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92343 15-APR 00:31 General Information
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mpi 26-3124
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From: TAULBORG To: ALL
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I have a pretty good coco system but I have a multipak that hates me and
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another that won't work with os9 without upgrading it.The multipak that
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I NEED to upgrade is a model # 26-3124 and HAVE to upgrade it or buy
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another one that is already upgraded becuase I use os9 most of the time!
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ANY help would be greatly appreciated,
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thanks
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Steven P Taulborg
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92349 15-APR 20:04 General Information
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RE: mpi 26-3124 (Re: Msg 92343)
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From: COCOKIWI To: TAULBORG
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Talk to MARTYGOODMAN about it,he knows how to do em!
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Dennis
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92389 19-APR 23:11 General Information
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RE: mpi 26-3124 (Re: Msg 92343)
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From: NEALSTEWARD To: TAULBORG
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Unless you are using a Disto Super Controller II (or a few other 3rd party
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products) why even use an MPI? A Y-Cable with low current draw packs like
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the Ken-Ton paks works fine. Several members of our Club have been using
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Y-Cables for years without any ill effects. (sorry Marty :-) I know you
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advise against such measures, but it DOES work.) There may have been an
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advertisement in World of '68 Micros for the upgrade you seek, but I can't
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remember what issue.
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92393 21-APR 22:15 General Information
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RE: mpi 26-3124 (Re: Msg 92389)
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From: TAULBORG To: NEALSTEWARD (NR)
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I am using a Disto Super controller II!I also use a B&B hard drive interface
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and a RatShack RS232 pak so I guess I would need more like a W-cable because
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I use three paks,but thanks for the info!
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Hey I would like to know what club you belong to if it is a coco club
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Becuase maybe our club and yours might be able to share info and
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newsletters!
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Steven P Taulborg
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Pres. "The COCO CLUB" here in Central Ohio
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92404 22-APR 15:21 General Information
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RE: mpi 26-3124 (Re: Msg 92389)
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From: NETCRUISER To: ALL
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I have been trying to find a y-cable for some time now. anyone got one that
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they would'nt mind parting with? also looking to find the rs-232 pak,
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if anyone has one of those,too. please send private mail, as to not clutter up
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the forum too much.
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End of Thread.
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92344 15-APR 03:29 OSK Applications
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RE: Zip and Directories?? (Re: Msg 92334)
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From: BROWN80 To: DBREEDING
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You might look in the Tandy SIG. V1.0 is a very old version and it probably
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has some bugs in it. Are you using a PC? If so, you can download a much more
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recent version in the PC section along with a lot of documentation. Over
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there, that is practically all they use. When I say a lot of documentation,
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we are talking over 100 pages. PKZIP is a very versital program now. If
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you are using OS9 zip, that version was from a long time ago. It it has
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even more bugs than the first PC version did. I don't think there was
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ever any more versions ported over. The file that you can download here
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is a shareware demonstration which you are suppozed to register within one
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month for which the company will send you a more complete set of programs
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and even more documentation. Ihope this helps you.
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John Brown
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92347 15-APR 13:53 OSK Applications
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RE: Zip and Directories?? (Re: Msg 92344)
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From: DBREEDING To: BROWN80
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> You might look in the Tandy SIG. V1.0 is a very old version and it
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> probably has some bugs in it. Are you using a PC?
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No, it's OS9.
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> If you are using OS9 zip, that version was from a
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> long time ago. It it has even more bugs than the first PC version did. I
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> don't think there was ever any more versions ported over. The file that
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> you can download here is a shareware demonstration which you are suppozed
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> to register within one month for which the company will send you a more
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> complete set of programs and even more documentation. Ihope this helps
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> you. John Brown
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By "the file you can download here", you are referring to PC? I don't
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have a PC. I primarily use this zip to send to PC'ers and to compress
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QWK files for my local BBS. Seems like the PC'ers are pretty fond of
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zip. Actually, this has been the only problem I've seen with zip, I think,
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(and it's possible that zip is not the culprit in munging my directory
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structure, but it hasn't been happening at any other time (had one other
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instance in the year I've had my system, and I _might_ have been using
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zip then, can't remember).
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Thanks for your reply, I'll look at other alternatives.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
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End of Thread.
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92345 15-APR 10:23 General Information
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goodbye
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From: COLORSYSTEMS To: ALL
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Hi All!
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It is with a heavy heart that I must post this following message.
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For all intents and purposes, I have "gotten out of" OS-9.
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I still have my MM/1 and fire it up occasionally, but only to cruise the
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OS-9 forums with InfoeXpress. I am not doing any OS-9 program development.
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I can't remember the last time I fired up on of my CoCos.
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At any rate, I will cease reading all OS-9 forums as of this weekend. If you
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wish to contact me, I have an Internet account from my "new" PC. My general
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EMail address is "joecool@vnet.net".
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Primarily for the benefit of CoCoers/OS9ers who attended last fall's 'Fest in
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Atlanta (or for anyone else who reads this and is also interested), I have
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digitized several fest type photos which Allen Huffman was so kind to release
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into the public domain. I have these on my PC available through the Internet
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via Anonymous FTP. When you login, just cd to the gfx/atlfest.94 directory
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and GET the ones you would like. I especially liked ALLEN.GIF and L2UG.GIF.
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I am not set up to be a continual Internet site, but I will try to leave the
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link up for most of the weekend to accomodate any requests for these pixs.
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Feel free to browse the other gfx directory there as well, if you have a JPEG
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viewer. The JPEG files in the other directory are all original scans by yours
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truely.
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As for the availability of my line of OS-9 software products, for the CoCo3
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and the MM/1, they will now be available from Bill Wittman. He has purchased
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ownership of them and will work to improve/add to the MM/1 based products.
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For the many years of warm friendship in the OS-9 community, I thank you all
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from the bottom of my heart. I wish for each and everyone of you a long life
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of happiness and prosperity.
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Zack Sessions
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ColorSystems
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Zack C Sessions
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If you're not the "lead dog", the scenery never changes.
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92346 15-APR 12:16 General Information
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RE: goodbye (Re: Msg 92345)
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From: COLORSYSTEMS To: COLORSYSTEMS
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>Primarily for the benefit of CoCoers/OS9ers who attended last fall's
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>'Fest in Atlanta (or for anyone else who reads this and is also
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>interested), I have digitized several fest type photos which Allen
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>Huffman was so kind to release into the public domain. I have these
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>on my PC available through the Internet via Anonymous FTP. When you
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>login, just cd to the gfx/atlfest.94 directory and GET the ones you
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>would like. I especially liked ALLEN.GIF and L2UG.GIF.
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Whoops!! I forgot to publish the anonymous ftp server info!! (Thanks,
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Newton!)
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Using ftp client software login to remote host "arrakis.vnet.net". Log
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into the username "anonymous". The server software I use, Chameleon V4.5
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from Netmanage, requires a password for the anonymous account in the format
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of an Internet address. It does not have to be your real internet address,
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although I would prefer that it was. It does have to be in the format of
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an internet address, though, ie, "username@system.domain".
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Zack C Sessions
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If you're not the "lead dog", the scenery never changes.
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92348 15-APR 14:52 General Information
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RE: goodbye (Re: Msg 92345)
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From: MRGOOD To: COLORSYSTEMS
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Zack,
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Sorry to see you go. I enjoy your software, especially the X10 control
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program for the MM1.
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Hugo
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92350 15-APR 22:03 General Information
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RE: goodbye (Re: Msg 92345)
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From: JOHNBAER To: COLORSYSTEMS
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Well, what can I say but goodbye Zack. I believe you will be missed.
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I do enjoy playing the games on the mm1 still :). I must also thank
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you for the chance to get some of those pic's, which I did get to logon
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and look around.. Thanks for that!
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Take care good luck with whatever you do!
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--
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John - < Posted with Ved 2.3.1 & InfoXpress 1.2.0 >
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I am Pentium of Borg. You will be approximated.
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Resistance is more or less futile.
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End of Thread.
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92351 15-APR 22:11 General Information
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internet search
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From: SMITHBA To: ALL
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HELP!
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How do you find someones internet address. I have no information on them
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at all. I am tring to find Sol Ackerman. He is the one who wrote the tandy
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versions of the sierra games. I want to find leisure suite larry 3.
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I know it was made but not distributed. maybe he still has a copy of
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the production version.
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Thanks in advance
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Brian Smith
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92352 15-APR 22:52 General Information
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RE: internet search (Re: Msg 92351)
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From: MRGOOD To: SMITHBA
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LLL WAS distributed. In general though, it was usually special order
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at your local Radio Shack. I never did dolve the durn thing...
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er, that's SOLVE :-)
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Hugo
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92363 16-APR 19:20 General Information
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leisure suite larry 3 (Re: Msg 92352)
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From: SMITHBA To: MRGOOD
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hugo,
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If you read my letter you'll see that i am looking for leisure
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larry 3. not larry in the land of the lounge lizzards. I have that
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one and solved it.
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that was LL version 1.
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version 3 (I am not sure of the actual name of it) was made but sierra
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did not distribute it.
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End of Thread.
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92353 16-APR 01:35 General Information
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RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92339)
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From: ISC To: MITHELEN
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> Ya.. or at least make sure the vender of the video board you have has drivers
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> for OS/2... That is how it worked out with my #9 GXE 64 Pro. I downloaded
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> the OS/2 drivers from #9's support BBS...
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> Paul
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Exactly, Paul...A word to the wise...saves a lot of headaches!
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Bill
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92358 16-APR 11:40 General Information
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RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92310)
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From: 01GEN40 To: DBREEDING
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Hi Dave,
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I agree with you in that I would like to get as much out of my cur-
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rent setup as I possibly can. But, with everyone moving from the CoCo
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to the 68K machines and running OS9/68000, what can a person do. I would
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have to learn OS-9 all over again, not that I am saying I know all there
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is to know about OS-9 L2. I am pretty efficient useing an MS-DOS based
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machine. I would spend a lot less time getting on line with that then
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if I was to opt for OS9/68000. I run 2 systems as it is right now,
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this that I am on right now is my working CoCo. I use it for online
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purposes, for workinh
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Ah, &#$%", I hit the enter key again... As I was saying, for working
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on my programing projects, etc, etc. My other setup is a CoCo 3 that
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I use strictly for "fun". I use it for playing games. I guess that
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would be my meager "justification" for having another system as well.
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Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
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LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
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Peace and Long Life...
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Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
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-= GEN =-
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92359 16-APR 11:59 General Information
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RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92329)
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From: 01GEN40 To: COCOKIWI
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Hi Dennis,
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I do not plan on running WINDOZE! EVER!! Not on any system I will
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personally own. I will use OS/2 WARP. It can run WINDOZE software.
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And, from what I have been reading about OS/2, if you are not going
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to do a lot of extensive multi-tasking it will run comfortably with
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only 4Megs RAM.
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I do not like the way WINDOZE assumes control of the system. I left
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a message out here, explaining an incedent with WINDOZE for Workgroups
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V3.11. There are absolutely NO WINDOZE files on the 486 I use at
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work because of it. I use SmartDrive to speed up HD access and just
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recently found out that WINDOZE had corrupted my Autoexec.bat file
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by having smartdrv loaded from the WINDOZE directory. I cannot keep
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up with the 486 now, again! Disk access is much faster since I have
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Smartdrv loaded from the DOS directory, again.
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I have that same CD-ROM for ST:TNG. I picked it up at a Star
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Trek Convention out here in San Diego. Nothing to run it on, but
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at least when I do have a way of running it I do not have to go out
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and look for it. It recommends 8Meg of RAM if using the Quick Time
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VR but will run with 4Meg to start.
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Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
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LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
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Peace and Long Life...
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Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
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-= GEN =-
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92360 16-APR 12:11 General Information
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RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92320)
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From: 01GEN40 To: DBREEDING
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Hi Dave,
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See what I mean, OS9/68000! The CoCo is left out in the cold! I
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think I am beginning to see why people are dropping the CoCo all-
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together, it is just an obsolete orphan. Noone is going to sup-
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port it in a major way simply because of its limitations.
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See ya among the stars...
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LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
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Peace and Long Life...
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Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
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92364 16-APR 19:23 General Information
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RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92358)
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From: DBREEDING To: 01GEN40
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> I agree with you in that I would like to get as much out of my cur-
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> rent setup as I possibly can. But, with everyone moving from the CoCo
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> to the 68K machines and running OS9/68000, what can a person do.
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Well, I do think that if one is to remain with OS9, this will be necessary
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if not now, then not too far down the road. This is not to detract from
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the CoCo, but now, the move is to the higher graphics and things that are
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beginning to go beyond the design of the CoCo. And let's face it, it's
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hard to look around and see all the neat stuff you can do on the PC or Mac
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and not have a desire to be able to duplicate it. I get these urges and
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I've seen this expressed here, too. Someone (might have been you, not sure)
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said the reason they were going to get a PC was to be able to interface with
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the WWW. This is just something that is inevitable. OTOH, when you get a
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PC or whatever, I think you will wind up using it more and more and using
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the CoCo less and less. I think this is only natural. Even the programs we
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use now are beginning to get too big to be easily contained in the memory
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constraints of the coco.
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> I would
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> have to learn OS-9 all over again,
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Well, it's not like going into an entirely foreign country, but there are
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a few differences. The biggest difference is in the capabilities of the
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commands.. One example is "dsave" (one of many). It works basically
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the same as the 6809 version, but has several other options, like being
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able to execute on its own (rather than piping into a shell, although that
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is still available).. You can tell it to overwrite a file only if the source
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file has a later revision date than the destination file. Copy has many
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added features, too (something like some of the replacement coco copy
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commands).
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> I am pretty efficient useing an MS-DOS based
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> machine. I would spend a lot less time getting on line with that then
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> if I was to opt for OS9/68000.
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Well, it is a big decision. The bottom line is that, at this time at
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least, you should not get an OSK system unless you truly love it. It's
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a cold hard fact that you can get a PC fully loaded for about half what
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a minimally fully functional OSK System will cost. At this time, you
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can get a Pentium w/ 8 meg, 500+meg HD, and Multimedia for ~$2000. To
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me, for OSK, you need ~4meg, >200meg HD and a windowing system.. (which
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requires a monitor), so you're looking at about $3000. I think any of
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the 3 current systems will wind up around that figure when you configure
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them to the above spec. You might save some by buying the parts and
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doing some judicious shopping. But at any rate, it takes quite a bit
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of dedication to take this plunge and I cannot blame anyone for going with
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a PC or Mac.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
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92365 16-APR 19:23 General Information
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RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92359)
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From: DBREEDING To: 01GEN40
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> I do not plan on running WINDOZE! EVER!!
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> I will use OS/2 WARP. It can run WINDOZE software.
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> And, from what I have been reading about OS/2, if you are not going
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> to do a lot of extensive multi-tasking it will run comfortably with
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> only 4Megs RAM.
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More input on something I know nothing about...
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Like you, if I had a PC, I would dearly love to give OS/2 a shot. The
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only downside to that is that one may wind up with another "orphan"
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system.. From all reports I've read, OS/2 is _FAR_ superior to MS-Dos,
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but the big question is whether the public will buy it. Of course if
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it will run Windows flawlessly, you will still be in pretty good shape.
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I think I would be happier with 8 meg.. As I understand it, 4 meg will
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work but it makes thing rather tight.
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> I do not like the way WINDOZE assumes control of the system.
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Yeah, for people used to the command line, that is a real bother. From
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what I've been around it, I have no idea whatsoever what's going on. That's
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all fine and good as long as everything is going alright, but when a problem
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comes up, it makes it awfully hard to diagnose at times.. I have been
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seriously considering the Mac, but apparently you are even more isolated
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from the system with them than with windows.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
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92366 16-APR 19:23 General Information
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RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92360)
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From: DBREEDING To: 01GEN40
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> See what I mean, OS9/68000! The CoCo is left out in the cold! I
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> think I am beginning to see why people are dropping the CoCo all-
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> together, it is just an obsolete orphan. Noone is going to sup-
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> port it in a major way simply because of its limitations.
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Yes, that's just it. (I mentioned that in my last msg to you).. I think
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it's futile to expect much more _advancement_ for the CoCo. The fact
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of the matter is that there are just not enough users left to warrant
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doing an extensive project with it.. OTOH, for the current graphics programs
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being brought out for telecom, I think it would be hard to get a good
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image on the screen, due to the resolution capability and also the speed
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would be a serious limitation.
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The only logical solution is to either go with OSK or give up and get one
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of the mainstream systems, and as I said, unless you have an extremely
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great fondness for OS9, then you better go with the latter. I only hope
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we will be able to keep/get enough users in OSK to warrant further
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advancement. For my part, I don't want to go to the work of designing a
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program if there is no one to share it with. There's too much work to
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programming, although I do enjoy it, to do everything for srictly one's own
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use.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
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92379 17-APR 02:11 General Information
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RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92359)
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From: COCOKIWI To: 01GEN40
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I will have a copy<advance> of WIN-95 soon!<grin> Don,t put it down too roughly
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I have used windoze for a couple of years and have not had those problems!
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Smartdrv is a lousy Cache ,and is prob..the reason you lost data! it writes
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late! and if you kill the computer right after you save something...ZAPPP!
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goodbye DATA! SO! I use PCKWIK instead......lots better!......and it is 3.11
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also......A lot of games are going to be on windows from now on BECAUSE of
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WIN-95.....since DOS is PART of it!.......tis going to be hard for you!<grin>
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hmmm! I missed some thing ........and it is 3.11....should be!And My WFWG is
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3.11
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also.......<grin>........having the right tools helps!!!!
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Winprobe is nice!.....very handy....
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Dennis
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92380 17-APR 02:16 General Information
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RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92365)
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From: COCOKIWI To: DBREEDING
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I use Winprobe.......very GOOD.....Window Diagnostic.........does most of
|
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what AMI Diagnostics do in Windows........
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Nice!!!!!
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Dennis
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92381 17-APR 02:17 General Information
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RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92365)
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From: KSCALES To: DBREEDING
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> ... From all reports I've read, OS/2 is _FAR_ superior to MS-Dos,
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> but the big question is whether the public will buy it.
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From my perspective, yes, _FAR_ superior to MS-DOS and Windoze.
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Since it took less than about 3 months for WARP sales to exceed the
|
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1 million mark, it appears that a significant portion of the user
|
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community has decided to invest in OS/2. (Of course, several times
|
|
this number have already bought earlier releases of OS/2.)
|
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|
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> I think I would be happier with 8 meg.. As I understand it, 4 meg will
|
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> work but it makes thing rather tight.
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Yes, I agree -- 8 meg is most desirable (haven't tried less).
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> > I do not like the way WINDOZE assumes control of the system.
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I positively HATE the various assumptions that MS-DOS and Windoze
|
|
make (and require) about system configuration. They reflect a very
|
|
monopolistic mindset. (This reflects my frustration after spending
|
|
several weekends trying to install non-MS operating systems onto my PC.)
|
|
|
|
> I have been seriously considering the Mac, but apparently you are even
|
|
> more isolated from the system with them than with windows.
|
|
|
|
I hated the Mac until mine at work was replaced with a PowerPC (7100).
|
|
Yes, I feel _very_ much isolated from the system and cannot manipulate
|
|
things like I've grown accustomed under OS-9, but it is a pretty good
|
|
engine for running canned applications (FrameBuilder, etc.). However, I
|
|
would not buy one for myself unless there were an alternative to the
|
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"system 7" type of environment.
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Ken Scales Delphi:KSCALES Internet:kscales@delphi.com CIS:74646,2237
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92384 17-APR 22:11 General Information
|
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RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92381)
|
|
From: JOHNBAER To: KSCALES
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|
|
Hi ya Ken,
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RE: PowerPC
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|
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> ... However, I would not buy one for myself unless there were an
|
|
> alternative to the "system 7" type of environment.
|
|
|
|
Correct me if I'm wrong but, isn't OS9000 ported/being ported over
|
|
to the Power PC? Yea I know the $$$ will be high on this one.
|
|
|
|
Also I beleive, unix is ported over to it, but don't know what
|
|
flavor :). Thoughts ???
|
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|
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--
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|
John - < Posted with Ved 2.3.1 & InfoXpress 1.2.0 >
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|
I am Pentium of Borg. You will be approximated.
|
|
Resistance is more or less futile.
|
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|
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92385 18-APR 01:26 General Information
|
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RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92360)
|
|
From: ISC To: 01GEN40
|
|
|
|
> Hi Dave,
|
|
> See what I mean, OS9/68000! The CoCo is left out in the cold! I
|
|
> think I am beginning to see why people are dropping the CoCo all-
|
|
> together, it is just an obsolete orphan. Noone is going to sup-
|
|
> port it in a major way simply because of its limitations.
|
|
> See ya among the stars...
|
|
>
|
|
> LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
|
|
>
|
|
> Peace and Long Life...
|
|
>
|
|
> Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
|
|
>
|
|
> -= GEN =-
|
|
>
|
|
Maybe so, but wait until you see what OS/2 will do to you and your system!
|
|
|
|
Good Luck!
|
|
|
|
Bill
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92388 19-APR 07:36 General Information
|
|
RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92379)
|
|
From: LMCCLURE To: COCOKIWI
|
|
|
|
"Smartdrv is a lousy Cache ,and is prob..the reason you
|
|
lost data! it writes late! and if you kill the computer
|
|
right after you save something...ZAPPP! goodbye DATA! "
|
|
|
|
Smartdrive has an option switch to turn off write cacheing (AKA "lazy
|
|
writes").
|
|
|
|
The switch can be set per drive (i.e., so that one could turn off write
|
|
cacheing to floppies, but leave it on the hard drive if desired).
|
|
|
|
Some people believe write cacheing is the root of all evil, and uniformly
|
|
recommend turning it off. In actuality, the danger depends on the user
|
|
and the OS. The ICD hard drive software on my ST supports write cacheing,
|
|
and I keep it turned on, and have not experienced any loss of data that I
|
|
would attribute to it. (Loose data cables and failing power supplies, yes,
|
|
but not due to write cacheing). Of course, my ST uses a stable, single
|
|
tasking OS, and Windows ain't either. <grin>
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|
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92390 20-APR 00:22 General Information
|
|
RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92384)
|
|
From: KSCALES To: JOHNBAER
|
|
|
|
> Correct me if I'm wrong but, isn't OS9000 ported/being ported over
|
|
> to the Power PC? Yea I know the $$$ will be high on this one.
|
|
|
|
A port is being done by Microware to run on the PowerPC chip. Note that
|
|
this is not necessarily equivalent to being a version targetted for the
|
|
specific hardware architecture (display, drives, etc.) as implemented
|
|
in the Mac PowerPC. Configuration-specific drivers (e.g., video graphics),
|
|
etc. would still be required, equivalent to what Tandy licensed for the
|
|
CoCo port of 6809 OS-9.
|
|
|
|
And then the applications-base would still need to be developed/ported.
|
|
|
|
> Also I beleive, unix is ported over to it, but don't know what
|
|
> flavor :). Thoughts ???
|
|
|
|
I know that a version of AIX has been ported to run on PowerPC-based
|
|
VME systems -- we will be using this in one of our products at work.
|
|
Again, dunno if a specific port for the Mac PPC architecture is in the
|
|
works.
|
|
|
|
Right now, I highly doubt that any of this would draw me into getting
|
|
a system based upon the current Mac architecture.
|
|
|
|
I have a dusty CC3 OS-9/6809 system, an extremely heavily-used MM/1
|
|
OS-9/68000 system, and a PC sitting here waiting for me to replace its
|
|
current handicap with OS/2, Linux, and OS-9000. (All packages available
|
|
and previously installed/tested; just need the time to re-organize and
|
|
re-install them to co-exist... Time is the main constraint.)
|
|
|
|
Cheers... / Ken
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Ken Scales Delphi:KSCALES Internet:kscales@delphi.com CIS:74646,2237
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92399 22-APR 01:02 General Information
|
|
RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92381)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: KSCALES
|
|
|
|
> > ... From all reports I've read, OS/2 is _FAR_ superior to MS-Dos,
|
|
> > but the big question is whether the public will buy it.
|
|
>
|
|
> From my perspective, yes, _FAR_ superior to MS-DOS and Windoze.
|
|
>
|
|
> Since it took less than about 3 months for WARP sales to exceed the
|
|
> 1 million mark, it appears that a significant portion of the user
|
|
|
|
I do hope it does become a viable market. I think most everyone who would
|
|
be "in the know" agrees that OS/2 is by far the best.. However, I've read
|
|
a few articles that do think that good as it is, Windows is too deeply
|
|
implanted to be usurped.
|
|
|
|
> > > I do not like the way WINDOZE assumes control of the system.
|
|
>
|
|
> I positively HATE the various assumptions that MS-DOS and Windoze
|
|
> make (and require) about system configuration. They reflect a very
|
|
> monopolistic mindset. (This reflects my frustration after spending
|
|
> several weekends trying to install non-MS operating systems onto my PC.)
|
|
|
|
I have not been directly involved with the PC, except for a few sessions
|
|
on other peoples' machines. I suppose that if I had one, I'd learn more but
|
|
it appears that it is very hard to be able to determine just how everything
|
|
works.. And for someone who cut his teeth on OS9, so to speak, this is
|
|
something that is hard to get used to.
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
|
|
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|
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|
|
|
|
92408 22-APR 17:00 General Information
|
|
RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92308)
|
|
From: JHICKLE To: 01GEN40
|
|
|
|
Coherent is, i mean WAS, a UNIX OS from Mark Williams Company. It was
|
|
affordable ($99) compared to $500 for other commercially available UNIX
|
|
products. It also was easy to install, only ate up about 10 megs of
|
|
your hard drive, and except for the last versions would run on a '286.
|
|
|
|
There are former MWC employees who monitor comp.os.coherent and the
|
|
MWC forum (UNIXAVEN) on ci$, who are very helpful, like the folks
|
|
who hang out here in the os9 forum. People who write virus programs
|
|
can be found over in the PC forums. Wash yer hands after you visit
|
|
over there.
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
92409 22-APR 17:10 General Information
|
|
RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92299)
|
|
From: JHICKLE To: JOHNREED (NR)
|
|
|
|
I can live with being orphaned again; it's bound to happen to every system
|
|
..we just hang in there longer than the average bear. I'm especially
|
|
unhappy about Coherent, because within a month after I installed it and
|
|
ported a project i've been working on from os9, the company disappeared.
|
|
This is a commercial project and i can't give copies of Coherent to my
|
|
clients, so i must find another OS. I refuse to blow $500 for Solaris
|
|
or Unixware (or whatever) and risk them DC'ing the product. Linux here
|
|
i come.
|
|
|
|
BTW, i tried porting my project to Windoze, and after 2 months still
|
|
couldn't get the thing running. Apparently THERE IS NO standard
|
|
input/output so you can't redirect them. Toss out all of your
|
|
programs that work as filters.
|
|
-jim
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
92412 23-APR 11:38 General Information
|
|
RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92409)
|
|
From: NETCRUISER To: JHICKLE (NR)
|
|
|
|
yeah, but the DLLs are nice. OW! who threw that?
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92414 23-APR 12:07 General Information
|
|
RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92364)
|
|
From: 01GEN40 To: DBREEDING
|
|
|
|
Hi Dave,
|
|
|
|
I need an offline reader, thats all there is to it! It is quite
|
|
difficult to "quote" when replying online.
|
|
I agree with you 100% with your last massage to me. One thing
|
|
that is also spurring me on to a PC is the fact that I am taking
|
|
a course in PC repair. Now, oviously, PC does not include my
|
|
trusty little CoCo. Your right, if I want to stay with OS-9, I
|
|
will have to upgrade to a 68K machine. But, like you said, it
|
|
can be a much more expensive endevour than going with a PC. As
|
|
a matter of fact, just to make a point in favor of the PC, the
|
|
price has dropped by $29.00 for the 486DX2-66Mh CPU. This, in
|
|
just one week. I can get it for $140.00 right now. That is an
|
|
Intel chip. Now, I do know that the 486 is slowly taking back-
|
|
seat to the newer Pentium, but, the way I see it is that the 486
|
|
will probably be around for a long time to come. After all, you
|
|
can still get an old XT with an 8088/8086 processor, 286s can
|
|
still be had and the 386 is definitly still around. Ah, enough
|
|
of that.
|
|
I know, basically, I want the power of the PC just to take
|
|
advantage of the vastness of the Internet. I spent about 4 hours
|
|
on it just last Sunday! That, just in the Newsgroups, and there
|
|
is a vast number of those! I may spend more time on the PC when
|
|
I am out here, but, only if I am going to spent TIME on the In-
|
|
ternet. I will still use my trusty CoCo to DL files for it. I
|
|
cannot do that with the PC.
|
|
Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
|
|
|
|
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
|
|
|
|
Peace and Long Life...
|
|
|
|
Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
|
|
|
|
-= GEN =-
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92415 23-APR 12:24 General Information
|
|
RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92366)
|
|
From: 01GEN40 To: DBREEDING
|
|
|
|
Hi again,
|
|
|
|
Programming on the CoCo, for me, is just that, for fun. But, I
|
|
also do it for the learning adventure. Just a couple of weeks ago
|
|
I learned how to set/clear the LSB in a byte. I am working on a
|
|
project that, among other things, I needed to retrieve the name
|
|
from a disk. OS-9 sets the least significant bit to indicate the
|
|
end of a string. That was a great learning experience for me and
|
|
has opened the door wider for other posibilties.
|
|
I look at the CoCo as other people look at the Commadore. They
|
|
both may be orphans in this high tech world, but people are still
|
|
finding a place for them to fit into their lives. Maybe just as
|
|
a hobby but what the heck?
|
|
Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
|
|
|
|
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
|
|
|
|
Peace and Long Life...
|
|
|
|
Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
|
|
|
|
-= GEN =-
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92416 23-APR 12:47 General Information
|
|
RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92379)
|
|
From: 01GEN40 To: COCOKIWI
|
|
|
|
Hi Dennis,
|
|
|
|
There must have been one BIG mis-understanding of that message I
|
|
left about my experience with WINDOZE FWG V3.11. I lost no DATA!
|
|
I lost control of the machine and my existing network to WINDOZE.
|
|
I do not like the fact that it *ASSUMES* control. I want the
|
|
machine to work the way I configure it, not the way Microsoft has
|
|
WINDOZE configure it. I have NO problem with Smartdrv. I know
|
|
about the fact that it writes late, I have no problem with that.
|
|
The machine sits for at least 10 minutes after I have done the
|
|
tape backup. No processes are running. I just switch it off. I
|
|
do the same with my CoCo. I have nothing running before I switch
|
|
it off.
|
|
Someone out here told me that the Smartdrv in WINDOZE was the
|
|
same one that comes with DOS V6.2. WINDOZE modified my AUTOEXEC-
|
|
BAT file so that Smartdrv was loaded from the WINDOZE directory
|
|
and not the DOS directory. I did not find this out until after I
|
|
had already wiped WINDOZE off the HD and had booted the machine a
|
|
few days letter spoting an ERROR message flash by on the screen.
|
|
I re-booted and watched for the ERROR message. It was an MS-DOS
|
|
equivelent to "file not found". I examined the AUTOEXEC.BAT file
|
|
and found this corruption done by WINDOZE and fixed it. Sorry for
|
|
any confusion and hope this will clear it up.
|
|
Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
|
|
|
|
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
|
|
|
|
Peace and Long Life...
|
|
|
|
Siran of Vlcan (CMDR)
|
|
|
|
-= GEN =-
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
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|
|
92417 23-APR 12:54 General Information
|
|
RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92408)
|
|
From: 01GEN40 To: JHICKLE (NR)
|
|
|
|
Thanks for the explanation of Coherent, and, your warning,
|
|
about the PC forums, is duley noted. Thanks for the reply...
|
|
See ya among the stars...
|
|
|
|
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
|
|
|
|
Peace and Long Life...
|
|
|
|
Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
|
|
|
|
-= GEN =-
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92419 23-APR 13:21 General Information
|
|
RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92415)
|
|
From: 01GEN40 To: DBREEDING
|
|
|
|
Uh, duhh! In message #92415, that should have been MSB Most
|
|
Significant Bit, not LSB. See, still learning!
|
|
|
|
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
|
|
|
|
Peace and Long Life...
|
|
|
|
Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
|
|
|
|
-= GEN =-
|
|
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|
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|
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|
92427 23-APR 17:12 General Information
|
|
RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92399)
|
|
From: MITHELEN To: DBREEDING (NR)
|
|
|
|
Well... I travel around to many offices in and around Chicago for work, and
|
|
in the last few months, almost ALL of them have partially, or totally
|
|
switched over to OS/2... And it seems that most people tend to use the same
|
|
setup at home as they do at work... So.. I think OS/2 is here to stay and
|
|
will make a major dent in the home system market this year...
|
|
--
|
|
Paul
|
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92428 23-APR 17:54 General Information
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RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92409)
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From: GREGL To: JHICKLE (NR)
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I suspect Coherent took a big hit by the release of Linux over the years,
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and simply couldn't stay in business because of it. Lots of people used
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Coherent as a low-cost UNIX operating system and, once Linux appeared as
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freeware, Coherent lost the battle. If you want to move into Linux, you
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might pick up a copy of the Slackware Linux CD-ROM.
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-- Greg
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92438 23-APR 23:35 General Information
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RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92428)
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From: MITHELEN To: GREGL (NR)
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Ya.. Linux is getting to be REALLY nice... I jsut recently changed from the
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Yggdrasil release of Linux, to the InfoMagic release, and really like the
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new bundel... The InfoMagic package is a 3 CD set, which inclides lots
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of extra's... And it only cost a few $$$ more...(Think I paid 25$ for it)
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I've seen one or two other Linux distribution CD's, but so far, this
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InfoMagic one seems the best deal...
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--
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Paul
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92441 24-APR 17:01 General Information
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RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92415)
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From: NETCRUISER To: 01GEN40 (NR)
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its just fun! dont feel ashamed because there is a soft spot in your heart for
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an
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obsolete machine like the coco... there is a lot i WOULD do w my coco that i
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wouldnt DREAM of trying with an
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IBM -- such as wiring up stuff to it or doing stuff like making a process
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launching
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daemon, etc, etc.
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ya gotta love it.
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TTYL
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92445 24-APR 17:20 General Information
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RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92438)
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From: NETCRUISER To: MITHELEN (NR)
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could i have an address on where to pick up those CDs?
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End of Thread.
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92354 16-APR 01:36 General Information
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RE: coco3 problems (Re: Msg 92338)
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From: ISC To: COCOKIWI
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> We had a story here last week of three guys at a school fooling around with a
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> Gopher and some highly explosive liquid....util one of em! decided to light up
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> !!!!!!!!!!*******BOOM********!!!!!!!!!!!....The three of em! got blown out the
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> door! 16 students slightly injured.....The gopher survived....
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> Dennis
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>
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Dennis,
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Someone smoking in the Chemistry Lab? What a cretin! Or is that gopher
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broke?!!? Oh, never mind. <grin>
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Bill
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92378 17-APR 01:55 General Information
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RE: coco3 problems (Re: Msg 92354)
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From: COCOKIWI To: ISC
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got you! Nooooooo! The CUSTODIANS...<janitors???><Grin> in the Custodians
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place...wherever they put em!<g>
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Dennis
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End of Thread.
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92355 16-APR 09:03 General Information
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OS9000
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From: PHILSCHERER To: ALL
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Is there anyone here interested in an OS9000 system? <Phil>
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92356 16-APR 11:11 General Information
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RE: OS9000 (Re: Msg 92355)
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From: JOHNREED To: PHILSCHERER
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> Is there anyone here interested in an OS9000 system? <Phil>
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>
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I have a large bruise on my backside and a sore knee from kicking
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myself every time I remember passing up the bargain offer on
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OS-9000 a few "Fests" ago in Chicago. I have all the hardware
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I need (and then some), but if you are selling the operating
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system at a price I can swallow, I may be interested. (email?).
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********************************
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John R. Wainwright <<CIS -- 72517,676>> <<DELPHI -- JOHNREED>>
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92367 16-APR 19:38 General Information
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RE: OS9000 (Re: Msg 92356)
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From: PHILSCHERER To: JOHNREED
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Hi John--E-Mail is fine. <Phil>
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92371 16-APR 20:54 General Information
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RE: OS9000 (Re: Msg 92355)
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From: JEJONES To: PHILSCHERER
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> Is there anyone here interested in an OS9000 system? <Phil>
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I've certainly given thought to it; I'd love to have a laptop system
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running OS-9 or OS-9000, and currently the way to do that would be
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to get a PClone laptop and run OS-9000 on it. (Are there PowerPC
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laptops?)
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Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors.
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92387 19-APR 02:37 General Information
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RE: OS9000 (Re: Msg 92371)
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From: AJMLFCO To: JEJONES
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When I was at a "Real-Time-Computer" trade show recently, I asked
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about OS-9000 on PowerPC. I came away with the impression that the
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PowerPC's we are going to see for the desktop are not too compatible
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with the VME versions. Since we would not be able to run OS-9000 on
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desktop and ruggedized PCs (PowerPC-CPUs), we have lost interest in
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it. Going to see what we can do with NT instead. I want to avoid
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VME and such beasts as much as possible--way too expensive and
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complex. Leave it for the military or someone with $$$ to burn.
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Maybe I got the wrong impression? Do you think OS9, 9000 will run
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on the new IBM PowerPC machines due out soon?
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Allen Morgan
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92391 21-APR 05:38 General Information
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RE: OS9000 (Re: Msg 92387)
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From: BROWN80 To: AJMLFCO (NR)
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IBM is planning to use power PC's in all of their new computers. Who Knows
|
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some day they may go to an Alpha type chip. Right now they frequently use
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an RS6000 to interface an AS400 with other computers. I think they may
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use OS9 for power PC's to interface where a real time data collection or
|
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control is needed. These boxes may be a little expensive for guys like us
|
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but maybe personal versions may come out later. I understand that some
|
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of the newer Power PC chips have been designed to work in parallel. That
|
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could lead to a very flexible design in computers. So much for the rumor
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mill.
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John Brown
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End of Thread.
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92357 16-APR 11:19 OSK Applications
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Ghostscript
|
|
From: JOHNREED To: ALL
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|
For the Ghostscript users, I have just downloaded the source for
|
|
Ghostscript ver 3.33. This latest public release from Aladdin has
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more goodies, drivers, and support for Adobe PDF ("Acrobat") files.
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|
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|
I have just started on the process of porting it to the MM/1 - hope
|
|
to have it running in time for the Fest in Elgin. I DO have version
|
|
3.12 in pretty good shape, but I have not uploaded it because I was
|
|
waiting for this one. Ver 3.12 has Postscript "level 2" support, and
|
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I have made some improvements in the "Kwindows" display driver.
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See you in Chicago
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********************************
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|
John R. Wainwright <<CIS -- 72517,676>> <<DELPHI -- JOHNREED>>
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92372 16-APR 20:54 OSK Applications
|
|
RE: Ghostscript (Re: Msg 92357)
|
|
From: JEJONES To: JOHNREED
|
|
|
|
> Ver 3.12 has Postscript "level 2" support, and
|
|
> I have made some improvements in the "Kwindows" display driver.
|
|
|
|
Yow! The 2.whatever KWindows driver was pretty darned good, so if
|
|
this one is improved, I'm definitely going to be impressed.
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|
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|
Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors.
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|
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End of Thread.
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92361 16-APR 15:24 General Information
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Mistaken Smartdrv info.
|
|
From: JMURPHY To: 01GEN40
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|
|
|
>I use SmartDrive to speed up HD access and just
|
|
> recently found out that WINDOZE had corrupted my Autoexec.bat file
|
|
> by having smartdrv loaded from the WINDOZE directory. I cannot keep
|
|
> up with the 486 now, again! Disk access is much faster since I have
|
|
> Smartdrv loaded from the DOS directory, again.
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|
|
|
Hmm, if you do a binary compare of the SMARTDRV.EXE from DOS 6.2 and
|
|
the SMARTDRV.EXE from Windows for Workgroups 3.11, you will see that the
|
|
files are EXACTLY the same.
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|
|
|
In other words, if the WfWG version gave you problems, so will the DOS
|
|
version. Be careful.
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|
|
John
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92413 23-APR 11:38 General Information
|
|
RE: Mistaken Smartdrv info. (Re: Msg 92361)
|
|
From: 01GEN40 To: JMURPHY
|
|
|
|
Hi John,
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|
|
|
I think you mis-understood the problem I had. I have no problem
|
|
with Smartdrv, I have a problem with WINDOZE *ASSUMING* control of
|
|
the machine. When I run the Novell Netware software I cannot run
|
|
Smartdrv. So I "REM" it out in the AUTOEXEC.BAT file unless I am
|
|
not going to run the network. WINDOZE For Workgroups somehow re-
|
|
moved the "REM" ... Strike this last statement. What WINDOZE did
|
|
was to modify the line that loads Smartdrv from the DOS directory
|
|
so that it would be loaded from the WINDOZE directory. This tells
|
|
me that Microsoft assumes that everyone will boot up into WINDOZE!
|
|
I do not! As a matter of fact, I do not use WINDOZE to run any of
|
|
software I use for work. So, it would be useless for me to boot
|
|
into WINDOZE. I hope that this will clear up some of the confu-
|
|
sion. Thanks for the reply... Se ya among the stars...
|
|
|
|
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
|
|
|
|
Peace and Long Life...
|
|
|
|
Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
|
|
|
|
-= GEN =-
|
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|
-*-
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|
92418 23-APR 13:04 General Information
|
|
RE: Mistaken Smartdrv info. (Re: Msg 92413)
|
|
From: JMURPHY To: 01GEN40
|
|
|
|
> Hi John,
|
|
>
|
|
> I think you mis-understood the problem I had. I have no problem
|
|
> with Smartdrv, I have a problem with WINDOZE *ASSUMING* control of
|
|
> the machine.
|
|
|
|
Sorry, I misunderstood. The msg I replied to originally said:
|
|
|
|
> I use SmartDrive to speed up HD access and just
|
|
>recently found out that WINDOZE had corrupted my Autoexec.bat file
|
|
>by having smartdrv loaded from the WINDOZE directory.
|
|
|
|
I thought you meant smartdrv had corrupted a file. My mistake.
|
|
|
|
> When I run the Novell Netware software I cannot run
|
|
> Smartdrv.
|
|
|
|
Sure you can. Hundreds of thousands of PC's are running both.
|
|
Call Novell tech support, or MS tech support. They'll get
|
|
you fixed up in 90 seconds flat. (That doesn't include the "hold"
|
|
times, though).
|
|
|
|
> So I "REM" it out in the AUTOEXEC.BAT file unless I am
|
|
> not going to run the network. WINDOZE For Workgroups somehow re-
|
|
> moved the "REM" ... Strike this last statement. What WINDOZE did
|
|
> was to modify the line that loads Smartdrv from the DOS directory
|
|
> so that it would be loaded from the WINDOZE directory. This tells
|
|
> me that Microsoft assumes that everyone will boot up into WINDOZE!
|
|
|
|
This tells me that if you install Windows(c), the software thinks you
|
|
are going to run Windows. This is probably a safe assumption.
|
|
|
|
> I do not! As a matter of fact, I do not use WINDOZE to run any of
|
|
> software I use for work. So, it would be useless for me to boot
|
|
> into WINDOZE.
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|
|
|
So why install it in the first place, hmm...
|
|
|
|
John Murphy
|
|
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|
-*-
|
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|
92422 23-APR 14:11 General Information
|
|
RE: Mistaken Smartdrv info. (Re: Msg 92418)
|
|
From: 01GEN40 To: JMURPHY
|
|
|
|
Hi John,
|
|
|
|
>This tells me that if you install Windows(c), the software thinks you
|
|
are going to run Windows. This is probably a safe assumption.
|
|
|
|
Soory John, but I do not give WINDOZE any credit for THINKING. It
|
|
does what the guys at Microsoft wanted it to do, *ASSUME CONTROL*! I
|
|
do not like software that *ASSUMES* control when there is software
|
|
already existing to control the machine, as configured by ME.
|
|
I plan on running OS/2 Warp on my 486 when I am finished building
|
|
it. When installed, IT will assume control, by design. But, I will
|
|
also study it and re-configure it, if needed, as needed. There will
|
|
be no other controlling software for Warp to *ASSUME* control from.
|
|
For me to have a better attitude toward WINDOZE FWG V3.11, it
|
|
should have been given an install procedure that would recognize an
|
|
existing controlling software and given me the option to turn the
|
|
control of the machine over to it. That is what I do not like about
|
|
Microsoft, and they are probably right, that a casual user will not
|
|
care as long as the machine/software does what he/she wants. Me,
|
|
I want the machine/software to do what I want the way I want it done.
|
|
My CoCo runs the way I want it to, the way I configured it to. It
|
|
does not work the way Radio Shack wanted. An example is that I made
|
|
a patch to the stock Init module to have cc3go loaded from the CMDS
|
|
directory and then, once done, removed from memory since it was
|
|
used only once during bootup anyway. That patch is here on Delphi
|
|
by the way, for others to use. Another example is that I got rid
|
|
of that ugly little green screen that my CoCo boots into. It boots
|
|
from a black screen. I had to work on one of the modules in the
|
|
kernal to achieve this. Well, enough said... Thanks for the
|
|
reply... See ya among the stars...
|
|
|
|
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
|
|
|
|
Peace and Long Life...
|
|
|
|
Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
|
|
|
|
-= GEN =-
|
|
|
|
-*-
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92424 23-APR 15:04 General Information
|
|
RE: Mistaken Smartdrv info. (Re: Msg 92422)
|
|
From: JMURPHY To: 01GEN40 (NR)
|
|
|
|
> I plan on running OS/2 Warp on my 486 when I am finished building
|
|
> it. When installed, IT will assume control, by design. But, I will
|
|
> also study it and re-configure it, if needed, as needed.
|
|
|
|
Oh, but there is no point in studying and re-configuring WfWG,
|
|
if needed. I see.
|
|
|
|
> For me to have a better attitude toward WINDOZE FWG V3.11, it
|
|
> should have been given an install procedure that would recognize an
|
|
> existing controlling software and given me the option to turn the
|
|
> control of the machine over to it.
|
|
|
|
It does. It asks before changing autoexec and config, it allows you
|
|
to make changes to the changes it proposed, it allows you to totally
|
|
discard the changes it made.
|
|
|
|
> My CoCo runs the way I want it to, the way I configured it to. It
|
|
> does not work the way Radio Shack wanted. An example is that I made
|
|
> a patch to the stock Init module to have cc3go loaded from the CMDS
|
|
> directory and then, once done, removed from memory since it was
|
|
> used only once during bootup anyway. That patch is here on Delphi
|
|
> by the way, for others to use. Another example is that I got rid
|
|
> of that ugly little green screen that my CoCo boots into. It boots
|
|
> from a black screen. I had to work on one of the modules in the
|
|
> kernal to achieve this.
|
|
|
|
Again you took the time to see what the "stock" system does.
|
|
You took the time to see what changes you wanted. You made
|
|
those changes.
|
|
|
|
If you reloaded OS-9 from the stock disks, you'd have to make
|
|
those changes again, wouldn't you?
|
|
|
|
Face it. You were in a hurry when you installed Windows.
|
|
You didn't check to see what changes it was making when
|
|
it asked you to review those changes. You didn't review
|
|
those changes after you finished installing.
|
|
|
|
You were in a hurry when you ripped out Windows. You
|
|
didn't check your autoexec or config. Is this Microsoft's
|
|
fault? I don't think so. The Windows SETUP program did
|
|
what YOU told it to do.
|
|
|
|
But of course, because you did it YOUR way, this
|
|
must be a problem with Microsoft ?!?! Guess again.
|
|
It seems that because the product is from Microsoft,
|
|
you won't take the time to learn anything about it. This
|
|
is simply unfair. You have stated that you are willing
|
|
to take the time to learn Warp, you have demonstrated
|
|
that you have taken the time to learn OS-9, and yet all
|
|
Microsoft products are fatally flawed because you won't
|
|
learn them. I think you may have far more problems
|
|
using Warp than you expect. Have fun.
|
|
|
|
John Murphy
|
|
|
|
John Murphy
|
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|
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|
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92442 24-APR 17:05 General Information
|
|
RE: Mistaken Smartdrv info. (Re: Msg 92422)
|
|
From: NETCRUISER To: 01GEN40 (NR)
|
|
|
|
im interested in how you did both...
|
|
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|
-*-
|
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|
|
92444 24-APR 17:12 General Information
|
|
RE: Mistaken Smartdrv info. (Re: Msg 92424)
|
|
From: NETCRUISER To: JMURPHY (NR)
|
|
|
|
may i suggest that this discussion is verging on being off-topic for this
|
|
forum?
|
|
also, please, let's not start a flame war -- this forum has had enough of
|
|
them, and you two seem on the edge.
|
|
|
|
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|
|
End of Thread.
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|
92362 16-APR 18:57 Programmers Den
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|
|
|
From: WDTV5 To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Welp, has anyone managed to get the package "KA9Q" to run on their
|
|
coco yet?
|
|
So far, all I have had it do was lock the system up with the hard drive
|
|
access lite on. I can still "clear" to other windows, but theres no
|
|
keyboard response or mouse (seriel) effects detectable. Only way out
|
|
is that famous little button on the back apron of the machine.
|
|
|
|
Ideas or help gratefully appreciated. I've made mail comments and
|
|
questions to the uploader, but apparently we don't speak the same
|
|
language as all his replies have been regarding AmiTCP even if I
|
|
have stated several times this is a coco3/os9l2/nitros9 system.
|
|
|
|
Cheers all, Gene
|
|
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|
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|
92368 16-APR 20:01 General Information
|
|
Conference Reminder
|
|
From: THETAURUS To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Tomorrow(Monday) Night at 10:00 PM is going to be the 'Project
|
|
Overview' edition of OS-9 Late Night. I'm going to be discussing
|
|
the latest project going on within the OS-9 Users Group, to
|
|
establish an OS-9 information sourcebook. This is not actually
|
|
going to be a hardcopy 'book' mind you(tho it could be a future
|
|
possibility I would imagine, given the demand. Anwyay...). As some
|
|
of you might already know from what I mentioned in previous
|
|
conferences, we are going to begin compiling information relating
|
|
to different areas of interest to OS-9. As this information is
|
|
recieved it will be added to the respective database that it
|
|
belongs in. To clarify a bit, these different categories be a:
|
|
userlist
|
|
bbslist
|
|
clublist
|
|
vendorlist
|
|
a list for OS-9 based publications such as magazines and
|
|
newsletters
|
|
business and industrial users list
|
|
|
|
|
|
More will be added in the future as they become in demand. For
|
|
instance, an orphanware database is soemething I personally feel
|
|
will be of use to the OS-9 community and I know there will be
|
|
others that some will think up in the future. I won't go too much
|
|
further into detail right now but will be typing up a post
|
|
sometime soon and I will also answer any questions tomorrow night.
|
|
|
|
Since it appears that the latest MOTD won't be recieved by
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tomorrow(I imagine it either hasn't gone to press yet, or it is
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not ready to ship), I will *TRY* to get a more detailed post up
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either tonight or early tomorrow night so you can catch up on it
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the basic details of this project before coming to conference.
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This was why I was pushing the conference back in the first place.
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I was hoping everyone would have their MOTD's before the
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conference to take care of the basics and allow us to jump right
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into the more advanced questions, but I won't delay it anymore.
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Without posting the article itself, I'll just try and get a simple
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post in forum, so try and look for it here a little before getting
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into conference so you can go over it a little offline.
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On another issue, the discussion of forum traffic slowing down
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as of late, *DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT* ;-). This happens a few times
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every year as most online services go through little slow periods,
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with people doing other things in 'real life'. Not that people
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selling off their OS-9 based systems at record pace or Zack
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Sessions leaving is going to HELP us any, but still it is not the
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end of the world(course we'll miss Zack).
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See Ya
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>Chris<
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92369 16-APR 20:01 Programmers Den
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Echo off trouble
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From: THETAURUS To: ALL
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I am working on a small Basic09 module that uses the Get/set
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stat syscall routines to turn echo off, to use in an editor I'm
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writing(another pet project). When I run it, there are no errors
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nor crashes and seems fine except that the echo doesn't get shut
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off. There is no change at all :-/
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Can anyone see what I did wrong with the following code?...
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PROCEDURE echoff
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TYPE registers=cc,a,b,dp:BYTE; x,y,u:INTEGER
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DIM regs:registers
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DIM callcode:BYTE
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DIM oldopts(32),newopts(32):BYTE
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DIM pd_eko:BYTE
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DIM ss_opt:BYTE
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regs.a:=0 \regs.b:=0 \regs.x:=ADDR(oldopts)
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pd_eko:=$04
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RUN syscall($8D,regs)
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newopts:=oldopts
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newopts(pd_eko):=0
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regs.x:=ADDR(newopts) \regs.a:=0 \regs.b:=0
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RUN syscall($8E,regs)
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END
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92374 16-APR 21:57 Programmers Den
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RE: Echo off trouble (Re: Msg 92369)
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From: RANDYKWILSON To: THETAURUS
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Chris,
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The numbers listed in the books for the various Opt flags are *offsets*, not
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item numbers. Again, you used the offset of EKO, but have the array (*opt(32))
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defaulting to unit numbers, Base 1. Basic09, unless told otherwise, assumes
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base 1.
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To fix, either add a BASE 0 command so that the array mimics offsets, or use
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EKOs item number ($05).
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Randy
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92375 16-APR 22:26 Programmers Den
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RE: Echo off trouble (Re: Msg 92369)
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From: DBREEDING To: THETAURUS
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> I am working on a small Basic09 module that uses the Get/set
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> stat syscall routines to turn echo off,
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> nor crashes and seems fine except that the echo doesn't get shut
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> off. There is no change at all :-/
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> PROCEDURE echoff
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> pd_eko:=$04
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> RUN syscall($8D,regs)
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> newopts:=oldopts
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> newopts(pd_eko):=0
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I think you have your offset to pd_eko wrong.. If this is a coco, look on
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pp. 6-3 thru 6-5. SS.Opt copies the path descriptor starting at PD.DV2
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thru PD.XON
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If you have a C compiler, you might look at scf.h or look at the source
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file for one of the assembler libraries to get a better feel for the
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offsets. (Same thing applies if you are working with OSK)
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The offset to pd_eko should be $24-$0A ($1a). I think this should get
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you on the right track..
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If you intend to set several, you might define a TYPE structure defining
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all the elements.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
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92377 16-APR 23:58 Programmers Den
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RE: Echo off trouble (Re: Msg 92375)
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From: RANDYKWILSON To: DBREEDING
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SS.Opt copies the entire 32 bytes listed on pages 6-4 and 6-5. This is PD.DTP
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to PD.PST inclusive. Therefore we have $24 - $20 = $04; the number Chris has.
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The only error is this is an offset, not an item number. Chris' only error
|
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was allowing Basic09 to default to Base 1 so that when he attacked #4, he
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got item 4 at an offset of 3 into the array.
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Randy
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92400 22-APR 01:02 Programmers Den
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RE: Echo off trouble (Re: Msg 92377)
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From: DBREEDING To: RANDYKWILSON
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> SS.Opt copies the entire 32 bytes listed on pages 6-4 and 6-5. This is
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> PD.DTP to PD.PST inclusive. Therefore we have $24 - $20 = $04; the number
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> Chris has. The only error is this is an offset, not an item number. Chris'
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> only error was allowing Basic09 to default to Base 1 so that when he
|
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> attacked #4, he got item 4 at an offset of 3 into the array.
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You're right. I grabbed my manual and looked too far back <G>.
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Actually, for documentational purposes more than anything else, the best
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way, as I suggested ( I think ), is to define a TYPE structure for the
|
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data. Makes it a lot clearer what you're doing.
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Little gotcha's like Chris got into sometimes make rough little buggers to
|
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diagnose if you aren't on your toes.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
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End of Thread.
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92370 16-APR 20:01 Programmers Den
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Another favor
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From: THETAURUS To: ALL
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I have another favor to ask of any Basic09 programmers out
|
|
there. I'm still trying to work out kinks in my 'Protector'
|
|
utility. I'm still trying to use syscall to figure out what device
|
|
is active as Std input, so to allow the utility to accept piped
|
|
input or input redirected from a file. My luck still isn't great,
|
|
and I was wondering if there is anyone out there who has done this
|
|
in Basic. If so, could you mail some sample code of how you did
|
|
this? The time I put into working on this program is erratic so I
|
|
don't remember the different problems I've had with it but I'll be
|
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darned if I figure this thing called programming out<Grin>.
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See Ya
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>Chris<
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92376 16-APR 22:26 Programmers Den
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RE: Another favor (Re: Msg 92370)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: THETAURUS
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|
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> utility. I'm still trying to use syscall to figure out what device
|
|
> is active as Std input, so to allow the utility to accept piped
|
|
> input or input redirected from a file.
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|
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|
Can't you use SS.DevNm? See p 8-115 in tech manual (coco).
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|
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you might do something like this:
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DIM buf:string[33]
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|
|
..
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buf="/" \ (* set up a leading slash
|
|
reg.a=0\reg.b=$0e\ reg.x=ADDR(buf)+1\ (* point to second char in buf
|
|
past the "/"
|
|
|
|
.. do syscall etc.
|
|
|
|
If this is OS9/6809 the last byte of the device name has msb set. You
|
|
need to parse this name and find it and POKE place, (LAND(PEEK(place),$7f))
|
|
and put a CR in next position following this one. (a null might work, for
|
|
OS9 calls.. If you are going to work with it as a string under B09, you
|
|
will need to poke $FF in that trailing space rather than a CR.
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-- David Breeding --
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|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
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-*-
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End of Thread.
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92373 16-APR 21:51 General Information
|
|
RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92340)
|
|
From: KNOT1 To: DBREEDING
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|
|
|
I've found copies of my disks needed to boot the system, but not my
|
|
originals. Though if it comes to it, looks like Dave Graham would
|
|
be able to suply replacements at a resonable fee. And yes, I've been
|
|
using a hard drive on my CoCo for a long time, and have worked with
|
|
computers since the CoCo 1. :-) I believe they probably still have
|
|
my cp/mv/ln program here that I made way back. This is much of my
|
|
reason for having gone with the MM/1, not having wanted to give up all
|
|
the stuff I've come to like about the CoCo and OS-9. So for now it
|
|
just seems to be a matter of waiting. Which won't hurt helping me to
|
|
save up the extra cash it will run me. :-)
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-*-
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92382 17-APR 02:43 General Information
|
|
RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92342)
|
|
From: PAUL8 To: CHARLESAM
|
|
|
|
On 14-APR 22:50 CHARLESAM said to PAUL8
|
|
} iI'll look forward to seeing you in Elgin. I'll be there saturday
|
|
}about noon. Regards Charlie
|
|
|
|
Charlie:
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|
|
Thanks for the reply.
|
|
|
|
Think I will beat you. I plan to be there Friday and Sat Nights - a rather
|
|
expensive vacation weekend (if you will).
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`[1;33;41mPaul - visit Boston - we need your money
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|
`[1;33;44mHappy Sailing; Another Day Above Ground
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`[1;30;45mRainbow V 1.14.2 for Delphi - Registered
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-*-
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92383 17-APR 21:17 General Information
|
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RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92382)
|
|
From: MITHELEN To: PAUL8
|
|
|
|
I took a weekend vacation to Boston a few years back (got free plane fair)
|
|
and didn't have nearly as much fun as I have had at any fest (Not to
|
|
put Boston down, it seemed like it would have been a fun place if one
|
|
particular person that went with me, and three other friends, had not
|
|
had his drivers liscense taken away the week before, and brought no
|
|
other type of of official identification) that weekend just happend to
|
|
coencide with my birthday... but needless to say, we were limited to where
|
|
we could go to celebrate ((Boston/MA must have the strictest ID checking
|
|
enforcement at bars/night clubs I have ever seen! BTW, we were all of legal
|
|
age) Some day I'll have to try to get back to Boston (and other areas in the
|
|
East Coast) to have a real vacation....
|
|
--
|
|
Paul
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End of Thread.
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|
92386 18-APR 21:23 OSK Applications
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RIBBS_OSK
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From: VAXELF To: ALL
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|
|
|
If you are going to Chicago Fest and wish to get a copy of the
|
|
NEW RIBBS_OSK BETA for the MM/1, then bring a diskette formatted with
|
|
|
|
typ=$27 sct=37 t0s=37.
|
|
|
|
You need to add your own utilities such as RunB,Shell,Tmode,Dir,Date,
|
|
Bgfx,Del,Lha,Math,Copy,& Display or in memory.
|
|
Ribbs OS9 Docs are included on the disk.
|
|
Once you put your utilites in the diskette CMDS, you will have a fully
|
|
functional BBS with a 100K Byte MessageBase. Just put the diskette in
|
|
your /dd floppy dirve (/d0), type chd /dd;chx /dd/cmds. Then type
|
|
RunB Ribbsmain. If your /dd is a harddrive or you want to run from a
|
|
second floppy, then you will need to copy the "ribbs.cfg" to the /DD
|
|
root Directory, before running RIBBS_OSK. It is setup for the /T3 port,
|
|
but if you wish to run from the /T0 port, you will need to run RConfig
|
|
and copy the SetBaud.t0 to SetBaud. (SetBaud is in the CMDS directory).
|
|
This has been many months of hard work for a bunch of us to take the
|
|
orginal Basi09 and 6809 ASM code and convert them to run under OSK Basic
|
|
and into 68000 code. We have made some improvement over the OS9 version.
|
|
Namely RIBBS_OSK will run LOCK BAUD at 38400 Baudrate. This allows TRUE
|
|
19200/16000/28400 BaudRate Connections. It also runs 100X faster than
|
|
RIBBS OS9 does.
|
|
If your are familiar or haave run RIBBS OS9, then this will be a snap
|
|
for you. IF not, the RIBBS DOCS are included on the diskette.
|
|
If you have a copy of the Basic09 Source code for UNBUNDLE and FREQ,
|
|
please E-Mail me a copy. These are the badly needed to round out the
|
|
modules that are missing.
|
|
|
|
John A. Donaldson
|
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RIBBS_OSK BETA Team Leader
|
|
|
|
PS. Look for KTerm V3.0 at the Fest TOO. Visit the Blackhawk booth.
|
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92392 21-APR 20:05 OSK Applications
|
|
RIBBS_OSK
|
|
From: VAXELF To: ALL
|
|
|
|
After the Fest, updates for Ribbs_OSK will be availble on the Ocean
|
|
Beach BBS. Warren hrach is sysop. Warren is the main beta site, so if you
|
|
have any questions or problems, he will be the best person to ask first.
|
|
His Internet address is
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|
|
warren@ocnbeach.jd.com
|
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John A. Donaldson
|
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RIBBS_OSK BETA Team Leader.
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92394 21-APR 22:50 OSK Applications
|
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RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87118)
|
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From: NETCRUISER To: WDTV5
|
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|
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preach on, brother WDTV5!
|
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-*-
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92402 22-APR 01:31 OSK Applications
|
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RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87110)
|
|
From: WA2EGP To: DSRTFOX (NR)
|
|
|
|
I think the only reasons for all the so-called antipollution "stuff" is that
|
|
a lot of people don't maintain their cars and it opens up a new market for
|
|
stuff we HAVE to buy.
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End of Thread.
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92395 21-APR 22:53 General Information
|
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RE: Printers (Re: Msg 87126)
|
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From: NETCRUISER To: ISC
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|
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i have a DECWriter ][ that i use as a printer -- it's highest speed is 300 baud,
|
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|
|
and the slowest is either 150 or 50, cant remember which -- got the thing out
|
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in the shed
|
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at the moment
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92396 21-APR 22:59 General Information
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RE: Think about it... (Re: Msg 87165)
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From: NETCRUISER To: WA2EGP
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i dont care what any of you say, the answer is "42"
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92401 22-APR 01:23 General Information
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RE: Think about it... (Re: Msg 92396)
|
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From: WA2EGP To: NETCRUISER
|
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|
And the question is "What is 6 by 9? Actually, at the speed of light the
|
|
shift of the light from the headlights would be so great that you couldn't see
|
|
it, so "would they work" might be translated into can you see them which is
|
|
more than likely no. If sending out EM radiation is what is meant by would they
|
|
|
|
work, then the answer is yes. Getting a Ford to light speed is definitely
|
|
impossible....getting one to any decent speed is improbable (grin). Actually,
|
|
some one did rearrange the equations so the negative number problem was
|
|
resolved and it looked like past the speed of light the energy requirements
|
|
were less as you got faster, opposite of slower than light. The time reversal
|
|
did appear, which lead to that famous limerick. Yep, you could arrive before
|
|
you left. At the speed of light, different story. Time would not pass in the
|
|
frame of reference of the car but would for an observer at some other speed.
|
|
I hope the driver turned on his lights before he left. Also would be a problem
|
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if he changed his mind during his trip (grin).
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92406 22-APR 15:27 General Information
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RE: Think about it... (Re: Msg 92401)
|
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From: NETCRUISER To: WA2EGP (NR)
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ow! qquit it! you're making my head hurt ;/
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End of Thread.
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92397 21-APR 23:15 General Information
|
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press return to continue?
|
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From: JEJONES To: GREGL
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|
|
What's causing that stray "Welcome....press RETURN to continue" message?
|
|
It shows up even if I have /length = 0, and it's keeping InfoXpress from
|
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getting into the forum.
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92407 22-APR 16:15 General Information
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RE: press return to continue? (Re: Msg 92397)
|
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From: TEDJAEGER To: JEJONES
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I don't know but it has stopped my infoXpress as well! Let me know
|
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if you find out, please!
|
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--TedJaeger
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92410 22-APR 21:34 General Information
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RE: press return to continue? (Re: Msg 92397)
|
|
From: JOHNBAER To: JEJONES
|
|
|
|
|
|
Yep! I found out the hardway also <G>. InfoXpress dies on entering this
|
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SIG. Just for grins, I told IX to skip this sig and tried all the others
|
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that I read. Found that only the OS-9 Sig has this problem. I do hope
|
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that this does get fixed fast.
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John -
|
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Posted `Live at this time' :(
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92411 22-APR 22:42 General Information
|
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RE: press return to continue? (Re: Msg 92397)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: JEJONES
|
|
|
|
> What's causing that stray "Welcome....press RETURN to continue" message?
|
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> It shows up even if I have /length = 0, and it's keeping InfoXpress from
|
|
> getting into the forum.
|
|
|
|
Yeah, Just found that little "gotcha", too.. Just fired up and went to take
|
|
a shower and came back to see the darn thing off-hook and IX at the main
|
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menu (and me paying l/d <GROAN> ) Reckon they've changed something here?
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|
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I just went into another window and typed echo >/t2 and got in. Kinda
|
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kludgy, but it works <G>
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-- David Breeding --
|
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CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
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92421 23-APR 13:31 General Information
|
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RE: press return to continue? (Re: Msg 92407)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: TEDJAEGER
|
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|
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> I don't know but it has stopped my infoXpress as well! Let me know
|
|
> if you find out, please!
|
|
> --TedJaeger
|
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|
|
A bugger, isn't it <G>... I already posted this (after your post), but
|
|
just in case you missed it, when the system stops, I go into another window
|
|
and issue the command "echo >/t2" (or whatever port you're using). It's
|
|
getting me in, sloppy, but it works... <G>
|
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-- David Breeding --
|
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CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
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92426 23-APR 17:08 General Information
|
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RE: press return to continue? (Re: Msg 92421)
|
|
From: MITHELEN To: JEJONES
|
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Sorry for messing all you off-line reader users up guys! My fault! I added
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a ".page" pause to the begining of the main sig banner to allow a chance
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for people to read the Delphi login messages before the screen cleared, and
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the banner was printed... I didn't expect this to cause problems, but I
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guess it did <blush>. And to make matters worse, I was outa town all weekend
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so I didn't find out about it til just a few minutes ago... It is back
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to the way it used to be... Sorry for the problems...
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--
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Paul Jerkatis
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OS-9 Sig Database Manager
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92430 23-APR 21:05 General Information
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RE: press return to continue? (Re: Msg 92397)
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From: HAWKSOFT To: JEJONES
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> What's causing that stray "Welcome....press RETURN to continue" message?
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> It shows up even if I have /length = 0, and it's keeping InfoXpress from
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> getting into the forum.
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>
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Hi James!!!
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Dunno why, but, it hapened to me just the last time.
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The temporary solution was to flip to another window and type:
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display d >/t3 (modem port)
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If it keeps up it IS going to bug me tho!!!!
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Chris
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:-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:
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Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM
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******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.02.00 >******************
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92398 22-APR 01:00 General Information
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OS manuals
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From: MRUPGRADE To: ALL
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I have a bunch of OS-9 Lev II manuals,, + Mv's,, and othe r miscel OS
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programs. I don't care to make theh 8 hr drive myself,, but can send 'em
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if someone can put 'em at their booth???
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Tilthen,, Terry g
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92403 22-APR 14:17 General Information
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Complete CoCo3 OS-9 Package.
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From: CARL_D To: ALL
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Can someone give me a bit of advice?
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I'm planning on picking up a 512K CoCo3 at the Chicago CoCoFest. I'd like to
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run an updated OS-9 system on it. Unfortunately I've been out of the CoCo
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Commun-
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ity for a while and I'm not sure what a system would include these days.
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I'd figure on the following.
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1) 512K CoCo3
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2) CM-8 or Composit Monitor
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3) Minimum 2 Floppy's, preferably some sort of larger size drive or a hard
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drive.
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4) Multi-Pak
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5) 6309 Upgrade (preferable but not essential)
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6) NitrOS-9 (or regular OS-9 with upgrade patches)
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7) Multi-Vue
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8) Assorted sharware and manuals
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any additions? comments?
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P.S. I really want to stay with the CoCo3 rather than an MM/1 or other OS-9
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system.
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92420 23-APR 13:31 General Information
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RE: Complete CoCo3 OS-9 Package. (Re: Msg 92403)
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From: DBREEDING To: CARL_D
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> Can someone give me a bit of advice?
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> I'm planning on picking up a 512K CoCo3 at the Chicago CoCoFest. I'd like
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> P.S. I really want to stay with the CoCo3 rather than an MM/1 or other
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> OS-9 system.
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Well, it all depends on what you want to do. The CoCo is still, IMO, a
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viable machine, but unless you are interested for the nostalgic value, you
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might be better advised as to go with OSK. It appears that development for
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the CoCo is slowing down, and by the time you paid for a complete CoCo
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system, it would be a good start toward an OSK system. But again, this
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decision is up to you.
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One suggestion, nowadays, I would prefer to have a 3-1/2" floppy drive in
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the system, if not two. If you don't have a hard drive, this would be an
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especially good move. You can use the 1.44 meg drives (cheap as a 720K
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drive and 720's are getting hard to come by) and then use the Dbl-Density
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disks and it will work well. That way, if you ever get another system, you
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can use these drives if you decide to abandon your coco.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
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92425 23-APR 15:19 General Information
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RE: Complete CoCo3 OS-9 Package. (Re: Msg 92420)
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From: CARL_D To: DBREEDING (NR)
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Thanks David
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Yes, I'm partly picking up a CoCo3 for the nostalgic value, and also because it
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was probably my favorite machine. I've got a PC and don't really need an OSK
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system. Appreciate the info on 1.44 m
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eg drives.
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End of Thread.
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92405 22-APR 15:24 General Information
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clbs
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From: NETCRUISER To: ALL
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im looking for a Co
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Co <oops> club here in the washington D.C. area/northern VA. any info?
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92423 23-APR 14:20 General Information
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RLL HD Troubles.
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From: 01GEN40 To: ALL
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Hello to all,
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Well, once again, I am in search of some problem solving. Basically,
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what I am doing is trying to upgrade my CoCos hard drive from an MFM to
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an RLL. (No I am not tring to make my MFM an RLL, that is beyond the
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scope of my skills, and is probably impossible anyway). In doing so, I
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have run into one minor problem. First the info:
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My current system consists of: CoCo 3, HD63B09EP cpu, 512K Memory
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Old style MPI w/new PAL chip and
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all pins #8 strapped. FD control-
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ler in slot 4, HD controller in
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slot 3. Slot 2 empty, modem is in
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slot 1.
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HD interface is B&B XT-RTC w/XT-ROM
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Controller is a WD1002A-WX1 (MFM)
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Hard drive is a Seagate ST-225 20Meg
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My new (to me) hardware......: Controller, WD1002A-27X (RLL)
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Hard drive, Seagate ST-238R 30Meg
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I have used 'ddmaker' to make 2 different descriptors, why? To have
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32 sectors per track, 940 tracks needs to be specified. To have 48 sec-
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tors per track, 615 tracks needs to be specified.
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Now, here is the problem. Using both of the parameter setups stated
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above, when trying to format the hard drive I receive ERROR #208 - Il-
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legal Service Request.
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I have made 1 major modification to the controller card, I removed
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the "ROM" and soldered in a socket so I could use my XT-ROM. No other
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modifications were made. I know that this hard drive works. I pulled
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it from my sons IBM XT when I gave him a 286 for Christmas last year.
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It worked flawlessly in the XT. It runs smooth and quite!
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My 20Meg, running as it is, sounds like it is about to "toss its
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cookies" all over my desk. I have to shut it down when I am not doing
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any disk accesses otherwise I lose access to it.
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If anyone has had any RLL experience and may have a solution to my
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problem, I would be most appreciative.
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Thanks in advance. See ya among the stars...
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LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
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Peace and Long Life...
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Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
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-= GEN =-
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92429 23-APR 20:14 General Information
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RE: RLL HD Troubles. (Re: Msg 92423)
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From: WDTV5 To: 01GEN40 (NR)
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Humm, I'm still scanning the dld msg, hang on. I do, having battled with
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exactly that setup for nearly 6 years here. It got retired 2 years ago
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though, bought a disto 4n1 with scsi. End of problems. One thing I'm
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not getting out of your msg is which slot the new controller is going in.
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I hope you remembere that the slot number you give ddmaker is one LESS
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than the slot its in. I did have mine in slot 3, and when I got the
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scsi up and running, I just dircopied the seagate over to the maxtor
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and went on about life. Now, the error 208 could also be in the clock
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vewrsion. Does your clock self set and keep time as well as the B&B
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clock chip can? Mine wasn't too good, off by 10 mins a month at best.
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I don't see anything wrong with the rest of the setup, and, by specing
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the slot numbers correctly, you can actually run both drives at the same
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time if you've power enough. I do, ppc supply on the back of the table
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runs it all. I'd run both if I could, at least long enough to get the
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error maker running. That was my experience with the setup. I had the
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most classroom time in os9 file structures on a hard drive 101 that
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you could imagine. And I too had that error 208 a couple of times, but
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that was years ago now. Clock slot #, drive slot #, and possibly a
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bad define in the descriptor are all that come to mind right now tho.
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?? didja put the -27x inbn the same XT-RTC, or a different one?
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Wish I had it hnd it in a minute or 30.
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Cheers Gene, Gene
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92443 24-APR 17:10 General Information
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RE: RLL HD Troubles. (Re: Msg 92423)
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From: NETCRUISER To: 01GEN40 (NR)
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1 you CAN make an MFM act like an RLL. not advisable. definite Bad Thing.
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2 talk to B&B. he'll walk you through it, if need be. I cant say enough
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about his support. I wouldnt have mine working now if it wasnt for him.
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BTW, we are using the same HD controller. Ill have to quote your message again
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to
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see if the HD was similar, and if it is, I could mail you a disk as soon as i
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find a mailer.
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TTYL
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End of Thread.
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92431 23-APR 21:32 General Information
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UUdecoding
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From: TEDJAEGER To: ALL
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Could anyone tell me what that number in the begin line of a
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uuencoded file means? I have a begin line reading:
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begin 644 .....
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Could it be the number of lines that uudecode will try to decode?
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Thanks!
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Bests
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---TedJaeger
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92435 23-APR 22:30 General Information
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RE: UUdecoding (Re: Msg 92431)
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From: RANDYKWILSON To: TEDJAEGER (NR)
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Ted,
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It's the file attributes, Unix style. In octal. Simplifying a bit, 4 = read, 2=
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write, and 1 = execute. Unix has permissions for owner, group, and public. So in
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this case, it is owner read/write, and group and public read only.
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And before ye "loud mouths" (:> ) jump for the reply key, yes, Unix attributes
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are more complex than that. But when was the last time you uuencoded a
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searchable directory or a symbolic link? :>
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Randy
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92440 24-APR 08:12 General Information
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RE: UUdecoding (Re: Msg 92431)
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From: JEJONES To: TEDJAEGER (NR)
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> Could anyone tell me what that number in the begin line of a
|
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> uuencoded file means? I have a begin line reading:
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>
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> begin 644 .....
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>
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> Could it be the number of lines that uudecode will try to decode?
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Nope...it's the octal (!) permission bits for the file--it's the raw
|
|
Unix permission bits, so anyone writing a uudecode will want to map
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them to corresponding permissions for OS-9.
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Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors.
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End of Thread.
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92432 23-APR 21:32 General Information
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SEGA power supply
|
|
From: TEDJAEGER To: ALL
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My son's SEGA power supply is broken and my wife went to Radio Shack
|
|
and came home with a universal power supply. The voltage and polarity
|
|
have to be set so I'm wondering if anybody knows the appropriate
|
|
settings for a SEGA GENESIS. I can tell you that the male connector is
|
|
in the SEGA case and the power supply side connector must be female.
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Does this dictate polarity?
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Bests
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---TedJaeger
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92434 23-APR 21:48 General Information
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ALL
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From: REVWCP To: ALL
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Hi folks-
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I've really been missing my delphi account- enough to post
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this through my friend Br. Jeremy. Loneliness is a terrible
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force... sorry it's all in one bunch!
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windoze- when in doubt, rip out the users set up. Establish
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doubt with all or nothing set up- then cross examine users all.
|
|
When all else fails, fail. Don't provide a useful uninstall
|
|
and don't leave any copies of the original setup. Sure, thats
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fair.
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|
I have many programs installed that might not be run for
|
|
weeks on end. If each modified my boot file to elimiate even the
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DOS they ran under (like windont- which runs _under_ the MSDOS it
|
|
just half killed) I'd be a bit miffed. Kind of like MVue deleting
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shell and repointing cc3/sysgo transparently.
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The difference between a floppy and hard drive CoCo (OS9) is
|
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greater than the difference between a 8088 and a 486, given the
|
|
same i/o and display on the intels.
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RRL actually nets more sectors per track. With BB's weird
|
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sector combiner, the math don't work- start with a 1 track
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format, bump sectors to error, remath MFMsize*1.5/actual spt
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Paul should get a kudo for 'fessing up'.
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OS/2 is _it_. WfWG is lame, and only switch tasking anyway.
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And the blatantly commercial part- Fast232 is here. Your
|
|
typical 16550 serial port..... see ya'll at the fest!
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'Posted with Fast232 (/t2) and ds (fast again, ANSI over
|
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/t3)'
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-ricku
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Rick Ulland CoNect
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rickuland@delphi.com 1819 North 53rd Street
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"Operating System Nine"-268m Wauwatosa, WI 53208
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92436 23-APR 23:21 Programmers Den
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Thanks(Problem Solved)
|
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From: THETAURUS To: ALL
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|
|
I just wanted to let everyone know that my problem regarding the
|
|
Syscall from Basic09 has been solved. Thanks to everyone involved
|
|
who helped me out. Randy got to me in last Monday's conference
|
|
before I had a chance to read the replies in forum and told me
|
|
what I was doing wrong(again). It now works fine and I'm going to
|
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take it from there. Since I'll be using Syscall more in the future
|
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you can still count on hearing me cry for help some more(but I
|
|
promise I won't make the same mistake a third time).
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|
|
Oh yeah, to Dave Breeding, about using SS.Devnm. I'll look into
|
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that and check it out, but I'm not familiar with that one yet.
|
|
I'll let you know if it works. Thanks for the advice.
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See Ya
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>Chris<
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92437 23-APR 23:21 General Information
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Conference Reminder
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|
From: THETAURUS To: ALL
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|
Tomorrow (Monday) at 10:00 PM Eastern Time, we'll be having
|
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another Open Forum conference. Don't be afraid to stop by and say
|
|
"Hi", or anything else short of a flame(Grin). Our last Open Forum
|
|
was a pretty big one, so let's make this one even bigger and get
|
|
way ahead of ourselves! There's a Cocofest coming up and both the
|
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Glennside Color Computer Club and the OS-9 User's Group released
|
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the latest issues of their respective newsletters, so that gives
|
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us a conversation right there. If not, someone is going to show up
|
|
wanting to know how to transfer files from an OS-9 Disk to a PC
|
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disk or DECB disk and vice versa, so...
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See ya then!
|
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>Chris<
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92439 24-APR 03:32 General Information
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Fest Attendance
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|
From: NIMITZ To: ALL
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|
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Since I can't get ahold of Tony P., this note is to notify the Glenside
|
|
folks that BlackHawk Enterprises, Inc. will be at the Fest. Arrangements
|
|
for the trip are underway. Folks, I've had to change jobs, started a
|
|
new college degree, had my girlfriend go into the hospital, and had to deal
|
|
with the aftermath of this damned bombing among my patients in the last
|
|
month, so please, do not expect a big improvement in my fest layout this
|
|
time. My plans have been drasticly changed! Sorry. But, I will have
|
|
a floptical drive, 4-5 SCSI Drives (105ers) and some 512K coco memory upgrades,
|
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and the PUPPO keyboard adapter for sale. Plus a major upgrade to KTerm,, and
|
|
the Ribbs port beta in PD form.
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