 1ist, th0ugh my IQ was tested at 180.....
|
||
|
||
-Pr0b1em- CCA
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: C.C.A
|
||
Subject: Y0u
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 01:53:12
|
||
Message Number 5453
|
||
|
||
What's CCA stand f0r, Cr0tchedy Christian Assh01e?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 02:29:20
|
||
Message Number 5454
|
||
|
||
I was on Courts of Chaos earlier today -- 371-0009, just like whoever
|
||
said that, er, said. It dropped carrier on me. I always thought that
|
||
Random just had a flakey phone line; now I'm convinced he has a flakey
|
||
modem.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: ACAPULCO
|
||
Subject: Incidentally,
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 02:31:25
|
||
Message Number 5455
|
||
|
||
Well, that's good (about Infoworld, that is). I'm still looking for
|
||
some sort of permanent employment I like enough to keep permanent (the
|
||
only attempts so far have been one I didn't like enough to complete the
|
||
training on, and another that kept me two days before deciding they
|
||
wanted someone with AutoCAD experience -- the others have all been
|
||
temporary, either through Kelly Services or just running into them on my
|
||
own). Just how does one become an independent computer consultant,
|
||
anyway?...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: PSYCHE
|
||
To: C.C.A.
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 04:18:49
|
||
Message Number 5456
|
||
|
||
Supposed permanent number is 371-7022.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 15:03:11
|
||
Message Number 5457
|
||
|
||
N0W the NEW 1ine is up! (P0st in the Tavern)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 16:09:15
|
||
Message Number 5458
|
||
|
||
>...my IQ was tested at 180.......
|
||
|
||
So was mine, in first grade.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Y0u
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 16:11:49
|
||
Message Number 5459
|
||
|
||
Actually, it came off of the cover of ca Reader's Digest. It stands for
|
||
C>astro, C>ocaine, and the A>-bomb.
|
||
(All of which I think stink.)
|
||
|
||
As to your 0's and 1's, I don't read binary.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: PSYCHE
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 16:16:46
|
||
Message Number 5460
|
||
|
||
There will be 4 lines.
|
||
only line no.2 will support anyone on 300bps. That number will
|
||
(hopefully) be 371-7231.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: Whorf
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 18:11:23
|
||
Message Number 5464
|
||
|
||
Okay...there was an episode whose name I don't know which involved a
|
||
bunch of renegade Klingons attempting to overrun the Enterprise...Whorf
|
||
displayed admirable fighting skills there...
|
||
|
||
Of course, it /still/ doesn't really matter all that much; Kirk may have
|
||
been the best barroom brawler in the galaxy, but he was still a lous
|
||
(oops, LOUSY) starship captain. His ship was taken over, overrun,
|
||
diverted, and wrested away from him by a bunch of hippies so often
|
||
it's a miracle he wasn't court-martialed. You'd think he would have
|
||
learned not to let everyone who beams aboard his ship have access to
|
||
the auxiliary bridge...and the manual "How To Take Over the Enterprise
|
||
Without the Lech and the Pointy-Eared Fellow On the Bridge Catching On"
|
||
(in its fourth printing by the time the third season drew to a close).
|
||
--A Star Trek Turtle
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 18:18:17
|
||
Message Number 5465
|
||
|
||
Yes, the Enterprise should have a cloaking device, for what it's worth.
|
||
Cloaking technology doesn't really seem to be all that far advanced
|
||
in the 23rd century (like I should talk...we got the Stealth bomber
|
||
that can be picked up by a ground radar installation twelve miles
|
||
away...); how often does it really seem to matter that the various
|
||
nasties are cloaked? "Captain, the Romulan ship has cloaked, but I think
|
||
I can compensate by patching the sensor system into this Ginsu
|
||
combination alpha-wave integrator and toaster oven..." Still, it'd
|
||
probably be helpful against some of the Federation's dumber opponents,
|
||
like, say, the Ferengi and Ken Ober...
|
||
--A Turtle
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Philip K. Dick
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 18:24:29
|
||
Message Number 5466
|
||
|
||
>That library thing has several books...
|
||
|
||
Yes, but does it have movies, too? I won't go there if it doesn't
|
||
have movies. And MTV. I want my MTV.
|
||
|
||
BTW: A whole bunch of Philip K. Dick's books are back in the bookstores
|
||
again, always something that's nice to see...still can't find "A Scanner
|
||
Darkly," though.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: C.C.A.
|
||
Subject: validation
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 18:28:37
|
||
Message Number 5467
|
||
|
||
>Lucifer is also used in Isaiah, I believe.
|
||
|
||
Not in the King James Version...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: afterlife
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 18:30:13
|
||
Message Number 5468
|
||
|
||
>...but maybe we can postpone death for a while.
|
||
|
||
I don't think that's an option for people who get hit by trains and
|
||
die in similarly spectacular ways...
|
||
...isn't it /neat/ what your brain
|
||
can do when it's deprived of stimulation??
|
||
--A still-skeptical Turtle
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE DOCTOR
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 20:04:11
|
||
Message Number 5469
|
||
|
||
No big thing, and it adds little to this discussion, but there are
|
||
several organisims more advanced than planaria which are asexual. There
|
||
are a number of amphibians and reptiles which are totally parthinogenic.
|
||
Every single member of the species is a female, and the exact genetic
|
||
copy of each other (the posibility of mutation exists though). This is
|
||
true of several geckos (lizards) and some newts. I don't know how they
|
||
feel about violence but they are carnivores even if they don't vote.
|
||
.....in the for what it's worth dept. (and my PhD is in Anthropology)
|
||
the mother goddess (Earth mother? Diana?) pre dates the Horned God, and
|
||
gatherers predate hunter/gatherers. (finder/collecters came before
|
||
seekers).
|
||
.
|
||
.
|
||
. rwb......carion before beef on the hoof.....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE DOCTOR
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 20:16:18
|
||
Message Number 5470
|
||
|
||
I think blacks have a right to be racists too, but whoever engages in
|
||
those activities shouldn't raise their hackles if they are called what
|
||
they are....and who was it that said that color was a race?...somewhere
|
||
in this message train someone said something like that. Blacks can have
|
||
racist attitudes towards other blacks just as easially as whites can be
|
||
racist towards other whites, right?
|
||
.
|
||
.
|
||
. rwb....I mean damn, it's a free country.....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THE DOCTOR
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: FemTalk (tm)
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 20:21:12
|
||
Message Number 5471
|
||
|
||
Everybody has the right to be whatever they want wheather it's biggoted
|
||
or chauvanistic or whatever. It's the individuals right. No one has the
|
||
right to act on those feelings if it is going to interfear with someone
|
||
else however. Being something, and doing something are seperate concepts
|
||
We have the right to hate each other, we just can't act on it without
|
||
each others consent (same with love obviously)
|
||
.
|
||
.
|
||
. rwb.....my boundry starts and stops with me
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Not God...
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 20:46:17
|
||
Message Number 5472
|
||
|
||
This is true...this is true! :)
|
||
-The Lady
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: RAVEN
|
||
Subject: God...
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 20:46:55
|
||
Message Number 5473
|
||
|
||
Thanks, love! What was that all about?
|
||
-The Lady
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Xnty...
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 20:47:29
|
||
Message Number 5474
|
||
|
||
Tacos are good.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Poem
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 20:48:39
|
||
Message Number 5475
|
||
|
||
Thanks a helluva lot! Ga-ahead, slap me. I love it.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: God...
|
||
Date & Time: 06/01/90 20:49:22
|
||
Message Number 5476
|
||
|
||
I know.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: C.C.A.
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 00:48:52
|
||
Message Number 5477
|
||
|
||
3 1ines. 371-0009 his r00m mate's v0ice #
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: Poem
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 00:54:15
|
||
Message Number 5478
|
||
|
||
0n1y if y0u s1ap me back.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 01:06:35
|
||
Message Number 5479
|
||
|
||
Alright, everyone, I have to appologize for starting some vicious
|
||
cycles here. Since Spellwind didn't make a post saying "My keyboard is
|
||
broken", I assumed that he was doing it on purpose. The numbers really
|
||
bugged me, and they persisted... I started writing yelling messages to
|
||
stop it. Bad idea. Sorry everyone.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 01:09:00
|
||
Message Number 5480
|
||
|
||
WELL, everyone! GTE got off their lazy butts and got Rocky his line.
|
||
The new number is 371-7022!! And the multi-lines will be in Monday.
|
||
Sounds like a good idea to me!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Whorf
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 01:12:25
|
||
Message Number 5481
|
||
|
||
Have you forgotten? Kirk WAS court martialed. The episode was called
|
||
"Court Martial" as a matter of fact.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 01:13:48
|
||
Message Number 5482
|
||
|
||
> dumber opponents, like, say, the Ferengi and Ken Ober...
|
||
|
||
Does this validate his theory that you hate him?? (By the way, I like
|
||
that sentence!)
|
||
|
||
> -- A Turtle
|
||
|
||
I like that too, but would you de-cloak, or ve shall havf to svoot you
|
||
down... into a nuclear wessel.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Whorf
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 02:53:29
|
||
Message Number 5483
|
||
|
||
Have you seen the slide show on ST at Necronomicon? It's very funny.
|
||
One slide shows an enlargment of the plague on the bridge, with
|
||
instructions on how to take-over the Enterprise. Something like:
|
||
1)Get access to the aux. bridge.
|
||
2)something I forgot
|
||
3)Watch out for the pointy eared one on the bridge, he's tough.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Philip K. Dick
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 02:56:41
|
||
Message Number 5484
|
||
|
||
>still can't find "A Scanner Darkly," though.
|
||
|
||
Wow, Zot, who's in back of me, is holding [placing book in his hand]
|
||
it in his hot little paws. Actually, the library does have some movies,
|
||
and the Anime group meets there every month.
|
||
|
||
...not to mention the magazine "American Atheist," but the librarians
|
||
keep ranting on about how Satan order them the subscription.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: validation
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 09:17:44
|
||
Message Number 5485
|
||
|
||
Sorry, wrong version.
|
||
I don't really trust the KJV all
|
||
that much.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 09:22:49
|
||
Message Number 5486
|
||
|
||
It wasn't two days ago...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 09:26:26
|
||
Message Number 5487
|
||
|
||
>...or ve shall hevf to svoot you down... into a nuclear wessel.
|
||
|
||
Almost.
|
||
If you are trying to emulate Chkov the quote would be more like this:
|
||
|
||
or ve shell hev to shoot shoot you down... into a nuclear wessel.
|
||
|
||
Please note some miner(get it?) changes.
|
||
|
||
I hev to go now,
|
||
A hopefully helpful C.C.A.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: ect.
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 10:05:55
|
||
Message Number 5488
|
||
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Doghouse
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 10:15:55
|
||
Message Number 5489
|
||
|
||
> I eat less, I excercise more and I eat better (nutritious) food and I
|
||
> still put it on!!!
|
||
|
||
Hmm. Stop eating nutritious food. Junk food is your friend. All the
|
||
preservatives will help to keep you the same. You will live forever if
|
||
you get enough junk food.
|
||
|
||
A smoking, junk food junkie Raven
|
||
|
||
Please don't hit me. No not the chair...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Not Real
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 10:27:53
|
||
Message Number 5490
|
||
|
||
> I am NOT anal-retentive.
|
||
|
||
Ok, I apologise. You are no more anal-retentive than Bart is.
|
||
-R-
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
Subject: StarTrekkies
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 10:33:37
|
||
Message Number 5491
|
||
|
||
From Barbara, who is looking over my shoulder : "That's because there is
|
||
no trilogy, you twit"
|
||
|
||
An ardent fan of Darkmage Barbara.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: C.C.A.
|
||
Subject: religion
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 10:46:40
|
||
Message Number 5492
|
||
|
||
See my last messages on this thread and reread them.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: cca
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 10:49:05
|
||
Message Number 5493
|
||
|
||
I think the first letter stands for conservative.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: God...
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 10:56:37
|
||
Message Number 5494
|
||
|
||
Well, there was supposed to be a big face w. an evil grin, but this
|
||
software eats backslashes.
|
||
|
||
(O )
|
||
)
|
||
(O )
|
||
|
||
-R-
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Worf? Where?
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 14:51:28
|
||
Message Number 5495
|
||
|
||
>Have you forgotten? Kirk WAS court martialed.
|
||
|
||
Yes, but for the wrong reasons--and he was acquitted. Kirk should
|
||
by all rights have been court-martialled for gross incompetence and
|
||
negligence...and for breaking the Prime Directive, several times...
|
||
and for recklessly endangering his ship and his crew, several times...
|
||
and for using a Federation Starship for personal ends (Amok Time)...
|
||
Kirk may have been good at fighting and laying, but as a starship
|
||
captain he was lousy.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 14:55:06
|
||
Message Number 5496
|
||
|
||
--A Turtle
|
||
.
|
||
.
|
||
.
|
||
.
|
||
.
|
||
.:.
|
||
>I like that too...b.**/*:ld you please de-cloak...or ve shall have to
|
||
>svoot you down...***%*#**"%*$r wessel...
|
||
|
||
HA! Go ahead, TRY to shoot me down, I /dare/ you! I've just crippled
|
||
a verb phrase and a prepositional phrase with ONE SHOT. HA!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: C.C.A.
|
||
Subject: Advertise here!
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 14:59:26
|
||
Message Number 5497
|
||
|
||
>I don't really trust the KJV all
|
||
>that much.
|
||
|
||
That's because it's a Godawful bad translation. I don't think there
|
||
are /any/ translations of the Bible other than the KJV and its
|
||
offspring that mention Lucifer, though...that would be totally
|
||
against the entire Hebrew belief system. The ancient Hebrews believed
|
||
that to know a thing's name is to have power over that thing (hence
|
||
God asks Adam to name all his earthly creations, thereby giving Adam
|
||
power over them); to know the name of God or Satan is to claim to have
|
||
power over them, which is blasphemy.
|
||
|
||
"Lucifer" is Latin for "light giver," and is the Latin name for the
|
||
Eastern Star. That particular word is an artifact of the Vulgate
|
||
Bible and no analog of it can be found in any older document. (Think
|
||
about it..."Lucifer" is not a Hebrew name by a long shot!)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: RAVEN
|
||
Subject: ect.
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 15:05:42
|
||
Message Number 5499
|
||
|
||
>Pseudo science, the wave of the doomed.
|
||
|
||
Ignorance never goes out of style. It was the fashion yesterday, it's
|
||
the trend today, and it will set the pace tomorrow.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: skirts III
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 21:46:09
|
||
Message Number 5501
|
||
|
||
Unfortunately - the world will judge your intelligence (perceived of
|
||
course) by what they see of you. It's not right but it IS the way
|
||
of the world.. I see this every day with a young guy we have. He's
|
||
sharp and has a better than average brain but his spelling is the shits.
|
||
Therefor people judge him by that... Moral? Work at it a little
|
||
harder - anyone that reads 3 books a day should have a better idea
|
||
of the way those books are assembled.
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: Vulgarity
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 21:52:07
|
||
Message Number 5502
|
||
|
||
Now now - don't get your hopes up...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Richard Nixon
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 22:00:48
|
||
Message Number 5504
|
||
|
||
You know who I'm surprised no one bashes? LBJ was the crookedest SOB
|
||
to EVER walk in the White House - next comes Lincoln with his personal
|
||
civil, and editorial rights violations...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: abuse
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 22:08:12
|
||
Message Number 5505
|
||
|
||
I live in Bradenton - I'd prefer (because of my schedule (or lack there
|
||
of) for you to leave a message on my machine at work - hell for the next
|
||
day if it comes to that. I'm flexible -- 355-9761 ext 2029
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 22:16:38
|
||
Message Number 5506
|
||
|
||
#1 - I happen to be *extremely* busy at this time. I've rapped with
|
||
Turtle about how hard it is to keep up when the stuff is flying fast
|
||
and furious and I can't get on the board for a couple of days. If
|
||
this is "running" from the issues - sorry for the perception but I
|
||
have a hell of a lot of programming to do at work (some even at home).
|
||
|
||
#2 - Ok lemme ask you this: What sort of "proof" or "support" are
|
||
you looking for? What would you accept?
|
||
|
||
* A deep fried JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Small fib
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 22:23:35
|
||
Message Number 5507
|
||
|
||
Now that's a small fib Turtle - I used to smoke and my drive heads
|
||
were glued together with some nasty gunky brown shit that actually
|
||
stuck to the media.
|
||
* A reformed JonBoy
|
||
|
||
Actually - he has a point - smokers are being browbeaten for what is
|
||
essentially a right on their part. I was always a considerate smoker
|
||
in that I was careful WHEN I smoked and made sure that it did not
|
||
go around anyone that didn't smoke.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: PARTY!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 22:28:00
|
||
Message Number 5508
|
||
|
||
Hell - I've got it! We can reserve Turtle Beach - we had a company
|
||
party there not too long ago and you must admit it is appropos.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Movies
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 22:29:34
|
||
Message Number 5509
|
||
|
||
Count me in!!! Where is this theatre??
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 22:37:58
|
||
Message Number 5510
|
||
|
||
Isn't that what 'A' for abort is for?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Poem
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 22:40:26
|
||
Message Number 5511
|
||
|
||
I was wondering if you *really* had said that about Olivia - jeez I'm
|
||
so relieved to hear it was Rush (even tho I find the lead-singer
|
||
tirsome to listen to for long - kinda reminds me of a group known
|
||
as White Witch).
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
Subject: Orson Scott Car
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 22:43:37
|
||
Message Number 5512
|
||
|
||
I bought a book the other day - it looked like a sequel to "A Planet
|
||
Called Treason" (One of my favorites of all time!) - the dirty bastard
|
||
decided that he was a better writer now and rewrote the damned thing!
|
||
I'm pissed!
|
||
An OSC fan (maybe) JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Complete
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 22:58:02
|
||
Message Number 5513
|
||
|
||
No , think about it... the planet as an abode for your neighbor would
|
||
require care and concern on your part not to screw it up. The Golden
|
||
Rule obtains it's power from it's elegant simplicity.
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: VAXen as God
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 23:00:09
|
||
Message Number 5514
|
||
|
||
Nahh what's that Joni Mitchell song "you never know what you got till
|
||
it's gone...". I *liked* writing realtime and interprocess communica-
|
||
tions code on the VAX's - we never could get our routines to work
|
||
across the network with different OS's tho - not enuf time and Ultrix
|
||
is so freewheeling but stashes everything for later (buffered I/O) and
|
||
VMS is such a damned nazi when it comes to resources... hell <snif>
|
||
I *miss* school!!!!
|
||
An Alma-mattered JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: validation
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 23:05:40
|
||
Message Number 5515
|
||
|
||
I was sold on the fact that it used the latest texts and was cross-
|
||
referenced to keep secular influences OUT. Now I understand that
|
||
there's an even newer version that is actually modified KJ in language
|
||
(which is beautiful in it descriptiveness) and has some other claims to
|
||
fame - I'll have to peek at one just out of curiosity. Amazing that
|
||
after all these centuries it is still THE premier book.
|
||
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: RAVEN
|
||
Subject: religion
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 23:11:08
|
||
Message Number 5516
|
||
|
||
Actually - It doesn't really matter WHAT you think - you and I are not
|
||
in a position to determine the sincerity of the persons belief or in
|
||
fact anything about the person. The traditional Christian viewpoint
|
||
that even many Christians have trouble understanding is that grace
|
||
and absolution of sins really is free. I have heard more people grumbel
|
||
that "such and such" couldn't possibly deserve it and couldn't possibly
|
||
get it at the last minute like that - wrong! It is a free gift so why
|
||
begrudge it to someone else? It doesn't affect you so ditto. Matter
|
||
of fact - the whole process is not dependant on anyone except that
|
||
individual and Jesus. Kinda like complaining that since your
|
||
neighbor is a jerk flowers should die in his flowerbed...
|
||
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
(no that is not non-sequitar)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 23:18:18
|
||
Message Number 5517
|
||
|
||
I *really* hate pompous idiots like yourself... You would be an
|
||
international phenomenon to have tested that high - besides - which
|
||
scale? Which test? I must say candidly that I don't believe you!
|
||
Buckminster Fuller wasn't that high, Leonardo Da Vinci was estimated
|
||
as the highest IQ of all time at 220.
|
||
Now - IQ has never been correlated to ANYTHING significant! This
|
||
is through extensive MENSA and psychological research. I belong
|
||
to MENSA but would be the last to say that my IQ qualifies me for
|
||
anything....
|
||
grumble mumble-.,./,./ JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Comnputer Consu
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 23:23:45
|
||
Message Number 5518
|
||
|
||
>How does one become an independant computer consultant, anyway?...
|
||
|
||
By hanging out your shingle and pronouncing to the world at large:
|
||
"I know my shit! - Pay me big bucks." The tough part is proving it.
|
||
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Arfritis
|
||
Date & Time: 06/02/90 23:59:33
|
||
Message Number 5519
|
||
|
||
Grrrrr! Yip! Yip! Woof! Yip!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 00:02:21
|
||
Message Number 5520
|
||
|
||
Aborting a message only lets you take back something before anyone else
|
||
has seen it. If you've already put your foot in it and people are
|
||
jumping on your ass -- either because they don't agree with your point
|
||
or because you phrased your point in a way that pissed them off,
|
||
intentionally or not -- it's too late to abort the message; you're
|
||
either stuck defending the point you made badly (or even defending a
|
||
point you didn't mean to make at all), apologizing, or trying to find a
|
||
way to back away from the stance without apologizing, like, "Gosh, how
|
||
could you all take that so seriously" or "It's so nice to see my trick
|
||
of getting conversation going again worked." This, of course, can piss
|
||
people as much as the original message did.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: A Poem...
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 00:46:28
|
||
Message Number 5521
|
||
|
||
The creak of the floor could be heard from a distance away as all the
|
||
famous authors and critics who had passed away, had come back to life
|
||
to claim another poet(?) for thier lunch........
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: THE DOCTOR
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 00:49:25
|
||
Message Number 5522
|
||
|
||
Okay, I still don't get it? Which was the hunter/gatherer, the
|
||
chicken or the egg????
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: THE DOCTOR
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 00:51:00
|
||
Message Number 5523
|
||
|
||
I prefer the attitude that the 'human' race is the one to be
|
||
racist about. We all s*ck the big one. This planet would be
|
||
better off with us around, or would the cockroaches and rats
|
||
take over?????
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: THE DOCTOR
|
||
Subject: FemTalk (tm)
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 00:53:08
|
||
Message Number 5524
|
||
|
||
Would you agree that if WHAT you are affects WHAT I am, then I should
|
||
have the right to ACT upon it? If WHAT you are has no bearing on HOW
|
||
you ACT/INTERACT with society, then WHAT you are is HIDING in a
|
||
closet (or somewhere). The gays down the road didn't ask if they could
|
||
make-out in thier front yard while I'm riding my kids past on thier
|
||
bikes, but WHY can't I act upon it? The guys down the road don't have
|
||
to explain to my kids what's going on down there...I DO!!!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Griffin dormant
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 00:58:49
|
||
Message Number 5525
|
||
|
||
You've got friends????
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Griffin dormant
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 01:00:44
|
||
Message Number 5526
|
||
|
||
At time like this, you should remember to climb a tree, cut the
|
||
soles off of your shoes and learn how to play the flute.
|
||
|
||
|
||
(oops, stole that from Fireside Theatre....sorry)
|
||
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: ACAPULCO
|
||
Subject: Incidentally,
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 01:03:29
|
||
Message Number 5527
|
||
|
||
InfoWorld?????? Congrat's.......wow.....it's like the Enquirer of
|
||
computer rags. Nawwwwww, just kiddin'. Really sounds good. Wish ya
|
||
luck.........sssssssSNAKEBYTE . .
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Incidentally,
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 01:05:44
|
||
Message Number 5528
|
||
|
||
If you did have AutoCAD experience (and I mean a lot), I could of
|
||
lined you up with someone in Atlanta that needs someone REAL bad and]
|
||
they're willing to pay in the 50's. I just hate Atlanta...yuck.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: Volvos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 01:10:30
|
||
Message Number 5529
|
||
|
||
"knockin' me out with those American thighs...."
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 01:19:02
|
||
Message Number 5531
|
||
|
||
>seemingly inteligent people......
|
||
I guess I can take that as a compliment......Beyond Chaos is a newly
|
||
birthed board and I'm there to see if it grows or becomes a still-born.
|
||
It's not hard to have some 'trash' ruin a board REAL fast.
|
||
|
||
(BTW-still up for a B'town Rally?? not REAL soon, but sometime....)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 01:22:24
|
||
Message Number 5532
|
||
|
||
Last time I was able to get on to CC was May 26th. I was still
|
||
using the old number. My speaker's about shot on my modem, so it's
|
||
hard to tell what I'm getting bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz BUSY
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 01:26:29
|
||
Message Number 5533
|
||
|
||
>tested at 180......
|
||
|
||
wow, must be hard to write when you're goin' that fast.....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: C.C.A.
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 01:28:01
|
||
Message Number 5534
|
||
|
||
The tests used to determine IQ are gaged to whatever age you are testing
|
||
It is not likely that an IQ will change much over someone's lifetime.
|
||
It is a measure of how well you can learn and how well you will retain
|
||
it....it is not a quantitative measure of knowledge as you may be
|
||
implying. I know people with high-100's IQs that couldn't get a
|
||
spark plug out of their car if their life depended on it.
|
||
|
||
"Those of you who think you know everything are really
|
||
annoying to those of us who do....."
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 01:32:44
|
||
Message Number 5535
|
||
|
||
1t'5 n1ce t0 5ee 50me0ne adm1t 0pen1y when a m15take ha5 been d0ne...
|
||
5555555555nakebyte
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 01:49:22
|
||
Message Number 5536
|
||
|
||
MENSA is just a gr0up f0r sn0bbish geniuses. Just because y0u're smar
|
||
ter, y0u sh0udn't make y0rse1ves seem better. F0r instance, I have a
|
||
g00d brain, but I'm sh0rt and n0t g00d in any sp0rt. I'm sure y0u have
|
||
fau1ts, t00. I'm a high sch001 dr0p0ut(th0ugh I started 0ff bad in 8th
|
||
grade), and I was tested at 180
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 01:55:01
|
||
Message Number 5537
|
||
|
||
I think we (humans) sh0u1d c0exist with a11 creatures. I'm n0t a
|
||
big fan 0f science and techn010gy (th0ugh I have an Amiga). I w0u1d
|
||
rather we revert back t0 the way we were bef0re what we are destr0ys us.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: validation
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 02:16:12
|
||
Message Number 5538
|
||
|
||
Yes, lots of problems with the KJ translations. But considering the
|
||
times and the limited amount of time allotted the committee, they
|
||
did tolerably well. Despite many flaws in accuracy, in my opinion
|
||
it's still the most beautiful translation available in the English
|
||
language (that's from a literary standpoint). I have problems
|
||
reading many of the contemporary translations. I guess I'm old-
|
||
fashioned, but I don't really want to read that Mary was preggers,
|
||
I prefer her being 'with child'.
|
||
What really irks me are the churches that use the paraphrased
|
||
Bibles as their main texts. All the generations of scholarly
|
||
research to try to get the most accurate translations ... and some
|
||
bozos come along and paraphrase it any old way they want just to
|
||
make 'their' interpretation the ONLY one. And generally these are
|
||
the same churches that preach the Bible is 100% accurate and
|
||
infallible and handed down directly from God. Argggh!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: THE DOCTOR
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 02:33:09
|
||
Message Number 5539
|
||
|
||
> several organisms more advanced than planaria that are asexual
|
||
|
||
I know, I've dated several.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: THE DOCTOR
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 02:34:26
|
||
Message Number 5540
|
||
|
||
> rwb....I mean damn, it's a free country.....
|
||
|
||
There's something I've meaning to ask you.... What the heck does
|
||
rwb stand for?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Mitchell
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 02:47:30
|
||
Message Number 5541
|
||
|
||
The Joni Mitchell song is "Big Yellow Taxi".
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 02:56:09
|
||
Message Number 5542
|
||
|
||
I find it interesting that your third choice re:controversial posts
|
||
is the only one you say will 'piss people as much as the original
|
||
message."
|
||
Seems that point one (defending your position) is pointless after
|
||
three rounds... worse, it's BORING and people get tired of it. Point
|
||
two, apologizing, would be hypocritical if you truly believed in your
|
||
original message. This might not piss-off people who like to be
|
||
kow-towed to, but hypocrisy from a friend I find unacceptable and
|
||
insulting. Choice three is trying to get past the unpleasantness
|
||
with good spirits. Would you truly prefer arguements with no
|
||
resolution to continue escalating?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: afterlife
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 03:30:53
|
||
Message Number 5543
|
||
|
||
You are correct... not all death is can be postponed. But I was not
|
||
refering to tramatic deaths. A cardiac arrest is tramatic, but it
|
||
is not do to unforseable circumstances. Nor does it usually have any
|
||
thing to do with massive hemoraging. Nearly all deaths are directly
|
||
related to the heart stopping. The only death I can not think of
|
||
that is not caused by the heart stopping in some way or another
|
||
is a severe head trauma. Anyway, our mind can control our involentary
|
||
muscles such as the heart, the diaphram ect. Studies in biofeedback
|
||
have shown that our mind can do many things... yes it is
|
||
> /neat/
|
||
what our brain can do. So, if we can control those muscles in a
|
||
relaxed situation, why couldn't we control them when our bodies are
|
||
dead, but our brain is still barely functioning. Who knows what our
|
||
brain is capable of doing. Most people don't even use 75% of their
|
||
brain, so who is to say what we can a can't do.
|
||
One thing we can do to postpone death is not to step out in front of
|
||
an onrushing train!
|
||
Skeptical but not pessomistic
|
||
Tree
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: skirts III
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 03:44:21
|
||
Message Number 5544
|
||
|
||
I meant 3 books a week. But that aside, when I read a book, I do
|
||
not look at the individual letters, or even the individual words for
|
||
the most part. Rather I look at groups of words, sometimes whole
|
||
sentences. Even then, I am looking for concepts and Ideas. Syntax
|
||
is important to be sure. But when one reads quite a bit and writes
|
||
rarely, one tends to overlook things like spelling.
|
||
By the way, the only valid IQ tests deal only in symbols... universal
|
||
symbols. People should not judge other people by how they speak, if
|
||
the people who are judging do not know the people language who they
|
||
are judging, then it would not matter how inteligent the person was,
|
||
the person would sound like a gibbering idiot. Use of Language is
|
||
not a valid indication of IQ. But I agree that it can help get an
|
||
Idea across.
|
||
|
||
Spelling Tree
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: validation
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 04:01:44
|
||
Message Number 5545
|
||
|
||
Ekk1esea(sp?) greek. 0r hebrew. 0r s0mething. means assemb1y. referred
|
||
t0 as church...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: RAVEN
|
||
Subject: ect.
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 08:24:04
|
||
Message Number 5549
|
||
|
||
I agree, some of it *sounds* pretty weird. Like there are several books
|
||
listed that purport to be "messages" from a "wise, kind, loving etc ad
|
||
nauseum" race that live "in the future/past/galaxy/alternate universe"
|
||
that want to show us the way. The "message" is usually received by
|
||
telepathy which I guess is still more *respectable* than channelling.
|
||
Lemme see - oh yeah one race is cat people (morphs!!!), another kinda
|
||
resembles the Mayans but are "much older" - sheesh.
|
||
|
||
Some other strange reading is to be had if you pusue Kabbalism. I got
|
||
interested in the allegation that when Christ impressed the Rabbis at
|
||
the age of 12 he was indoctrinated into the Essene sect. Now the Essene
|
||
sect are known as the Jewish Mystics and Tarot cards, and Kabbalism
|
||
(orders of like - The Golden Dawn) claim to be related and descended
|
||
from the Essenes plus teachings that are far older than recorded
|
||
Hebrew faith. Anyway - you wanna see some strange stuff about treading
|
||
the universe in the spacecraft of your imagination - it's all there.
|
||
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 08:44:32
|
||
Message Number 5550
|
||
|
||
This is true - I thought you were referring to those messages that
|
||
had one kind of vibes at the top and by the bottom had run outta steam
|
||
and the tone is now flabby. Like "maybe I was a little strident so
|
||
I'll chill out". Wimp!
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
Subject: Incidentally,
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 08:48:20
|
||
Message Number 5551
|
||
|
||
Not to mention the
|
||
'50's' barely gets it in Atlanta unless you commute 50 miles. Getting
|
||
as bad as San Francisco.
|
||
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 08:51:44
|
||
Message Number 5552
|
||
|
||
Screeeeetttttttccccchhhhhhhhhhh! Slam on the brakes whoa!!!!
|
||
#1 - While there may well be "snobbish geniuses" in MENSA, that is NOT
|
||
what it is for. It is simply a social forum for intelligent people
|
||
along with some research into IQ and the gifted plus some work
|
||
with young people (like in school).
|
||
#2 - I seem to recall that I stated my IQ did not qualify me for DIDDLY
|
||
except MENSA membership. My common sense, wit, panache and general
|
||
aura of benevolent charisma is what qualifies me as "better".
|
||
#3 - being short and not good at any sports hardly qualifies as faults.
|
||
They are simply conditions that shaped your life in ways that
|
||
reflect *your* perception of yourself and *your* attitude towards
|
||
coping with life.
|
||
#4 - Dropping out of High School was a decision on your part that is
|
||
a direct indicator of a lack of common sense on your part - and
|
||
frankly puzzles me in a discussion on IQ.
|
||
The whole intent of my message was simply to state my belief that the
|
||
figure of "180 IQ" was:
|
||
A) Some really weird test that gives outrageous numbers to stroke your
|
||
ego. (let's see... if I use pi as a multiplier does that give it the
|
||
blessings of the ancient Greeks?)
|
||
B) You made it up to try and impress/intimidate someone. Bad course of
|
||
action on a board where most of the denizens really are of a higher
|
||
mental calibre than J.Q. Public.
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: validation
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 09:07:48
|
||
Message Number 5553
|
||
|
||
I sincerely hope that Turtle gets off his butt and starts the Best of
|
||
Altered soon or I will have to volunteer. That line about Mary deserves
|
||
to be in it... I think the whole idea behind the paraphrased Bibles is
|
||
for people that complain about how hard the language is and how they
|
||
can't understand it. These are the Pablum Christians that are waiting
|
||
for someone to spoon-feed them what they should believe. This is how
|
||
jerks like Bakker get into power and unfortunately tragedies like
|
||
Jonestown happen. The Bible is one of those books that has to be read
|
||
in the context of what you are trying to get out of it. You wanna read
|
||
a story - there are a lot of pretty good ones - some pretty racy. Take
|
||
, for example, after the flight from Sodom & Gomorrah and Lot's wife
|
||
was turned into a pillar of salt. I will leave it an an exercise to
|
||
the interested to read what Lot's daughters decided about dear old dad.
|
||
Remember that they are a product of the environment of Sodom & Gomorrah
|
||
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: Mitchell
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 09:17:21
|
||
Message Number 5554
|
||
|
||
I knew that! Who could ever forget it? Her voice, the tune, the words
|
||
they all met in celestial harmony!!! Well.... maybe it was just a good
|
||
song. Heheh... Seriously - I still confuse it with the song by Harry
|
||
Chapin (now THERE's a guy I miss!!!). There's a new guy from Ireland
|
||
(Luka Bloom) that plays a mean 12 string (my instrument of choice)
|
||
that is a pretty good bard - but I do miss Chapin.
|
||
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: skirts III
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 09:24:46
|
||
Message Number 5555
|
||
|
||
I beg to differ sir. Why do you think that it apparent to all on this
|
||
board? Reading is fundamentally an exercise in pattern matching. If
|
||
the pattern is flawed then the reading process is interrupted while the
|
||
offending bit of ink gets studied an extra millisecond or so. To do
|
||
this - the brain calls on higher level functions and thus it is "noticed
|
||
If what you say is true - you don't notice - then your lower level
|
||
functions are either in control totally , in which case they should be
|
||
sent to Siberia to do time for their impudence - or the higher functions
|
||
are playing golf/looking at pretty girls and should be locked in a
|
||
closet with an abacus and not let out until they have computed pi to
|
||
the 90'th decimal place.
|
||
All recognized IQ tests have MOSTLY symbolism as the vehicle. MENSA
|
||
even goes to the extent to give you at least 2 supervised tests one of
|
||
which (in my case ) was British - I guess to measure what effect
|
||
cultural differences made in the administering of the test.
|
||
|
||
JonBoy
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: JONBOY
|
||
To: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
Subject: Get together
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 09:39:58
|
||
Message Number 5556
|
||
|
||
Hey Lady! Why don't you give me a call at work - 355-9761 extension
|
||
2029. If I'm not there my digital mail can take a number to call you
|
||
back on. It's kind of difficult to break the ice sometimes - this
|
||
board is tuff because of the handles. Anyway - I would just like to
|
||
do something that interests us both. I'd be just as happy going for a
|
||
bike ride as anything. Tacos are just a very informal thing that I do
|
||
on Wednesdays after a hard day at work. The time varies depending on
|
||
when I decide I've had enuf! I don't know if you like to drink, or even
|
||
if you are old enough to drink (legally that is - and I personally
|
||
think that it's stupid). Anyway I like doing most things except
|
||
dancing - mostly because I never learned (I was always in the band or
|
||
rapping with them). I like going to any kind of museum or art gallery,
|
||
I like to walk/hike/camp out, bike ride/sunday drive, I even like
|
||
to (careful - don't faint!) to go shopping. All I really need to know
|
||
is when where and what. Oh yeah - Monday night is Buffalo Wings nite!
|
||
We usually look like jackals at a carcass on the Serengeti when we do
|
||
wings so it's not for the faint of heart!
|
||
Jon
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Worf? Where?
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 11:31:52
|
||
Message Number 5557
|
||
|
||
> (Amok Time)
|
||
|
||
Ah, but Kirk got off easy there. Right after he hijacked the ship to
|
||
Vulcan, they said he could divert. Maybe he would just stretch it a bit
|
||
and say he waited for the response... Anyway, T'Pau might have had
|
||
something to say the the Federation if Kirk WAS court martialed.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Movies
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 11:40:59
|
||
Message Number 5558
|
||
|
||
Litchfield Cinemas in on Cortez Road in Bradenton. From US 41, it's
|
||
out towards the beaches.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 11:46:05
|
||
Message Number 5559
|
||
|
||
> still up for a B'town Rally??
|
||
|
||
Yeah! I actually can't wait. I want to do it RIGHT this time. And get
|
||
some revenge against people who like to blame others for mistakes made
|
||
by the whole team...(Siesta Key-ha!!)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 11:48:57
|
||
Message Number 5560
|
||
|
||
>5555555555nakebyte
|
||
|
||
PLEASE! Don't do that unless you have a problem with your keyboard!
|
||
It's /really annoying/...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: skirts III
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 12:33:00
|
||
Message Number 5562
|
||
|
||
Pattern matching, hmmmm. Correct, i'm sure you are right. But
|
||
the fact is, I am an artist. If I were to look at each individual
|
||
brush stroke every time I looked at one of my paintings, I would never
|
||
get finished. This is not to say that It does not take a long time
|
||
to do a piece of art, because it does. Now as to how this relates to
|
||
what you were speaking of, the fact is that most artist start with
|
||
broad, bold strokes. They try not to limit themselves until the very
|
||
end of the picture. Now, that is not to say that our higher brains
|
||
are out to lunch, but it does mean that both conscience, and un-
|
||
conscience parts of the brain are working in tandem. Many people
|
||
deny their sub (not un)conscience completely. And many criminals,
|
||
habitual drug users ect. deny there conscience or upper brain level
|
||
functions. Now, when I read a book, I let both my conscience and
|
||
subconscience absorb the words. (and or patterns which are actually
|
||
SYMBOLS) Now think of your brain as a spellchecker on Word Perfect.
|
||
Suppose you were typing along at a furiouse pase. Now this typing
|
||
is actually the relating of a thought. Spellchecker is trying to
|
||
keep up with you. It could not possibly, as you said the brain
|
||
slows down and tries to call on a higher brain function. But the
|
||
higher brain says "Wait Im trying to think about my own thought here
|
||
(the sentence), leave me alone, well do lunch or something), so the
|
||
brain merrily passes over the misspelling and continues to type out
|
||
the Idea. Ahhh, now we get to a period, the brain says hold on, I
|
||
have time for a Ham and Cheese sandwich, maybe I'll check my spelling!
|
||
Nahh, my Ideas are to important, I have to get them out of my head
|
||
before they fragment! Now this, I believe is why I have trouble
|
||
spelling, and why it does not bother me if someone else is a poor
|
||
speller! Perhaps you did hit on something when you mentioned a
|
||
culteral difference. Spelling and use of word could be directly related
|
||
to ones culture. Not a new thought!
|
||
Tree
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
Subject: Incidentally,
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 13:33:30
|
||
Message Number 5563
|
||
|
||
Ah well, I *don't* have a lot of AutoCAD experience. I'm a fast learner
|
||
but Performance Computers wasn't willing to train (even odder when you
|
||
consider all they really wanted me to know how to do was install the
|
||
program in the field).
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 13:35:49
|
||
Message Number 5564
|
||
|
||
Co-existing with all creatures and co-existing with science and
|
||
technology are not mutually exclusive options. "What we are" cannot
|
||
destroy us any more than a dolphin's dolphin-ness can destroy the race
|
||
of dolphins, and reverting back to pre-technological days (assuming this
|
||
is what you're implying) will not help things. After all, we weren't
|
||
aware of how badly things were going for the planet until we had enough
|
||
scientific knowledge to learn the damage we were doing to the biosphere,
|
||
and until fairly recently, we didn't have the technology to reverse it.
|
||
If the planet had the same population level it does now -- or even the
|
||
same population level it had in, say, the '50s -- and we had the same
|
||
*knowledge* level that we had before the industrial revolution -- well,
|
||
we probably wouldn't have made it to the '90s to begin with. What can
|
||
destroy us is "what we do."
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 13:42:56
|
||
Message Number 5565
|
||
|
||
I've seen debates (not necessarily on this BBS) where people end up
|
||
saying things they don't really agree with because they start feeling
|
||
defensive; this usually happens because they jumped into an discussion
|
||
in a way that immediately turned it into an argument. Sometimes
|
||
apologizing for what has been said is the most logical option, but it's
|
||
one that almost nobody ever takes. Also, as I (think I) said, the
|
||
apology may well be for the way the point was made, not for the point
|
||
itself; a lot of people would rather duck the issue with a "gosh, I was
|
||
just kidding" type line than say, "I guess I said that a little too
|
||
strongly, and I'm sorry about that."
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 13:51:53
|
||
Message Number 5566
|
||
|
||
> ...Like "maybe I was a little strident so I'll chill out".
|
||
|
||
I've seen some of those; I think it's generally better to erase the
|
||
entire message and start over if you get to that point, assuming you
|
||
think the point is worth saving. It is very easy to be over-strident
|
||
in debates, especially, it seems, in BBS debates. This might be because
|
||
you can't gauge how others involved are reacting to what you say while
|
||
you're saying it, and it's very easy to post long stretches of purple
|
||
prose passionately defending your point when nobody can stop you in
|
||
process to say, "you're going overboard here." Despite the fact that
|
||
you have a lot longer to compose responses, it is paradoxically a lot
|
||
easier to put one's paw in one's mouth on a BBS, too -- and, it seems,
|
||
a lot harder to remove it.,
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Richard Nixon
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 14:09:16
|
||
Message Number 5567
|
||
|
||
>LBJ was the crookedest SOB to EVER walk into the White House...
|
||
|
||
And let us not forget Ronnie Raygun--while he wasn't terribly corrupt
|
||
himself, he turned such a blind eye to the goings-on in his government
|
||
that we ended up with blatant, rampant corruption in every level of
|
||
the bureaucracy. It's hard to say which is more distressing--the fact
|
||
that the corruption existed on such an enormous scale or the fact
|
||
that everyone was so relaxed about enforcing minimal standards that
|
||
nobody even bothered trying to hide it.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: Small fib
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 14:16:02
|
||
Message Number 5568
|
||
|
||
>...smokers are being browbeaten for what is essentially a right on
|
||
>their part.
|
||
|
||
I could, of course, point out that one could argue smokers don't have a
|
||
/right/ to smoke any more than heroin junkies have a /right/ to shoot
|
||
up; smoking is simply a more tolerated form of self-abuse (but one that
|
||
can be regulated just as easily as any other form of recreational drug
|
||
use). But, since I really don't want to open that particular can of
|
||
flames, I won't.
|
||
--A tactful Turtle
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: PARTY!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 14:19:26
|
||
Message Number 5569
|
||
|
||
>We can reserve Turtle Beach...
|
||
|
||
The problem with Turtle Beach is the abundance of sand coupled with
|
||
the lack of video equipment. While it's somehow appropriate, I'm not
|
||
sure how successful a beach Furry Party would be...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 14:38:10
|
||
Message Number 5570
|
||
|
||
>This planet would be better off with[out] us around, or would the
|
||
>cockroaches and rats take over?????
|
||
|
||
Humanity won't last forever; eventually the world will in fact be free
|
||
of us, and will probably get along quite nicely. We may take a good deal
|
||
of the indigent life on this planet when we go, but that's no biggie;
|
||
mass extinction is nothing new (no land animal with a body mass of over
|
||
about 13 kg or so survived the dinosaurs...) We may also physically
|
||
destroy the planet itself, but that's unlikely, and in any event is
|
||
a risk any planet runs anyway...we may work out our differences and
|
||
get splattered into eternity by a rogue asteroid (just like in the video
|
||
game). No big deal; just wait around long enough and you'll get your
|
||
wish.
|
||
--A fatalistic Turtle
|
||
Wait around long enough after that and you'll get to see the heat death
|
||
of the entire universe...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
Subject: FemTalk (tm)
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 14:42:36
|
||
Message Number 5571
|
||
|
||
>The guys down the road don't have to explain to my kids what's going
|
||
>on down there...I DO!!!
|
||
|
||
So what's your point? Are you trying to put that forward as a reason
|
||
to limit their (the guys down the street) activities? Sooner or later
|
||
your kids will be exposed to that sort of behavior no matter what you
|
||
do, and I for one have never bought the "We must protect our children!"
|
||
argument. Is your argument really "I want to protect my childern," or
|
||
is it "I'm uncomfortable with this idea and would rather be able to
|
||
ignore it than to be forced to answer questions about it"?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
Subject: IQ & Courts...
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 14:46:47
|
||
Message Number 5572
|
||
|
||
>It is not likely that an IQ will change much over someone's lifetime.
|
||
|
||
That's not true; while that's the way the theory goes, it seems that
|
||
the younger the testee the more likely he is to get a higher score. My
|
||
IQ was tested at around 150 when I was in 1st grade and at 132 in
|
||
junior high...figure at that rate it should be about 76 now (applying
|
||
statistical formulae upon those two points, of course). I am inherently
|
||
distrustful of IQ tests in general and all the claims people make about
|
||
their stability and relevance to anything in particular.
|
||
--A Turtle who's slippin' fast...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 14:51:40
|
||
Message Number 5573
|
||
|
||
>I w0uld rather we revert back t0 the way we were bef0re what we are
|
||
>destr0ys us.
|
||
|
||
Um...you can't feed 4 billion people without technology, dude. You wanna
|
||
see death and destruction on a wide scale, try going back to "the way
|
||
we were"...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: afterlife
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 14:57:07
|
||
Message Number 5574
|
||
|
||
>We can control the muscles of the heart...
|
||
|
||
Not if the heart has stopped functioning because its blood supply has
|
||
been cut off, which is the root cause of most heart attacks to begin
|
||
with. Once the muscle starts dying, you can't expect it to respond to
|
||
commands from your brain very well any more.
|
||
|
||
>Most people don't use 75% of their brains...
|
||
|
||
I /HATE/ that!!! I see it everywhere, and I HATE when people say that!
|
||
It sounds neat, but it just plain isn't true. That statistic came from
|
||
early research involving training rats to run through a maze, then
|
||
removing chunks of their cerebrum and seeing if they could still do it--
|
||
the point being to try to localize the center of memory. Well, it turns
|
||
out that there is no center of memory...you can remove tissue from
|
||
about three-quarters of the cerebrum (as long as you don't hit
|
||
anything immediately involved with sustaining life) and the rat will
|
||
still remember the path through the maze. It'll limp or stagger or
|
||
show some other defecit, but it can still get through the maze.
|
||
|
||
In humans, the visual association cortex, audio association cortex,
|
||
and motor areas together account for more than half of the processing
|
||
power of the cerebrum, so it's obviously and /provably/ untrue that
|
||
"people only use a quarter of their brains." Even very localized damage
|
||
anywhere will cause /some/ sort of functional impairment in people.
|
||
--A neurological turtle
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: WYVERNERS
|
||
Subject: -*-
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 15:28:06
|
||
Message Number 5575
|
||
|
||
"Hm, um, huh? Hey! Where7d Chip go?" the reptile says as Angel's
|
||
song fades away into the void of eternal nothingness. "Um, where'd
|
||
the glowing chick go, too?" The turtle looks around him with the air of
|
||
someone who's trying to remember what he had for breakfast exactly
|
||
twenty-two years and three days ago and is being hampered by a large
|
||
and rabid dog trying patiently to gnaw his left foot off. "Um, where'd
|
||
Wezip go, for that matter? I think I should sit down." Turtle seats
|
||
himself at the bar and treats the establishment's occupants at large
|
||
to one of his favorite puzzled expressions. "You know," he observes
|
||
with his trademarked incicisive insight into the world at large, "this
|
||
is turning into an odd day."
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: joke
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 15:43:00
|
||
Message Number 5576
|
||
|
||
|
||
Why did Richard Nix0n watch Deep Thr0at 5 times?
|
||
|
||
|
||
Because he wanted t0 get it d0wn (P)pat.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 15:45:42
|
||
Message Number 5577
|
||
|
||
I'11 rephrase it. What we d0 because 0f what we are...
|
||
Y0u'11 see, s0mething big'11 happen and then we'11 get smart.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 15:51:16
|
||
Message Number 5578
|
||
|
||
My ideas are st0p making cures! 0verp0pu1ati0n is due t0 a11 the
|
||
cures t0 m0st every disease! Pe0p1e 90 years 01d sh0u1dn't be put 0n a
|
||
1ife supp0rt machine, they're n0t enj0ying it! Think. If s0me 0f the
|
||
cures weren't ar0und the p0pu1ati0n w0u1d be a bit m0re stabi1ized and
|
||
the cyc1e 0f 1ife w0u1dn't be s0 dragged 0ut!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: SNAKEBYTE
|
||
Subject: Courts of Chaos
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 17:45:37
|
||
Message Number 5579
|
||
|
||
I was about to post a message to that end. Thank you for saving me tim
|
||
e
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: -?-
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 19:51:45
|
||
Message Number 5580
|
||
|
||
This is a test message.
|
||
|
||
Yep, that's right, we had system trouble again today...during routine
|
||
maintenance, a message appeared that couldn't be deleted, and, well,
|
||
have you ever seen those neat things that are made of two panes of
|
||
glass with water and sand between, that make all the swirly designs
|
||
when you flip 'em over? Have you ever seen what happens when you DROP
|
||
one of them? That's kinda like what the message base looked like. So,
|
||
Yours Truly had to spend a good deal of time cleaning sand out of the
|
||
message base, and while he was at it wrote a program to kinda collect
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some of the mess semi-automatically. Sorta. Anyway, this message might
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explode when I try to save it, so I'm delaying things as long as I can,
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but, well, here goes...
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From: KEN OBER
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: IQ & Courts...
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Date & Time: 06/03/90 20:26:49
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Message Number 5583
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The tests are screwed up -- I think the younger you are, the more
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accurate the test is -- When you get older, IQ tests become a
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combination of academic & learning potential tests -- One moment
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they are asking you "What's Missing In This Picture?" and then the
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next "Who was the vice-president of the 14th President of the
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United States?" Whereas if you are younger, you aren't expected to know
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the 2nd question, so they give you a certain amount of information
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to learn from or utilities to use, and you have to figure things out.
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BTW -- My IQ was tested at either 134 or 136 when I was in 5th grade,
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I forget which one -- I'd like to take one again and see how much it
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has "changed."
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From: ANGEL
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To: SPE11WIND
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Subject: validation
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Date & Time: 06/03/90 21:37:26
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Message Number 5584
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> Ekk1esea(sp?) greek. 0r hebrew. 0r s0mething. means assemb1y...
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Thanks for the info, but what are you talking about?
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From: ANGEL
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To: BEATLE
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Subject: Worf? Where?
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Date & Time: 06/03/90 21:44:49
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Message Number 5585
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Speaking of AMOK TIME, I always wondered who had the unenviable task
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of telling T'Pau she had been suckered by a lowly, illogical human.
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From: ANGEL
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To: TREE BEARD
|
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Subject: grammar again
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Date & Time: 06/03/90 21:50:03
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Message Number 5586
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|
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As long as we seem to be trouncing the spelling/grammar debate again,
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thought I'd share a section from writer's guidelines from Asimov's
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SF Magazine: "Another common cause (all too common, we're afraid) of
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rejection is the obvious lack of basic English compositional skills on
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the part of the author. By this we mean that the writer has misspelled
|
||
or misused everyday words, and/or mispunctuated same. Stories are
|
||
rejected on this basis because a writer _must_ be familiar with the
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||
tools of his or her trade, just as an electrician or carpenter must."
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||
Or, as in your example, an artist must know his tools. You say your
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"Ideas are to important..." in that case, I would think you would
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||
want to make sure they were communicated so that everyone could
|
||
understand them.
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From: ANGEL
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||
To: SPE11WIND
|
||
Subject: godtalk
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Date & Time: 06/03/90 22:04:05
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Message Number 5587
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|
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No, thank you. I rather like the advent of modern medicine. I don't
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||
long for the good-ole-days of the black death, and routinely
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||
quarantining entire towns for bubonic plague, or burning the homes
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||
of small pox victims, or the annual yellow fever epidemics, etc.
|
||
I still remember two summers as a child when no one was allowed to go
|
||
swimming anywhere because of the fear of polio. The combination of
|
||
black wreaths and yellow quarantine placards on front doors is a
|
||
nostalgic treat I would wish to avoid.
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|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: ???????
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 22:26:55
|
||
Message Number 5590
|
||
|
||
Donthen, what's your problem?
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||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: ???????
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 22:30:21
|
||
Message Number 5591
|
||
|
||
Considering the way you are interpreting my messages of late, allow me
|
||
to clarify my last post. It is NOT insulting, derisive, meant to
|
||
offend or any other nasty connotations anyone may wish to read into it
|
||
It is simply a question by which I am seeking information. Namely,
|
||
what is your problem [i.e., in regards to me]. Frankly, I am baffled.
|
||
Is there animosity between us that I should be aware of? You seem to
|
||
be indirectly requiring an apology from me. For what? What have I
|
||
done to you that I am supposed to apologize for? How have I hurt you?
|
||
Please tell me. I, at least, will tell a person when I am offended,
|
||
and why, and then leave it at that. I try not to leave a friend
|
||
guessing, or have a third party try to extricate an apology for me for
|
||
the unspecified offense.
|
||
If this is a board where a person cannot express unpopular
|
||
opinions, why bother to communicate at all? And, honest to God, I
|
||
don't know what you are upset about (I know which message you are
|
||
upset about, but what the heck was in there to trigger anger? None
|
||
was felt here when I wrote it. And don't tell me that that is
|
||
cop-out. It's the truth. And, Donthen, the message wasn't even
|
||
addressed to you. The person it was sent to, has not publicly
|
||
required an apology or even in the text of his messages, seemed at
|
||
all upset; it is YOU who says he is upset, yet YOU are the only one
|
||
expressing that emotion.) In the original message, I expressed
|
||
respect for Turtle and his intelligence. I think he's more than
|
||
capable of fighting his own battles.... do you think he is not?
|
||
Whatever problem you have with me, address it TO me, not to
|
||
someone else. Why do you think I'm lieing in my posts (I read
|
||
'cop-out' as a pretty euphemism for 'lie')?
|
||
Is there really any point in discussing anything with you in regards
|
||
to this subject if I am not to be believed? How long do we continue
|
||
in this stalemate with YOU convinced you're RIGHT (capitals) and I'm
|
||
wrong? This is your territory, if you wish me to disappear, tell me.
|
||
(...contin
|
||
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|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: ???????
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 23:12:21
|
||
Message Number 5592
|
||
|
||
But don't talk around me. I'm not used to being dealt with in so
|
||
round-about a fashion. And you have always struck me as a direct
|
||
individual.
|
||
This is getting quite long, but I'm trying to be up-front with you.
|
||
And, to be honest, you're starting to piss me off. What the heck is
|
||
going on? Please, tell me.
|
||
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|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: ???????
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 23:18:33
|
||
Message Number 5593
|
||
|
||
I don't think I deserved that flame.... did it occur to you that the
|
||
reason those messages were "round-about," not directed at you and
|
||
pretty general in nature was because THEY WERE INTENDED TO BE?
|
||
|
||
Yes, I was mildly annoyed at the posts both you and Jonboy made after
|
||
setting off your respective flamechains (his about Christianity, yours
|
||
about conservative-bashing) that were essentially "Gosh, I was just
|
||
amazed at the reaction I got, let's sweep it under the electronic rug
|
||
and go on." And yes, I still believe you took Turtle's post far too
|
||
seriously and shouldn't have been nearly as surprised as you were when
|
||
people told you that, considering you wrote a very vehement spew about
|
||
it that would have been very difficult for anyone on this board NOT to
|
||
take seriously.
|
||
|
||
However, I was writing about general debating tactics because, well,
|
||
that's the subject that came up. The statements could have as easily
|
||
been applied to Jonboy's "It's so swell how I got things going again"
|
||
message. They also could be extremely easily applied to cartoonists
|
||
Dan Flahive and Chris Grant, whom I frequently get flamed by on the
|
||
Rowrbrazzle BBS -- in fact, some of it (the part about continuing to
|
||
defend a point, becoming more and more volatile, even when other
|
||
people are only attacking the way the point was stated) was written
|
||
with them in mind more than anyone on this board at all.
|
||
|
||
I apologize if you thought my message to Jonboy was a veiled attack
|
||
against you, but that reaction is somewhat mystifying to me. You
|
||
already knew I thought you were guilty of weedy debating tactics, but
|
||
that's hardly a devastating complaint.
|
||
|
||
As I said, my message sounded general because it WAS general. I'm sorry
|
||
it offended you; it should have, at most, expressed a distaste for
|
||
a method of "debating" I see too often on BBS's.
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||
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|
||
|
||
From: SPE11WIND
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: godtalk
|
||
Date & Time: 06/03/90 23:55:00
|
||
Message Number 5594
|
||
|
||
If y0u trace s0me diseases back, they were started by us, in 0ur
|
||
quest t0 better 0urse1ves, we f0rg0t what rea11y c0unted...sigh
|
||
|
||
I wish I had a p0ny...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: Worf? Where?
|
||
Date & Time: 06/04/90 05:04:46
|
||
Message Number 5595
|
||
|
||
>...telling T'Pau she had been suckered by a lowly, illogical human.
|
||
|
||
Well, evidently they didn't have any problems with Kirk, since they
|
||
performed the ancient ceremony of transfering the katra into a person
|
||
(Star Trek III)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: A LL
|
||
Subject: animation
|
||
Date & Time: 06/04/90 05:10:32
|
||
Message Number 5596
|
||
|
||
First of all, I was told by Ken Ober that a bunch of people will be
|
||
heading up to Tampa on the 16th to see "Akira"(sp?) and I was sort of
|
||
invited to tag along. Anyways, if I'm going, I need to know if the date
|
||
above is correct, what time everyone will be meeting at the car pool
|
||
location, when we'll all be back, and (most important) how much it will
|
||
cost...
|
||
|
||
Another animation thing I heard about was that the new film "Rescuers
|
||
Down Under" (out this summer) weill be the first ever animated motion
|
||
picture fully computer-colored. I assume since cartoons are a different
|
||
matter than live action, the result will look MUCH more impressive than
|
||
a colorized movie... they also use more colors.
|
||
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: ???????
|
||
Date & Time: 06/04/90 13:29:49
|
||
Message Number 5597
|
||
|
||
Donthen has been a Dip for a ew days now -- Nooke knows why! :)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: ???????
|
||
Date & Time: 06/04/90 13:33:31
|
||
Message Number 5598
|
||
|
||
Gee, Ken, my typing is getting bad as of late! Duh! EEEwwww....
|
||
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|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: PARTY!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 06/04/90 17:22:20
|
||
Message Number 5600
|
||
|
||
If we could find some extension cords, an electrical outlet, and find
|
||
a way to keep all the bugs away, and cool the beach down, it would be
|
||
fine.
|
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|
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|