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90299 11-OCT 12:59 OSK Applications
RE: Problems with XY/Z (Re: Msg 90287)
From: GREGL To: MRGOOD
More than likely the problem is caused by the MM/1 not properly implementing
one of the VT52/VT100 control codes or escape sequences. I do not know
what you can do about it unless you can find the offending string and
have the terminal program strip it. I do know one of the sequences sets
the keyboard to application mode.
Making this short because I am using a stupid version of Telnet that
sends control character garbage when I use a non alphabetic character.
Sheesh.
-- Greg -- Life Sucks then you get a Crappy Telnet g
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90300 11-OCT 13:03 OSK Applications
RE: Problems with XY/Z (Re: Msg 90293)
From: GREGL To: KSCALES
Why in the world did they use ESC = for Bold switch? Seems to me they
could have used an extension to the ANSI color change sequence to speficy
bold -- assuming Bold is not already defined in the PC ANSI sequence --
and not have a problem when running true VT52/VT100 emulation. Oh well,
such is life.
-- Greg
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90301 11-OCT 21:35 OSK Applications
RE: Problems with XY/Z (Re: Msg 90300)
From: KSCALES To: GREGL
Hi, Greg -
> Why in the world did they use ESC = for Bold switch? Seems to me they
> could have used an extension to the ANSI color change sequence to speficy
> bold -- assuming Bold is not already defined in the PC ANSI sequence --
> and not have a problem when running true VT52/VT100 emulation. Oh well,
> such is life.
Simple -- that's what the CC3 Level 2 windows used. (Truly "backwards
compatibility").
But K-Windows also supports "ESC [ 1 m", which is the ANSI sequence
for Select Graphic Rendition: Bold or increased intensity.
Cheers... / Ken
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Ken Scales Delphi:KSCALES Internet:kscales@delphi.com CIS:74646,2237
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90303 11-OCT 22:44 OSK Applications
RE: Problems with XY/Z (Re: Msg 90292)
From: MRGOOD To: WA2EGP
It happens with Sterm.
Hugo
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90304 11-OCT 22:46 OSK Applications
RE: Problems with XY/Z (Re: Msg 90293)
From: MRGOOD To: KSCALES
Actually, the boldface isn;t a problem really. I just made note
of it in forum since others were discussing it. I do plan to get
a better term program though.
Hugo
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90307 11-OCT 23:15 OSK Applications
RE: Problems with XY/Z (Re: Msg 90303)
From: WA2EGP To: MRGOOD
OK. I'll have to check that out. Haven't used sterm in a long time. Kept
several versions so maybe I'll try them all and see if I get the same effect.
I just don't remember that happening. As they say in the PC world, "....an
undocuemented feature!"
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90308 11-OCT 23:24 OSK Applications
RE: Problems with XY/Z (Re: Msg 90297)
From: VAXELF To: DIGIGRADE
I have had the Zmodem thinge happen to me many times. I have executed a
ZModem download using KTerm V2.1 and at the end of the download have
Delphi start another. After terminating the download, Delphi would try and
start another. I don't think it is the ZModem on my end. KTerm uses a
external ZModem routine. I have used the same routine with STerm. then
too, it doesn't always happen. I would say mabey 1 time out of 20 Delphi
Sessions. I have had this to happen on Delphi, finally get out of it,
close Delphi, dail up another BBS, use the same ZModem with perfect
results.
John D.
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90309 11-OCT 23:27 OSK Applications
RE: Problems with XY/Z (Re: Msg 90300)
From: VAXELF To: GREGL
Greg,
Would you pass this along to Boisy. He is caretaker of KWindows. If it
is a bug, it will get on the bug fix report. If not, then mabey something
can be done to correct the problem in future release.
John D.
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90310 12-OCT 00:19 OSK Applications
RE: Problems with XY/Z (Re: Msg 90309)
From: KSCALES To: VAXELF
> Greg,
> Would you pass this along to Boisy. He is caretaker of KWindows. If it
> is a bug, it will get on the bug fix report. If not, then mabey something
> can be done to correct the problem in future release.
Hi, John -
As you may have noted from one of my subsequent messages, this isn't a
bug, but rather it is a function that has been included as part of the
"CC3 Level2 Windows Compatibility". As you know, K-Windows provides both
this compatibility and some (limited) VT100/220 support.
Cheers... / Ken
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Ken Scales Delphi:KSCALES Internet:kscales@delphi.com CIS:74646,2237
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90311 12-OCT 01:12 OSK Applications
RE: Problems with XY/Z (Re: Msg 90308)
From: DIGIGRADE To: VAXELF
> Delphi start another. After terminating the download, Delphi would try and
> start another.
Wierd.
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90313 12-OCT 19:45 OSK Applications
RE: Problems with XY/Z (Re: Msg 90301)
From: GREGL To: KSCALES
Sorry, my mistake. It was sounding like they were going with VT52/VT100/ANSI
emulation instead of the CoCo emulation codes. I guess they used a combination
of the two, which does make sense. Now let's just hope nobody thinks I'm an
assinine swine and beat me with a club. :-)
Thanks for the explanation, Ken.
-- Greg
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90324 15-OCT 15:06 OSK Applications
RE: Problems with XY/Z (Re: Msg 90272)
From: TIMKIENTZLE To: DBREEDING
Yeah. That ones on my list, too. (disabling screen pause). It's
not as big a problem with the newer version, since it doesn't scroll
the display; it uses a rolling display like `xydown' used. Nevertheless,
I'll try to get the screen pause fixed before the next release.
(By the end of the month if all goes well.)
- Tim Kinetlze
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90329 15-OCT 18:25 OSK Applications
RE: Problems with XY/Z (Re: Msg 90308)
From: DBREEDING To: VAXELF
> I have had the Zmodem thinge happen to me many times. I have executed a
> ZModem download using KTerm V2.1 and at the end of the download have
> Delphi start another. After terminating the download, Delphi would try
> and start another. I don't think it is the ZModem on my end.
This seems a little like what happened to me. A second d/l seemed to be
attempted.. But when I broke out of "z", it I got to the "What do you want
to do" prompt.. Then my username appeared ("No such command" or whatever")
Then my password appeared..
> too, it doesn't always happen. I would say mabey 1 time out of 20 Delphi
> Sessions.
Yeah, you get timeouts... I think this is when the lines get busy..
However, after the first d/l, (the file seemed to be intact, unzipped with
no errors), I decided to get the ghostscript forte.. Used "rz", would get
bunches of timeouts, but d/l'ed everything.
The above really seems weird. Don't know if my computer sent a code to cause
this or what.
-- David Breeding --
CompuServe : 72330,2051
Delphi : DBREEDING
*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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90353 16-OCT 23:59 OSK Applications
RE: Problems with XY/Z (Re: Msg 90324)
From: DBREEDING To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR)
> Yeah. That ones on my list, too. (disabling screen pause).
Well, that's one of the little minor things, but I thought it would be a
real good final touch.
> not as big a problem with the newer version, since it doesn't scroll
> the display;
Hmmm.. I thought it did stick on me.. maybe not.. or maybe I was in debug
mode.
-- David Breeding --
CompuServe : 72330,2051
Delphi : DBREEDING
*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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End of Thread.
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90302 11-OCT 21:55 General Information
RE: ATLANTA FEST (Re: Msg 90192)
From: DSRTFOX To: CHARLESAM (NR)
You bet it will happen again next year! I went home to a fledgling printing
business that needed help, and to start getting the next copy of the mag
ready, and back to work. Geez... I have three jobs now, that if you count
FARNA Systems as a whole (software, hardware, and mag!!)!! If I get another
"job", I'll have to hang it up!!
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90305 11-OCT 23:09 General Information
RE: OS-9 Live! (Re: Msg 90296)
From: CPERRAULT To: DIGIGRADE
Hey that sounds great. Let me know what you want to do,how and
when you want to do it, and I'll schedual it. Let me know if you need
anything as far as help/advice on setting it up. I'm not an OSKer yet
but I may have something to offer to help you decide on what to do.
I'm good like that :-)
>Chris<
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90306 11-OCT 23:09 General Information
OS-9 Late Night:Review
From: CPERRAULT To: ALL
Well last nights OS-9 Late Night came and went. Ok, actually it
went WAY before it came but...
It was basically a dead night last night. I didn't think the
holiday would matter but it seems everyone else had other plans. There
won't be a transcript but we will reschedual the conference again for
sometime in November, on a better. While I'm on the subject, Winter
seems to be a good season for the Online world, since more people are
inside, so I expect that it will be an even better season for OS-9
Late Night. Last night was just a bad night since only a couple people
showed up, so when I finish the November schedual, everyone will know
the reschedualed date.
Next week, we will have Animajik/Fat Cat Publications. This is
the publisher of the International OS-9 Underground, and the
distributer of STG-Net and other fine software products. Stop on in,
and don't be shy. Well, at least stop on in this time...<big grin>
>Chris<
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90312 12-OCT 18:49 General Information
Cperrault cancelled
From: THETAURUS To: ALL
Hi all, this is just a message to let you all know that I cancelled my
'Cperrault' account, and will be back to using this one for all my Delphi
activity. Please send anything mail or messages to 'Thetaurus', since when
I canceled my other account, it was effective immediately. I thought my
account would remain active until the end of the month, but I found out
the hard way when I answered 'y' at the _are you sure?_ prompt. I guess I'll
just take the loss.
I wish I could keep both accounts actually, but financially I have to start
cutting back down.
The OS-9 Late Night conferences shouldn't be any problem, tho I may have to
cut down one or 2 a month in the future, depending
on how things go in the near future.
>Chris<
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90314 13-OCT 19:28 OSK Applications
8 meg cards
From: NIMITZ To: ALL
8 meg memory cards for the MM/1 begin shipping Monday. Look out , Zack
Sessions here it comes!! And thank you for your support!!
;)
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90315 13-OCT 22:04 OSK Applications
RE: 8 meg cards (Re: Msg 90314)
From: MRGOOD To: NIMITZ
Dave,
Could you post a listing of your available products here
in the databases?
Hugo
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90334 16-OCT 10:26 OSK Applications
RE: 8 meg cards (Re: Msg 90315)
From: NIMITZ To: MRGOOD
Hugo, I can presently ship - KTerm (KWindows Based terminal program), the MM/1
Technical Manual, BGFX, Paint, PixUtils, Midi boards, UltimuseK, Serial Paddle
boards, and Microware Manual Sets. I also have John Strongs CopyCat program, a
Simon(tm) like ga
me. I can obtain within 2-4 days : RAM, Hard DRives, Tape Drives, CD-Rom
drives (no software yet for these ), and other prerieripheral items.
*I just shipped out my last 8 meg ram board, but can get those, and 68340
upgrade cards within 1 week of the order. Joel will have 5 to 10 of the new 8
meg buss cards ready at all times, and the new I/O boards should be shipping
within 2 to 3 weeks. N
ot too bad.
David
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End of Thread.
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90316 14-OCT 22:09 General Information
Disto 4 in 1
From: HERMANR To: ALL
I have a friend who bought a 4 in 1 board at Atlanta. It has a 16 Pin
serial port instead of 10 like the manual says. If any one can help
please leave me an answer here or in e-mail. Also will try contacting
Disto. If it helps it has a two pin connector for the power. It is the
same as thenew 9 VDC. If this is worng let me know also. Tahnks for any help.
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90319 15-OCT 00:17 General Information
RE: Disto 4 in 1 (Re: Msg 90316)
From: MRUPGRADE To: HERMANR
Generally,, I get hardware answers (even on Os devoted hardware) a little
quicker in the CoCo SIG. Youo migh try there.
Terry Simons UPGRADE Editor
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90330 15-OCT 20:52 General Information
RE: Disto 4 in 1 (Re: Msg 90316)
From: DISTO To: HERMANR
I have left you the 16 pin pinout in e-mail! -Tony.
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90352 16-OCT 23:59 General Information
RE: Disto 4 in 1 (Re: Msg 90316)
From: DBREEDING To: HERMANR
> I have a friend who bought a 4 in 1 board at Atlanta. It has a 16 Pin
> serial port instead of 10 like the manual says.
Hey! If my info is correct, he hit it lucky. He has a board that supports
RTS/CTS hardware handshaking, which will make it work better with new
hi-speed modems.
> Also will try contacting Disto.
Good idea. He should be able to provide all the info.. He's here as DISTO,
if you didn't know.
-- David Breeding --
CompuServe : 72330,2051
Delphi : DBREEDING
*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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90357 17-OCT 20:58 General Information
RE: Disto 4 in 1 (Re: Msg 90352)
From: DISTO To: DBREEDING (NR)
That's right, RTS/CTS that works. I thought that I didn't have any left, but
I guess I did. I may even have another one left, if anyone is interested. By
the way, I sent him the pin-out for the 16 pin connector. -Tony.
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End of Thread.
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90318 14-OCT 22:23 General Information
2 Meg Upgrades
From: HERMANR To: ALL
If anyone has bought the 2 Meg Upgrade and not got the SIMM's might want
to get the 1Meg x 3 chips. These chips work fine and will allow more room
for the case cover to fit on properly. FYI
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90320 15-OCT 01:16 OSK Applications
Linkup
From: DIGIGRADE To: BOISY
Boisy!
Linkup is really fabulous I must say. (Martin Short "Ned" impression<g>)
If every utility used KWindows, sights and sounds like Linkup, it would be
fabulous too. (Absolutely fabulous<g>) I don't think I'll be using Sterm
anymore 'cept for VT100/VT52 but I don't encounter the need for that 'cept
in Internet RTC. Those other emulations sound interesting. Sharp work Boisy.
Dave
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|Digigrade Productions - Digital Services | with an MM/1 running OSK |
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| *********** Compact disks, the greatest idea since television *********** |
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90323 15-OCT 13:24 OSK Applications
RE: Linkup (Re: Msg 90320)
From: BOISY To: DIGIGRADE
Thanks for the kind words, Dave
You might try ANSI emulation with RTC to see if it will work. if not,
capture the output and email it to me and I'll see what I can do.
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90335 16-OCT 10:28 OSK Applications
RE: Linkup (Re: Msg 90320)
From: NIMITZ To: DIGIGRADE
Dave you are absolutely correct. I'm happy to say I'll be shipping Linkup with
every new MM/1 that goes out. No more STerm.....
David
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90338 16-OCT 13:51 OSK Applications
RE: Linkup (Re: Msg 90335)
From: KSCALES To: NIMITZ
> Dave you are absolutely correct. I'm happy to say I'll be shipping Linkup
> with
> every new MM/1 that goes out. No more STerm.....
David -
I think you will probably want to continue including STerm as well (which
I am sure you meant to do...)
STerm still serves many useful functions, such as providing CIS-B
protocol for CompuServe, and ASCII text uploading (though I personally
consider the unprompted nature of STerm's text upload to be unreliable).
Regards... / Ken
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Ken Scales Delphi:KSCALES Internet:kscales@delphi.com CIS:74646,2237
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90341 16-OCT 17:51 OSK Applications
RE: Linkup (Re: Msg 90323)
From: MRGOOD To: BOISY
Boisy,
Thought I'd compliment you on Linkup. Great program!
Now, where can I get a hold of ssplay? It's not available here,
Compuserve, or Ocean Beach.
Hugo
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90356 17-OCT 19:40 OSK Applications
RE: Linkup (Re: Msg 90338)
From: NIMITZ To: KSCALES
Ken, you have a point there, though I hope to have CIS-B in KTERM soon,
and intend to drop STerm ASAP. STerm is useful, yes, but it does not present
the type of image I would like to see associated with newer OSK software.
David
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90358 17-OCT 21:20 OSK Applications
RE: Linkup (Re: Msg 90341)
From: TEDJAEGER To: MRGOOD
> Now, where can I get a hold of ssplay? It's not available here,
> Compuserve, or Ocean Beach.
I dont have it either but I renamed hdplays ssplay and it worked
fine.
Bests
---TedJaeger
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End of Thread.
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90321 15-OCT 08:15 Telecom (6809)
Z modem
From: EARLCASPER To: ALL
Where can I find the specifics on Z-modem? -Earl
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90325 15-OCT 15:10 Telecom (6809)
RE: Z modem (Re: Msg 90321)
From: TIMKIENTZLE To: EARLCASPER (NR)
Funny you should ask.... <grin>
Chuck Forsberg, the inventor of ZModem, wrote a description which may be
in the telecom database here. If it's not there, check the
PC sig's telecom database, where I think I saw it recently.
Unfortunately, it does omit a lot of details.
My book on ZModem (and many other protocols) should be out in
January from Coriolis Press. (The publisher and I are
still trying to figure out a title, ask me again in a couple of weeks
if you're interested. It includes complete descriptions of a
number of protocols, as well as complete source code and gobs
of background information. Should be in better bookstores.
- Tim
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End of Thread.
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90322 15-OCT 10:29 General Information
RE: OS-9 Patches for the Coco III (Re: Msg 90251)
From: MIKE_GUZZI To: DENNYWRIGHT
It should be called PIA.AR. it SHOULD be there by now
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90336 16-OCT 10:32 General Information
RE: OS-9 Patches for the Coco III (Re: Msg 90322)
From: DENNYWRIGHT To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR)
Found it thanks!
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End of Thread.
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90326 15-OCT 15:51 General Information
ZModem weirdness
From: BOISY To: ALL
Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that uploading a file via
ZModem on Delphi has suddenly become a challenge?
The upload will quit right in the middle for no apparent reason. Delphi
says "Miscellaneous errors" and I have to keep trying until I finally
get it uploaded completely.
I checked my modem parameters: hardware handshaking, xon/xoff, etc,
and uploading ZModem is fine on other system.s
Has anyone else seen this?
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90327 15-OCT 16:55 General Information
RE: ZModem weirdness (Re: Msg 90326)
From: COLORSYSTEMS To: BOISY
> Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that uploading a file via
> ZModem on Delphi has suddenly become a challenge?
>
I have had ZModem problems uploading to Delphi for some time now (on my
MM/1a).
------------------------------------
Zack C Sessions
If you're not the "lead dog", the scenery never changes.
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90333 16-OCT 00:04 General Information
RE: ZModem weirdness (Re: Msg 90327)
From: MITHELEN To: COLORSYSTEMS
I'll look in to see if it is a problem in rz/sz... Have you tried Tim's "z"
with delphi, and does it have problems also?
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End of Thread.
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90328 15-OCT 18:24 Applications (6809)
RE: Shellplus Path command (Re: Msg 90279)
From: DBREEDING To: EDELMAR
> > far, I just have a file that does a setenv and I just "profile envir"
> from > the command line.. but it WOULD be a little smoother to not have to
> do this.
>
> Much easier way to do this. Simply add the following line to the end of
> your
> startup file - "ex tsmon term" (I use 'ex tsmon -p term').
Thanks, Ed. This would be pretty obvious, but I hadn't even thought about
it. It would be a LITTLE more sophisticated.
> If you have need for different environment variables for different
> applications you can set up different password file entries.
Another good suggestion..
> which will set up different environment variables. Actually very simple
> and flexible. Read the commands 'tsmon' and 'login'.
Yeah, need to check it out.. I played around with tsmon on the CoCo once,
going to the terminal, but never fooled with it that much.. sometimes
memory got kinda tight on it <G>
Gotta get over this memory hangup.. I need to get used to the idea that I
have plenty and if I run out, I can just put in some more :-)
-- David Breeding --
CompuServe : 72330,2051
Delphi : DBREEDING
*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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90331 15-OCT 21:35 General Information
EPROM Burner
From: MRUPGRADE To: ALL
I have purchased a used EPROM burner. W/ Doc's but do not have the program
and am notr shure of theh
and am not shure of the model?? It was made by "COMPUTER ACCESSORIES of AZ"
any one with a simular burner,, please leave me your PH NO. in E-MAIL.
Terry Simons UPGRADE Editor
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90332 15-OCT 21:37 General Information
HAM Radio Software
From: MRUPGRADE To: KB8SFC
You and others have asked for an address and brief discription
of Dynamic Electronics HAM Programs. While Bill Chapel is now
active with HAM Radio on the PC, he also still supports the
CoCo. "Mid Iowa & Country CoCo" has aquired an OS-9 tutitoral
series and other articles from Bill, for reprint in The UPGRADE
Diskmagazine.
Prices range from $7 to $30. I didn't want to list them a
here, so as not to creat an ad persay,, but rather to answer
general information asked for. Dynamic has a variety of other
software available as well. Whether CoCo or PC, if you'r into
HAM Radio, I'd look to Bill (Phone and address at the end of
file) for some good HAM software support.
The following is a very condensed listing from:
The UPGRADE May '93. (also other issues)
MORSE TERM 3:
This is all you need to send and receive Morse Code with your
color computer. Interface cables are included for connecting the
computer to your transceiver. These connect from your
transceiver's "AUDIO" output and "KEY" input jacks to the
"Serial I/O" and "Right Joystick" ports of a color computer. A
"Y" adaptor and external speaker is needed to monitor the audio
or audio can be fed to the computer via a cassette cable. To
transmit just type the Morse characters or send any of 8
preprogrammed messages. Messages can also be sent from a tape or
disk file. For receiving, the program automatically adjusts to
the speed of the code and copies and displays the characters up
to about 30 wpm. The keyer is for solid state Transceivers with
a maximum key up voltage of 15 volts. We can provide
instructions for building a keying relay for use with vacuum
tube transceivers. A 3-circuit 1/4 inch plug is included to plug
into the transmitter's key jack. A stereo to mono adaptor plug
(not included) is required for 2 circuit keying. MTERM-CD
(Disk)
STATION and REPEATER LOGS:
The STATION LOG keeps a record of your contacts. Just enter the
information as it is requested. Items that are the same such as
date, frequency, and type of emission need only be entered once
and changed as needed. Save, Print, or add to the log and
quickly find stations. The REPEATER LOG finds re- peaters by
City, Frequency, or Call Signs. List all the repeaters in a City
or all of the repeaters on a frequency. Add comments such as
beam headings or access information. Enter a call sign and all
repeaters using that call are displayed. Also lists repeaters
in frequency increments and prints the results to a printer.
Files can be loaded from disk or tape. For the color computer 3
the 32, 40 or 80 column screen can be choosen.
Both logs are included. LOG-D (Disk)
HR-1 MORSE: HR-1D (Disk)
AUDIO LAB (new):
This is a collection of three programs that allow you to use
your computer as a precision audio frequency generator, an audio
frequency counter, or an audio spectrum analyzer. The spectrum
analyzer can be used as a tuning meter for ham radio teletype
and slow scan television. A cassette cable is used for audio
IN/OUT to the computer. AL-D (Disk)
HAM RTTY TERMINAL:
Uses the cassette port. Requires a simple interface to connect
cassette audio into the Mic jack and receiver audio into the
cassette port. Interface instructions are included 60, 75, & 100
WPM Baudot. RTTY-D (Disk)
WEATHER FACSIMILE (WEFAX):
Draw weather maps on the screen. Feed your transceiver's audio
into the cassette port. Requires a joystick. WEFAX-D
(Disk)
HAM RADIO STUDY PROGRAMS:
These programs drill you on the questions that are on the FCC
exams. Study programs on Disk (-D)
NOVICE TECHNICIAN GENERAL ADVANCED EXTRA
RADIO MODS (New): This is a collection of articles on
various radio modifications for ICOM, Kenwood, Yaesu and other
manufacturers of ham radio equipment and scanners. These can be
viewed on the screen or printed on your printer. RM-D (Disk)
KING JAMES BIBLE ON DISK:
The King James Bible is in short ASCII files for use with word
processors.
NEW TESTAMENT - 8 Disks $12 OLD TESTAMENT - 34 Disks $40
DYNAMIC ELECTRONICS INC. P. O. Box 896
Hartselle, AL 35640 (205) 773-2758 FAX # (205) 773-7295
Message entered by Terry Simons UPGRADE Editor
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90337 16-OCT 13:06 General Information
RE: Shell+ 2.2a bug (Re: Msg 90290)
From: 01GEN40 To: CHYDE
Hi Chris,
Well, I guess that is that then. I have the docs for Shell+ V2.1, there
is no need for you to email them to me. There had to be some kind of a
text file included with Shell+ V2.2, if changes were made there should have
been documentation on those changes/modifications. When I submit my util-
ity DSCAN, I update the documentation and the README files with those and
include them with the program code.
I have Shell+ V2.2a and a (short) documentation file was included with
it. That tells me there had to be a doc file for V2.2.
Well, maybe I should quit persuing this and pretend that Shell+ V2.2a is
no different than V2.1. That is except for the "." that appears when us-
ing the <BREAK> key or <CTRL>-E to end a program. According to the docs
for V2.2a, that bug was supposed to be fixed! Oh well! See ya.
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
-= 01GEN40 =-
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90347 16-OCT 22:17 General Information
RE: Shell+ 2.2a bug (Re: Msg 90337)
From: MITHELEN To: 01GEN40 (NR)
Accroding to the docs with the Shell+ 2.2a archive, it is a bugfix release of
the limited release V2.2, which had command line history as its significant
feature improvement (I never saw 2.2, and I bet 99% of the CoCo population
never did either) This one thing makes it significantly diferent then 2.1
though... As I look through the docs, I also see that it fixes bugs found in
previous version in the mode that directories were opened in, it fixes the
"^" (set priority) option, and fixes unlinking of ShellSub modules. This
seems to document it pretty well... I don't see why there HAS to be documention
for V2.2, since it sounded more like a test release to beta testers, and not
for public consumption.
--
Paul Jerkatis - SandV BBS (708)352-0948: OS-9 Support
UUCP: amiserv.xnet.com!vpnet!sandv!mithelen ...or... mithelen@sandv.chi.il.us
Internet: MITHELEN@Delphi.com
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90339 16-OCT 13:58 General Information
Gopher Problems here.
From: JOHNBAER To: GREGL
Hello Greg,
Continuing from our privet mail about the OS-9 Sig gopher,
here's something I did find that didn't work. Trying to download
a `.ar' file from chestnut, the Sig gopher tries to `get' the
file as a `text' files, failes, then asked if I wanted to try
a `binary' format. So far, so good. I tell it `y'es, it does
it, asked for download protocol, I give it zmodem, the file is
now on my system.
Now, I go to another window, use `ar -t' to check the file
contents, `ar' tells me that `this is not an archive or file
is corrupted'... I used dump to look at the file, found 584
bytes BEFORE the start of the `ar' file!
Looks like, to me, that Delphi didn't flush the buffer before
the second attempted `get' of the file in binary format.
Also, I noted that the `incoming' directory didn't show on
the `list' that the gopher gave for chestnut.
Anyone else having problems with the OS-9 Sig gopher, please
join in here. Lets get this `fixed' for other users of the Sig.
Thanks Greg, and anyone else who joins in here!!!
--
John -
< Posted with Ved 2.3.1 & IX 1.2.0 >
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90349 16-OCT 22:41 General Information
RE: Gopher Problems here. (Re: Msg 90339)
From: GREGL To: JOHNBAER
Thanks for the information, John. I'll check into and see what can be done
about some of these problems. I'll also add the incoming directory for
chestnut to the list.
-- Greg
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90351 16-OCT 23:15 General Information
RE: Gopher Problems here. (Re: Msg 90339)
From: GREGL To: JOHNBAER
As I mentioned to you in mail, Delphi is using a Gopher to FTP translator
for getting to the FTP sites. I originally set it up using gopher.gsfc.nasa.gov
as the translator. Upon investigation this evening, I found gopher.uiuc.edu
seems to be somewhat better (at least it knows .gz files are binary whereas
all of the others say text). So, anyway, I changed all of the FTP sites to
use gopher.uiuc.edu and also added the incoming directory for Chestnut.
Unfortunately it's the Gopher to FTP translator sites that handle binary/text
extensions so there's nothing we can do about binary files showing as text.
If you want my opinion, these things should at least allow the users to
specify whether the files are text or binary. Alas, this seems to make too
much sense so nobody does it this way.
If I sound sarcastic, it's because I'm in a rotten mood right now. Sorry
'bout that.
-- Greg
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End of Thread.
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90342 16-OCT 18:09 System Modules (6809)
PowerBoost & SCII
From: NEALSTEWARD To: ALL
Can anyone suggest how I can get B&B's PowerBoost to patch my SCII
drivers, since I use the alternately addressed version? PB tuneup
skips the SCII drivers and I cannot use the ones addressed at $FF74-
$FF77 because of a conflict with the Ken-Ton SCSI pak.
if I make a boot with the regular drivers, run tuneup and
then use ded to patch the 10 or 12 bytes that are different so CC3disk
addresses $FF58-5F? Has anyone else discovered thsi problem?
thanks...
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90343 16-OCT 18:55 General Information
Lost Mail
From: MREGC To: ALL
If anyone sent mail to me on the dates of 10/13 - 10/15, please send it to
me again. Due to unfortunate circumstances 46 messages during that time period
were lost.
..Eric...
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90344 16-OCT 19:03 General Information
UUCP
From: PHILSCHERER To: ALL
While exploding the latest archive of UUCP I found that some files would
respond with --- skipped :unknown method. Does anyone know why?? <Phil>
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90348 16-OCT 22:21 General Information
RE: UUCP (Re: Msg 90344)
From: MITHELEN To: PHILSCHERER
Those are directory name entries, that lha 2.11[a-c] seem to ignore when
it sees them. It does extract the full pathnames though if you tell it to.
--
Paul
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90355 17-OCT 18:47 General Information
RE: UUCP (Re: Msg 90348)
From: PHILSCHERER To: MITHELEN (NR)
Hi Paul--I used the 'x' option and it made a bunch of subdirectories and
put the files there but it still skipped the first 5 files and one other
further on. Thanks for the reply! <Phil>
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End of Thread.
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90345 16-OCT 19:30 General Information
OS-9 Late Night:Reminder
From: THETAURUS To: ALL
***OS-9 Late Night***
With Jim Vestal and Alan Sheltra of Fat
Cat Publications
Monday October 17 at 10:00 pm est
Be There, or be somewhere else!
>Chris<
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90346 16-OCT 20:04 General Information
ss.wnset safari
From: TEDJAEGER To: ALL
Thought I would try to write some BASIC code to access the high-
level Kwindows windows used by DeskTop and other C language programs.
I have found the data structure for the windows and have an old
Rainbow that provides some guidance. Just need to know the callcode
for ss.wnset. Was $86 in Level II days but must be different in
Kwindows. Anybody know, or know how to find out? Its not buried in
sys.l that I can tell!
Bests
---TedJaeger
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90359 17-OCT 22:29 General Information
RE: ss.wnset safari (Re: Msg 90346)
From: COLORSYSTEMS To: TEDJAEGER (NR)
Do you not have bgfx for OSK/Kwindows?
------------------------------------
Zack C Sessions
If you're not the "lead dog", the scenery never changes.
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90350 16-OCT 22:47 General Information
The Pink Rose bbs and the CDROM project
From: MDALENE To: ALL
As some of you may remember. I ran The Pink Rose bbs. which was located
in Winsted, Connecticut U.S.A. Well we moved and are up again. The New
location is Mansfield Ct, USA. Telephone number is 202-429-6338. Fidonet
1:327/6338
The Pink Rose is attempting to re-establish itself after its two year
Hiatus. I really would like to see people login.
On a RElated note. I found out that I can produce a CD-ROM of Os9
software for no charge from Walnut Creek CDROM. The problem is that my Os9
collection is scant and I do not have enough to fill up 600MB of a CDROM.
Heres where other Sysops who have coco and os9 files come in.
Send a file attach to The Pink Rose addressed to Michele Marie Dalene
Please make all your archives inside of your attach LHA 2.11 compliant
archives. and Include descriptions for the files. If you use Remote Access
1.11 use the RA Files.bbs form. RIBBS uses a similar form. that includes
filename and description. No need of file sizes. I will create that info
when the archives are ready for CD-ROM production Please keep archives
smaller than 500KB if possible.
I do not have a deadline of when this will be ready to distribute as I
only got the basic info. but a NOTE. Make sure filenames are
Msdos-compliant. as they will be stored on QIC-80 tapes which will be sent
to Walnut Creek for the CD-rom production. As well as stored on MY hard
drive for downloading until the package is ready. This option is open to all
os9 users who have file archives. From my own Os9 collection I have
ascertained that we can store alot of the Os9 Level1 and Level 2 as well as
Os9/68K stuff on a CDrom. Please state os9 type in your descriptions!!!
If you have questions Please reply to me via netmail at 1:327/6338 or
call The Pink Rose at 203-429-6338.
Michele Marie Dalene
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90354 17-OCT 01:47 General Information
CD-I PC board
From: COCOKIWI To: ALL
***NEWS*** Just noted from Stmag - St1042 -
Philips will be releasing Next year a CD-I "plug and play" board for
IBM clones............So NOW we know whom the prototype board seen at
Show in my note last on this...item <grin>..download the ST1042.zip file
in "NEW" Database Pc sig.....and read it for ones self!
Dennis
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