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#: 20660 S1/General Interest
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31-Dec-94 12:19:30
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Sb: #20654-Merry Christmas!
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Fm: Rogelio Perea 72056,1204
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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... threadin' in: Have a Happy New Year's Celebration Bob! (et al at this
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forum)..
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Yes, there are still some OS9 fans around. I know for sure that I'll use it
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throughout '95 (in my CoCo 3) and for what I can project, '96 should be also a
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good year to do something with OS9. I recently got my hands on several OS9
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packages: C, Pascal, D.L.Logo, DeskMate3... and have been having a ball souping
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them up to OS9LII (like Logo) and doing some basic (still) C and Pascal
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programs... it seems like my CoCo OS9 time for '95 is allocated :-)
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I'll try to get to this forum an excerpt from an article about the taken and
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brought subject of "Plug and Play"....... and what us OS9ers have been having
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for YEARS NOW!!
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Rogelio Perea
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#: 20665 S1/General Interest
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01-Jan-95 14:43:51
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Sb: #OS9 for 6809 & Serial
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Fm: Ben Williams 74774,3106
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To: ALL
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Hi there. I have an interest in getting OS9 up and running in a very simple
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6809 environment.
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It's got one serial port and a terminal (Soroc IQ120, if it matters... I can
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make it act like anything I want to in point of fact). It's currently set for
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56k of ram and 8k of ROM, but I can change that, too. So, how do I go about
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obtaining OS9 for this thing? Anyone know? Should I contact Microware, or are
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there dealers for this kind of thing? For that matter, is Microware still the
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owner, or a going concern?
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Thanks for any information. This project has been stalled for a long time, and
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I'd *really* like to get it up and running.
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Ben
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20668 S1/General Interest
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01-Jan-95 19:30:53
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Sb: #20665-#OS9 for 6809 & Serial
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Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
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To: Ben Williams 74774,3106 (X)
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> Hi there. I have an interest in getting OS9 up and running in a very
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> simple 6809 environment.
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>
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> It's got one serial port and a terminal It's currently
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> set for 56k of ram and 8k of ROM, but I can change that, too. So, how do
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> I go about obtaining OS9 for this thing? Should I contact
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> Microware, or are there dealers for this kind of thing?
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Some of the rest can answer that question better than I, but FWIW, I would
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suspect that if a system has been developed for that machine, you would
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probably have to contact some middle party. MW provides only the Kernel for
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the system, and the people down the line develop the drivers etc.
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> For that matter, is Microware still the owner, or a going concern?
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Oh, yes, they ave very much a going concern. Currently, they are involved in
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the video-on-demand projects.
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> Thanks for any information. This project has been stalled for a long time,
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> and I'd *really* like to get it up and running.
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Well, if your main concern is just to get OS9/6809, and you don't have any
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particular reason to put this machine in gear, I would suggest you get a Tandy
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Color Computer 3 with OS/9 Level 2. It will support lots of memory - they
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currently have boards that will expand memory up to 2 Meg. The drivers and
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quite a bit of software are already here, and it's quite a potent machine.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051
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Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
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^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20669 S1/General Interest
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02-Jan-95 00:54:16
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Sb: #20668-#OS9 for 6809 & Serial
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Fm: Ben Williams 74774,3106
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To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X)
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> Some of the rest can answer that question better than I, but FWIW, I would
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suspect that if
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> a system has been developed for that machine, you would probably have to
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contact some
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> middle party. MW provides only the Kernel for the system, and the people
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down the line
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> develop the drivers etc.
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Well, "that kind" of a machine is in fact not a machine at all, but an
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emulation. What it is an emulation _of_, at least right this second, is an SS50
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machine with Psymon monitor. I can load any monitor you please (assuming I have
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code for it, anyway... I have GMXBUG and SWTBUG as well as Psymon, but they're
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pretty poorly designed by comparison, IMHO)
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I think Microware would be the place to start, as I can write the drivers
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(disk, serial, timers, etc) very easily, inasmuch as I can define those things
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to do anything I want. :-)
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Unless someone sells a new serial based OS9, or someone has an old version.
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I do have a CoCo, _and_ the originally released version of OS9 for it, but
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that's not licensed for the kind of use I intend to put it to - only for use on
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the old CoCo, which isn't up to the computing speed I have available in the
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emulation (which is actually running under a 25 mhz 68040 and runs considerably
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faster than a 2 mhz 6809)... more like 5, of which there aren't any. :-)
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Ben
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20670 S1/General Interest
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02-Jan-95 21:19:27
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Sb: #20669-OS9 for 6809 & Serial
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Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
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To: Ben Williams 74774,3106 (X)
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> I think Microware would be the place to start, as I can write the drivers
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> (disk, serial, timers, etc) very easily, inasmuch as I can define those
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> things to do anything I want. :-)
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OK, I see.. Then probably what you need to do is to see what MW can do for
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you. I really don't know how they operate in this regard. The only problem
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might be that they might not sell a license for one machine, but it doesn't
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hurt to ask.
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> for use on the old CoCo, which isn't up to the computing speed I have
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> available in the emulation (which is actually running under a 25 mhz 68040
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> and runs considerably faster than a 2 mhz 6809)... more like 5, of which
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> there aren't any. :-)
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Yes, there _would_ be something of a difference. I have now gone to a
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68020-25MHz running OS9/68K (from Delmar). There is quite a difference in the
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speed between the two.
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I hope you can find what you need.. and maybe someone else here can help to
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steer you in the right direction.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051
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Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
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^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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#: 20658 S7/Telecommunications
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30-Dec-94 19:56:12
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Sb: #A few questions
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Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
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To: all
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I have a few questions about a few oddities with my connects here and I was a
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little curious.
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It seems that at apparently random times, on logon, I get a message "Go RULES
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for Service Agreement Clarification". I might get it on one logon, then log
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back on a few minutes later and it is not there. I've gone to RULES and can't
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find anything that looks like I would need to go.
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It seems that now, using maybe OSTerm on my CoCo or STerm with my System 5, on
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logoff, most times, the line that has "Connect time" does not complete. I often
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get "Connect time =", or sometimes less than that. However, with InfoXpress, I
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usually get the complete string. I now use error-correcting modems with both
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systems.. Is the carrier dropping before all the text gets to the computers or
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what?
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Another little thing that strikes me as odd.. I have my modems set up to do the
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whole progress report, "CARRIER..., PROTOCOL..., CONNECT". When logging onto
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CIS, it rapidly goes to the end of the CONNECT string, but hesitates before
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putting the computer CONNECT rate value up. This hesitation is not there on
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any other system. This is on the CoCo, and with "ix", seems like the OSK
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system does the same (different modem). I had thought it was possibly a flow
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control thing, but from the looks of things, there is no difference in the
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amount of text in the CIS logon sequence at this point than any other, so I'm
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kinda curious.
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If I don't get the answers to these pressing questions, I'll try to survive
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somehow (G).. Naw.. it's just an "inquiring minds want to know" sort of thing.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051
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Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
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^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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There are 2 Replies.
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#: 20661 S7/Telecommunications
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31-Dec-94 12:51:14
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Sb: #20658-#A few questions
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X)
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> It seems that at apparently random times, on logon, I get a message "Go
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> RULES for Service Agreement Clarification". I might get it on one logon,
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> then log back on a few minutes later and it is not there. I've gone to
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> RULES and can't find anything that looks like I would need to go.
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It's nothing to worry about, David. I think that banner is tied to a flag that
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gets flipped periodically by the folks in Columbus anytime they make a
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significant change to the service agreement. It may even be tied to the What's
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New pages that pop up each Thursday.
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> It seems that now, using maybe OSTerm on my CoCo or STerm with my System
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> 5, on logoff, most times, the line that has "Connect time" does not
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> complete. I often get "Connect time =", or sometimes less than that.
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> However, with InfoXpress, I usually get the complete string. I now use
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> error-correcting modems with both systems.. Is the carrier dropping before
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> all the text gets to the computers or what?
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Doubtful. I see that from time to time as well. I just chalked it up to a
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buffer not getting fully processed.
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> Another little thing that strikes me as odd.. I have my modems set up to
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> do the whole progress report, "CARRIER..., PROTOCOL..., CONNECT". When
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> logging onto CIS, it rapidly goes to the end of the CONNECT string, but
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Gee .. so you really have this much free time?? :-) I've got a few projects
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that have been hanging around for a while! Seriously ... I've not a clue. Does
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this happen _everytime_ you log in?
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*- Steve -*
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#: 20662 S7/Telecommunications
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31-Dec-94 15:33:19
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Sb: #20661-A few questions
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Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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> > It seems that at apparently random times, on logon, I get a message
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> "Go > RULES for Service Agreement Clarification".
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> It's nothing to worry about, David. I think that banner is tied to a flag
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> that gets flipped periodically by the folks in Columbus anytime they make a
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> significant change to the service agreement.
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I thought it might be something like this. I just wondered if I needed to
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check things out, but as I said, I've gone in to look and found nothing.
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RE: connect time not showing all the time
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> Doubtful. I see that from time to time as well. I just chalked it up to a
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> buffer not getting fully processed.
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Again, this is what seems more apparent to me. But I wondered why one comm
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package would complete the string and others wouldn't. Again, it could be in
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the speed the comm programs process the data, and it could be that the carrier
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being dropped might cause anything in the buffer to be lost.
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> > Another little thing that strikes me as odd.. I have my modems set up
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> to > do the whole progress report, "CARRIER..., PROTOCOL..., CONNECT".
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> When > logging onto CIS, it rapidly goes to the end of the CONNECT string,
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> but
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> Gee .. so you really have this much free time?? :-) I've got a few
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> projects that have been hanging around for a while! Seriously ... I've not
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> a clue. Does this happen _everytime_ you log in?
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Yeah, every time.. There's a pause right after CONNECT, maybe 2 seconds, then
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4800 comes up (that's the speed I have my coco set to connect). But with
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Delphi and everywhere else, it's all one swoop, and I would suspect that THIS
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comes from the modem. Again, it could be a halt from the coco, but if I
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remember, it's the same with the OSK computer, can't remember.
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Well, none of this stuff is really a problem, but I just get curious about
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stuff like this... <G>
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Hope you are having a great holiday.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051
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Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
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^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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#: 20666 S7/Telecommunications
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01-Jan-95 17:54:08
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Sb: #20658-#A few questions
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X)
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> I often get "Connect time =", or sometimes less than that.
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When I dial the 2400 baud access number I always have the "connect time"
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message chopped off; but on the 9600 baud line it always works. And since I am
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using the same computer, modem and software I have to figure that it is a CIS
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problem. Of course, you could always "ask customer service" and then, after
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they ask you which version of CIM you are using, you still would not know the
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answer. It'll probably just remain a mystery <g>.
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#: 20667 S7/Telecommunications
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01-Jan-95 19:29:28
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Sb: #20666-A few questions
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Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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> When I dial the 2400 baud access number I always have the "connect time"
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> message chopped off; but on the 9600 baud line it always works. And since
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> I am using the same computer, modem and software I have to figure that it
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> is a CIS problem.
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Well, it doesn't matter that much, but I was just curious. I don't think it is
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ever chopped off on my coco using 2400 modem, coco set @ 4800. But with
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OSTerm, it usually is.
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> Of course, you could always "ask customer service" and
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> then, after they ask you which version of CIM you are using, you still
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> would not know the answer. It'll probably just remain a mystery <g>.
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Oh, you think they might be thrown for a loop when I tell them I'm using
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OSTerm, or STerm.. Think they might not be really up-to-date on those
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programs? <G>
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Actually, What Steve said was something I thought maybe.. that the rest of the
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string might be still in the Modem buffer and (my thought), when CD dropped,
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this was lost. Anyway, if that's the biggest online problem I ever have, I
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think I will survive ;-)
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051
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Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
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^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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