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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
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To: YNGLING
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Subject: Questions...
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 09:05:03
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Message Number 5051
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The Yngling-
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I'm not sure, but at least one Estonian here will miss Sammy.
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Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
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To: YNGLING
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Subject: Correction
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 09:07:32
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Message Number 5052
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Harumph!
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
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To: RUFUS
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Subject: skirts
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 09:10:35
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Message Number 5053
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Capital-why ee ess comma bee you tea space Capital-gee oh dee space
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ell oh vee ee ess space why oh you period
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Capital-See period Capital-Pee period Capital-you period
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Griffin dormant
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 09:13:57
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Message Number 5054
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Just in the past two days, someone was trying to simultaneously
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convert me to astrology and Christianity, I've been told that I've been
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put on the equivalent of probation (and didn't know it -- and haven't
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yet failed a contract...), when I was going to give a recorder lesson,
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I walked in on my fellow students all in medieval costume, giving a
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lecture; and there were peope outside my door flinging ice cream,
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chocolate syrup, nuts (both chopped peanuts and chopped walnuts), and
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cherries at each other.
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Ghods!
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: New Subject:
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 09:24:38
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Message Number 5055
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Dear Jonboy,
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Would a loving God create his "highest form of life" so that they
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couldn't understand Him/Her at all? (Granted: there might be parts
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that we can't understand -- simply by being creation, rather than
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creators.)
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The problem of evil is a serious one -- and has existed for many
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millenia...
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Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
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To: CHIP P. UNICORN
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Subject: Troi
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 11:55:07
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Message Number 5057
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I mean't permanently green, but I suppose a connection could be made
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between green women and bad cooking.
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- Corwyn
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
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To: CHIP P. UNICORN
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Subject: generous
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 11:58:45
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Message Number 5058
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Bush is enough of an idiot, he could very well be a born again christian
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(no offense Chip, honest) Never heard of Jimmy being a born again
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christian, maybe he was one of the few that didn't make a fool of him-
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self regularly. If he isn't an imbecile about it, the president can be
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any religion he wants in my book. Now Reagan.. "Yes, yes, let's have
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prayer in the schools" << What a Schmuck!
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- Corwyn
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
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To: CHIP P. UNICORN
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Subject: ST & ST:TNG
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 12:01:20
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Message Number 5059
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Kill Riker & Wesley in a funny way, like a homosexual love spat, with
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Wesley being so distraught he blows hiself and Riker... yeahh that's it!
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- Corwyn
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
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To: DONTHEN
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Subject: ST & ST:TNG
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 12:03:25
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Message Number 5060
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Wesley just needs to be a /real/ kid that get's annoyed by saying "Yes
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sir, Captain sir!" every once in a while. I'd actually like to see him
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get pissed and kick Riker in the jaw. (Give the guy a few hours practice
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and I'm sure he could pull off a decent crescent kick) -- write in himj
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learning martial arts somehow... makes him less of a smart little geek
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that gets thrown in the plot-line every once in a while when they need
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a boy wonder. Stage a good fist-fight... or else just have him do some-
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thing other than be a complete brat or sickly respectful.
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- Corwyn
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
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To: DONTHEN
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Subject: Arrgh!
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 12:11:45
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Message Number 5061
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Swords against ............
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Fill in the blank.. I loved Leiber's originality on the titles.
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But you're right in my book, I've never read anyone who "Did the barb-
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aric fantasy thing" better than him. Well.. maybe Brian Daley with
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"Doomfarers of Coramonde" and the sequel: Starfarers, but he was a
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little bit more complex, so probably shouldn't be thrown into the the
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same catagory. - On that note, there's a Lin Carter series I never
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finished.. one of them was "Hurok of the Stone Age" continued on with
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"XXXX of the Bronze Age" et al.. but I haven't ever run into any of the
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others.. anybody? anybody?
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- Corwyn
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From: SPELLWIND
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To: THRUD
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Subject: Smithsonian?
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 12:30:13
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Message Number 5062
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Smithsonian?
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From: SPELLWIND
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To: CORWYN OF AMBER
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Subject: Troi
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 12:34:00
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Message Number 5063
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He meant to say Greek.
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From: SPELLWIND
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To: BLACK MAGIC
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Subject: --
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 12:34:54
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Message Number 5064
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I told you I dropped out three years ago. I'm occasionally working on
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my GED though.
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From: SPELLWIND
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: To Angel
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 12:39:05
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Message Number 5065
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Or become a GLOW girl.
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From: SPELLWIND
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To: KEN OBER
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Subject: ST & ST:TNG
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 12:40:53
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Message Number 5066
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So it doesn't matter that there are hundreds of innocent people on the
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ship, as long as Picard dies with honor?
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Any honorable person will agree that to save lives of innocents is
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more honorable than killing them by fighting.
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From: SPELLWIND
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To: RUFUS
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Subject: skirts
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 12:44:57
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Message Number 5067
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I think fall.
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From: SPELLWIND
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To: RUFUS
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Subject: skirts
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 12:46:40
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Message Number 5068
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I HATE Boggle!! WORST GAME IN THE WORLD! UNIVERSE! BEYOND!!!
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whew. A Boggle hating Spellwind dude.
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From: SPELLWIND
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To: THRUD
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Subject: green women
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 12:50:39
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Message Number 5070
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Jane Fonda is a blue woman
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From: SPELLWIND
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To: RUFUS
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Subject: Arnold
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 12:53:05
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Message Number 5071
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Why don't you all leave Arnold Schwarandpeacewasagoodbookbutnotmystyle
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ilikesomethingabitmorefastpacedandadventurousereidonthavetolistentowin
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ger alone?
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From: SPELLWIND
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To: YNGLING
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Subject: -
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 13:05:56
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Message Number 5072
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I'll take a gander at this one.
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Paint Your w
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W
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Wagon
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From: SPELLWIND
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: YOU
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 13:17:35
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Message Number 5073
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What the HELL are you talking about?
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From: SPELLWIND
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: FUCK YOU
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 13:22:31
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Message Number 5074
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The subjct says it all. Who do you think you are analyzing me? I have
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said this before, just not here. I think YOU are overconfident.
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From: CRYSTAL
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To: YNGLING
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Subject: Puzzles...
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 13:32:18
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Message Number 5075
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I was raised a Catholic and to be honest with you I could only
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guess. I would probably guess yes. Because you knew it was a sin to
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eat meat on that day. Their for you knew you were sinning so you know
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you will burn in Hell. The same question could be asked about marriage.
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When the priest dies are you still married? Something my dad asked my
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mom when the priest died that married them. He was raised Protestent.
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* CRYSTAL *
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From: TURTLE
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To: THRUD
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Subject: Liberalism
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 16:01:44
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Message Number 5078
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>You don't (gasp!) associate yourself with the likes of fonda and
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>liberals do you ?
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Ahem! The sysop of this board IS a liberal, thank you very much!
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That DOESN'T imply any sort of identity with Jane Fonda; I happen to
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think that she's a pathetic, simpering, self-important little idiot
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whose actions during the Viet Nam War were utterly inexcusable.
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Believing that all liberals are made from the Jane Fonda mold is
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rather like believing that all conservatives are brainless prats like
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Dan Quayle or greedy, self-serving hypocrites like Pat Robertson.
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I /will/ state, as a general rule, that I find most liberals to be
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less offensive than most conservatives; liberals are less likely to
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force their morality on me, believe that wanton destruction of
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everything around them is a neat-o thing to do if you can find a way
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to profit from it, or in general behave in unacceptable and reckless
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manners that are immediately hazardous to my freedom and my physical
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well-being than are liberals. Conservatives are generally more
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insecure and reactive as a whole than liberals are, as well--if they're
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not whining about burning in Hell for listening to rock music, they're
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screaming that the Commies are gonna invade us any day now if we don't
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get 'em first. Hey, it's an imperfect world.
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--A liberal Turtle
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From: TURTLE
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: JW & You
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 16:23:29
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Message Number 5079
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We get the occasional odd Jehovah's Witness through drive-through
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at McDonalds, and some of 'em can really use a little misdirected
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hostility. We got one person recently who was so persistent in
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witnessing for the Lord on McOpCo property that the manager
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kindly and patiently explained to her that McDonald's does not
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permit that sort of activity on its premesis and has, in fact, had
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people arrested for distributing religious propaganda, then suggested
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that she find a better place to stuff her literature. It wasn't until
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the last that she took the hint.
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From: TURTLE
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: IBMs
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 16:27:04
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Message Number 5080
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Any news yet on the next chapter of the "Apple sues Microsoft for
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stealing Finder's 'look' and Xerox sues Apple for stealing the
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SmallTalk 'look'" thing? I'm always rather amused by Apple's remarkable
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arrogance when they try to convince everyone that they started the
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windows-icons-and-mice bit when everyone who's anyone knows that
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Xerox gave Apple the idea...
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From: TURTLE
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To: JONBOY
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Subject: Simple Subject
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 16:30:46
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Message Number 5081
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>...I'm havin a hard time keepin my motivation up for this - gimmee
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>a simple subject...
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Hmm. I'm afraid I'm fresh out of 'em at the moment. I'm starting to get
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kinda burned out on the debate-the-unprovable bit myself, though...
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From: TURTLE
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To: CHIP P. UNICORN
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Subject: New Subject:
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 16:37:13
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Message Number 5082
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>Would a loving God create his "highest form of life" so that they
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>couldn't understand him/her at all?
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Now there's an arrogant attitude for you! Perhaps God would never
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/dream/ of such a thing, but God hasn't created the highest form
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of life yet. The tool he uses to create life is evolution, and it
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hasn't finished yet.
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"Extinction is the destiny of all species...It is the arrogance of
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humanity to assume they are the be-all and end-all of creation."
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--Stephen J. Gould
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From: TURTLE
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To: -ALL-
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Subject: Religion (?)
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 16:43:58
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Message Number 5084
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Excerpted from OMNI, June 1990:
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"The times have changed, and so have witches and other practitioners of
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pagan religions. Where once they could be counted on to concoct a brew
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of herbs, today's witches, warlocks, and other pagans are just as likely
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to prepare a potion of bits, bytes, and binary code...[T]he largest
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occupational groupings of pagan practitioners include computer pro-
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grammers, software developers, and systems analysts."
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What? Not members of heavy-metal groups?
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From: DONTHEN
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: New Subject:
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 17:38:09
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Message Number 5085
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Of course, Stevie Gould's only problem is that everything he writes has
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the anthropologically equivalent undertone of everything that Bob
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Dylan sings: "I'm Stephen J. Gould and you're not." He will talk about
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everything from fossils to, one suspects, way of spreading brie cheese
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on crackers as if all the conclusions have already been reached, he
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knows them, and now that he's shared them with you, end of debate--if
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you think he should even allow doubt, much less consider the possibility
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that he's, well, wrong, then you're obviously a deluded, nonscientific
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Creationist technophobe. Evolution IS still "just a theory," especially
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when you consider how many different ways people claim the process may
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work. I have seen so many columns where he blithely dismisses any
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interpretation of evolutionary data that runs counter to his own that
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it's kind of turned me off to the guy; he acts as if God came down to
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him, handed him all the noted He made during creation, and thoughtfully
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gave him conclusive proof of His Own Non-Existence on the way out.
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Being one of those weird sf types, I *like* "what if" scenarios, and I
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don't like having Mr. Gould tell me "well, you're an idiot" if one of
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those scenarios involves the question, "what if evolution doesn't work
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quite the way the 1990's scientific community thinks it does?" After
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all, they don't think it works the same way the 1950's community did,
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and chances are, the 2030's community will have an entirely new twist
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that nobody around now, including Stephen J. Gould, will know about. He
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is the scientific equivalent of George Will: a very good writer of
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nonfiction, a good explicator of his chosen field and an admirable man
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in many respects, but a pompous twit nonetheless.
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From: DONTHEN
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Blue women
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 17:47:26
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Message Number 5086
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>> Jane Fonda is a blue woman.
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> Jane Fonda is a twit.
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Therefore, Jane Fonda is a blue, female twit? If you made a point here,
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or in your last anti-Jane spew, it must not have made it out of the
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message save routine. A whole lot of pointLESS ad hominem attacks seem
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to have replaced them, making the whole thing sound like one of Dan
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Flahive's (in)famous Earth First! spews on the Rowrbrazzle BBS.
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
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To: SPELLWIND
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Subject: Troi
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 17:58:51
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Message Number 5087
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Thanks for cluing me in Spellwind... I had no idea.
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- A "Gee, you're so helpful" Corwyn
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: IBMs
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 18:03:28
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Message Number 5088
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> when everyone who's anyone knows that Xerox gave Apple the idea...
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Give is a kind word to use... maybe: "Xerox had their technology
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blatently stolen by Apple. I don't have a problem with Apple claiming
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that they have a right to use the interface, just that they claim owner-
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ship to it, and refuse the rights of anyone else to use the GUI concept.
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- Corwyn
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
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To: *.?
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Subject: DESQview/X
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 18:12:15
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Message Number 5089
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Quarterdeck has announced that they're developing a version of DESQ-
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view that supports the Xwindows (11) standard. I'll upload a file called
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desqview.arc that has some more info on it.
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- Corwyn
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From: SPELLWIND
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To: DONTHEN
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Subject: Jane Fonda
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 23:02:11
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Message Number 5090
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Gee, all this Jane Fonda ragging and no Sauron to help?
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From: THRUD
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To: SPELLWIND
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Subject: Smithsonian?
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 23:39:44
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Message Number 5091
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nah. watch some ST reruns. hint - I hate it when the Lexington
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makes a run on the Enterprise.
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From: THRUD
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: conservatism
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Date & Time: 05/25/90 23:47:31
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Message Number 5092
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ok ok - I agree not to hang the Jane fonda wrap on you if you
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desist from hanging the Dan Quale albatross on me. I still have
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not idea why George picked that geek for veep - my money says
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we dump him for Jack Kemp next time around.
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I'm glad you just trashed conservatives in general and not me
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in particular last time around - I'd hate to get into a knock down
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drag out with the operator of such an enjoyable board - no matter
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what your political shortcomings are. Incidently, the new
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conservative platform states that you will burn in hell if you
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DON'T listen to rock music. Rappers and dittyboppers beware....
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A Conservative Thrud
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From: YNGLING
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To: TURTLE
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Subject: Whorf
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Date & Time: 05/26/90 00:11:23
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Message Number 5093
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Turtle -
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Whorf couldnt kick my little sisters ass! He hasnt won a fight yet
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(except on the holodeck).
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The Yngling
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From: YNGLING
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: D.T.
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 00:33:42
|
||
Message Number 5094
|
||
|
||
Thrud -
|
||
You dont drink while school's in session?!? My Ghod man, thats the
|
||
most important time to toss back a few! I shudder when I try to
|
||
envision college ( not to mention high school ) without the assistance
|
||
of Dr Daniel's Magic Healing Elixer....get your priorities straight
|
||
dammit!
|
||
The Yngling
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: YNGLING
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: hostility
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 00:42:40
|
||
Message Number 5095
|
||
|
||
Actually, it is my hostile nature which makes me so perfectly suited
|
||
to my vocation.
|
||
The Yngling
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: YNGLING
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: -
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 00:49:36
|
||
Message Number 5096
|
||
|
||
Nope. I dont recall the exact title of the movie (sorry) but it was
|
||
the old black and white "horror" flick from the fifties where the
|
||
"giant" tarantula walks around crushing things...anyway, old squinty
|
||
eyes was the pilot of the bomber which drops the ineffectual bombs
|
||
on the beast and he says one line, something like: Im beginning my
|
||
bombing run. Of course its hard to recognize him with the flight
|
||
helmet & oxygen mask covering most of his face...but its him.
|
||
The Yngling
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Arnold
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 00:59:13
|
||
Message Number 5097
|
||
|
||
YouclaimArnoldsnameisnotthatdifficulttospellbutIhaveyettoseeanyone-
|
||
includingmyselfspellitcorrectlysowetrytohideourspellingdifficiencies-
|
||
behindalameattemptathumorbymakingthenameaslongaspossible.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: phasers
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 01:01:17
|
||
Message Number 5098
|
||
|
||
> ...set phasers on emasculate.
|
||
|
||
OOh, ouch! Well, at least the vocal arrangements should be interesting
|
||
in the 23rd century. Five part harmony: bass, tenor, soprano, alto,
|
||
and castrato.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Wheaton
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 01:13:24
|
||
Message Number 5099
|
||
|
||
Did Wheaton really go to the producers and say 'ENOUGH!' Good for him.
|
||
I always thought Wesley was a twit, but since I've really enjoyed
|
||
Wil Wheaton in everything else I've seen him do, I assumed the
|
||
'twittiness' came from the scripts. I really don't see what purpose
|
||
his character serves in the series. It irks me to see a kid
|
||
hot-rodding the Enterprise through the galaxy. It just reeks of
|
||
'cute', and somehow I never thought Star Fleet Admiralty accepted
|
||
cute ideas for staffing of the flag vessel of their fleet.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: Puzzles...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 01:20:23
|
||
Message Number 5100
|
||
|
||
Eating meat on a Friday was a venial sin, not a mortal one. To die
|
||
with that sin unconfessed (and unabsolved) would just lengthen your
|
||
stretch in purgatory. Those meat-sinners were probably already
|
||
parolled by the time the rules were changed. (Though I believe there
|
||
are still some appeals pending for career-criminal meat-eaters who
|
||
never revealed their sins in confession.)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: What?
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 01:26:49
|
||
Message Number 5101
|
||
|
||
No, I did not receive payment, I am strictly a volunteer over-the-head-
|
||
skirt-flipper (not available for weddings or bar mitzvahs). The promo
|
||
was for "The King And I", a show that will be opening at the Players
|
||
of Sarasota on June 8. I have a pivotal, extremely prominent role in
|
||
the production (I'm the third wife from the left).
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Fonda
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 01:44:07
|
||
Message Number 5102
|
||
|
||
> ...changed her mind about anything as far as political ethics go
|
||
> (which she has, publicly
|
||
|
||
Actually, she didn't publicly announce a change of mind or heart.
|
||
I have the Barbara Walters interview on tape if you would like to
|
||
see it. She did apologize, but the apology was for the pain that
|
||
her actions inflicted, not for the actions. She did admit her
|
||
posing for photos in the gun turrets was not smart. She still stood
|
||
behind her belief that American prisoners were never tortured, though
|
||
she apologized for calling the released prisoners liars (there's
|
||
obviously a logic flaw there). In the interview she expressed pride
|
||
for her involvement with the North Vietnamese and for her stance
|
||
against the American government and is still confirmed in her belief
|
||
that the American bombing of North Vietnam was an illegal act and
|
||
all soldiers who participated were guilty of war crimes.
|
||
Actually, the only thing she was sorry for, was that people are
|
||
still miffed after all these years. I share your opinion that her
|
||
political views should have no bearing on her pursuit of acting.
|
||
Yet, it was her prominence as an actress that garnered so much
|
||
publicity for her 'cause' in the sixties. When you take advantage
|
||
of your position in the public light to draw attention to your
|
||
politics, you've got to expect that people will thereafter link
|
||
your political views to your work.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Liberalism
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 02:05:19
|
||
Message Number 5103
|
||
|
||
Quite a list of negative conservative traits. Sorry, I just can't
|
||
go along with your expressed ideas. You are saying, in general,
|
||
liberals are good and conservatives are bad. Do you really consider
|
||
yourself open-minded on the subject?
|
||
This is one conservative who is fed-up with self-proclaimed
|
||
open-minded liberals who assume that I am evil because I do not
|
||
share their politcal beliefs. The differences between liberals and
|
||
conservatives are based on politics; it is NOT a confrontation between
|
||
good and evil.
|
||
On what do you base your beliefs that only one politcal sect holds
|
||
the copyright on virtue? I'm not being argumentative here. But
|
||
frankly, knowing your level of intelligence and antipathy to prejudice,
|
||
your post frankly shocks me. Try re-reading it, and substituting
|
||
'negro' for conservative and 'white' for liberal, and you'll see that
|
||
that is really on offensive message, one which you would probably
|
||
delete from the board. (We could play this game with any words,
|
||
try 'faggots' and 'real men', 'pro-lifers' and 'pro-choicers',
|
||
ad nauseum).
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: Liberalism
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 08:15:50
|
||
Message Number 5106
|
||
|
||
I did go back and re-read Turtle's post trying to substitute other words
|
||
for "liberal" and "conservative" and it didn't work for much the same
|
||
reason it wouldn't if that had been, say, a Dave Barry column -- the
|
||
attributes he was making light of are tagged to a person's political
|
||
views, not race, sexual preference or what have you. I'd also find his
|
||
post difficult to take as seriously as you apparently did -- for much
|
||
the same reason I'd have had if it had been, say, a Dave Barry column.
|
||
When people are being funny, even to make a point, they are going to
|
||
be exaggerating things. If *you* go back and re-read that message, you
|
||
might notice it's not meant to be taken all that seriously--I sure
|
||
wouldn't, and it's patently obvious Turtle wouldn't, either.
|
||
I suspect the sysop here is one of the more open-minded people you're
|
||
likely to run into. If it was any more open, his brain would fall out.
|
||
Maybe it already has. At any rate, so he's a liberal. He's a liberal
|
||
because he doesn't like conservative politics. He made fun of some of
|
||
the things that can be most offensive about reactionary attitudes. He
|
||
is *not* alone in this. At least he *does* have a sense of humor about
|
||
it; many conservatives I have talked to seem to seriously believe that
|
||
by calling someone a "liberal" in a conversation, you can immediately
|
||
discredit everything they have to say, end of discussion, and that
|
||
anyone who *admits* to being a liberal is slightly to the left of
|
||
Abbie Hoffman. I find this a hell of a lot more offensive than I have
|
||
conservative counterparts to Turtle's spew, which I have seen before--
|
||
but not often. Evidently conservatives lack, in addition to common
|
||
sense, the ability to laugh at themselves.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: Bush
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 09:44:34
|
||
Message Number 5107
|
||
|
||
Hopefully, we won't vote vor him the 'next' time around. He was used
|
||
to being vice president and he Really does next to nothing. I'll
|
||
especially vote third party if there's another mudslinging routine,
|
||
besides, it might do the country some good to get a third party pres.
|
||
You people AREN'T voting for Bob Martinez are you?
|
||
|
||
A sometimes doubtful of his rep. stat Spellwind dude.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: Arnold
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 09:51:43
|
||
Message Number 5108
|
||
|
||
I told you the spelling, yet you do not use it! I accost thee!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: Wheaton
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 09:54:41
|
||
Message Number 5109
|
||
|
||
You've seen wheaton in another role?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: What?
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 09:56:13
|
||
Message Number 5110
|
||
|
||
How about bachelor parties?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: Liberalism
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 14:41:21
|
||
Message Number 5111
|
||
|
||
> Try re-reading it, and substituting 'negro' for conservative, and
|
||
> 'white' for liberal.
|
||
|
||
You can't make this substitution without changing the entire content of
|
||
the message, giving it no relation to the original message.
|
||
Conservative and Liberal are terms to describe a persons attitudes,
|
||
while 'negro' and 'white' simply describe a person's skin color.
|
||
|
||
If I posted a message saying that, in general, I like Anarchists better
|
||
than fascists, would you say it was offensive. I would not be saying
|
||
that all fascists are terrible, evil poeple, just that I believe Anarch-
|
||
ists tend to be slightly nicer people than fascists.
|
||
|
||
I don't persecute people because they are conservative, and I don't
|
||
believe Turtle does either, however, if someone wants to support George
|
||
Bush, Dan Quayle, et al.. /then/ I will confront them, and attempt to
|
||
show them the light of the liberal way.. (just kidding)
|
||
|
||
- Corwyn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: New Subject:
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 16:04:48
|
||
Message Number 5113
|
||
|
||
So what's your point? Mr. Gould's remark on the arrogance of Homo
|
||
sapiens sapiens still has some bearing on the discussion at hand.
|
||
(An idea is valid or invalid on its own merits, regardless of the
|
||
source...)
|
||
Pthpth!
|
||
--A valid Turtle
|
||
By the way, what do you /really/ think of him?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Blue women
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 16:06:46
|
||
Message Number 5114
|
||
|
||
Yes, but you don't understand. Jane Fonda is a twit.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: conservatism
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 16:15:22
|
||
Message Number 5115
|
||
|
||
>Ok ok - I agree not to hang the Jane fonda wrap on you if you agree
|
||
>not to hang the Dan Quayle albatross on me.
|
||
|
||
Hey, that reminds me of this poem I read once. There was this guy, see,
|
||
and he was on a boat, and there was this albatross following him.
|
||
Anyway, the guy killed the albatross (musta been an NRA member--I
|
||
wonder if he used armor-piercing shells?) and, like, some really un-
|
||
groovy things happened to him. Anyway, what was my point?
|
||
Oh yeah. Equating all liberals with the Jane Fonda school of
|
||
political expression is probably approximately as invalid as equating
|
||
all conservatives with the Dan Quayle school of foot-in-mouthism.
|
||
Yeah, that musta been it.
|
||
--A still liberal Turtle
|
||
The road to enlightenment, Grasshopper, begins with a single mixed
|
||
metaphor. The rest are available on an easy payment plan.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: Whorf
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 16:21:06
|
||
Message Number 5116
|
||
|
||
>Whorf couldnt kick my little sisters ass!
|
||
|
||
Yes, but would you let her date him?
|
||
|
||
>He hasn't won a fight yet...
|
||
|
||
Actually, that isn't really true, although he seems not to get into
|
||
brawls quite as regularly as Kirk did. Whorf brings a "conflict is the
|
||
last measure one should take to solve a problem" mentality with him into
|
||
the security thing, which is kind of interesting. And the new Enterprise
|
||
could turn the old Enterprise into space dust before it knew what
|
||
happened...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: Liberalism
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 16:32:22
|
||
Message Number 5117
|
||
|
||
>Try re-reading it...and you'll see that this is really on offensive
|
||
>message, one which you would probably delete from the board.
|
||
|
||
Hmm? Delete an offensive message from the public eye because I don't
|
||
agree with it? What a remarkably...well, conservative idea. I don't
|
||
engage in censorship, ever.
|
||
|
||
At any rate, I'm actually rather surprised that you actually found that
|
||
message offensive (!), and even more astonished that you would seroiusly
|
||
consider it on par with, say, racism (I did the "substitute the word
|
||
"negro" for "conservative" thing, and it didn't make any sense. Did
|
||
you?)...or for that matter, take it seriously at all. No, I don't
|
||
automatically consider all liberals "good" (re-read the bits about Jane
|
||
Fonda) or all conservatives "evil;" no, I don't refuse to associate
|
||
with conservatives or anything equally silly. I was also going to
|
||
respond to your message in a much more lighthearted fashion until
|
||
I hit the bit about deleting the original; ironically, that is EXACTLY
|
||
the sort of "I don't like it--get rid of it" attitude that actually
|
||
DOES turn me off the conservative ideal. (There's something remarkably
|
||
poetic there...) Anyway, the upshot of this rather incoherent message
|
||
is that if you took the original seriously (and I was relieved to note
|
||
that the person at whom it was aimed did not), you deserved to.
|
||
--A liberal and anti-censorship Turtle
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Liberalism
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 20:32:32
|
||
Message Number 5118
|
||
|
||
> ... conservatives I have talked to seem to seriously believe that
|
||
> by calling a someone a "liberal" ... you can immediately discredit
|
||
> everything they have to say.
|
||
|
||
And I find that attitude offensive as well. Turtle's message seems
|
||
to be the same attitude, except aimed in a different direction. And,
|
||
yes, I am humorless about negative stereotypes of all kind. It's
|
||
most disturbing in people that I know to be intelligent and
|
||
well-versed in current topics, such as the great hard-shelled one.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Arnold
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 20:36:28
|
||
Message Number 5119
|
||
|
||
> I told you the spelling, yet you do not use it! I accost thee!
|
||
|
||
I accost thee in return, sir. You misspelled it in your correction,
|
||
check the message.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: TURTLE,DONTHEN,ET AL
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 20:47:16
|
||
Message Number 5120
|
||
|
||
"In general, I find whites less offensive than most blacks ... or in
|
||
general behave in unacceptable and reckless manners that are
|
||
immediately hazardous to my freedom and my physical well being than
|
||
are whites. Blacks are in general, more insecure and reactive as a
|
||
whole than whites are, as well."
|
||
|
||
Substitution worked for me. You don't find this strange? Jimmy the
|
||
Greek got fired for less, and our least favorite 60 minutes
|
||
commentator got suspended for far less.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: censorship
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 20:51:44
|
||
Message Number 5121
|
||
|
||
When talking censorship, I was thinking more of the Den than Altered
|
||
Reality .... was recalling times back when Donthen was in objection
|
||
to the faggot-bashing posts. Believe he deleted several from
|
||
general reading. Does this make him a conservative?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 20:55:51
|
||
Message Number 5122
|
||
|
||
The substitution parses, but makes no sense out of context. Do you also
|
||
do this to George Carlin routines? I have seen Turtle's message pass by
|
||
the monitor several times and still find it difficult to understand how
|
||
it can be taken so deadly seriously. Yes, it's probable that us flaming
|
||
liberals see a grain of truth in what he was saying -- if we didn't, we
|
||
wouldn't be liberals.
|
||
I don't honestly see how this can be considered "conservative
|
||
bashing." It pales in comparison to even mild flame wars I've been
|
||
involved in, is patently, obviously tongue-in-cheek ("...believe that
|
||
wanton destruction of the environment is a neat-o keen thing to do" is
|
||
Jay Leno commentary, not Walter Cronkite), and when it comes right down
|
||
to it, isn't even nice to liberals. It says they're LESS LIKELY to do
|
||
those things than conservatives are.
|
||
This entire chain is following the same logic people use when they
|
||
say "The Desert Peach" (a comic about Rommel's homosexual half-brother)
|
||
is either denigrating to gays or teaches our children The Wrong Values,
|
||
depending on whether the attacker is more liberal or more conservative.
|
||
What's wrong with poking fun at conservatives? God knows I've had to
|
||
put up with a lot much more mean-spirited comments when I make such
|
||
patently liberal statements as "wouldn't making flag-burning illegal
|
||
be contrary to the ideals of the Bill of Rights?" When a conservative
|
||
who wants to "attack" me shows as much creativity as Turtle's post did,
|
||
not to mention a decided lack of venom, I'm usually glad, considering
|
||
the alternatives I've seen.
|
||
By the way, if you got really offended when you read Jonathon
|
||
Swift's "A Modest Proposal", he didn't really want to cook the babies.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: censorship
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 21:06:53
|
||
Message Number 5123
|
||
|
||
The only message I have ever deleted from my board was one from Sauron
|
||
to you which exceeded my personal vulgarity quotient. It was not in
|
||
the homosexuality debate. Some of those messages were lost in a disk
|
||
crash.
|
||
Actually, that's not true. I deleted some of my own messages in that
|
||
chain, before anyone read them, because I thought they were too nasty
|
||
with respect to one or two people. The only thing I would not tolerate
|
||
on my board, and will probably never tolerate, are pointless ad
|
||
hominem attacks on specific other users. This does not make me a
|
||
censor, conservative, liberal or otherwise.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 21:45:15
|
||
Message Number 5124
|
||
|
||
While you may be very serious about negative stereotypes, (and ethnic
|
||
jokes can be a nasty contributor to this) there is still such a thing as
|
||
overreaction. Turtle's message, even taken completetly seriously, was
|
||
/still/ describing people in terms of their philosophies, /not/ in terms
|
||
of some uncontrollable characteristic. By substiting "Negro" <- which is
|
||
in itself a loaded term, and "White" You are taking liberties with his
|
||
message. Doing so has about as much relevance as substitutuing the same
|
||
words for "cherry
|
||
" and "chocoloate" in this sentence:
|
||
I like cherry, but I can't stand chocolate.
|
||
In a nutshell, as Donthen pointed out earlier.. Turtle is a very open-
|
||
minded person about almost anything except MS-DOS. Failure to recognize
|
||
humor on this board can be dangerous to your sensibilities.
|
||
|
||
|
||
- Corwyn
|
||
|
||
"There are two kinds of fool:
|
||
One says, 'This is old, and therefore good.'
|
||
One says, 'This is new, and therefore better.' "
|
||
- Bruce Sterling "The Shockwave Rider"
|
||
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|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Bill & Ted
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 22:26:13
|
||
Message Number 5125
|
||
|
||
> Jason
|
||
|
||
Hey, dude, does this mean you like to make living-dead axe murderers
|
||
your role models?
|
||
|
||
> They're basically the same as Bill & Ted
|
||
|
||
Never thought of it that way...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 22:43:26
|
||
Message Number 5126
|
||
|
||
> You won't see aSt movie until after a TNG movie...
|
||
|
||
Theoreticaly, yeah, but they are trying REALLY hard to get something in
|
||
production for ST's 25th Anniversary (Fall 1991)... ST:TNG will be on
|
||
for around five or six seasons. After that, they may be doing a TNG
|
||
movie in 1994... There is NO way they will be doing an original Trek
|
||
movie that far in the future. The original cast is getting too old to do
|
||
a movie in 1994 or 1995. Concievably, one of the cast members may have
|
||
died by then.
|
||
Actually, there has been a big controversy in Trek fandom over a
|
||
supposed "Academy Days" movie. This may be a cover up to hide a movie
|
||
in production. Paramount actually wants to make the movie, but Gene
|
||
Roddenberry doesn't want them to do the Academy thing.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 22:50:56
|
||
Message Number 5127
|
||
|
||
> GEY WARP ENGINES THAT ARE RELIABLE ALREADY...
|
||
|
||
They are reliable...
|
||
|
||
> (Get a cloaking device, too...)
|
||
|
||
No can do, dude. It just won't happen. NO Federation ship uses
|
||
cloaking devices. Actually, ships like the Enterprise don't need them.
|
||
The ships that use them (Klingon Bird Of Prey, Romulan Warbird) are for
|
||
combat, not exploration. There isn't a reason to get a cloaking device
|
||
on the Enterprise.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: brain usage
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 23:04:12
|
||
Message Number 5128
|
||
|
||
> love the cleavage queen.
|
||
|
||
Troi? Yes, she's quite an interesting character, and interesting to
|
||
look at.
|
||
|
||
> I could do without wes...
|
||
|
||
I dunno why, but I've always liked Wesley. Sometimes, the writers throw
|
||
the idea out into left field, it is a neat thing. They're doing better
|
||
with him this season.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 23:16:01
|
||
Message Number 5129
|
||
|
||
> and they cloak /all/ of THEIR ships...
|
||
|
||
BZZZTT! Wrong, dude! Think back to the original Trek series. The
|
||
original Klingon ships weren't cloaked. Also, I'd like you to point out
|
||
the episode where someone says, "All Klingon and Romulan ships have
|
||
cloaking devices."
|
||
|
||
> because they get attacked every other episode...
|
||
|
||
The Enterprise gets attacked in less than 1/3 of the episodes. Besides
|
||
that, the cloaking devices would cause the ever-annoyed Romulans to
|
||
think the Federation is covertly sneaking into the Neutral Zone or some
|
||
thing like that. Not too good when negotiating peace.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: brain usage
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 23:23:09
|
||
Message Number 5130
|
||
|
||
> Whorf
|
||
That's Worf.
|
||
> --A Star Trek Turtle
|
||
That's interesting to know...
|
||
> I want to congratulate the man who designed her uniform...
|
||
Add me to that list, also put me on the list to fire the guy who
|
||
designed her uniform from the first season (the green one)..
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: skirts
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 23:27:42
|
||
Message Number 5131
|
||
|
||
> Watch for Aliens III
|
||
|
||
Do you think that this new sequel will remain faithful to the first two
|
||
films, or do you think that someone is going to turn it into blood-and-
|
||
guts-for-fun?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Spelling
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 23:31:34
|
||
Message Number 5132
|
||
|
||
> It's Schwarznegger.
|
||
|
||
No, it's Schwarzenegger.=
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: brain usage
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 23:34:10
|
||
Message Number 5133
|
||
|
||
> Triv:
|
||
|
||
Wasn't it the Daystrom institute??
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Troi
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 23:36:26
|
||
Message Number 5134
|
||
|
||
>> Green women are usually very beautiful women.
|
||
|
||
I think you messed up.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 23:41:26
|
||
Message Number 5135
|
||
|
||
> Romulans don't do the research thing.
|
||
|
||
WRONG!
|
||
|
||
> "They're a research vessel, so we can threaten to fire on 'em."
|
||
|
||
Oh, okay, so point out this episode. Also, don't point out any episode
|
||
unless you can get a quote similar to the one you made.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: skirts
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 23:44:00
|
||
Message Number 5136
|
||
|
||
> or is it Alien III or Alienses?
|
||
|
||
Well, technically it should be Alien III. The fact that the second
|
||
title wasn't the same as the first didn't stop the idiot who named
|
||
"Rambo III"...
|
||
|
||
Alien III will be out in summer 1991, along with Terminator II
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Arnold
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 23:49:50
|
||
Message Number 5137
|
||
|
||
>...oop OP oop OP OP, oop OP walla walla bing bang
|
||
|
||
Don't you know ANYTHING? It's "ooh-ee, ooh-ah-ah, bing bang, walla
|
||
walla bing bang."
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: skirts II
|
||
Date & Time: 05/26/90 23:53:37
|
||
Message Number 5138
|
||
|
||
> Siscal and Ubert...sequals...ect. all.
|
||
I hate when people misspell etc.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 00:21:50
|
||
Message Number 5139
|
||
|
||
Look, it is good to have anyways....If the enterprise was /just/
|
||
for exploration, then why have PHOTON TORPEDOS and PHASERS!? They
|
||
could just add the cloaking device as part of their defense...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: DWEEBS and TNG!
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 00:24:10
|
||
Message Number 5140
|
||
|
||
Ack! I never knew you were capable of writing such as [In Bart Voice]
|
||
ssssssssssstttuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupiiiiiid message!
|
||
|
||
Anyways, name an episode where they say all the birds of prey have
|
||
cloaking devices -- THE ROMULANS HAVE CLOAKING, THE KLINGONS HAVE
|
||
CLOAKING, WHY CAN'T THE FEDERATION!? sheesh!
|
||
|
||
> Not too good when negotiating peace.
|
||
|
||
A defensive weapon isn't good? The best offense is a good defense!
|
||
That's why the cold war is over, dude....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 00:28:57
|
||
Message Number 5141
|
||
|
||
Derek, you are an ... well, I won't say ... ANyways, name an episode
|
||
where the Romulans did the research thing.....
|
||
|
||
> Oh, okay, so point out this episode. Also, don't point out any episod
|
||
> unless you can get a quote similar to the one you made.
|
||
|
||
Beatle, you're an ... Never mind -- Okay, THINK ABOUT IT! Picard
|
||
/always/ runs away from war ships -- But look at him and /research/
|
||
ship or ships with little weaponry -- He threatens to go and blow them
|
||
across the galaxy if they don't get out of his way -- YOU GO LOOK
|
||
for the episode -- I have a life, and I don't devote it to watching
|
||
reruns of TNG.....You have them all memorized anyways.....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Poem
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 01:04:03
|
||
Message Number 5142
|
||
|
||
The Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Also an Iron Maiden song. For a god
|
||
of love and mercy, he killed ALOT of people in that rime poem thing dude
|
||
|
||
An Iron Maiden Headbanging Spellwind dude.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: Arnold
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 01:08:26
|
||
Message Number 5143
|
||
|
||
So I forgot an 'E', I accost thee!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 01:14:26
|
||
Message Number 5144
|
||
|
||
You read Starlog too, eh? (I get it with my Fangoria, Gorezone(sister
|
||
mags to SL, Fango's past it's 11th ann.) I wouldn't accept less)
|
||
|
||
I DONT like the Academy idea.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: ST
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 01:19:03
|
||
Message Number 5145
|
||
|
||
Yo! I LIKED seeing Sarek again! You think they'll follow through with
|
||
the Spock appearance on one show?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Aliens III
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 01:20:28
|
||
Message Number 5146
|
||
|
||
I honestly think many want the movie to stay true, but I believe some
|
||
AIC (asshole in charge) will make it B&G. I'll be disappointed, but I'll
|
||
still watch it. I DOUBT they'll star Sig Weaver.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 01:25:38
|
||
Message Number 5147
|
||
|
||
Phasers are Very effective in clearing a planetside of buiuldings, etc
|
||
. Example: The world is going to implode, shooting planetparts across
|
||
the galaxy. The planet is empty, but a LARGE implosive is in an abando-
|
||
ned building. ZTRWW! The implosive is gone and the nearby planets are
|
||
saved.
|
||
Heh!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: Whorf
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 01:41:36
|
||
Message Number 5148
|
||
|
||
Worf hasn't had many fights on away missions. If one erupts, it is
|
||
usually stopped. The purpose of Starfleet is to promote peace, not
|
||
violcence. Worf is a Klingon. If you were to tell a Klingon that he
|
||
couldn't kick your little sister's ass, then you would be sorry for the
|
||
rest of your two minutes of life.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: What?
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 01:46:03
|
||
Message Number 5149
|
||
|
||
Okay, then, what does flapping your skirt over your head have to do
|
||
with "The King And I"?? Forgive me if it has something to do with the
|
||
plot, I don't know it.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Wheaton
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 01:49:49
|
||
Message Number 5150
|
||
|
||
> You've seen wheaton in another role?
|
||
|
||
Did you see the movie "Stand By Me"? He was in that. He was also in a
|
||
couple low budget horror flicks. I can't remember offhand what else he's
|
||
done ...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 02:00:25
|
||
Message Number 5151
|
||
|
||
> add the cloaking device as part of their defense...
|
||
|
||
Well, phasers and photon torpedos are useless unless you de-cloak. All
|
||
the time the Enterprise takes to de-cloak would leave them vulnerable.
|
||
Also, they would mainly need it to avoid Romulans. Remember, the
|
||
Romulans invented it. They could detect an inferior version quite easily
|
||
...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: DWEEBS and TNG!
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 02:03:29
|
||
Message Number 5152
|
||
|
||
Would you tell me why the message was stupid? Anyways, the Romulans
|
||
are notorious for overreacting. If a Federation starship came anywhere
|
||
near Romulan space, they would probably assume it was an act of war.
|
||
Well, they would also assume that if the ship was uncloaked too...
|
||
|
||
By the way, I never said that ALL the Birds of Prey had cloaking
|
||
devices... as a matter of fact, lemme look at my message.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: DWEEBS and TNG!
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 02:07:36
|
||
Message Number 5153
|
||
|
||
Just as I thought, I said nothing about Birds of Prey...
|
||
Anyway, if you pay attention to the goings-on, the Federation takes
|
||
this stance on the Romulan situation: don't provoke them. Picard has
|
||
gone out of his way to avoid a battle between themselves and Romulan
|
||
ships.
|
||
|
||
I don't know why the Federation can't cloak, maybe they just won't.
|
||
Anyways, look at it this way: What use is the cloak? If they are cloaked
|
||
while exploring, then they will be [supposedly] invisible to an enemy.
|
||
The Federation can detect a cloaking device. The Romulans should be able
|
||
to. The cloaking device MAY be useful in dealing with the Ferengi, or a
|
||
less-advanced enemy, but give me a practical scenario where the cloaking
|
||
device comes in handy.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 02:13:19
|
||
Message Number 5154
|
||
|
||
No, I don't have them memorized. Anyway, you got yourself into the mess
|
||
by making your claims. I responded and asked where you came up with it.
|
||
What did you expect?
|
||
Anyway, the Romulans did the "research thing" in an episode called
|
||
"Contagion". They were interested in the planet that the Federation was
|
||
studying.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: ST
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 02:16:45
|
||
Message Number 5155
|
||
|
||
They already tried doing the Spock thing. Leonard Nimoy required an
|
||
outrageous fee, and they wouldn't pay it. I could dig up the Starlog I
|
||
read it in.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Aliens III
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 02:18:07
|
||
Message Number 5156
|
||
|
||
> I DOUBT they'll star Sig Weaver.
|
||
|
||
That sounds logical. Maybe the heroine of the new film will be Newt.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: skirts III
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 02:31:13
|
||
Message Number 5157
|
||
|
||
Perhaps you should teack my Engish class... It is worse than English
|
||
101. I go to Ringling, were english is a foriegn language. I may not
|
||
be able to spell correctly but I can read and write. I agree that
|
||
there is an illiterasy (sp.) problem in the U.S., but I read about
|
||
three books a day. I just never have concentrated on my spelling.
|
||
I am more of a concept type of person. I look at the whole picture,
|
||
not each individual word. I geuss Ill never be a CPA...
|
||
Oh well, what will the world do now?
|
||
Perhaps there will be a movie called "Spelling III", Jason takes
|
||
over Junior High... pretty scary, put I have my 5 bucks ready!
|
||
|
||
Ill work on it (sp) though
|
||
Arnold SwartzenTree... no one else can spell his
|
||
name, so maybe we should hold a spelling bee!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TREE BEARD
|
||
To: TREE BEARD
|
||
Subject: revision
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 02:41:01
|
||
Message Number 5158
|
||
|
||
>perhaps you should TEACH
|
||
>three books a WEEK
|
||
>ILLITERACY
|
||
>SWARTZINEGER
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 02:54:50
|
||
Message Number 5159
|
||
|
||
He didn't really want to cook the babies? Damn! And I had the
|
||
protest letter all typed up and ready to be sent. Hey, Donthen,
|
||
Turtle, lighten up. Did I say I was deadly serious ... no, YOU did.
|
||
I must admit, I'm delighted with all the response to the post (this
|
||
is the most mail I've ever received). You all seem to think I'm
|
||
pissed; I'm not. I said I found the statements offensive, that
|
||
doesn't mean I'm mad. (Gee, and I'm the one being called humorless!)
|
||
Still say it scans properly, just didn't want to retype the whole
|
||
message, so I excerpted. Anyway, there seems to be a major problem
|
||
with this wondrous electronic communication, in that the words of
|
||
the message cannot carry inflection and body language.
|
||
But from the reaction, I'll continue to post 'conservative
|
||
controversy'. Apparently you wacko liberals need some jolting now
|
||
and again. It's just a shame that conservatives are not allowed
|
||
the same freedom as liberals in taking offense to stereotyping
|
||
(sardonic grin on face, small sigh, ending with a wink).
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: censorship
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 03:05:16
|
||
Message Number 5160
|
||
|
||
You deleted a message from Sauron to me?!!!!!! Just how vulgar was
|
||
it (even more vulgar than other things he's posted -- hard to
|
||
believe)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: ST
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 03:12:27
|
||
Message Number 5161
|
||
|
||
I doubt they'll have a Spock appearance in TNG, since in 'Sarek'
|
||
he was referred to in the past tense, along with Amanda. (Of course,
|
||
Tasha was dead, and that didn't stop her from reappearing on the
|
||
series.)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: What?
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 03:14:46
|
||
Message Number 5162
|
||
|
||
re: skirt-flipping in 'King And I'
|
||
The King of Siam is about to visited by an English delegation
|
||
intent to turn Siam into a protectorate (that means they're gonna
|
||
grab the country and not let any of the locals hold a higher
|
||
position than elephant catcher) because the King is a 'barbarian'. To
|
||
prove that he is civilized the King plans various events, including
|
||
presentation of his wives, dressed in proper Western attire. However,
|
||
the ladies have heard the rumors that the English are quite nasty and
|
||
eat small children, so they're not too keen on meeting the delegation.
|
||
When the wives are presented, one of the Englishman flashes his
|
||
monocle (the better to ogle the ladies), and they naturally assume
|
||
that it is the evil eye, and flip their skirts to hide from the
|
||
evil eye as they rush off-stage to safety. Of course, earlier it
|
||
has been established that in the rush to get things prepared, the
|
||
details of providing undergarments had been neglected...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: ET AL
|
||
Subject: humorless
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 03:25:32
|
||
Message Number 5163
|
||
|
||
Angel sat at the piano trying to calm herself. She perhaps should
|
||
not have shouted at the old magician, even though he did not show a
|
||
bit of gratitude for her wondrous gift. The day had not gone well.
|
||
She was still upset over the nasty questioning of the local law
|
||
enforcement officials ... and to think, they had the nerve to call
|
||
her humorless!
|
||
There seemed no immediate conversation occuring that she could
|
||
leap into, so she played the piano. The melancholy song matched her
|
||
mood.
|
||
"Once in a time that seems so long ago
|
||
In the midst of a place called the Land of the Dead,
|
||
My withering soul sought a place of repose
|
||
Where my mind could be lost; but I found it instead.
|
||
Where lyrical, spherical denizens rampaged
|
||
With dragons and turtles and wizards without dread.
|
||
Risk was abundant, all bridges were warped
|
||
And insanity reigned in the Land of the Dead.
|
||
|
||
I knew all of the sub-human creatures that dwelt there --
|
||
The stainless-steel lover, the starry seeress,
|
||
The dark-haired, fiery tongued siren,
|
||
A tall prophet, an empath, a gentle miser, a munchkin or two,
|
||
A foot-chewing beast, a Scholar and a Priest,
|
||
And a unicorn, and me ...
|
||
and you.
|
||
|
||
I spent meaningless days there, that meant very much.
|
||
I'd try to move a spider's web and run from the fountain's touch,
|
||
While totalitary individuals battled over the world.
|
||
And though we said Madagascar was the key,
|
||
We knew the key was our love.
|
||
|
||
Now I am lost in a Land called Life.
|
||
And I sympathize with souls that perished centuries ago,
|
||
Who knew the glory of Camelot and prayed for its return,
|
||
As I pray for my Once-and-Future Land I left so long, long ago.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: YNGLING
|
||
Subject: Friday, 4 pm
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 08:33:28
|
||
Message Number 5167
|
||
|
||
I used to agree with you.....I tried to drink and tan my way through
|
||
SPJC about ten years ago - which is why I've been painting houses
|
||
ever since. What I said was I don't drink on weekdays while I'm in
|
||
school - I study Mon - Thur, look out Friday ! I think I'll go
|
||
study the menu at the Sarasota Brewing Company...
|
||
A Thirsty Thrud
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Liberalism
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 08:47:33
|
||
Message Number 5168
|
||
|
||
dittl
|
||
A conservative and anti-censorship Thrud
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: we have a winne
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 08:50:45
|
||
Message Number 5169
|
||
|
||
Exactly right - Dr Carl Daystrom - inventor of M5 and one of
|
||
Spocks heros til he went whacko - you win an all-expenses paid
|
||
tour of Starfleet command. Just go to Frisco and
|
||
ask a cop where the "nuclear wessels are.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: self amusement
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 08:59:47
|
||
Message Number 5170
|
||
|
||
Jeez, for such a champion of open-minded ness you sure get nasty.
|
||
While a point may be made that this conservative is lacking in
|
||
common sense, how can you possibly say we lack the ability to
|
||
laugh at ourselves ? when I look back at the likes of tricky Dickie
|
||
,Al Haig, Gerry Ford etc, I have to laugh to keep from crying.
|
||
Why do you think we all escape to an Alter Reality ?
|
||
A laughing Thrud
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Bush
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 09:07:35
|
||
Message Number 5171
|
||
|
||
Unfortunately, the job of being pres has gotten to be so big that
|
||
merely not screwing up the world can be called a success. Big George
|
||
has / and will continue to manage that. Nothing flashy, but as
|
||
long as the status quo is maintained, any of us with the talant,
|
||
ambition and willingness to work hard can grow up to be anything
|
||
we want, exept perhaps a firetruck.
|
||
Vote for Bob (i think i'll change my opinion 180') martinez ?
|
||
jeez, even I'm not THAT loyal a Republican.
|
||
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: neckwear
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 09:14:43
|
||
Message Number 5172
|
||
|
||
Let me see if I got that straight - a guy hung a grasshopper
|
||
around his neck, joined the NWA and became Jack Brisco's
|
||
tag team partner? I'm confused. Maybe I should try to get
|
||
current on my enlightenment paymets.
|
||
Didja ever notice that some folks are lacking in the sense
|
||
of humor department ?
|
||
The ever conservative Thrud
|
||
- not just another brick in the wall
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: skirts
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 10:47:46
|
||
Message Number 5173
|
||
|
||
The original script for Alien III was written by William Gibson, author
|
||
of NEUROMANCER, the novel that effectively defined the "Cyberpunk"
|
||
subgenre of science fiction. If they used his script, there's some
|
||
promise. If they didn't, well... At any rate, I believe the movie is
|
||
being directed by Ridley Scott, which means -- if nothing else -- it'll
|
||
have a lot of fantastic panorama shots and bright-lights-against-black
|
||
fx visuals.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: censorship
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 10:53:29
|
||
Message Number 5174
|
||
|
||
I don't remember the specifics of the message but it was something that
|
||
made "sand-niggers" look relatively tame.
|
||
As for you not being "deadly serious", your tone in the messages was
|
||
serious enough that Turtle spent most of yesterday mentally wandering
|
||
between anger and bafflement. Telling him he should be deleting
|
||
messages is something he /does/ take deadly seriously; if you really
|
||
didn't want this /type/ of reaction, posting something in a less morally
|
||
outraged stance might have been helpful. As you pointed out, all we
|
||
have to go on are words, not tonal inflection.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DONTHEN
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: self amusement
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 11:00:04
|
||
Message Number 5175
|
||
|
||
Well, I didn't say /everyone/ (on either side) had the inability to
|
||
laugh. We have Ted Kennedy and Gary Hart. I suppose we also have
|
||
Jesse Jackson, although you can have him if you'd like. (Maybe he can
|
||
be convinced to run with somebody else's party next time, like New
|
||
Alliance or whatever.)
|
||
|
||
And I never claimed to be a NICE champion of anything.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: skirts
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 12:43:52
|
||
Message Number 5176
|
||
|
||
> The original script for Alien III was written by William Gibson....
|
||
> .. If they used his script, there's some promise.
|
||
|
||
Geez.. /some/ promise?? I've wanted to see a William Gibson novel as a
|
||
movie since I first read any of his stuff!
|
||
|
||
- Corwyn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: StarTrekkies
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 13:14:59
|
||
Message Number 5177
|
||
|
||
Compare St ST:TNG to D&D:
|
||
|
||
Humans Humans
|
||
Elves Vulcans
|
||
Drow(dark elves) Romulans
|
||
Orcs Klingons
|
||
no dwarves, though.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Wheaton
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 13:17:36
|
||
Message Number 5178
|
||
|
||
THAT WAS HIM?!?!?!?!?!??
|
||
Whoa! Awesome revalation dude.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Ferengi
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 13:20:21
|
||
Message Number 5179
|
||
|
||
Hell,those Ferengi ships warpFast!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 13:21:11
|
||
Message Number 5180
|
||
|
||
And don't forget the planet where you can't touch women and they wear
|
||
weird headgear and throw Krull things. The klingons were trying to get
|
||
the planet's dilithium. They wouldn't have known about it if they hadn't
|
||
researched it. The episode where McCoy gave birth to that woman's kid.
|
||
(I didn't mean that the way it came out.)
|
||
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Aliens III
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 13:24:59
|
||
Message Number 5181
|
||
|
||
Probably Newt's child or something. I hope the artificialintelligence
|
||
Bishop(or a more advenced mode) is in this one.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: ST
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 13:28:45
|
||
Message Number 5182
|
||
|
||
I didn't hear a metion of spock and I watched it three times.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: Richard Nixon
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 13:44:01
|
||
Message Number 5183
|
||
|
||
I hope you don't have a problem with Richard Nixon, he was my favori-
|
||
te president. He didn't plan the Watergate scandal, it was his re-elect-
|
||
ion com that planned it. He did alot of good things i~while he was in o
|
||
ffice, and even today he's interviewed on T.V. and in books on his views
|
||
His latest book is In the Arena. A compiling of his memoirs.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: winne?
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 14:19:39
|
||
Message Number 5184
|
||
|
||
Oh boy! Neato! Let's hop on the next plane out... Anyway, any idea
|
||
what a cop would REALLY do if you walked up and asked for "Nuclear
|
||
wessels?"
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: skirts
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 14:21:34
|
||
Message Number 5185
|
||
|
||
> I believe the movie is being directed by Ridley Scott...
|
||
|
||
Really? Hmmm... that sounds quite promising. I liked the first one
|
||
better than "Aliens", so if he's going to do this sequel, it should be
|
||
excellent.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: StarTrekkies
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 14:24:54
|
||
Message Number 5186
|
||
|
||
> Compare St ST:TNG to D&D:
|
||
|
||
Interesting... there are probably aliens you could compare to dwarves,
|
||
though...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Aliens III
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 14:26:49
|
||
Message Number 5187
|
||
|
||
> I hope...Bishop...is in this one.
|
||
|
||
There more than likely will be an android of some type. Maybe they
|
||
will feel that idea was exhausted, but it is an interesting thing to
|
||
have...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Question
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 15:58:58
|
||
Message Number 5188
|
||
|
||
He just told some influencial people something they didn't want to hear.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Real dips
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 16:00:55
|
||
Message Number 5189
|
||
|
||
Thanx, I'll try.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: RAVEN
|
||
Subject: Real dips
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 16:03:02
|
||
Message Number 5190
|
||
|
||
Yes, we are.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: RAVEN
|
||
Subject: Waaaay far out
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 16:04:28
|
||
Message Number 5191
|
||
|
||
For some reason I wish I could UN-post it.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: SAURON
|
||
Subject: Gimme that....
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 16:06:24
|
||
Message Number 5192
|
||
|
||
WHAT???
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: C.C.A.
|
||
Subject: Question
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 19:49:11
|
||
Message Number 5193
|
||
|
||
Ooh! look who's back!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: Liberalism
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 20:30:30
|
||
Message Number 5195
|
||
|
||
>And I find that attitude [liberal-bashing] offensive as well.
|
||
|
||
So do I. That's why I was parodying it.
|
||
|
||
>And, yes, I am humorless about negative stereotypes of all kinds.
|
||
|
||
Next week...The lighter side of the abortion debate!
|
||
--A humorless, conservative-bashing Turtle
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 20:34:31
|
||
Message Number 5196
|
||
|
||
>Substitution worked for me.
|
||
|
||
Uh-huh. I'm still not convinced. Try substituting "negro" fro
|
||
"drug dealer" and "white" for "police officer" in an article about
|
||
cleaning up inner cities, and you'll end up with a remarkably
|
||
racist article. You can make anything you want say anything you want
|
||
as long as you can make any substitutions you want, if you don't mind
|
||
totally destroying the original meaning. What's your point?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: DWEEBS and TNG!
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 20:48:03
|
||
Message Number 5197
|
||
|
||
>A defensive weapon isn't good?
|
||
|
||
A defensive weapon is an oxymoron.
|
||
|
||
>The best offense is a good defense!
|
||
|
||
Maybe so, but the best blueberry pancakes can be found at Bob Evan's!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Poem
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 20:49:50
|
||
Message Number 5198
|
||
|
||
>The Rime of the Ancient Mariner.
|
||
|
||
I knew it was either that or "Kubla Khan." I hate when I get my
|
||
classic-poetry-that's-been-turned-into-rock-songs reading mixed up.
|
||
"In Xanadu did Kubla Khan decree,
|
||
Water, water everywhere and not a cave of ice!"
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 20:59:39
|
||
Message Number 5199
|
||
|
||
>(sardonic grin on face, small sigh, ending with a wink.)
|
||
|
||
You're a really aggravating person, you know that?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: Liberalism
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 21:06:11
|
||
Message Number 5201
|
||
|
||
>dittl
|
||
|
||
And gruphedl to you, too!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: neckwear
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 21:09:37
|
||
Message Number 5202
|
||
|
||
>Didja ever notice that some folks are lacking in the sense of humor
|
||
>department?
|
||
|
||
The what? Is that next to the audio/video department?
|
||
|
||
Actually, I was in a Wal-Mart once and I ran into Sam Walton--literally.
|
||
It was kinda neat...next time I do something like that, perhaps I should
|
||
ask him about the sense of humor department. He drives a pickup, you
|
||
know. Putting the horse beside the pickup is better than beating
|
||
it at water. People who drink water from glasses shouldn't throw
|
||
stones, because a rolling stone gathers no moss. That isn't terribly
|
||
helpful if you're lost in a forest, of course, because if the moss can't
|
||
grow then it can't grow on the north side of the tree. Moss is always
|
||
greener on the other side of the fence. Working both sides of the
|
||
fence is generally a rosy proposition, since every rose has its
|
||
thorns, and the thorn is mightier than the sword. Party on, dude!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: skirts
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 21:26:34
|
||
Message Number 5203
|
||
|
||
>I liked the first one better than "Aliens"...
|
||
|
||
Heretic! Blasphemer! Republican! The second movie was /much/ better...
|
||
more complex, better characterization...thpth!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: censorship
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 21:35:33
|
||
Message Number 5204
|
||
|
||
> telling him he should be deleting messages
|
||
|
||
Come again? I never said he SHOULD do anything. Perhaps you're
|
||
reading my messages with more moral outrage than was there.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: watch it again
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 21:37:53
|
||
Message Number 5205
|
||
|
||
Watch 'Sarek' again. While Picard was wallowing in Sarek's emotions
|
||
he said, roughly 'Spock, Amanda did you know, Perrin do you know I
|
||
loved you?'
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Liberalism
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 21:42:25
|
||
Message Number 5206
|
||
|
||
> Next week ... The lighter side of the abortion debate!
|
||
|
||
How can you seriously consider delving into light-hearted
|
||
areas of serious subjects, especially when there are so many vital
|
||
issues that need discussion. Like the possible extinction of futzpahs.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 21:45:04
|
||
Message Number 5207
|
||
|
||
Ooh. Now you're getting into territories that others are already
|
||
arguing. There are groups who already claim that the war on drugs
|
||
has become a racist battle, since it is primarily waged by white
|
||
police officers against black and hispanic drug-dealers (and before
|
||
I get jumped all over for posting this .... No! This is not MY
|
||
belief. We're all getting somewhat humorless about posts. Not long
|
||
ago, Turtle, I posted a message to you concerning original intent
|
||
on the freedom to bear arms and everyone was jumping down my throat
|
||
because I was against gun control. That also is not MY belief. Can't
|
||
we discuss different schools of thought without everyone believing that
|
||
we ADVOCATE those schools of thought?)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: ANGEL
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 21:52:07
|
||
Message Number 5208
|
||
|
||
> You're a really aggravating person, you know that?
|
||
|
||
Thank you. I've made that my purpose in life.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Pancakes
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 22:37:11
|
||
Message Number 5209
|
||
|
||
Have you tried banana nut pancakes?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Poem
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 22:38:27
|
||
Message Number 5210
|
||
|
||
Water, water everywhere, and not a drop to drink.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: skirts
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 22:41:15
|
||
Message Number 5211
|
||
|
||
Totally.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 22:43:48
|
||
Message Number 5212
|
||
|
||
How about the authenticity of world maps from Iran?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: PARTY!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 22:46:13
|
||
Message Number 5213
|
||
|
||
So, when's the next Alter Reality party?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Denny
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 23:28:05
|
||
Message Number 5214
|
||
|
||
>Oh well...so DID you just get married??
|
||
|
||
Nope, I had just been to Cobalt [footnote 1]. Actually, I had just been
|
||
to see TMNT at the midnight movies. But before I was at TMNT, I was
|
||
at Cobalt.
|
||
|
||
Footnote 1: Cobalt is the name of our Prom. Our 'prom' started out in
|
||
the chemistry room as a simple pot luck dinner. Rumour is that someone
|
||
spilled a bottle of cobalt (to bad it wasn't sodium in the punch), hence
|
||
the name Cobalt. Since then, Cobalt has grown into a full blown prom.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: JONBOY
|
||
Subject: abuse
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 23:33:03
|
||
Message Number 5215
|
||
|
||
Seeing how I'm usually not at home when you are most likely at work, and
|
||
my tendency to forget things [I know of a certain Fox who forgets things
|
||
more than I do], we could just work it out via E-mail. If you could
|
||
just leave an address and some directions (I always have a street map of
|
||
Sarasota handy), I could make it your way sometime.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: skirts
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 23:39:23
|
||
Message Number 5216
|
||
|
||
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...........
|
||
|
||
You die, the girl dies, /everybody/ dies.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: Griffin dormant
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 23:40:53
|
||
Message Number 5217
|
||
|
||
>convert...probation...recorder lesson...medieval costume, giving a
|
||
>lecture...ice cream
|
||
|
||
Cool! Why doesn't the catalog for NC mention these things?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 23:42:44
|
||
Message Number 5218
|
||
|
||
Re: Killing Riker & Wesley
|
||
How about transporting a ball into their stomachs. Once the ball is
|
||
inside, big spikes shoot out.
|
||
|
||
O.K. So I'm in a sick mood, but I really can't stand Riker, Picard,
|
||
the good doctor. Wesley I can live with.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: Wheaton
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 23:56:54
|
||
Message Number 5219
|
||
|
||
I'd rather see Wheaton "hot-rodding the Enterprise through the
|
||
galaxy" than Ken Ober.
|
||
|
||
...gee Ken, that smells like burning brakes.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: Puzzles...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/27/90 23:58:28
|
||
Message Number 5220
|
||
|
||
Beef, real food for real people. Even on Fridays.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Arnold
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 00:12:22
|
||
Message Number 5221
|
||
|
||
>Don't you know ANYTHING? It's "ooh-ee, ooh-ah-ah, bing bang, walla
|
||
>walla bing bang."
|
||
|
||
If I was in anymore of a fouler mood, and I had enough gas, I'd
|
||
probably drive up to your house and give you a massive wedgie.
|
||
Besides, I'm quoting the Chipmunks version.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: skirts
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 00:24:51
|
||
Message Number 5222
|
||
|
||
I heard they trashed Gibson's script in favor of another. Or maybe
|
||
vice-versa.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: DWEEBS and TNG!
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 00:30:51
|
||
Message Number 5223
|
||
|
||
>Maybe so, but the best blueberry pancakes can be found at Bob Evan's!
|
||
|
||
Yea, but Ken makes some pretty mean french toast.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: neckwear
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 00:33:07
|
||
Message Number 5224
|
||
|
||
"Moss grows on the north side of arc welding, so I must be heading
|
||
west...I think."-Gadget
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Poem
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 00:35:56
|
||
Message Number 5225
|
||
|
||
>Water, water everywhere, and not a drop to drink.
|
||
|
||
Actually, I've got a cup full of water right here, and it's quite
|
||
drinkable.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Water
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 00:48:29
|
||
Message Number 5226
|
||
|
||
Not if it's tap water.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: Y'ALL
|
||
Subject: Smoking
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 00:50:08
|
||
Message Number 5227
|
||
|
||
Somebody requested a debate, you got it. Smoker's rights.
|
||
|
||
A Spellwind dude lighting up now.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 01:27:12
|
||
Message Number 5228
|
||
|
||
Look, if the cloaking device isn't useful, then why do the Klingons
|
||
and Romulans have it and actively use it all the time? HHmmm? Are
|
||
they just stupic like the ferenghi????
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject:
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 01:29:00
|
||
Message Number 5229
|
||
|
||
And the Federation doesn't assume a Romulan ship coming past the
|
||
neutral zone is an act of aggression? They sure send the ships in
|
||
rather quickly.....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DM2
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Invalidation
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 02:14:37
|
||
Message Number 5231
|
||
|
||
LOL!!!!! I usually use this: 8I hehe
|
||
---A normally crosseyed DM (at this hour) ;)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: DM2
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: StarTrekkies
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 02:52:30
|
||
Message Number 5232
|
||
|
||
>Orcs Klingons
|
||
That's an insult! Klingons are smarter than that.
|
||
Though I'll have to admit there is a certain resemblance...
|
||
Ya know... maybe Dwarves and Klingons are more alike?
|
||
---An Orc-Despising DM
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 06:47:11
|
||
Message Number 5233
|
||
|
||
I dreamt that we substituted "modemheads" for "People" and unlimited
|
||
access" for "Freedom" in the Declaration of Independence. Then I went
|
||
outside and the air was clean, people loved one another , David
|
||
Eisenhower was president. Then I realized the whole world was
|
||
operating at 300 baud and I woke up in a cold sweat.
|
||
Moral of the story: DO NOT eat cajun style potato chips before
|
||
bed.
|
||
A working on Memorial day Thrud
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
Subject: generous
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 07:09:47
|
||
Message Number 5235
|
||
|
||
>Now, let's have prayer in the schools.
|
||
|
||
So long as there are final exams, there will be prayer in the schools.
|
||
|
||
Jimmy was an extremely devout born-again Christian. Unfortunately, a
|
||
strong religious belief is a handicap in Washington.
|
||
<CPU>
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Grok
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 07:13:17
|
||
Message Number 5236
|
||
|
||
>He meant to say Greek.
|
||
|
||
Ha! Who are you putting words in MY mouth? Just because I feel I
|
||
can misquote you, does that give YOU the permission to feel that I
|
||
need correction? HA! When I said "Green," I meant green. And when I
|
||
said "Green," I didn't mean the grass-type green, or even the yellow-
|
||
green of some plants, I meant the puke green found on certain cars!
|
||
Ha!
|
||
<Maniacal laughter>
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 07:31:56
|
||
Message Number 5237
|
||
|
||
>...when I make such patently liberal statements as "wouldn't making
|
||
>flag-burning illegal be contrary to the ideals of the Bill of Rights?"
|
||
|
||
Huh? Libertarianism is usually considered more right-wing than
|
||
left wing...
|
||
m Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 07:41:12
|
||
Message Number 5238
|
||
|
||
>Gee. and I'm the one being called humorless.
|
||
|
||
Milady, I would never call you humorless.
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: THRUD
|
||
Subject: Bush
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 07:46:02
|
||
Message Number 5239
|
||
|
||
>The job of being pres has gotten to be so big that merely not
|
||
>screwing up the world can be called a success.
|
||
|
||
POSITION AVAILABLE: President of major country. Ability required: having
|
||
"red button" on you for four-year stint and NOT pushing it. Salary:
|
||
negotiable. Please call the White House at...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Poem
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 07:52:24
|
||
Message Number 5240
|
||
|
||
"To my amazement/ There stood a Raven/ WHose shadow hung above my door.
|
||
To break the silence/ He spoke the one word/ That I shall hear forever-
|
||
more:/ Nevermore."
|
||
|
||
What's your point?
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Poem
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 07:56:01
|
||
Message Number 5241
|
||
|
||
>Water, water everywhere, and not a drop to drink.
|
||
|
||
Yes, but so long as there's enough tequilla, I'm happy.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: skirts
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 07:57:31
|
||
Message Number 5242
|
||
|
||
>You die, the girl dies, /everybody/ dies.
|
||
|
||
Sounds reasonable to me!
|
||
<CPU>
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: If you care...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 08:01:48
|
||
Message Number 5243
|
||
|
||
Oh yeah -- a P.S. Donthen -- stop by sometime today to get four dollars
|
||
fpor Mythagoras }{ from me...
|
||
Chip P. Unicorn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
To: TRU FANS (TM)
|
||
Subject: Be back...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 08:03:05
|
||
Message Number 5244
|
||
|
||
While Angel played the piano, Chip wandered back to the bar.
|
||
"Xon, could you find out how much my tab is? I'll be back later today
|
||
with the money." Xonzoff wandered over to the files of the Den, picked
|
||
out Chip's bar tab, and scribbled a note with the amount Chip owed.
|
||
He then stuckj the note in Chip's leather strap.
|
||
"Thanks." The unicorn then turned toward the door, saluted Angel
|
||
with his horn, and said, "See ya in a coupole of hours..."
|
||
He then left foir the Embassy, to begin packing.
|
||
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Question
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 09:28:55
|
||
Message Number 5245
|
||
|
||
Sorry for the delay. I was having trouble with my computer.
|
||
Does anybody know where I can get a 2400 baud modem cheap??(preferably
|
||
one that works.)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 09:35:21
|
||
Message Number 5246
|
||
|
||
Actually, the Federation DOES have cloaking technology, it just chooses
|
||
not to use it. (See Star Trek #40:"Time Trap")
|
||
(Published by Pocket Books)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: DM2
|
||
Subject: StarTrekkies
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 09:41:20
|
||
Message Number 5247
|
||
|
||
Klingons are more like ogres.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: substitutions
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 10:06:33
|
||
Message Number 5248
|
||
|
||
Actually the "Post a controversial message, get lots of flaming hot
|
||
responses, and then say 'I just wanted to see some mail fly'" apparently
|
||
is coming in fashion, (Specifically Jonboy and Angel) have made /very/
|
||
strong statements on this board recently, and ended up responding with,
|
||
"Well, I'm glad I got a reaction out of you guys." If you make a state-
|
||
ment that is less than obviously sarcastic, you shouldn't make cop-outs
|
||
like these.
|
||
|
||
To Jonboy - Yes, I /am/ open minded, simply because I now hold strong
|
||
opinions on the matter doesn't mean I haven't looked at the
|
||
questions with an open mind. You still haven't responded to
|
||
criticisms of you "Orthodox Christianity - the only true
|
||
religion" I'd be interested to hear some kind of reasonable
|
||
support for that one!
|
||
|
||
To Angel - Well, throwing accusations like the ones you did around, and
|
||
then claiming "Who said I was serious" is kinda un-nice in
|
||
my book, Heck, /everybody/ knew Turtle was kidding, he
|
||
/did/ manage to convey sarcasm in the content of his
|
||
post, but obviously, yours failed to do so. Maybe paying
|
||
more attention to tone and general content /is/ more
|
||
effective than getting all of your grammer exactly correct,
|
||
something to think about hmm?
|
||
|
||
Anyway, nothing personal here, just having a few problems with this
|
||
"trend" torward the post-and-run attitude.. if you post your beliefs,
|
||
back 'em up!
|
||
|
||
|
||
- Corwyn
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: neckwear
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 10:18:59
|
||
Message Number 5249
|
||
|
||
And the Turtle spun on his yellow spot of moss in the green pool of
|
||
the liquid of life, flowing down the river of eterni - tee.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: skirts
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 10:24:16
|
||
Message Number 5250
|
||
|
||
He was the kindest, most honourable, /best/ person I ever knew.
|
||
|
||
Aaaww gimme a break!
|
||
|
||
Stomp stomp ... smash!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: DM2
|
||
Subject: StarTrekkies
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 11:20:27
|
||
Message Number 5251
|
||
|
||
Dwarves are 3-1/2, 4 feet tall! Klingons are taller than us!
|
||
Don't be stupid.
|
||
|
||
A Spellwind dude who KNOWS Klingons are Orcs.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: C.C.A.
|
||
Subject: Question
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 11:28:19
|
||
Message Number 5252
|
||
|
||
I don't mind the delay! In fact, delay more! Hahhahahahaha.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: SPELLWIND
|
||
To: C.C.A.
|
||
Subject: StarTrekkies
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 11:29:59
|
||
Message Number 5253
|
||
|
||
Ogres are too big (8-10 ft)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Aliens
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 11:41:44
|
||
Message Number 5254
|
||
|
||
> more complex, better characterization...
|
||
|
||
Yes, in it's own right "Aliens" accomplished the characterization
|
||
much better. more complex? Yeah, that's true. I liked the suspense in
|
||
the first film. I have never really gotten into the action or horror
|
||
types of films. I know "Alien" isn't a horror film by some standards,
|
||
but I found it scary. Something I don't find in the slapdash films you
|
||
see on late night TV, which just gross me out. "Alien" left you on the
|
||
edge of your seat throughout. When I saw "Aliens", I only some suspense
|
||
in the film. It all depends on your tastes. If you wanted more action
|
||
and more everything, then "Aliens" is better.
|
||
It's not like I hated it, though.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: watch it again
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 11:48:17
|
||
Message Number 5255
|
||
|
||
> 'Spock, Amanda did you know, Perrin do you know I loved you?'
|
||
|
||
Thanks for the quote... I've been thinking about what the comment
|
||
about Sarek's son's wedding was meant for, and it MUST be about Spock.
|
||
Some were saying that it wasn't, but it had to be or Sarek would have
|
||
mentioned another person in that quote... then again he didn't mention
|
||
Sybok. Did Sarek know of Sybok?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: PARTY!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 11:52:47
|
||
Message Number 5256
|
||
|
||
> So, when's the next Alter Reality party?
|
||
|
||
What I'd really like to know is when Turtle and Rufus decided to have
|
||
RufusCon 90... Did you guys decide at the McDonalds Friday??
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Arnold
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 11:55:47
|
||
Message Number 5257
|
||
|
||
> Besides, I'm quoting the Chipmunks version.
|
||
|
||
So was I. No need to get all riled up. I was just joking.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 12:00:59
|
||
Message Number 5258
|
||
|
||
> Are they just stupid like the ferenghi????
|
||
|
||
Well, I never would pick the Romulans as good rational thinkers...
|
||
Anyway, if the Federation REALLY needs a cloaked ship, they aren't
|
||
going to send a research vessel. I think that since they are allies with
|
||
the Klingons, they can get a cloaked Klingon ship out if neccesary.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: KEN OBER
|
||
Subject:
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 12:03:34
|
||
Message Number 5259
|
||
|
||
They do assume it's an act of aggression. It's just that the Romulans
|
||
will handle an act of aggression by destroying something. The Federation
|
||
will try to get the ship to go back. If the Federation destroys a
|
||
Romulan vessel, the Romulan Empire is going to start a very large war.
|
||
If the Romulans destroy a ship, the Federation isn't going to run in and
|
||
attack the whole empire. This is NOT because they're "chickens", it
|
||
happens to be beacause they handle things without going to extremes. One
|
||
casualty is no reason to start a war. And if you still think they're
|
||
stupid for not doing it, then I think you missed the whole point to the
|
||
movie Friday night.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: /***\***/***|
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 12:36:24
|
||
Message Number 5260
|
||
|
||
How 'bout saturday?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RAVEN
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: ect.
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 12:46:44
|
||
Message Number 5261
|
||
|
||
> ...and never examine the facts closely enough to check their proofs.
|
||
|
||
Hmm. I always find it amusing when so-called biblical scholars
|
||
quote pieces of the bible. usually when one looks up the section they
|
||
have misquoted.
|
||
that should be 'it appears that they have misquoted it'
|
||
|
||
I find it rather iritating when the 'experts' merely find a line that
|
||
supports their point when out of context, and do not bother to see if
|
||
it is valid when taken in context. And then we can add that the bible
|
||
is oral tradition anyway, and so it is naturally full of errors.
|
||
|
||
ARGH! good night. A I lost myself back there Raven
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: ANGEL
|
||
Subject: Liberalism
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 15:13:56
|
||
Message Number 5262
|
||
|
||
As long as you and I and other concerned people are willing to struggle
|
||
for the continued use of non-Standard English futzpahs, they will never
|
||
die.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: Cobalt
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 15:18:02
|
||
Message Number 5263
|
||
|
||
That's very...odd. How, exactly, does one hold a potluck in a chemistry
|
||
lab; and more to the point, why would someone attempt to do something
|
||
so stupid? (Unless, of course, it was seen as an opportunity on
|
||
somebody's part to steal some magnesium...)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 15:20:27
|
||
Message Number 5264
|
||
|
||
>Wesley I can live with.
|
||
|
||
Better you than me!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Smoking
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 15:22:12
|
||
Message Number 5265
|
||
|
||
Smoker's rights? It is intuitively obvious to the most casual of ob-
|
||
servers that smokers have the perfect right to do anything they want
|
||
as long as
|
||
(1) They don't spew their noxious smoke around more intelligent people
|
||
who /don't/ smoke;
|
||
(2) They don't smoke around expensive computer or audio/visual
|
||
equipment not belonging to them. (I /like/ when they smoke around
|
||
computer equipment that DOES belong to them; I saw a smoker's
|
||
disk drive once that had so much smoke settle on the read-write
|
||
heads that they looked like they'd been sandpapered. Poetic
|
||
justice.)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: DM2
|
||
Subject: StarTrekkies
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 15:27:29
|
||
Message Number 5266
|
||
|
||
Klingons may be smartert than Orcs, but the Orcs have a more enlightened
|
||
and sophisticated culture...they're just misunderstood.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
Subject: No more skirts!
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 15:34:22
|
||
Message Number 5267
|
||
|
||
>Stomp stomp ... smash!
|
||
|
||
Another Smurf bites the dust...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: PARTY!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 15:36:03
|
||
Message Number 5268
|
||
|
||
Ghod only knows when RufusCon '90 will be...it's gonna be a tad
|
||
difficult to find a place to hold it, for one thing. Obviously,
|
||
with one more person and six more computers living here, this apartment
|
||
is kinda out of the question...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: TURTLE
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: ///---
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 15:39:56
|
||
Message Number 5269
|
||
|
||
>One casualty is no reason to start a war.
|
||
|
||
Obviously you aren't up on your John Birch Society literature, Son.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: ///---
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 16:44:20
|
||
Message Number 5270
|
||
|
||
Well, maybe I'm not up on that literature, and maybe I'm totally wrong
|
||
but I was thinking of that in terms of the way it's handled in Star Trek
|
||
The Next Generation...
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: Movies
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 16:52:40
|
||
Message Number 5271
|
||
|
||
I was extremely curious about how many (if any) of you here are going
|
||
to the Star Trek film series at Litchfield Cinemas. All five films will
|
||
be presented on the big screen in stereo. Here's the schedule:
|
||
June 16- "Star Trek: The Motion Picture"
|
||
June 23- "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan" (don't want to miss this!)
|
||
June 30- "Star Trek III: The Search For Spock"
|
||
July 7- "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home" (don't want to miss this either
|
||
!)
|
||
July 14- "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier"
|
||
|
||
All shows begin at 10:00 AM on the specified dates and tickets are
|
||
$1.50 each.
|
||
So, who's gonna be there???
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BEATLE
|
||
To: ALL
|
||
Subject: Future III
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 17:00:09
|
||
Message Number 5272
|
||
|
||
I saw "Back to the Future III" Friday night. This film is quite funny,
|
||
and if you are a big fan of the last two, then you can't miss this. It's
|
||
even enjoyable even if you hated the last two (ask Ken Ober. He hates
|
||
jsut about everything but Howard the Duck)... Very exciting and fast
|
||
paced ending. Very interesting and dramatic story. Very well done, even
|
||
considering that the crew just finished an FX rich, action filled film
|
||
before begining this one.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: qualifications
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 17:11:16
|
||
Message Number 5273
|
||
|
||
Do you think Ron Ray-gun or Jimmy (Rose Garden) Carter had any
|
||
better qualifications than that? I'm not so sure I'd trust a
|
||
Balrog like you with it tho.
|
||
A weary and patriotic THRUD
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: Your man Jesse
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 17:17:22
|
||
Message Number 5274
|
||
|
||
Now why would I want Jesse Jackson ? He may be the single biggest
|
||
reason for continued Republican dominence in presidential politics
|
||
- he also does more to hurt the cause of black people than he does
|
||
to help. Its a damn shame that the reverend Jackson and that idiot
|
||
(Sharpton?) in New York are considered spokesmen for thier people.
|
||
I'd rather see Andrew Young or Ken Gibson or Colin Powell or the
|
||
gov in VA - I don't necessasaryily(huh?) agree with their politics,
|
||
but they've actually walked the walk - not just run at the mouth
|
||
like Jesse.
|
||
A Thrud off on a tangent
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Richard Nixon
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 17:24:57
|
||
Message Number 5275
|
||
|
||
Boy, you don't ask for much from a favorite president, do ya?
|
||
I'll agree with some of the nice things being said about the
|
||
'rehabilitated' Nixon - - he did(does) in fact have quite an
|
||
intellect - and was a master of foriegn policy. But he did lack
|
||
in ethics at times and his personell management techniques were
|
||
substandard. If he had axed every person involved with watergate
|
||
and the coverup as soon as he knew about it, he could have gone
|
||
down in history as a great pres. Unfortunatly, he thought that
|
||
loyalty to his staff was more important than his loyalty to the
|
||
American people. Heavy sigh.
|
||
Why don't you buy some guns in 7-seas on BC? It's to easy to
|
||
whip your butt when I have you outgunned 10-1.
|
||
A somber Thrud
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: chekov
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 17:33:09
|
||
Message Number 5276
|
||
|
||
Ya know, that was one of the few flaws in THE BEST of the ST movies.
|
||
I thought it was funny as hell when he asked for the wessels, and
|
||
felt like it could have been pursued a little bit. Ah well, at least
|
||
he found the Enterprise. I guess the Yamamoto and Potemkin weren't
|
||
in port.
|
||
Up against the wall, Russkie !
|
||
A yankee(rebel?) doodle Thrud
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: gruphedl to you
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 17:37:13
|
||
Message Number 5277
|
||
|
||
What i lack in typing skillls , I make up in pure intellllect,
|
||
contnt of messsgesas, variyl; of dunranst , and omore.
|
||
An indignent Thrd
|
||
s
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: THRUD
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: neckwear
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 17:39:57
|
||
Message Number 5278
|
||
|
||
jeez you can turn a frase, or is that turn a corner, I mean corner a
|
||
rat, yuou dirty rat, you're the one who killed my brother....never mind
|
||
A Thrud who will now give another caller a chance on
|
||
this busy holiday.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: No more skirts!
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 18:36:07
|
||
Message Number 5279
|
||
|
||
Crunch, stomp.. "A fraggle!" stomp,stomp, crash, EEEEEEEKKKKRCH..
|
||
whoops, squished fraggle.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Question
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 20:18:21
|
||
Message Number 5282
|
||
|
||
If you tried, you might even border on HUMOR.
|
||
An UN-amused C.C.A.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: C.C.A.
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 20:23:38
|
||
Message Number 5283
|
||
|
||
As I told KEN OBER, The Federation has had cloaking technology since the
|
||
mid-23rd century. They just Haven't used it.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: DONTHEN
|
||
Subject: ...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 20:50:57
|
||
Message Number 5284
|
||
|
||
Now it is! :)
|
||
-The Lady
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Not God...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 20:53:16
|
||
Message Number 5285
|
||
|
||
You are sick.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Hey, dude!
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 20:53:42
|
||
Message Number 5286
|
||
|
||
That program has my heart and soul, and a bleeding ulcer to prove it!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: RUFUS
|
||
Subject: God...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 20:55:30
|
||
Message Number 5287
|
||
|
||
And Fuck you, too....I've known me longer...you've no excuse at all!
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: RAVEN
|
||
Subject: God...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 20:57:22
|
||
Message Number 5288
|
||
|
||
It hasn't.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: God...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 21:01:16
|
||
Message Number 5289
|
||
|
||
I've always been mentally insane...but atleast my fellow classmates...
|
||
(addressed at Turtle) don't light themselves on fire!
|
||
-The screwed up Lady
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Invalidation
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 21:07:02
|
||
Message Number 5290
|
||
|
||
THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE ADDRESSED TO: DM2.
|
||
Explain, what does your handle mean>
|
||
(supposed to be a ?)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: --
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 21:12:19
|
||
Message Number 5291
|
||
|
||
That's all I was asking. BTW, I'll join you in your bar for a drink....
|
||
:>
|
||
Magic
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Arnold
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 21:24:18
|
||
Message Number 5292
|
||
|
||
:)
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: BLACK MAGIC
|
||
To: SPELLWIND
|
||
Subject: Poem
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 21:25:18
|
||
Message Number 5293
|
||
|
||
Once upon a bad dream I had to not just read the Rhyme of the Ancient
|
||
Mariner, but ANALYZE it, too. Talk about nightmares! I hate being a
|
||
gifted English student.....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: KEN OBER
|
||
To: C.C.A.
|
||
Subject: ST & ST:TNG
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 21:36:54
|
||
Message Number 5294
|
||
|
||
Yes, but ST:TNG ha sno relation whatsoever to the original Star Trek
|
||
books....
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
|
||
Subject: If you care...
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 21:42:54
|
||
Message Number 5295
|
||
|
||
May I ask just what you'll be doing in Washington (and not down in
|
||
Mexico)? I'll drop you a line, but don't expect anything prompt.
|
||
Have a safe trip. When will you be leaving?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
|
||
Subject: skirts
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 21:48:54
|
||
Message Number 5296
|
||
|
||
"If there's one thing I know how to do, it's drive when I'm stoned."
|
||
|
||
Now I'm going to have to go dig up my copy to get some more quotes.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: PARTY!!!
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 21:50:51
|
||
Message Number 5297
|
||
|
||
>Did you guys decide at the McDonalds Friday??
|
||
|
||
No, we discussed the neat communications set-up at McD's. We haven't
|
||
set a date for RufusCon '90.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject: Arnold
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 21:52:11
|
||
Message Number 5298
|
||
|
||
"Never get in the way of a motivated guinea pig."-Sparky
|
||
|
||
...or a pissed off Rufus.
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: BEATLE
|
||
Subject:
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 21:53:47
|
||
Message Number 5299
|
||
|
||
>then I think you missed the whole point to the movie Friday night.
|
||
|
||
O.K. Just what does BTTF III have to do with Star Trek?
|
||
===========
|
||
|
||
From: RUFUS
|
||
To: TURTLE
|
||
Subject: Cobalt
|
||
Date & Time: 05/28/90 21:56:03
|
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Message Number 5300
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It's rather easy to hold a potluck in a chemistry room. Just have
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people bring food into the room. That's it. Why have it in there?
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I suppose it would be easy to heat stuff, what with all those bunsen
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burners [lemme tell ya, it does wonders on fondue!]. And the Chem.
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room may have been the only one with a fridge and oven and stove.
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